Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 02, 2025


Live from the Pentagon： NYT Finally Reports on Minnesota Fraud Scandal Under Tim Walz

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On today's show, Jack Posobiec is joined by Liz Collin of Alpha News to discuss the massive fraud uncovered by the New York Times and the Department of Health and Human Services, and the DOJ's investigation into the matter.

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00:02:34.120 All right, folks, we've seen a ton come out.
00:02:37.720 President Trump, so many statements regarding Tim Waltz, the Somalians, what's going on, massive fraud in Minneapolis.
00:02:47.720 Well, someone who really broke the story on all of this and has been reporting on it intrepidly and doggedly for quite some time is Liz Collin of Alpha News.
00:02:57.240 Liz joins us now.
00:02:57.940 Liz, how are you?
00:02:59.420 Doing well, Jack.
00:03:00.440 Thanks for having me back on.
00:03:01.300 Well, I appreciate it.
00:03:03.220 Liz, what do you make of the president and I believe the DOJ now all announcing that they are going to launch an investigation into this fraud?
00:03:12.400 Yeah, wow.
00:03:13.180 What a whirlwind it has been.
00:03:14.820 Minnesota making national news yet again, Jack, just as you said, basically for days at this point, for all the wrong reasons, I should say as well.
00:03:21.740 But you have originally the New York Times finally acknowledging this rampant extent of fraud in Minnesota over the weekend.
00:03:29.460 Again, we're talking multi-billions of dollars in fraud through multiple social programs in the state at this point.
00:03:36.420 We also, interestingly enough, have had this X account that's been public for years now, but it consists of hundreds of state employees.
00:03:44.040 And this weekend, they solely placed the blame on Governor Tim Walz, very publicly doing so, posting that these Department of Human Services employees, it's about 400 of them that make up this X account, that they went to Governor Walz years ago, hoping for some sort of partnership in stopping this fraud that they were seeing.
00:04:02.460 You know, a lot of these people are actually writing the checks and doing the checks and balances or trying to do so.
00:04:06.940 And they saw so many problems, I should say, brought this forward.
00:04:12.120 And it sounds like their concerns were ignored, according to what they're posting on this X account.
00:04:16.960 Then you have this account deactivated for several hours Monday after calling out the governor specifically, that post being seen tens of millions of times.
00:04:25.960 And then, yeah, of course, you have President Trump weighing in with some choice words about the governor over the weekend, Elon Musk, weighing in on things here in Minnesota.
00:04:35.080 I think that you kind of see a bit of a sense of relief.
00:04:38.880 I guess we're going to see if something is actually done.
00:04:42.660 I think many Minnesota taxpayers are just thankful that some more people here are willing to actually take a look at this.
00:04:48.660 You know, our reporting does date back years.
00:04:51.280 In fact, we have an entire page dedicated to fraud over at alphanews.org.
00:04:56.380 You'll see stories there.
00:04:57.460 They've been stacking up for years.
00:04:59.020 But finally, is someone willing to listen?
00:05:00.920 Will something be done?
00:05:02.680 That is the question many Minnesota taxpayers, I think, have at this point.
00:05:06.260 Jack.
00:05:07.020 Well, Liz, this is amazing, too, because we've also seen just in the last few days, the New York Times, of all places, is coming out and reporting a headline that heretofore you would only find at Alpha News.
00:05:19.740 How fraud swamped Minnesota's social services system on Tim Waltz's watch.
00:05:25.600 And what's so interesting about this is, gosh, it just seems the New York Times wasn't able to find out any of this information, you know, during the election, which we just held, where this guy was the vice presidential candidate.
00:05:36.800 How strange.
00:05:37.340 Yeah, I remember being on your show, Jack, and talking about fraud.
00:05:41.340 That was one of the many frauds, you know, I think perpetuated on this governor's watch.
00:05:46.020 I put out a book three years ago now, it's been.
00:05:48.640 It's called They're Lying, the Media, the Left, and the Death of George Floyd.
00:05:52.400 Again, who is one of the big they's here in Minnesota?
00:05:55.720 Well, that would be Governor Tim Walz.
00:05:57.700 We've talked about before, it's the 78th defendant charged just last week, 78th in the Feeding Our Future fake meal scheme.
00:06:05.300 That's gone down as the largest COVID scheme in the country.
00:06:08.200 The New York Times does some extensive reporting about that.
00:06:11.520 But you're right, the timing is very interesting here.
00:06:13.920 You have Governor Walz running again now for a third term in Minnesota.
