Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 17, 2025


ICE Is Rescuing Small Town America, Parents' Rights & The Latest On Epstein


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46 minutes

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172.69354

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8,004

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565

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

ICE raids in the streets of Norristown, PA have the entire community on edge of a panic. President Donald Trump is doubling down on his trade war with China. The FBI is stepping up its search for the person who drew a gun and fired at officers during a protest in Camarillo last week. The Senate passes a massive spending cuts package and it heads back to the House for final approval before tomorrow's deadline.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:40.400 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:47.060 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:50.180 Christ is king.
00:00:51.220 Today we strike a righteous blow to the drug dealers, narcotic traffickers, and criminal cartels
00:00:57.880 that we've all been hearing so much about for so many years.
00:01:00.820 And we take a historic step toward justice for every family touched by the fentanyl scourge
00:01:07.120 as we sign the Halt Fentanyl Act into law.
00:01:11.940 The Senate approving a massive spending cuts package just in the last few hours.
00:01:16.460 So now it heads back to the House for final approval before tomorrow's deadline.
00:01:20.440 Actually, there was supposed to be an Epstein joke here, but as it got deleted, must have
00:01:28.260 probably deleted itself, right?
00:01:30.340 All these complaints online going after Trump and the Epstein files, you might think his approval
00:01:35.560 ratings were going down with Republicans.
00:01:37.580 If anything, they're going up.
00:01:39.380 He is at the apex or close there too in terms of his popularity with Republican voters.
00:01:44.660 President Donald Trump is doubling down on tariffs.
00:01:48.280 He says he'll likely impose pharmaceutical duties at the end of the month and eventually
00:01:52.900 could hike them to 200 percent.
00:01:55.840 Trump also says he'll impose a 19 percent tariff on Indonesian goods soon.
00:02:00.480 The FBI is stepping up its search for the person who drew a gun and fired at officers during
00:02:05.580 a protest in Camarillo last week.
00:02:07.560 The FBI now offering $50,000 for information leading to his identification, arrest, and conviction.
00:02:13.940 ICE agents on the ground in West Narrington this morning taking more than one dozen individuals
00:02:19.900 into custody as outraged community members looked on and some tried intervening.
00:02:25.180 ICE tells NBC10 federal agents from Homeland Security Investigations and the IRS were at
00:02:30.380 the super gigante farmer's market conducting a federal court-authorized search.
00:02:35.160 Covering your faces.
00:02:36.520 This is disgusting.
00:02:38.140 You should be ashamed of yourselves.
00:02:40.860 You should be ashamed.
00:02:42.000 These are hard-working people.
00:02:43.960 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:02:50.820 We're here in Washington, D.C.
00:02:53.600 Today is July 17th, 2025, Anno, Dominique.
00:02:57.280 And folks, what can I say?
00:02:59.000 I support my local ICE raids.
00:03:02.760 I support my hometown ICE raid.
00:03:05.960 As of yesterday, ICE began raids in bodegas in my hometown, Norristown, Pennsylvania.
00:03:14.280 And I got to say, hat is off to you.
00:03:17.640 By the way, we had the Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security on here yesterday.
00:03:22.740 Had no idea this was going on.
00:03:24.860 Obviously, this isn't something that's run from the top down like that.
00:03:28.000 But these raids came on.
00:03:30.020 And apparently, this left-wing organization and this left-wing absolute just nut job.
00:03:36.460 Her name is Rachel Rudder.
00:03:38.980 Rachel Rudder was down there hanging out.
00:03:42.000 And she was screaming.
00:03:43.280 And she's got this article up about it.
00:03:44.940 And you could see her flailing about.
00:03:47.320 And she wrote an entire sub-stack about this.
00:03:51.140 About, again, my hometown ICE raid, Norristown, Pennsylvania.
00:03:53.760 I've been waiting for this for 20 years, personally.
00:03:57.140 Waiting to get these invaders out of my town.
00:04:00.660 Fire up the go-back mobile, okay?
00:04:03.580 I want them out.
00:04:04.580 I want them gone.
00:04:05.860 Here's Rachel Rudder.
00:04:07.160 I saw a military-style ICE raid firsthand.
00:04:10.460 It's only going to get worse.
00:04:12.880 ICE is coming for our neighbors.
00:04:14.520 We must be prepared to fight back.
00:04:18.360 Today, it was inexplicable.
00:04:20.720 It was military-style.
00:04:22.880 There's an outpouring of support at Project Libertad.
00:04:26.560 Which is, by the way, they call it Libertad, not Libertad.
00:04:29.240 Which I'm a little confused about.
00:04:30.480 Okay, whatever.
00:04:31.540 You know, we have volunteers and community members.
00:04:33.880 No, you're aiding and embedding an illegal invasion of the United States of America.
00:04:38.880 And probably, if you're aiding and embedding this, you should be arrested along with them.
00:04:44.560 God bless the men and women of ICE.
00:04:47.860 Folks, what can I say?
00:04:49.660 Justice is finally being done for the people who were run out of their homes and the people who lost their communities.
00:04:58.180 God bless ICE.
00:04:59.720 Be right back.
00:05:00.360 Jack Sovitt.
00:05:00.900 Nothing will stand in our way.
00:05:20.420 And our golden age has just begun.
00:05:22.760 This is Human Events with Jack Posobus.
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00:05:39.760 By the way, we understand that the press conference is still going on.
00:05:43.980 I wanted to also put some information out regarding that.
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00:07:06.000 Folks, we are working on getting this clip
00:07:09.280 from the press conference just now.
00:07:13.640 And I want to, we're going to work on that very quickly.
