Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Live From The White House - “No US Troops On The Ground In Ukraine”

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.180 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.740 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.820 Christ is king.

00:00:50.900 Here in our new media seat today, we have Jack Posobiec, who joined us in Anchorage, Alaska last week.

00:00:55.680 Jack, thanks for being here.

00:00:56.640 Why don't you kick us off?

00:00:57.780 Caroline, thanks so much.

00:00:58.820 So a couple of questions regarding the status of these peace talks.

00:01:03.020 Obviously, we saw the President and President Putin there in Anchorage.

00:01:06.720 We saw the world leaders here yesterday with this summit.

00:01:09.700 We've heard phrases like coalition of the willing.

00:01:12.060 We've also heard Article 5-like guarantees.

00:01:15.000 When it comes to the security guarantees, what is the current status of that?

00:01:19.320 I know the President earlier today mentioned boots on the ground would be U.K., France, Germany, possibly, but unequivocally said no U.S. troops on the ground, but U.S. coordination.

00:01:29.720 Can you elaborate on that, and what would the red lines be?

00:01:32.380 Sure.

00:01:32.780 Well, you got to the heart of what I was going to say to all of you today on security guarantees,

00:01:37.340 which is the President has definitively stated U.S. boots will not be on the ground in Ukraine.

00:01:42.280 But we can certainly help in the coordination and perhaps provide other means of security guarantees to our European allies.

00:01:49.140 The President understands security guarantees are crucially important to ensure a lasting peace.

00:01:53.940 And he has directed his national security team to coordinate with our friends in Europe

00:01:58.900 and also to continue to cooperate and discuss these matters with Ukraine and Russia as well.

00:02:04.320 Helen, now, have the Russians responded at all?

00:02:06.820 I know we spoke with President Putin last night.

00:02:08.500 What has been their response?

00:02:09.920 Because we've heard some reports from the Kremlin and others saying they're unequivocally against NATO troops on the ground.

00:02:15.460 Well, look, the President continues to have these conversations with both leaders.

00:02:19.400 Those conversations took place in Anchorage, Alaska, again yesterday with the Europeans and President Zelensky.

00:02:25.480 And he has directed his team to come up with a framework for these security guarantees that can be acceptable to help ensure a lasting peace and end this war.

00:02:33.360 And then just last question real quick on this.

00:02:35.480 Regarding some of the funding, we're hearing questions about another round of weapon sales

00:02:40.820 or possibly a round of U.S. purchases of Ukrainian drones.

00:02:45.060 Will that money be funded by the U.S. taxpayers?

00:02:48.020 Are we finally going to see an end to the U.S. taxpayer-funded, seemingly endless mandate for these foreign wars?

00:02:54.460 Well, the President is very sensitive to the needs of the American taxpayer.

00:02:58.780 And immediately upon entering office back in January, he made it very clear that we're not going to continue writing blank checks to fund a war very far away,

00:03:06.320 which is why he came up with a very creative solution to have NATO purchase American weaponry,

00:03:12.080 because it is the best in the world, and then to backfill the needs of the Ukrainian army and the Ukrainian people and their military.

00:03:19.260 So that's the solution the President has came up with.

00:03:21.900 We'll continue to see that forward.

00:03:23.580 As for any additional sales, I'll have to defer you to the President of Defense.

00:03:29.120 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition here of Human Events Daily.

00:03:34.380 We are live at the White House.

00:03:37.860 Today is August 19, 2025.

00:03:39.260 I want to thank Caroline Levitt for allowing me the opportunity to sit in the new media seat earlier today, 1.00

00:03:48.540 just a few moments ago, at the White House press briefing,

00:03:52.160 and having that opportunity to ask some very serious questions about what's going on here in the White House

00:04:00.040 and in these discussions, very high-level discussions, high stakes, as President Trump stated earlier,

00:04:05.820 regarding the United States, Russia, Ukraine, and potential security guarantees.

00:04:11.920 One of the things that I really tried to drive home on this was, number one, will U.S. troops be on the ground?

00:04:18.260 President Trump, I know, spoke this morning about that and said unequivocally no U.S. troops on the ground.

00:04:22.880 But at the same time, he mentioned something about U.S. coordination.

00:04:27.020 And so what would that mean?

00:04:28.380 What would that look like?

00:04:29.280 I've talked before about a potential Syrianization of the Ukraine conflict,

00:04:34.920 whereby in NATO forces or coalition forces would come in.

00:04:39.140 That is something that the president spoke about earlier today,

00:04:41.740 and I also questioned Press Secretary Levitt about this.

00:04:45.360 U.K., German, French troops, will they be on the ground in Ukraine to provide a sort of security guarantee?

00:04:53.560 And if so, by the way, will the Russians agree to this at all?

00:04:57.780 Because as these conversations go, these are all proposals that do not merit any weight

00:05:05.020 until, of course, they can be agreed to by the Russians.

00:05:08.740 That is the biggest part of it.

00:05:09.820 And the president understands this as well.

00:05:11.340 That's, of course, why he decided to take the time yesterday, cut the meeting early,

00:05:15.740 and then go and get Vladimir Putin himself, the leader of Russia, on the phone to discuss this,

00:05:21.340 in addition to a potential bilateral meeting, a sit-down between Zelensky and Putin directly,

00:05:27.160 that would precede a trilateral meeting of the three leaders, President Trump, President Putin, President Zelensky.

00:05:34.460 And, of course, the final question that I asked while I was there,

00:05:38.260 will this mean an end to the era of endless U.S. taxpayer-funded mandates for these endless wars overseas?

00:05:49.100 Because the American people, this is something they voted for in 2024.

00:05:52.440 We see it every single day.

00:05:53.400 They keep asking, why, oh, why are we spending tens of billions of dollars on wars all around the world,

00:06:00.780 protecting borders that are not ours and ones that do not have a direct interest for the American citizen?

00:06:09.940 Of course, we've now seen with this administration deployments to the southern border,

00:06:14.060 deployments of now the U.S. Navy and a task force there in Southcom.

00:06:17.520 That was one of the other topics that came up, this idea of moving back towards a hemispheric defense.

00:06:23.500 And Caroline Levitt also confirmed that more than likely that money would be coming from either the EU

00:06:29.740 or from Ukraine in some capacity, these EU nations, allowing them, as President Trump has always said,

00:06:36.040 to pay for their own defense.

00:06:38.400 One of the only other questions, if I'd had a chance to ask a fourth question,

00:06:41.340 but that's how it goes in the format of these discussions,

00:06:43.720 I would have potentially brought up this idea that's been floated regarding a U.N. resolution.

00:06:50.940 Would it be possible for people asking regarding a permanent security framework,

00:06:55.960 would it be possible for a U.N. Security Council resolution

00:06:59.940 to be brought up enshrining all of these peace deals and security guarantees

00:07:05.100 so that it lasts even long after President Trump is out of office?

00:07:09.160 This is Jack Posobiec. We're here live at the White House, on the grounds, Human Events Daily.

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00:09:09.640 All right, guys.

00:09:10.340 So we're here at the White House currently.

00:09:14.200 I'm still working on getting my audio back up right now.

00:09:17.500 By the way, special thanks to the Real America's Voice team being flexible with us.

00:09:21.080 Didn't even know 24 hours ago that I'd be here back at the White House doing the new media seat again.

00:09:26.860 But, hey, when they invite, you've got to come in.

00:09:30.020 And when it comes down to this, U.S., Russia, Ukraine talking about issues of war and peace,

00:09:35.880 this is absolutely something that it is seminal that we need to be here for because it's just that important.

00:09:41.760 Someone else who also understands the importance of this is Michael Knowles of The Daily Wire.

00:09:46.200 He joins us now.

00:09:47.020 What's up, Knowles?

00:09:48.280 Great to be with you, sir.

00:09:50.020 I think I recognize that building behind you.

00:09:52.620 I think, have I seen it before?

00:09:56.680 No, no.

00:09:57.380 This is actually just a set.

00:09:59.560 So we've constructed an elaborate set for my show due to my exacting standards.

00:10:05.800 Just like Joe Biden.

00:10:06.920 I remember that.

00:10:07.880 They pretended Joe Biden was in the Oval Office.

00:10:09.940 That's good.

00:10:10.340 I'm glad that you could have a similar setup.

00:10:11.720 We got it.

00:10:15.340 Basically, we got it at a fire sale.

00:10:17.000 They said they were trying to get rid of it because Joe Biden's there.

