Jack Posobiec is a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, NPR, and other media outlets. He is also the host of the Human Events Daily podcast.
00:09:40.660OK, folks, just to give you a little bit of the traffic schedule here.
00:09:44.400So President Trump, if you understand where I'm standing, this is the World Economic Forum.
00:09:49.860This is the atrium. This is right here where the annual meeting is held.
00:09:52.900Congress Hall, so where President Trump spoke, is right over here to my left.
00:09:56.640And President Trump, where he's holding those bilateral meetings, is just down the hallway over here.
00:10:00.960So you've seen a number of the meetings. He's conducting them right now.
00:10:03.800I believe he's in a NATO meeting. He, of course, met with the head of Switzerland.
00:10:07.440He met with with LCC of Egypt just before the show began.
00:10:12.740Chancellor Mertz of Germany just walked by. He was kind of holding court.
00:10:16.240Gavin Newsom has been running around. President Trump is expected to make a to come around this corner here any minute now.
00:10:25.400And so we've got a secondary camera that's set up over there.
00:10:27.760We'll go live to that when it happens to see if he is taking questions, to see if he's addressing anyone.
00:10:33.520But as that is coming forward, I wanted to bring on for some commentary, our good friend here on the podcast on Human Events Daily, Oren McIntyre of The Blaze and The Oren McIntyre Show.
00:10:49.940So, Oren, one of my favorite things, and I think some of your work can be really, really helpful here, is so President Trump comes in and he just looks at Greenland on the map and says, I want to buy that.
00:11:01.840And it's it's so incredible because this is sort of like the old version of statecraft.
00:11:08.160You know, we're talking Monroe Doctrine, Dunro Doctrine.
00:11:10.620It's almost an 18th, 19th century type of statecraft.
00:11:14.060But here at the World Economic Forum, the Danes refused to even come.
00:11:19.000The Ursula von der Leyen, so many people, Mark Carney, by the way, attacked Trump and then refused to even be in the building, in the room.
00:11:26.060He flew back to Canada before Trump even spoke.
00:11:28.680it drove them absolutely nuts because he's not playing with their system he's not going along
00:11:36.500with their world order and by the way mark carney of canada actually admitted keep in mind this is
00:11:41.760the former chief that ran the chief bank uh central bank of canada and the central bank of england as
00:11:46.940well as being the u.n climates are which he tries to doesn't try to remind people he said he actually
00:11:51.780admitted that there was a world order and he says but that order is passed because of trump and the
00:11:57.060rise of autocracies and i'm like i'm gonna go i said mark what did you just say about this world
00:12:01.420order that apparently we were all members of but you were we were told it was a conspiracy theory
00:12:06.220to even bring it up or and i love you can just break down this this total mismatch here
00:12:11.520yeah we love to hear about the rules-based international order or you know these different
00:12:17.960global governance initiatives but what could any of those words be other than a synonym for
00:12:23.000a new world order, for a global government. That's exactly what the guys at WEF and many
00:12:28.120of these other organizations think that they are ultimately creating. And for a long time,
00:12:33.540American presidents fell in line with that understanding, in many cases, believing that
00:12:37.640they were actually at the head of this thing. But ultimately, we know that these organizations
00:12:41.820are going to take on lives of their own and drive their own interests. And so it's become very passe
00:12:46.320for world leaders to acknowledge that their nations do have specific interests and that
00:12:51.080they're acting in those interests now of course china russia these other countries they don't care
00:12:56.280yes they'll play the game they'll use the different language but they're fighting for their own
00:13:00.520interests they're looking to capture natural resources they want to increase their military
00:13:04.520presence and their influence and all of these european nations are just playing along with that
00:13:09.720because it allows them to avoid having their own military or taking any real risks with what they're
00:13:15.160doing but ultimately donald trump realizes that this will lose america's sovereignty so he's
00:13:19.740pushing back against this, and this disrupts everything that they believe. He's willing to
00:13:23.520take nationalist economic policies, willing to say, yes, I am specifically tariffing other countries
