HUMAN EVENTS DAILY: SEX IN THE CITY GONE WRONG WITH ALEX CLARK
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In this episode of the new breakout podcast The Spillover, host Alex Clark is joined by the host of both Poplitics and The Breakout Podcast, Alex Clark, to discuss why the concept of women who act like men when it comes to dating and in the workplace is a thing, and why it's important to understand why the idea that Sex in the City's creator, Candace Bushnell, regretted choosing a career over having children and now is truly alone.
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this is human events daily the christmas conversations what i'm doing is i've taken
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some time off and we're going to be running a bunch of conversations with interesting people
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with friends uh with other luminaries of thoughts and intellect around the movement and around the
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turning point offices and run these during the christmas season but i also wanted to essentially
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just kind of find topics that i thought were a little bit more evergreen and a little bit more
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timeless in a sense that you could really listen to these at any time look most of the time i'm
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talking about news of the day i'm like this happened that happened here's what it means
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and a lot of these conversations get lost and i think there are deeper things that are going on
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in our world and who better i thought to talk about this than the hostess of both poplitics
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and the new amazing breakout podcast the spillover it's alex clark everyone wow that's like maybe
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the nicest introduction i've ever had on a podcast i try you gave me a very nice introduction on uh
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you know when i did spillover so i had to i had to reciprocate a little bit thank you so much yeah
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you told me what you wanted to talk about today and i was like okay we're going there i well honestly
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i was like i don't know who else i can talk to this about but it came up recently i was on timpool
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and this was mentioned right at the end of the episode and i was there with my mom funny enough
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so it's just like funny clip because we'd been um we'd been a wedding earlier i love that you always
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bring her around for your shenanigans i know right well people are it's funny because like the left
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sometimes will go like what does your mother think of this and i'm like she literally is like
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standing next to me and watches all my like has seen i think every single interview and podcast and
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show that i've ever done 100 like she's with me you know she's my ride or die um and but the
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question that came up was because they were talking about the sex in the city reboot and it's like kind
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of scandalous of course that it's back and there's all this like controversy around it but there was
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something that the creator of sex in the city said years after the show ended and her name was
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candace bushnell and she was the author it was a book originally and she wrote that she in 2019 she
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gave an interview and said that she regretted choosing a career over having children and now
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she is truly alone and that's and look i'm not a sex in the city guy but i i understand that that's
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like the general thrust of the show right well and the show had a massive cultural impact if you're
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talking about it from a pop culture standpoint that show generated so much um when it comes to other
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tv shows and movies that were inspired by it just that idea of like a group of women who act like men
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when it comes to dating and you know taking their career by their own hands and all that so this this
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is where like like girl boss comes from like the idea that sort of ethos of hey i'm the girl boss um
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the bad mama yeah yeah the bad b yeah i'm the i'm the queen b uh like that kind of originates i'm not
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saying it it was created by sex in the city but that was kind of the the wave that it wrote in on
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and then just crashed over society but it also ties in with third wave feminism and it dovetailed with
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this sort of separation of the genders in many ways where you know feminism i think originally when
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it started it was about women's empowerment but then it almost turned into this like competition
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and then it became this sort of like separation where oh we have to be against each other and women
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and men are constantly you know battling it out and women need to be on the pedestal and men need to
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be off the pedestal and it's like all right women you you got it like we gave you the pedestal you're
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on the pedestal now like are are you happy well i don't understand are you glad with it you know
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what i mean so like as sex in the city was a big part of that yeah and this idea somehow they started
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to mesh together and correlate you are more empowered as a woman and it's more you're a better
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feminist if you the more guys that you sleep with the more that you act like what a stereotypical
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man is you know supposed to act like this frat star mentality i don't understand why that became
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empowering but it was shows like sex in the city and i like the show but i also have always i've
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always i grew up in a conservative home and i watch those shows and i also can separate things from like
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okay this is entertaining but this is not a way that you should live yeah like i watched game of
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thrones and i don't go around like stabbing people and riding horses with swords and right you know
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conquering westeros yeah like i could watch as a high schooler which you know so i was in high
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school and then finally went back and watched old dvds of sex in the city because that show had been out
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and long gone by the time i was in high school but i watched it and was able to be like okay this is
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entertaining or whatever but also i can see how if women really lived their lives like this it would be
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so incredibly destructive and demoralizing and sad and depressing which is exactly what that author
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the creator of the city said but but this was amazing so i posted that article because i knew
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that we were going to do the show and then i was reading it and we had mentioned it on tim pool but
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and it had come out in 2016 i believe 2019 2019 oh even sooner not that long ago right so 2019 it
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came out and i was just kind of pulling it up to refresh myself on it to familiarize myself with what
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she said and then you know i tweeted it out just to my followers because of course that section city is
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super in the news right now and then candace bushnell actually replies to my tweet what did
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she say the actual creator i'm going to pull this up so she replies to my tweet of this and i'm going
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to pull it up because i do not want to take the great candace bushnell out of her words she goes
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why are you retweeting this old story as a matter of fact i don't regret not having children i celebrate