00:07:16.660 But until then, I want to bring on Richard Barris,
00:07:19.220 the People's Pundit here joining us.
00:07:22.400 Because, Rich, you've been outspoken regarding the handling of a number of these issues
00:07:28.380 in a lot of, you know, the last 30 days.
00:07:32.240 Really just the last 30 days.
00:07:33.520 And, you know, something that I've been reading and I've seen a lot of people point this out
00:07:38.520 is the story of the brocasters.
00:07:40.620 And the brocasters, your Shane Gillis's, like last night at the ESPYs, making fun of Epstein.
00:07:46.700 Shane Gillis also recently said on his podcast that the reason that Trump won't release the Epstein files,
00:07:52.200 in his view, is that Trump is in the Epstein files.
00:07:54.860 So Shane Gillis said that on his podcast.
00:07:57.340 And then Theo Vaughn said, you know, you know, basically re-upped the clip of J.D. Vance from 2024,
00:08:03.820 back in October, their own interview saying, what changed?
00:08:06.860 Why aren't these files coming out?
00:08:08.660 And you've also seen Andrew Schultz, someone who wasn't really on the Trump train,
00:08:13.000 but at least one of these brocasters who has a massive audience,
00:08:16.440 saying that not only does he not support Trump anymore, he regrets it.
00:08:19.280 And he's now supporting Zoran Mondami.
00:08:22.520 So, Rich, let me ask you about this.
00:08:25.140 These brocaster types, does it make sense, does it make sense that we should view them,
00:08:32.460 are they part of the liberal establishment, or should we view them as sort of a proxy
00:08:36.440 for those low-prop independent votes that you and I were talking about so much last year,
00:08:42.940 specifically in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan?
00:08:45.900 By the way, Shane Gillis, he's from the exact same place in Pennsylvania that I'm from,
00:08:49.640 or at least he came up in the Philadelphia area.
00:08:51.680 So, Mike, I think we know a little bit about these guys because we're, like, from there.
00:08:56.500 Rich, the floor is yours.
00:08:58.260 Well, and thanks as always for having me on, Jack,
00:09:00.960 but I would point out that they're not alone, right?
00:09:04.180 So they're, you know, people that may not traditionally be seen as MAGA,
00:09:09.240 but certainly there were a lot of OG MAGA types who also had their own questions.
00:09:13.680 And there's a reason why these people do appeal to certain segments and certain audiences.
00:09:19.960 So to pretend like they don't mean anything is, of course, just foolish.
00:09:23.940 I mean, the podcaster crossover between MAGA and certain liberals that even supported Trump
00:09:32.740 and independents, and going all the way down to Joe Rogan, right?
00:09:36.220 The biggest name out there.
00:09:37.400 They, without a doubt, beat out the legacy media establishment in the narrative war with the 2024 election.
00:09:46.000 Even legacy media knows that, right?
00:09:48.860 So to now just dismiss the, oh, and by the way, one of them, who is a mutual friend of ours,
00:09:54.240 probably did more to get out the vote in a certain battleground state,
00:09:59.160 and a couple, but one particularly, than the RNC has ever done.
00:10:03.320 He had to take his own organization and turn it into a get out the vote effort
00:10:08.020 because the RNC is absolutely incompetent in doing that,
00:10:13.200 targeting low propensity voters and getting them out.
00:10:15.880 They are a proxy for them.
00:10:17.220 Of course, Jack, I mean, you know the answer to that question.
00:10:20.000 There is a reason why these disconnected and disaffected voters turn to alternative sources of information
00:10:26.940 and alternative sources of news outside of the legacy media establishment,
00:10:31.280 and it's because that's what fits their profile.
00:10:34.480 They deeply distrust institutions.
00:10:36.740 They deeply distrust the political process, the halls of power in general.
00:10:42.840 And they are the voters that Republicans need to turn electorates into something different,
00:10:49.700 especially now that they have the low propensity vote.
00:10:53.440 And that's something that somebody, everybody, everybody is missing.
00:10:57.320 This will not be 2010 or 2014 anymore.
00:11:00.120 In fact, we already know that.
00:11:02.140 Look what happened in 18 before the redistricting of the map for all of those people
00:11:06.380 who are passing around their cute little RCP before and after averages with the last couple of cycles.
00:11:13.480 18 was a completely different congressional map, Jack.
00:11:16.700 And now we have 22 and we have 24 we can look at.
00:11:20.260 They already ran behind Donald Trump among these voters,
00:11:23.920 and they have a very difficult time getting them out without him on the ballot.
00:11:27.420 It was their core and sole priority to bring these voters permanently into the fold.
00:11:34.080 And that is the cause for concern that some people like myself and others are trying to alert people of now.
00:11:41.940 So when you're talking about this, no, wait a minute, because I just saw CNN and CNN says Trump's numbers are way up with GOP.
00:11:48.860 So how can they be up with GOP if they're down with independents?
00:11:52.260 How does it make any sense, Rich?
00:11:54.380 All right.
00:11:54.740 First of all, I mean, if you're a Trump supporter and you are now reducing yourself to citing a Quinnipiac or CNN poll
00:12:01.660 and a segment by Harry Enten, you might have lost objectivity.
00:12:05.560 The pollsters who actually got the election correctly and have been getting elections correctly,
00:12:09.800 it's not a one-off, have been getting elections correctly, all see the same thing.
00:12:14.060 We all see the same thing.
00:12:15.880 A big mistake people are making, number one.
00:12:18.440 First of all, it's not true that Trump is going up.
00:12:21.460 Show me this strongly for a somewhat disapprove rating versus approve among those different partisan identifying groups.
