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00:11:14.320The other three were in D.C. and went, quote, on their own initiative.
00:11:17.580So even in the biggest CYA report of all CYA reports, they are coming out and saying, yes, the crowd was, in fact, filled with FBI supporters, FBI, excuse me, FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters, as reported by Rep. Clay Higgins.
00:11:35.580Higgins, and that you had these people going into the Capitol to some extent.
00:11:42.240Rich Barris, the People's Pundit, joins us now.
00:11:44.900Rich, I know the IG report has come out, but walk me through the implications here of the fact that January 6th and the central contention of this,
00:11:53.900made by folks like the great Darren Beattie, the professor, we call him, and something that the media tried to make the entire election about,
00:12:02.120is actually a complete lie, and the IG has just come out and said so.
00:12:07.680Well, let me put this in a little bit of context with what I do.
00:12:11.840In the first half of the recall, I would call it in the first half of the entire cycle of us polling,
00:12:19.440what is essentially the rematch, right?
00:13:20.240And now you can see it clear as day in the exit polls.
00:13:23.740Trump actually won threats to democracy.
00:13:26.720So they lost control of that narrative.
00:13:29.200It then became about the weaponization of the Justice Department and also great skepticism over whether or not this J6 was overblown or even a setup, Jack.
00:14:16.180Absolutely incredible how the IG report comes out confirming everything that President Trump and Trump supporters have said about January 6th.
00:14:26.460And this report comes out one month after the election.
00:14:30.400There's no possible way that this IG report could have come out before the election so that the American people would have had this information on the day they voted.
00:14:40.600No, we had to have that come out after the election.
00:14:44.060And, of course, there's no additional information here as to the pipe bomber, the identity of the pipe bomber, or the fact that Kamala Harris herself was in the DNC that morning.
00:14:56.160She herself never brought this up in any of the – I mean, she didn't give a lot of interviews during the campaign, but she never made a point of contention.
00:15:03.140She never talked about the fact that she herself –
00:15:25.480So I read an article from Jonathan Turley on his own, you know, on his substack or whatever it is.
00:15:30.640And he basically says, you know, that everyone who perpetrated this fraud or was in on this setup, which is basically entrapment, and then the abuse of their, you know, prosecution, you know, prosecutorial authority.
00:15:43.800We should just kind of let them go, Jack, right?
00:15:46.140And anyone who played this charade with the committee, everybody should just forget and, like, let bygones be bygones.
00:15:53.620I mean, fair enough you don't want to escalate the weaponization of the justice system.
00:15:58.480But what do we do with people who use something like this to put – I don't want to say innocent, but certainly they were overcharged.
00:16:08.120You know, people in jail for large periods of their life.
00:16:13.360And what did President Trump – by the way, in the huge article that just came out this morning, I really encourage everyone to go read this, the Time Magazine interview between President Trump and Time Mag, which accompanied his man of the year – we're saying man of the year around here, by the way.
00:16:27.840He's a man of the year award from Time Magazine, and it clearly was the year of Trump.
00:16:31.740There's just – there's no one else you could honestly give this to if you wanted to be accurate, that when he was asked about the Jan Sixers, he said there's going to be a review.
00:16:41.700But what I want to know is how come no BLM or Antifa rioters saw themselves in jail after the events of Portland, after the events of Seattle, where people were murdered.
00:16:52.700He said no one's ever going to jail for these things, and yet you've got Jan Sixers that have been languishing for years over walking through an open door, a door that we found out today may have actually been held open by an undercover FBI asset.
00:17:08.480Jack, I mean that was very obvious to those of us who have been to the Capitol.
00:17:12.940I mean this is not exactly a building a group of protesters could like storm and get through easily.
00:17:18.640I mean there was always something awry there.
00:17:20.620But, you know, when you ask people who always acted so outraged over J6, why – you know, make those comparisons to BLM and others.
00:17:28.780They only said, well, this was the Capitol, right?
00:17:31.240And I guess what it comes down to is your personal property, if you were a victim, if you were a small business owner in Minnesota, Portland, right, any of Seattle, any of these cities,
00:17:40.520and your town was – your city was burned and your business was, you know, broken into, looted, you know, lit aflame, your stuff just – your property is not as important to these people as, you know, their – this is their town.
00:17:58.160This is their slice of America, right?
00:18:00.340It doesn't belong to you, to me, with a taxpayer, the middle America.
00:18:04.060They view it as, like, sacred to them and that's their own little, you know, haven.
00:18:08.760And by, you know, by virtue of that, you know, those are, like, you know, trespassing on that property is a graver sin than burning someone's business down.
