Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 29, 2026


JAMES COMEY INDICTED Amidst Leftist Assassination Culture SURGE


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Former FBI Director James Comey has been charged with one count of conspiracy to commit a crime, a charge that carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison. The charge stems from a post that James Comey made on his social media in May of 2018.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I wanted to let you know that we're starting a new push for subscriptions
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00:00:56.840 Democrats in the Senate are trying to stop potential conflict in Cuba, but they failed
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00:01:11.340 Senate Democrats have tried and failed multiple times in recent weeks to rein in Trump's war
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00:01:33.360 any consideration of race when redrawing congressional maps. The decision potentially
00:01:38.420 reducing the influence of minority voters and minority representation in Congress.
00:01:44.340 Do you have proof that the former FBI director knowingly and willfully threatened the life of
00:01:50.100 president? The grand jury indicted Mr. Comey yesterday. Grand juries hear evidence. That
00:01:56.520 evidence is not something that anybody can talk about today. But when you talk about whether
00:02:01.100 proof exists, the proof that we have is in the fact that the grand jury returned an indictment.
00:02:06.280 Remember, that is not the Department of Justice charging James Comey with a crime. That is a
00:02:11.400 grand jury returning a two-count indictment. Let's do a compare and contrast, Mr. Blanche. In 2022,
00:02:18.560 someone well-known in right-wing circles, Jack Paskovic, posted on X, 8646. He did not take it
00:02:25.080 down. He did not apologize. Mr. Comey has done both of those things. The Biden Justice Department
00:02:29.940 never prosecuted him. By the standard of that grand jury, Jack Paskovic should face charges as
00:02:36.300 well. Will the Justice Department pursue that case? Because they sound very similar.
00:02:41.580 That's just completely not true. That's not how a grand jury does its work. They don't just look
00:02:46.620 at a single image and then say, okay, yes, we'll indict, or okay, no, we won't indict.
00:02:51.700 They do an investigation. This conduct took place in May of last year, May 15th. It has
00:02:57.200 been almost a year. I assure you the FBI, the Secret Service, and the U.S. Attorney's
00:03:01.960 Office have not been sitting around doing nothing. They have been investigating. I have
00:03:05.980 no idea whether there was an investigation into the other times that that post has been
00:03:10.860 made and whether that investigation yielded different results. This investigation that
00:03:15.620 What we undertook resulted in a two-count indictment.
00:03:21.720 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:03:24.700 Today is April 29th, 2026, Anno Domini.
00:03:29.740 James Comey is currently being indicted down in court.
00:03:34.900 He's turned himself in in North Carolina, whereas CBS News, as you saw this morning,
00:03:42.620 pushing acting attorney general blanche and asking why hasn't he indicted me why hasn't he indicted
00:03:50.520 jack posobic conservative commentator author former navy intelligence veteran well
00:04:00.100 blanche pointed out that the context matters that the investigation matters that intent matters
00:04:09.260 The grand jury's work matters.
00:04:12.860 And so as everyone on the human events audience remembers that in 2021 and 2022, we did a
00:04:18.800 series called the shade war updates, and it was all about whether or not Kamala Harris
00:04:24.060 would launch the 25th amendment on Joe Biden.
00:04:28.720 Every conservative was talking about 25th amendment on Biden or impeaching Biden.
00:04:33.900 That was the context.
00:04:35.360 Donald Trump faced two assassination attempts in 2024.
00:04:41.480 This is two years later.
00:04:43.420 So 2022, 2024.
00:04:46.040 Butler and Palm Beach change the context.
00:04:50.380 And oh, by the way, we just had a third assassination attempt Saturday night, less than one week ago.
00:04:59.220 But people will say, well, hold on.
00:05:01.960 How do you know?
00:05:03.820 How do you know?
00:05:04.520 You still have to prove intent somehow.
00:05:07.320 What is the way that we can prove intent with James Comey?
00:05:11.380 Well, I'm more than happy to be able to do that.
00:05:15.920 What was James Comey's Instagram post immediately before his post about the numbers?
00:05:25.140 Everyone talks about the number of posts, but everyone misses the post that was right before it.
00:05:29.960 We've got that post for you right now.
00:05:31.900 It's James Comey on a beach.
00:05:33.680 and what is he doing he's reading a book called fdr drive now why does this matter well fdr drive
00:05:42.040 is a book that james comey himself wrote it's a novel he put it out and what is the context of
00:05:47.400 it was the content the plot political assassinations is the plot so james comey
00:05:54.100 writes a book about political assassinations and then he puts up the content and a link
00:06:02.420 to buy his book, along with the description of the book, immediately after his post about
00:06:09.800 86-47.
00:06:11.700 This is why if you read the indictment, which nobody in media has done, the second part
00:06:18.200 of the indictment is a section all about proceeds, proceeds derived from the offense.
00:06:25.960 Under federal law, you cannot derive proceeds from a crime.