00:06:18.780 Some have publicly called for him to resign in the wake of a lot of this reporting.
00:06:23.880 So I think we're going to have to see how this all plays out politically.
00:06:27.080 You have a very crowded Republican field.
00:06:29.120 Nice to see, actually, a lot of people willing to jump in to try to do something about this.
00:06:33.920 But certainly a lot of frustration, and you see it on so many levels.
00:06:36.460 But interestingly enough, and I think this is part of the problem here in Minnesota, Jack, that I know I've spoke to you about this before.
00:06:43.340 But you have the mainstream media still in Minnesota.
00:06:46.420 They have not even reported on this X account at all in these last few days.
00:06:52.000 And instead, you have these national publications picking up what these state employees in Minnesota are saying and have been saying since October of 2022.
00:07:01.240 But again, you have the Star Tribune, Minnesota's largest newspaper, is run by a former Walz commissioner.
00:07:07.880 You truly cannot make up some of these connections here in Minnesota.
00:07:11.420 But we are seeing that this group, specifically on X, they're saying they will not be silenced.
00:07:16.360 And, you know, thankful to programs like yours for being willing to talk about this and keep it in the spotlight until something changes.
00:07:23.980 Well, Liz, and correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there part of the Feeding the Fruit future investigation?
00:07:29.800 Because I know there have been multiple cases and trials now in terms of this.
00:07:33.100 There was a jury bribing, jury tampering scandal as part of this.
00:07:37.600 Do I have that correct?
00:07:39.280 Yeah, that's right.
00:07:40.060 You had $120,000 cash, Jack, left on a juror's doorstep in that trial, left in like a Hallmark bag.
00:07:48.640 And that woman, interestingly enough, we actually just profiled a little piece, just an update on that bribe. 1.00
00:07:55.100 The woman who left that bribe was convicted and she's awaiting sentencing, has not been imprisoned as a result of that bribe.
00:08:04.600 Not only that, but she worked for an insurance agency in Minnesota where she went ahead and fraudulently wrote herself a $30,000 check from that agency.
00:08:14.160 She went on to commit then the Feeding our Future bribe. 1.00
00:08:16.780 She had a DWI where she left the scene of an accident and some terrible things happened.
00:08:22.840 And she was just, she was picked up finally, I think after, it was a couple of years, kept in jail for just a few weeks on all of this.
00:08:31.880 And now she's out again.
00:08:33.920 And many people are just saying, you know, this is enough.
00:08:37.140 What has happened to the state that used to take, you know, law and order seriously?
00:08:42.440 And just how, you know, these radical changes made under Governor Walz's watch have seemed, it seems, to finally have cut up to him.
00:08:52.840 And the juror in that case, the one they attempted to bribe, was that the person that actually reported it?
00:08:58.680 She reported it right away, yep, and was taken off that case.
00:09:04.640 You know, and everybody has returned guilty verdicts on these cases over and over again.
00:09:10.580 But isn't that wild that somebody who can leave a bribe like this, and basically this woman then has taken the stand in her trial to say this is our culture. 1.00
00:09:19.800 Those were her words actually in her case.
00:09:22.220 This is our culture.
00:09:23.180 This is what we do as if some way to, you know, excuse this bribe.
00:09:27.660 And it's really made a mockery, I think, of the Minnesota justice system as well.
00:09:32.460 And I think that, you know, when you look at this, it really begs the question, and it gets to the heart of what President Trump is talking about in terms of the mass importation of this completely separate group from a different part of the world into Minneapolis.
00:09:50.420 And quite frankly, it is absolutely wreaked havoc among, not just from a legal perspective, but just every real system in the entire state and the entire city has just felt a huge downward pressure from this immigration program. 0.99
00:10:07.620 Absolutely. And I think, you know, the George Floyd riots helped to silence, in a way, much of the population, you know, how dare you appear to be racist.
00:10:18.580 We actually heard an assistant U.S. attorney speak to that, how race was weaponized in the Feeding Our Future case, that people wanted to bring this forward earlier.
00:10:29.620 But they would see again and again how, you know, it would be Somalis perpetuating this fraud, and then it would be tamped down. 1.00
00:10:37.120 You don't want to appear to be racist as the person that is bringing these concerns forward.
00:10:42.620 Thankfully, I think we've pushed back at, you know, the facts kind of speak for themselves, I think, in these cases that have been tried at this point.
00:10:51.020 But you do have the president saying that he's going to terminate temporary protected status for Somalis in Minnesota.