00:10:19.220 But don't worry, because we performed an exorcism before we set foot on it.

00:10:24.100 That's good.

00:10:24.660 Very wise.

00:10:25.680 I think, actually, the last time I saw you at the White House, you may have even rosary checked me.

00:10:29.960 I can't quite recall, but that would be fitting.

00:10:32.260 I definitely rosary checked you.

00:10:36.080 And, in fact, my rosary is just out of reach right now in my bag because I took it out of my pocket so I could go on air.

00:10:42.840 But, Knowles, we're talking about the rosary because we're praying today.

00:10:46.420 President Trump made reference to this earlier that so much of this, choosing peace over war, it really is a spiritual choice, isn't it?

00:10:55.120 Of course.

00:10:56.740 And not to get too into the weeds on everything, but the Alaska Summit took place on the Feast of the Assumption of Mary.

00:11:04.040 Mary, who now for 100 years we've recognized that she will play a role in the Christianization of Russia, prayers throughout the Catholic Church for Russia to be consecrated to Mary.

00:11:16.320 So, you know, I know for our friends out there who are Protestant and Jewish and irreligious, this all sounds probably kind of wacky. 0.97

00:11:22.880 But to the Catholics in the audience, the timing seems providential, and Trump does seem like the president for peace.

00:11:29.220 I mean, the guy has a very good record on this, how quickly we moved from the Alaska Summit.

00:11:34.200 Trump and Putin both left early.

00:11:35.900 They didn't even have lunch, and so people thought it didn't go well.

00:11:38.560 But the press conference seemed to go well, and they didn't get the ceasefire.

00:11:42.700 But they are moving forward with then the meeting with Zelensky and the European leaders.

00:11:46.600 And all of this reads to me as if Trump wants to get a deal done fast, and he might very well do it.

00:11:54.600 Well, and not only that, but one of the things that I noted, and, you know, my wife Tanya being Orthodox, so we're mending the schism here,

00:12:01.780 is that normally the Catholic and Orthodox calendars, they don't quite match up.

00:12:06.160 So even though we have many of the same feast days, it's not usual, you know, people know their Christmas is on a different date,

00:12:11.760 their Easter is on a different date.

00:12:13.660 However, for whatever reason, I haven't dug into it so completely yet, as it turns out,

00:12:18.480 the Russians, who are all Orthodox, that were coming on the delegation,

00:12:21.520 it was also the Orthodox feast of the Assumption, in addition to being the Western feast of the Assumption.

00:12:29.020 And I was thinking, this is incredible, because this hardly ever happens.

00:12:31.860 And, in fact, Putin went and met with one of the Russian Orthodox leaders in Alaska,

00:12:37.300 because that's one of the legacies of the Russian Empire having control of the Alaskan territory,

00:12:41.620 is there's a ton of Orthodox.

00:12:42.900 In fact, the Inuit up in Alaska, a ton of them are Russian Orthodox because of this.

00:12:48.540 And so it's very interesting timing with both feast days lining up.

00:12:52.900 You know, there's a great line,

00:12:54.200 All nature is but art unknown to thee, all chance direction which thou canst not see.

00:12:58.100 So, you know, we believe that Providence governs all of history,

00:13:02.020 and sometimes it's a little clearer than at other times.

00:13:04.560 But I'm just taken by what President Trump said to Emmanuel Macron when he was caught on that hot mic.

00:13:10.580 He said, I think Putin wants to do a deal with me, as crazy as that sounds.

00:13:16.400 And I love both sides of that statement,

00:13:18.520 because he's clearly trying to wrangle the Europeans and Zelensky.

00:13:21.420 But he seemed totally sincere, and he said, look, you know,

00:13:24.540 I went there to Alaska, and I think Putin actually wants to do a deal.

00:13:29.040 I know that sounds crazy.

00:13:30.180 The Ukraine war has been going on for 11 years,

00:13:32.280 and we've been in a Cold War with a little bit of a break with Russia since the 1940s.

00:13:37.420 But I think he wants to do a deal.

00:13:40.680 And so, you know, if they can wrangle this, if they can really make it happen,

00:13:45.440 Trump will be the greatest geopolitical president of my lifetime, probably.

00:13:50.180 He probably even edges out George H.W. Bush, which is a guarantee that he will never, ever get the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:13:58.300 Well, and that's exactly what I asked about in the press conference just now,

00:14:02.680 because, you know, people want to take a step back and say, okay, he's done this deal, he's done this deal,

00:14:06.460 he's got this, the Congo, and, you know, he's getting Rwanda involved,

00:14:10.260 and all these, you know, far-flung leaders bring him Azerbaijan and Armenia,

00:14:15.040 the oldest Christian nation, by the way, Armenia, and so many others.

00:14:18.000 But what it really constitutes is this idea, the promise that he made,

00:14:22.000 which I do believe is, in many ways, a spiritual promise,

00:14:24.940 to say we are going to end the era of the endless wars.

00:14:28.940 In addition to that, the endless funding by the U.S. taxpayer,

00:14:33.160 it's a total difference of philosophy that the United States isn't going to be

00:14:38.060 this sort of global empire where our job is to go around and sort of demand

00:14:42.420 how every country in the world is going to interact.

00:14:46.040 And instead, we're going to be a good actor, we're going to have these trade deals,

00:14:49.300 we're going to use that economic basis to hopefully, you know,

00:14:53.760 ensue good action from our various compatriots in the world.

00:14:58.040 But it's totally different than using the bayonet,

00:15:00.760 as you just mentioned, with George W. Bush.

00:15:02.960 And even, by the way, for the people who don't want to go all the way

00:15:08.240 toward a firmly nationalistic view of U.S. policy

00:15:11.320 and, you know, pulling away from our intervention in the rest of the world,

00:15:14.700 even on a purely imperial basis,

00:15:17.120 it would probably be a pretty smart idea for the United States,

00:15:20.840 which has to counter a growing China, to maybe triangulate a little bit

00:15:24.760 and maybe try to split Russia off of China.

00:15:26.800 Because the consequence of the Biden policy

00:15:28.680 was to push our two clearest geopolitical adversaries further together.

00:15:32.940 That poses economic dangers, that poses strategic dangers, security dangers.

00:15:38.220 And then also from the reporting, again, we don't totally know what's real at this point,

00:15:43.040 but we're also being told that Putin has agreed to Western security guarantees in Ukraine.

00:15:47.320 So, you know, all of the panic hands, as Trump called them,

00:15:51.740 said that any Trump deal is going to threaten American hegemony,

00:15:55.360 threaten the global order, sell out Europe to Putin or whatever.

00:15:58.460 It seems like none of that is coming to pass.

00:16:00.920 And if you think, as most Americans seemed to think,

00:16:04.520 that four years under Biden and before the first Trump term,

00:16:08.060 eight years under Obama had left America weaker and more vulnerable,

00:16:11.680 then I think the only option is to pursue a different course.

00:16:14.440 Trump is doing it, and he seems to be having a lot of success with it.

00:16:19.620 I think that's right.

00:16:20.480 Now, before we run to break, we have a couple of minutes.

00:16:22.360 I've got to ask you this.

00:16:23.700 President Trump started another debate raging online this morning.

00:16:28.080 I hear there's some mainstream media articles being written up about it

00:16:30.720 because he said in an interview earlier today

00:16:32.960 that he hopes that he can achieve peace

00:16:35.320 because he wants to get to heaven if he's able to save a lot of lives.

00:16:40.860 Michael Knowles, is he talking about a works-based justification for salvation?

00:16:47.640 Of course, you know, leave it to the conservatives and the Christians 1.00

00:16:51.560 never to be able to take yes for an answer.

00:16:54.440 But I'll tell you, after living through years and decades, 0.63

00:16:58.660 it's this classic, you know, materialist, secular, atheist nonsense,

00:17:02.720 and you have a president who's speaking in religious terms. 0.82

00:17:06.200 And by the way, this isn't the first time.

00:17:08.240 And for a guy who came within one-twentieth of an inch

00:17:11.340 of having his head blown off in Butler,

00:17:13.120 that does make you think about the final things.

00:17:15.340 To realize that this man, who is a symbol of luxury and material abundance,

00:17:19.680 thinking about maybe going to heaven, I think that's mighty fine.

00:17:23.400 And we don't need to worry about the Heresiarch Pelagius.

00:17:26.520 We dealt with him about 1,700 years ago.

00:17:29.480 Let's let President Trump keep on cooking. 0.54

00:17:31.280 I think it's exactly right.

