Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - IRAN’S FAILED RETALIATION： NeoCons Foaming At The Mouth For A New War In The Middle East

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.040 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.720 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.

00:00:50.240 For the first time in U.S. military history, the U.S. directly bombed Iranian nuclear facilities.

00:00:56.280 These strikes were a spectacular military success.

00:01:01.880 Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.

00:01:06.860 Going into this attack, President Trump was very focused in his team on what would happen next.

00:01:11.900 And what he was saying, this had to be a one-and-done attack, focused solely on those nuclear sites.

00:01:17.420 He didn't want to get bogged into a long-standing war.

00:01:20.260 If there was a follow-up to be done, it was to be done by the Israelis. 0.91

00:01:23.860 The decision on whether or not this escalates and whether or not the United States gets involved into a deeper conflict in the Middle East is no longer Donald Trump's decision.

00:01:32.520 It is up to the Iranians. 1.00

00:01:33.960 As the president has directed and made clear, this is most certainly not open-ended.

00:01:38.180 We will respond if necessary.

00:01:39.600 The most powerful military in the world is postured and prepared to defend our people.

00:01:43.480 But what the president gave us, as I said, was a focused, powerful, and clear mission on the destruction of Iranian nuclear capabilities. 0.79

00:01:53.220 Oil futures are spiking in reaction to the turmoil in the Middle East.

00:01:57.580 And investors do fear that Iran would disrupt what is global shipping via the Strait of Hormuz.

00:02:03.840 Is the United States now at war with Iran?

00:02:06.540 No, Kristen, we're not at war with Iran.

00:02:08.500 We're at war with Iran's nuclear program. 0.79

00:02:10.840 And what we did is we destroyed the Iranian nuclear program.

00:02:15.320 I think we set that program back substantially.

00:02:17.220 And we did it without endangering the lives of the American pilots.

00:02:24.200 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec here, live, Washington, D.C. here.

00:02:32.200 Today is June 23rd, 2025, Anno Domini.

00:02:36.480 Just moments ago, Iran conducted retaliatory strikes on U.S. air bases, particularly one in Qatar, the Al-Adid air base, which is held there.

00:02:47.620 Now, we're also told, though, by U.S. officials that all missiles were intercepted after being fired from Iran.

00:02:55.640 Guys, we can get a map up of the Persian Gulf so people know what we're talking about.

00:02:59.100 And we want people to be able to understand that this was intercepted.

00:03:05.640 Some of the rockets, if they did fall down, that the damage was minimal.

00:03:11.440 We're told no injuries, no casualties as of this point.

00:03:14.420 And it also seems as though this is the end of the retaliation.

00:03:20.040 And if this is the end of the retaliation, President Trump and also some U.S. officials briefing on background, that it looks as though they're calling it a failed retaliation and thus not requiring an escalation.

00:03:32.000 And if so, this could potentially be an off-ramp being offered by the Iranians saying they don't want to break this thing out into a wider scale war with the United States.

00:03:45.140 However, the neocons, on the other hand, and guys, if you could just put that map up, that the neocons are still, still foaming at the mouth for a full-on war on Iran.

00:03:58.460 A full-on war.

00:04:00.360 Because that's what they want.

00:04:02.640 That's what they wanted all along.

00:04:03.740 You got Jack Keane over there on Fox News saying, oh, he felt emotional looking at all of this Institute for the Study of War.

00:04:09.960 That has studied everything wrong about the Ukraine war from day one.

00:04:16.080 Jack Keane, maybe you could be an intern here at Human Events Daily, and we could check that out.

00:04:21.300 And then you got other neocons, like Mark Levin up there, trying to redefine what MAGA is, trying to redefine.

00:04:26.880 And it's the same old 2003.

00:04:30.180 Mark Levin, who said he would never vote for Donald Trump, comes out and just like in 2003, you're not patriotic if you don't support this war.

00:04:38.640 You're not patriotic.

00:04:39.960 And then he went and even said that perhaps we should give nukes to Ukraine, which is strange because I was told that all of this was about non-proliferation.

00:04:50.600 We don't want to see the proliferation of nukes, so why are you suggesting that we give nukes to a non-nuclear country? 0.69

00:04:56.720 Folks, the neocons are at it again, but Human Events Daily is here to draw the line in the stand.

00:05:03.120 And this retaliatory strike, whatever it was, seems more like a work than anything else.

00:05:08.620 Seems like a little bit of theater.

00:05:09.940 Seems like pay fave.

00:05:11.400 Seems like the Iranians are presenting that off-ramp. 1.00

00:05:14.660 And I think that President Trump is signaling that this will not require a response from the United States.

00:05:21.060 Remember, we told you before, we've already brought our troops and our planes out of there.

00:05:25.860 What America first truly means.

00:05:29.860 Welcome to the second American revolution.

