Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 25, 2022


Human Events Sunday Special： Senator Rand Paul


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23 minutes

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175.72694

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4,045

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211

Misogynist Sentences

7

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Summary

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) joins host Jack Dorsey to discuss his views on vaccines, the overreach of the federal government, and the need for vaccination. Senator Rand Paul is a member of the United States Senate and is the son of former Vice President Ron Paul, who served as a physician and was a founding member of Ron Paul's presidential campaign in 2008 and 2012.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard this Human Events Sunday special.
00:00:05.480 Now, we've been talking about a lot of issues on the show lately, and sometimes that one thing that I really like to do on Sundays is sit back and find a guest who can come on and unpack a lot of the things with us that we've been talking about lately.
00:00:22.220 Whether it be these issues with, say, the war in Ukraine, whether it be issues with the overreach of the administrative state, and the administrative state both from a health perspective, a power perspective, and from an idea of a prosecutorial perspective.
00:00:44.220 Because we've seen in many cases, obviously, most famously, with President Trump himself being the victim of politicized prosecution from the Department of Justice while he's facing an indictment.
00:00:57.660 We've also seen, for the past two and a half years, an out-of-control government, the NIH effectively taking over our country for years, ruling by edict, ruling by dictate through this idea of an administrative state that would be able to control us, countermand your own representatives, your own people,
00:01:22.620 and then have the ability to actually sit there and tell you how you're going to live, whether or not your elected representatives, your governors, your school boards, want to do anything about it.
00:01:34.680 And then, on the flip side, if you asked the NIH, and of course, the great elf himself, right, Dr. Fauci, were you involved in anything, in any type of research that may have been risky?
00:01:52.440 Were you involved particularly with, I don't know, gain-of-function research in a place like Wuhan, China, and the Wuhan Institute of Virology, run by the Chinese Communist Party?
00:02:02.120 They won't give you an answer, or what they'll do is that they'll even attack you rather than tell you the truth.
00:02:11.080 Well, I'll tell you something.
00:02:12.980 There have been a lot of people fighting this fight from day one to ask the questions about these vaccines, to ask the questions about the origins of COVID-19,
00:02:23.420 to hold the line on spending when it comes to sending money overseas to a war in Eurasia that doesn't affect Americans,
00:02:32.280 and one person who has directly said that he wants to stop what's going on with the Department of Justice, and that's Senator Rand Paul.
00:02:42.080 So we're very excited that we're able to bring Senator Rand Paul on the program for all of you.
00:02:49.360 He is currently involved in all of these things, and we're going to ask him about it specifically.
00:02:54.780 And for those who may not know, Senator Rand Paul, of course, his father is the great Ron Paul,
00:03:00.320 someone who brought a lot of these libertarian-type ideas to the forefront in 2008 and 2012.
00:03:06.760 He's also someone who really changed the discussion when it comes to spending, when it comes to the Federal Reserve, certainly,
00:03:14.280 and then also this idea of whether or not the government and these federal agencies have too much power over our lives directly.
00:03:22.440 And obviously they do, of course.
00:03:24.640 And so his legacy is being carried on now by his son in the United States Senate.
00:03:30.380 His son also, by the way, a physician, just like Ron Paul was.
00:03:34.280 I don't know if people realize this, Ron Paul's actually delivered babies, so whenever he talked about abortion,
00:03:38.800 he knew exactly what he was talking about, pro-life.
00:03:41.880 And then Rand Paul as well, a physician, an ophthalmologist, believe it or not,
00:03:46.320 someone who established clinics and free services right there in Bowling Green, Kentucky,
00:03:52.500 to help people out with glaucoma, give them eye checks, do everything they could.
00:03:56.700 So without further ado, I want to bring on one of the most impressive and remarkable members of the United States Senate,
00:04:03.920 Senator Rand Paul.
00:04:05.120 So when we look at this, we wonder, you know, why you seem to really embrace basic immunology back in 2004
00:04:12.140 and how you or why you seem to reject it now.
00:04:15.320 Well, I don't reject basic immunology, Senator,
00:04:20.380 and I have never denied that there is importance of the protection following infection.
00:04:27.820 Actually, words don't lie.
00:04:29.280 If you look at the words behind me, we can go over them a little bit at a time.
00:04:32.800 She doesn't need it because the most potent vaccination is getting infected yourself.