00:13:28.520because I want what's best for us. Yes, I am willing to negotiate and push for expansions
00:13:33.820in territory because I think they will economically benefit us, and I think if we don't do it,
00:13:38.060other great powers will. Now, you might have differences of opinion on any given action,
00:13:42.480but this is a stance that is decidedly pro-American in a way that we have not seen in a very long
00:13:47.720time i think it's very refreshing for americans to see that kind of leadership it also is very
00:13:52.520off-putting and in many cases terrifying to the global world order because they recognize that
00:13:56.740without the united states playing along they lose a lot of legitimacy well they clearly do and
00:14:03.660ultimately it's always the united states that has to foot most of the bill for all of these
00:14:08.100organizations the united nations for nato for many world economic foreign programs it's all coming
00:14:13.900from U.S. dollars. And President Trump comes in realizing that he actually does have the leverage
00:14:20.220here, not them. Actually, one funny aside is that when Trump was on stage, he said something about,
00:14:26.120oh, I'm going to be meeting Zelensky later today. Apparently, one of the things that I'm hearing is
00:14:30.100that Zelensky wasn't in Switzerland, wasn't even in the country, wasn't even planning to come,
00:14:36.800and then hears Trump's speech and realizes he has to hop a plane and now come, or else he's going to
00:14:41.620be snubbing the president of the United States. It's so refreshing to see an American leader
00:14:46.020actually use America's leverage and to do so in ways that benefit the United States
00:14:52.220of America. But I suppose, Arne, the question I have then is, for so many of these examples,
00:14:56.900you look at the Venezuela raid, you look at Greenland, Panama Canal talk, changing of
00:15:02.420the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. I mean, isn't everything that Trump is doing
00:15:07.520breaking international law? Doesn't this mean that he could run the risk of being arrested by
00:15:12.620the world international police? Yeah, that is an absolutely adorable storyline that we hear over
00:15:18.420and over again. But of course, it's a absolute fantasy. There is no such thing as international
00:15:22.320law. That's not how sovereignty works. And that's not how laws work. Laws only mean something if
00:15:27.460they are enforced by a sovereign power. There must be a power behind that law capable of enforcing
00:15:32.020that law. And without that, the law means absolutely nothing. So an international law
00:15:36.720would require an international body to enforce it other words it would require a uh one world
00:15:42.340government a a multinational government that would reach in and somehow punish donald trump for what
00:15:47.980he's doing but of course that does not exist at all that doesn't mean that donald trump should
00:15:51.520just go around making bad decisions or just being abusive for the heck of it but i think what donald
00:15:56.960trump is revealing to the world is that ultimately this idea that they are somehow participatory in
00:16:03.040the understanding of America's interests is being discarded. America decides America's
00:16:07.580interests. You can't cage that. And if you want to fight back against that, you need to have some
00:16:11.700kind of substantive power. It's been adorable to watch different countries deploy, you know,
00:16:16.380five, 10, 15 troops to Greenland and then talk about how they're going to fire first on American
00:16:21.380soldiers if we decide to invade. The truth is that NATO is a complete joke without the United
00:16:26.840States. It only exists because of the United States and the chance that they could repel
00:16:30.760the united states if it attempted to use force at any moment is an absolute you know just hysterical
00:16:35.980a lie but they need to believe this they need to look tough they can't be honest that they've
00:16:41.140basically turned over their sovereignty to these organizations at the end of the day
00:16:44.980because their people still want to believe that they're somehow sovereign nations the difference
00:16:49.060is that the united states has the ability to be a real sovereign nation because we have
00:16:53.280the power we have the authority we can enforce our own rules now we haven't been acting like
00:16:58.500a sovereign nation for a very long time. And as much as Trump has been pushing back,
00:17:02.240there are still ways in which our sovereignty is impeded. So I'm glad to see him making those
00:17:06.360bold statements, but I also would like to see him continue to push to end these global commitments.