00:05:34.320 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back here, live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C., breaking down all the updates.

00:05:46.640 The Pentagon now putting out statements regarding this attack.

00:05:50.640 And it looks as though, to be said, that it seems that this is the end of it.

00:05:56.380 It seems, though, the retaliation was may or may not have meant to be a little bit of theater, a little bit of pay fave, as they say, in the pro wrestling community.

00:06:07.320 I want to bring on now the D.C. Bureau Chief for Breitbart News, Matt Boyle.

00:06:12.520 Matt, you actually have the DOD report.

00:06:15.180 Can you give that to us?

00:06:16.900 Yeah.

00:06:17.160 So here, I'm going to look down on my phone so I can read the statement for you.

00:06:20.420 So this is from the DOD that they can confirm that Al-Adad Air Base, and I'm probably not pronouncing that right, in Qatar, was attacked today by short and medium range ballistic missiles originating from Iran.

00:06:33.740 At this time, there are no reports of American casualties.

00:06:36.360 We are closely monitoring this situation.

00:06:38.180 We'll provide additional information as it becomes available.

00:06:41.380 Look, I think the big picture here is, is that, first off, let me preface this by saying we only know what we know and we don't know what we don't know.

00:06:48.260 We'll see as things develop here.

00:06:50.900 But the big picture here is, is that I think this is why we elected President Trump.

00:06:55.560 I think he's handled this masterfully since the very beginning.

00:07:00.440 He's shown thoughtful deliberation and consternation as he's made, as he made a very critical decision to send in the B-2 bombers over the weekend to take out the nuclear sites in Iran. 0.65

00:07:15.160 And the other missile strikes that you saw, the Tomahawk missiles from the Navy ships that they used on the other sites.

00:07:26.680 This is a huge moment for the president.

00:07:29.440 It's a legacy-defining moment.

00:07:30.720 And I think he's handled it masterfully.

00:07:32.240 And now we're seeing what appears to be, and again, this is early, so we don't know if there's other things coming or if there's other stuff going on, what appears to be a chance for de-escalation and a shot to do exactly what President Trump set out to do on this, which was, this was a one-and-done thing, right?

00:07:51.380 Like, the U.S. did its part.

00:07:52.620 I think that the speech you saw from President Trump on Saturday night, which was very short, where he was flanked by the Secretaries of State and Defense, as well as the Vice President, when he announced this to the nation and to the world, you know, it was a little bit bellicose, right?

00:08:09.020 Like, so he was up there very aggressive with the Iranians, talking about future strikes as a possibility.

00:08:15.160 And I think a lot of America First folks were a little bit perturbed by that, but I think that the point of that speech was to deter any serious Iranian response, and it seems to have worked, right?

00:08:26.820 Like, so again, I think that the point here is, is that people across the America First movement, and I've been saying this throughout the entire process here, dating back two weeks now since Israel's began striking Iran, is that people have trust in the president.

00:08:44.240 I think that the MAGA America First movement is unified behind President Trump.

00:08:49.020 They want to see, they have a lot of trust in him, and frankly, they have a lot of distrust in our establishment and institutions, et cetera, the intelligence agencies, the Pentagon, et cetera, and rightfully so because of the failures of leaders in both political parties for the last 30 or so years, really dating back to, you know, in the post-Ronald Reagan era.

00:09:11.700 Both Bushes, Clinton, Obama, Biden, you know, all of these presidents have done serious damage to the credibility of our various institutions, our intelligence agencies and our military institutions.

00:09:26.140 But I think President Trump is bringing it back.

00:09:28.860 And I think this is a big part of the reason why, too, you're seeing huge numbers, booms in recruiting, right?

00:09:34.980 Like, I was speaking this weekend to the Navy's, U.S. Navy Secretary's spokeswoman, who's our former Pentagon correspondent from Breitbart, Christina Wong.

00:09:43.700 She was telling us that they've already, three months ahead of schedule, already hit the fiscal year's recruiting goals for the United States Navy.

00:09:50.820 And that's because Americans have confidence in President Trump.

00:09:55.020 And I think that as President Trump navigates this, you know, really powerless situation in the Middle East, I think he's done a masterclass.

00:10:02.660 And we'll see where things go from here.

00:10:04.820 But I do believe that America First leaders have the utmost confidence in President Trump.

00:10:11.660 And I think he's handled it well.

00:10:13.180 And I think that the people, you know, in the neocon globalist establishment that are pushing for more are wrong.

00:10:19.880 And I think that the people in the Democrat side that are pushing for less are wrong.

00:10:24.520 I think President Trump has struck an incredible balance here.

00:10:28.560 And again, how he handles this moving forward, very similar to the Soleimani strike.

00:10:34.200 This is a legacy-defining moment for him as President of the United States.

00:10:39.660 And where we go from here and what happens next, you know, and again, all the proper caveats here.