00:17:35.780 In fact, it's funny because I'm not going to name names,

00:17:38.400 but I brought it up even here at the White House.

00:17:40.820 I said, you know, because I know that we've got sort of the, you know,

00:17:44.180 people who say, okay, well, that's totally fine

00:17:46.300 because you're from the Catholic background or an Orthodox background.

00:17:49.000 But then you've also, you've got plenty of evangelicals

00:17:51.280 and mainline Protestants and others here say, well, hold on a second.

00:17:55.380 I think salvation only is enough to get to heaven.

00:17:58.660 I said, all right, guys, I don't know what he's getting into.

00:18:01.280 What is the line, you are justified by your works and not by faith alone?

00:18:04.980 Faith without works is dead.

00:18:06.660 I don't know.

00:18:07.260 I'm reminded.

00:18:07.940 I don't know that all this scripture is going to be debated in the West Wing today.

00:18:11.000 Is that from some book?

00:18:12.900 I don't know.

00:18:14.140 That book.

00:18:15.480 Somewhere in there.

00:18:16.220 You know, you talk about influences.

00:18:24.500 These are influences and they're friends of mine.

00:18:28.760 Jack Posobiec.

00:18:30.260 Where's Jack?

00:18:31.180 Jack.

00:18:32.220 He's done a great job.

00:18:33.680 All right, Jack Posobiec.

00:18:37.680 We're back here live from the North Lawn of the White House.

00:18:42.200 We're on with Michael Knowles.

00:18:44.220 And, you know, we were talking about this comment that President Trump actually made earlier today

00:18:48.880 regarding will he get to heaven by saving lives, by stopping wars,

00:18:53.460 and how this has kicked off a theological debate.

00:18:56.060 And it perhaps is fitting because Michael Knowles has a new docu-series out

00:19:02.080 all about the secret Vatican files of World War II.

00:19:06.040 And I believe we have the trailer.

00:19:06.880 Let's play it now.

00:19:08.280 History is written by the victors.

00:19:11.960 But what if the victors got it wrong?

00:19:18.020 For 80 years, the world has condemned one man as the Pope of Silence,

00:19:23.180 the man who stood by in the face of shocking evil.

00:19:29.120 But can we trust the popular narrative?

00:19:32.660 Even after all these years?

00:19:34.720 This is not just a story about Hitler and the Holocaust.

00:19:38.360 One of the worst lies ever told about the Catholic Church

00:19:41.380 is what she did or did not do in one of modernity's darkest hours.

00:19:46.940 Now, for the first time, the Vatican's secret archive is open,

00:19:50.280 and the truth is far more shocking than the fiction.

00:19:54.320 Propagandists have peddled one story for decades.

00:19:57.040 But now we can definitively know better.

00:20:00.300 Join me in this four-part series.

00:20:02.080 Where we will discover the true story of Pope Pius XII, Hitler, and the Second World War.

00:20:07.300 This is wild.

00:20:11.360 Michael Knowles, you've put together the docu-series.

00:20:14.180 Walk us through how this came about and why you decided to put it together now.

00:20:19.360 Well, Jack, we all know that the news is fake a lot of the time.

00:20:24.080 And if you think the news is fake, just wait until you see what propagandists have done to history.

00:20:29.800 You know, there is a man, the Pope during World War II, Pope Pius XII,

00:20:34.320 one of the great men of the 20th century,

00:20:36.160 who is probably the most smeared and calumniated, slandered man of the 20th century.

00:20:42.700 He has been accused of being silent in the face of Nazism, of being even complicit.

00:20:48.220 Some propagandists have called him Hitler's Pope.

00:20:50.620 And it's just not true. 0.98

00:20:52.020 It's ridiculous.

00:20:53.260 He's one of the great heroes. 0.95

00:20:54.500 He stood firm.

00:20:55.640 Hitler considered him his personal enemy, as he wrote to Francisco Franco.

00:20:59.800 Pope Pius XII saved many, many people, including many, many, many Jews,

00:21:04.640 so much so that the chief rabbi of Rome, after the war,

00:21:07.940 converted to Catholicism and took the name Eugenio,

00:21:10.800 which is Pope Pius XII's name, before he became pope.

00:21:13.640 So this man has just been lied about in some of the most horrific ways.

00:21:18.040 We have a four-part series to set the record straight,

00:21:20.380 in part because we have a new pope, we have an American pope for the first time,

00:21:25.340 Catholicism seems to be shockingly on the rise, especially among adult conversions.

00:21:30.340 So this is very much of the moment.

00:21:31.960 There's a return to faith, questioning of historical narratives.

00:21:34.820 And so we want to get the facts out there.

00:21:36.920 And just this morning, I saw there was a piece in the Times of Israel,

00:21:40.680 Shmuley Boteik, who is this kind of wacky rabbi. 1.00

00:21:45.120 I hate to malign rabbis by associating Shmuley with them.

00:21:49.700 But he came out, and he accused me and The Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro

00:21:53.900 of rehabilitating a Nazi collaborator.

00:21:57.460 I mean, he's just furthering the calumny.

00:21:59.560 It shows you how widespread this false belief is.

00:22:03.000 And so I encourage people to go join Daily Wire Plus

00:22:05.340 because they can get the full story.

00:22:06.880 They get all the facts.

00:22:07.940 Because if you don't know your history,

00:22:10.120 you're not going to know which way your country,

00:22:12.120 your civilization should be going.

00:22:13.300 Well, I think this is great.

00:22:17.980 And it's definitely something where, you know, especially Pope Pius,

00:22:21.360 I know for a lot of traditional Catholics,

00:22:24.340 he's someone that a lot of people will point to

00:22:26.600 because he really, even as a Polish guy, of course,

00:22:30.400 you know, nothing but love for J.P. the two.

00:22:32.920 But Pope Pius XII was really someone who came in

00:22:36.020 on a lot of the hot-button issues.

00:22:37.800 And for people to look at this and say,

00:22:39.560 this is pre-Vatican II,

00:22:41.100 this is pre a lot of these modernist changes

00:22:42.920 that we saw with the church,

00:22:44.160 and he's someone who spoke with incredible clarity

00:22:46.800 on moral issues that we are still wrestling with

00:22:49.640 to this very day.

00:22:51.600 And so I really feel like a lot of the smears

00:22:54.680 and a lot of this campaign went against him

00:22:57.520 because they don't want people looking beyond all that

00:23:01.120 to see who the man actually was and what he stood for.

00:23:04.500 Certainly.

00:23:05.180 And not only did he speak and write with clarity,

00:23:07.280 but he acted with clarity.

00:23:08.740 And I think something confusing about Pius XII

00:23:11.540 when we look at our modern age of tick-tock and clicks

00:23:14.760 is that the man did not just showboat all the time.

00:23:17.660 In fact, in his prudence to defend the innocent,

00:23:20.780 to defend Christians, especially to defend Jews

00:23:22.860 in Rome and throughout Europe,

00:23:25.060 sometimes he had to act in silence.

00:23:26.780 And he suffered a kind of a martyrdom in a certain sense.

00:23:30.300 His reputation was maligned

00:23:32.020 because he was acting behind the scenes, furtively.

00:23:35.020 He was wise.

00:23:36.960 The chief political virtue is prudence.

00:23:39.280 And that certainly saved many, many lives.

00:23:41.480 But he didn't get the credit for it.

00:23:43.380 Well, now the Vatican Secret Archive is open.

00:23:46.120 And so historians are able to look at these documents.

00:23:49.000 The story is clear as day. 0.93

00:23:50.440 The propagandists are liars. 0.71

00:23:52.120 The calumny against Pius came from enemies of the church, 0.98

00:23:55.300 notably from the communists.

00:23:56.660 And we see all sorts of lies about our civilization,

00:23:59.900 about the church today.

00:24:00.840 So we need to be sure that we're very clear about this.

00:24:03.880 And we can look ahead.

00:24:05.360 Because this is not just merely looking back

00:24:06.800 to the 1940s and the 1950s.

00:24:08.460 But this is about looking ahead

00:24:10.100 to where our civilization will go if we are to survive.

00:24:13.540 Wait a minute, Noel.

00:24:17.460 So you're telling me that the textbooks

00:24:20.600 and the newspapers are totally against Pope Pius XII

00:24:24.640 and that the communists of the time were also against him.

00:24:28.360 So then that belies the question,

00:24:30.280 who's in charge of our media right now

00:24:32.040 and who's been writing these textbooks?