00:17:11.480We don't need these people. They need us. Trump is aware of that, which is very important. That
00:17:15.640puts him in a great bargaining position. But at the end of the day, we're not going to have Trump
00:17:18.880forever. And I would like to see him start to wind down some of these relationships so that in the
00:17:23.740future America is not committed to this absolute charade of global governance that's exactly right
00:17:31.800and you know perhaps you are starting to see you know different um different things pop up this
00:17:36.880the board of peace uh supposedly is going to be having this uh signing tomorrow regarding Gaza
00:17:41.740we're also hearing that that Belarus is coming in so looking forward probably the way I read that
00:17:46.980is that that's looking forward to an end of the Ukraine war situation they'll want to bring in
00:17:51.540some of the local, the central Eastern European nations to talk about that, that have those
00:17:56.540relationships with Russia. And you also saw Alexander Stubb, the president of Finland,
00:18:01.280came out yesterday, right here on the stage behind me and said, well, we don't need NATO
00:18:05.200and Europe can defend itself even without them. To which I replied on Twitter, it's going pretty
00:18:10.480viral. But I said, I said, great, absolutely. Have at it, Finland. Have at it. You guys are
00:18:16.500more than welcome to do so. We're going to go deal with the Somali invasion in Minneapolis.1.00
00:18:21.660We're going to go deal with all the stuff that's happening in our country. You guys got it. I love1.00
00:18:26.200that. Please go right ahead. And I think you're going to see so many more people latch on to that.
00:18:32.520And I agree with you that these commitments do need to be looked at. Look, I remember President
00:18:36.560Trump all the way back in 2016. This was one of the very first reasons that the deep state,
00:18:41.820permanent state really targeted trump because he was questioning why do we still have nato
00:18:47.740even all these years after the fall of the soviet union arne mcintyre on with jack
00:18:53.180bosovic we're live davos switzerland human events daily stay tuned for right back president trump
00:18:58.300coming out soon you talk about influences these are influences and uh they're friends of mine
00:19:08.940All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back live here on the ground, Davos, Switzerland, World Economic Forum, as you can see behind me.
00:19:27.160And yes, to be clear, I have not eaten the bugs, not even that we had some comments in during the break.
00:19:32.900They said, did you eat any crickets? No, I have not eaten any of the crickets.
00:19:36.540It's I do want to ask, you know, you know, folks in check, if I have just one, does that count?
00:19:41.380You know, or if I just try it, what if it's just a leg?
00:19:47.320And, you know, we're talking about these differences between between sovereignty.
00:19:50.860We also see the federal sovereignty in the United States being challenged by mayors and governors and the same situation.
00:19:58.560They just don't have the power to be able to fight back.
00:20:00.840President Trump, by the way, and actually, maybe I should even ask you this question.
00:20:03.760And President Trump made a very strong statement about the Somali community in the United States.
00:20:09.660But I think reading between the lines, he was definitely applying it to Europe as well, saying, guys, we are the inheritors of Western civilization.
00:20:19.560And if we don't defend Western civilization, then we will lose it.0.76
00:20:24.140And he made this statement that the West cannot bring in, in mass numbers, foreigners from foreign cultures who –
00:20:32.880Now, he did not use the word compatible, but he said cultures from countries that have completely failed on their own, not successful.
00:20:40.020He's really making those civilizational type type arguments.
00:20:44.520Now, I don't personally think that he's going to find a lot of a lot of purchase with that comment here in this room outside of maybe the president of Poland,
00:20:53.420who was here. But writ large, we are starting to see this in Europe as the rise of many of
00:20:59.240the right-wing parties is really predicated on this issue of remigration.
