This is what happens when the Fourth Turning meets Fifth Generation Warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran Jack Posobiec joins host Jack to discuss all things current events and politics.
00:02:03.820Federal judges in Kansas and Missouri have temporarily blocked President Biden's student loan forgiveness program.
00:02:09.880So the rulings put a pause on the save plan, which allows borrowers whose balances were $12,000 or less to have their debt forgiven after 10 years.
00:02:20.020Special counsel Jack Smith's office is defending his investigators' handling of classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago.
00:02:25.740In a late night filing, the special counsel's office rebuffing Trump's attempts to have the entire case tossed based on the fact that some of the documents are no longer in the order that they were found in.
00:02:39.160WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange free this morning after the U.S. effectively gave up on a long, long effort to put him on trial for revealing secrets and classified material.
00:02:47.580WikiLeaks says Assange left a British prison overnight and boarded a private plane.
00:02:52.700He's accepted a plea deal that would avoid any additional prison time.
00:02:56.320Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live in Washington, D.C.
00:03:09.000Folks, I want to tell you that this book is making people very, very upset out there.
00:03:15.080We've got journalists from the Daily Beast who are very, very upset.
00:03:20.680We had a, I'm trying to just double check, yesterday's monologue, we had a queer socialist journalist who was very upset.
00:03:29.720How dare Jack Posobiec, who served at Guantanamo Bay, who was naval intelligence, worked with pro-Trump groups, including Turning Point and Citizens for Trump, say that he thinks McCarthy didn't go far enough, stop claiming it's hyperbole to say democracy itself is at risk.
00:04:11.420Of course, we're going to make sure that they get their copy, and certainly we know they've got more than enough money to afford it.
00:04:18.820But honestly, folks, when it really comes down to it, all of these people are super upset because our side is winning.
00:04:25.020Our side, by the way, is winning so much that Julian Assange is finally free from prison.
00:04:31.660After 15 years of being behind bars for the crime of doing journalism, he's finally reached a plea deal with the Department of Justice, who's been trying to convict him of his initial WikiLeaks releases about the Iraq War.
00:04:48.440And by the way, lies that were being told about the Iraq War that at the time were being covered up, the death of reporters, the death of journalists, the abject chaos that was going on.
00:05:01.060But we all know the real reason that Assange had charges filed against him.
00:05:05.600The real reason was that he went after Hillary Clinton and told the truth about the Clinton Foundation, told the truth about John Podesta, told the truth about Sidney Blumenthal,
00:05:16.920told the truth about everything that was going on in Ukraine, by the way, prior to anything that happened, prior to Donald Trump getting out.
00:05:25.680And so I just want to say, folks, I just want to remind you, Julian Assange has just entered the 2024 election, and people are freaking out.
00:06:08.920Pennsylvania election integrity coming up next.
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00:08:27.920All right, folks, two guests that I'm very excited, very honored to have on the show today.
00:08:33.800We've got Marlee Hornick, the CEO of United Sovereign Americans, and then we also have Bruce Castor,
00:08:40.660the former Attorney General of the State of Pennsylvania, and someone that I know from Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.
00:08:46.220But you guys may remember representing President Trump in his impeachment, where, by the way, people don't like to say this, but Trump actually won.
00:10:34.260It's supposed to be a place where freedom of conscience is not only allowed, it's embraced and it's celebrated.
00:10:41.980That's the meaning of our Declaration of Independence.
00:10:44.580We're all created beings, and each of us is equal in the eyes of that creator.
00:10:49.520And we have to work hard to act that way as Americans and tolerate each other's perspectives.
00:10:56.180And so fundamentally, this lawsuit that Bruce gratefully understood our arguments, he understood our concerns, and he came up with a way to bring it into the court system, it's totally different than other election litigation.
00:11:39.780But at the bottom line is the elections are not accurate, and they're not compliant with the law.
00:11:45.620And that's the only way that we can really save our country.
00:11:48.840It's to get those back into alignment with the way they're supposed to be done.
00:11:53.240Well, look, we're constantly hearing about how we have to preserve our democracy, preserve our democracy.
00:11:58.360And it sounds like that's what you're trying to do, preserve our democracy, and make sure that the actual people who are attempted to be represented by our elected government are, in fact, being reflected.
00:12:09.680The will of the people is being reflected through the ballot box.