00:24:33.340 Yeah, it turns out that the historic enemy of the church,

00:24:38.540 the communists, one of the...

00:24:40.500 Well, there were multiple villains in World War II,

00:24:42.200 but the communists were certainly up there.

00:24:43.560 It turns out, you know, they remain enemies of the church,

00:24:46.120 but not exactly a man-bites-dog story.

00:24:48.620 But unfortunately, propaganda does have a way,

00:24:51.680 really, of working.

00:24:52.640 And so we need to see clarity here

00:24:54.440 because even in the lead-up to World War II,

00:24:56.500 you can see Pope Pius XII, then Eugenio Pacelli,

00:24:59.220 was a diplomat in Germany.

00:25:00.840 So he saw the rise of Hitler.

00:25:02.160 He knew Hitler's number early on. 0.88

00:25:05.220 And Pope Pius XI, his predecessor,

00:25:07.760 wrote Mitprinando Sorga

00:25:08.960 to counteract the rise of Nazism.

00:25:11.940 He wrote it in German

00:25:12.820 to spread it among the German people.

00:25:15.500 But, you know, Hitler very likely wanted to kidnap the pope 0.87

00:25:18.560 and possibly kill him, 0.89

00:25:20.320 wrote that he would... 0.99

00:25:21.400 Or rather, said to Goebbels,

00:25:22.680 Goebbels wrote that he would destroy the churches in Germany.

00:25:25.600 So, you know, you have one enemy of the church

00:25:27.560 coming from one side.

00:25:28.680 You have this other enemy, the communists,

00:25:30.100 coming from the other.

00:25:30.880 And you have this one man standing alone.

00:25:32.960 Everyone flees Rome.

00:25:34.340 The king of Italy, Mussolini.

00:25:36.000 And here is Pius XII standing firm

00:25:37.940 and standing for the truth

00:25:39.600 and doing a lot of good

00:25:41.340 and saving a lot of people in the process.

00:25:45.660 Now, we're just about out of time.

00:25:47.160 Tell people again where they can go to get that.

00:25:48.660 Daily Wire Plus?

00:25:50.520 Only place to go, Daily Wire Plus.

00:25:52.300 You all have to come over

00:25:53.300 so that I can beat Walsh and Shapiro

00:25:54.980 on their subscription numbers.

00:25:56.180 We need to make Pius XII the big show.

00:26:01.340 Pius XII.

00:26:02.300 I'm definitely going to be checking that out.

00:26:03.700 Michael Knowles,

00:26:04.660 thanks so much for joining us once again here.

00:26:06.240 Human Events.

00:26:06.980 Right back live from the White House

00:26:08.880 through America's Voice.

00:26:09.560 Jack, where is Jack?

00:26:18.360 Where is Jack?

00:26:20.720 Where is he?

00:26:22.000 Jack, I want to see you.

00:26:25.660 Great job, Jack.

00:26:27.120 Thank you.

00:26:27.840 What a job you do.

00:26:29.300 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:26:30.680 We're always talking about the fake news

00:26:32.260 and the bad,

00:26:32.960 but we have guys,

00:26:34.000 and these are the guys

00:26:35.400 who will be getting publicity.

00:26:37.720 All right.

00:26:38.980 Jack Posobiec,

00:26:40.220 we're coming to you live

00:26:41.680 right here

00:26:42.320 from the steps of the White House,

00:26:44.340 the front lawn,

00:26:45.140 north lawn of the White House.

00:26:46.740 Very excited now to be joined.

00:26:48.860 I would say sitting down with,

00:26:50.060 but we are standing as it is.

00:26:52.220 But that's okay.

00:26:53.040 We can handle it

00:26:53.700 because we're, you know,

00:26:54.580 we're on the right side of this thing.

00:26:56.380 That we're sitting down with Joe Livornia.

00:26:57.780 He is the counselor

00:26:58.560 to Secretary Scott Best.

00:27:00.000 And Joe, thanks for joining us again.

00:27:01.220 Jack, my pleasure.

00:27:01.860 Thanks for having me.

00:27:02.460 Now, I have to say incredible thanks

00:27:04.840 to Secretary Besant

00:27:06.280 as well as the rest

00:27:07.400 of the White House team

00:27:08.300 for allowing me to accompany them

00:27:10.380 on this really historic trip

00:27:12.220 to Anchorage

00:27:13.880 to sit down with the Russians.

00:27:15.780 Then, of course,

00:27:16.200 Secretary Besant

00:27:16.840 playing a key role

00:27:18.120 in the meetings yesterday

00:27:19.700 with the European leaders.

00:27:21.620 What can you tell us

00:27:22.480 about how the Secretary's office

00:27:23.980 is looking at all of this

00:27:25.620 in terms of the economics of peace?

00:27:28.640 Well, as Secretary Besant said,

00:27:30.900 Jack,

00:27:31.200 the President who works tirelessly

00:27:32.800 is the hardest-working person alive.

00:27:35.400 I don't know how he sleeps if he does.

00:27:37.180 It's trade deals,

00:27:38.640 peace deals,

00:27:40.120 tax deals.

00:27:41.260 It's all of the above.

00:27:42.420 In the U.S.,

00:27:43.020 having to be a very strong economy,

00:27:44.600 as Secretary Besant said,

00:27:45.780 national security

00:27:46.680 and economic security

00:27:48.000 are intertwined.

00:27:49.020 The President has made clear

00:27:50.340 he wants an end

00:27:51.020 to this horrible war,

00:27:52.620 this horrible situation.

00:27:53.720 And he's a phenomenal negotiator.

00:27:56.400 And I think the Secretary,

00:27:57.840 like many others,

00:27:58.520 are optimistic

00:27:59.340 that we're making

00:28:00.720 a lot of good progress

00:28:01.580 and fingers crossed.

00:28:02.860 Well, it certainly seems like it

00:28:04.080 and very rapidly, too,

00:28:05.320 because here we are yesterday.

00:28:06.800 It was just 48 hours

00:28:08.460 after that meeting on Friday.

00:28:10.740 And by the way,

00:28:11.200 you mentioned

00:28:11.800 the President's work ethic.

00:28:13.980 We land at Andrews Air Force Base

00:28:15.980 and it's 2 a.m.,

00:28:17.400 I believe, D.C. time,

00:28:19.280 so Eastern Standard.

00:28:20.740 And we're all waiting to get off.

00:28:22.860 We're all suited up.

00:28:23.620 And then we see

00:28:24.000 the Secret Service sit down.

00:28:25.780 And we're looking around and say,

00:28:26.800 why is the Secret Service sitting down?

00:28:28.120 Isn't it, you know, time to go?

00:28:29.620 And I say,

00:28:29.920 if those guys sit down,

00:28:30.760 they probably know what's going on.

00:28:32.440 And then Caroline comes back 1.00

00:28:34.260 and says,

00:28:35.080 the President is on the phone

00:28:36.460 with one of the NATO leaders

00:28:37.820 and he doesn't want to have

00:28:38.780 to hang up and call back.

00:28:40.200 So we are going to wait.

00:28:41.640 We ended up waiting there

00:28:42.760 for about a...

00:28:43.480 Even after going all the way

00:28:44.780 to Anchorage and back,

00:28:45.620 he's now, at this point,

00:28:46.600 I think worked about 19 hours straight.

00:28:49.520 He's still on the phone

00:28:50.920 at 2 in the morning

00:28:52.020 and we sat there

00:28:53.060 for about another 45 minutes.

00:28:54.960 Pretty awe-inspiring.

00:28:56.280 And that story I've heard

00:28:57.740 in many different permutations

00:28:59.460 many, many, many times over.

00:29:01.120 So it's a...

00:29:05.600 He's, you know,

00:29:06.760 he didn't give me too much,

00:29:08.300 but he said it was a good meeting.

00:29:09.480 It was a good meeting.

00:29:10.280 So I appreciate that.

00:29:11.300 And at the same time,

00:29:12.300 though, kicking back

00:29:13.440 to more on the domestic front,

00:29:14.740 you and I have been talking

00:29:15.700 about this really blue-collar boom

00:29:17.680 that's been going on.

00:29:19.460 What are you seeing

00:29:20.440 in the numbers today

00:29:21.400 that have changed

00:29:22.180 between the last time

00:29:23.200 we spoke and now?

00:29:24.400 Well, you know,

00:29:25.160 a couple of things

00:29:25.800 that the President ran on

00:29:26.800 are very important.