00:21:05.400Yeah, we've already seen Germany have to basically try to ban the AFD there. We've seen in the UK
00:21:10.760the attempts to censor speech that is trying to address the immigration issue. And President Trump
00:21:16.480is exactly right to highlight that what's going on in Minnesota right now is simply a microcosm
00:21:22.020of the larger issue that is attacking the West in its entirety, people not being willing to
00:21:26.860address the fact that people from different cultures, from incompatible cultures, cultures1.00
00:21:30.760that absolutely are a failure by our standards, they simply cannot move here and then magically1.00
00:21:35.860become part of our civilization. I think it's very obvious to many people now that that's the
00:21:42.120case. It's a growing sentiment across the West, even in these European nations that denied it for
00:21:46.500so long and action has to be taken the absolute magnitude of the different populist movements
00:21:53.640that have forced the way through these different European countries in spite of their leadership
00:21:57.920just shows you how desperately people want to return to sanity when it comes to immigration
00:22:03.400most people are okay with some level of immigration but they want it to be people
00:22:06.900who already are very compatible who are going to go ahead and contribute to their nation they
00:22:12.340don't want people who are going to come in immediately try to change change it or become
00:22:15.600into financial drain on it, be violent. All of these things become clannish, tribal, all of this
00:22:21.240stuff. We see this pattern repeating over and over again. Europe has gone through a different type of
00:22:27.320socialization. They have created societies where identity is very different than it is in these
00:22:32.460classic tribal societies in the Middle East or North Africa. And the same is true in the United0.86
00:22:37.840States. We carry that identity over. So when you import a bunch of people who never went through
00:22:42.640this process who never shared those ideas who never had that heritage or that tradition they
00:22:47.800simply cannot do it they will not compete based on merit they will not conform to the understandings0.97
00:22:54.200of the society they're now in they will continue their tribal and clannish behavior in which they0.94
00:22:58.200defend and are basically completely ethnocentric inside their own ghettos their own ethnic ghettos0.76
00:23:04.180we're all tired of this and of course this is not like you said not going to receive any big
00:23:09.340applause from world leaders because they're all on board with this project but trump is done and
00:23:14.400we're very excited in the united states to see what's happening in minnesota the fact the
00:23:18.900administration is not backing down despite the less terrorism their attempt the media's attempt
00:23:23.220to spin things and and put out propaganda they continue their deportations they are not backing
00:23:28.760down in fact we're even getting i don't know if this is this has been confirmed yet but we're
00:23:32.580seeing possible reports that even uh military mp units might be deployed into minnesota uh so
00:23:39.060they're continuing to increase the law enforcement presence not decrease it and i'm very very glad
00:23:44.520that trump is making that a issue that all european leaders have to deal with because again
00:23:48.700their populations do not want this this is something that is engineered top down in these
00:23:53.740type of global summits not something that the people of europe or the united states are asking
00:23:57.580for that's exactly right and the fact that the fact of the matter is that look you know i've
00:24:04.600been doing this talking about these issues for a decade at this point um one of the very first
00:24:09.760international documentaries i did was up in we called it the rape of sweden you know just north
00:24:14.800of where i am now uh we went into malmo sweden and we were talking about all of these issues
00:24:19.260and at back then it was considered a conspiracy theory it was hate speech our uh our documentary
00:24:25.280of course was banned on youtube and and everywhere else now we've come so far that the president of
00:24:31.120the United States, within the well of the World Economic Forum, is talking about these very
00:24:37.180issues. It's been quite a journey. It's all in this issue, I really have to say.
00:24:41.440Yeah, it's one of those scenarios where just a few years ago, it was entirely believable that
00:24:45.880you would be banned from social media, you would lose platforms, you would be persona non grata
00:24:50.460inside the Republican Party. And Donald Trump has changed that wildly. He's embraced the arguments
00:24:55.140of guys like Pat Buchanan and Paul Gottfried and all of these other paleo conservatives who
00:25:00.820saw what was coming guys like sam francis he recognizes the same problem that they recognized
00:25:06.420and he has the same base of support ultimately this is civilizational suicide anyone who's
00:25:12.600looking around at the world and what is happening can obviously see that and i'm very glad that the
00:25:17.900administration is recognizing that and doing everything they can to push back we've already
00:25:21.980seen illegal immigration basically entirely shut down in the united states that in itself
00:25:26.980is a miracle we were told they had to pass all these bills and do all this crazy stuff that make
00:25:31.660that happen it turns out if you just give the president a free hand and some funding for ice
00:25:36.940he was able to solve that problem almost immediately we're also hearing that the
00:25:40.660administration is expecting to cut legal immigration as much as 50 percent by the end
00:25:45.720of his term i know for some people that's not as much as they wanted but you have to understand
00:25:50.960where we came from like you said people like us have been talking about this for a very long time
00:25:55.380In many cases, it got us completely removed from the public conversation.