00:11:00.220 And actually, interestingly enough, at this hour, we're streaming a press conference that's objecting to Trump's reported crackdown on illegal Somalis in Minnesota.
00:11:08.880 So that's happening. I believe it's happening at Minneapolis City Hall right now.
00:11:12.860 So again, rather than...
00:11:15.020 Liz Collin, we'll be right back. Hold that thought. Quick break. Human Events Daily. We are live from the Pentagon.
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00:11:52.380 Welcome back. Before the break, we were discussing what's happening here in Minnesota as far as the fraud concerns.
00:11:58.860 And I just wanted to pick up on the conversation I was having with Jack earlier.
00:12:02.980 Actually, it's a press conference happening right now in Minneapolis, as it seems city leaders have come out in full force to fight.
00:12:10.500 President Donald Trump, as he is trying to basically zero in on some of these fraud problems in the state.
00:12:17.760 But just reading from a press conference happening now, Democratic Minneapolis City Council member Jamal Osman calling President Trump at this press conference.
00:12:27.340 Again, happening at the moment now, calling President Trump racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic.
00:12:34.880 This press conference is being held on Trump's Somali immigration crackdown that he has announced.
00:12:41.300 But what's interesting, in October 2020, Osman himself handed over control of a nonprofit he founded to a group of new owners who then used it in Minnesota's $250 million feeding our future fraud scandal.
00:12:53.340 So you can certainly see that this is a tangled web in Minnesota and many leaders, so-called leaders, in these left-leaning cities like Minneapolis doing everything they can to try to fight President Trump at every turn.
00:13:10.340 Jack.
00:13:11.120 Liz Collin, this is, it really represents, I think, and we are back here from the Department of War studio.
00:13:18.580 And we do see that Minneapolis, Minnesota Department of Human Service Employees X account, the Minnesota DHS, and looking at it has been suspended, but potentially coming back.
00:13:31.860 So hopefully, hopefully X can fix that.
00:13:34.640 But I do, of course, see, and I'm just pulling it up, I do have to make a slight correction.
00:13:38.360 It's the Department of Treasury that has launched this investigation.
00:13:41.660 And we see now that Secretary Scott Besant says that, at my direction, U.S. Treasury is investigating allegations that, under the feckless mismanagement of the Biden administration and Governor Tim Walz, hardworking Minnesotans' tax dollars have been diverted to the terrorist organization Al-Shabaab.
00:13:56.800 This came up on behalf of a Chris Rufo investigation with City Journal that some of the funds were actually used to fund Al-Shabaab, an actual designated terrorist organization, which, interestingly enough, gets us back to the drone strikes that we were talking about earlier in the program here.
00:14:13.800 And says that they're acting based on the potential of the use for terror financing here, which is very important, by the way, because that gives the government extreme measures to be able to use to go after these operations.
00:14:28.880 Liz, had you ever, in your reporting, come across any potential connections to these Somalian terrorist groups?
00:14:35.420 You know, I think that that was something also that didn't come as much of a surprise.
00:14:38.940 And I say that, Jack, I don't mean to be, you know, say that offhandedly, but we've heard before and reported before how this money has been funneled to Somalia, has been funneled to Kenya.
00:14:52.100 And, you know, it's long gone by the time that some of these investigators have caught up to the fraud.
00:14:58.560 And actually, my sources have said that, in many cases, some of these folks are willing to actually just go to prison for five or ten years, serve their time.
00:15:06.460 And they've, you know, the money's out of the country at this point, and they have a pretty good system set up for when they, you know, do get out.
00:15:14.360 It may sound crazy to the rest of us, but even, you know, as a young man who was the 78th defendant sentenced last week, you know, his sentence was about 10 years, which probably won't serve all of those years.
00:15:27.620 And he had a long life ahead, and it was about $47 million or so that he was ordered to pay in restitution.
00:15:34.440 I have a feeling that, you know, that money will not be seen.
00:15:38.380 So I don't think that that came as much of a surprise as just how disturbing, obviously, that is.
00:15:44.500 But also Minneapolis has been—many stories have been in the national news over the years about how this has been, you know, a breeding ground for terrorism.
00:15:54.040 Many people actually charged with trying to join these terrorist networks and groups, young Somali men.
00:15:59.260 That has happened many, many times and made the news over the years.
00:16:04.080 So sadly, again, I think a storyline that we've seen here in Minnesota in the past.