00:29:27.580 One was the border

00:29:28.320 and the other is getting

00:29:29.360 the cost of living down.

00:29:30.400 Both were in crisis situations.

00:29:32.580 Since President Trump

00:29:33.560 has been in office,

00:29:34.280 the annualized inflation rate

00:29:36.340 is less than 2%,

00:29:37.480 1.9% annualized,

00:29:39.520 which is incredible.

00:29:40.360 The price of eggs down

00:29:41.340 over 20%,

00:29:42.400 gas down over 20%,

00:29:43.880 food prices barely up,

00:29:46.180 rents are declining.

00:29:47.140 These are everyday items,

00:29:49.060 goods and services.

00:29:50.300 You know,

00:29:50.480 what you pay,

00:29:51.220 your grocery bill,

00:29:52.200 how to heat or cool your home

00:29:54.460 to live in a home

00:29:56.400 or a rental,

00:29:57.400 whatever it might be.

00:29:58.440 All those costs

00:29:59.180 have come down dramatically

00:30:00.240 and that has caused,

00:30:02.860 Jack, real wages.

00:30:04.260 You take your wage rate,

00:30:05.200 adjust it for inflation,

00:30:06.540 cause your real wage rate

00:30:07.660 to expand.

00:30:08.660 So in the first seven months

00:30:10.220 of the President's term,

00:30:11.580 we've had the second biggest gain

00:30:13.760 in real wages,

00:30:14.840 blue collar wages in particular,

00:30:16.280 on record,

00:30:17.160 eclipsed,

00:30:17.980 and only by a smidgen,

00:30:19.380 President Trump 1.0.

00:30:20.940 So with this one big,

00:30:22.300 beautiful bill passed

00:30:23.160 that Secretary Bess

00:30:24.040 worked very hard on

00:30:25.220 with fulfilling

00:30:26.580 the President's vision,

00:30:27.640 we're going to get

00:30:28.420 faster productivity,

00:30:29.740 we're going to get

00:30:30.160 faster nominal wages,

00:30:31.720 especially with less

00:30:32.580 illegal workers,

00:30:33.720 so there's no more

00:30:34.480 artificial depressant

00:30:36.140 to the market wage rate.

00:30:37.620 So you have low inflation

00:30:38.700 and you have rising nominal wages,

00:30:41.380 so your numerator,

00:30:42.320 for those,

00:30:42.780 your math,

00:30:43.780 your numerator...

00:30:44.180 We're going back to Mr. Corrado

00:30:45.780 would be making sure

00:30:47.300 I'm following this one.

00:30:48.320 Your numerator is going up

00:30:49.700 at the same time

00:30:50.460 your denominator is going down

00:30:51.800 and all you need to know

00:30:52.540 is that U.S. households

00:30:53.920 are going to do great.

00:30:55.580 Well, you know,

00:30:55.940 and just even on a basic level,

00:30:57.640 I had a family member

00:30:59.600 post the other day

00:31:00.360 who said,

00:31:00.880 couldn't believe,

00:31:01.780 here it is the middle of summer

00:31:02.880 and gas is under $3 a gallon

00:31:05.220 and we're talking

00:31:05.900 in some of the high-priced states.

00:31:08.080 That's something

00:31:08.620 that hasn't been seen

00:31:09.240 in a long time

00:31:09.700 because usually you think

00:31:11.000 that if it's in the middle

00:31:11.620 of summer,

00:31:12.040 gas is going to be way up

00:31:13.200 over $3,

00:31:14.460 $3.50,

00:31:15.280 close, you know,

00:31:15.860 maybe even getting close

00:31:16.960 to $4,

00:31:17.480 under $3.

00:31:18.920 By the way,

00:31:19.800 without having to do

00:31:20.720 any of the releases

00:31:22.500 of the strategic petroleum reserve

00:31:24.300 that Biden was doing

00:31:25.220 and everything

00:31:25.880 that he was trying

00:31:26.820 to have,

00:31:27.100 the injection of capital,

00:31:28.480 et cetera,

00:31:28.860 to really cook the books,

00:31:30.200 I think,

00:31:30.540 on a lot

00:31:30.960 and juice the economy,

00:31:32.100 we haven't seen any of that.

00:31:33.340 This is actually doing

00:31:34.680 the hard work

00:31:35.340 both legislatively

00:31:36.240 and economically.

00:31:37.460 Absolutely.

00:31:38.060 I mean,

00:31:38.240 President Trump,

00:31:38.980 I'm sure,

00:31:39.340 put a lot of pressure

00:31:40.120 on OPEC

00:31:40.600 to increase production.

00:31:42.500 Markets are forward-looking,

00:31:43.620 so oil producers

00:31:44.700 are anticipating

00:31:45.660 much friendlier regulation

00:31:47.960 that doesn't crimp

00:31:48.920 and destroy their businesses.

00:31:50.060 You had all this

00:31:50.620 absurd regulation

00:31:52.120 in the previous administration,

00:31:53.660 so the markets reacted positively.

00:31:55.360 For example,

00:31:55.880 Jack,

00:31:56.160 back in January

00:31:57.240 before President Trump

00:31:58.300 took office,

00:31:59.280 oil prices were above $80 a barrel.

00:32:01.360 They're now in the low 60s.

00:32:02.720 That's incredible.

00:32:03.700 And that's the direct result

00:32:04.740 of President Trump's policies.

00:32:06.840 And the best part,

00:32:07.920 again,

00:32:08.100 is that we just passed

00:32:09.380 this one big,

00:32:09.960 beautiful bill,

00:32:10.380 which had a lot

00:32:11.080 of energy investment

00:32:12.400 and permitting

00:32:12.980 and other incentives in it.

00:32:14.560 So we've yet to reap

00:32:16.000 those benefits.

00:32:16.820 That's still the forward.

00:32:18.200 So kudos to the president.

00:32:19.920 It's really just

00:32:21.200 a wonderful situation.

00:32:22.580 Well,

00:32:22.660 and certainly you mentioned

00:32:23.320 the price of oil.

00:32:23.900 That obviously carries

00:32:25.060 a national security component

00:32:26.980 as well

00:32:27.580 when you talk about Russia,

00:32:28.880 when you talk about Iran.

00:32:30.400 Why are these countries

00:32:31.380 as powerful as they are?

00:32:32.340 Well,

00:32:32.440 it's because they are

00:32:33.380 petroleum exporters

00:32:34.340 and because they are

00:32:35.200 key members of OPEC.

00:32:36.600 But with Russia 0.96

00:32:37.300 having the price of oil

00:32:38.680 down $60 a barrel,

00:32:40.020 Iran down to $60 a barrel,

00:32:41.740 they aren't able to fund

00:32:43.200 their external operations

00:32:44.680 as much.

00:32:45.300 Russia,

00:32:45.640 of course,

00:32:46.240 also facing the sanctions.

00:32:47.600 But the possibility,

00:32:48.880 the real possibility

00:32:49.660 of these secondary sanctions,

00:32:51.340 China, India,

00:32:52.520 and others

00:32:53.020 that are still purchasing

00:32:54.040 that petroleum.

00:32:55.080 This has been a huge,

00:32:56.060 I really think,

00:32:56.920 a huge backdrop

00:32:57.740 to a lot of the security

00:32:58.860 discussions that have gone on.

00:33:00.100 Absolutely.

00:33:00.660 And it just shows you

00:33:01.300 how forward-thinking

00:33:02.520 President Trump is.

00:33:03.640 Being a businessman,

00:33:04.460 you notice how

00:33:04.800 the real world works.

00:33:06.260 It reinforces

00:33:07.000 what Secretary Besant said

00:33:08.240 about national security

00:33:09.440 and economic security.

00:33:10.840 Lower oil prices,

00:33:11.760 it's great for U.S. business

00:33:12.800 and also doesn't fund

00:33:14.000 all the terrorism

00:33:14.680 and all those other

00:33:15.280 horrible activities

00:33:16.180 that those high oil prices

00:33:18.480 we had over the previous

00:33:19.500 four years

00:33:20.000 actually winds up accomplishing.

00:33:21.840 It's truly amazing

00:33:22.760 because of all the things

00:33:24.040 that you saw

00:33:24.720 that Biden tried to pull out

00:33:26.100 in terms of,

00:33:26.980 we're going to send

00:33:27.520 more backing for armaments

00:33:30.720 and we're going to send

00:33:31.320 these billions

00:33:31.920 and those billions.

00:33:32.540 You never once saw Biden

00:33:34.180 look at it

00:33:34.900 from an economic perspective

00:33:36.140 and say,

00:33:36.660 well,

00:33:36.780 if we lower these prices,

00:33:38.240 it's not only going to be

00:33:39.340 better for the American people,

00:33:40.580 it's also going to have

00:33:42.080 this component as well.

00:33:43.360 And I have to imagine

00:33:44.020 that's something

00:33:44.660 that the Secretary,

00:33:45.260 I know for a fact,

00:33:46.180 that's something

00:33:46.720 the Secretary has told me

00:33:47.820 is indelibly thinking about

00:33:50.580 on a regular basis

00:33:51.620 because that's been

00:33:52.980 one of the things,

00:33:53.700 I remember the last time

00:33:54.620 we had the Secretary

00:33:55.160 on the program here,

00:33:56.360 he specifically said

00:33:57.520 that national security

00:33:59.500 takes up almost 50%

00:34:00.980 of his portfolio.

00:34:01.940 That's right.

00:34:02.340 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:34:03.960 Think about it.

00:34:04.500 The old expression,

00:34:05.180 common sense isn't that common.

00:34:06.800 Yes.

00:34:07.140 We saw that

00:34:07.780 over the previous four years,

00:34:08.700 you're seeing the President

00:34:09.420 take a very pro-U.S.,

00:34:11.520 pro-growth set of policies

00:34:13.820 that he was elected on

00:34:15.700 in a landslide

00:34:16.580 to basically improve

00:34:18.060 the livelihood

00:34:18.820 and safety of all Americans.

00:34:20.400 And we're seeing that.

00:34:21.880 And Secretary Besson

00:34:22.700 has been excellent

00:34:23.360 in putting that agenda forward

00:34:25.760 and getting it implemented.

00:34:27.540 And thank God

00:34:29.180 we're in a position

00:34:29.840 we're in right now.

00:34:31.300 Well, and that's something

00:34:31.920 that I actually had

00:34:32.600 the opportunity to ask

00:34:33.640 the press secretary

00:34:34.620 just now, moments ago,

00:34:36.260 right before we started

00:34:36.980 the show,

00:34:37.600 regarding this funding.

00:34:39.840 So there's a lot

00:34:41.380 of weapons components,

00:34:43.660 a lot of things

00:34:44.260 that we're asking

00:34:44.720 about how the peace deal

00:34:46.780 will go forward.

00:34:47.880 But one of the things

00:34:48.440 I asked was,

00:34:49.460 and I think we've heard

00:34:50.220 a little bit about this,

00:34:51.560 but this idea that

00:34:52.320 will the U.S. taxpayer

00:34:53.800 be still held on the hook

00:34:56.000 for so many of these outlays

00:34:57.940 to the endless wars?

00:34:59.260 And I think that's something

00:35:00.400 that President Trump

00:35:01.160 has come out and said,

00:35:02.120 absolutely not.

00:35:03.420 Caroline Levitt

00:35:03.920 said the exact same thing.

00:35:05.100 He's going to look

00:35:05.800 for any possible way

00:35:07.340 to get this done.

00:35:08.240 And as President Trump

00:35:09.220 likes to do back

00:35:09.880 when he was a businessman

00:35:10.700 to get it done

00:35:11.620 without having to pay for it.

00:35:12.820 Yeah, but, and Jack,

00:35:13.740 he's been,

00:35:14.340 he's had these views

00:35:15.400 for years and years.

00:35:17.020 These aren't just

00:35:17.800 fly-by-night views.

00:35:18.660 These are beliefs

00:35:20.140 that are very dear to him.

00:35:21.620 He cares about

00:35:22.460 the sanctity of human life.

00:35:23.700 What's happening

00:35:24.200 is horrible.

00:35:25.260 He wants a solution.

00:35:26.480 And he's incredibly thoughtful.

00:35:28.000 And as you alluded to earlier,

00:35:29.840 to say he's a tireless worker

00:35:31.440 is an understatement.

00:35:33.120 They think that's exactly right.

00:35:34.780 Moving back to,

00:35:35.840 by the way,

00:35:36.180 and it just drives me hilarious

00:35:39.620 thinking about this

00:35:40.440 because the price of oil is down.

00:35:42.460 We're seeing jobs numbers

00:35:43.440 in a great spot.

00:35:44.440 Inflation down.

00:35:45.160 Nobody talks about

00:35:45.980 the price of eggs anymore,

00:35:47.420 although that was a refrain

00:35:48.540 that was brought up here

00:35:49.660 at the press speaking room

00:35:50.620 over and over and over

00:35:52.180 in the early days

00:35:53.020 of the administration.

00:35:55.120 The other component

00:35:56.260 that we're seeing

00:35:57.320 to all of this

00:35:58.240 is the idea

00:35:59.260 that general prices

00:36:01.380 are at least down

00:36:02.200 or stabilized

00:36:03.300 to the point

00:36:04.300 where people are now

00:36:05.140 being able to afford

00:36:06.200 living better.

00:36:07.520 Are we also seeing that

00:36:08.560 from, I would say,

00:36:09.320 business leaders?

00:36:10.100 You and I talked about

00:36:10.720 the CapEx numbers

00:36:11.660 the last time we were on.

00:36:12.960 Are you seeing that trend continue?

00:36:14.300 Yes.

00:36:14.320 In particular,

00:36:15.220 small business,

00:36:16.040 you're seeing

00:36:16.560 a now sharp recovery

00:36:17.960 in small business sentiment.

00:36:19.380 And that's important, Jack,

00:36:20.440 because small businesses

00:36:21.840 account for 40%

00:36:23.520 of all jobs.

00:36:24.760 A lot of it's

00:36:25.320 mom-and-pop operations.

00:36:26.860 And the large businesses

00:36:28.100 that we have

00:36:28.720 that we're very proud of

00:36:29.540 ultimately started

00:36:30.240 small businesses.

00:36:30.940 So, yes,

00:36:31.820 you're seeing sentiment

00:36:32.580 improve dramatically

00:36:33.440 on the business side.

00:36:34.380 In fact,

00:36:35.000 perhaps the equity market

00:36:35.980 best reflects that.

00:36:37.180 You're seeing booming

00:36:37.880 stock markets

00:36:38.580 because people

00:36:39.180 are incredibly confident

00:36:40.340 in President Trump's policies

00:36:42.860 and how he's stewarding

00:36:44.540 the economy.

00:36:45.600 And I would think

00:36:47.000 that that sentiment

00:36:47.960 is going to lead

00:36:48.900 to much faster GDP growth,

00:36:50.940 faster employment.

00:36:52.580 And as you alluded to,

00:36:54.060 the inflation rate is

00:36:55.240 Joe, quick break.

00:36:56.940 We're going to take

00:36:57.480 a break here,

00:36:58.120 but I want to get back

00:36:58.920 on that specifically

00:36:59.760 regarding small business.

00:37:01.140 Right back,

00:37:01.580 Jack Posovic,

00:37:02.300 Human Events Daily,

00:37:03.240 Real America's Voice,

00:37:04.000 live at the White House.

00:37:10.480 He's a great guy.

00:37:11.860 He's written a fantastic book.

00:37:13.520 Everybody's talking about it.

00:37:14.720 Go get it.

00:37:15.840 And he's been my friend

00:37:16.800 right from the beginning

00:37:17.740 of this whole beautiful event.

00:37:19.880 And we're going to turn it around

00:37:21.180 and make our country

00:37:22.100 great to get to him.

00:37:23.100 Amen.

00:37:23.360 Obviously, the tariff itself

00:37:26.360 is paid at the port.

00:37:28.140 But what if the producer

00:37:30.020 in the other country

00:37:31.660 has lowered their price

00:37:33.040 to 10, 15, 20 percent

00:37:35.380 so that there is no price change

00:37:37.380 with the tariff?

00:37:38.900 And obviously,

00:37:40.480 our largest trade deficit

00:37:41.740 is with China.

00:37:43.100 And China does not have

00:37:45.180 the same profit objective

00:37:46.460 that other Western democracies do.

00:37:49.060 So that is an employment agency.

00:37:51.900 And my view has been

00:37:53.060 that they would continue

00:37:54.900 to eat the tariffs.

00:37:56.440 They are doing that.

00:37:58.320 So I think what we've seen

00:38:00.340 is likely to continue happening.

00:38:02.580 I also think there are probably

00:38:03.940 a lot of corporate margins

00:38:05.300 that got very fat during COVID.