00:04:38.480 It is true.
00:04:39.340 It is true, Senator.
00:04:40.460 It is a very potent way to protect.
00:04:43.560 When you're trying to tell us that kids need a third or a fourth vaccine,
00:04:48.140 are you including the variability or the variable of previous infection in the studies?
00:04:54.200 No, you're not.
00:04:55.940 We're very excited to be joined here on this human event special by Senator Rand Paul.
00:04:59.640 Senator, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:05:02.360 Thanks for having me, Jack.
00:05:03.640 Now, I wanted to ask and get right into it because I heard very recently,
00:05:07.820 of course, we've seen your dust-ups with Dr. Fauci.
00:05:11.200 They've become something of a legend across the entire country.
00:05:14.460 But we've also heard now that you've taken the next step because you said in your last exchange with him
00:05:19.760 that there will be new rules when you're in the majority.
00:05:23.840 And then you've even taken the step from further defining that as calling for a special counsel.
00:05:29.380 I wanted to know if you could unpack that for us and explain what exactly the parameters of that special counsel would be.
00:05:35.160 Well, you know, there have been special counsels in the past that are appointed by the president.
00:05:41.120 There's a special counsel law.
00:05:43.120 What I'm talking about is something that is similar but won't be the same thing.
00:05:46.900 This won't be under a special law.
00:05:49.160 This would simply be as the chairman of a committee with subpoena power,
00:05:52.780 I will appoint someone who has the bandwidth,
00:05:56.500 someone who's either been a former attorney general or assistant attorney general
00:06:00.020 or somebody that had been in the Department of Justice at some time,
00:06:03.860 somebody who's capable of leading a large investigation.
00:06:07.720 And if I am in charge of the committee, we will have not only someone who's probably a lawyer,
00:06:13.500 but I also envision having a special investigator that co-leads the investigation that will be a scientist.
00:06:19.960 Because I think what happens, and one of the reasons Dr. Fauci was successful in the beginning,
00:06:24.800 is that as a person who came with a medical background,
00:06:30.380 I think he can talk circles around people who aren't as familiar with the science.
00:06:34.380 But there are a lot of scientists who have questions about particularly this gain-of-function research
00:06:39.660 where they juice up these viruses and make them more infectious.
00:06:44.280 There are many experts that have at least the credentials of a Dr. Fauci
00:06:48.980 or some of them with much greater credentials who have been saying for years.
00:06:55.280 There's at least one scientist who's been talking about this for 16 years before the pandemic,
00:07:02.740 warning that this could come from a lab because of dangerous research.
00:07:06.480 And we didn't.
00:07:07.700 The public Congress didn't heed his warnings.
00:07:10.560 And lo and behold, it's happened.
00:07:12.160 And in a big way.
00:07:13.680 And I think by the time we're done with the investigation,
00:07:16.320 and by the time we present this to the public,
00:07:18.220 I think people are going to go,
00:07:20.020 holy cow, this thing came from a lab.
00:07:22.820 Not just some of us are going to believe that.
00:07:24.940 I think the majority of people will finally accept
00:07:28.040 that the preponderance of evidence says that this came from a lab.
00:07:32.540 Well, I think that so much of this comes,
00:07:35.120 goes, and really goes back to this idea that they kept obfuscating
00:07:38.260 the contractors and then subcontractors,
00:07:41.140 EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak,
00:07:43.280 and then from the very start, we've already got the reports on this,
00:07:46.280 that it wasn't that they were sitting there.
00:07:48.520 And because remember, of course, they told us,
00:07:51.020 and of course, you pulled this out from your questioning of Dr. Fauci,
00:07:54.660 that we were told that the reason for these gain-of-function experiments
00:07:57.960 was that we would have a plan in place.
00:08:00.460 We would have something on the shelf,
00:08:02.340 an antidote, a cure,
00:08:04.620 some way to be able to treat a coronavirus
00:08:06.880 or something along those lines,
00:08:08.780 should one appear.
00:08:10.140 Well, it seems that we didn't have one in place,
00:08:12.680 but then we also go through the emails.
00:08:14.580 They weren't interested in finding cures and treatments.
00:08:16.760 It seemed like they were interested in pointing fingers
00:08:19.160 and making sure that nobody found out
00:08:20.920 what was going on in that Wuhan lab
00:08:22.880 with Shijung Lee, the bat woman,
00:08:26.180 the person who was in control of all of this.