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it and i encourage other women to do women to do the same in the same tweet she continues come see
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my new show is there still sex in the city which just got a rave review in the new york times so i
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respond to that i was right someone's in damage control mode right so i was gonna say two things
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stick out to me in that reply one is that she's absolutely lying 100 100 she believes the lie that
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she's telling herself also i think she backpedaled after that article and what she had said in 2019
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came out because now she's got a reboot out she's got a broadway show or whatever that is there's
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money to be made in that franchise so she can't say all the show is done right because at that point
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in 2019 sex and city had been gone for years and years and years and so she's actually taking time to
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reflect on it but now that the money train has come back around again the show's back out again
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she's out on broadway doing a one-woman show of course she can't she's she has to clean up all
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of these you know unnecessary inconvenient interviews that she gave kind of repudiating
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everything that she had said during this and then one of my followers that she replied to them they
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wrote it's an old story now that she has a new show misleading women into lives of empty careerism
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frivolity antidepressants and cat parenting and she replies wrong it's dog parenting oh my gosh and
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then after i wrote damage control mochi blocked me nice of course yeah she's humiliated and you know
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it's it's a story that i have actually heard multiple times from conservative women older
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conservative women what do you mean what do you mean they find conservatism later in their life so they
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leave the left and then by that time it is too late they pursued the girl boss life they never had a
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family then their eggs are dried up they literally cannot conceive and so and they never married and
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they're alone and they're they're lonely so is so what you just said right there the one thing
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i think the buried lead of it is is this political like is this part of leftism or is it something
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that you know we because i don't i don't necessarily think people would associate section city
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with a political party or a political ideology but do you see it as being more tied to one side or the
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other because i think that you are right that marriage family having children uh attending you
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know religious services that's clearly tied to conservatism the lie um that has been sold to
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women that you need to be selfish you need to pursue your own self-interest you need to put yourself
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above everybody else we're in this me me me culture what i want what i want um everybody else move
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over uh your career is more important than kids money's more important than family you don't need
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a man to make you happy all of those lies have been sold to us from the left so that comes from
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the left sex in the city as a show when it originated i mean there were definitely more
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liberal ideas on that original series the new installment like like personally very left-wing
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and woke well yeah yeah of course yeah i've seen that but the but the id that just ideology that
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like third wave feminist thing that is from the left it's libertine what is what it is it's
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libertine because conservatism has always been about um preserving families yes and having a family
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look i i've said this before but i don't know if i've if i've said it on on air on the podcast or
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something that you know because i remember somebody was asking me they said you know how did you
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you know they're like poso you're you're this like new right populist kind of version of of
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conservatism they're like you're not against social programs when it's for families but you
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do want you know a good tech structure but you're not like a corporatist i don't understand you know
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how did you come this way and i said no no you understand like i didn't change conservatism i'm
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just christian right i've always i was always raised this way and my family all the way all the
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way back on both sides mom's side side they're all catholic and so for us looking at it from this
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perspective it's coming to conservatism with our christian values and then saying okay we want a
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society that should be based around the family it should be centered around the family uh you know
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so my my birthday just came up and my mom got me a book uh fulton sheen quotes and he's a famous
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archbishop and you're in a tv show in the 50s and 60s just amazing the old clips just the most
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based things you've ever seen and i pulled up and it's like a quote for the day of the year
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and i pulled up the one for my birthday december 15th and i was like oh let's see what he had for
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you know for my birthday and he actually said this quote i'm gonna butcher it but he said
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we need a society to be centered around having strong families wow and if you're running into
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economic issues and economic costs to raise a family then you need to change the economy and
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the state should come in and change the economy to be able to support fam i kid you not this is what
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it actually had on my birthday um to change the economy because you need to change um what's he
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saying because the economy should serve people people should not serve the economy and i'm like
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how is this the one that they chose for my birthday when we were going to be recording this and this
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is exactly what i was thinking about and i think it really is that broader question you know of of
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things in our lives because this like the sex in the city ism it's kind of like you ever see i talk
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about this sometimes that it's a wonderful life yes right so you know at that point and everyone
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thinks of it as a christmas movie and of course it's christmas movie but you know the part where they
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show like the dystopian version of the world and this is where i always explain to people that it's
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it's much more than just a christmas movie going on here so you have um bedford falls is where they
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live and then potterville is where they go to in the dystopian version and pot you know bedford falls
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is like this great town and george bailey's helping people have their houses and you know even
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if he's not making a lot of money on their loans he knows that it's it's a real help to these
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people to be able to keep a roof over their heads so that they can have strong families they can
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live this way but mr potter he doesn't care about any of that stuff he just wants to buy all that
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land up and then you know demolish all those homes and put up like speakeasies and saloons and bars