00:06:32.420 He made money, ladies and gentlemen, by selling a book, by selling a novel about political
00:06:38.580 assassinations.
00:06:39.780 That's why he made this inciting comment to rile up the members of the far left by making
00:06:47.980 this comment, this inciting comment about President Trump.
00:06:51.560 He knew that there would be media attention and he knew that this would spark interest
00:06:56.580 in his book, which again was about political assassinations.
00:07:01.400 that's why that's the second count of the indictment that's why he has to forfeit his
00:07:06.680 property derived from the proceeds of an offense and that is why ladies and gentlemen we can see
00:07:13.540 the intent and the motive for james comey here directly tied to his book sales about political
00:07:21.640 assassination you're right back with more jack so the human events daily nothing will stand in
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00:09:08.160 I wanted to switch gears a little bit since we're talking legal cases today, since we're talking criminal cases.
00:09:13.400 Someone that I've personally wanted to have on the show for weeks now, probably months at this point.
00:09:18.700 Andrea Burkhart joins us.
00:09:20.760 You guys may have seen her. She's all over LawTube. She's been covering so many cases, 0.99
00:09:25.720 but one in particular that sparks our interest is, of course, the Tyler Robinson case. She also
00:09:30.980 has a sub stack that I hope you guys check out because it is phenomenal. And she's got all the
00:09:35.200 hard documents, the evidence, the filings are all there. Andrea, how are you? Very good. Thanks so
00:09:40.460 much for having me. Thank you just seriously so much for the tireless work that you do, because
00:09:47.180 I've seen you do some of these hearings.
00:09:48.800 What is the longest hearing that you've live-streamed at this point?
00:09:54.400 Probably in the ballpark of 10 to 11 hours.
00:09:57.840 Oh, my gosh.
00:09:59.440 And the hearings will end, and then you'll still, you know,
00:10:02.080 you'll do commentary for another hour, hour and a half, two hours I've seen.
00:10:07.040 Yeah, it's not uncommon.
00:10:08.680 I mean, a lot can happen in a full day of court.
00:10:11.000 And a part of what I'm trying to do,
00:10:13.100 I've been a practicing criminal defense lawyer for almost 20 years,
00:10:16.800 And so I'm just trying to bring a little bit of insight into just the parts of the process that if you're not a lawyer, you may not be aware of, you may not understand kind of how things are unfolding the way that they are, why certain decisions are made and so forth.
00:10:33.620 So I just find that, especially in this day and age where there's a lot of interest in the criminal justice process, which I find very gratifying and hope to kind of help just make it a little bit more accessible for people that are interested in cases.
00:10:48.880 well i think that's great and you do such a great job of breaking it down you know one of the the
00:10:55.680 ones that we've seen though with tyler robinson specifically is you know there's a case and
00:10:59.840 obviously you know myself all the colleagues you know we're very close to this one but
00:11:04.100 you know the level i think of misinformation on this case has gotten really high and very very
00:11:11.180 rapidly whereas to me it seemed to me that the evidence in the case was pretty straightforward
00:11:17.440 And that, you know, I kind of thought, you know, through what I thought the, you know, the legal challenges might be, what the defense might be.
00:11:24.920 And it's actually kind of kind of what we've seen play out, to tell you the truth.
00:11:28.680 Like, this is pretty much what I expected, because and but I'll throw it to you.
00:11:33.360 When you look at the defense's strategy thus far in the case, I don't see very much example, at least for them, of arguing about whether or not evidence is for or against him.
00:11:46.180 I seem to it seems to be more delay procedure, whether certain evidence is allowed in that type of thing.
00:11:53.260 Do you get what I'm saying? I do. And, you know, when you're a criminal defense lawyer, it's part of the reason why I started doing what I do is is I want to help people understand what exactly that means and what the job is.
00:12:07.320 Criminal defense lawyers tend to not be particularly popular in just the world at large.
00:12:13.920 And I think a lot of that is just based on a misunderstanding of what the role entails.
00:12:19.640 You get the case that is presented to you.
00:12:22.140 And some of those cases give you a lot to work with.
00:12:24.820 Some of the cases give you much less to work with.
00:12:27.400 And so your role in a case can be anything from vigorously fighting to establish the
00:12:32.900 innocence of a client that you sincerely believe didn't commit the crime to explaining to your
00:12:39.680 client what it's going to be like to be processed into prison and how parole works and things along
00:12:45.280 those lines. So it's all very fact dependent. But after the time that I've spent in practice,
00:12:51.300 you get pretty accustomed to being able to read initial documents, probable cause affidavits and
00:12:57.920 things like that, and get a pretty good sense of what you're going to have to work with in a case
00:13:03.460 versus what you're not. And so this case in particular, the probable cause affidavit,
00:13:11.740 it is a representation of the evidence that the state anticipates being able to present.