00:12:31.120 And the reason why they're not showing that is because we can show you what ours also tell us,
00:12:36.920 which is that strong disapproval has fallen from 68% to 53%.
00:12:41.060 Some of them have moved into somewhat approved, but the idea that a one- or two-point increase is something to jump up and down for joy about is laughable.
00:12:51.340 It's a statistically insignificant difference from their last poll.
00:12:57.820 If they would have showed you the difference between strongly and somewhat approve,
00:13:01.360 I can guarantee you that a huge chunk from strongly approved shifted over to somewhat.
00:13:06.920 And some of that somewhat shifted over to somewhat disapprove.
00:13:11.060 All right, and the second problem with that analysis is that it's not just about partisan identifying Republicans.
00:13:18.900 That's the key with Trump.
00:13:20.680 That's what made him different than other Republican candidates.
00:13:24.440 Base is not just Republican identifying.
00:13:27.560 MAGA doesn't mean Republican.
00:13:30.200 The two things are not mutually exclusive and equal.
00:13:33.700 MAGA is Republican, of course, and it's majority Republican, but it also includes a segment of the independent votes,
00:13:41.440 specifically one that says that they have not, when we ask them, do you have more in common with the Republicans, Democrats?
00:13:47.800 We've been over this on your show a million times, Jack.
00:13:50.180 They're the ones who say that I have little in common with either party.
00:13:55.140 And that's the number that you have to watch.
00:13:57.760 I mean, if you're jumping up and down for joy because his Republican approval rating went up 1.2 points without considering all of that,
00:14:05.020 while his independent number is negative 20, then again, you might have lost objectivity or you may be coping.
00:14:12.080 It's there.
00:14:13.100 Two things can be true at once.
00:14:14.700 You can celebrate the achievements the president made and recognize the mishandling of certain things.
00:14:20.620 And I've seen this movie before, Jack.
00:14:23.040 So have you in the first administration.
00:14:25.460 If you have any criticism whatsoever, you know, people want to try to, like, you know, browbeat you.
00:14:34.340 And then we watch that, you know, we watch that devolve into things that ultimately did harm his presidency.
00:14:40.620 And that's why so many of his voters now are upset.
00:14:44.320 It's like they have PTSD.
00:14:45.920 And it's not that their support for him is in question.
00:14:49.720 It's that they legitimately want to see him succeed.
00:14:52.440 Yeah, you're talking about enthusiasm.
00:14:53.260 So they're worried about any repeat of what they had seen in the past.
00:14:56.480 You're talking about all these things.
00:14:57.300 You can't blame them for that.
00:14:58.240 Rich, we're coming up on a quick break here.
00:15:00.460 I'm going to hold you over, and we've got this clip from Caroline Levitt.
00:15:03.760 And we're going to play right after the break.
00:15:06.380 Human Events Daily, Bill America's Voice.
00:15:07.860 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
00:15:16.100 These are influencers.
00:15:17.960 And they're friends of mine.
00:15:20.360 Jack Pesovic.
00:15:21.840 Where's Jack?
00:15:22.800 Jack.
00:15:23.820 He's done a great job.
00:15:25.460 All right, Jack Pesovic.
00:15:29.500 Here we are back.
00:15:30.300 Human Events Daily.
00:15:31.600 All right, folks, this is a clip that just played recently.
00:15:36.520 Caroline Levitt there in the press briefing of the White House gets asked a question about
00:15:41.340 special prosecutor on Jeffrey Epstein.
00:15:44.320 Here's the official word from the White House.
00:15:46.980 Go ahead.
00:15:47.660 Thank you, Caroline.
00:15:49.060 No, I called on Charlie, but Deanna, you can go ahead too.
00:15:51.760 Go ahead.
00:15:52.100 The president said that he floated the idea of a special prosecutor in the Epstein case.
00:15:57.760 Can you confirm that?
00:15:58.880 And has he asked the attorney general to do this, to appoint a special prosecutor, to look
00:16:04.140 it over?
00:16:04.600 Well, the idea was floated from someone in the media to the president.
00:16:08.360 The president would not recommend a special prosecutor in the Epstein case.
00:16:12.540 That's how he feels.
00:16:13.520 And as for his discussions with the attorney general, I'm not sure.
00:16:16.560 Deanna.
00:16:16.960 Thank you so much.
00:16:20.580 Okay, so no special prosecutor on Epstein.
00:16:23.740 There was a report yesterday that President Trump was considering this, but there's the
00:16:27.940 official word from the White House.
00:16:30.820 I want to get Richard Barris in here.
00:16:32.440 Richard, I know that, you know, you and I were on air when this happened.
00:16:35.780 Can I get your just snap response to that?
00:16:38.760 I just think, you know, then the clip from John Solomon's show, you know, just the news
00:16:45.800 yesterday did get a lot of supporters excited that there would be a special prosecutor.
00:16:51.720 And so this is, again, the problem is the mixed message that's coming.
00:16:58.000 I think he should have just come out from the jump and said, look, Democrats had these
00:17:01.840 files.
00:17:02.520 And you know how I personally feel about this, Jack.
00:17:05.160 I think it was really naive to believe that the Comeys and, you know, the Obama administration
00:17:11.960 people, the Biden administration people would ever have left the integrity of these files
00:17:16.600 intact, right?
00:17:17.940 So that if it would have been done and over with, if from the beginning, the administration
00:17:23.020 and the president would have just simply taken the stance, look, guys, these are the same
00:17:27.020 scumbags who did me dirty with the Russia collusion hoax.