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and uh casinos and gambling because of course that makes a lot more money than just some rinky-dink
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old houses right and that's potterville so one side is like the quaint community where people all know
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each other on the same street and the other one is just like money money money go go go
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and there's that uh there's that one character and she's kind of like i guess you might say she's
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she's a troubled you know girl in in the early one and george is trying to like help her out in
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bedford falls but in in they don't quite come out and say because remember this is the 1940s
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and but you can tell that in potterville like she's basically they're implying she's a prostitute
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yeah like she gets around yeah like she's like she's like a uh what do they call that a lady of the
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evening right right a lady of the night a lady of the night you know whereas before i guess she
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would they would have called her um i guess my grandma would have said like she's like a fast
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girl she's a fast girl you know um but my favorite part of this right as they're all going through
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and george is like clarence clarence you gotta tell me where's mary he's like oh george you don't
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want to see mary you don't want to see it no show me clarence where is she where's where's mary
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well you're not gonna like this george but she's about to close up the library george she never
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married she's a spinster no no right and it's like in the 1940s that was considered dystopian
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and nightmarish yeah and that like of course and of course it's a librarian and like library studies
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and go get your masters and all that and this is considered like the highest pinnacle today and so i
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look at this movie and specifically that scene and that word spinster which is like gone from over
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our vocabulary here in modernity it's like wait how did we go from bedford falls and kind of fall
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into potterville and not really realize that we actually moved from one society to the other from
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the 1940s to today well now they wouldn't even say she's a spinster they would say she's a spinster and
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she's a man oh no no right because you'd have to add something to make like we would say oh well
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she's she's like in her late 30s and she's not married like so what whatever who cares well as
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society look we've we when you get further and further away from god's design for marriage for
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gender for society for culture you're always going to see um destruction and depression and sadness and
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anxiety and look what we have we have the highest levels of depression anxiety and it's like well
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we've given everyone what they want everybody can be what they want to be everyone can do what they
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want to do and yet for some reason everybody is so unhappy why is that because maybe god was right
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when he had designed us as women to have these certain desires and to be this certain person in a
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family and in a marriage and you know design men to be this person for a family in a marriage
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and we both went we both went opposite directions of what was designed for us look i said this on
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tim pool and i'll say it again like like men you know we can we can go out and build a bridge and we
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can write a song and we can write symphonies and we can you know build all of these amazing things in
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the world and create things but there's one thing that men can't do and we cannot create life itself
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and that it's an actual miracle an actual miracle and i've seen my wife tanya do it twice now where
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god has bestowed women with this power this front like and and it's designed it's from birth right like
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i went and when i was studying mandarin chinese that took so long for me to learn that right women
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can just create people automatically right that is by design and it's an absolute miracle it's a real
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miracle it happens all the time and you know we constantly overlook it we constantly overlook that
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it's it's like like a literal superpower that women have and yet we just act as if it's like oh it's
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just something that happens every once in a while whereas i look at and i say i think this is the most
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important thing in all of society it is and i'm a young millennial so i was born in 93 the girl boss
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stuff was sold hard oh yeah to me oh yeah so the sort of like i know i was talking before this is
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like the i guess i'm like an elder millennial because i'm 84 right um i've actually argued that
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if you were born in the 80s you should be called a centennial because you're not quite gen x but
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you're also not quite millennial either yeah because you know we were born like we still rode bikes we
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didn't have the internet until we were like high school college so our prefrontal cortexes were
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already like on their way to being formed and then all of this stuff hit but we weren't raised
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with technology and so you get you get kind of like the um you know you you sort of like you don't
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take everything super seriously the way that uh gen xers did but at the same time you're not jaded you
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still kind of have like this hopefulness which i do believe generally comes from millennials like
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there's this kind of like sometimes people see it as naivete but i see it as like and many times it
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is it's like it's a mentality of we can really change the world yeah exactly and gen z does not
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share that no no gen z is like a whole type of thing but i definitely see this with the the core
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millennial generation as it and it's it's rough it's it's like it's almost like a wasted generation
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to be honest because there was so much crap that happened so many social programs so much social
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programming that was hit plus so you've got the iraq war that's hit the war on terror we lived through
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all this stuff then the massive amounts of government propaganda social propaganda movies tv
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etc then you get the great recession 2008 right when people are trying to graduate college when
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people are trying to get jobs when people trying to start their careers boom nothing for you so what
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do people do they go back to school and they went how do you go back to school we'll just i'll just go
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and get some more debt and i remember having those conversations with people when they were like
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well i'm just going to go into some more debt and i'm going to go get my master's and i'm like
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i don't think that's a good idea i don't think you like you're already like at you know five digits
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and dead like you're going to go and get more i'm so thankful job like what are you doing i did not go