00:13:17.280 Of course, isn't the evidence itself, but it's a representation that this is what they're going
00:13:22.260 to be able to establish. And so if they are able to do that, if they're able to deliver on
00:13:28.960 what they represent they have in these charging documents, this is quite a strong case against
00:13:35.420 Tyler Robinson. It doesn't leave a whole lot of opportunity to argue factual innocence. And so
00:13:42.000 the only way that the defense is likely to be able to create room for themselves to get there
00:13:48.280 is through these efforts to kind of challenge, for example, the validity of some of the scientific
00:13:57.440 evidence. We've had previews from the defense that some of these issues they expect to litigate
00:14:03.780 concerning DNA evidence, concerning ballistics evidence, and things along those lines.
00:14:10.540 And so the more they can ship away at the evidence that is actually going to be presented to a jury
00:14:18.020 to be part of its decision, then the better opportunity they may have to be able to
00:14:23.580 identify some reasonable doubt, some reasons for a jury to acquit. But if those efforts are not
00:14:31.700 successful, then they're very likely going to be in a situation which is quite often the case in
00:14:39.180 death penalty cases, where your main focus is simply going to be trying to save this individual's
00:14:44.900 life, that there isn't necessarily a good case to be made for factual innocence. But the goal is to
00:14:52.560 simply avoid the death sentence, present the mitigating circumstances, present the jury with
00:14:58.200 the reasons why they should not choose death as a consequence. And so what you're talking about,
00:15:04.600 this is all in the context, and just for, I get what you're saying, but for the folks of,
00:15:09.460 you know, that may not have followed the case as closely, you're talking about,
00:15:12.060 will certain elements of the evidence be allowed to be entered in the trial?
00:15:17.140 Because at this point, there's no jury.
00:15:19.000 There's no date for a trial to be set.
00:15:21.640 And we haven't even had the preliminary hearing.
00:15:23.980 So all of these fights are going to be about what that future jury is allowed to see and
00:15:31.220 to weigh as evidence for or against the guilt of Tyler Robinson in this case.
00:15:36.540 And that's why.
00:15:37.260 And to your point, this is very similar to what you would see in other capital cases.
00:15:42.060 where there are going to be fights over the validity of testing of DNA, of ballistics, of all of these things.
00:15:48.420 Is that test, you know, is that a new type of science?
00:15:51.120 Is that a new type of evaluation, et cetera, et cetera, where, you know, where they're going to be looking at?
00:15:59.140 I'm sure there's going to be questions about surveillance cameras and footage and the technology that we use for all sorts of things.
00:16:06.320 But ultimately, that's just about getting it into the actual trial, which hasn't even started yet.
00:16:12.820 Absolutely. In fact, Tyler Robinson, this is often one of the things that isn't understood.
00:16:19.520 Tyler Robinson hasn't even entered a plea at this point in time under Utah law.
00:16:23.440 Is that usual or is that like a Utah thing?
00:16:28.240 It's not terribly unusual. I don't think that it's unique to Utah.
00:16:33.140 But it's based on this idea that because they have not used a grand jury to kind of review and invalidate these charges being brought based on the evidence that the state purports to have, that at this point there is nothing really formal for him to answer to.
00:16:53.640 And so until the preliminary hearing has been held and the judge has made a determination, yes, there is sufficient evidence here to find probable cause to believe that this individual committed the crime, he's not required to formally enter a plea until that happens.
00:17:11.580 So it remains, at least theoretically possible, that that could fail and he would never have to enter a plea on the case. The case would simply be dismissed for insufficient evidence.
00:17:23.640 That said, given, you know, what we anticipate from these charging documents, the evidence is going to be that that seems pretty unlikely.
00:17:33.100 And the bar, of course, is I mean, this is this is pretty much the highest bar that you're going to need if you're actually going for the death penalty, which they are.
00:17:41.120 They need to hit every single piece of this.
00:17:43.860 And by the way, not just in this trial, but also at every level of review and appeal, which, of course, will inevitably come.
00:17:52.020 Oh, absolutely.
00:17:53.020 I think that one of the things that is important to bear in mind with a case like this, any type of death penalty case, but here is where Utah in particular, it may be an issue, is that the process of appeal and post-conviction relief through the federal courts, this can be not just a years-long process, but a decades-long process.
00:18:17.380 As we sit here today, I believe the person who is serving the longest term on death row at this point in time is Michael Archuleta. He has been on death row for 36 years, and his case is still under post-conviction review.
00:18:35.800 It's currently having hearings in the in the Superior Court. It was sent back down to Superior Court by the federal court to kind of take evidence and make certain factual findings.
00:18:47.100 And so once it goes back up to Superior to a district court, then it will work its way again through the federal appellate process.
00:18:53.780 So these things, they don't happen quickly. And they're also what the defense lawyers have in mind right now in Tyler Robinson's case is they're making their choices about how to proceed.
00:19:06.980 They know the process because it's their state. They know. Andrew Burkhart, we are coming up on a hard break. Let me put a pin in that, come back with you.
00:19:14.200 This is fascinating stuff, a preview and an understanding of how the case against Tyler Robinson will unfold. Human Events Daily, right back.