00:29:10.620Drink coffee that tastes incredible because every sip should feel like a win.
00:29:14.420All right, folks, we're waiting for President Trump. I'm going to take a look back again here. He's not yet come. I see people, you know, waiting. He's weaving in there. Whatever meeting he's in, he's doing the weave. He's definitely doing the weave. I'm told that he's meeting with the NATO Secretary General right now, so we'll see what comes out of that. But I wanted to bring in Will Chamberlain here from the Article III project. Will, how are you?
00:29:41.420So, well, I've got to play some footage for you that I recorded just a couple hours ago, myself, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom.
00:29:52.420It's amazing. It's a remarkable success.
00:29:59.420Governor Newsom, you don't remember me. I'm friends with Charlie. I was friends, obviously, as you know. I always appreciate your interview. Quick question. You mentioned Minneapolis. Any comment on this Don Lemon charging those guys into the church like that?
00:30:15.180I literally, it's funny. Someone mentioned Don Lemon and Trump the other day. And so I have no idea what that's about.
00:30:21.460It's a big viral story. He had a bunch of agitators. They ran into some kind of church. Don Lemon.
00:30:27.100into a church yes even focus on this no it's not even at this focus literally don't know anything
00:30:33.080about it okay thank you great so that was the uh that was the interview and the question that we
00:30:41.480had there um is security you know kept it polite kept it respectable will i i gotta ask you though
00:30:47.340does his answer pass this mail test with you because a lot of people are saying it doesn't
00:30:51.340pass it for them how does he not know about that i i it's dominated the news cycle he's the governor
00:30:56.520of a major state, I mean, maybe he's tired and jet lagged being in Davos. Like, I don't know
00:31:01.980why I'm trying to be charitable, but that's weird. It's weird that he doesn't heard about like the
00:31:05.660primary news story of the last three to four days, mass DOJ investigation, Pam Bondi going out there.
00:31:11.260I mean, this is a guy who's nominally on top of current affairs as a governor and he hasn't heard
00:31:15.240about it. That's a little weird. Well, and he was talking about, so you can't see in the video that
00:31:21.740He was conducting a gaggle for about 30 minutes after Trump spoke, and he brought up a Somalian.
00:31:28.140He talked about Minneapolis a number of times because he was responding to different things in President Trump's speech.
00:31:34.000So it strikes me as odd that we'd have the attorney general going to Minneapolis yesterday, putting out these subpoenas, you know, the story dominating the news cycle, and yet not heard of it.
00:31:46.800So, you know, okay, interesting, very interesting.
00:31:49.000Well, I do want to ask you, though, about that regarding regarding Pambani, the attorney general, the subpoenas.
00:31:55.920Look, you and I look, we talked about legal liability from or just we began.
00:32:02.320Remember, this all started with Becca Good and asking whether or not she had legal liability.
00:32:07.120And then you and I had offline and then spilled online a long conversation about other people who face legal liability and really just obstruction of justice.
00:32:16.180Now we're talking FACE Act. We're talking obstruction of civil liberties. Will, have you been able to hear an Article 3 project? Are you tracking at all regarding the subpoenas, regarding this investigation? It's obviously very high profile, and it does seem to be moving very quickly.
00:32:30.640yeah i mean they're they're moving really rapidly on this stuff i mean we have you know subpoenas
00:32:36.720are getting delivered basically what they're trying to do they're trying to uncover evidence
00:32:40.240of underlying conspiring um and aiding and abetting these organizations by the state authorities
00:32:46.160you know and that's what when the left tells you it's like oh there's these these statements they've
00:32:51.120made in public well they're they don't they're not a crime you're allowed to oppose ice it's like
00:32:56.640Like, yeah, but some of these statements at least provide probable cause to investigate further about whether they've explicitly coordinated.
00:33:03.960You know, there was that one statement that Jacob Fry made about how people are asking him to, you know, use the National Guard or have the National Guard oppose or Minneapolis police go out and oppose federal law enforcement.