00:17:29.880 I'm going to need some time to make sure that we don't run any people through the mud unnecessarily
00:17:34.900 here.
00:17:35.540 You know, we'll see what we can do with it, but we're still looking at it.
00:17:37.940 And I'm telling you, we could have rode that to the end of his term and it wouldn't have
00:17:41.660 been that huge of a deal.
00:17:42.820 Uh, but it became a big deal because of how it was handled and it's a proxy.
00:17:48.400 I mean, this is what I think a lot of people aren't understanding.
00:17:51.020 If we poll people and we ask them, what's your most important issue?
00:17:53.880 Few people are going to tell us, Jack, that, you know, the Epstein files are their number
00:17:58.200 one issue.
00:17:59.260 You know, they always say things like the economy and inflation and immigration, but in the
00:18:03.820 2024 election, unaccountability in government was a huge, huge issue.
00:18:09.800 And we would see it and manifest in phrases like threats to democracy, right?
00:18:15.080 And that's why he actually beat Kamala Harris after all of the talk about January 6th.
00:18:19.720 He actually beat Kamala Harris among voters who said that threats to democracy was the
00:18:25.100 number one issue because the psyche of what it meant to them had changed, right?
00:18:30.360 The window had shifted.
00:18:31.800 It no longer meant January 6th, right?
00:18:34.420 And Republican or right-wing threats to democracy.
00:18:36.780 It meant this ruling class, abusing power, getting away with things, weaponizing the
00:18:42.900 Justice Department, you know, crippling government with corruption.
00:18:47.220 That's what it meant to those voters.
00:18:48.940 So it serves as a proxy issue in that.
00:18:52.760 And I just don't think that people fully appreciated that.
00:18:56.020 And here we are now.
00:18:56.920 So that being said, here we are now, the, just your, your immediate response, not necessarily
00:19:03.880 from a polling perspective, but I guess just from, you know, a comms perspective or a PR
00:19:07.620 perspective, you know, the story, as you say, you know, people were very excited about this
00:19:12.600 John Solomon report yesterday that just the news and now to hear, and the president certainly
00:19:17.120 seemed like he was open to it in that interview, but then he, he denied it later in an event at
00:19:24.220 the white house and now you hear this unequivocal, um, you know, basically just shut down from
00:19:29.380 the press secretary.
00:19:31.720 Do you think this is the kind of thing that's going to make this story go away or is this
00:19:35.560 going to galvanize people?
00:19:37.880 Uh, no, I mean, I don't think it's going to go away.
00:19:40.400 I think it's going to be a problem and I get the president's frustration.
00:19:43.760 He's thinking from the perspective, Jack, look at how much I've done.
00:19:46.800 Right.
00:19:47.920 And, you know, I, I, we got the big, beautiful bill through we, and I know that people were
00:19:53.180 mocking him, but actually the, the cane sugar and Coca-Cola is that's a huge win politically.
00:19:58.720 Maha is a big deal.
00:19:59.940 People underestimate it.
00:20:01.100 So I get his frustration because he has so many accomplishments under his belt, but that
00:20:07.440 doesn't take away from the mixed met.
00:20:10.040 If you want people to celebrate those accomplishments, then you can't do things on, you know, that
00:20:17.040 step on those accomplishments.
00:20:18.420 And that's been going on for a number of weeks in our numbers.
00:20:21.980 It's not just, you know, the Epstein files are not alone here.
00:20:26.260 This is like a culmination of, you know, the last month of, uh, people starting to question
00:20:32.760 things and starting to, you know, have, have some, have some problems.
00:20:36.480 Uh, and I don't think they got the time to get the, the win, the honeymoon, the celebration
00:20:43.140 from when the big, beautiful bill, you know, got passed into now another issue.
00:20:47.880 And what do I mean by that?
00:20:49.360 I mean, it's, this started with Iran, 18 to 20 year old support for Donald Trump collapsed
00:20:54.860 when he bombed Iran.
00:20:56.320 And with all we were talking about his approval rating before, it's interesting because we
00:21:01.140 call our show inside the numbers for a reason.
00:21:03.340 It matters beyond just the headline spin in the narrative.
00:21:06.880 The only reason that his approval rating did not fall more in our polling and in others
00:21:11.500 is because it's being that decline and a decline among Hispanic men and other groups that were
00:21:18.080 core Trump groups that he brought into the fold.
00:21:20.640 That was offset by educated voters who are voting for by double digits for Democrats in the,
00:21:27.700 in the, um, upcoming midterm elections anyway.
00:21:31.160 So we have actually seen this happen before when he made the decision in the early days
00:21:36.720 of the lockdowns to listen to, you know, the advice of advisors like Debbie and Fauci, right?
00:21:43.720 His approval rating with these, uh, voters, they increased when he did launch attacks on
00:21:48.660 alleged chemical sites in Syria, we saw those voters also increase, but his core vote doesn't
00:21:55.540 like it and decline. And I'm going to throw up some, I'm going to throw up this poll that we
00:22:00.940 have from democracy Institute regarding, uh, voters agree or disagree on the release of the
00:22:07.720 Epstein list. And I know you've seen similar numbers to this and it really gets into those
00:22:12.660 Trump 2024 voters, 67% disagree Harris 2024 voters, 58% disagree. This is the big one.