00:10:46.600 We don't know what we don't know, and we do know what we do know.

00:10:49.460 But things are looking good for President Trump.

00:10:54.140 Matt, I think that's right.

00:10:55.340 And I think that President Trump clearly drew a line around this nuclear program, saying that this was always going to be his main priority when it came to this situation.

00:11:08.080 Now, obviously, there are going to be questions as we go down the line between Israel and Iran and how much longer that air campaign will come down.

00:11:17.460 We talked about here on this program the worry of air attrition and whether or not Israel can keep up the air defense that they've been conducting.

00:11:27.520 Actually, just as we were preparing for the show, I was watching some of the air defense over Kiev because they're getting hit right now.

00:11:33.280 Now, the Russians are still, by the way, rocking Kiev, and they're really advancing along the front lines because a lot of people aren't paying attention to that while everyone's distracted.

00:11:43.720 And, of course, Kiev looking as though its air defense resources are running low as well because this is a finite world.

00:11:50.760 And by the way, this is something that makes conservatives different from liberals.

00:11:54.200 We understand that we live in a world of finite resources.

00:11:57.360 Liberals don't seem to quite grasp that.

00:11:59.320 And so when we look at all of this, the question, of course, for President Trump is, what is the best America first way through the entire thing?

00:12:10.140 And to your point, I think he's played it very well.

00:12:12.520 And I think he understands that for the U.S. to get involved at a higher level, the way you're hearing all these neocons call for is just not something that there's an appetite for.

00:12:21.460 Yeah, no, I think that's right.

00:12:24.080 But, again, a lot depends on events from here, right?

00:12:26.960 And I do think that people have the utmost confidence and trust in President Trump to handle it well.

00:12:33.260 And, again, it's sad that we have to go through this, right?

00:12:36.680 But the reason why we have to have this debate and this discussion openly is because of the failures of people like George Bush and the failures of people like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush.

00:12:48.980 Like all of these loser presidents, right, of both parties really did a number on the credibility of our government.

00:12:55.880 And President Trump is having to dig us out of this mess.

00:12:59.640 But, again, I think that if you compare the way that Bush handled Iraq to the way that Trump is now handling Iran, it's just night and day better.

00:13:09.420 And I think that under Trump here.

00:13:12.480 And I think that the president is going to continue to – look, I always tell people, because I know President Trump really well.

00:13:20.680 I always tell people this, and I've talked to him so many times over the last decade plus, right, like even before he came down the escalator.

00:13:26.840 When he came down the escalator that day, I was standing at the bottom, and then I did the first interview with him up in his office later that day in the 26th floor of Trump Tower.

00:13:35.600 That was a little over a decade ago, a decade and a week ago or something.

00:13:40.820 I always tell people one of his best qualities – and you don't always see this because you don't always see it when the cameras are rolling.

00:13:47.860 He's an excellent listener, right?

00:13:50.080 So he's always soliciting feedback in –

00:13:53.140 I say this all the time.

00:13:54.320 I say that he never gets credit for it.

00:13:56.540 Never gets credit for it.

00:13:57.780 He's an excellent listener, and he's really trying to strike the right balance, and he's very thoughtful and deliberative, right?

00:14:05.160 And I think that as he made this decision going into last week, I think he went back and forth on it, and he was really seriously – he wasn't sure –

00:14:15.560 By the way, it was funny because you saw the reporters there in the White House when he was putting up the flagpoles last week trying to nail him down on, oh, are you going to do it?

00:14:23.960 And when are you going to do it?

00:14:24.840 And he's like, you don't know what I'm going to do.

00:14:27.500 You don't know what I'm going to do.

00:14:28.500 I don't even think he knew what he was going to do.

00:14:30.620 I think he was still soliciting information from different people and different opinions and considering it, and then he made his decision.

00:14:38.480 And I think that the America First movement, which President Trump created and built, stands behind him.

00:14:44.540 And I think that all of these establishment media people that are out there saying that there's division in the MAGA movement and so on, there is no division.

00:14:52.920 I think that people are very unified behind President Trump.

00:14:55.940 They support him as this is going forward, and they know that he's handling it very thoughtfully and carefully, and he's trying to not get us dragged into a long-term war or conflict in the Middle East.

00:15:07.580 Matt, we've got a quick break.

00:15:08.840 Coming up right now, folks, we're talking to Matt Boyle, the Washington Bureau Chief of Breitbart News.

00:15:13.220 We'll be right back.

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00:16:45.480 We're on again with Matt Boyle here.

00:16:48.260 He's the Washington Bureau Chief of Breitbart News.

00:16:51.040 Matt, look, we're in D.C.

00:16:53.800 We're talking about all this.

00:16:55.480 Look, President Trump still has a huge domestic agenda that he's working to push through on Capitol Hill.