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to college and i am so freaking thankful every day that i didn't because i'm not sure that i would have
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turned out conservative i mean just seeing what my friends have gone through and the conditioning that
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they went through and the indoctrination i'm just not sure i'd like to think that i would have still
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but you never know and so i'm really glad that i didn't go down that path but because this girl boss
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stuff was sold so hard to my friends and i i know so many young women then did not have any any interest
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in getting serious with other young men no one was seriously dating it was a huge um a huge focus on
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hookup culture it's all hookup culture and because of that so at that time i feel like young guys were
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wanting to pursue young women we denied them we humiliated them we rejected them now they're pissed
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off and they say fine i don't want anything to do with serious relationships now i'm seeing a
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turnaround where young millennial women are now like okay no now i am serious like for me i am i never
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was involved in hookup culture stuff i've always been someone that's wanted to get married young it
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just hasn't been god's timing yet but i've always wanted that like as soon as god's willing to let
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that happen for me i welcome it i'm so excited for that time in my life it just hasn't but um you
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know i know that for me when i'm bringing up to guys hey i'm dating for marriage i want something
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serious i'm looking for something serious no one no young guys are interested in it they've all been
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so burned and every single day they're being told by society and culture that you know being a straight
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white male for example is evil and horrible and the worst thing you could be now they're kind of um
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they have a chip on their shoulder well alex not only that but you know what's happening though
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and i've seen this and i know people like this i know millennial guys who are now in their early
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to mid 30s and you know what they're doing they're dating zoomers well but isn't that what every guy
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does every guy always wants to date the 24 year old right which normally is every generation boomer
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they could be a boomer they want to date a 24 year old but what's different is where does that leave
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the girl bosses alone and spinsters yeah exactly so that's my point is like you know this went on for
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so many years and now you're at a point where it's like hey if you're pushing 40 you know like and
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oh it's my biggest fear you've got another guy who's like well i could date someone who's 24
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i could date someone who's 22 and why would i right you know what i'm saying like why would i go for
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that when i can go for something younger and that by the way is like as you say is generally
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traditional is that women tend to date older men and men tend to date younger women my parents are
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eight years apart um this was super normal for years and years and years and years what was different
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was that the girl bosses just said no all the way up okay honesty hour you're married to tanya who i
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adore oh my gosh you're outing me as being married and having kids oh no what will this do for my brand
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no the honesty part is if you had not met tanya if right now in your life you were still single do
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you think you would be pursuing women that were in gen z oh my god oh man oh man wow wow
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um you know look for me it it would be look i i go back to what you said you know i you know had
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relationships before tanya obviously and we met at a bible study and people always think i'm putting
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them on when i say that but i say look i think god brought her into my life at that time and at that
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reason for that reason and what i wouldn't necessarily say that i would be looking for somebody
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you know elsewhere but that's our because god has already given me my soulmate right i've i've met
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my soulmate and that happened and it's been amazing like i've actually met her and we're together and
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we're married and it's incredible but it was also because i made the steps to say look i don't want to
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date to date i want to date to marry i want to look for someone that i want to get married to
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and why would i go to a bar why would i oh by the way i always had a rule all my years in the military
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no dating military ever not even once look let me just tell you something there's there's there's a
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lot of great girls out there and there's a lot of girls in the military but i always said that
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for me i just felt that you know the type of girl that wants to join the military and do that
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maybe not the girl that i'm looking forward to for yeah i can't imagine you with a girl like that
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honestly i i mean knowing tanya i know that she's perfect for you and you know the fact that you
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guys speak 400 languages and all the different things like it's so you guys and i can't imagine you
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being right for someone else or her being right for someone else like just having met you guys and
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being around you but uh yeah i definitely couldn't imagine my roundabout answer to your question
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is that you know i'd i'd be looking for a godly woman right that's that to me is the most important
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thing and i think that so age would be secondary yeah i think that you know i didn't ask her her age
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until well i didn't i went on facebook um yeah no kidding no you definitely did some internet stalking
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knowing you oh but she did the same thing plus by the way for like the first two weeks she would not
00:24:14.400
give me her number i love that kid you not she was like and i've asked her about this for a while
00:24:19.800
and i'm like why would you not give me your number for like the first like you were clearly into me and
00:24:24.740
like we were going out on like multiple dates so how did you contact her to go out if you didn't
00:24:29.760
have her number over facebook oh my gosh and then so i get on facebook and then i found her through
00:24:35.540
like because we had mutuals from the bible study so i find her on there we we contact hey great to
00:24:40.860
meet you blah blah blah and then eventually i've gone back though and i've been like because there
00:24:46.140
were times where you know you slip it in there like hey um let me get your number because i want
00:24:51.300
to text you this uh address or you know blah blah blah very slick right yeah you slide it in you slide
00:24:56.960
it in but she would always say no early on so now years later i've kind of gone back and like
00:25:02.700
questioned her because you know obviously we're much past that and it's like why what was that about
00:25:06.900
and she goes oh well i preferred you to only have my facebook i was like why is that she goes
00:25:12.700
well if i didn't like you then i could just block you that's so good oh no she's and then she goes
00:25:20.000
and then she i was like why and she's like some guys just want to date a european girl and i wanted
00:25:24.240
to make sure you weren't one of those oh my god i'm like wow wow so yeah she was using it like a
00:25:30.440
social media filter so that you know if some guy was trying to date her that they wouldn't be able
00:25:36.440
to have like all the direct details to get in so it's just pretty good that's actually pretty smooth
00:25:41.920