00:33:18.900So these people have to answer for their conduct here.
00:33:22.100And, you know, if they haven't been coordinating with these agitators, then fine.
00:33:25.100But they, you know, these subpoenas are absolutely justified, given the bizarre way in which both Fry and Waltz have decided to completely abdicate any kind of cooperation with federal law enforcement and seem to be on the side of the people who are obstructing it.
00:33:39.640Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's very strange to me because, you know, so we were just talking with our McIntyre, the previous segment, how President Trump is here.
00:33:50.320He's exercising that American sovereignty on the world stage.
00:33:54.360But at the same time, within the United States, the federal government has federal sovereignty over federal law.
00:34:00.200States do not have any power over federal law, any say whatsoever.
00:34:04.760It's the supremacy clause. Cities certainly don't.
00:34:07.780Yet, Will, it seems that these mayors and governors seem to think that they can just take the law into their own hands.
00:34:15.480I think what's happening is that their default strategy is losing.
00:34:18.880So the default strategy for dealing with federal authority you don't like and federal law enforcement you don't like is to refuse to cooperate, right?
00:34:27.500And there's plenty of federal law explaining – constitutional law, rather – explaining that states don't have to cooperate with federal authorities in enforcing federal law as a general principle.
00:34:37.780They don't have to use their resources to do it because there's a whole doctrine called commandeering.
00:34:43.700The federal government is not allowed to commandeer state governments.
00:34:46.060It's part of respect for their sovereignty.
00:34:47.980But we passed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which means that ICE has infinite law enforcement resources.
00:34:52.920So if local and state authorities won't cooperate with ICE, that's fine.
00:34:56.500We'll just send in thousands of people to your metro area and enforce federal law.
00:35:01.060And so if you want to stop that and you try and do so, then you're violating the law.
00:35:07.320So I think this is sort of this new interesting test case where for years, because we didn't have anything like the One Big Beautiful Bill and this massive amount of funding and resources behind ICE, they were very, very reliant on the cooperation of state and local authorities.
00:35:26.260But if a state or local authority refuses to cooperate, that's fine.0.88
00:35:29.400They'll just send in thousands of people to enforce federal law.
00:35:33.180So I think that the left is now reacting to that very poorly and might well be making some mistakes that verge into criminality.
00:35:40.240Well, and that would just be just totally unprecedented.
00:35:43.700But that being said, for at least federal governments to go after, but it certainly wouldn't be the first time in U.S. history that we've seen this.
00:35:50.560Will, I did want to ask you, though, the reason that I brought that up in relation to Gavin Newsom is, look, we all know that even though there are targeted communities in different parts of the country, like Minneapolis, where we have these issues with the legals, we all know that the number one state in terms of being a flagrant offender of illegal immigration, as well as not working with the federal government, is, of course, Gavin Newsom's California.
00:36:16.420Do you think, and I'll just say I highly suspect that it could very well be that a place like Los Angeles could be the next area where we see a deployment like this?
00:37:00.840It's a good place to sort of try out, you know, figure out what kind of personnel you need, what kind of resources you need.
00:37:05.840If you're going to do this on your own, how exactly you're going to deal with uncooperative authorities, you know,
00:37:11.440Because for so long, even in the first Trump administration, I think that if authorities, local authorities weren't cooperating, there wasn't a lot of deportations happening because they just didn't have the resources to do it.
00:37:20.740And coming up on a quick break, but well, interesting you bring up Pennsylvania because, of course, Josh Shapiro, another potential 2028 nominee, governor of Pennsylvania, but also Pennsylvania has a Republican attorney general who won in 2024, Dave Sunday, in his own right.
00:37:39.340So interesting to see what kind of cooperation we'll see there should Philadelphia be the answer.
00:37:44.680Right back, Jack Posobiec, World Economic Forum, Davos, Switzerland.
00:37:56.360Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.
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00:39:18.100All right, folks, as we've been working on the show here, as we've been live, President Trump, this is probably why he hasn't walked out yet.
00:39:25.440He has just announced via Truth Social, based on a very productive meeting that I've had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Ruta,
00:39:32.260We have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic region.