00:12:13.660Obviously, you're very, very familiar and knowledgeable with elections in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
00:12:18.920Can you walk us through some of the details of this lawsuit and the discrepancies that were found therein?
00:12:25.140Yeah, as you mentioned in some of your earlier lead-in, and Marley echoed it, we're approaching it a little bit differently than had been done in the past, because we're not accusing anybody of doing anything wrong.
00:12:44.100We're not saying that there's criminals, we're not saying that there was fraud, we're not saying there's not, either.
00:12:49.700We're simply saying that there is a mechanism that Congress had set aside for determining whether elections are valid, because we all know that any enterprise conducted by people is going to be subject to some small margin of error, even the most careful of human endeavors.
00:13:17.140I mean, you can get as close to perfect as you can.
00:13:20.140And while all of the arguments about the 2020 election were going on, what the media was discussing and what the left was pushing down everyone's throats was that even if all these things are true, you don't have any evidence that it would have changed the outcome of any election in any state.
00:13:45.120And that always bothered me that leaves unsaid the question of, well, okay, but how much error, how many problems do we tolerate in an election before we think the election itself might be not reliable?
00:14:05.120The example that I have been using is if I, if I go and buy a fine mechanical Swiss watch, and it runs a couple of seconds slower fast each day, I think I have a marvel of engineering.
00:14:20.120But if it runs five minutes fast, I send it back because it's no longer reliable, because I don't, I can tolerate a couple of seconds one way or the other, and probably not be late.
00:14:33.120But if it's five minutes a day within a week, now I'm starting to miss appointments, and it's no longer a reliable timepiece.
00:14:40.120So this was in the back of my mind while this conversation was going on.
00:14:46.120And when I ran the impeachment defense, there was a great deal of discussion of whether we were going to use the, the stolen election, the election was stolen as one of our defenses.
00:14:58.120And that was one of the articles of impeachment was that President Trump had claimed that the election was stolen and that somehow rose to a high crime or misdemeanor that warranted his impeachment.
00:15:11.120Nonsense, of course, and that whole thing was nonsense.
00:15:16.120I remember that first day I was ridiculed because I had the audacity to say the only reason we're here is because the, the Democrats in the, in the House of Representatives are afraid to face Donald Trump in an election four years from now.
00:15:38.120And the, the, the conversations that went on between me and the, the legal team and, and President Trump, I argued that we not use the election was stolen.
00:15:51.120Not because I don't think that there's merit to the argument, but because I didn't think we needed it to win and, and that the media had created this, this aura that anyone who advanced that idea was a crackpot.
00:16:04.120And I didn't need to inject that into a case we otherwise were going to win.
00:16:09.120But, um, so I, I, I was skeptical of those types of arguments as unnecessary in vindicating, uh, President, uh, Trump's position.
00:16:21.120So Morley calls me up a couple of months ago and says, could you look at something that we wrote and, uh, see if you might consider representing, uh, our group on this.
00:16:31.120So I'm reading this and they, I come to this section where this precise issue of how much, um, error, how much deviation, um, are we willing to, uh, um, agree to before we consider an election to be invalid.
00:16:50.120So to use that wristwatch example, how many seconds off before you send it back?
00:16:57.120And, um, and I sat up and took notice because that was exactly what I had been thinking, uh, when the media and the left was trying to get convinced all Americans that the real question was, would it have changed the outcome of the election?
00:17:15.120When I thought the real question was, at what point are you no longer confident that you have a reliable election?
00:17:23.120Because you notice how the media never said, and the, and the, the, the left never said that it, um, would or would not have changed the election.
00:17:34.120What they said was there's not enough evidence that it would have changed the election.
00:17:38.120Well, of course, cause you don't know.
00:17:39.120I mean, one of the arguments, not the arguments, the conversations that Morley and Harry, uh, and I have been having is I can't tell you that Congressman so-and-so doesn't deserve to be sitting in that seat.
00:17:51.120What I can tell you is that he doesn't know that either.
00:17:54.120Uh, and the, we're coming up on a, on a quick break, but let's, let's put a quick pause right there because this is, this goes directly to the heart of what you're talking about.
00:18:04.120You're both talking about how do we actually know with certainty who won the election based on the fact that our, we have these low integrity voting systems that can't be audited.