like i was like i was like all right i can respect that like i can respect that like i married a smart
00:25:47.060
girl but um but no look i mean one thing though that i do feel sad about is i wish i had kids earlier
00:25:54.240
um that math sucks oh i hate that i i mean every day i'm like i'm just thinking because i'm gonna be
00:26:01.200
29 in february and so i i think about that i'm like i have a biological clock like so i'm like god
00:26:06.740
please bring me my guy let me get married let me start having kids i because i think about that
00:26:10.500
because you do the math of like once you eventually do have kids and this is just for everyone in
00:26:17.720
general then you realize okay oh okay i had my first this kid at this age that means when they're
00:26:23.480
18 i'm gonna be oh and then when they're 20 and then when they're 30 and then when they're four oh
00:26:29.480
oh oh right and so you realize that that's why it's better to order a society into something where
00:26:39.980
those marriages can happen those connections can happen at an earlier age you're you're always dating
00:26:47.120
to marry you're always looking for this and in traditional cultures this is what they still do
00:26:52.640
um because it just makes for a better family that way um and look i'm not you know every time i talk
00:27:00.700
about this kind of stuff people come at me they're like i had kids at this age and they're great we
00:27:05.180
have a great relationship but i'm not attacking okay yes exactly anyone like i'm talking about a
00:27:09.680
general social you know there's a majority there's a minority i totally understand that there are some
00:27:15.180
women that tell me i never wanted kids i don't have kids i never got married i'm the happiest i've
00:27:19.300
ever been and i'm 50 great few and far between though when you're looking at the majority most
00:27:25.740
responses do say i wish i had kids earlier i wish i would have gotten married i wish that i would have
00:27:30.440
put a family above my career that's what we're talking about obviously there's going to be some
00:27:33.880
exceptions but those people on the internet are so annoying i always tell people like if you send me
00:27:37.700
stuff like that i'm just going to block you i had people so we were talking about this on
00:27:41.600
tim pool and then because my mom was there that we had just been at a wedding earlier in the area
00:27:49.500
and tim was like hey stop by do the end of the show and we were talking about this issue and i was like
00:27:54.380
you know i actually know someone who could probably shine some light on this and like my mom's sitting
00:27:59.400
right here and she comes over and my mom worked as a biologist um in research and development for 40
00:28:09.420
years she just retired and she got married in her 20s she had me at 23 and then she had my brother uh
00:28:17.820
three years later so 26 so she had two kids with an associate's degree and then she was working full
00:28:24.840
time and then she went back i think when we were in high school she went back and started doing
00:28:31.080
night school got her bachelor's at that point then continued on got her master's while we were in
00:28:36.500
college so like we always joke that we were in college at the same time and we were both in
00:28:39.740
philadelphia going to college so i was at temple university and she was at jefferson and then she
00:28:45.200
just continued with the same company now a lot of that track is different now like it's hard to stay
00:28:50.200
with one company for so many years but she was able to with that one company stay with them for 40 years
00:28:56.340
she had she got her master's degree and she had two kids in her 20s and figured out a way to make it
00:29:03.380
work and it's like you can do that and you don't have like this this has been the biggest problem i think
00:29:11.240
of this with with candace bushnell saying this you know i i regret how you know choosing kids over
00:29:16.300
career it's like why do you have to make that choice right you don't have to make the choice
00:29:20.700
you just might have to do different timing you know like your mom had kids then she went and got
00:29:25.460
her master's exactly you might have to do things a little bit different timing than other people but
00:29:29.780
you can absolutely because the way they sell it to you the way they sell it to you and i saw this
00:29:34.080
happen to so many you know millennials centennials whatever you want to say is that you know you go to
00:29:39.100
college get good college and then you become more competitive so a master's makes you even more
00:29:44.860
competitive and then you get your job and then you do life right then you do quote-unquote adulting
00:29:49.920
right that's what they would say and then so it's like why why do you have to do it this way and i
00:29:55.160
know um you know i don't know if i have a lot to say but charlie's working on a book basically about
00:30:00.320
this um oh good and because i think in charlie and i both feel the same way about this and charlie and
00:30:05.800
i both are the exact same age we were both born in 93 um charlie kirk and i is who we're talking about
00:30:10.940
yeah and charlie also uh agrees with me that after you graduate from high school whether that's
00:30:17.340
through homeschool or traditional schooling you should take a break a few years off and then decide
00:30:22.960
do i still want to go to college or can i pursue a trade or you know start my career without that
00:30:28.320
um because charlie and i both did that and then we ended up starting our careers in various ways he
00:30:32.700
started turning point usa i started a career in pop radio and then you know now almost 10 years down
00:30:39.040
the road him and i are here at the same place but yeah we both agree with that you can do things on
00:30:44.620
a different is this necessary right is is this type of thing the thing that i need for success in life
00:30:51.820
and then it's how do you determine success in life and i think because of these you know massive right
00:30:59.400
there's massive money behind these these programs for getting people into school saying this is what
00:31:04.320
you have to do this is the way to do it and i think for the baby boomer generation colleges and
00:31:11.060
universities represented something that was very different than what it turned into because it was
00:31:17.160
this idea that remember going to college used to be something kind of special right if you were going
00:31:21.380
oh college man college man you know college girl right that was something that wasn't for everyone
00:31:28.000
that meant that there was something special but this idea that everyone in the same way
00:31:31.960
that they used to say that home ownership was the american dream and so the government came in and
00:31:36.720
got involved in home loans look how that turned out now the government came in and got involved in
00:31:41.520
school loans because they said everyone deserves to go to college and it's like did we ever sit back
00:31:46.460
and say do we need these things are they teaching us stuff that we actually need to use to be successful
00:31:51.760
in life or are you perpetuating a system that's enriching yourselves enriching your friends
00:31:57.780
enriching you know and you go to these schools and they're like we've got a rock climbing wall
00:32:01.940
and we've got a fountain that you can jump in when you're a senior and you're like uh like what
00:32:07.620
like what do i need this stuff for for for my life right what are you going to teach me academically
00:32:13.880
like are you going to teach me how debt works are you going to teach me how to start a business
00:32:18.060
are you going to teach me how to balance well you say balance a checkbook but i guess today they would
00:32:22.500
say like you know take on take in loans and become liquid are you going to teach me how to like buy crypto
00:32:28.580
my graduating class i graduated so many ways to make money now yeah well i graduated in 2011 my
00:32:34.380
graduating class when we were in middle school we were the last group before they got rid of it to
00:32:38.860
have a it was called something else where i grew up in indiana but it was essentially a home economic
00:32:43.280
class where we learned things like how to do laundry basic things cooking uh they do not they got rid of
00:32:49.080
those classes in public schools i it's few and far between to find a public school or school district
00:32:53.780
in america that is teaching those young men and women i always joke that like you know in school
00:32:58.740
they'll teach you the difference between lava and magma you don't need to know that you know it's like
00:33:03.140
lava is when it's out of the ground but magma is when it's in the ground but they won't teach you
00:33:08.080
what debt is and that's why i i am so gung-ho and sold out on homeschooling and i don't even have kids
00:33:13.840
yet jack i have read so many books on homeschooling and parenting and all this because i just feel like
00:33:18.340
hey in my season of singleness that i'm in right now i just want to prepare i want to know as much
00:33:22.280
as possible so that by the time i meet the right guy and then we're getting married and having kids
00:33:25.940
we can get started and i know what i want to do but i really feel like the homeschoolers have gotten
00:33:30.480
it right and i feel bad that they have been so um stigmatized and stereotyped you know that all
00:33:35.960
these kids are losers and they're dumb and they're not smart homeschool kids have higher sat store
00:33:41.080
scores now we're reasoning it realizing there was a reason for that stigmatization and the reason was
00:33:46.360
yes billions and billions of dollars behind this idea of sending everyone to public schools and sending