00:39:38.780The solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations.
00:39:43.120Based on this understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st.
00:39:47.700Additional discussions are being held concerning the Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland.
00:39:52.100Further information will be available as discussions progress.
00:39:55.160Vice President J.D. Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Wyckoff, and various others as needed,
00:40:00.060will be responsible for the negotiations they'll report directly to me thank you for your attention
00:40:04.380to this matter will chamberlain i want to get you on here because you know it's it's it's very
00:40:09.880interesting to me that you know we finally have a president of the united states who is just saying
00:40:14.480you know what screw the neoliberal world order we're just going to do stuff because you can just
00:40:20.580do things yeah uh i mean that's actually carney had an interesting speech on that effect where
00:40:26.600He's like the sort of everybody understands now that the rules-based international order was fake, wasn't real, and that Carney himself was tired of paying lip service to it.
00:40:38.220I don't know that Carney's solution to this problem of getting buddy-buddy with China was a particularly smart one.
00:40:43.540If he understands real politic, he should understand that there's no world in which Canada gets to be an ally of the Chinese government with that type of massive border with the United States.
00:40:54.560That's just not a thing that's going to work for us.
00:40:56.600And we're not going to tolerate it. But his point about the rules-based international order being kind of over is true. I saw a very interesting take on this today, which is, you know, the whole neoliberal order was based on the need to, like, justify your conduct internationally.
00:41:13.860And so it's like the idea is the United States always needs to justify anything it does.
00:41:18.500And there are justifications for Greenland.
00:41:20.800But part of the point of what Trump's doing is saying, no, like this is this is a great power world.
00:41:24.920We don't need to sit here and just we're just going to do it.
00:41:27.100We'll justify it later. We know what we know. We want Greenland.
00:41:30.000We know what's important to our national security. The end. We want Greenland.
00:41:34.840And I think I think it's good. I think it's I mean, the Danes claim on Greenland is sort of ridiculous when you think about it.0.56
00:41:41.980I mean, it's Denmark is in a tiny country, very far away from Greenland.
00:41:49.440And, you know, they're not able to defend it.
00:41:51.320They're a tiny country with what, like 10 million people?
00:41:54.000Greenland should belong to the United States.
00:41:55.740Not only that, by the way, not only that, President Trump made the point.
00:42:00.940I mean, I'm just going to say, folks, if you've been listening to Human Events Daily for the past year when we've talked about Greenland,
00:42:07.000you're going to you are going to recognize a lot of the things that President Trump said.
00:42:10.800He brought up the World War II history, where it was the United States that militarily defended Greenland against the Germans when Denmark itself had fallen to the Wehrmacht, had fallen to Nazi Germany.
00:42:24.080And it was the U.S. that kept German U-boats, kept Germans from landing there, was able to continue to lend lease, and then the air bridge to the U.K. through Greenland.
00:42:32.180That was the United States that did that.
00:42:34.980He also brought up the fact that map break Greenland is, of course, on the on the tectonic plate of North America.
00:42:42.140It is part of the North American continent. It is not part of Europe, even geographically.
00:42:46.720So he's he's just bringing up so many good arguments. But but really, ultimately, the history based argument, I find very strong, especially through World War II claim.
00:42:55.520But and but then gave it back. He said they were stupid to do so.1.00
00:42:58.160But really, I think the strongest argument was the Golden Dome and the idea that any ballistic missile defense of the United States regarding Washington, D.C., it's going to go over the North Pole.0.99
00:43:09.440And if you want sophisticated air defense, you're going to want to put it in Greenland.
00:43:13.900I mean, Will, that's a serious point he's making, and it's completely nonpartisan.