00:17:02.540 Do you think all of this flare-up of foreign affairs is going to play into getting votes back on board for the big, beautiful bill,

00:17:12.860 these other agenda items that he's been talking about?

00:17:15.380 Where do you think it stands in terms of all that?

00:17:17.900 Well, yeah, look, I would just say, well, first off, I spoke to the Senate Majority Leader, John Thune, on Saturday.

00:17:24.040 Because back in early May, he had told me that the goal out of the Senate, assuming the House was able to hit its goal of Memorial Day,

00:17:32.460 of getting their bill out of the House, which they did.

00:17:35.220 And as I told the Speaker, Mike Johnson, when I was talking to him after that,

00:17:39.260 they came in under budget and ahead of schedule, right, which was great, out of the House.

00:17:43.760 The Senate Majority Leader was saying that they want to get the bill out of the Senate and to the President by July 4th.

00:17:48.840 And so I asked the Senate Majority Leader if that's still on track.

00:17:52.980 And, you know, July 4th is next weekend, right?

00:17:55.380 It's a week from Friday, right?

00:17:56.900 So we're like, you know, a little over a week and a half away from that.

00:18:01.940 So he said that they are, right?

00:18:03.740 Like, so I believe that, by the way.

00:18:05.220 They're going through what's called the birdbath right now in the U.S. Senate.

00:18:08.340 That's named for Robert Byrd, the former Senate Majority Leader, where they go through the process of determining what can and cannot go through the reconciliation bill process,

00:18:18.200 which is a budget gimmick that allows them to pass stuff on a 51-vote threshold rather than a 60-vote threshold.

00:18:25.140 So they don't have to do the nuclear option, get rid of the filibuster.

00:18:27.980 Filibuster, obviously important, because if the Democrats, you know, if and when they retake the Senate, that they will, you know, ram through all sorts of radical things.

00:18:36.580 So the filibusters are checking a balance there against that.

00:18:39.280 So they're going through that process right now.

00:18:42.540 But I do think that the events that you're seeing in the Middle East, particularly with regard to energy, are probably going to increase the urgency for this, right?

00:18:52.020 Like, because one of the things that's, you saw this this morning from President Trump.

00:18:55.980 He came out and said to the Energy Department, drill, baby, drill, right?

00:19:00.080 Like to Energy Secretary Chris Wright.

00:19:01.480 Now, tomorrow morning here in Washington, D.C., I'm going to interview Secretary Wright at a Breitbart event.

00:19:07.620 We're going to carry video live on Breitbart.com.

00:19:11.000 And I'm sure it will be picked up in other places.

00:19:14.400 But we're going to talk about exactly this.

00:19:16.100 Now, there are things in this big, beautiful bill on energy that are extremely important, like, for instance, mandatory permits given out for auctions where the energy companies will bid to, and this will raise major revenue for the federal government, but it will also get the energy going for offshore drilling in the Gulf of America, as well as onshore drilling throughout the continental U.S., as well as up in Alaska.

00:19:45.000 So we're going to talk all about that with Secretary Wright and the factors that are in this legislation.

00:19:50.520 And the president is exactly right to focus on that, because you're hearing the Iranians talk about possibly trying to close the Strait of Hormuz. 0.95

00:19:57.960 If they close that straight down, there's a lot of energy that goes through that straight.

00:20:04.760 Now, it's not going to completely shut down energy development and trade throughout the world, but it would have a big impact on things.

00:20:14.160 And so the world will have to adjust.

00:20:16.440 The U.S. being energy dominant, right?

00:20:18.560 Like, and President Trump has made a National Energy Dominance Council, right, which is chaired by Secretary Burgum and Secretary Wright.

00:20:27.420 Extremely important here.

00:20:29.540 Absolutely.

00:20:30.260 And just before we run out of time, I want to throw out that oil prices are down right now because it looks as though Iran has ended its retaliation.

00:20:38.160 So we are seeing that price of Brent oil go down just as we're tracking many things here on the program.

00:20:45.460 And that certainly is one of them.

00:20:46.820 Matt, where can people go to get all of your breaking updates and follow everything you're putting out?

00:20:51.320 Right, Bart.com.

00:20:52.400 And I'm on X Twitter at Mboil1 on X.

00:20:55.940 Well, Matt, it's about time you finally got back on X because we need your plugged in voice and everybody needs as much analysis as they can get as we go through these turbulent times.

00:21:08.100 Is everyone enjoying the fourth turning?

00:21:10.960 We told you it would happen and we told you that President Trump was the man to see it through.

00:21:15.680 We'll be right back.

00:21:16.280 Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice.

00:21:17.400 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:21:26.880 Where is Jack?

00:21:29.120 Where is he?

00:21:30.420 Jack, I want to see you.

00:21:34.020 Great job, Jack.

00:21:35.520 Thank you.