00:19:22.280 Today, you know, they talk about influences. These are influences. And they're friends of mine. Jack Prasovic. Where's Jack? Jack. He's done a great job.
00:19:34.060 All right, folks, Jack Pacific back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, and we're on with Andrea Burkhart here, and we're talking about Tyler Robinson.
00:19:48.740 So, Andrea, you mentioned before, and you've done such an incredible job on your sub stack of uploading the documents that have been unsealed as they come out again and again.
00:19:59.080 You were the very first to break the preliminary ballistics report, which, of course, has been, you know, has been all over media since you did that.
00:20:08.340 And I just kind of wanted to go through some of that with you, because to your point, we have summaries.
00:20:13.720 We have a good idea of what the the evidence is going to be.
00:20:17.940 We're getting more of that now as certain things are being unsealed.
00:20:21.400 For example, we got this letter, this handwritten letter.
00:20:25.460 It's a photo of a letter that was that was released.
00:20:29.000 I believe it was in one of the unsealed search warrants recently that we had had a reference to in the probable cause document.
00:20:35.840 But now we actually have the full letter.
00:20:38.140 So do you anticipate that more of this evidence is going to be made public as we get closer to the hearing?
00:20:43.100 I do. And that's fairly typical for a criminal case that unfolds in this manner, where you have a really short period of time between a suspect being identified and the suspect being arrested.
00:20:55.460 And that's because a lot of the investigation in those types of cases doesn't really take place until after the charge has been filed.
00:21:03.240 So you have what's public is kind of the initial bare bones of what the prosecution had to get them to that probable cause step.
00:21:13.960 But it's often very far from the end of the story when it comes to the full picture of guilt or innocence of that particular defendant.
00:21:23.000 So it's very, very common to, as the case goes on and more and more information is obtained, that that information starts being brought up through court processes, litigation, and just otherwise makes its way into the public record.
00:21:39.380 right for example because i keep hearing people say oh well there's there's no video of this
00:21:45.740 there's no video of that where's this video where's that video and yet we do see references
00:21:50.680 through these documents and i believe it came up in the in the previous hearing um the most recent
00:21:55.980 hearing that uh that there were other videos of tyler robinson and so the presumption isn't
00:22:02.220 necessarily at this point that all of the video has been released in fact it's that it will be
00:22:07.300 released at the hearing. Yeah. And frankly, even at the hearing, it's likely to just be a portion
00:22:14.320 of what they have. We know from the conversations about discovery that they have somewhere in the
00:22:20.800 ballpark of 24 terabytes of video evidence just from UVU's surveillance cameras alone. They have
00:22:30.180 footage from neighboring ring cameras. It's very common in cases like this as well to do what they
00:22:36.740 call a video canvas. And so they would identify like routes that Tyler Robinson would have taken
00:22:44.920 either because it's a logical route or because they have obtained his location information from
00:22:50.520 his cell phone or from his vehicle and navigation system or something like that. And then go and
00:22:56.280 obtain video evidence from those sources as well. So we can anticipate there is a huge volume of
00:23:03.620 of video evidence that it's in the possession of law enforcement, but simply hasn't been made
00:23:08.760 public because we haven't gotten to that point in this court process yet.
00:23:14.380 And so what, what, what, what, what do you say then to folks? And I saw you kind of going back
00:23:19.620 and forth with a few people who have had these questions to say, well, oh, well, the video
00:23:23.620 hasn't been released yet. Therefore there isn't any video, but ultimately this is the way the
00:23:29.040 system works is kind of, you know, for better or worse, but that's sort of is the answer, right?
00:23:33.620 It absolutely is. I mean, we hold trials in the courtroom, not in the public square. The process needs to be fair to the defendant. And part of that includes having a jury that hasn't already made up their minds because they've already had everything that the parties have vetted in the media.
00:23:56.320 There's obviously a lot that can go on, like we just talked about, between what parties have or
00:24:02.900 what they purport to have versus what ultimately gets presented to a jury. Some things may ultimately
00:24:09.140 not be admissible for one reason or another, so it wouldn't be appropriate for the jury to be
00:24:14.260 making a decision based on that type of information. But if it's all out in the public,
00:24:18.300 you can't unring a bell. You can't take that out of your mind once you've been exposed to it.
00:24:23.280 So this is just a fundamental aspect of due process in criminal cases that we preserve these types of issues for the courtroom.
00:24:32.560 And that's reflected in the ethical rules that apply to attorneys when it comes to making statements about cases or sharing information about cases.
00:24:41.080 It's also reflected in this particular case in the gag order that the judge has entered on the attorneys and on the law enforcement investigators precisely for this purpose, to prevent them from sharing information that isn't already being made public through the court process itself.
00:24:58.460 And so we talked a little bit, you said the DNA evidence, obviously that's going to be something that's challenged in a number of ways.
00:25:05.840 They're going to try to chip away at it.