00:38:07.560 And now we're seeing a return

00:38:09.600 to a normal pre-COVID margin.

00:38:12.900 All right, Joe.

00:38:13.940 So there is Secretary Besant.

00:38:16.300 He's discussing the tariffs.

00:38:17.880 And really the fact

00:38:19.060 that the results of the tariffs

00:38:21.460 have not been

00:38:22.100 what was so loudly warned about.

00:38:25.900 And the word panicking

00:38:26.980 has been used a number of times

00:38:28.080 by the White House.

00:38:29.820 The panic has not happened.

00:38:31.580 In fact,

00:38:32.320 what Secretary Besant says there

00:38:33.620 is clear,

00:38:34.520 this is being eaten by China. 0.97

00:38:35.940 It's being eaten by the producer.

00:38:37.720 They are the ones conducting the export.

00:38:40.440 And whereas the United States,

00:38:42.180 our stock market has been booming.

00:38:44.840 The S&P just came out,

00:38:46.480 reaffirmed our credit rating

00:38:48.740 and specifically cited the tariffs

00:38:51.580 in doing so.

00:38:53.360 What do we account for all this?

00:38:55.020 President Trump highlighted, Jack,

00:38:56.640 that it wasn't going to be a factor.

00:38:58.200 And Secretary Besant said it as well.

00:38:59.840 So they were correct

00:39:00.640 and very anticipatory.

00:39:02.500 We are generating record amounts

00:39:04.080 of tariff revenue.

00:39:05.060 The July numbers put us on track

00:39:07.320 for about $300 billion

00:39:09.020 for the calendar year,

00:39:09.980 maybe more.

00:39:10.600 The CBO,

00:39:12.120 Congressional Budget Office,

00:39:13.380 did not score that

00:39:14.220 because it's technically

00:39:15.260 not part of current law.

00:39:17.860 But they said it could raise

00:39:19.200 almost $3 trillion.

00:39:20.760 If the economy grows

00:39:22.340 at 3%

00:39:23.380 in line with what happened

00:39:24.960 during President Trump's first term,

00:39:26.740 that's an extra $4 trillion

00:39:28.320 in revenue.

00:39:29.500 So if you take

00:39:30.100 a strong growth backdrop,

00:39:31.380 that's the hallmark

00:39:32.600 of President Trump's past,

00:39:35.000 and you take the tariffs,

00:39:36.920 the budget outlook

00:39:37.820 can look excellent,

00:39:39.080 very, very positive.

00:39:40.620 The rating agencies,

00:39:41.720 one of them today

00:39:42.440 at least sort of highlighted that,

00:39:43.660 but they're generally pessimistic.

00:39:44.940 But it's good to see them

00:39:46.000 kind of coming

00:39:46.520 more back into reality.

00:39:48.280 And you're correct.

00:39:49.420 The tariffs have not had an effect

00:39:51.080 on measured inflation.

00:39:52.500 As I said earlier,

00:39:53.600 the inflation rate

00:39:54.440 has been 2%

00:39:55.980 since President Trump took office.

00:39:57.820 Things like automobiles,

00:39:58.820 which are very sensitive to tariffs,

00:40:01.280 those are actually down

00:40:02.720 over 2%

00:40:03.620 since the tariff collection

00:40:05.080 started to pick up in earnest

00:40:06.260 back in April.

00:40:07.300 So President Trump

00:40:08.080 was exactly correct.

00:40:09.960 The exporter,

00:40:11.260 these countries,

00:40:12.020 are absorbing the bulk

00:40:13.060 of these tariffs.

00:40:15.340 And President Trump

00:40:16.220 was proven right again.

00:40:17.660 And so while this is going on,

00:40:19.740 you just mentioned,

00:40:20.860 and let me put this

00:40:22.060 all together here,

00:40:22.860 because you just mentioned

00:40:23.960 that small business,

00:40:26.140 their attitude

00:40:27.260 is actually becoming

00:40:28.420 far more positive

00:40:29.360 when we were told originally

00:40:30.800 that the tariffs

00:40:31.400 are going to destroy

00:40:32.060 small businesses.

00:40:32.960 No, not at all.

00:40:33.700 I mean,

00:40:33.860 you have the continuation

00:40:34.720 of the 2017 Trump tax cuts.

00:40:37.600 You have the no tax on tips

00:40:39.040 and over time

00:40:39.760 that will increase

00:40:40.540 labor supply,

00:40:42.120 reduce tax on seniors.

00:40:43.360 That may help lift

00:40:44.180 their participation rates.

00:40:45.720 It's all about producing

00:40:46.900 more of the goods

00:40:47.820 and services

00:40:48.420 that the economy wants

00:40:50.140 because President Trump

00:40:51.160 as a businessman

00:40:51.880 knows how the real world works.

00:40:54.500 And if you help

00:40:55.240 small businesses,

00:40:55.900 which are the backbone

00:40:56.780 of hiring,

00:40:57.860 they will thrive.

00:40:59.220 The tariffs are important 0.99

00:41:00.380 in incentivizing

00:41:01.440 foreign companies

00:41:02.340 and countries

00:41:02.960 to allocate capital

00:41:04.040 to the U.S.

00:41:04.820 You've seen that

00:41:05.680 in the trillions of dollars

00:41:06.700 of money coming back in.

00:41:08.300 They've got low tax rates.

00:41:09.980 They've got pro-growth,

00:41:11.820 proper business

00:41:12.860 regulatory policies.

00:41:14.080 In other words,

00:41:14.500 the administration

00:41:14.960 is looking to help business,

00:41:16.600 not hurt business

00:41:17.660 because if you hurt business,

00:41:18.580 you hurt the people

00:41:19.180 that work there.

00:41:20.080 And you've got low

00:41:20.980 and abundant,

00:41:21.920 low and abundant,

00:41:23.080 or I should say,

00:41:23.820 cheap and abundant

00:41:24.360 energy prices,

00:41:25.280 which is important

00:41:26.020 in terms of producing things.

00:41:27.320 So it all works

00:41:28.360 together cohesively.

00:41:29.320 And that's why, Jack,

00:41:31.000 if you look at the data

00:41:31.940 under President Trump's

00:41:33.020 first term,

00:41:33.620 small business sentiment,

00:41:35.320 their optimism

00:41:36.040 had never been higher

00:41:37.560 under any president,

00:41:39.400 Democrat or Republican,

00:41:40.540 than it was

00:41:40.960 under President Trump's

00:41:42.080 first term.

00:41:43.000 That's going back 40 years.

00:41:44.820 And there's no question

00:41:45.860 with President Trump's policies,

00:41:47.720 again,

00:41:48.200 you're going to see

00:41:48.660 a similar euphoria.

00:41:50.180 Well, and it just flies

00:41:51.800 in the face of what

00:41:52.600 we were told

00:41:53.120 was the conventional wisdom.

00:41:54.780 I remember people

00:41:55.580 blowing up regarding tariffs,

00:41:57.220 saying that there's

00:41:57.800 no possible way

00:41:58.700 this is going to work.

00:41:59.820 It can't be done.

00:42:00.820 And it seems, though,

00:42:02.100 that the difference here

00:42:03.420 is that,

00:42:04.340 and by the way,

00:42:05.180 I'm just going to say it,

00:42:06.160 this is one of the reasons

00:42:07.080 that you're seeing

00:42:07.620 in places like New York

00:42:08.720 the rise of politicians

00:42:10.360 like Azorah Mamdami,

00:42:12.100 because he's speaking

00:42:13.300 to people that have been

00:42:14.180 caught in so many

00:42:15.200 economic tailwinds,

00:42:16.720 especially Denzi

00:42:17.600 and younger millennials,

00:42:18.900 that they want to

00:42:20.400 tear the entire system down,

00:42:22.540 whereas what President Trump

00:42:23.540 is offering

00:42:24.040 is a way

00:42:24.680 to raise the floor

00:42:26.680 so that he brings

00:42:27.580 everybody up

00:42:28.860 rather than

00:42:30.020 having to tear

00:42:30.680 anyone down

00:42:31.300 in the process.

00:42:32.360 That's exactly right.

00:42:33.280 I think New York

00:42:33.940 is probably a unique case,

00:42:35.260 but if you look

00:42:35.680 at the president

00:42:36.260 and how he performed

00:42:37.220 last November,

00:42:38.440 he did extraordinarily well

00:42:39.980 among working-class voters,

00:42:41.940 African-Americans,

00:42:43.760 Hispanics.

