Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Jack Posobiec LIVE From CPAC Hungary

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00:00:26.680 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of Human Events Daily here live from Budapest, Hungary.

00:00:31.360 I want to go now to my talk earlier today, CPAC Hungary.

00:00:34.820 Well, good morning, everybody.

00:00:36.080 Wow.

00:00:38.120 It's been two years ago we've talked last time.

00:00:41.780 Is that two years already?

00:00:42.600 That's right.

00:00:42.820 Wow.

00:00:43.580 And I remember the last time I was here in Budapest, I said, and many people weren't sure about this at the time,

00:00:50.780 and it's incredible to be here every time I speak,

00:00:52.880 but I said here two years ago that Donald J. Trump will return as president of the United States of America,

00:01:00.360 and I'm here to report back that, yes, not only has he returned, he won the popular vote,

00:01:06.120 he won seven out of seven of the swing states,

00:01:08.960 he won the Electoral College, the Senate, and the House of Representatives,

00:01:12.840 and survived two assassination attempts when he did so.

00:01:16.420 So I think he's outperformed all of our wildest expectations.

00:01:21.080 Well done.

00:01:21.680 And back two years ago, the main topic of the discussion was common sense.

00:01:26.600 Yes.

00:01:27.560 And as we see, common sense probably started to come back to the United States.

00:01:31.620 Hopefully.

00:01:32.060 It's a high time that it comes back in Europe, to Europe.

00:01:36.120 But my idea for today's discussion was, and is a little bit different now.

00:01:42.200 Okay.

00:01:42.420 And that is, but common sense is bumping into it anyhow.

00:01:46.160 So it's how you experience the walkway of governance, actually, unearthing, coming to the light.

00:01:56.000 Your president, those who started to take positions in the administration, have already bumped into it.

00:02:03.280 President Trump has common sense, and wokeness has nonsense.

00:02:07.480 That's right.

00:02:07.960 But the thing is, we here in Hungary, in Europe, as a matter of fact, see that whenever a conservative right-wing government comes

00:02:15.680 and starts talking common sense and starts working for the people, they immediately start denying everything.

00:02:23.200 So the name of the game is, whatever we do, and this is the Hungarian experience for the past 15 years by now,

00:02:28.320 they say no, and paraphrasing one famous phrase, their way and their approach to governance is not of the people,

00:02:39.080 not by the people, and not for the people.

00:02:41.560 Ah, yes.

00:02:42.520 Well, we had an issue, and I had the opportunity to speak with great leader, Prime Minister Orban, here just yesterday

00:02:51.820 in an interview that will be released later today.

00:02:54.260 And I asked him about this question because, as it turns out, we were not sure exactly who was the president of the United States the last four years

00:03:06.240 because we were told that it was Joe Biden, and it turns out that his brain was not quite capable all the time.

00:03:15.240 And instead, he was using this auto pen to sign his documents, and we're not entirely sure who was in control of the auto pen.

00:03:22.780 So to take your phrase and this classic phrase and turn it around, instead of having the government of the people, by the people, and for the people,

00:03:32.180 we had the government of the pen, by the pen, for the pen.

00:03:38.360 Very well.

00:03:39.240 And the thing is that it sounds absurd, and I can tell you that for the past 15 years, coming to power in 2010,

00:03:47.420 and we bumped into seemingly absurd phenomenon, how the government was running, how it was conceived to be run,

00:03:55.100 and how, in the name of democracy, they basically went around democracy and started to implement something completely different.

00:04:02.740 What's your finding of the essence of the democratic way of governance and the NGOs, the so-called civil society behind it,

00:04:13.340 which obviously, in brackets, has nothing to do with real civil society?

00:04:16.500 Well, this is the George Soros model of government, where when they say it's an open society,

00:04:22.440 what they actually mean is that it's open for the bureaucrats and the plutocrats and the technocrats,

00:04:28.340 and it is open to all manner of special interests other than the actual people of the nation itself.

00:04:35.680 Because it serves the NGOs, it serves the Soros level, it serves the bureaucracy level,

00:04:41.660 the special interests, the corporate level, the multinationals, but it doesn't serve the people.

00:04:46.760 And so, when you have these governments, like the one that we just experienced in the United States for four years,

00:04:52.580 this was not government of the people.

00:04:54.600 This individual, Joe Biden, he was not running that office.

00:04:58.400 That office was being run by his advisors, it was being run by his wife,

00:05:02.420 it was being run by his son, in many cases.

00:05:05.780 So, of course, this raises many questions for democracy.

00:05:09.800 Who is actually representing the people?

00:05:12.700 Who has been elected by them?

00:05:14.080 Who has been empowered by them?

00:05:15.660 So, sovereign rights of the leader should derive from the people in a democracy.

00:05:20.660 This is the basic philosophy of a democratic government.

