Jack Posobiec LIVE From CPAC Hungary
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On today's episode of Human Events Daily, I'm reporting live from CPAC in Budapest, Hungary, where I was invited to give a keynote address to the conservative right-wing government of Prime Minister Viktor Orban. I talk about common sense, and why it's time for common sense to return to Europe.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of Human Events Daily here live from Budapest, Hungary.
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I want to go now to my talk earlier today, CPAC Hungary.
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It's been two years ago we've talked last time.
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And I remember the last time I was here in Budapest, I said, and many people weren't sure about this at the time,
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and it's incredible to be here every time I speak,
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but I said here two years ago that Donald J. Trump will return as president of the United States of America,
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and I'm here to report back that, yes, not only has he returned, he won the popular vote,
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he won the Electoral College, the Senate, and the House of Representatives,
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and survived two assassination attempts when he did so.
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So I think he's outperformed all of our wildest expectations.
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And back two years ago, the main topic of the discussion was common sense.
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And as we see, common sense probably started to come back to the United States.
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It's a high time that it comes back in Europe, to Europe.
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But my idea for today's discussion was, and is a little bit different now.
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And that is, but common sense is bumping into it anyhow.
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So it's how you experience the walkway of governance, actually, unearthing, coming to the light.
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Your president, those who started to take positions in the administration, have already bumped into it.
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President Trump has common sense, and wokeness has nonsense.
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But the thing is, we here in Hungary, in Europe, as a matter of fact, see that whenever a conservative right-wing government comes
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and starts talking common sense and starts working for the people, they immediately start denying everything.
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So the name of the game is, whatever we do, and this is the Hungarian experience for the past 15 years by now,
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they say no, and paraphrasing one famous phrase, their way and their approach to governance is not of the people,
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Well, we had an issue, and I had the opportunity to speak with great leader, Prime Minister Orban, here just yesterday
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in an interview that will be released later today.
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And I asked him about this question because, as it turns out, we were not sure exactly who was the president of the United States the last four years
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because we were told that it was Joe Biden, and it turns out that his brain was not quite capable all the time.
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And instead, he was using this auto pen to sign his documents, and we're not entirely sure who was in control of the auto pen.
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So to take your phrase and this classic phrase and turn it around, instead of having the government of the people, by the people, and for the people,
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we had the government of the pen, by the pen, for the pen.
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And the thing is that it sounds absurd, and I can tell you that for the past 15 years, coming to power in 2010,
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and we bumped into seemingly absurd phenomenon, how the government was running, how it was conceived to be run,
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and how, in the name of democracy, they basically went around democracy and started to implement something completely different.
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What's your finding of the essence of the democratic way of governance and the NGOs, the so-called civil society behind it,
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which obviously, in brackets, has nothing to do with real civil society?
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Well, this is the George Soros model of government, where when they say it's an open society,
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what they actually mean is that it's open for the bureaucrats and the plutocrats and the technocrats,
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and it is open to all manner of special interests other than the actual people of the nation itself.
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Because it serves the NGOs, it serves the Soros level, it serves the bureaucracy level,
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the special interests, the corporate level, the multinationals, but it doesn't serve the people.
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And so, when you have these governments, like the one that we just experienced in the United States for four years,
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This individual, Joe Biden, he was not running that office.
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That office was being run by his advisors, it was being run by his wife,
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So, of course, this raises many questions for democracy.
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So, sovereign rights of the leader should derive from the people in a democracy.
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This is the basic philosophy of a democratic government.
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However, if that sovereignty instead is given away to, say, courts, as we've seen in the United States,
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academia, unelected experts, unelected bureaucracy, well, then you don't have a democracy at all anymore.
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And an oligarchic system whereby the faces change at the top, but the actual power structure never changes.
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That's why, when President Trump and the MAGA movement have returned to power now in the United States,
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the specific goal, not only of President Trump, but also of Elon Musk, of Bobby Kennedy,
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of so many others that have come, are targeting this power structure, which is actually below the surface.
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This is why we use the phrase, deep state, and some of these other ways to describe this,
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And I would argue that, unfortunately, this system of the pen, by the pen, for the pen,
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isn't just happening in the United States, or was happening in the United States.
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We see this across Europe as well in many, not this country, by the way,
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but in many countries in Western Europe, you see the exact same problem,
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where they change chancellors, or they change prime ministers, but the policies don't change.
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They keep allowing for a war in Ukraine, which is unwinnable at this point,
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They keep escalating the war towards nuclear confrontation with Russia,
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and they continue the mass importation of migrants from the third world,
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illegal migrants in many cases, economic migrants in others.
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And when you change the nature of the people, then you change the country itself.
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If you replace the people of Hungary, then it would no longer be Hungary.
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If you replace the people of Poland, it would no longer be Poland.
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If you replace the people of America, it would no longer be America.
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And yet, for those in power, this seems to be their specific goal.
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And from the other side, you would listen to the argument.
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But we've just heard a couple of good descriptions and outline what we think about the deep state.
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The prime minister is very outspoken, and we heard all the other lecturers actually yesterday and today
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about the effort to regain the autonomy of politics,
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and that is the policymaker who's been elected.