00:08:28.360 Why is it at this point, Senator,
00:08:29.840 and maybe I should also ask,
00:08:31.520 are you hearing more senators
00:08:33.520 on your side of the aisle, of course,
00:08:35.580 that are possibly even both sides of the aisle
00:08:37.340 that are interested in really getting to the bottom
00:08:39.820 of the origin of all of this?
00:08:42.860 Well, the thing is,
00:08:43.840 is there have been scientists, Dr. Fauci,
00:08:46.260 who have said in the past that gain-of-function,
00:08:48.620 trying to create viruses and make them more infectious
00:08:51.200 might help with a cure,
00:08:52.940 should we get a pandemic virus.
00:08:55.300 Now, the three scientists I had in recently dispute that.
00:08:58.860 They say that they're not aware
00:09:00.300 of any gain-of-function research
00:09:02.180 that has created any virus
00:09:04.100 that later came about naturally
00:09:06.140 or that we were able to develop
00:09:07.760 any kind of treatment from.
00:09:09.080 In fact, they say that the odds of it,
00:09:12.420 the randomness of mutation being random,
00:09:15.580 that there are millions of different ways
00:09:17.360 that a virus can combine,
00:09:19.220 and for the laboratory to guess
00:09:21.600 which of the millions are going to come out of nature
00:09:24.140 is remote, if not really impossible.
00:09:28.020 The other thing is,
00:09:28.940 is the way we're creating vaccines now
00:09:30.820 through the mRNA technology,
00:09:32.800 they can sequence a virus
00:09:34.800 within days of discovering it's causing a pandemic,
00:09:38.000 and they can create mRNA vaccines within weeks.
00:09:41.560 So the old way we used to do this,
00:09:43.920 we would grow the virus
00:09:45.300 and grow it for a long time
00:09:47.080 and then either discover its proteins
00:09:49.420 and have parts of the protein
00:09:52.200 we would inject as the vaccine,
00:09:53.280 or we would attenuate
00:09:55.520 or lessen the virus by irradiating it,
00:09:58.720 and we would inject the actual virus.
00:10:00.900 Those took a long time,
00:10:02.560 but now the technology is much quicker,
00:10:05.180 and the scientists we said,
00:10:06.880 we had in,
00:10:07.940 said that there's no real reason
00:10:09.440 to have gain-of-function research.
00:10:11.000 It's not worked in the past,
00:10:12.320 and they don't expect it in the future.
00:10:14.380 But here's the real rub.
00:10:15.620 So if you evaluate risks and benefits,
00:10:18.800 and even if there were benefits,
00:10:21.040 the people who oppose this,
00:10:22.660 and I'm one of them,
00:10:23.900 are worried that we could have a virus
00:10:25.900 that has 50% mortality,
00:10:28.320 that they're doing experiments
00:10:29.720 that viruses that could kill
00:10:31.380 half of the American population,
00:10:33.160 half of the world's population,
00:10:35.020 and then they're saying,
00:10:36.040 oh, well, it's not aerosolized well.
00:10:38.680 You know, it doesn't spread through the air.
00:10:40.360 Why don't we try to experiment
00:10:41.840 and force its mutations
00:10:43.260 such to make it aerosolized?
00:10:46.080 One of the scientists we had said
00:10:47.520 that this is a death wish for civilization.
00:10:50.960 All three scientists we had came in
00:10:52.820 and said that we should probably regulate this
00:10:56.140 as we regulate nuclear centrifuges.
00:10:59.400 You can't just go to the corner store
00:11:01.140 and buy a centrifuge.
00:11:02.540 You can't sell them to Iran or China or Russia.
00:11:06.180 There are export controls.
00:11:08.260 They think this should be treated as a weapon
00:11:10.220 and that this should be very significantly
00:11:12.760 guarded by protocols and or controls,
00:11:16.100 and I'm all for it.
00:11:18.120 I think that there is a real danger lurking
00:11:20.240 of something much worse
00:11:21.540 than what we just experienced.