00:25:07.700 But there's more than just DNA evidence here, too.
00:25:10.760 I mean, there there's things like fingerprints, which is a much more much more traditional form of identification.
00:25:18.700 And ultimately, and I just keep coming back to this, it's going to be that role of the parents, the family members and his significant other who apparently are going to be testifying in this upcoming hearing.
00:25:31.280 I mean, that to me isn't something that that you see a lot in these types of cases.
00:25:35.500 You definitely don't. And it's extremely powerfully persuasive evidence, just because people can look at their own experiences, their own kind of common sense, and what would I do in this type of situation?
00:25:50.820 And I think most people can relate to having a child. You would probably believe almost anything to avoid reaching the conclusion that your child was capable of committing a crime like this.
00:26:06.980 And so to be in a position where the parents apparently are so deeply persuaded, where the significant other is so deeply persuaded that they would present that information to law enforcement, that they would assist him in involuntarily surrendering for criminal prosecution.
00:26:24.400 You're right. This is not the type of thing that you see in everyday cases.
00:26:29.440 And it is likely to be, I think, particularly persuasive.
00:26:33.660 no i i just i keep coming back to it and and when people bring up you know you'll you know this thing
00:26:40.700 or that thing and then and sure there's there's going to be a lot of that as you meant as you say
00:26:45.060 the chipping around the edges that there are these huge factors that you really can't get around and
00:26:50.240 it's gonna be very tough to try to convince a jury otherwise when you have someone's own mother and
00:26:57.020 father saying what they're going to say and and we'll see of course certainly the the hearing is
00:27:02.060 yet to come. One more segment with Andrea Burkhart right after this break. Jack Posobiec from Events
00:27:08.280 Daily. And Jack, where is Jack? Where is Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.
00:27:19.360 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're
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00:29:13.000 We're on with Andrew Burkhart, our final segment here.
00:29:15.900 Andrew, I want to ask you, so we have this upcoming,
00:29:17.800 mean, it's a WebEx hearing, so it's not the full court hearing, but Judge Graff is expected to make
00:29:24.780 a couple of rulings here on May 8th, one regarding cameras in the courtroom and then another
00:29:31.780 regarding a potential delay of the preliminary hearing. I'll let you take it in whatever order
00:29:37.840 you prefer, but what do you think we should expect out of this upcoming set of rulings?
00:29:42.960 so first off the timing of the preliminary hearing uh this is an issue that's going to be
00:29:50.440 of critical importance to the parties that are appearing before that court of course if the
00:29:54.780 the preliminary hearing is going to go forward as it's currently scheduled which is i believe in the
00:29:59.060 third week of may uh they need to know that right away they have witnesses that they would need to
00:30:03.580 get under subpoena they they need to make travel arrangements uh do do all of those types of
00:30:08.140 preparations. So I expect a prompt and rapid ruling from the court on that particular issue.
00:30:15.520 I am not expecting, just based on his questions and the arguments that were presented at the last
00:30:24.720 hearing where these issues were argued, I'm not expecting him to continue the preliminary hearing.
00:30:30.380 He made a comment to the parties to the effect of keep your foot on the accelerator, which tends
00:30:37.000 to suggest a need to continue moving forward in the expectation of a rapid hearing. The more,
00:30:45.800 I think, intriguing and bigger picture question is the one about the cameras in the courtroom.
00:30:51.200 This has, of course, been a issue that the defense has litigated quite extensively and just a variety
00:30:59.340 of different contexts and arguments that have been raised. They don't want this case receiving
00:31:05.540 the type of publicity that it has. And in one instance, even decided to name drop our show,
00:31:12.960 Human Events, because we have been pushing so hard, you know, so ardently and wrote this open
00:31:17.820 letter where we were pushing for cameras in the courtroom. And I think we kind of got the ball
00:31:22.800 rolling on a lot of this and it really didn't seem to like that. So they named, name checked
00:31:28.220 us in court a couple of hearings ago. Yeah, they did. And they have been presenting just a vast
00:31:35.500 volume of information about the kinds of commentary that is going on. They focus primarily
00:31:42.760 on the mainstream, but they have also talked about podcasters and they've referenced some
00:31:50.660 conspiracy theories and things like that. So by and large, what the defense really doesn't seem
00:31:57.760 to like is frankly just the interest in the case, the commentary about it, the fact that
00:32:03.220 People are discussing it and have opinions about it. And so they made what I think would be a particularly strong case for, you know, that public commentary can be damaging to Tyler Robinson's right to a fair trial.
00:32:20.060 But the problem, of course, is that the First Amendment right that we all enjoy to be able to not just see what is happening in our courtrooms, which is itself protected by the First Amendment, but of course, to talk about it and to discuss it and to say what we think about it and whether we think it's right or wrong or things need to be changed.
00:32:38.720 So there's no real viable way to stop that from happening.