00:22:20.700 I think new voters, 2024, 72% disagree, 26% agree. And those are your new voters. Then independence,
00:22:29.580 a little bit smaller there, but it's still at 60%, uh, disagree with this. Those new voters and
00:22:35.260 working class voters at 72%. I mean, that that's what you're going to need to get. And by the way,
00:22:40.940 by the way, there are plenty of ways to get these voters on, on side, by the way, but this is
00:22:45.740 definitely something that just, it's going to pile up in terms of the disagreement out there
00:22:51.140 among working class voters, independent voters. There are ways to get them back, but browbeating
00:22:56.100 is not one of them. And that's the, this has to be recognized and addressed. Voters don't like to
00:23:01.780 be lectured. They don't like to be talked down to, and they don't like to be insulted. That is the
00:23:06.060 magic of the Trump candidacy turned into presidency. No matter what he did, he, you know, media would
00:23:12.380 always say, Oh, he lied about this. And voters would not take them literally. And they would say,
00:23:15.920 you know what? Maybe he didn't use the right choice of words, but he wasn't BSing us. Right.
00:23:20.180 He wasn't, he wasn't insulting our intelligence and he certainly wasn't attacking us. I mean,
00:23:24.980 that's the line. Some of his surrogates are now walking up to. That's the real danger. And they
00:23:29.820 have to run back Jack, because there are ways to get it to get it back. Remember they are the low
00:23:36.420 locals.peoplespundit.com. Locals.peoplespundit.com. We're right back, Jack.
00:23:41.960 Talk about influencers. These are influencers.
00:23:47.020 And Jack, where is Jack? Where is Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.
00:23:57.220 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always
00:24:02.540 talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who'd be getting
00:24:07.500 policies. To every politician and bureaucrat who thought they could bully moms and dads into
00:24:14.600 submission to the detriment of their children, you picked the wrong fight. Yeah, that's right.
00:24:23.960 Parents don't surrender their rights at the school doors. They don't answer to school boards
00:24:30.640 and they certainly don't take marching orders from a weaponized Department of Justice.
00:24:37.080 President Trump has stood with these parents from day one and we stand with him and I stand with these
00:24:43.900 parents. All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back live, Human Events Daily. Just saw that incredible
00:24:52.360 press conference there with Congressman Andy Biggs, Washington, D.C. That was yesterday,
00:24:59.840 but we've got the great Sam Sorbo now joining us. She was there at the press conference. Sam,
00:25:06.020 how are you? Really good. It was such a great day yesterday. Unbelievable. It was hot,
00:25:12.300 but you can't tell that on the camera. And we had Andy Biggs there instead of Andy Ogles,
00:25:18.400 who sponsored the conference but was unable to get there because of plane trouble. Andy Biggs filled in
00:25:23.920 and he did such a fantastic job. And then, of course, Kelly Walker, my partner spoke and we had
00:25:28.780 several parents who have been beaten down by their own governments, which is what this is all about.
00:25:34.540 It's Parents Demanding Justice Alliance. And we're asking for an executive order from the commander
00:25:39.420 in chief or the person I like to refer to as the president in chief, because we need to make
00:25:45.420 parenting great again in this nation. Well, it's exactly that. So walk us through the themes of
00:25:51.940 the conference, the themes that we're getting out at the press conference that was held yesterday,
00:25:56.680 and also how this ties to the recent Supreme Court hearing that just came down a couple of weeks ago
00:26:03.320 regarding parental rights. Well, okay. So the Supreme Court hearing, I think you're referring to the one
00:26:09.640 that's a few days ago, where they said that he was, that Donald Trump was justified in firing
00:26:14.080 around 1,400 DOE employees. Now, the Department of Education doesn't really have very much to do
00:26:22.260 with the actual education of children. If you want to compare that and the challenge that was posed
00:26:27.440 that rose to the level of the Supreme Court with the Chicago public schools, who spent too much money
00:26:32.780 on illegals and thus had to fire 1,400 teachers, including special ed teachers, just the other day,
00:26:39.640 I think that that comparison is, is pretty stark. But what we're arguing is that because of Merrick
00:26:46.200 Garland and this letter that classified parents as domestic terrorists that went out during COVID,
00:26:52.900 and Merrick Garland then called on the FBI to treat these parents as if they were domestic terrorists,
00:26:59.840 that, that resulted in a catastrophic series of events for several of these parents who all they
00:27:06.220 were doing was trying to look out for their children, trying to question some of the woke
00:27:10.960 agenda that we have in our schools today, or some of the COVID mask policies that were instituted in
00:27:17.000 their schools that were actually adversely affecting and, and in some cases, really harming children.
00:27:22.740 We have one parent whose child was forced to wear a mask when he took the mask off and threw it in the
00:27:28.960 trash in the nurse's office. They made him fish it out of the trash and put that mask back on his face.
00:27:36.760 So these things, and by the way, then the parents were then targeted by their communities, by their
00:27:42.140 school boards who called for their firing, called for their businesses to be shut down. And, and so many
00:27:49.340 of these parents have been almost irreparably harmed. They need some sort of restitution. But bigger than
00:27:55.840 that, Jack, you know, this, this set a precedent in our schools to consider parents, um, expendable
00:28:02.460 and expose, disposable in terms of the, the education of their children. And that's absolutely not true.
00:28:08.440 Uh, parents are the number one indicator. Parental involvement is the number one indicator of, of
00:28:14.560 academic success for their kids. And so we need parents more involved, not less involved. Schools that
00:28:20.800 try to eliminate parents or sideline parents in the, uh, conversation about their children's education.
00:28:26.640 Those places are actually seeking the destruction of those children. That is not what we do in the
00:28:32.560 United States. And I know that we're 40th in the world of 40 developed nations for education. The
00:28:39.040 easiest way to start turning this around is to put parents back inside the schools, inside the classrooms,
00:28:44.800 inside the conversation about the education of their children. I couldn't agree more. And, uh, over here
00:28:51.680 in, uh, we also saw there was that Mahmood case that came down sort of the end of June regarding the
00:28:58.560 LGBTQ themed books and religious freedom concerns, because there was this group of parents in Montgomery
00:29:05.600 County, Pennsylvania, or excuse me, Montgomery County, Maryland. I'm from Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.
00:29:09.680 So that's why I think about it. It's right outside of Philly. And, uh, you're, you're a Pennsylvania
00:29:13.440 person too. Am I right? Am I right? Or am I wrong about that? Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh. There you go.
00:29:18.000 See, I knew it. I can always tell. I can always tell. Um, but this is Montgomery County, Maryland,
00:29:22.400 and this is right outside of DC where even those parents, by the way, this is, this is like the liberal
00:29:27.520 DC bubble. They were objecting because this LGBTQ, uh, information was going to their kids,
00:29:35.520 was going in at such a level. They didn't want it in there. Took it all the way to the Supreme
00:29:38.720 course, by the way, Mahmood. Yeah. As you can imagine, these were not, uh, these were not
00:29:43.440 Christian families. Many of them, by the way, Muslim, uh, so you had Muslim and Christian families
00:29:48.400 saying, we don't want this. We're going to take this all the way up. We're going to fight it.
00:29:51.440 And they got it overturned. And the Supreme court actually did rule that parents' religious freedoms
00:29:57.680 were burdened by the school district's policy of requiring students to engage with those books,
00:30:03.200 issued that preliminary injunction, meaning parents can opt the kids out of those lessons. And this
00:30:10.240 was a six to three decision. There's going to be obviously other cases involving this, but huge,
00:30:15.760 huge win for not just parental rights, but also for religious freedoms and the intersection of those
00:30:22.880 with the public education space. Yeah. I mean, I, I wish I could see it as,
00:30:28.160 as big a win as many are trying to categorize it. In fact, what it says is that they have the right
00:30:34.000 to opt their children out, but that that pedagogy, that, uh, gay and transgender pedagogy will in fact
00:30:40.800 be taught in the schools, which then codifies it as something that is valuable, even though it's rife
00:30:47.280 with lies. Uh, and so even though these parents can opt their children out, then what? In fact,
00:30:52.960 I wrote an op-ed about this. Then what? So those children then become ostracized. They don't have
00:30:58.480 the information that the other children has, have whatever kind of information about gay sex or
00:31:04.640 whatever you want to call it. Right? And so those children then are integrated back into the classroom.
00:31:09.680 And what? Are we going to allow the children who saw the material to then demonstrate the material
00:31:14.800 for the children who were opted out? I mean, for the parents who send their children to this school
00:31:20.560 for education, to be forced to opt out of something that is so not educational is a travesty. And I
00:31:28.720 find it very sad. We ought to get back to teaching truth in our schools. And, um, that includes traditional
00:31:34.960 values. I'm sorry to say, uh, because those are time, time tested. Well, no, I think that's a great
00:31:42.640 point. And you're right. Uh, this, this obviously isn't something that's going to be solved just by
00:31:47.840 the parents continuing to be involved. So, and this is, well, you know, I've had you on about this as
00:31:51.680 well. So it's kind of a layup question, but so let's say you are a parent out there and you're very
00:31:56.800 concerned about your kids being involved with this. Also, you're just concerned with society in general
00:32:01.760 and how we're raising the next generation. What options are there for you to take proactive steps
00:32:08.720 so that your kid isn't, you know, they're not even entering into this cycle?
00:32:12.800 Well, of course, if you don't want them to enter into the cycle, then you don't enroll them in
00:32:18.080 school. Of course, I'm a home educator. So I advocate for children to be home with their parents.
00:32:23.520 And by the way, home is a generalized term. I don't mean the children should stay inside the
00:32:27.920 house at all times with their parents. That's not how that works. Um, uh, as a home educator,
00:32:33.280 what I've discovered is that education is a lot more organic than we are led to believe
00:32:38.160 by the people who make money, uh, running our schools, right? So we have been taught
00:32:42.560 that school is education where, um, actually that's not the case. Education happens a lot
00:32:47.600 more organically. And in fact, school, uh, sometimes is actually an impediment to education.
00:32:52.880 So, uh, the easiest thing is to not enroll your children, but then, you know, barring that get
00:32:58.640 involved, run for school board, be on the school board. I actually have an initiative that I'm trying
00:33:03.440 to put through for, uh, school boards to be made up entirely of parents of children in the,
00:33:09.680 that school and all school boards to be local to every school because it, it, it ought to be
00:33:15.600 more locally managed. It should not be federally managed. And that's what Trump is thankfully
00:33:21.120 trying to do is to disengage the federal management of education. And, um, it should barely be state managed.
00:33:30.000 It's, it's as simple as that. By the way, I do want to play this clip
00:33:33.360 from Loudoun County because we really do have to remember how bad the, these things got. This was
00:33:40.640 2021. So this was not even that long ago.
00:33:43.360 Let's play that.
00:33:43.840 ...is wrong, too. You are how you are. You cannot change that.
00:33:55.760 What?
00:33:56.800 ...is wrong?
00:33:58.960 The Speaker is in that tracksung of your bike.
00:34:03.700 He's at school.
00:34:07.540 Come shit, you won't miss out.
00:34:11.800 I'm going to break.
00:34:14.480 We don't miss out on the show.
00:34:15.740 I am baseball.
00:34:18.840 I am double.
00:34:19.420 Five rings.
00:34:20.420 I am double.
00:34:20.840 See the next day.
00:34:22.420 Hey, this is what happened.
00:34:25.060 Good job.