00:11:23.460 Well, I couldn't agree more,
00:11:24.660 and I think that when you have a situation
00:11:26.480 where not only is this, by the way,
00:11:28.340 not being done within the confines
00:11:30.540 of the United States,
00:11:31.560 where at least you would hope
00:11:32.580 that we would have some kind of oversight of it,
00:11:34.660 this is being done behind the borders
00:11:36.420 of the People's Republic of China
00:11:37.840 under the auspices of a CCP-controlled research facility,
00:11:42.360 which who knows what other ties they have there,
00:11:44.520 what other methods or uses they could be looking
00:11:47.140 for whatever comes out of this lab,
00:11:48.620 whatever they're able to cook up there.
00:11:50.380 But getting back to your special counsel proposition
00:11:53.700 and really going back to Dr. Fauci,
00:11:55.860 because your most recent dust-up with him
00:11:58.620 wasn't necessarily about the gain of function.
00:12:00.900 It was actually on the vaccines.
00:12:02.140 Would you be looking at having this special counsel
00:12:05.440 or the investigation writ large
00:12:07.080 look into the vaccine approval process,
00:12:11.080 this counsel?
00:12:12.160 I know you were talking, of course,
00:12:13.280 about whether or not people on this counsel
00:12:15.480 possibly stood to gain financially from it,
00:12:18.380 and then also this idea of whether or not
00:12:20.320 they looked at natural immunity,
00:12:21.720 because my wife, myself, our children,
00:12:24.460 we've all had it.
00:12:25.440 We believe we have natural immunity.
00:12:26.880 We're doing just fine without the vaccine,
00:12:28.980 but did they even take a chance to consider it?
00:12:34.300 So basic conflict of interest is something
00:12:37.240 that happens from the school board level
00:12:39.120 all the way to Washington.
00:12:40.580 So if you imagine your local school board,
00:12:43.020 if a member of the school board also sold textbooks
00:12:45.900 and there was a contract for textbooks
00:12:48.060 and his company was bidding for it,
00:12:50.340 you think he would be allowed or she would be allowed
00:12:52.500 to vote on that issue that she wouldn't have to reveal that?
00:12:56.280 This is what we're talking about here.
00:12:57.940 And you have to realize the level of resistance
00:13:00.760 that Dr. Fauci has put up.
00:13:03.280 And this makes us think that there is something to hide
00:13:05.700 because of his level of resistance.
00:13:09.060 They were asked at the NIH,
00:13:10.860 do any doctors receive royalties?
00:13:13.340 They refused to answer.
00:13:15.060 So when you do Freedom of Information Act,
00:13:17.240 you go to a court and the judge tells them,
00:13:20.060 through the Freedom of Information Act,
00:13:21.440 you have to reveal this.
00:13:22.800 So they finally revealed the totals,
00:13:24.860 but not the specifics.
00:13:25.960 We discovered that 1,800 NIH doctors
00:13:29.280 have received $193 million.
00:13:32.980 That's not a small amount of money, $193 million.
00:13:36.720 But what we want to know is which doctors
00:13:39.720 and how much and from what companies.
00:13:42.760 Because I don't think you should be allowed
00:13:44.600 to sit and vote on approving any kind of medications,
00:13:48.660 but much less something that is extraordinarily profitable
00:13:52.300 like this vaccine.
00:13:53.420 You shouldn't be able to vote on that
00:13:55.220 if you're also getting royalties.
00:13:57.360 If someone in the committee is getting $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 a year
00:14:00.820 from the pharmaceutical company that makes a vaccine,
00:14:04.300 wouldn't that preclude them?
00:14:05.840 Wouldn't that automatically make them ineligible?
00:14:09.100 But we don't know it.
00:14:10.280 And here's Fauci's response.
00:14:12.100 We don't have to tell you that there was a law passed in 1980
00:14:15.780 and that law protects us.
00:14:18.480 So my staff, we are currently looking at that law
00:14:21.240 and looking how to change that law, which takes a while.
00:14:25.120 But we're also making sure that they're actually interpreting the law.
00:14:28.200 But here's the rub of this.
00:14:29.820 If Republicans win, I will be a chairman of a committee,
00:14:33.460 I will use the subpoena power,
00:14:35.300 and I will get all of those records.
00:14:36.980 And I will force this issue till we find out the truth.
00:14:41.460 And if there is no one on the committee receiving money,
00:14:43.860 I'll announce that as well.
00:14:45.800 I'm not prejudging this.
00:14:47.640 On whether or not the virus originated in the lab,
00:14:50.320 I'll bring on experts on both sides of the issue.
00:14:52.980 But I've looked at the evidence here,
00:14:55.120 and there's a mountain of evidence saying it came from the lab
00:14:57.980 and almost no evidence, if any evidence,
00:15:00.860 saying it came from animals.
00:15:02.360 On the issue of naturally acquired immunity,
00:15:06.380 we showed Dr. Fauci a film of himself from 2004
00:15:10.060 when a woman called in and said,
00:15:11.920 my daughter's had the flu.
00:15:13.040 Does she have to have a flu vaccine?
00:15:14.940 And he said, absolutely not.
00:15:16.880 The best vaccine is the virus itself,
00:15:19.520 better than any vaccination is having had the infection.
00:15:22.820 This was common knowledge until Dr. Fauci became,
00:15:26.180 you know, director of the apparatus of public health.
00:15:30.680 And he became consumed with his power,
00:15:33.720 and he's forgotten basic immunology.
00:15:36.760 Or even worse, he still remembers basic immunology,
00:15:40.880 but he discounts it because he's afraid
00:15:43.480 he can't get complete submission
00:15:45.160 if people think for themselves.
00:15:47.640 And that, I think, is the arrogance of elitism.
00:15:50.000 And I think that is really his chief motivation,
00:15:53.320 is that he thinks he's smarter than the public.
00:15:55.160 The public can't handle the truth.
00:15:57.180 And so he's going to just tell you what to do,
00:15:59.280 and you should just listen to him.
00:16:01.040 Well, I think it's also this sort of new idea
00:16:04.240 that government bureaucrats should just be the one,
00:16:07.740 unelected, by the way, unlike yourself
00:16:09.340 and other members of the House and the Senate, right?
00:16:12.860 He's not elected.
00:16:13.680 He's a bureaucrat.
00:16:14.680 Yet somehow we have a situation now in our country,
00:16:16.780 which I don't know if your constitution
00:16:18.940 is any different than mine, Senator,
00:16:20.640 but my constitution doesn't say
00:16:22.320 that unelected bureaucrats get to rule by edict.
00:16:25.240 That sounds like something that Woodrow Wilson
00:16:27.100 cooked up about 100 years ago
00:16:29.400 and now is coming to fruition,
00:16:30.800 this idea of scientism,
00:16:32.580 but really this administrative state
00:16:34.800 that's come to be able to rule
00:16:36.740 in charge of pretty much any decision,
00:16:39.200 whether it be, obviously, in the medical space,
00:16:41.120 we saw the greatest, I think, example of this.
00:16:43.820 But you also see it in academia.
00:16:45.160 You see it when it comes to the military,
00:16:46.640 in many cases.
00:16:47.400 You see it when it comes to the border,
00:16:49.060 so many other of these interest areas.
00:16:51.840 It's we have to go along with whatever it is
00:16:53.880 that the administration
00:16:54.560 or the administrative state tells us,
00:16:56.020 these agencies tell us,
00:16:57.120 rather than actually listening
00:16:58.520 to the representatives of the people.
00:17:01.440 You know, one of the things
00:17:02.540 our founders understood very keenly
00:17:04.440 was that the way to have and protect freedom
00:17:07.360 is to check and balance,
00:17:09.120 to have check and balances
00:17:10.060 and vie for ambition
00:17:12.380 between the two branches of government.
00:17:14.340 But the administrative state
00:17:15.460 has gotten out of control.
00:17:16.580 So I recently proposed in committee
00:17:18.920 that we end his position
00:17:21.340 and we divide it into three
00:17:23.260 and that there's approval by the Senate
00:17:25.320 so the Senate gets to weigh in
00:17:26.800 on that position
00:17:27.680 because I think he has way too much power.
00:17:30.340 We had no Democrat votes in favor,
00:17:32.380 but unfortunately and sadly,
00:17:34.800 we lost five Republicans as well.
00:17:37.120 And this is a problem we have is
00:17:38.740 we need some,
00:17:40.440 even on the Republican side,
00:17:41.820 people with the courage
00:17:42.740 to stand up to this man,
00:17:44.520 to stand up to the bureaucracy.
00:17:45.900 If we're not going to do oversight,
00:17:47.760 if we're not going to have any checks
00:17:48.680 and balances
00:17:49.340 and we're going to let bureaucrats
00:17:51.000 become and wield unlimited power,
00:17:54.440 that's a real problem.