00:21:36.280 What a job you do.

00:21:37.720 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:21:39.120 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.

00:21:41.420 But we have guys.

00:21:42.820 And these are the guys who should be getting policemen.

00:21:47.400 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back live human events daily, Washington, D.C.

00:21:52.200 Beautiful flags flying over the White House.

00:21:55.520 You can see that great shot right there, Jefferson Memorial in the background.

00:22:01.000 It is a sweltering day here in the D.C. area, all up and down the East Coast.

00:22:07.520 So if you've got a swimming pool, make sure you take care of that.

00:22:10.220 Also, when you go in the pool, keep in mind, keep an eye on those kids when they go swimming.

00:22:16.040 It's something that I always have to say in summertime, and people don't realize that drowning doesn't look like it does on a TV, you know, on TV or like in a movie with all the screaming and splashing.

00:22:28.840 No, it's actually very quiet, and it's very quick, and it can happen within moments.

00:22:33.520 Also, make sure you check your back seat when you get out, especially if you have small children.

00:22:39.860 Do not leave them in there.

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00:22:43.160 Just don't do it.

00:22:44.400 You're sick of these headlines when you hear people do it.

00:22:47.260 Just don't do it.

00:22:48.180 It's as simple as that.

00:22:49.180 Folks, I want to bring on Joshua Lysak now, the co-author of Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions,

00:22:56.520 and how to crush them to go through a little bit of what we're seeing from the mainstream media right now,

00:23:03.060 and particularly as regards to something that I talked about last week.

00:23:07.820 We'll get into that in one second.

00:23:08.780 Joshua, how are you?

00:23:10.580 Doing pretty dandy.

00:23:11.660 A little bit sweltering here in Ohio, Jack, but coming through okay.

00:23:17.100 Guys, we have Joshua's audio.

00:23:18.680 I'm not hearing it on my end.

00:23:20.020 Let's see if we can get me back here, guys.

00:23:24.720 Let's try that again.

00:23:26.260 Let's try that again.

00:23:28.320 Let's see if we can try that again.

00:23:29.680 Well, folks, what I've been calling this is the regime change upsell,

00:23:33.840 this idea that the mainstream media and the neocons know that President Trump is totally against getting into these forever wars.

00:23:42.700 And, of course, we know, and Kurt Mills tweeted this earlier,

00:23:45.500 that a forever war isn't called a forever war when it starts.

00:23:50.020 A little bit by a little bit by a little bit, and it ratchets up.

00:23:52.880 And if you are a certain age, you remember how these things get started.

00:23:57.840 Well, he's always said that he's against the nuclear program.

00:24:01.660 Okay, got it.

00:24:03.740 Take care of the strikes.

00:24:05.040 Nuclear program gets hit.

00:24:06.600 They're knocked back years or whatever exactly it is.

00:24:08.860 We're waiting to see the battle damage assessment from that.

00:24:11.020 We're waiting to see the military declassify some of this information.

00:24:14.620 But you can see the neocons.

00:24:15.940 And I'll say something right now.

00:24:17.000 It seems like the neocons are upset that U.S. soldiers didn't get killed in these Iranian strikes today because I saw a neocon.

00:24:26.680 I've got all your tweets saved.

00:24:28.380 And I saw them saying, oh, the U.S. has to declare war on Iran right now.

00:24:33.560 U.S. has to declare war on Iran right now.

00:24:35.600 We need regime change.

00:24:36.420 We need regime change.

00:24:37.180 They're acting like they're upset up there that U.S. soldiers didn't get killed or didn't get hurt or that U.S. jets weren't hurt. 0.97

00:24:45.540 It's disgusting and it's sick. 0.84

00:24:47.800 Guys, do we have Joshua up? 0.59

00:24:49.900 Testing, testing.

00:24:51.720 Oh, Joshua, we got you.

00:24:52.700 Great.

00:24:52.840 Perfect.

00:24:53.460 So, Joshua, you're the persuasion expert.

00:24:57.900 Am I seeing this?

00:24:59.080 Am I seeing things?

00:25:00.140 Or is this happening?

00:25:00.940 Are they trying to upsell the president of the United States and all of us on regime change?

00:25:07.180 Oh, yes.

00:25:07.900 They have been doing this, the neoconservative characters, neoliberal characters, for a very long time now.

00:25:13.000 And you and I also collaborated on a little book called Bulletproof, the first and only investigation to the attempted assassination of President Donald J. Trump.

00:25:20.300 And we wrote about the intended escalation by the military industrial complex over the Iranian plots hypothesis that Thomas Matthew Crooks, the Butler, Pennsylvania shooter, was in fact in league with the Iranian intelligence service.

00:25:38.060 And we found that there was simply no evidence of that scenario.