00:16:09.240 Well, I know, and it's certainly something where, of course, the federal government and the Department of Treasury are going to get involved because now they're able to look at these foreign transfers and say, wait a minute, you know, this isn't just people sending money back to their families.
00:16:22.120 If they're sending money that's potentially going towards the funding of a designated foreign terrorist organization, then there are extremely large powers and capabilities at the Department of Treasury that they have to actually go after this.
00:16:37.240 But, Liz, on another point, though, I mean, it seems as though this corruption is so rampant that the fraud is so widespread.
00:16:46.160 Why is it that Tim Walz either doesn't see it or he looks the other way?
00:16:50.680 Is he benefiting from it or is he just sort of trying to act like it's not actually happening?
00:16:56.720 Actually, you heard in some comments this weekend, Jack, he was talking about how he did so much to put these people in jail.
00:17:03.220 It's well documented that it was the U.S. attorney's office that has led the prosecution from the very beginning and the Feeding Our Future case and many other cases of fraud in Minnesota.
00:17:13.320 So people were quick to to correct him on on that front.
00:17:17.420 He's been he's been asked that question.
00:17:19.020 In fact, he had the power in the legislature to go ahead and create sort of this separate position.
00:17:25.280 But it was clear that he did not want that someone to take a take a look at that, somebody that he would not control, if you will, the legislative auditor position, something he did not back.
00:17:36.720 But then he went ahead and it was shortly after that that he came up with his own way of fighting fraud and launched his own office.
00:17:44.580 But we've heard very little about anything that they've actually accomplished in the in these many months.
00:17:50.920 So I think you're asking very good, good questions.
00:17:53.900 I'm probably not giving you good answers.
00:17:55.440 But I think a lot of us here in Minnesota have been scratching our heads going, you know, are these people in on it?
00:18:00.900 Is that why that's why this has has gone on as long as it has?
00:18:05.320 But I think as as the days go by, you see more and more people finally getting the moral courage to to to come forward and demand answers.
00:18:14.640 And I think that's exactly right.
00:18:16.200 So, Liz, for your own reporting, are you able to tell us where you're going to be working with?
00:18:21.100 And by the way, I should also ask, have any members of the federal government reached out to Alpha News?
00:18:27.820 You know, we have a we have a few sources here.
00:18:30.260 We'd we'd be happy to pass along all of our information.
00:18:32.760 We have a whole heck of a lot. And Jack, I'll be honest, there is not a day that goes by that we do not receive a tip at Alpha News about some sort of suspected fraud going on in Minnesota.
00:18:41.160 I've actually never seen anything like it as a 20 plus year reporter at this point in in Minnesota.
00:18:46.860 People are I think I've told you before, but they're setting up surveillance cameras themselves.
00:18:50.900 They're taking pictures themselves of, you know, these suspect properties.
00:18:54.780 You can pull these records quite easily online, but it's all alpha news dot org right at the top.
00:18:59.560 You'll see fraud in Minnesota and you can follow all of our reporting from past years.
00:19:03.780 It's all right there on that that page.
00:19:07.020 And I think we many I speak for many people that we welcome the federal government to come in and take a take a look at this.
00:19:14.500 And we'd be happy to help.
00:19:16.040 But anyway, we possibly can.
00:19:18.240 You know, the citizens certainly deserve better here.
00:19:20.960 They certainly do.
00:19:22.120 Liz Collin, where can people go to follow you directly?
00:19:24.040 At Liz Collin on X and Alpha News also on X as well.
00:19:30.780 You can follow along with with all things going on here here in Minnesota.
00:19:34.760 Liz, thank you so much for joining us.
00:19:36.920 Thank you, Jack.
00:19:38.960 Folks, you have to understand what's going on here.
00:19:41.340 When you import a group of people from a part of the world where scamming and cheating and fraud are part of the culture, then that is the culture that you are going to import. 0.95
00:19:55.320 This is third world culture.
00:19:57.580 All of the things that Liz is describing, that Alpha News is describing, all of the things that all of them are describing are basics of third world culture.
00:20:07.840 This is why the third world is the third world.
00:20:10.380 These are cultural deficiencies.
00:20:12.960 This is why the first world, the United States of America, was able to be made the way that it is.
00:20:20.320 We have something called honor.
00:20:22.400 We have Christian values.
00:20:23.900 We have Greek philosophy.
00:20:25.180 We have Roman law.
00:20:26.640 All right, folks, President Trump now about to make his announcement, and we are going to be cutting directly over to that.
00:20:35.460 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.