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00:20:06.120I want to send this back to Bruce Castor here because he's walking us through how this lawsuit that they put together in Pennsylvania and working with Marley Hornick is going directly to the heart of how our elections are held.
00:20:21.120And the fact that we don't really have the same level of clarity that we think we do when it comes to the results.
00:20:28.120Bruce, you were just in the middle of making a point when we had to go to break.
00:20:36.120The easiest way to to bring this out to the viewers understanding and attention is we discovered actually discovered sort of the wrong word.
00:20:49.120The, the Department of State, the election officials for Pennsylvania told us that they counted 9100 more votes than there were ballots cast.
00:21:03.120Now, there, there is no question by any definition at all, how it, that is not a, a problem, a mistake, because you simply can't have more votes than there were ballots.
00:21:19.120So that's, there was 9100, a little more than 9100 of those.
00:21:25.120So the Congress, when it passed the Help America Vote Act, it made it a little bit difficult to calculate.
00:21:36.120But along with the, the, the FEC reviewing the, what, what Congress had done, the FEC and Congress came up with a, a strategy for calculating the number of mistakes allowed in a given election before the election is unreliable.
00:21:55.120And that number, which was enshrined in law and then was, um, uh, detailed further by the FEC is one mistake out of every 125,000 ballots cast.
00:22:16.120So you divide a hundred, so, so in order to get the number of errors allowed in any given election, you take the number of ballots cast and divide that by 125,000 and you get the number of errors that the law allows before the election is unreliable.
00:22:36.120Unreliable. In the 2022 election in Pennsylvania, when he divided that 125,000 number into the 5 million and some votes, it came up with, with, um, somewhere between 43 and 44 errors allowed.
00:22:54.440I rounded that up from 43 to 44 because you couldn't have part of a person. So you could have 44 errors.
00:23:04.160So you know that in the, in the, in the case of the over vote, you know, that 9,100 plus more votes were counted than ballots cast. So, you know, right off the top, you have 9,100 plus errors. That's far more than the 44 allowed. So right then, you know, you know, there's something wrong with the election right then your fine Swiss watch is running.
00:23:32.420But what you're minutes late a day and what you're talking about is these are errors that have infiltrated in on a precinct by precinct level. So you're not, this isn't high level. This is actually the lowest possible level to the voter at the precincts where the elections take place, or I should say, where at least they were supposed to take place, uh, before we had the, the drop boxes and the mobile election centers and everything else that, uh, that has now been introduced. Please continue.
00:23:59.700Yeah. It's, it's a wonder we survived all those years without having that stuff. You know, I mean, I remember my dad was, was the judge of election and I used to go and he'd open up the back of the machine, the kind where you click the little thing down and he would write down the numbers. And somehow we managed to survive using that method.
00:24:16.480I don't know why we have to have all this nonsense now, but the, um, the, um, the, the 9,100 plus, uh, votes when you're only allowed to have 44 errors. And we know all 9,100 of those are mistakes. And as you say, at the precinct level, so somebody made counting errors.
00:24:35.720And we're not saying that they're cheating or lying or, or, or trying to favor one candidate or another, but they're clearly errors and it doesn't matter what caused them, they are there. So if you, if you take that 9,100 figure and see how many, how many more than 44 that is, you apply that same level of, um,
00:25:00.620of error, um, of error, um, to the, all of the congressional races in Pennsylvania, and there's 17 or 18 congressmen in Pennsylvania, a full 35% of the congressmen won by a rate smaller than that percentage error, uh, in the, um, the calculation of 44 versus the 9,100.
00:25:30.100In other words, the 35% of the people representing Pennsylvania in the United States House of Representatives cannot be sure that they actually won. And that ought to be concerning to not only to those people, but to their opponents.
00:25:47.880And this is the biggest issue right here. So if we can't actually tell who won, and, and this is what I want to get into next. And, and maybe Marley, you can, you can jump in a little bit here too, because I've got about five minutes left, but the idea is right. So the idea is that you say there is a method that, that Congress can actually trigger to step in here.
00:26:10.860What is that method to get Congress to actually come in and act?
00:26:16.280Well, Congress has the final authority over federal elections, which is important here, not because there's necessarily time for Congress to come step in and fix their laws.
00:26:26.740Uh, but rather it does indicate that the federal government has to have a kill switch here that says, Hey, you know, if a state is running rogue in their election process, we have to be able to oversight that we have to be able to step in and preserve the integrity of the federal government.