00:25:42.820 It's a little bit plausible, but we point out that the sustained military engagement and defense spending, which benefits the military industrial complex, could very well be behind that narrative for which we found no evidence for.

00:25:57.400 An unspoken by most reason why the neoconservative crowd who call themselves Christians in many cases, an unspoken reason why there's such almost like a desire for war in the reason has to do with bad theology.

00:26:17.360 There is a type of eschatology, which has to do with one's belief in an end times, let's say, called premillennial dispensationalism.

00:26:27.660 That is a lot of syllables right there in that mouthful.

00:26:31.280 But characters like Mike Pence, the former vice president who is praising President Donald J. Trump, we have Mark Levin, we have other characters who are on the right.

00:26:43.720 They're evangelical Christians who ascribe to this idea that, and Ted Cruz spoke about this on the interview with Tucker Carlson,

00:26:51.880 that the modern state of Israel, founded in 1948, is somehow the fulfillment of Old Testament biblical prophecies that are about the Jews' return to their homeland following the Babylonian exile.

00:27:08.100 I don't think that's the case, folks.

00:27:10.080 I don't think that's the case.

00:27:11.300 And so Senator Ted Cruz is giving his, let's say, religious motivation for intervening in the Middle East.

00:27:19.720 And so the fact that the United States is not in a shooting war, is not declaring war on an adversary of the modern state of Israel,

00:27:26.960 is in this set of beliefs, it's somehow going to set the rapture back a number of years, a number of decades.

00:27:34.060 And Jesus ain't going to come back until there is a war in the Middle East and the United States gets wiped out.

00:27:38.600 Which, by the way, is a big part of this predictive framework of the rapture and the end times.

00:27:45.680 Because you, as you know, I grew up in this community.

00:27:47.900 So wait, Joshua, let me run that through, if I can.

00:27:51.060 And folks know, I'm a Roman Catholic, I'm Polish, you pretty much come with one flavor in terms of that.

00:27:55.940 So, you know, we don't have this eschatology at all.

00:27:59.900 So what you're saying is, this is a version of, and let's, I don't want to get into the theology debate of it,

00:28:06.300 but what you're saying is, this is a different version of what Scott, our good friend Scott Adams, and, you know, peace be upon him,

00:28:14.500 that can be a sort of different movie, same movie, different screens.

00:28:19.980 So we're all watching the same movie, and yet other people who look at it, who believe in this,

00:28:25.540 they view all of these as the fulfillment of a, if I understand correctly, a series of prophecies that indicate the return of Christ.

00:28:36.300 And so, well, a lot of people look at this and they say, wait a minute, you know, okay, we don't like nukes, right?

00:28:41.880 We don't like, you don't like religious nutjobs like the theocrats in Iran getting nukes, 0.85

00:28:47.540 we're going to blow them up, or, you know, end the program by other means. 0.98

00:28:51.360 Okay, that's number one.

00:28:52.260 But we also don't like World War III, so we don't want that.

00:28:55.440 And we certainly don't like the idea of the price of gas going up to $6 a gallon at the summertime.

00:29:01.480 But what you're saying is there's even another group that looks at, and this, by the way, you know,

00:29:06.440 if you're someone who has these beliefs, there are, understand there are people who don't, who are also Christians.

00:29:11.840 So what you're saying is, they might actually be rooting this on because of this worldview.

00:29:16.700 Yes, this worldview that I'm laying out, this eschatology of like end times prophecy was popularized first amongst the baby boomer generation in the late 1970s and 80s by a character named Hal Lindsey.

00:29:31.220 The number one bestselling book of the 1980s was called The Late Great Planet Earth, and it was laying out everything I've just said.

00:29:38.500 The 1948 refounding of the state of Israel is literally in the Bible.

00:29:42.360 The modern Jewish state is literally God's chosen people.

00:29:45.780 Israel is the clock is something that Hal Lindsey said.

00:29:48.860 And then tens of millions of Americans grew up, came of age, and then many of them became bureaucrats, politicians, and neocons with this information environment.

00:29:59.500 And part of the set of prophecies is that the biblical lands of Gog and Magog are referring to modern day Russia and Iran.

00:30:09.000 So when evangelical Christians who have this eschatology, this background, when they see these headlines about Russia saying this, Iran saying this, they go, that's literally in the Bible.

00:30:20.580 World War III is going to happen. 0.94

00:30:21.620 They're going to invade Israel. 0.96

00:30:22.820 But wait a second, as Hal Lindsey, let's say John Hagee, T.G. Jakes, and others who put forward this idea, wait a second, Iran and Russia are literally obviously in the Old Testament prophecy, in the book of Daniel and Ezekiel and so on and so forth, Isaiah, right?

00:30:41.520 They would say, the United States of America isn't in here.

00:30:44.420 So the United States of America must have been absolutely wiped out in a nuclear war.

00:30:48.800 So the only way for Jesus to come back is for the United States to no longer exist.

00:30:53.780 And it gets a little bit dark when you realize this, but yet this is what I heard as a child growing up in this particular sect of evangelical Christianity.

00:31:03.100 And while they don't say this, they don't all say this openly, I don't believe we should be following neoconservative evangelicals who believe the decisions they're going to make will necessarily result in the destruction of the United States of America.

00:31:17.220 Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Mike Pence, these are probably not the influencers that we should be taking our counsel from with regard to making peace, not war.

00:31:26.960 And Joshua, when we look at all this, that this is something where you can see, and I'm sure there's a variety of interests, right?

00:31:36.280 I've talked about how I'm sure the Arab monarchies, who are no fans of the Persians, they're looking at those oil fields across Iran, along the Persian Gulf, and they're licking their chops, thinking that they can perhaps get access or gain control there.

00:31:51.060 I've talked about how regime change schemes went on Tim Pool last week and broke down all of Operation Ajax and how that was a scheme between the CIA and originating with the MI6 to overthrow the duly elected prime minister of Iran, reinstall the shop, and completely blew up on our faces and led to the Iranian revolution.

00:32:13.320 So the thing with these regime change operations is they always seem good, but then everybody forgets that the enemy gets a vote, and they always seem to spiral out of control.

00:32:23.340 I can't necessarily think of a single one that's actually gone well for the United States or for anyone in any of these regions.

00:32:31.280 But Joshua, that's what it comes down to, because therefore, put it this way, war is a racket, and for those on the warmonger side, they seriously want, for a variety of reasons, as you've laid out, one of the bigger ones, they actually want to see the U.S. go to war.

00:32:47.700 Isn't that right?

00:32:49.040 That's right.

00:32:49.580 So we have both the religious and the economic arguments for war, war, war, when in reality, I don't believe that that's what the American people want.

00:32:59.960 Every survey, every poll shows how despairingly unpopular regime change in Iran is amongst not just Trump voters, but Americans more broadly, and also throughout the world.

00:33:13.660 There is simply not an appetite to do this once again, even though there is, for some, a religious motivation to escalate.

00:33:21.840 There's financial benefit in escalating for the military-industrial complex.

00:33:26.160 It's just simply not necessary for our president of peace to, from my perspective, escalate in here.

00:33:34.100 And there is that temptation for upsell.

00:33:37.020 Well, it was just the one of nuclear strikes.

00:33:39.960 Well, actually, maybe there's other sites.

00:33:41.940 Well, maybe we need to do this.

00:33:42.880 Maybe we need to do that.

00:33:44.640 And before you know, we've added all of our shopping cart.

00:33:46.040 I actually want to ask you about the psychology of upselling, you know, because this is something, a tactic that people can possibly look into on their, in their own daily basis when they know that it's coming up.

00:33:56.180 Folks, President Trump is in control.

00:33:59.320 Not the Iranians, not the Israelis, not the neocons.

00:34:03.740 President Trump is in control because it was the people of this country who put him there.

00:34:09.200 We'll be right back.

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00:35:37.400 We're on with Joshua Lysik.

00:35:40.160 And Joshua, you're the co-author of the books Unhumans as well as Bulletproof, the first book that you and I wrote together, the first book all about President Trump's two assassination attempts.

00:35:50.580 By the way, there was a foreign country that had a connection to one of those attempts.

00:35:55.000 That was the country of Ukraine because Ryan Wesley Routh, of course, was a Ukrainian foreign fighter and appeared in propaganda videos for the Azov Battalion.

00:36:05.780 But Joshua, we were talking about, and I've talked about this all last week, I've called the regime change upsell.

00:36:11.120 And I see it all across the media, this constant propaganda.

00:36:14.340 It was like, well, you can't just do one strike, Mr. President.

00:36:16.560 You got to go in.

00:36:17.280 You got to do the full regime change, regime change upsell, the upsell, the upsell, the upsell.

00:36:20.540 I got written up in the Washington Post.

00:36:22.280 They didn't write it properly, but I did get written up for coining this phrase, the regime change upsell.

00:36:27.520 But Joshua, walk us through the psychology of upselling, right?

00:36:32.700 This idea that, look, you go to a dentist and say, I got a toothache.

00:36:36.780 You go to the dentist and suddenly you're paying for all this work.

00:36:39.380 Same idea when you go to an auto shop.

00:36:41.460 And Shane Gillis has this new sitcom out all about auto shops.

00:36:45.200 And they specifically explain to you in that show how when you come in just for tires or just for an oil change,

00:36:51.520 they're trying to upsell you on all this other work.

00:36:54.400 Walk us through the psychology of upselling.

00:36:56.960 Why does it work?

00:36:58.700 The reason why it works is twofold.

00:37:01.580 And we're seeing with the Iran regime change upsell right now.

00:37:05.580 The first reason upselling as a sales technique tactic works is the foot in the door technique.

00:37:11.460 So ultimately, you have perhaps this large value sale that you're ultimately going towards.

00:37:18.440 But you start with something that is a little crack open that is reasonable and it is dismissible

00:37:25.460 and it just makes sense and all the logic is there and enough people, or in this case,

00:37:30.540 there's enough argument for agreement with it.

00:37:33.040 Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

00:37:34.360 I have a cavity, for example, with the dentist example.

00:37:37.580 And then it turns out you get your x-rays done and you have 50 cavities.

00:37:40.920 Slight exaggeration, but not by much.

00:37:42.800 And then the next reason kicks in, which is a sunk cost fallacy.

00:37:48.940 You know, you've been here all day getting all this dental work done and we had the cleaning,

00:37:52.340 we had the dentist, we had these x-rays.

00:37:54.100 And just look at all the stuff that needs to get done.

00:37:56.280 And you've already spent so much time and effort and cha-ching with this work here being done.

00:38:03.760 And that would just, it would just all go to waste.

00:38:06.140 It would all just be so wasted if we didn't.

00:38:09.320 And that's how the United States military stayed in Vietnam for so long.

00:38:16.320 Perpetual cross-sells and up-sells.

00:38:19.020 Well, we just need to do this.

00:38:20.060 We just need to do that.

00:38:21.020 Remember with Afghanistan, oh, it's just Osama bin Laden. 0.98

00:38:25.720 Oh, actually, it's weapons of mass destruction.

00:38:27.840 Oh, actually, the whole system's got to go.

00:38:29.760 Same with Arab Spring. 0.77

00:38:31.280 Oh, it's just Qaddafi.

00:38:32.860 Oh, now it's just Egypt.

00:38:34.260 Oh, now it's just Syria. 0.64

00:38:36.040 Oh, now it's just, and ultimately we have these massive conflicts where Americans' blood is being shed.

00:38:44.960 Needlessly, if you talk to any global war on terrorism veterans from that particular period,

00:38:49.760 was the American soldier put first?

00:38:53.200 Did we support the troops by these perpetual cross-sells and up-sells?

00:38:57.720 Many will say, absolutely not.

00:38:59.960 Absolutely not.

00:39:00.680 And so we see the same set of techniques.

00:39:03.220 The open door, you know, just crack it open a little bit.

00:39:06.560 It's very reasonable.

00:39:07.560 And once you get him into the dentist's chair and strapped on there,

00:39:10.500 you can up-sell him like mad with the sunk cost fallacy.

00:39:13.980 Of course.

00:39:14.740 So, Joshua, what are ways then to counter this?

00:39:17.060 Let's say, you know, you're going to the dentist, you're dropping your car off at the auto body shop

00:39:22.900 or the auto service center, and you know what's going to happen.

00:39:26.000 You know that you're about to be getting into the pressure.

00:39:28.520 What are some tactics people can use to counter this?

00:39:32.600 What is, Jack, what is the most masculine word in the English language?

00:39:37.560 Is the word no.

00:39:38.620 That's right.

00:39:40.700 I found myself, without irony and not as a joke, in a dentist's chair a few weeks ago,

00:39:46.800 and I got hit with the up-sell.

00:39:48.600 I went for a cleaning, a get regularly, but of course they bring out the membership,

00:39:53.160 and it's cheaper if you do this today, and you're already going to be paying this,

00:39:56.480 but it's cheaper if you do this.

00:39:57.820 Oh, boy.

00:39:58.460 Oh, and this and this and all the cavities, and I saw it, I looked it over, and I just said,

00:40:03.560 hmm, thank you, no, and they were taken aback.

00:40:07.860 They were a little bit shocked, like he was supposed to say yes.

00:40:11.720 What?

00:40:12.000 He just said no.

00:40:13.080 So the American people, to the regime change upsell in Iran, we can simply say no.

00:40:18.960 There's not any need for arguments or back and forth or statistics or studies or data or

00:40:22.500 no, no, and we can enforce that no with primaries, with feet on the ground or not,

00:40:29.860 when it comes to elections coming up, with phone calls, with emails, with causing trouble

00:40:35.840 of social media and reaching out to Donald Trump's inner circle of people who understand

00:40:40.900 what the war over there was really like during 2001 to 2015 or so.

00:40:46.200 Joshua Lysak, incredible content.

00:40:48.220 Where can people go to follow you, brother?

00:40:49.200 At Joshua Lysak, spelled L-I-S-A-C-E-C on X and other social media.

00:40:55.900 Make sure you're following him, folks.

00:40:57.860 Joshua Lysak, incredible content.

00:40:59.980 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission, Lea Shore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 23, 2025

IRAN’S FAILED RETALIATION： NeoCons Foaming At The Mouth For A New War In The Middle East

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