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Decision comes and goes with those actually who've been elected.
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They bear the right, the mandate, and they bear responsibility.
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And that's what is missing in today's European world, as a matter of fact,
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as we see the bureaucracies overruling, basically, democratic decisions,
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calling their opponents who claim for democracy by all kinds of buzzwords.
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How do you think it's possible to deconstruct what's being built for the past couple of decades by now?
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So, in the United States, we're facing the same issue.
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In Europe, obviously, there's many issues as well.
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We don't have a European Union structure like most of Europe does.
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Now, the UK, of course, pulled out in the Brexit situation,
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and yet you notice, even though the people of the UK voted to leave the European Union,
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I don't think the leaders of the UK have actually listened to them,
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and so they still keep trying to make these secret deals to stay in in many ways.
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And I certainly, by the way, support the efforts of Nigel Farage,
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in order to complete the Brexit situation and sever that.
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In the United States, it's a complicated process, but it's simple.
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The issue is that the sovereign power of the United States,
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which should be installed in the elected representatives,
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so the people have chosen the president, the people have chosen the House,
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the Senate, that's our Congress, and then those then go and appoint the judges.
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The problem is that sovereignty has essentially leaked out,
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And so the sovereignty has leaked into these other institutions,
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NGOs, universities, media corporations, which are receiving taxpayer dollars.
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And so this tax money, which is flowing, yes, from Soros to some extent,
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but the major goal of what he does is to bring taxpayer dollars to these institutions,
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which then become the lifeblood of what I call the enemies of the republic,
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the enemies of a small r, Republican government.
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And so what we must do then is to sever this link, sever it and cut it off.
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And you're seeing that now with President Trump in his direct efforts against the Ivy League universities,
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against Harvard University, banning foreign students because this is a major source of income for them.
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But all federal dollars that are going to these engines of the anti, in philosophical terms,
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you would call it anti-democratic institutions, this link must be severed.
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And this is why you see so much anger from them when he goes after this.
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Actually, there were some issues, some of the woke issues, trans issue.
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You notice there was not much response when Trump cut the trans programs.
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They were not upset about this. Why? They're more upset about the money.
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If you can follow the money and sever this connection, cut off all of it from them,
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then you can really, really break away their power structure.
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And on the other side of that, in the United States, we have the issue of these district judges have gone completely radical.
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And their decisions to countermand the executive, this is a complete abrogation of their constitutional duties.
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They are stepping on the rights of the executive.
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If we have an executive under our system, he's not a monarch, but he is an executive,
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The United States has longstanding and very strict laws on transparency,
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with a special regard to money coming from abroad.
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And you see the voices, the screams coming out of Hungarian politics and European politics,
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when the Hungarian government and the Hungarian parliament is trying to make political money,
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You know, by Hungarian law, it's strictly forbidden for political parties to receive any kind of foreign money, full stop.
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When we started to introduce new measures, which is requiring the very same, actually, from so-called civil society,
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and anyone who is dealing with public affairs, you see this outcry.
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So one element is that you have to have stricter rules and transparency rules installed on the ground,
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and very obviously it's an institutional process.
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But you, as an experienced influencer and user of the social media,
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is it a way out of this kind of deadlock or fading kind of democracy that you speak, talk to the people directly,
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Well, it is through social media, and social media has been incredible,
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and I'm very supportive of everything that Elon Musk has done to free speech across the Internet through his purchase of X.
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You mentioned about the money, the foreign money that goes from NGOs, the civil society programs.
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If you have a civil society program in your country, you must shut it down immediately.
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You must shut it down, you must ban it, you must take all of its assets and completely dissolve it,
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because this exists only to undermine the will of the people, to undermine governments,
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and to serve this transnational, transglobal agenda.
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These are the greatest threats to actual democracy in our nation.
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They support the flow of illegal migrants across our southern border.
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They support the upending of the rule of law throughout our states.
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If you remove these civil society programs, what you're doing is you're taking away their ability to fund these revolutionary programs.
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And what we're actually seeing with these civil society programs, they have the nicest names in the world,
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but what they are, in essence, are a form of neo-Marxism to serve as a way to destabilize countries,
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destabilize the rule of law, and agitate for an irregular form of revolutionary governance.
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As always, it's very easy to talk to you and with you about these issues, because we're straightforward.
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What do you suggest is going to be the agenda for the upcoming, say, year in the United States?
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We already see the first obstacles emerging or trying to emerge in face of the president's efforts.
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And what's your estimation of European democracy for the upcoming months?
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Well, I certainly hope that the populist nationalist revolution that has been headed by President Trump in the United States,
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you see populist nationalists in Poland, and, of course, the great leadership of Viktor Orban.
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I hope that it spreads across all of Europe, whether it's AfD in Germany, whether it's Nigel Farage in the UK,
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and so many, Robert Fizzo in Slovakia, who came and spoke here just yesterday.
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I hope and pray that the people's parties are able to take back national sovereignty, national identity,
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and remind the people of Europe of the essential truth of our people that Jesus Christ is our King,
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and that God must return to the very center of our way of life.
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As always, it's been a pleasure talking to John Fossabiak, and I hope we'll be able to meet next year.