00:26:43.120So that's a really important element here, which is that, you know, federalism has its place and the states have the largest say over how their elections are administered, but the federal government has a final word.
00:26:57.260And one of the things that I want to bring up is with the error rate that Bruce is referring to, it's not only did we discover this massive discrepancy between the number of votes counted and the number of voters Pennsylvania has recorded as having participated.
00:27:11.220But a lot of their voters are frankly suspicious and concerning.
00:27:17.280You had 600,000 people who the state says that they modify the registration before it was created, like according to the dates that are in their official data for each one of these records.
00:27:31.460You have people like, I think about 400,000 people who were registered to vote before they were born.
00:27:38.400These are not list maintenance issues.
00:27:41.520They indicate that there is a fundamental break in the control process of adding voters to the registration list.
00:27:49.760And this, I know a lot of people across America are really worried about this because people are concerned that non-citizens are going to get added to the registration list and qualify for ballots.
00:28:00.160So one of the things that United Sovereign Americans is highlighting in this lawsuit and in the Maryland lawsuit that we filed in March and the lawsuits that are coming is the control process for vetting and validating citizens as eligible, qualified United States citizen voters is broken.
00:28:20.960And one of the things that states are, or Pennsylvania is being required to fix in this mandamus or asked to fix in this mandamus is how do they qualify voters?
00:28:32.780Why are people getting added to the list when it says that they were registered to vote on their date of birth?
00:28:41.360That's more civic enthusiasm than is plausible under the law.
00:28:46.720And meanwhile, the state counted over a million votes from these facially invalid registrations.
00:28:54.260And going back to Bruce's point, this is not about whether the outcome is correct or not correct, whether we can definitively say that, you know, this race was improper.
00:29:35.800And we're living with the uncertainty.
00:29:37.720And, frankly, we may be living with representatives who are representing private interests, not the will of the American people.
00:29:45.860And I think that's what, fundamentally, people are feeling concerned about all over, no matter, regardless of political party or candidate.
00:29:53.320Marlee, real quick, just one minute left.
00:29:56.880Tell us where people can go to get more information.
00:30:34.580All right, guys, we'll be right back with this very special guest, Michael Seifert, with new information on Levi Strauss coming up when we return.
00:31:18.940Economic integrity means having the integrity of taking your money and spending it with people who actually care about and support your values.
00:31:33.700And I haven't talked about this as something that we directly explain is a way to fight back against the system is to stop funding the system.
00:31:43.260And you've got to find companies and you've got to find partners who either either they're for our values or, by the way, they're just nonpolitical.
00:31:50.120They don't want to fund the left or be like the Miss Rachel introducing the he-hims and the she-hers onto your show and saying, oh, we're going to learn about the ABCs.
00:32:00.840And, oh, by the way, here's my non-gender binary fluidity friend to tell you all about it.
00:32:05.500So it would be amazing if someone could create a system for us to actually learn about where all these companies are.
00:32:14.740Well, so you've got, and I believe this is a Human Events exclusive because we haven't quite seen this yet.
00:32:26.020What's going on, man, with Levi Strauss?
00:32:30.780Well, it's another story of a great American company that has fallen victim at the corporate level to woke activists that have hijacked the company,
00:32:39.960have swayed it from its original intentions, and are now donating hard-earned profits to far-left causes.
00:32:46.300It's an election year, so we're obviously all aware that we need to show up at the ballots and actually vote our values.
00:32:51.640But you need to also recognize that you wield incredible power in your wallet.
00:32:55.140And when you support a company like Levi's, here's what they do with your money.
00:32:58.860They actually take about $10 million of it a year and dump it into efforts that are focused on turning your kids transgender.
00:33:05.800In fact, the Kentucky Health Justice Network, which provides gender-affirming care to kids in Kentucky,
00:33:12.900one of their largest recipients is the Levi Strauss Foundation.
00:33:16.400Pro-abortion groups across the nation that are focusing on radical abortion measures
00:33:20.880and trying to make that a main focus of this campaign this fall at the ballot box is funded by Levi Strauss Foundation.
00:33:28.140On top of that, the Anti-Terror Police Project in Oakland.
00:33:31.380Oakland is one of those great former American cities that has been completely decimated by high crime, homelessness,