00:17:55.760 And you're right,
00:17:56.420 so much of this comes
00:17:57.240 from the administrative state,
00:17:58.480 from the executive branch.
00:18:00.040 It is arguable
00:18:01.280 that the executive agencies
00:18:03.420 are more powerful
00:18:04.540 than Congress at this point.
00:18:06.500 That's why the recent Supreme Court ruling
00:18:08.340 on EPA versus West Virginia
00:18:09.960 is good because they ruled
00:18:11.960 that if the law is ambiguous,
00:18:15.280 the power can't be assumed
00:18:17.420 to be there for the agencies.
00:18:19.580 The EPA,
00:18:20.240 if it doesn't tell them
00:18:21.000 they can do something explicitly,
00:18:22.700 it's not assumed
00:18:23.720 that they can do
00:18:24.300 whatever what they want.
00:18:25.540 But that's the way it's been
00:18:26.440 for three or four decades now.
00:18:28.380 The Supreme Court
00:18:29.140 abandoned this responsibility
00:18:30.540 and said to the executive state,
00:18:32.900 to the administrator,
00:18:33.600 you can do whatever you want.
00:18:35.200 But the power in this new ruling,
00:18:37.220 if this is consistently applied
00:18:38.860 and we have more rulings like this,
00:18:40.960 may be the biggest blow
00:18:42.340 for a limited constitutional government
00:18:44.280 that we've had in a century.
00:18:46.540 Now, Senator,
00:18:47.380 we only have about two minutes left,
00:18:48.940 but I wanted to know
00:18:49.600 if I could just switch gears
00:18:50.800 for a second here.
00:18:51.960 I understand you have to jump,
00:18:53.140 but we're hearing now,
00:18:54.680 so President Trump,
00:18:55.680 his team,
00:18:56.460 former President Trump,
00:18:57.320 met with the special master.
00:18:58.800 They're going through all this
00:18:59.740 with the Department of Justice.
00:19:01.940 There is a real consideration now
00:19:04.260 that former President Trump
00:19:05.300 could be facing
00:19:06.120 a criminal indictment
00:19:07.860 in relation to this
00:19:09.420 classified record situation.
00:19:11.500 What do you think that says
00:19:12.960 for where we are as a country
00:19:14.520 in terms of everything
00:19:15.260 you just spoke of?
00:19:17.300 You know, it's very common
00:19:18.520 in the third world
00:19:19.500 for ex-presidents
00:19:20.700 to be prosecuted
00:19:21.660 and put in jail.
00:19:22.900 It's something that we prided ourselves
00:19:24.780 in not being a banana republic.
00:19:27.520 The other thing
00:19:28.340 that we have to recall
00:19:29.380 and never forget
00:19:31.020 is that the FBI abused their power
00:19:33.400 in investigating
00:19:34.160 when he was the nominee
00:19:35.600 and the candidate in 2016.
00:19:37.500 So true.
00:19:38.000 They used the foreign intelligence court,
00:19:40.280 a secret court,
00:19:41.140 to go after his campaign.
00:19:43.140 Even under the secret court,
00:19:44.860 which is supposed to be used
00:19:45.800 for foreigners,
00:19:46.620 they were found
00:19:47.500 to have violated the law
00:19:48.680 16 or 17 times
00:19:50.620 in investigating him.
00:19:52.340 But my point has been,
00:19:54.340 and my father's before me,
00:19:56.080 has been that
00:19:56.760 we shouldn't use foreign
00:19:58.420 or foreign intelligence courts
00:20:00.580 that are secret
00:20:01.340 on Americans ever.
00:20:02.580 I don't care if it's Joe Biden
00:20:04.440 or Hunter Biden
00:20:05.260 or anybody else.
00:20:06.140 They should have
00:20:06.700 the Constitution,
00:20:08.500 an Article III court,
00:20:09.800 a public trial.
00:20:10.800 They should be allowed
00:20:11.420 to defend themselves.
00:20:13.080 And so I think
00:20:13.580 it's a real crime
00:20:14.700 what they did
00:20:15.280 to President Trump
00:20:16.640 or candidate Trump
00:20:17.900 through the FISA court.
00:20:19.340 And now I think
00:20:19.920 the burden's on the FBI
00:20:21.140 to show that they're actually
00:20:22.740 obeying the law
00:20:23.620 because many of us
00:20:25.660 suspect the worst.