00:34:27.020 So, so there you go. I mean, that's just four years ago. And you know, Sam,
00:34:56.300 let's look at it from, from that perspective as well. This is how bad it's gotten because we've
00:35:00.880 completely abrogated in this country, here, parental rights to the rights of the government
00:35:06.320 in so many of these situations. And there you go, where this was a member, and for folks that
00:35:10.860 remember the, the story, Loudoun County, Virginia, this was a man whose daughter was sexually assaulted
00:35:17.880 in her high school bathroom by a transgender student who had been passed from another school
00:35:24.080 where apparently he had had another incident and he was trying to speak. The school board told him
00:35:30.000 not to, and then he was forcefully arrested. Right. So this, I mean, this has been going on
00:35:36.600 longer than we care to consider, frankly, but moving forward, let's not just let bygones be
00:35:42.700 bygones. The parents that Parents Demanding Justice Alliance represents are people just like you and
00:35:49.480 me, parents of school children who have been injured by their government. That is the thing
00:35:54.980 that we have to start with. And turning, turning that around is, to me, the most important thing.
00:36:00.940 As a, as a home education advocate, I know that the parental input is the most important thing in a
00:36:07.000 child's education, in a child's upbringing. And the first step to turning this around to uplifting
00:36:11.820 parents is to acknowledge that the government mistreated their parents and to lift them back up again
00:36:17.860 and encourage parenting and families. And let's get back to the, the, the America that we used to
00:36:24.200 have, that really the, the family was the foundation of our society. That's what we need to return to.
00:36:29.780 And the best way, and by the way, that is the best case for, for the children as well. So if we just
00:36:36.740 take that on its face, it's, it's an easy layup for the president to take care of this. And it's a great
00:36:43.000 start to making amends and going forward, uh, in strength.
00:36:49.380 How, how do you view, um, the Department of Education's moves when it comes to this under a
00:36:54.040 linoleic ban?
00:36:56.240 You know, you, you broke up a little bit. The, the Department of Education's views on what?
00:37:01.560 Oh, no. How do, how do you view the moves that they have been making?
00:37:05.380 Oh, just in the couple months.
00:37:06.480 Just the moves so far? Well, yeah. I mean, they're very positive. Certainly getting rid of some of the,
00:37:10.900 the Department employees. And I'm sure these people are very qualified and won't have any
00:37:15.460 trouble finding work elsewhere. But honestly, the Department of Education really doesn't have
00:37:20.340 anything to do with the specific education of children. And if it did, the, the entire
00:37:25.620 department should be fired immediately because we dropped to 40th among 40. So, uh, this is a good
00:37:31.220 start and they have a long way to go, but they are making progress. Um, the funding is not drying up.
00:37:37.780 The funding is simply being sourced to other avenues where it's already taking place. So,
00:37:43.700 uh, really we're just sort of cutting off some of the chaff and there's a lot more to go.
00:37:50.740 I think there is a lot more to go. And I, I do agree with President Trump that when he says though,
00:37:55.460 that he hopes that Linda McMahon will be the last secretary of education and wouldn't that be
00:38:01.220 something, but you know, we're, here we are looking at a situation where this, this isn't some
00:38:05.380 old longstanding tradition. It's not like the, you know, department of state or something,
00:38:10.260 or the department of defense, AKA the department of war, the department of education has only been
00:38:15.140 around since the Carter administration. And this idea that, uh, you know, it's, it's some longstanding
00:38:20.100 traditional form of, and it's gone downhill. It's completely gone downhill. And, and it was under
00:38:26.740 Obama that they put all of the student loans under there. That's where the student loan crisis came
00:38:31.780 from, which is something, by the way, I, I am, uh, I am sympathetic to, because I think a lot of
00:38:37.380 these students, what happened with them was they got absolutely taken advantage of and parents,
00:38:42.660 this is more at the college level, but parents didn't understand exactly how bad it was going
00:38:47.940 in for those kids. So Sam Sorbo, we're gonna, we've got a quick break coming up. When we come back,
00:38:53.780 I believe we'll be joined by a very special guest debuting here on human events daily. Stay tuned,
00:38:58.900 real America's voice. Don't earn that diet.
00:39:12.180 Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.
00:39:17.540 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:39:21.620 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you. Amen.
00:39:29.380 All right, Jack Posobiec. Here we are back. Human events daily live in Washington, D.C.
00:39:36.820 And I told you that we were coming back with a bit of a special guest. And this is a treat. You know,
00:39:44.020 uh, we, we, we, we, we love doing the family stuff here on the show. You guys see, uh, I think I bring
00:39:50.020 on like every single member of my family on human events, but I don't always bring on the family members
00:39:55.700 of my guests until now, because folks, we've got Sam Sorbo and Brayden Sorbo, who is out with a new
00:40:04.900 book called Embrace Masculinity. What's up, Sam? What's up, Brayden?
00:40:11.300 It's good to be here together. You know, we, we live in West Palm and so it's easy to come in at the
00:40:15.300 same time, which always makes it easy. I'm basically her chauffeur at this point.
00:40:20.660 Now, now which one manages which? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Who's the manager? Is this
00:40:24.740 like a Taylor Swift kind of situation? If only what? I'm the manager. I'm the monitor. There we go.
00:40:32.900 Got it. Got it. Right. So you guys are in, you guys are in our palatial,
00:40:36.660 Rob Sig's palatial West Palm studio and I'm schlepping it up here in D.C. I got it.
00:40:41.700 I just flew back from D.C. I think humidity is just about as bad here now.
00:40:45.220 Yeah. I actually thought you were going to be in D.C. when they, uh, when they, when they
00:40:49.060 mentioned earlier, but you know, this, this, this is great. So Brayden, we haven't aired it yet.
00:40:54.660 It's going to come out later, but you and I did a long form interview all about your book
00:41:03.060 that is going to drop, I believe later tonight on the human events, daily podcast side and our social
00:41:09.140 media side where we go way down and deep into all of this embrace masculinity. But, but before I ask
00:41:16.660 you about that, Sam, I got to ask you, have you read the book yet? And what do you think about what
00:41:22.820 Brayden says? Well, of course I've read the book and I taught him everything that he knows. So
00:41:28.660 my mom is my beta reader for all my stuff. She's the beta reader for every single book,
00:41:36.020 everything I've done. Yeah. And I'm proud of him. It is his second book. And, uh, I just, uh,
00:41:41.540 he's done such a great job and he's become such a fine, upstanding young man. And honestly,
00:41:46.500 you're putting me on the spot because I'm really not allowed to criticize him in this capacity here.
00:41:51.060 I am her ride home after all. Mom's a little critical about some of the stuff. Wait, wait,
00:41:58.660 is there, are there other parts where you disagree? Oh, now I'm interested. Well, she's, she's very
00:42:04.100 critical, which is one of my favorite traits about her is because at least I know whenever she's saying
00:42:07.780 something that it's completely honest. And so the whole purpose is to make what I'm doing as good as
00:42:12.180 it possibly can be, which is why I think the book has been so well received from everyone who's read it
00:42:17.060 is because of notes like hers.
00:42:21.060 No, that's great. That's great. No, I've, I had some good ones. You know, when I, when I did, uh,
00:42:25.140 when my mom read over my stuff, she's, it doesn't make any sense. Fix this paper. She just, you know,
00:42:30.180 like redlining different stuff and fix this up. But so walk us through what, what's the core of the
00:42:34.820 book? What's the theme? Uh, why put this book out right now? Well, the core of the book is to uplift
00:42:42.260 specifically men, but, but everyone living in the West today, struggling with the decline of morality that we
00:42:48.420 see in our society. And so I really wanted something that could serve as a guide, as a
00:42:52.900 handbook, as a tool for young people specifically from the perspective of another young person. We
00:42:58.020 have wonderful people in the conservative movement and in the Christian sphere that are doing great
00:43:01.940 things, but we don't have very many Gen Z people like myself. And so I felt the calling, the need to
00:43:08.340 kind of step up and try to take that mantle to be that voice for the young people, which is the entire
00:43:13.060 premise behind the book. It's, it's a message of being able to relate and to, to say to these people,
00:43:18.500 look, I get what you're going through. I've been there. Here's how we can climb out of it together
00:43:22.420 to save this country. Also, it's pointing for, uh, for young women to, uh, understand what masculinity
00:43:29.140 is and why they should be pursuing a masculine male instead of a, what I like to call a lie down guy,
00:43:35.940 instead of a standup guy, uh, because they're being led astray. A lot of women today,
00:43:41.060 young women who are in school are being taught a pack of lies. And, uh, and it's very sad to me
00:43:46.580 because they are squandering, uh, some of their most valuable time, uh, on, on not great guys on
00:43:54.500 young men who are not standup guys. And so that's also what this book is about. It's, it's a, it's a,
00:44:00.900 it's a map, a checklist. No, I, I think that's great. You know, I, uh, uh, look, when I was in my
00:44:10.100 twenties, you know, I was, uh, I was going off, I was definitely, I was doing the military. I was
00:44:13.940 trying to travel. I was trying to do all sorts of different things. I was definitely not thinking
00:44:17.700 about ways that I could be a better man. I was just sort of going out and trying to enjoy life
00:44:23.220 and do it, do everything that I possibly could and go, uh, you know, try and sample everything
00:44:28.100 the world had to offer. But it's really something where I think I see this a lot more now with Gen Z
00:44:33.540 that, uh, there's a general sense. And I would just have a minute left and people can get more
00:44:38.500 into the podcast when it comes out later tonight to make sure you're subscribed human events daily.
00:44:42.900 But there's this general sense that something's gone wrong with the world externally. And the
00:44:47.540 problem isn't that external issue that that's actually a symptom of the internal problems that
00:44:53.460 we're all facing. Does that make sense? Well, Brayden, Brayden had a career as a public speaker
00:44:58.980 before he even started this. And one of the phrases that he used to say, do you want to quote it?
00:45:03.620 Hard times make soft men. Oh, it is the, yes, it is the weak men create hard times. Hard times
00:45:09.380 create strong men. Strong men create good times and good times create weak men. And we are right now at
00:45:13.620 the pinnacle of the weak men who are creating the hard times. And so I like to say that, unfortunately,
00:45:18.340 if we don't turn this ship around, then America, as we knew it, the American dream, which I was sold
00:45:22.900 growing up as a kid will no longer exist. And so we have to take this fight. We have to pick up
00:45:28.180 the reins to save that American dream for the next generation, because I may not have
00:45:32.820 all of the benefits that the previous generations were given, were gifted,
00:45:36.900 but I can certainly try to bring them back for the following generations.
00:45:42.500 It's as simple as that. Tell people, again, the name of the book and where they can go get it.
00:45:48.020 Embrace masculinity, lifting men up in a world that pushes them down. They can go to sorbostudios.com
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00:46:08.500 Demanding Justice Alliance. Thank you.
00:46:11.380 Closo in the Sorbos. You got to love it. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission,
00:46:15.380 and thank you to all the details, until things like that I won't take theirs anymore and leave a dash of work.
00:46:20.820 you