00:05:23.380 However, if that sovereignty instead is given away to, say, courts, as we've seen in the United States,

00:05:30.280 academia, unelected experts, unelected bureaucracy, well, then you don't have a democracy at all anymore.

00:05:37.360 What you have is an oligarchy.

00:05:39.060 And an oligarchic system whereby the faces change at the top, but the actual power structure never changes.

00:05:49.080 That's why, when President Trump and the MAGA movement have returned to power now in the United States,

00:05:54.160 the specific goal, not only of President Trump, but also of Elon Musk, of Bobby Kennedy,

00:06:00.600 of so many others that have come, are targeting this power structure, which is actually below the surface.

00:06:07.020 This is why we use the phrase, deep state, and some of these other ways to describe this,

00:06:11.320 because that's actually who's in power.

00:06:13.320 And I would argue that, unfortunately, this system of the pen, by the pen, for the pen,

00:06:19.640 isn't just happening in the United States, or was happening in the United States.

00:06:24.520 We see this across Europe as well in many, not this country, by the way,

00:06:29.180 but in many countries in Western Europe, you see the exact same problem,

00:06:34.240 where they change chancellors, or they change prime ministers, but the policies don't change.

00:06:39.240 They keep allowing for a war in Ukraine, which is unwinnable at this point,

00:06:44.220 it was unwinnable from the start, to continue.

00:06:46.400 They keep escalating the war towards nuclear confrontation with Russia,

00:06:50.520 and they continue the mass importation of migrants from the third world,

00:06:55.780 illegal migrants in many cases, economic migrants in others.

00:06:59.120 And when you change the nature of the people, then you change the country itself.

00:07:04.640 If you replace the people of Hungary, then it would no longer be Hungary. 0.66

00:07:07.740 If you replace the people of Poland, it would no longer be Poland. 0.98

00:07:11.020 If you replace the people of America, it would no longer be America. 0.97

00:07:14.280 And yet, for those in power, this seems to be their specific goal.

00:07:18.340 Well, that's right.

00:07:18.900 And from the other side, you would listen to the argument.

00:07:23.400 This is called populism you are talking about.

00:07:25.720 But we've just heard a couple of good descriptions and outline what we think about the deep state.

00:07:34.100 The prime minister is very outspoken, and we heard all the other lecturers actually yesterday and today

00:07:39.020 about the effort to regain the autonomy of politics,

00:07:43.520 and that is the policymaker who's been elected.

00:07:46.880 The name of democracy is very simple.

00:07:49.500 Decision comes and goes with those actually who've been elected.

00:07:53.000 They bear the right, the mandate, and they bear responsibility.

00:07:57.900 And that's what is missing in today's European world, as a matter of fact, 0.62

00:08:01.100 as we see the bureaucracies overruling, basically, democratic decisions,

00:08:05.260 calling their opponents who claim for democracy by all kinds of buzzwords.

00:08:10.800 How do you think it's possible to deconstruct what's being built for the past couple of decades by now?

00:08:17.940 So, in the United States, we're facing the same issue.

00:08:20.960 In Europe, obviously, there's many issues as well.

00:08:24.000 We don't have a European Union structure like most of Europe does.

00:08:28.620 Now, the UK, of course, pulled out in the Brexit situation,

00:08:31.740 and yet you notice, even though the people of the UK voted to leave the European Union,

00:08:36.100 I don't think the leaders of the UK have actually listened to them,

00:08:39.380 and so they still keep trying to make these secret deals to stay in in many ways.

00:08:43.920 And I certainly, by the way, support the efforts of Nigel Farage,

00:08:47.640 who will be the next prime minister of the UK,

00:08:51.080 in order to complete the Brexit situation and sever that.

00:08:54.320 In the United States, it's a complicated process, but it's simple.

00:08:59.420 The issue is that the sovereign power of the United States,

00:09:03.260 which should be installed in the elected representatives,

00:09:07.060 so the people have chosen the president, the people have chosen the House,

00:09:10.680 the Senate, that's our Congress, and then those then go and appoint the judges.

00:09:14.500 The problem is that sovereignty has essentially leaked out,

00:09:18.400 like a boat with a leak in it.

00:09:21.000 And so the sovereignty has leaked into these other institutions,

00:09:25.200 NGOs, universities, media corporations, which are receiving taxpayer dollars.

00:09:31.880 And so this tax money, which is flowing, yes, from Soros to some extent,

00:09:36.600 but the major goal of what he does is to bring taxpayer dollars to these institutions,

00:09:42.960 which then become the lifeblood of what I call the enemies of the republic,

00:09:48.240 the enemies of a small r, Republican government.

00:09:51.900 And so what we must do then is to sever this link, sever it and cut it off.

00:09:57.840 And you're seeing that now with President Trump in his direct efforts against the Ivy League universities,

00:10:04.340 against Harvard University, banning foreign students because this is a major source of income for them.

00:10:10.440 But all federal dollars that are going to these engines of the anti, in philosophical terms,

00:10:19.480 you would call it anti-democratic institutions, this link must be severed.

00:10:23.820 And this is why you see so much anger from them when he goes after this.

00:10:29.960 Actually, there were some issues, some of the woke issues, trans issue. 0.54

00:10:33.900 You notice there was not much response when Trump cut the trans programs.

00:10:37.900 They were not upset about this. Why? They're more upset about the money.

00:10:42.080 If you can follow the money and sever this connection, cut off all of it from them,

00:10:46.880 then you can really, really break away their power structure.

00:10:49.800 And on the other side of that, in the United States, we have the issue of these district judges have gone completely radical.

00:10:57.740 And their decisions to countermand the executive, this is a complete abrogation of their constitutional duties.

00:11:04.300 They are stepping on the rights of the executive.

00:11:07.020 If we have an executive under our system, he's not a monarch, but he is an executive,

00:11:11.700 and he's not a monarch yet, at least.

00:11:13.480 And their funding should also be cut.

00:11:19.480 The United States has longstanding and very strict laws on transparency,

00:11:25.480 with a special regard to money coming from abroad.

00:11:27.860 And you see the voices, the screams coming out of Hungarian politics and European politics,

00:11:35.820 when the Hungarian government and the Hungarian parliament is trying to make political money,

00:11:42.180 who is talking, transparent.

00:11:45.620 You know, by Hungarian law, it's strictly forbidden for political parties to receive any kind of foreign money, full stop.

00:11:51.720 When we started to introduce new measures, which is requiring the very same, actually, from so-called civil society,

00:12:00.400 and anyone who is dealing with public affairs, you see this outcry.

00:12:05.380 So one element is that you have to have stricter rules and transparency rules installed on the ground,

00:12:10.820 and very obviously it's an institutional process.

00:12:13.320 But you, as an experienced influencer and user of the social media,

00:12:19.300 is it a way out of this kind of deadlock or fading kind of democracy that you speak, talk to the people directly,

00:12:28.160 and that is through social media?

00:12:29.880 Well, it is through social media, and social media has been incredible,

00:12:32.620 and I'm very supportive of everything that Elon Musk has done to free speech across the Internet through his purchase of X.

00:12:40.640 You mentioned about the money, the foreign money that goes from NGOs, the civil society programs.

00:12:46.980 If you have a civil society program in your country, you must shut it down immediately.

00:12:53.700 You must shut it down, you must ban it, you must take all of its assets and completely dissolve it,

00:12:59.300 because this exists only to undermine the will of the people, to undermine governments,

00:13:04.760 and to serve this transnational, transglobal agenda.

00:13:07.640 These are the greatest threats to actual democracy in our nation.

00:13:13.640 We see this.

00:13:14.280 They support illegal aliens. 0.97

00:13:15.960 They support the flow of illegal migrants across our southern border. 0.90

00:13:19.840 They support the upending of the rule of law throughout our states.

00:13:23.620 If you remove these civil society programs, what you're doing is you're taking away their ability to fund these revolutionary programs.

00:13:31.420 And what we're actually seeing with these civil society programs, they have the nicest names in the world,

00:13:36.860 but what they are, in essence, are a form of neo-Marxism to serve as a way to destabilize countries,

00:13:45.640 destabilize the rule of law, and agitate for an irregular form of revolutionary governance.

00:13:51.700 Very well.

00:13:53.600 As always, it's very easy to talk to you and with you about these issues, because we're straightforward.

00:14:01.300 What do you suggest is going to be the agenda for the upcoming, say, year in the United States?

00:14:07.340 We already see the first obstacles emerging or trying to emerge in face of the president's efforts.

00:14:13.460 And what's your estimation of European democracy for the upcoming months?

00:14:18.520 Well, I certainly hope that the populist nationalist revolution that has been headed by President Trump in the United States,

00:14:25.820 you see populist nationalists in Poland, and, of course, the great leadership of Viktor Orban.

00:14:30.840 I hope that it spreads across all of Europe, whether it's AfD in Germany, whether it's Nigel Farage in the UK,

00:14:37.780 and so many, Robert Fizzo in Slovakia, who came and spoke here just yesterday.

00:14:42.820 I hope and pray that the people's parties are able to take back national sovereignty, national identity,

00:14:50.440 and remind the people of Europe of the essential truth of our people that Jesus Christ is our King,

00:14:59.220 and that God must return to the very center of our way of life.

00:15:03.540 Amen.

00:15:04.960 Thank you.

00:15:05.720 As always, it's been a pleasure talking to John Fossabiak, and I hope we'll be able to meet next year.

00:15:12.320 Of course.

00:15:12.760 You take care.

00:15:13.660 Thank you for being with us.

00:15:15.080 You have a great day.

00:15:15.740 Thank you.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 30, 2025

Jack Posobiec LIVE From CPAC Hungary

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