00:33:52.140
everyone to college yeah the homeschool jungle freak so to speak like they talked about they made fun of
00:33:57.020
in the movie mean girls which also had a huge cultural impact on my you know my age group so
00:34:02.680
all of that i'm realizing was all wrong and was it all part of hollywood's propaganda to work with
00:34:07.880
you know uh public schooling education in this country the left indoctrinating all these kids
00:34:12.520
keeping us in public school longer don't homeschool them they'll be weirdos they'll never make a living
00:34:16.760
and the homeschool kids are making more money like i said higher test scores smarter they know how to
00:34:21.760
take care of themselves having families they've got it right you know it's funny too for us because
00:34:27.180
like we're we're raising our kids to be multilingual um and people always say well where do they you know
00:34:33.460
they're at the age yet where they would have to choose between it yet and i think we're leaning
00:34:38.000
towards homeschooling at least we're going to give it a shot and then you know see where it takes us
00:34:43.200
after a couple of years but when they say about socialization it's like he's constantly around
00:34:49.280
other kids like we go to church and he's with kids then we go and do activities afterwards with
00:34:54.900
the kids we're all together we've got like friend groups it's a lie to sell fear and to scare parents
00:34:59.900
into not it's ridiculous but what's crazy though what's crazy is public schools which are and michael
00:35:05.820
malice says this all the time they are literal prisons yes and they're the only place where most
00:35:11.180
people in their entire lives will face physical violence because we we set these things up where
00:35:17.160
they're they're not there to teach you you know it's rote memorization drills and they're teaching
00:35:22.380
you to sit down stand up raise your hand you know jump get up when the bell rings go move to the other
00:35:27.340
room sit down right this was a system that was designed for german factory workers during the early
00:35:32.540
stages of the industrial revolution uh because germans in their coldless inhumane efficiency yeah that's
00:35:39.560
works very well if you want to design you know an entire generation of factory workers but it's actually
00:35:44.520
really teaching people things right the idea used to be that you would gain mastery over a certain
00:35:50.200
subject right and then you would be passed on but this whole idea of like we're going to have letter
00:35:55.480
grades and number grades and then you're going to be moved from this one to this one is very very german
00:36:00.580
thinking right and then you know you're passed on and then you graduate and you get a slip of paper
00:36:06.060
that's your certificate and it's like your certificate of what like you ask people what they learned in high
00:36:10.800
school and they say i don't remember but you do remember is you know the infighting the clicks
00:36:17.180
the groups this constant like rack and stack of people that's going on while by the way you're going
00:36:24.580
through puberty and your hormones are hitting your body's doing all sorts of crazy things and you have
00:36:30.500
all these crazy pressures that are going on and then we force people through this system at the exact same
00:36:35.540
time yeah and if we wonder why and we wonder why people snap and if somebody's falling behind or
00:36:39.860
somebody is moving really far ahead they all have to be stopped for the other kids so like oh my don't
00:36:46.100
even get me started on that yeah don't even get me started all this math and stuff you could be six
00:36:50.380
months behind waiting for all the other kids in your class to catch up to where you are i was a kid
00:36:55.260
in class you can tailor everything for your kid if they're if they're they need to spend more time on a
00:36:59.920
on a on a book or more time on a certain math you're literally triggering my ptsd right now from
00:37:05.180
all those years of like you know i'm sitting there and i was the kid like i'm doing my homework in
00:37:10.140
class and then getting it done and then getting yelled at because you know i'm goofing off or
00:37:14.760
something and i'm distracted and it's like it's like you weren't paying attention and it's like well
00:37:19.400
you weren't you know i could see you you were talking you're passing notes you're doing this
00:37:22.280
you're doing whatever and it's like um they're like you don't even know what i was just saying and i'd be
00:37:27.860
like you were just saying and i'm like every single thing they just said i can like delivering
00:37:32.660
the lesson back and it's like no i get this i got it like i got it in the first five minutes like i
00:37:38.900
don't know why i'm in a 45 minute class where you have to explain this to everybody i'm bored out of
00:37:43.980
my mind and i think that you know the i the word itself homeschool people freak out and they think
00:37:49.500
well my kid is just going to be in four walls every day they have no they're not experiencing other
00:37:53.080
cultures they're not socializing like you said and that's a big fear for everybody but the thing
00:37:57.240
that they don't understand is your kid has the freedom to experience more cultures and travel
00:38:02.360
the the word homeschool doesn't mean your kid has to literally learn in home you can go say we're
00:38:06.920
going to spend this a summer in in europe you can do all kinds of things you can do your studies at
00:38:11.820
the beach you can study on the weekend you can study through the holidays and then you know take a
00:38:16.180
break in the middle of february you can do whatever you want you're not limited like what you are in
00:38:21.320
a traditional public school atmosphere like i'm talking like you know i'm this home school expert
00:38:26.660
which is funny because i don't even have kids one thing that we've actually discussed is um you know
00:38:32.060
for language learning and for cultural learning is at some point when you know they're a little bit
00:38:37.580
older to have our kids go and then maybe spend summers in eastern europe with tanya's family yeah so
00:38:45.800
that when they're over there they can see you know number one see what it's like living in a post
00:38:51.300
communist country and see that everybody lives in block homes and block housing to see the the burnt
00:38:57.640
out ruins of world war ii and the remnants that are still there that like hey we used to have a nice
00:39:02.640
castle you after eight hours dad yeah but then also seeing how people live so obviously the language
00:39:09.560
is different but then also and it'll be great for that and we are like i said we're raising them to
00:39:13.700
speak but also um the food is so different so the idea like this whole american thing that we do of
00:39:21.040
you go to the supermarket and then you just buy or costco whatever and you buy all the food that
00:39:25.580
you're going to need for like a week or two and you stuff it in your fridge like that's a very
00:39:29.000
american modernist kind of thing so in eastern europe they don't do that they'll go out and they buy
00:39:35.280
everything fresh every day because it's straight from the farm and like that's the food that you're
00:39:39.840
going to eat today and the only thing that you would ever put in the fridge is leftovers so like
00:39:44.640
the fridges are smaller and they're only made for just the food that was prepared maybe like the day
00:39:49.020
before and you haven't finished it yet so you're going to put that in your fridge and it's funny
00:39:52.680
because that's exactly what tanya does at home um like even though she's lived in the u.s now for 15
00:39:58.660
years she still has that mindset of no i'm going to buy something and then we're going to cook it today
00:40:04.120
and we're going to eat it today and then we're going to save it so it's all fresh it's all like
00:40:08.860
like you would say farm to table i guess in the u.s but like over there it's just food um and it
00:40:14.860
doesn't have the kind of preservatives and the gmos and everything that it has in the u.s so like
00:40:19.220
when tanya's parents are here actually her dad like refuses to eat like fast food and so much
00:40:25.120
this stuff he's like this is rubber like this is not food i'm not eating this but it's because he can
00:40:31.560
really tell what real meat and real vegetables and real bread are supposed to taste like i agree but
00:40:38.320
i still love my me some chicken nuggets i should have known i should have known the chicken nuggets
00:40:44.480
and the cinnamonies are going to come up but so i guess my real question is and to kind of wrap this
00:40:50.680
all up i think people are finally starting to question these things like do you see you know i i see
00:40:56.960
there's a split going on right now where they're i mean clearly with like tinder and hookup culture
00:41:02.500
that has definitely taken off and that is and it's led to hypergamy which is going on um which which is
00:41:08.780
this idea that like um more like you're having more and more uh women that are all driving towards
00:41:16.320
like the top five percent of men and then so like the other 95 of the dating pool is like oh swipe you know
00:41:23.620
they got swipe left on and that's clearly leading to more depression and more anxiety out there but
00:41:30.100
you are also seeing a lot of people and i see this with zoomers where they're like you know those
00:41:36.200
millennials don't seem like they have it all together maybe they got some stuff wrong we should
00:41:41.300
we should do something about this so are you do you think people are waking up to this kind of stuff
00:41:46.760