00:32:43.460 And I think the problem the defense faces with this particular argument is that what
00:32:48.240 they're trying to ban is just the raw feed of the courtroom proceeding that's happening,
00:32:53.980 our ability to be able to see what's going on in these court hearings as if we were sitting
00:32:58.560 there in that courtroom ourselves.
00:32:59.980 And that's just purely factual information that has, frankly, a better chance of alleviating
00:33:08.240 a lot of the misinformation about the case than eliminating the cameras would have.
00:33:13.620 So I think they face a real uphill battle, not just because of these important First
00:33:18.120 Amendment implications, but also because Utah itself is probably the most favorable
00:33:23.920 state in the country when it comes to having cameras in the courtroom for precisely this
00:33:30.540 reason. Transparency breeds trust in the process, and it allows us to accept the integrity or to
00:33:41.780 at least see for ourselves if there are issues that we're concerned about. If this is all
00:33:46.740 happening behind closed doors, then that is a breeding ground for distrust.
00:33:52.300 Well, and of course, I was commenting on your stream as they mentioned this in the last hearing
00:33:59.500 where ultimately the defenses, our arguments over and over and over weren't actually about
00:34:07.020 the live stream. They were just about people's comments following the live stream or people's
00:34:13.360 opinions on the live stream, none of which the live stream causes. So you could have a live
00:34:20.080 stream of a trial, which is something obviously that I've been calling for and Erica has called
00:34:25.160 for and so many others, but that doesn't determine what someone's opinion is. And honestly, that's
00:34:31.380 also not the job of the court. So the idea that a judge is going to rule on this because people
00:34:37.220 are having comments about a case, you know, this is the United States. We just don't do that here.
00:34:42.740 We don't. And I mean, the reality is that people are going to talk about the case anyway. And so
00:34:47.420 would we rather they be talking about legitimate information or talking about, you know, opinions
00:34:54.000 that they have based on what they heard from somebody who heard from somebody who watched
00:34:58.400 something on YouTube somewhere. This is what makes us informed citizens and gives us the tools and
00:35:07.140 the information that we need to be able to exercise our independent judgment about what's
00:35:11.980 happening in the courtroom and whether we think it's producing a just result or not.
00:35:17.000 Well, and by the way, I would point out that there are other countries like the UK, for example,
00:35:21.620 And the president just had the king here yesterday.
00:35:26.280 I think he might still be here, actually, which are very different in terms of this.
00:35:30.920 And they do actually have limits on the public commentary on cases, which include even naming
00:35:35.920 victims or, in some cases, naming perpetrators is completely illegal.
00:35:41.080 So they have a completely different tradition than the United States under their law.
00:35:45.540 It's actually something that makes us quite unique.
00:35:48.160 Very much so.
00:35:49.120 And it all, again, goes back to that First Amendment. The First Amendment right to petition the government for grievances, for redress of grievances, is what underlies many, many court decisions coming out of the U.S. Supreme Court, as well as the various circuit courts of appeal that hold that that right is what protects our ability to sit in a criminal court and watch what is going on.
00:36:13.860 Because the criminal court process, it's such an important part of our government, and it often gets overlooked in favor of Congress or governors or things like that.
00:36:28.060 But the criminal justice system, it's actions that are done in our name.
00:36:33.400 They affect us most directly in terms of the deprivations of liberty, of property, and so forth.
00:36:39.960 And they implicate us because they bring us in as jurors to decide what is justice in a particular case.
00:36:48.660 So just to sum up, it's extremely important that that we have the ability to continue to monitor that and to be heard about whether the system is working the way it's supposed to.
00:36:59.960 Couldn't agree. Couldn't agree more. My wife commented to me once. We were watching a trial a couple of years ago, and she was born in the Soviet Union before she came to the United States. And she said, I can't believe they let you do all this. I can't believe that you have a system like this because she's been in a place where they don't have a system like this.
00:37:20.340 Andrew Burkhart, incredible wealth of knowledge. So honored to have you on. Where can people go to follow you and get smarter on this and so many other things?
00:37:27.840 So you can find me, as you mentioned, on Substack.
00:37:31.000 It's andreaburkhart.substack.com.
00:37:33.560 That is where I maintain the legal archive of the documents in this particular case that I collect.
00:37:39.460 You can also find me on YouTube and on Twitter.
00:37:42.980 My handle is at aburkhartlaw, or you can just put in my name, Andrea Burkhart,
00:37:47.060 and you'll find me where I'm live streaming the hearings in the Tyler Robinson case
00:37:51.660 and offering commentary as the situation develops.
00:37:57.080 In other cases, she's great on other stuff.
00:37:59.460 If there's something going on in another case, give her a follow.
00:38:01.940 You will like what you have.
00:38:04.500 Right back, Human Events Daily.
00:38:06.140 So we're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:38:09.180 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential
00:38:13.440 nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:38:15.160 And that is, I'll be honest.
00:38:22.880 All right, folks, we're back.
00:38:23.940 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:38:28.000 Very excited, by the way.