00:42:44.680 His numbers went up

00:42:45.600 significantly

00:42:46.200 by historic amounts,

00:42:48.100 where he didn't pull

00:42:49.440 well at the elites

00:42:50.260 and the globalists

00:42:51.500 who have basically

00:42:52.020 been wrong on almost everything,

00:42:53.360 if not everything.

00:42:54.400 Well, that's exactly right,

00:42:55.300 because who does this hurt?

00:42:56.460 This hurts anyone

00:42:57.300 if you're in that business,

00:42:59.040 if you're in the business

00:43:00.000 of selling out the country,

00:43:01.200 if you're in the business

00:43:01.940 of importing these products,

00:43:03.020 you're in the business

00:43:03.760 of cutting down

00:43:05.300 outsourcing American jobs,

00:43:07.740 shutting down American factories,

00:43:09.520 all the rest of it,

00:43:10.400 yes,

00:43:10.720 then that would potentially

00:43:11.600 hurt you a little bit,

00:43:12.680 but it turns out

00:43:13.320 that that is a tiny sliver

00:43:15.040 of people,

00:43:15.640 and the vast majority

00:43:16.600 of people

00:43:17.120 do not fall in that bucket.

00:43:18.660 Jack,

00:43:18.920 the American people

00:43:19.520 are smart.

00:43:20.220 Thank God

00:43:20.960 there's more alternatives

00:43:22.140 than the mainstream media

00:43:23.260 that existed

00:43:23.920 a handful of years ago,

00:43:26.380 and they know,

00:43:27.400 and to the extent

00:43:28.240 that the experts,

00:43:29.500 the so-called experts

00:43:30.200 are wrong again,

00:43:31.380 they're going to lose

00:43:31.780 more and more credibility.

00:43:32.960 There's other outlets

00:43:33.760 such as your platform

00:43:35.480 that people get

00:43:36.040 great information from,

00:43:37.460 and eventually

00:43:38.540 they'll become

00:43:38.900 more and more irrelevant,

00:43:40.260 meaning the so-called experts.

00:43:42.340 Well, I have to say again,

00:43:43.720 just very grateful

00:43:44.380 to the administration

00:43:45.100 for the access

00:43:45.940 they've allowed

00:43:46.720 our network,

00:43:48.000 Real America's Voice,

00:43:48.760 and even myself personally

00:43:49.940 being able to travel

00:43:51.400 alongside the delegation

00:43:52.720 on Air Force One

00:43:53.900 on Friday,

00:43:55.060 even being brought

00:43:55.840 into the White House

00:43:56.560 yesterday

00:43:56.980 for that multilateral meeting,

00:43:58.520 and then today

00:43:59.180 to be in the new media seat.

00:44:00.860 Something that,

00:44:01.660 and you guys

00:44:02.860 over at Treasury,

00:44:03.560 I mean,

00:44:03.700 you've had us on

00:44:04.200 more than anyone,

00:44:05.060 and I have to say

00:44:05.920 it's really something

00:44:07.580 that the administration

00:44:08.560 will never,

00:44:09.540 ever get credit for,

00:44:10.660 just being so transparent,

00:44:12.180 and to anyone out there,

00:44:13.040 I'll even just say,

00:44:14.000 if you've got a blog,

00:44:15.040 if you've got a YouTube channel,

00:44:16.280 if you've got a big social media account,

00:44:18.060 just go ahead

00:44:18.660 and reach out

00:44:19.120 to the press office

00:44:19.780 and see if you can come in

00:44:20.920 on a day pass.

00:44:21.780 I guarantee you,

00:44:23.120 you'll probably get one.

00:44:24.260 Jack,

00:44:24.440 President Trump

00:44:24.880 has three words for it.

00:44:26.260 The golden era.

00:44:28.260 The golden era.

00:44:29.480 It really is

00:44:30.420 as simple as that.

00:44:31.160 Joe,

00:44:31.440 thank you so much

00:44:32.080 for joining us here today,

00:44:33.200 Human Events Daily,

00:44:35.240 here at the White House.

00:44:36.840 Folks,

00:44:37.100 we are so excited

00:44:37.920 to have been here today.

00:44:39.280 We're so excited

00:44:39.980 to have been here

00:44:41.220 on the spot.

00:44:42.620 I'll take it from here.

00:44:44.280 And folks,

00:44:46.020 just wrapping up

00:44:46.900 the last couple of days

00:44:48.080 that we've seen

00:44:48.940 the Anchorage,

00:44:50.460 the NHO's got to run there,

00:44:51.960 but the Anchorage Accords.

00:44:53.780 People asking so many questions

00:44:55.520 about where that's going to go

00:44:57.340 for the American people.

00:44:58.960 People asking

00:44:59.620 where it will go

00:45:00.260 for the Ukrainian people.

00:45:01.440 Will there be U.S. boots

00:45:02.780 on the ground?

00:45:04.060 This absolutely being

00:45:05.760 a key question.

00:45:07.020 But I also wanted to tie it

00:45:08.240 to the economics,

00:45:09.400 both when I was in the White House

00:45:10.900 during the press briefing

00:45:12.200 earlier today,

00:45:13.000 as well as talking

00:45:13.940 with Joe LaVornia,

00:45:15.920 who is, of course,

00:45:16.620 the counselor

00:45:17.080 to Secretary Besant,

00:45:18.520 the Secretary of the Treasury,

00:45:19.620 because there's a money angle

00:45:20.940 affecting all of this.

00:45:23.220 How much

00:45:23.820 of our hard-earned

00:45:25.560 taxpayer dollars

00:45:26.840 are going to be funding

00:45:28.020 anything

00:45:28.760 that comes forward

00:45:30.100 after this?

00:45:31.120 People have seen

00:45:31.760 one of the key reasons

00:45:32.800 that President Trump

00:45:33.520 was able to win the election

00:45:34.460 is because people

00:45:35.380 would turn on the news

00:45:36.540 or fire up social media

00:45:37.880 every morning.

00:45:38.740 They scroll their phone

00:45:39.800 and see another $10 billion

00:45:41.900 to Ukraine,

00:45:42.780 another $20 billion

00:45:43.700 to some foreign country

00:45:44.820 in the Middle East.

00:45:45.880 Billions and billions

00:45:46.900 of dollars

00:45:47.520 that was not going

00:45:48.740 directly to the United States,

00:45:51.660 directly to the American taxpayer.

00:45:53.540 And, of course,

00:45:54.120 we understand how this works.

00:45:55.940 We do not have

00:45:57.080 an unlimited supply of money,

00:45:58.980 regardless of what

00:45:59.640 the Federal Reserve thinks.

00:46:01.300 So there are only

00:46:02.020 a few ways to get it.

00:46:03.020 You can print it,

00:46:04.100 you can tax it,

00:46:04.920 or you can borrow it.

00:46:07.120 And the idea is,

00:46:08.100 of course,

00:46:09.140 you're not going to be able

00:46:09.660 to get rid of the Federal Government.

00:46:10.940 All right,

00:46:11.160 so my Libertarian brethren

00:46:12.280 out there,

00:46:13.020 sorry,

00:46:13.400 it's probably not going to happen.

00:46:14.980 But the best way

00:46:16.120 to deal with it,

00:46:17.240 the very best way

00:46:18.100 to deal with it,

00:46:18.860 is, of course,

00:46:19.680 to do so

00:46:20.520 in a proper governance method.

00:46:25.160 Good governance.

00:46:26.380 Good governance,

00:46:27.320 that means

00:46:27.740 governing for the people.

00:46:29.640 Are the people benefiting

00:46:31.040 from this

00:46:31.560 the widest array of people?

00:46:33.080 Because, look,

00:46:33.820 and I was on Worm this morning

00:46:34.760 talking about Zora Mandami.

00:46:36.380 You're either going to get MAGA

00:46:37.500 or you're going to get Mandami.

00:46:40.200 Folks,

00:46:40.640 this is Jack Posobiec

00:46:41.720 signing off

00:46:42.460 here at the White House.

00:46:43.580 Thanks again

00:46:43.940 to the Real America's Voice team

00:46:45.580 for supporting

00:46:46.060 everything that we've done

00:46:47.140 over the past few days.

00:46:48.300 Ladies and gentlemen,

00:46:48.780 as always,

00:46:49.260 you have my permission

00:46:49.860 to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 19, 2025

Live From The White House - “No US Troops On The Ground In Ukraine”

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