are you seeing that kind of split going on out there
00:41:48.900
they're waking up but what's really scary and sad to me is that it's almost translating into
00:41:56.300
anger i feel like with gen z extreme anger and anxiety they're just so mad over everything i mean
00:42:04.020
gen z is super anxious they're super anxious and they're sad all the time even i was talking to
00:42:09.860
abigail schreier about this on my podcast the spillover but it's not just sad it's like it's like
00:42:13.860
they fluctuate really fast and like in like one day they could be super sad and then they're all
00:42:19.160
medicated and wow they're all medicated um even what i was telling her was even rap music is sad so
00:42:25.600
the hip-hop that you and i grew up with which is like partying and having fun and like make a lot
00:42:29.700
of money none of the rap music is like that if you turn on any i try and yeah the hip-hop music now
00:42:36.020
is everything is about i'm popping xanax bars i'm depressed all my friends are dead it's literally lyric
00:42:41.900
um that's what it is about um and so it's almost like they feel hopeless and so i hope that maybe
00:42:49.740
we can start with a pandemic and everything one big thing i hope will um help them to turn around
00:42:54.920
and wake up is that with the pandemic they've all dropped out of college a lot of kids have put
00:42:59.700
college on hold and the workforce yes so i'm hoping okay maybe fingers crossed a lot of them will not
00:43:05.660
end up re-enrolling and they'll just drop out completely and then pursue careers and stuff and get
00:43:09.720
out of that hellhole mindset and that they will be woken up uh like taken out of that trance so
00:43:15.680
they've they've kind of it's kind of like they've correctly identified that you know the the absolute
00:43:22.480
end of modernity is oblivion right there's no there's no answer there's no pot of gold at the
00:43:27.360
end of the rainbow like at at the end of this road is a clip i mean don't you feel like with all your
00:43:32.560
studying of antifa just that a lot of them just feel like what's the point let's just burn it all
00:43:39.080
down well so there i mean they do have that belief but then there's also people who kind of have this
00:43:45.220
utopian ideal within the anarcho-communist movement that it's almost like okay if there's a cliff at
00:43:52.560
the end of the road then we can create heaven on earth and it's this utopian you know zuckerverse
00:44:00.320
kind of well the metaverse is coming so there you go throw the shackles off of the right and so like
00:44:06.120
you know throw the shackles off and we can create a utopia here and this is what you saw in the
00:44:10.340
bolshevik revolution and and many other revolutions throughout the world but also um with the metaverse
00:44:16.500
right it's it's also it's an answer for the hopelessness right it's an answer for the emptiness
00:44:22.360
that people feel because they are living these atomized atavistic lives which where they realize
00:44:29.840
that like hey i'm just a worker drone and i don't want to just be a worker drone and it's like
00:44:35.220
coming up next on netflix you know is like your whole life let's get back to basics maybe the
00:44:41.220
answer isn't but there is there is another path what what was what we're talking about well that's
00:44:46.960
what i'm saying get back to basics and having a family and why don't we go back to like what has
00:44:51.700
created uh different societies and cultures all around the world from for you know from the beginning
00:44:57.360
of time why don't we get back to that instead of let's try the metaverse now let's try not owning
00:45:01.960
any real property let's just own two hundred thousand dollar plots of digital land which my
00:45:06.520
pop people on my politics team were showing me that the other day and i that was so weird to me to see
00:45:13.820
literally hundreds of thousands of dollars on fake land and i said why don't they just take hundreds
00:45:18.860
of thousand dollars and buy a real plot of land and they said because they they just think this is the
00:45:23.660
new thing and i'm like what because that's hard then you actually have to run it you're here like
00:45:28.240
so we we're we're in phoenix right now and we rented this house and you know we have this um like
00:45:35.220
so if you want to have grass if you want to have flour well guess what you think you have to water
00:45:38.980
it constantly right so your water bill goes up or are you going to have sprinklers or what are the
00:45:43.640
taxes going to be like yeah guess what that's actual responsibility in the real world it's not just
00:45:49.660
like this this gamification of everything we're like oh i bought something so it's mine and everything
00:45:55.120
works and it's perfect all the time like no of course not you know things deteriorate and this
00:45:59.920
is why there's the there's an amortization schedule and again they don't want us to understand debt and
00:46:04.440
assets and how that stuff works so you know the great time by the way to buy houses on on debt like
00:46:11.040
with interest rates the way they are right now and like it might be changing you know coming up soon
00:46:15.700
in 2022 but like this is absolutely the time if you're if you're able to to get in that's why
00:46:20.780
everybody's buying up houses because they realize that it's like free money especially with inflation
00:46:25.000
where it is because you're locked in for 30 years that means if you were if your rate is 2.3 and it's
00:46:31.400
locked in for 30 years and inflation is 7 percent then like it's free basically right because you know
00:46:38.260
it cancels itself out but they don't want people to think that way right so then you're accumulating
00:46:43.020
money you're accumulating wealth you're generating wealth you have something that can be your legacy
00:46:47.320
and then with a family you have people to actually pass it on to and that's something that you know
00:46:54.400
when you talked about homeschooling when i'm thinking about my kids it's you know it really
00:46:59.340
is this idea of you know we have all of these things that are just distractions from real life
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like they're just distractions from uh actually creating something and doing something in reality because
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at the end of the day when you live a godless life you're trying to do everything they can to
00:47:16.780
distract yourself before you die because you believe that there is there's oblivion right there's and this
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is nihilism right that that there's nothing else that happens so what does it matter and it's just
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the distraction up until the moment you die when life doesn't have to be that way life didn't used to
00:47:30.260
be that way life is amazing life is awesome and you can create things and you can live have a family
00:47:35.840
and you can affect the matrix and by having children i think is the only thing you can actually do
00:47:41.260
that directly affects the matrix in that sense because you are now adding right people and adding
00:47:48.140
more beings into it but have kids and raise them yourself and don't and raise them and that's key this
00:47:54.920
is the key because for you to pass on your traditions and your culture and your language and the things
00:48:03.640
that you've learned like when i think when i first held my you know my oldest son in my arms i think man
00:48:09.060
i've got to get you caught up on so much stuff you know so much but this is so much there's so much
00:48:15.740
i gotta fill you in on there's all this backstory but at the same time it's like if i don't do that who
00:48:20.860
will hollywood wikipedia you know academia no way i have to it's a mission it's a mission i have in my life
00:48:29.180
now tick tock right you know and so it's like you realize that oh we are designed for this purpose
00:48:36.480
and there is a reason for this and there's a reason that men men and women fit together it's
00:48:40.460
there's there's that meme of it right it's um uh the guy gets up he goes all corporations
00:48:45.320
on their boards should be 50 percent male and 50 percent female no yay all children should have a mother
00:48:53.780
and a father no and it's like there's a reason this stuff works there's a reason the bible was
00:49:01.360
written this way and just did a conversation with charlie we talked about that but it's almost like
00:49:04.760
you know and if you need to take the jordan peterson view of these things because you're
00:49:10.840
not ready to accept that there actually is a god right then at least go to it from the jordan
00:49:16.900
peterson method of looking at it as positive allegories and metaphors for guidelines on how you
00:49:22.500
should live your life because guess what human nature has not changed and if you're and if you're
00:49:26.260
listening and you're not a christian which i don't assume that everybody i think most of our both of
00:49:30.660
our audiences are christians usually typically are catholic for you um but if you're not and you still
00:49:36.360
are interested in what we're talking about with homeschooling and all these things the book wild
00:49:40.340
and free it's like wild plus sign free um is a whole book about homeschooling there's nothing
00:49:45.300
religious about it it is just about not letting society raise your kids and um why homeschooling is
00:49:50.960
better and she dispels every single myth that we are talking about that you're you know well i'm not
00:49:55.840
um i'm not educated enough to teach my kids so how could i homeschool them i'm a full-time parent how
00:50:00.380
