Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 14, 2026


ICE Officer Suffered Internal Bleeding When The Car Hit, Partner Now Under DOJ Investigation


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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth-generation warfare.
00:00:39.120 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:45.820 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:48.900 Christ is king!
00:00:50.460 President Trump says he's canceling all meetings with Iranian officials until the killing of protesters stops.
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00:01:17.640 Temporary means temporary.
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00:01:26.100 This is, in essence, a federal invasion of the Twin Cities and Minnesota, and it must stop.
00:01:32.120 Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison sued the Trump administration,
00:01:36.760 claiming that its deployment of federal agents and officers illegally oversteps the state's law enforcement authority,
00:01:43.400 quote, endangering the public safety, health and welfare of all Minnesotans, and provoking protest in the process.
00:01:50.700 What was Governor Tim Walz doing to keep these officers safe and to bring order to the city
00:01:55.660 of Minneapolis? The answer was absolutely nothing. They described being left for dead
00:02:01.240 by the person who wants to be the vice president of the United States.
00:02:04.720 You can use the term insurgency. You can use the term insurrection. You can use the term
00:02:11.040 domestic terrorism. Mayor Jacob Fry, Governor Tim Walz, Attorney General Keith Ellison have
00:02:18.240 deliberately willfully and purposefully incited this violent insurrection this violent insurgency
00:02:26.800 against immigration and customs enforcement against border patrol one of these people from
00:02:31.760 countries all over the world not just south america they're coming in from all over the world
00:02:37.680 david all over the world and crime rates are down all over the world because of it but let me just
00:02:42.880 one of those david one of those people going to be prosecuted one of the people that burned down
00:02:47.440 Minneapolis is going to be prosecuted. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's
00:02:53.600 edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live on Real America's Voice. Folks, the breaking news
00:03:00.460 out of Minneapolis is tremendous. Today is January 14th, 2026. Anno Domini. What do we have? It's
00:03:07.740 very clear. The ICE officer suffered internal bleeding, internal injuries when he was sideswiped
00:03:17.000 by the car, driven by a deranged anti-ICE agitator up there in Minneapolis just a week ago.
00:03:24.700 This is why so many times when we see these things, we say, wait to get all of the information.
00:03:32.400 Jonathan Ross is his name, the ICE officer, Iraq war veteran, combat veteran, someone who joined
00:03:40.120 up, deployed through the National Guard, came back, joined Border Patrol, then later joined ICE,
00:03:47.240 was been working for DHS for 19 years. And that is why when you look at his GoFundMe and his
00:03:53.740 Give, Send, Go, he's raised, I believe it's, I checked it last night, it was just under $900,000.
00:03:59.240 He's on his way, well on his way now to breaking $1 million. And he's going to have real medical
00:04:07.840 bills on top of it now, internal bleeding. And the question is, of course, if he's able to
00:04:13.260 recover from these injuries the second time he's been injured on the job due to a car ramming
00:04:18.920 attack. And we had the ICE director on here yesterday telling us that the car rammings
00:04:22.860 have been up a thousand fold since this took place, since all this took place.
00:04:28.980 It's very simple. We are winning. They are losing. They're losing the narrative. They're losing the
00:04:35.640 narrative left and right, because America knows if, and the left knows this, look, the left knows
00:04:40.800 this. This is what's going on right now. The left is throwing everything they can at these situations
00:04:47.440 because we've swung the narrative all the way back. Now we pivoted the narrative all the way
00:04:52.760 back from ice agent, murderers, protester to anti ice agitator attempted to kill an ice officer
00:05:02.060 because that's what she did. And what did I tell you last week? I said, stop using the left's
00:05:07.160 frame on this. Stop. You must state the truth when you speak. Don't enter their frame ever.
00:05:15.420 Don't ever give up the fact of what happened that predicated all of these issues. Every single one
00:05:22.600 of them that took place. No. The officer was out there conducting operations, detention operations,
00:05:30.760 and addiction operations.
00:05:32.560 He's out there doing his job.
00:05:34.560 He's doing his job.
00:05:36.540 And these agitators came up.
00:05:38.740 And they interfered with those operations.
00:05:42.540 And then they crossed the line.
00:05:44.960 Drive, baby, drive, remember?
00:05:46.780 And that got to the point
00:05:47.980 where, unfortunately,
00:05:50.920 this driver attempted to ram the individual 0.98
00:05:55.620 with her vehicle.
00:05:57.340 Did ram him, by the way.
00:05:58.480 Not just attempted.
00:05:59.060 Did ram him.
00:06:00.760 and he suffered internal bleeding. This isn't a game. It's not a LARP. It's not an augmented
00:06:06.200 reality game and ARG or any of that stuff. No, it's not any of that. And so what have we learned?
00:06:12.240 What we've learned now is that the left realizes that if we can go through this crucible,
00:06:20.280 if we can go through this fight right now of getting the worst out, they're going to throw
00:06:24.980 everything they can. All the TikTok pages are running. Oh, what about this? And oh, what about
00:06:29.400 this? And oh, what about this? And Joe Rogan's up there crying. Oh, I can't believe they had to
00:06:34.040 use an officer to arrest somebody. I don't know why they're doing it. Joe Rogan's crying,
00:06:39.080 crying, crying all over Spotify. If we do this once, we'll never have to do it again.
00:06:46.360 If we do a thorough job, if we do a serious job, but only if we see the job through to the end.
00:06:53.340 And the left realizes this. This is the end of the line for the leftist experiment at mass migration and illegal immigration into our country to change our demographics, to change our voting, to change our economics.
00:07:07.420 We're done with it. We're going to have a home again, boys. We're going to have a home again.
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00:09:23.480 So huge news that broke just yesterday as we were finishing the show.
00:09:30.640 I think it started kind of bubbling up as the show was on.
00:09:33.220 I didn't realize it.
00:09:33.900 finished the show here. And all of a sudden I go to my phone and I'm getting blown up by
00:09:38.620 journalists, by reporters, the whole mainstream media, like Posobiec, what did you do? Posobiec,
00:09:44.160 who are you talking to? I said, what is all this? Like, what did I do this time? You know,
00:09:47.600 we're obviously dealing with everything with Scott Adams yesterday. And they were all asking me,
00:09:54.780 did I talk to someone in the Department of Justice about the wife, we should say partner,
00:10:02.160 of the anti-ice agitator in Minneapolis.
00:10:06.880 Like, no, I didn't talk to her about this at all.
00:10:09.100 What are you talking about?
00:10:10.140 I said, I went on air and talked about it,
00:10:11.740 went on war room and talked about it.
00:10:13.080 I didn't, you know, I didn't talk to anyone in the DOJ about that. 0.96
00:10:17.440 That's like just silly.
00:10:18.600 Why would you say I did that? 0.50
00:10:20.040 And then they said, well, did you talk to any lawyers about it?
00:10:22.780 I said, like, yeah, like some lawyers I know.
00:10:25.220 And I was like, why are you asking me this?
00:10:27.620 Can you please explain why you're asking me this?
00:10:29.180 And they said, well, because apparently—
00:10:32.160 and this is the breaking news, there is now a criminal investigation into Becca Good,
00:10:39.560 who, by the way, is the false wife of Renee Good, because Julie Kelly has been out there
00:10:46.540 scrubbing all of the records. They never got legally married, at least in any of the states
00:10:51.620 that she's checked, and she's checked them all. What they had was a name change. So their names
00:10:57.760 would, their last names would be the same, but not an actual marriage. She is now under criminal 0.94
00:11:03.820 investigation for her actions that day, as well as her ties to these anti-ICE groups,
00:11:09.720 these Antifa groups that she's been working with. Well, one of the lawyers that I discussed all of
00:11:13.700 this with is Will Chamberlain of the Article 3 Project, and he joins us now. Will, how's it going?
00:11:18.160 Always good to be with you, Jack. So yeah, I remember, you know, looking at all of this
00:11:23.220 the other day, and I just called you when I was actually in Minneapolis still. And I said,
00:11:28.500 my gosh, you know, everyone's talking about all this thing, but these are crimes. They're
00:11:33.160 committing crimes online. It doesn't matter, quote unquote, what side you're on. It matters
00:11:38.500 what the law is. So, Will, does it surprise you that she could face, that she potentially or
00:11:44.720 apparently is facing legal liability here? No, not at all. I mean, the really interesting thing
00:11:51.360 is that, you know, from the get-go, we knew that this was a good shoot. All you needed for that
00:11:56.000 was the very first videos that came out that showed that Renee Good's car was pointed directly
00:12:03.100 at the ICE officer when she hit the accelerator. That's all you needed. And you didn't really need
00:12:08.980 anything else. And Will, you were not to, you're not going to say it, so I will. You defended that
00:12:15.080 legal analysis quite handily on Piers Morgan yesterday. Yes. Yeah. I thought I did reasonably
00:12:20.160 well in the face of some some very bizarre arguments from people I didn't know and you
00:12:24.420 didn't even have the information that came out today that in fact the officer suffered internal
00:12:29.220 bleeding when the car hit him yeah it's weird how you know getting hit by a car might really hurt
00:12:34.740 uh you know it's only like two tons of metal or something these people are I remember listening
00:12:38.960 to Tim Miller on this you know like pretending like oh he was never in danger what's the big 0.97
00:12:43.760 deal she could have just gotten out of the way like a complete idiot uh barely touched him he's 1.00
00:12:49.140 Like he's just got a Spider-Man himself, like throw the webs off and just being run over by a car. 1.00
00:12:55.460 You're weak.
00:12:56.460 Yeah, maybe because he got hit by a car six months ago and sustained serious injuries to both of his arms where, I mean, you've got very serious arteries and veins there where he needed a lot of hospital hospitalization for it.
00:13:10.720 And so, yes, obviously, he's doesn't want to be hit by a car because it's four thousand pounds of metal with a combustion engine.
00:13:19.020 I believe that. Yeah. Honda Pilot. Oh, not very green combustion engine there, by the way.
00:13:23.980 Yeah. Well, you know, I don't begrudge, you know, people for having a lot of pilots.
00:13:28.100 I begrudge them driving it. Ice officers. Yeah. 1.00
00:13:31.920 So this is I mean, it's not actually that surprising.
00:13:34.900 I mean, once you saw the video that this officer took with his cell phone, you saw that clearly the partner of the driver, this this woman, Becca Good, committed a number of crimes just on on tape.
00:13:48.860 She she revealed the existence of a conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement in that video when she talked about how she was going to be there all day.
00:13:55.540 um and then she obstructed federal law enforcement in that she because she intimidated 1.00
00:14:02.720 through force or the threat of force the officer that's also a federal felony then
00:14:07.820 she urged her uh partner to flee arrest another felony and then also urged her partner but to
00:14:15.000 flee by driving which is urging her partner to commit an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon
00:14:18.960 against a law enforcement officer the most serious felony of the bunch so you know in one video of
00:14:23.740 the minute, you've got, you know, evidence for four distinct federal crimes. And it was sort of
00:14:29.860 obvious that this woman should be charged, that she is one of the primary reasons that this entire
00:14:34.480 thing happened and that Renee Good took this foolish course of action, threatened the life
00:14:39.180 of an ICE officer and passed away. So she needs to be held accountable for her crimes. That was 1.00
00:14:44.920 obvious back then. Back on, you know, five days ago, I tweeted, quote, it is extremely important
00:14:50.400 the DOJ prosecute all of Renee Good's co-conspirators. Everyone needs to understand
00:14:54.600 that the only crimes committed were those by Good, her wife, at the time I thought it was her wife,
00:14:58.500 her partner, and all those who aid and abetted their obstruction of law enforcement. Because
00:15:02.760 that's the real story here. I mean, I think that law can serve a teaching function as well. There's
00:15:09.140 a teaching function that needs to happen here, whereby we and the Trump administration teaches
00:15:15.340 the general public and the left that if you drive at law enforcement and you urge others to drive
00:15:21.220 drive at law enforcement and they shoot you law enforcement's not going to get prosecuted but you
00:15:25.880 might and what's what's crazy about all of this is that you get and and we'll have libby evans
00:15:34.080 on here in a second is there's that video now as well of becca good the partner popping up and you
00:15:41.140 know this is like some weird it's it's basically the it's basically the 2026 or i should say the
00:15:47.620 netflix version of thelma and louise because it's like a couple lesbians um who decide to wage war
00:15:53.280 on ice officers and she's sitting there going why did you have to have real bullets because he's a
00:16:00.800 real ice officer because there's real jeopardy that he's in when he's on these situations and
00:16:06.300 because of people like you who keep ramming them with cars that's why yeah yeah what what did you
00:16:15.720 think would happen what did you think would happen um i mean these people are in la la land and also
00:16:22.180 i mean i i'm willing to give this woman a plea deal if she reveals the extent to which people
00:16:27.480 taught her to do these things right like she was part of this ice watch organization and i saw some
00:16:33.180 of the documentation coming out of that organization, suggesting that, you know, there's some moderate
00:16:37.960 amount of risk or low risk from trying to obstruct ICE officials. What are these people doing? I mean,
00:16:43.740 this is all, these people should probably be brought up on racketeering charges because what
00:16:47.560 they're trying to do is they're, they're lying to people in order to get them to violate federal law.
00:16:55.160 And that's, that seems criminal too.
00:16:57.820 it certainly does seem criminal and these the and and that's why by the way the doj
00:17:06.300 is rightly opened up these criminal investigations and look you know the d and people and i see
00:17:13.200 people saying what about the optics jack what about the optics no no no this isn't about optics
00:17:17.080 there's no optics the doj didn't choose to commit these actions they chose to commit these actions
00:17:23.840 These organizations chose to commit these actions.
00:17:26.800 Renee Good and Rebecca Good chose to commit these actions.
00:17:30.820 They are the ones who broke the law and committed these actions in Minneapolis and did so on
00:17:35.660 video.
00:17:36.160 Wasn't the DOJ, wasn't Pam Bondi, wasn't the U.S. Attorney's Office of Minneapolis,
00:17:40.140 wasn't any of these places that decided to commit these actions.
00:17:43.260 No, you are the ones who are responsible for your behavior. 0.99
00:17:47.300 And it's ridiculous.
00:17:48.320 Well, because there's so many people say, oh, they're playing this weird like meta reality game of, you know, we need to be careful about the optics here. 0.80
00:17:56.540 And there was no, no, no, no. We need to apply the law equally.
00:18:01.000 How did we get so far away from this?
00:18:03.660 Correct. I mean, optics aside, obviously, you need to prosecute the actual violations of law that occurred.
00:18:09.780 You know, I've seen some people like, why isn't there an investigation of the officer?
00:18:12.940 Well, because there is no evidence that the officer committed a crime, and the evidence we do have exonerates him.
00:18:18.640 So we don't need to do anything further.
00:18:20.460 However, there is actually clear evidence of serious criminal activity from Becca Good, so it should be investigated.
00:18:27.200 And moreover, I think these people who are worried about optics are thinking about this entirely wrong, even from the perspective of optics.
00:18:34.600 the way you ensure that the optics are good is by making clear where the government's stance is
00:18:40.000 and making and again this teaching function that prosecution can serve uh you know people like
00:18:45.560 joe rogan may look at that and think that the potential liability or piers morgan might look
00:18:49.520 at that and think the potential criminal liability lies with the officer they must be instructed
00:18:54.420 they must be taught that in fact the officer did nothing wrong and the liability sorry go
00:18:59.600 but the liability lies with Ms. Gooden.
00:19:02.260 The reason you have laws is to set those boundaries 0.99
00:19:04.700 in society.
00:19:05.540 Right back, Jack Posobiec, Will Chamberlain, Human Events.
00:19:13.080 Talk about influencers, these are influencers
00:19:16.120 and they're friends of mine.
00:19:18.520 Jack Posobiec, where's Jack?
00:19:21.020 Jack, he's done a great job.
00:19:26.760 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we're back live here,
00:19:29.060 Human Events Daily. We're talking about all of this stuff going on in Minneapolis. The criminal
00:19:33.440 investigation now into the partner of the agitator who rammed her car at a police officer, excuse me,
00:19:41.040 an ICE officer there in Minneapolis. Will, also, one of the things that I asked about with Andrew
00:19:46.360 Branca, talked with you about off air, is this question of the felony murder rule. And, you know,
00:19:53.040 So the basic concept of the felony murder rule is is that if I have this correctly, you know, I'll try to, you know, explain in English for the folks listening, is that when you are committing a crime, if and you are engaged in partners with a crime, that if a death occurs in the commission of that crime during the commission of that crime, that you are liable for that death, even if you didn't directly cause that death.
00:20:20.760 So, for example, if your partner is shot and killed by police, you can be held liable under the felony murder rule.
00:20:29.380 That's sort of the general idea of it.
00:20:31.600 Now, when we dug into Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota, we found that Tim Walz actually defanged the state felony murder rule a couple of years ago in 2023 because most states have this.
00:20:44.100 This is a traditional law.
00:20:45.140 However, because this was a federal officer, that means that the federal felony murder rule would apply.
00:20:54.120 And when you go to the federal statute, it actually says that murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice of forethought.
00:21:01.000 Every murder perpetuated by a person lying in wait or listen to this committed in the perpetration of or attempt to perpetrate any arson, escape, murder, kidnapping, treason, espionage, sabotage,
00:21:14.440 aggravated sexual abuse or sexual abuse, child abuse, burglary, robbery, et cetera,
00:21:19.280 perpetuated as part of a pattern, a lot about children all the way, where the effect of the
00:21:27.000 death of any human being other than him who was killed is murder in the first degree. So
00:21:30.720 escape is actually mentioned as one of the crimes that can trigger felony murder under the federal
00:21:38.480 statute. Now, Will, when she says drive, baby, drive, is that not exactly what she is she is
00:21:45.120 doing? I think, yeah, she's definitely fleeing a lawful arrest. And I'm literally sitting here
00:21:50.020 thinking to myself, OK, does is does the federal escape statute apply to merely fleeing a lawful
00:21:56.520 arrest? Because it obviously applies to people who are like convicted criminals escaping from prison
00:22:00.880 or convicted criminals escaping escaping the custody of a prison warden during a transfer
00:22:06.280 or something. So, but there's an interesting question that I'm trying to figure out the
00:22:09.580 answer to, and maybe I'll have it by the end of the segment of whether or not escape under the
00:22:14.340 federal, you know, the federal escape statute includes, uh, fleeing from an arrest or if that's
00:22:19.860 just, if that's just a different distinct crime, which is just resisting arrest or fleeing arrest.
00:22:26.540 Yeah. And, and, and, and you're right. I'm sure they, they have a separate separations there,
00:22:30.820 but I mean, point being though, is we're pretty close. We're very close to triggering this.
00:22:36.120 isn't she she's right up on the line of it yeah we're not we're we're definitely uh looking at
00:22:42.420 that now now i just asked grok this question grok i mean grok is not flawless on this but
00:22:46.360 grok doesn't think so grok thinks that uh custody under the escape statute requires you to already
00:22:52.020 be in confinement um so you know that that probably means that pre-arrest you're not in
00:22:58.080 custody and so try it's it's a distinct crime and probably not therefore triggering the felony
00:23:01.720 murder statute but i might be wrong right like this is that's just that's just ai coming at you
00:23:07.500 on a specific question i don't know i think regard you know the funny thing is the felony
00:23:12.100 murder thing matters but one of the things that's that's totally missing in this discussion it was
00:23:16.200 totally missing on peers yesterday too and i did it too is there there was this bizarre attempt to
00:23:19.880 create an equivalence between the potential mis-policy mistakes that the officer made which
00:23:25.040 i don't even think he did but just even assuming for the sake of discussion it was a mistake for
00:23:29.120 him to be in front of the car that police policy says he shouldn't and they're saying well well he
00:23:33.980 made mistakes and so did so did she it's like no one of whom might have not adhered to a best
00:23:40.260 policing practice and the other one committed multiple federal felonies there's a difference
00:23:44.860 that really is is actually essential here you know if you're blaming the police officer you're
00:23:50.140 blaming him for not being in the best possible position that he could be and honestly it's kind
00:23:55.200 of a hard thing to blame it for because it's a bizarre situation normally when you pull people
00:23:58.440 over. They aren't parked across the middle of the road, and they aren't obstructing a law
00:24:03.220 enforcement investigation going on a few houses down. And what happened here? You had an aggravated
00:24:09.360 assault with a deadly weapon by this woman. Oh, it's a mistake. A small act of defiance, 0.75
00:24:13.960 as John Stewart would put it. No, no. It's a serious felony. Aggravated assault on a law
00:24:19.520 enforcement officer can land you 20 years in prison. That's no joke. That's not a small act
00:24:23.920 of defiance. And, you know, I think, I mean, obviously it's a tragedy that this woman died,
00:24:29.560 just like it's a tragedy that any woman dies. John Stewart said, yeah, John Stewart. Yeah.
00:24:33.820 Yeah. Right. But I think it would have been another reason it would have been good for
00:24:39.400 this woman to survive is so that she could have been put on trial for the serious crimes she 1.00
00:24:43.200 committed and put in jail. Let me, let me ask you about that because, because the point of a trial 1.00
00:24:47.660 here as well, and, and to be fair, look in, in that area, I think there's a real question of
00:24:53.240 whether or not you could get a jury that does not commit jury nullification like we've seen in
00:24:57.380 Washington, D.C. This is the same area, of course, where Derek Chauvin was charged. And that jury
00:25:03.320 process was a complete joke, as we've talked about for years. And that being said, though,
00:25:07.920 that being said, the fact that there should be a trial, the fact that she should be put on trial,
00:25:13.940 what does what message you said that prosecution sends a message to society as a teaching moment
00:25:19.320 To me, I say to the Trump administration, to everyone else out there, this is the moment you do, pun, perhaps pun intended, you do floor the gas in a legal sense, right?
00:25:34.240 You say we are going to go and actually enforce all of these laws.
00:25:38.620 And you certainly see Stephen Miller saying that to all federal law enforcement.
00:25:42.920 Remember, you have federal immunity while in the conduct of your duties.
00:25:47.220 It is really simple.
00:25:48.300 The administration is backing them fully, and I believe they should prosecute every single person.
00:25:53.980 What is it? 18 U.S.C. 111, where they're just they're in obstruction of justice.
00:25:57.680 It's constant obstruction of justice everywhere. Arrest them all.
00:26:01.140 Yeah, I think it's a very, very important teaching function for two respects.
00:26:04.860 It teaches ICE officers that the administration has their back, that they don't have to be afraid of enforcing federal law as long as their conduct is lawful.
00:26:12.020 And then the second thing is it teaches the general public and it teaches would-be obstructors of justice.
00:26:19.740 Like, you know, the idea here being you act like this and you get yourself killed by failing to comply with police orders.
00:26:29.180 We're not going to prosecute the ICE officer who killed him.
00:26:32.640 We're not even going to investigate him because he didn't do anything wrong.
00:26:34.980 but we will prosecute your co-conspirators even if it's your romantic partner who's more not only
00:26:40.800 does your romantic will your romantic partner have to mourn your death if you pull a stunt like this
00:26:44.320 she'll also have to fend off a federal criminal prosecution and probably go to jail for it
00:26:48.420 and i think that's a really good lesson for everybody to learn will chamberlain where can
00:26:53.260 people get your coordinates at will chamberlain on x and follow the article three project a3paction.com
00:26:59.080 all right check them out folks right back libby emmons with a hot new op-ed about all of this
00:27:04.020 human events daily jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you
00:27:15.860 great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always
00:27:23.320 talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting
00:27:28.280 All right, Jack Sobek back live. Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily. And I'm just going to
00:27:34.700 say it. I'm going to say it again. You people need to stop crying about the government enforcing the
00:27:41.460 laws of the United States of America. We had a giant election about this. 2024, the popular vote.
00:27:49.420 What signs are we holding up? Mass deportations now. What did you think mass deportations meant?
00:27:55.120 vibes, essays. No, no. It meant mass deportations. The American people voted for this. And Donald
00:28:03.960 Trump, when he was on that campaign trail, he talked about mass deportations every single
00:28:09.280 possible chance he was given. Any interview, any stop, even when he was sitting at Waffle House or
00:28:15.440 McDonald's, we're going to have mass deportations. We're going to have mass deportations. He would
00:28:19.600 say it over and over and over. We need to do it. We need to do it. And they asked him, remember
00:28:24.080 when they asked him what the cost was? They said, what's the cost, Mr. President? What's the cost?
00:28:28.040 He said, he said, there's no cost that's too high. There's no cost that's too high because it's about
00:28:33.320 keeping our country. That's why on this issue, above all other issues, we're not pumping the
00:28:40.780 brakes. We're not pausing. We're not going to back down because some podcaster on Spotify is
00:28:45.140 all crying about it up there. No, no, no, no, no, no. The only way out is through. We have the
00:28:51.640 initiative. We are going to press the initiative. We are going to continue. The American people
00:28:57.460 want this and the laws on the books of the United States of America are wanted. And by the way,
00:29:02.780 by the way, if the left wants to go and abolish ICE, then by all means, by all means, introduce
00:29:08.720 the legislation, go to every single state, go to every single state legislature, every single
00:29:13.460 state capital, go to the federal government, introduce your abolish ICE legislation. I dare
00:29:18.540 you. I dare you right now, introduce the legislation and let's see how it goes. Let's
00:29:23.620 play the game. You want to play? Let's play. I'm willing to roll the dice. Are you? Libby Emmons
00:29:28.600 joins us now. Libby, you've got a great op-ed up at humanevents.com all about LARPing and the goods
00:29:39.020 who, by the way, Julie Kelly tells us are not legally married in any true sense. There was
00:29:46.580 actually a name change certificate, but not a marriage certificate that they've been able to
00:29:50.200 find in any of these states. What is LARPing and why did LARPing go wrong so badly wrong in this
00:30:00.980 case? Yeah. So for all the gamers out there, they know what LARPing means. It's live action role
00:30:06.280 playing. It's a word I learned from my son who is, you know, 15. But basically my supposition
00:30:12.700 here is that these two women, along with many other activists, were out there playing at 0.63
00:30:16.960 activism. You have Becca Good, the partner of Renee Good, after the shots were fired, saying
00:30:23.740 to ICE agents, why did you have real bullets? They didn't think that law enforcement was actually
00:30:29.060 out there being law enforcement. They thought law enforcement was out there to, you know,
00:30:33.420 larp around with these activists. And it doesn't make any sense that this is what they should be
00:30:37.760 doing. But they're encouraged to do this by Democrat politicians, by celebrities who go out
00:30:42.700 there wearing their pins and buttons and donate to the ACLU and then pretend that that makes them
00:30:47.520 good people. And there's no reason for Americans to go out into the streets and protest law
00:30:53.620 enforcement that's out there doing their jobs. And furthermore, I think it's really important to note
00:30:58.600 that ICE wouldn't have to be out in the communities going door to door looking for people
00:31:03.320 if the state of Minnesota wasn't LARPing as well, believing that they are not accountable
00:31:07.380 to federal law. The state of Minnesota says that local law enforcement officers cannot comply with
00:31:12.760 federal law enforcement actions. And that's absolutely crazy. If local cops were turning
00:31:17.460 over illegal alien criminals to ICE, then ICE wouldn't be out there in the first place doing
00:31:22.700 this kind of stuff. So Libby, when we talk about LARPing, the scene, I guess, or the video that's
00:31:30.560 come out of this that really strikes to me on this is when Becca Good, the partner of Renee Good,
00:31:36.300 is there on the street. And this has gone viral. It, it was something that came out during the
00:31:41.640 wake of this, but people were so focused on the, the car ramming that they, they kind of missed
00:31:47.060 this. She says, she has, she said, it was my fault. I told her to be here, but then she also
00:31:52.740 added, why did it have to be real bullets? Why did it have to be real bullets? Libby,
00:31:58.540 did they not ever stop to think about the consequences of their actions or are they just
00:32:05.300 so wrapped up in the idea that they're fighting this quote unquote revolutionary charge and filming
00:32:12.980 content for their tick tocks that they never actually stopped to think about what could
00:32:18.980 happen to them because they're breaking laws and in this case committing violence
00:32:24.340 yeah i don't think they didn't think about the consequences and i certainly know when my son was
00:32:28.340 a newborn and there were protests and i was interested in going check it out in new york
00:32:32.260 City. It was when it was Occupy Wall Street was happening. I did not go. And I did not go because
00:32:37.380 I had much greater responsibilities than going to see what the idiots were doing downtown taking 1.00
00:32:42.660 over Zuccotti Park. So I don't think they were thinking about the consequences of their actions. 1.00
00:32:47.640 I don't think they thought there were consequences to their actions. I think they thought, as you said,
00:32:52.100 that they could go out there, shoot some TikToks, you know, get that all set up and still get home
00:32:56.940 in time for the school bus to drop the little boy off, who now, of course, is an orphan, which is
00:33:01.800 terrible. And you have to think about the consequences of these things. They didn't
00:33:05.720 realize perhaps that ICE is actually a law enforcement organization that is going out
00:33:10.780 there doing a job, doing the job that they are mandated and required to do. They thought it was
00:33:16.680 just, you know, some kind of joke. And what's interesting too is I was checking out what Joy
00:33:21.460 Reed had to say about it because I always find her perspective pretty interesting. And what she said
00:33:26.880 is that activists believe that these white women would be protected by their white privilege, 0.98
00:33:32.340 assuming that all ICE agents are just horribly racist and would shoot a black person on sight, 0.96
00:33:37.660 but would not shoot these white women. And so that was, I think, part of their understanding, 0.97
00:33:42.260 too. I think they're so indoctrinated with the bogus anti-racism narrative that they believe
00:33:48.740 that their white skin would protect them from the consequences of interfering directly with
00:33:54.880 law enforcement actions. So they actually believe that that's, that's such an interesting because
00:34:01.300 Libby, you come from this sort of world of the left. You, you, you, they believe, right. Because
00:34:06.500 in, in canonical wokeness, that if you are white, then police will let you do whatever you want, 0.56
00:34:13.880 because that is what they believe. And so as, as that would then follow that their whiteness would
00:34:19.500 be a shield to them from any police activity. But it turns out that it's never been a shield
00:34:24.820 against police activity and the same way that it turns out that skin color has never been the
00:34:30.120 predicate of police behavior. It's always been the behavior of the individual predicates what
00:34:36.940 a policeman's or a policeman or policewoman's behavior is going to be. And to the same point,
00:34:41.240 Libby, have you seen a single one of these videos where, you know, I see it across acts all the time
00:34:48.320 where someone will say, oh my gosh, there's this terrible video. There's a 17 year old in a target.
00:34:52.500 There's a woman who's being drugged from a car. There's this, there's that. And then you watch
00:34:56.200 the video and they're either not complying, they're obstructing, they're blocking the road,
00:35:00.680 they're getting in the face of officers, they're taking swings at officers. They're always doing
00:35:05.300 something and the people just lie about it. Yes, they are always doing something and the people
00:35:10.580 just lie about it. And it's important to know, yes, we do have First Amendment rights. We can
00:35:15.080 go out there and protest our government. We can petition our government for a redress of grievances
00:35:19.740 That is entirely within our right.
00:35:21.800 But if you are out there and you are dallying with these lines and you are told to do something by police officers, just comply with police.
00:35:29.680 You're going to get an arrest.
00:35:30.980 You're going to be a hero among your friends.
00:35:32.820 You know, Mark Ruffalo is going to sing your praises because you got arrested during the righteous cause.
00:35:38.120 Just comply with police.
00:35:39.340 It's the same thing that we all tell our kids.
00:35:41.480 If you get pulled over when you're driving, you know, comply with police.
00:35:45.240 Do what you are told.
00:35:46.460 Don't make sudden movements.
00:35:47.560 Don't give the police any reason to, you know, be concerned that you are a threat to them.
00:35:53.120 And this is something that we all know. Right. I mean, this is a lesson that we could all take from 15 years ago.
00:35:59.620 Remember when everyone was going around about how they had to give their black children the talk. Right.
00:36:04.340 Give these liberal white ladies the talk. Just do what cops say and you're not going to get shot. 1.00
00:36:11.340 You know, and Chris Rock used to have a great bit about this.
00:36:14.800 you know, do you have any priors? You know, are you on drugs? Are you holding drugs? Don't do
00:36:20.500 that. Just don't do that. When you get pulled over, you better check before you do any of these
00:36:26.320 things. And look, I always, I always say as well, you know, people, obviously my kids aren't old
00:36:31.260 enough for this yet, but I always just say, guys, you want to argue, argue in court. All right. You
00:36:35.060 want to argue, argue in court. Are you in paper, make your argument later. Don't do it on the
00:36:39.140 street, literally just don't do the street because it's as simple as that. Because you don't want to
00:36:45.440 be there. They don't want to be there. You're in a bad situation. Obviously, with ICE, you definitely
00:36:50.280 don't want to be there. And you know something else? Really simple. If you're driving around
00:36:54.700 Minneapolis and you don't want to get involved with ICE, then literally just go the other way.
00:36:59.800 I was in Minneapolis for the whole time I was there. I didn't actually randomly run into ICE
00:37:05.460 operations. They're seeking them out. They're following them. You got Will Stantel over on
00:37:11.340 Blue Sky talking about how his 2011 Honda Fit can barely keep up with the ICE convoys. It's
00:37:16.660 ridiculous. It's a joke. And people are doing this on purpose. But here's the thing, folks. 0.98
00:37:22.500 We need to rip the Band-Aid off now. Get it done now. And we'll never have to worry about this
00:37:28.940 crap again. Libby Emmons, where can people go to get your op-ed and follow your work? 0.99
00:37:33.580 Well, I just want to say also that they're coordinating on Signal Chats and telling everyone where to go.
00:37:38.420 You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
00:37:40.880 You can check out all the work that we're doing at humanevents.com.
00:37:44.660 And I would be glad if you go read my op-ed.
00:37:48.340 humanevents.com, check out Libby's op-ed.
00:37:50.420 We're going back to the Supreme Court next here on Human Events.
00:38:02.720 Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.
00:38:10.860 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:38:14.780 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen.
00:38:22.100 All right, Jack Percevic back live, Human Events Daily. Well, folks, we also, as much as the
00:38:28.120 immigration enforcement operations are important as much as we've been focused on them traveling
00:38:33.200 out to Minneapolis, still got field correspondence on the ground out there. We also have to walk and
00:38:38.520 chew gum because there's this incredible ruling coming out soon, it appears, from the Supreme
00:38:45.000 Court, a huge hearing that was held yesterday regarding trans athletes participating in women's
00:38:51.520 sports. We threw together kind of a quick impromptu panel here on all of this. We've got
00:38:56.480 Erica Donalds from the America First Policy Institute. Erica, how are you?
00:39:00.700 So good. Great to be here. Yesterday was an amazing day to see so much support.
00:39:07.180 Well, it certainly was. And we saw everyone out there cheering at the Supreme Court. And then
00:39:11.500 we've also got, of course, Paula Scanlon. She's a senior fellow over with the American Principles
00:39:16.580 Project and also someone who was on the team at the swim team at UPenn with the trans man that
00:39:24.420 really, really started all of this. Paula, what does it feel like to see this case go all the way
00:39:29.580 to the Supreme Court? It feels really good. I think back then we saw that this was the only
00:39:34.500 option. It was going to end up at the Supreme Court. The one thing I will say, and I've been
00:39:37.760 repeating this to everyone, this is so silly to me. The fact that we have Supreme Court justices
00:39:42.980 sitting there listening to arguments on, is a man a man? Is a woman a woman? Should a man be
00:39:48.300 included in the definition of woman? It's just insanity. But again, I'm glad it's being heard, 0.99
00:39:54.020 And I'm looking forward to a favorable decision coming up soon.
00:39:57.740 Well, I think that is going to happen.
00:40:00.140 Erica, over at AFPI, you guys have been putting out so much work regarding this issue.
00:40:06.680 Talk to us about how the trans issue really has become the tentpole issue for the leftist agenda.
00:40:15.040 It has.
00:40:15.980 And unfortunately for them, however, recent polling shows that it has become a 70-30 issue, even amongst Democrats and independents, where people do not want their daughters and the women in their lives to be put in danger with men and boys, not just in their sports and taking their spaces on athletic teams, but in their locker rooms where there are unsafe conditions for those young women.
00:40:42.780 So America First Policy Institute, as you mentioned, as well as many others.
00:40:46.460 And we're talking about gays, lesbians, Republicans, Democrats, all together.
00:40:51.920 You saw it yesterday at the rally coming together against this and asking the Supreme Court to uphold the original intention of Title IX.
00:41:00.940 Paula, talk to me now about so the one of the pieces and I'm reading some of the transcripts that are coming out of the court that they're talking about is,
00:41:10.520 would this disturb laws and policies in other states that require schools to allow trans students
00:41:16.360 to compete on teams that, quote, align with their gender identity? And certainly now now the DOJ is
00:41:23.560 trying to say that, you know, that this wouldn't affect that, that these bans wouldn't necessarily
00:41:28.280 affect those. But Paula, look, you are in Pennsylvania, which which was allowing this
00:41:34.200 and is not one of the states where that is that has a ban on it. Josh Shapiro, the governor there
00:41:39.480 certainly isn't going to be passing that anytime soon talk to me about what it was like to be
00:41:44.040 on a team and forced to share a locker room with a biological male you know it's as horrible as
00:41:52.700 people imagine it is it's not just competitively unfair to be on a team with a man who's obviously
00:41:57.640 much larger I mean this was a six foot four tall individual that we're talking about but the locker
00:42:02.560 room was something a lot of people didn't consider even my own parents I don't think properly
00:42:06.300 understood the fact that this guy was undressing in front of us, fully intact male, had done
00:42:11.280 nothing to become a woman at all, undressing in front of us, not once or twice, but 18 times per
00:42:17.260 week, we were fully undressing in front of this man. And we were told that if we objected to it
00:42:21.120 or had any problems with it, that we were the problem. And they told us to go seek psychological
00:42:25.580 services. I mean, that's what girls across the country are being forced when this is going on. 1.00
00:42:30.140 And that's why the Supreme Court case is so important, not just for athletes and competitive
00:42:33.800 of fairness, but also for the safety and privacy of young girls in this whole country. And that's
00:42:38.720 really what is riding on this case. And that's, and that's, so that's would be my response to
00:42:43.980 the blue state argument. And, and Erica, to bring you back in here, wasn't that the entire point of
00:42:49.160 title nine to begin with this basic idea that, that women should have their rights protected? 0.93
00:42:55.760 Yes, it is common sense that women need their own sports categories in order to compete at all, 0.86
00:43:01.900 Because taken to the extreme, allowing young men to compete on the women's team will eventually eliminate women from competition, completely taking away their scholarships, their opportunities, their trophies, as has already happened. 0.93
00:43:16.740 It's absolutely unfair.
00:43:18.240 It's the reason why women fought so hard for Title IX to ensure opportunities for our young women.
00:43:23.300 As a former only high school athlete, Paula, obviously an incredible college athlete, and I just commend her for her bravery, her courage to stand up to this mob.
00:43:33.540 I know this is what motivates women.
00:43:35.520 It gives them confidence.
00:43:37.100 We show that actually young athletes, young women athletes become CEOs, become leaders in business, and taking that away from them is absolutely not the intention of the law.
00:43:47.780 No, it's certainly not.
00:43:49.500 Paula, switching back to you here, when you look at these arguments, and I know that you've been looking at the case, it does look like the Supreme Court is going to come down here.
00:44:00.540 Amy Coney Barrett, Clarence Thomas getting in there.
00:44:04.720 Do you think that those people supporting the trans students, did they even make their case?
00:44:12.540 you know watching the arguments yesterday i felt like i felt genuinely embarrassed i mean there's
00:44:20.200 no other way to explain what's going on here they even said though that they aren't prepared
00:44:25.420 to define sex if we can't define sex then how are we sex discriminated should we just have an open
00:44:31.160 category why do we even have women's sports if nobody knows what a woman is and the other side 0.99
00:44:35.960 was not able to present that in their case and so the bottom line is man is man woman is woman
00:44:40.820 There's a lot of complexities going on in this case they want to bring up, but that's really what this boils down to.
00:44:45.600 And if we agree that men are men and women are women, case closed, shut, women's sports are for women, let's move on.
00:44:51.560 But for some reason, we have to talk in circles and pretend like nobody knows what a woman is.
00:44:57.160 Well, and we really saw this as well, because in so many of the instances, they weren't really talking about athletes.
00:45:03.380 They were actually getting into these biological questions.
00:45:05.820 They were getting into these deep questions.
00:45:07.540 Erica, why is it that the left is so beholden to this issue?
00:45:13.380 Well, they are beholden to the radical side of their party, unfortunately, but they like to turn the conversation into individual circumstances.
00:45:21.360 And we all have compassion for people who are confused about their gender and they feel excluded.
00:45:27.240 But we cannot make laws around one individual's person or a man's feelings or a young boy's feelings.
00:45:34.380 We have to make laws that are fair and equitable for everyone. And frankly, that protect the safety, sanctity and rights of our young women and girls. That's the way the law should go. That's the way I think the Supreme Court will rule on these. It will uphold states' rights to separate the sexes when it comes to athletics. But we need to go even further and ensure a clear definition of Title IX when it comes to biological sex, how someone was born, that is where they should compete.
00:46:02.400 And it makes makes perfect sense to me. It seems like common sense. Paula, I wanted to know if you had thought it was interesting at all that Judge Kavanaugh, some of his comments, giving the fact that with his background, he himself was a coach of a girls basketball team. 0.78
00:46:19.920 you know i think it's so interesting uh when people were trying to bring that stuff up but
00:46:26.700 i will say it doesn't matter who's coaching teams i've had male coaches i've had female coaches
00:46:31.220 women's teams are for women men's teams are for boys it's it's such a silly argument that we're
00:46:37.840 even having this conversation and the entire case hearing yesterday the one thing going through my
00:46:42.320 mind the entire time was i cannot believe supreme court justices again are sitting here listening 0.64
00:46:47.760 to something so silly studying to become lawyers going through clerkships to sit there for a few 0.93
00:46:52.340 hours listening to some whiny person complain about how they don't know what a boy or a girl is 0.94
00:46:56.380 yeah and it's it's just amazing because they'll say well what when what background do you have
00:47:01.660 and he said well he literally was the coach of a girls sports team he's like and he's now on the
00:47:06.640 supreme court it's it's so uh so amazing and and just like us on this panel by the way we've got
00:47:11.260 we've got poso and i'm i'm outnumbered here on my own show i i have to i have to talk to the
00:47:16.380 producers about who booked this panel. I'll check that out next time. Paula Scanlon, where can
00:47:20.440 people go to get access to you and your coordinates? I'm pretty big on X, so make sure to follow me
00:47:26.460 there, Paula Y Scanlon. Keep up with what I'm up to. Of course, Erica Donalds. Yes, at Erica
00:47:32.820 Donalds, Erica with a K and ericadonalds.com. All right, make sure you're following them both
00:47:38.680 to absolute champions for their cause, which is the cause of reality and the cause of common
00:47:44.960 sense. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.