00:20:26.980 Just two weeks ago,
00:20:28.040 an FBI agent
00:20:28.900 was fired
00:20:29.640 for suppressing information
00:20:31.320 about Hunter Biden
00:20:32.320 and suppressing
00:20:33.000 that investigation.
00:20:34.740 So for people to say,
00:20:35.960 oh, nothing to see here,
00:20:37.740 no bias,
00:20:38.900 you've got Peter Strzok
00:20:40.160 still squawking around
00:20:42.260 saying,
00:20:42.880 oh, look what we see here,
00:20:44.360 you know,
00:20:44.960 and gloating
00:20:45.900 over all of this
00:20:47.000 from a guy
00:20:47.920 who was,
00:20:48.720 you know,
00:20:49.000 the king of abuse
00:20:50.200 and the king
00:20:50.780 of abusing power
00:20:51.620 when he was at the FBI
00:20:52.620 and resigned in disgrace.
00:20:54.500 They still have
00:20:55.120 on television
00:20:55.880 touting
00:20:57.080 and going after Trump.
00:20:58.920 It's a disgrace.
00:21:00.240 But I think
00:21:00.860 there's a real burden here.
00:21:02.200 As far as what
00:21:03.080 the final facts will be,
00:21:04.200 we'll find out over time.
00:21:05.740 But I am concerned
00:21:07.280 that at the very least,
00:21:09.560 the president's
00:21:10.100 not being treated fairly.
00:21:11.500 Well, I couldn't agree more.
00:21:12.600 It certainly seems
00:21:13.260 like something,
00:21:13.900 like you say,
00:21:14.400 out of a third world country,
00:21:15.680 if you're looking
00:21:16.040 at the Middle East
00:21:17.180 or somewhere in Latin America,
00:21:19.560 South America,
00:21:20.380 you'd be pretty used
00:21:21.860 to seeing these types
00:21:22.720 of narratives.
00:21:23.260 Senator Rand Paul,
00:21:23.840 thank you so much
00:21:24.560 for joining us today.
00:21:25.760 Where can people go
00:21:26.640 to find more about you
00:21:28.300 or find more about
00:21:29.560 what you're up to
00:21:30.660 on a regular basis?
00:21:32.140 They can go to
00:21:32.620 RandPaul.com.
00:21:33.980 All right, RandPaul.com.
00:21:35.020 Thank you very much,
00:21:35.600 Senator.
00:21:35.800 Take care.
00:21:37.340 Thank you.
00:21:38.340 So there you have it, folks.
00:21:39.480 Senator Rand Paul,
00:21:40.900 not mincing words.
00:21:42.820 We're very grateful for him
00:21:44.020 and for the senator's office
00:21:45.220 for spending time with us here
00:21:46.600 at Human Events Daily
00:21:48.380 for our Sunday special,
00:21:49.960 of course,
00:21:50.260 powered by Turning Point USA.
00:21:51.860 I want to thank Turning Point
00:21:52.740 for setting this all up.
00:21:54.040 Hopefully, I don't know.
00:21:55.340 I've got to ask Charlie
00:21:56.120 about the lineup there
00:21:58.040 at AmericaFest.
00:21:58.860 I don't know if Senator Paul
00:22:00.540 has been invited yet,
00:22:01.940 but maybe I can pull
00:22:03.760 a few strings on the back end
00:22:05.540 because I think
00:22:06.240 that's exactly the type
00:22:07.780 of energy,
00:22:08.580 the exactly type of
00:22:10.320 just understanding
00:22:13.020 of these issues
00:22:14.160 that we need
00:22:15.220 from a political perspective.
00:22:16.700 And by the way,
00:22:18.520 I don't know what's going on
00:22:19.580 in 2024,
00:22:20.440 but there might be
00:22:20.940 some discussions
00:22:21.600 involving Senator Rand Paul
00:22:23.660 as well
00:22:24.260 for one or the other
00:22:26.160 slot on the ticket.
00:22:28.560 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:22:29.200 as always,
00:22:30.020 you have my permission
00:22:30.900 to lay ashore.
00:22:31.940 Medicare for the benefits.
00:22:32.520 Thanks for listening to this commission.
00:22:35.760 Bye.
00:22:38.300 Bye.
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