could i i'm a working parent how can i homeschool my kids uh you know will they be socialized will
00:50:04.740
they be weirdos all those different think lies that you tell yourself of why you can't homeschool
00:50:09.220
she walks through every single one of those and there's not even a religious aspect so if you're
00:50:13.800
curious about homeschooling you think you have to be religious uh you don't so read wild and free it's
00:50:18.520
excellent yeah and i think i think people are also realizing that homeschooling arose as a as a
00:50:23.780
reaction to like the craziness that's out there and then once you see it it's like i can't turn my
00:50:29.800
children over to these people i i have a duty not to turn my people my children over to these people
00:50:35.620
so then what what do i have to do i'll do it because i like i've seen these public schools they're
00:50:41.140
they're they're nightmares they're crazy and unfortunately you know a lot of the private schools
00:50:46.400
are even the schools that say they are religious and i think there's some good ones that there's
00:50:50.600
some people that are trying but they're not quite they haven't quite you know gotten under their feet
00:50:54.140
yet but with classic education with great books um christian schools um there are someone you know
00:51:01.160
other options that are out there but i don't know i don't know if i can trust it yet i don't know from
00:51:06.000
there um um carrie killman also has a really great homeschool book and i would be remiss if i didn't
00:51:09.920
mention that because uh we used to do a podcast together and i think her book is excellent
00:51:13.060
and tanya just write it cover to cover and she's like i think i can do this oh i'll have to read
00:51:17.520
that what's her name carrie kellman okay i'm gonna have to get that i'll get you a copy of it but
00:51:20.840
the one thing that you know that i did want to say to people is like and i know you know if you're
00:51:28.460
like resurgating to the end of this podcast it's like you know having kids gives you something to
00:51:34.020
hope for right this is it's amazing every single minute i spend with my kids even when even when
00:51:42.700
they're acting up even when the baby is like 4 a.m and he's jet lagged and he's he's up screaming
00:51:49.300
it's like i would take this over not having kids any day of the week because when you hold them in
00:51:56.380
their arm in your arms and they calm down and whatever it was that scared them and to that person
00:52:03.480
your daddy or your mommy right and when you see how much love they have for you and how much they
00:52:12.660
depend on you and you just it just activates everything within your your biology the deep
00:52:19.020
programming that's in there the spirituality that you have it activates so many things that you didn't
00:52:24.800
quite understand about how the world worked and how about how society worked that when you have
00:52:30.520
kids you're like oh now i get it yep that makes sense now and and it's amazing and i wouldn't trade
00:52:35.920
it for anything in the world um you know people say like hey you know you've had this career you've
00:52:42.140
like done stuff you know stuff i never thought i you know would be able to accomplish but i couldn't
00:52:50.240
care less like i don't i don't think about that stuff on a regular basis i think about my kids and i think
00:52:54.780
this is clearly clearly the thing that i'm most proud about in my life i love that and it and it's
00:53:01.500
it's just how i feel about it right and it's um i didn't know i would feel that like i thought i i
00:53:06.840
that having kids would be cool like yeah having kids will be cool and i didn't like my son is my
00:53:12.020
best friend like we and especially like because he is like an exact copy of me so like when we play
00:53:19.040
together and we have like little jokes and stuff like we're into the same thing so like we have the
00:53:23.920
same type of psychology we think this and the baby not quite old enough to like have a personality yet
00:53:28.900
so we'll see but you know we can just like joke around without even talking right because he's just
00:53:36.100
he's me he's like a little reflection of me but he's still him right he's him in his own ways too
00:53:40.060
and so watching him grow and have his you know and i see you know i see a lot of tanya and him as well
00:53:47.400
too so it's like it's it's the reflection and you hope it's the best parts of both and not the worst
00:53:51.840
parts of uh of either because you know you know you don't want that but it's like man i just want
00:53:58.380
to spend the rest of my life making sure this guy is set up for success because they say look and and
00:54:04.160
talking about parenting and you know we started talking about sex in the city which is like anti-family
00:54:09.520
it's just it's just anti-family like i'm just gonna say it that's what it is yeah and
00:54:13.020
you can you can try to prepare the path for the child or you can prepare the child for the path
00:54:23.680
and that's kind of where i'm at right you know we're we're polish right like like life is hard
00:54:31.260
life is not easy life is not a bed of roses and i think that you know maybe this could be one of the
00:54:37.800
things that's driving zoomer anxiety i don't know but it's like the world is not a safe place the
00:54:42.700
world is not a place where you can just walk around it's like la la la la and especially lately because
00:54:47.840
we live in such a crazy era where like laws are you know in some cases like not being followed at all
00:54:53.180
or in other cases like you know don't let that mask slip down below your your nose between bites you
00:54:59.200
know one of the two extremes you get thrown off so it's like you have anarchism and tyranny at the same
00:55:03.420
time because society is going through a period of destabilization and so how do you and and i
00:55:10.220
understand what people will say you know how do i bring kids into a situation like that i say no you
00:55:14.300
have to yeah you have to right because we are the only people that can do this that can pass on and
00:55:21.100
say look don't be like them also this is really morbid to say but i mean the left is supporting all
00:55:27.500
their babies so we have the babies they're killing all of theirs we can raise the next conservative
00:55:33.800
christian generation to save this country i mean it's it's that is sort of the overall plan right
00:55:39.600
the overall plan is raise children raise them to be traditional and like i i've even said like i don't
00:55:46.520
necessarily care what my son's politics are i care about what his values are if that makes sense like
00:55:54.240
he's like oh i don't like this candidate i like that can't fine whatever but i'm gonna raise you
00:55:58.820
in the traditional way and i'm gonna try to pass on these values and when we pray every night
00:56:03.780
and i've already taught him he's three years old we pray in latin um it's like and and i know in the
00:56:10.340
back of my head that there are people in our family who have been praying this way for over a thousand
00:56:15.080
years and you you are a link in this beautiful amazing chain of human history yep that's been
00:56:25.440
going on and you can either accept that or you can go be a special snowflake and la la float around
00:56:34.280
but here's the problem alex what happens to snowflakes they melt yeah every single one of them melts
00:56:42.080
i think the moral of the story is you got to reject sex in the city ism you got to reject girl
00:56:46.520
bossism and you've got to embrace traditionalism i mean it's it's as simple as that and like that
00:56:52.160
doesn't mean you know we used to be and i have to give her credit um for saying this libby emmons
00:56:57.320
who's the editor of postmillennial she said it used to be in this country that we
00:57:02.060
had the same goal but we had differences on how to get there but we don't have the same goal anymore
00:57:10.200
we have like different goals now and one side is trying to stay in that traditional path and have
00:57:18.400
that traditional goal and the other side has a completely separate goal that they are driving
00:57:23.700
towards and that's the difference and that's what's going on so i hope you guys like that podcast this
00:57:30.300
has been the anti-sex in the city podcast with jack and alex um this is pretty wild this is pretty
00:57:36.020
well i didn't realize we're actually gonna talk this long um but um if people want to follow you
00:57:41.700
uh shout out your socials sure so at real alex clark on instagram and if you have young women in
00:57:48.320
your life really my daily show poplitics on instagram is probably for more young girls and
00:57:52.640
tanya loves yeah it's silly it's fun it's entertainment news but if you want my more
00:57:57.180
serious side wait wait wait you got to say the line about poplitics oh it's pop culture without
00:58:02.140
the propaganda every single day but if you liked the more serious side of alex that you heard on
00:58:07.600
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00:58:18.560
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00:58:22.900
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00:58:30.160
that have tackled crazy i mean just really interesting stuff and and an episode that says
00:58:34.980
yes demons are real yes because they are because they are all right ladies and gentlemen this has
00:58:41.600
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00:58:46.120
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00:58:50.380
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00:58:56.080
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00:59:00.600
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