00:38:29.020 So we know America's 250th is coming up.
00:38:32.060 We're just a couple of months away.
00:38:33.560 We're in the year.
00:38:34.740 July 4th is coming.
00:38:36.440 And what better way, especially if you've got young kids like I do, what better way
00:38:40.760 to get them into the spirit of the 250th, the new patriotic, not just book, but book
00:38:48.520 series, mini series, I guess you could say, coming out.
00:38:51.760 And the first one is going to be by Kirk Cameron.
00:38:54.560 He joins us now.
00:38:55.260 Kirk, how are you?
00:38:56.740 Hey, Jack, I'm doing so good.
00:38:58.000 Thank you, man, for having me back on Human Events.
00:39:00.780 And yeah, this is so exciting.
00:39:03.640 It's America's 250th.
00:39:04.880 And I couldn't help but hear you talk in the last segment
00:39:07.780 about how much your wife appreciates America.
00:39:10.880 Like, they let you do that stuff here.
00:39:12.080 Like, I can't believe you guys have this kind of freedom.
00:39:15.040 And the crazy thing is, so many people are in other countries.
00:39:18.020 You know that she is very, you know, Tanya, and you've met my kids, too.
00:39:20.920 And you know that she's very, very genuine when she says that.
00:39:24.380 Right. And so many people from other countries are so genuine in their appreciation for the freedoms that we have in America because they know what it's like when you don't have them.
00:39:34.720 And young kids today are being raised to be embarrassed or to be ashamed and not proud of and not appreciate America, which is insane to me.
00:39:43.880 And so this is an opportunity that we have to fight back against the extreme leftist narrative that's teaching kids to hate America and teach them to love America and to know why they love America again.
00:39:58.080 So this is cool. So Built by the Brave, it's Brave Books and this is your, you know, continue your partnership with them.
00:40:04.900 But it's it's a new series in terms of a new continuity where there's new characters.
00:40:09.120 It's set, you know, not in the fictional fantasy Freedom Island universe, but it's set right here in the U.S. of A.
00:40:15.600 And I believe it's kind of a time travel series, a little sci-fi action.
00:40:19.180 Yeah, that's exactly right. Kids are going to love it. It's so cool.
00:40:22.540 And actually, Dr. Ben Carson, Riley Gaines and I have teamed up.
00:40:27.240 We're sort of like the dynamic trio who have each put out a book and we've got signed copies of them.
00:40:32.840 Mine is called Built by the Brave, and it's about a little kid named Eli who thinks history
00:40:37.140 is boring until somebody, his name is Liberty Man, on the Monument to the Forefathers, which
00:40:43.880 I've talked about so much and traveled around teaching about, you've seen it, he comes to
00:40:48.400 life and he takes little Eli in a time travel capsule to some of the most daring adventures
00:40:54.940 in American history, to the stormy voyage on the Mayflower with the pilgrims, to the
00:41:01.040 battle at Lexington Concord. And he learns that bravery is not the absence of fear. It's the
00:41:07.720 conquering of it. And that America was not built by perfect people, just courageous ones. And Dr.
00:41:14.540 Carson's talking about America built on faith. And Riley Gaines is teaching kids one, two, three,
00:41:19.220 we are free. So it's a super cool series. It's called the America Wins Bundle. And this is how
00:41:25.540 we take back the narrative. Inside the home, reading to your kids where the real battle is
00:41:31.380 fought. And that's so amazing because, you know, we're always looking, especially for me, you know,
00:41:39.120 and we've done the library events and you got to be really careful. You got to be so careful because
00:41:44.340 you take your kids out and you say, oh, just, it's not like it used to be when I was a kid.
00:41:49.180 And my mom would just take me to the library and say, hey, have at it and go for it because now
00:41:54.020 you're perusing the shelves and it's you know it's anti-racist baby and lgbt this and everything
00:42:00.420 and they put them in the kids section on purpose that's why it's so important to get there ahead
00:42:07.380 of the enemy to say i hate don't get taught about hating your country actually get taught the real
00:42:14.180 history of how great america is how much our forefathers fought to create and to your point
00:42:19.700 The system that we've been talking about, they're trying to tear it down.
00:42:24.240 Yeah.
00:42:24.620 And you're doing such a great job day after day, Jack.
00:42:27.360 Thank you and your family for the commitment and the sacrifice.
00:42:31.020 And I know you do it with joy because it's worth fighting for.
00:42:37.040 You know, kids today have been taught to celebrate Pride Month, right?
00:42:42.020 This is people being proud of the rainbow religion and taught to be ashamed of being
00:42:50.200 an American, the country that actually allows you to do things like have pride mug. 0.89
00:42:56.360 Try that in other countries.
00:42:58.180 Not so much freedom to do that, when in reality, the things that we ought to be ashamed of
00:43:04.480 and the things that we ought to be proud of are being reversed for our kids.
00:43:09.140 And so if we want to straighten them out, we've got to do that, not only through the books that they read, but the music they listen to, the TV shows and the movies that they watch and the education that we give them.