00:43:18.580yeah and there's another point he made i think yesterday which was about what the united
00:43:23.880kingdom decided to do with the chagos archipelago where the diego garcia is we have an extremely
00:43:29.920important military base oh don't even get me started on that don't even get me started on
00:43:34.160that it's it's atrocious what they're doing it's atrocious what the united kingdom is doing and0.99
00:43:38.140the fact that the united kingdom would do that would literally let a chinese engineered icj0.92
00:43:43.740advisory ruling lead them to simply hand over that archipelago to Mauritius, which is a thousand
00:43:50.760miles away. And nobody from Mauritius was ever on the Chagos archipelago, but he just decided,
00:43:55.880oh, we'll just give it to them and then lease it back so the United States can keep their base
00:44:00.360there. Like, what are you doing? And the fact that the UK would do sort of silly stuff like this and
00:44:06.260let themselves be manipulated and the other European countries aren't like, hey, don't do
00:44:10.500that. Don't mess with our ally that way. Don't jeopardize the security of their own military
00:44:16.540base in that fashion. It's just kind of crazy. So when we look at Denmark, what if China manages
00:44:24.040to engineer another ruling that says, oh, Denmark's claim to Greenland is forfeit. And then who are
00:44:29.760we negotiating with? Are we negotiating with Greenlanders? Maybe the Greenlanders were bought1.00
00:44:33.140out by the Chinese. And they're like, no, you've got to close all your military bases or something0.99
00:44:37.120like that. Like none of this is acceptable for the perspective of the United States national
00:44:40.060security. And if the Europeans are going to be feckless allies, like the United Kingdom was with
00:44:44.140Diego Garcia, then we can't just rely on them to make, we can't just make an agreement with them0.58
00:44:49.360and then put bases there. Or at least if we do make an agreement, maybe there's now an agreement
00:44:53.600that we don't get sovereignty. I don't know. But I think that the best case scenario for the United
00:44:57.100States is we simply say, no, it's got to be ours. It's got to be ours. There can't be any more talk
00:45:00.360of you randomly handing over the, you know, selling the ground underneath our feet in Greenland to
00:45:06.120somebody else like we we need to own and control and in fact um for anyone if you if you actually
00:45:13.500sat down and read the entire new york times interview it was only released in print with
00:45:17.560president trump highlights came out but if you read through read through the entire thing in
00:45:20.960the greenland section they actually discuss and president trump is very familiar with this
00:45:24.760at one point that part of the cold war treaty that the united states signed with denmark
00:45:29.040is that those bases which have now been deactivated could be reactivated unilaterally
00:45:35.480by the united states if they declare an emergency so president trump could under the terms of the
00:45:42.440current treaty that we have with denmark uh reactivate those cold war bases by the way thule
00:45:48.500airbase needs to be renamed of course but he could immediately start putting troops there right now
00:45:53.960and point to a direct treaty that we have with denmark and there's nothing they could do about1.00
00:45:58.300it yeah and we need to keep the chinese out of greenland that's another thing right like in full0.96
00:46:03.420There can't be no Chinese infrastructure projects, no Chinese working on the airports and the roads, none of that.1.00
00:46:11.760China doesn't get to, like, do this stuff in our hemisphere, especially with something so important to our inner, you know, our mass geopolitical strategic outlook is Germany, is Greenland, sorry.
00:46:22.200no but uh to your point you know uh looking at uh looking at from a military perspective as well0.89
00:46:29.200regardless of uh take the icbm threat off the top of the table but you've also got in in world war
00:46:34.740one world war ii when the germans when the kriegs marine wanted to come out from the baltic sea0.84
00:46:39.440wanted to cross to the north sea where did they have to go through oh they had to go through the
00:46:42.680gi uk gap this is the gap in uh in the sea lanes right directly where uh they would have to come
00:46:49.140out to cross into the North Atlantic to conduct those campaigns going up to Lusitania and others.0.87
00:46:54.700That's where the Germans would have to come through. So if this is U.S. territory, then we0.79
00:46:59.400can fortify the territory, then we can build it up, then we can strengthen it. The same deal with
00:47:04.400the Russian army, the Chinese army or anyone else who comes through. Will, as you know, I could talk
00:47:09.880about this all day and I'm sure you can as well. Where can people go to follow you? Find me on
00:47:15.900at will chamberlain on x and you can follow what the article three project is doing at a3paction.com
00:47:20.480all right folks ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay ashore this is
00:47:28.080the future governor of greenland jack pasovic signing off in dapo switzerland