00:18:19.220That is their livelihood, Jack, you know?
00:18:21.380And so I've heard people make those comparisons before and I've heard the most outrageous things come out of people's mouths, you know, to argue that you cannot draw that comparison.
00:18:30.500But, of course, that's because they feel that they're privileged and that town is privileged and things that are, you know, crimes or sins committed against that town are graver than the sins that are committed against others.
00:18:44.300And it's – you know, it really is a great, you know, example of how the privileged – believe they're privileged in this country, Jack.
00:18:52.440I know we're coming up on our break, but I just got to throw it out.
00:18:55.780How many J6ers didn't know that they were talking with confidential human sources of the FBI?
00:19:01.760How many people didn't have this at their trial to use in their defense?
00:19:06.740We're going to be going through all this.
00:19:08.080Rich Barris, Human Events Daily continues.
00:19:14.740I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:19:17.140Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C., where not far from where I'm sitting right now, it is found that the FBI held 26 federal informants undercover on January 6th.
00:19:35.560Multiple numbers, three or four of which, went into the Capitol itself.
00:19:41.260This year, we have seen the media stoke animosity to the point of violence, the weaponization of our legal system, and political instability.
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00:20:57.860Rich Barris, the more I think about this, this is an obvious Brady violation, and it's as simple as that, that none of the J6ers who were put on trial had the opportunity to present this report, which is exculpatory, as part of their defense.
00:21:17.900And because none of them had this information about 26 undercover FBI assets, confidential human sources, put to their defense to be able to present to a jury, that is considered a Brady violation.
00:21:34.500And that is something that is completely overturnable on appeal.
00:21:40.140And President Trump has the ability, with his pardon pen, to commute and pardon every single one of them on the basis of this.
00:21:51.340Yeah, and it's also a pattern of behavior with the FBI.
00:21:55.040This happened to us in the Rittenhouse trial.
00:21:56.880I mean, right, how long did they withhold that footage until they absolutely had no choice, which showed different angles, a longer duration of the footage, which obviously was exculpatory.
00:22:22.740It showed everything that you just talked about.
00:22:24.460They had the FBI operator testify under seal.
00:22:27.920And even that testimony was stricken from the record because they wanted to cover up the fact, it is my contention, that they were likely spying on all the riots that year.
00:22:38.000They were sucking up cell phone signals.
00:22:48.680Had to throw down on that, Rich, since you brought it up.
00:22:50.620Yeah, what else would they have been doing?
00:22:51.920And the important point you just made is that they didn't acknowledge or release it until they were forced to.
00:22:59.140And again, you know, with talking about, you know, the fact there were informants and sources, confidential sources, and assets on the ground during January 6th, in and of itself, is something we actually asked about.
00:23:10.980When we polled the difference between America and the District of Columbia, we asked people, you know, how likely is it that, you know, the FBI had people on the ground that we may perhaps instigating, you would find a significant percentage in the rest of the country compared to what would be the potential jury pool in D.C.
00:23:31.500So it's like, not just the FBI, the entire process was rigged against these people, Jack.
00:23:36.520And that research, several lawyers wanted to use for their clients who were J6 defendants, and the judge would not let them.
00:23:57.100They weren't open to the idea that the D.C. jury pool was a lot less skeptical about the potential role the FBI played, which, again, now we know is the truth.
00:24:10.680When we would ask people in D.C., you're talking about single digits, Jack, who would say that this wasn't an insurrection, who would, you know, entertain the concept or the idea that maybe the FBI played some role here in instigation.
00:24:24.360They were almost unanimous compared to even at the worst of times where it was the most favorable narrative for Democrats.
00:24:34.820You know, the country was still roughly split, you know, give or take 55-45, and then that got worse for them over time.
00:24:44.220But the fact that that research existed and people were not allowed to use it in their own defense is a travesty in and of itself.
00:24:51.500Obviously, they were not going to have a credible jury pool.
00:24:56.780And this is something myself, people like Robert Barnes, we've been arguing this for years.
00:25:01.120That entire jurisdiction, Jack, needs to be reformed and or abolished, you know, I mean, or just abolished altogether.
00:25:08.240Because when you're talking about politically charged cases, they are absolutely incapable of giving people a fair trial or on the other side of the spectrum than that.
00:25:17.780And that's, that should not be going on in this country, period.
00:25:22.500Now, now that said, Rich, that actually raises a good question, because I've heard this said before, Julie Kelly's brought it up.
00:25:31.020Would you move that to a jurisdiction like Southern Maryland, Eastern Virginia?
00:25:35.060What would you do with those cases if you got rid of the D.C. circuit?
00:25:39.520Yeah, I mean, they would have to change the venue and move them to another venue, or you could just come up with another system altogether.
00:25:46.940And there have been some proposals that are, you know, out of the box, which is a special jurisdiction dealing with, you know, not just capital, but politically charged related crimes, where it would be more representative of the nation as a whole.
00:26:01.540We're the most technologically advanced country in the world at this point, Jack, you know, it's like, we can't verify a ballot through signature, but we can open our iPhone and we can't come up with an out of the box solution dealing with something like this, where we don't just have one geographic area represent a potential jury poll.
00:26:19.980We know for a fact that it's a hive mind in D.C.
00:26:33.540But the problem is, the reason why I don't actually favor, like, change of jurisdiction, change of venues in immediate, you know, or not immediate, but within, like, similar jurisdictions and locations, because look at Northern Virginia now.
00:26:51.820And we actually have modern cases where we have defendants within Trump world that did not get, you know, a great, a great shot at justice either there.
00:27:01.720So I'm more for the out of the box ideas, Jack.
00:27:08.940And I think that, obviously, there's, you know, there's definitely ways you're going to have to, you know, look at this.
00:27:15.780But, you know, you take a case, like, look at what they're doing to Steve Bannon right now in the city of New York, where they're going after him using a straw donor, a guy who I think donated, like, 14 bucks to the We Build the Wall.
00:27:29.160And suddenly they're going to go after him and try to put him in jail over that guy's complaint versus, by the way, and I'll just say this about Steve's case and We Build the Wall, which is a complete farce, obviously political.
00:27:41.560And I've also never once in my entire five, six years, at least six years, six and a half years since this thing started, had anyone come up to me and say that they wanted their money back.
00:27:55.020The only thing that I've ever heard people say is that they want more of the wall built and they want more illegal aliens deported.
00:28:05.480The thing is obviously political and we need to do something.
00:28:09.180I love the idea of a systematized legal system for these potential trials, because this is really the question.
00:28:17.420And President Trump was asked again and again regarding this.
00:28:20.260And Pam Bondi, is she going to pursue charges?
00:28:22.380They keep talking about it with Kash Patel, et cetera, et cetera.
00:28:25.960So, Rich, no, I think it's a fantastic idea.
00:28:28.780Before I let you go, there is, since we do have the People's Pundit on, I would be remiss if I didn't ask you regarding President Trump's nominees and his judicial nominees,
00:28:37.460as well as Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard on the national security front, Kristi Noem as well to some extent.
00:28:45.460This idea of a threat of primary for the in-cycle senators, Cornyn, Joni Ernst, a few others that are out there, is that really something?
00:28:56.140I mean, people keep saying that that's really what's putting the pressure on them.
00:29:00.740What do you see on that front from a polling perspective?
00:29:04.580Look, there's no doubt that this is the most viable way to get senators to listen to you as the base.
00:29:14.240Sadly, and it's just, you know, I don't go on programs to try to insult people.
00:29:18.180But the fact of the matter is the Republican Senate is going to be one of Trump's biggest obstacles, if not the biggest, because there are two things that senators listen to.
00:29:26.900They're not deliberative. I'm sick of hearing things like the most deliberative body in the world.
00:29:31.340They listen to rent seekers, which are special interest groups, and they listen to public pressure.
00:29:36.600And one has to be greater than the other, and that is how they make their decision.
00:29:40.180If Joni Ernst believes that she will get primaried by the Attorney General of Iowa, who is much more MAGA and would destroy her in a primary, she will change her mind.
00:29:49.420If John Cornyn believes that somebody else is going to rise, this is a man, by the way, was booed off the stage in his own state party, in his own state party's event.
00:30:00.080If he believes that there's a viable challenger, he will change his mind.
00:30:03.560If Tom Tillis believes, I don't know, let's say, Laurie Trump is going to move back to North Carolina, run and primary him and destroy him, because she would.
00:30:16.280And it's sad that this has to be done this way, because Republicans should be celebrating the very deep and very diverse coalition that Donald Trump just won, which pointed them in the direction, you know, Jack, you and I are both a little old enough to remember the 2012 autopsy.
00:30:33.600They got the electorate that they claim they always wanted, and yet they're not showing themselves to be very worthy of it, right?
00:30:51.800That's like the most terrifying thing you could ever hear.
00:30:54.580What it is, Rich, is ultimately this has become the great revelation, because now we're seeing who actually is representing their constituents and who's there just for money and power.