00:43:20.720 So everybody has a part to play. And my role right now is to put these three books into parents' and grandparents' hands.
00:43:27.320 It's called the America Wins Bundle. You can get it at Brave Books or just go to Kirk250.com
00:43:34.300 and you can see all three get a signed copy with little tokens, memorabilia of the accomplishments
00:43:41.380 of Americans, all these cool little things like a Saturn V rocket and a Wright Brothers airplane,
00:43:47.920 along with an American flag and these books. And this is a way you can push back and capture a
00:43:54.320 sense of pride in the hearts of these little young americans in your life and it's so amazing
00:44:00.740 it really is and that's that's one of the i'm glad you mentioned the the space program actually
00:44:05.560 president trump is uh you know he's meeting the artemis crew right now and it's one thing i i love
00:44:10.360 that we're now as a country we're reaching for the stars again we're reaching up we're trying
00:44:16.640 to progress for not you know like not progressive but actual human progress that this is a country
00:44:23.900 And we are, as a people, a group that's just done amazing, incredible feats.
00:44:30.540 We put a man on the moon.
00:44:32.000 We are the ones who created the first airplane.
00:44:35.040 These are incredible things, regardless of where you're from, regardless of what your
00:44:40.500 history is.
00:44:40.940 This is just better for the world that we have done these things.
00:44:44.600 And yet you go into these schools and they teach you to hate the country.
00:44:47.760 They teach you that everything America did was wrong. 0.97
00:44:50.140 George Washington and all the founders are all a bunch of racists. 0.82
00:44:52.940 And, you know, you should just get rid of them and slavery, et cetera, et cetera. 0.98
00:44:57.000 It's all they focus on.
00:44:58.300 They don't want to focus on the good.
00:45:00.380 They don't want to focus on the achievements.
00:45:02.240 They don't want to focus on the things that, yes, we have overcome, but we've overcome them together because we can do this with the unique blessing that we have as this country.
00:45:11.980 And I think if you believe that, you can show people another path forward.
00:45:17.380 I used to, I used to, when I would talk about, you know, after, after we lost Charlie, I
00:45:22.780 would point out that there's, there's sort of like the Charlie Kirk version of America. 0.67
00:45:26.020 And then there's the, the Zora Mandami version of America.
00:45:28.760 And it's interesting because they're similar in age.
00:45:31.600 And, and that one was all about loving your country and building it up.
00:45:36.180 And the other one is all about just hating the country and wanting to tear it down and
00:45:41.500 giving yourself, you know, money from other people's pockets, which is exactly what Mandami
00:45:45.680 is doing right now, by the way.
00:45:46.860 He's like demanding that Albany give him more money because he can't fund his own things.
00:45:50.860 But it's it's it's always done from a place of anger.
00:45:53.820 And I confronted him in the the Oval Office about his little smirk on his face.
00:45:58.120 But he you know, I caught him.
00:46:00.180 I just called him out.
00:46:02.160 I'm so glad that you did.
00:46:03.700 People need to be called out.
00:46:04.940 And we all need a wake up call as citizens and realize that the people who are ultimately
00:46:12.820 responsible to sustain the country, to protect the country, is not the super high up politicians
00:46:21.440 in the White House or in the Pentagon. Thank God for good and godly people who are doing the right
00:46:27.440 thing and appreciate what America is built on. But the real responsibility comes to people like
00:46:33.600 you and me, moms and dads, grandparents, who are raising your children to love what is good,
00:46:38.620 to hate what is evil and fight for what is right. And we should be doing it with joy because we're
00:46:44.540 a very blessed and privileged group of people. So let's, again, like Ronald Reagan said, believe
00:46:51.480 that we have a rendezvous with destiny, that our best days are still ahead of us,
00:46:56.700 that we can be a shining light on a hill again. And to do that, we've got to get back to faith
00:47:01.680 and courage. Kirk, once again, tell us the title of the book, where people can go and get it.
00:47:09.440 Go simply to Kirk250.com.
00:47:13.360 In honor of America's 250th anniversary, go to Kirk250.com and get the America Wins bundle.
00:47:20.400 It's awesome.
00:47:21.300 You'll be so glad you did.
00:47:23.380 All right, Kirk.
00:47:24.200 And I know you are going to be celebrating the 250th.
00:47:26.400 I am too.
00:47:27.620 Thanks so much for being here, man.
00:47:29.280 Thanks, Jack.
00:47:29.960 Take care, you guys.
00:47:31.600 All right.
00:47:32.020 Took us a built by the brand.
00:47:33.260 I got to get my copy of this.
00:47:34.440 I got to talk with our producer.
00:47:36.440 I say, where's my copy?
00:47:37.280 I got kids.
00:47:37.860 I got to teach them to love America.
00:47:39.340 Don't worry, folks.
00:47:39.940 My kids learn about loving America every single day of the week.
00:47:44.980 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission.