Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 19, 2025


Live From The White House - “No US Troops On The Ground In Ukraine”


Episode Stats

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46 minutes

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184.69815

Word Count

8,652

Sentence Count

590

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Jack Posobiec, a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, joins us in our new media seat at the White House to discuss the status of peace talks between the United States and Russia on Ukraine.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:40.180 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:46.740 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:49.820 Christ is king.
00:00:50.900 Here in our new media seat today, we have Jack Posobiec, who joined us in Anchorage, Alaska last week.
00:00:55.680 Jack, thanks for being here.
00:00:56.640 Why don't you kick us off?
00:00:57.780 Caroline, thanks so much.
00:00:58.820 So a couple of questions regarding the status of these peace talks.
00:01:03.020 Obviously, we saw the President and President Putin there in Anchorage.
00:01:06.720 We saw the world leaders here yesterday with this summit.
00:01:09.700 We've heard phrases like coalition of the willing.
00:01:12.060 We've also heard Article 5-like guarantees.
00:01:15.000 When it comes to the security guarantees, what is the current status of that?
00:01:19.320 I know the President earlier today mentioned boots on the ground would be U.K., France, Germany, possibly, but unequivocally said no U.S. troops on the ground, but U.S. coordination.
00:01:29.720 Can you elaborate on that, and what would the red lines be?
00:01:32.380 Sure.
00:01:32.780 Well, you got to the heart of what I was going to say to all of you today on security guarantees,
00:01:37.340 which is the President has definitively stated U.S. boots will not be on the ground in Ukraine.
00:01:42.280 But we can certainly help in the coordination and perhaps provide other means of security guarantees to our European allies.
00:01:49.140 The President understands security guarantees are crucially important to ensure a lasting peace.
00:01:53.940 And he has directed his national security team to coordinate with our friends in Europe
00:01:58.900 and also to continue to cooperate and discuss these matters with Ukraine and Russia as well.
00:02:04.320 Helen, now, have the Russians responded at all?
00:02:06.820 I know we spoke with President Putin last night.
00:02:08.500 What has been their response?
00:02:09.920 Because we've heard some reports from the Kremlin and others saying they're unequivocally against NATO troops on the ground.
00:02:15.460 Well, look, the President continues to have these conversations with both leaders.
00:02:19.400 Those conversations took place in Anchorage, Alaska, again yesterday with the Europeans and President Zelensky.
00:02:25.480 And he has directed his team to come up with a framework for these security guarantees that can be acceptable to help ensure a lasting peace and end this war.
00:02:33.360 And then just last question real quick on this.
00:02:35.480 Regarding some of the funding, we're hearing questions about another round of weapon sales
00:02:40.820 or possibly a round of U.S. purchases of Ukrainian drones.
00:02:45.060 Will that money be funded by the U.S. taxpayers?
00:02:48.020 Are we finally going to see an end to the U.S. taxpayer-funded, seemingly endless mandate for these foreign wars?
00:02:54.460 Well, the President is very sensitive to the needs of the American taxpayer.
00:02:58.780 And immediately upon entering office back in January, he made it very clear that we're not going to continue writing blank checks to fund a war very far away,
00:03:06.320 which is why he came up with a very creative solution to have NATO purchase American weaponry,
00:03:12.080 because it is the best in the world, and then to backfill the needs of the Ukrainian army and the Ukrainian people and their military.
00:03:19.260 So that's the solution the President has came up with.
00:03:21.900 We'll continue to see that forward.
00:03:23.580 As for any additional sales, I'll have to defer you to the President of Defense.
00:03:29.120 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition here of Human Events Daily.
00:03:34.380 We are live at the White House.
00:03:37.860 Today is August 19, 2025.
00:03:39.260 I want to thank Caroline Levitt for allowing me the opportunity to sit in the new media seat earlier today,
00:03:48.540 just a few moments ago, at the White House press briefing,
00:03:52.160 and having that opportunity to ask some very serious questions about what's going on here in the White House
00:04:00.040 and in these discussions, very high-level discussions, high stakes, as President Trump stated earlier,
00:04:05.820 regarding the United States, Russia, Ukraine, and potential security guarantees.
00:04:11.920 One of the things that I really tried to drive home on this was, number one, will U.S. troops be on the ground?
00:04:18.260 President Trump, I know, spoke this morning about that and said unequivocally no U.S. troops on the ground.
00:04:22.880 But at the same time, he mentioned something about U.S. coordination.
00:04:27.020 And so what would that mean?
00:04:28.380 What would that look like?
00:04:29.280 I've talked before about a potential Syrianization of the Ukraine conflict,
00:04:34.920 whereby in NATO forces or coalition forces would come in.
00:04:39.140 That is something that the president spoke about earlier today,
00:04:41.740 and I also questioned Press Secretary Levitt about this.
00:04:45.360 U.K., German, French troops, will they be on the ground in Ukraine to provide a sort of security guarantee?
00:04:53.560 And if so, by the way, will the Russians agree to this at all?
00:04:57.780 Because as these conversations go, these are all proposals that do not merit any weight
00:05:05.020 until, of course, they can be agreed to by the Russians.
00:05:08.740 That is the biggest part of it.
00:05:09.820 And the president understands this as well.
00:05:11.340 That's, of course, why he decided to take the time yesterday, cut the meeting early,
00:05:15.740 and then go and get Vladimir Putin himself, the leader of Russia, on the phone to discuss this,
00:05:21.340 in addition to a potential bilateral meeting, a sit-down between Zelensky and Putin directly,
00:05:27.160 that would precede a trilateral meeting of the three leaders, President Trump, President Putin, President Zelensky.
00:05:34.460 And, of course, the final question that I asked while I was there,
00:05:38.260 will this mean an end to the era of endless U.S. taxpayer-funded mandates for these endless wars overseas?
00:05:49.100 Because the American people, this is something they voted for in 2024.
00:05:52.440 We see it every single day.
00:05:53.400 They keep asking, why, oh, why are we spending tens of billions of dollars on wars all around the world,
00:06:00.780 protecting borders that are not ours and ones that do not have a direct interest for the American citizen?
00:06:09.940 Of course, we've now seen with this administration deployments to the southern border,
00:06:14.060 deployments of now the U.S. Navy and a task force there in Southcom.
00:06:17.520 That was one of the other topics that came up, this idea of moving back towards a hemispheric defense.
00:06:23.500 And Caroline Levitt also confirmed that more than likely that money would be coming from either the EU
00:06:29.740 or from Ukraine in some capacity, these EU nations, allowing them, as President Trump has always said,
00:06:36.040 to pay for their own defense.
00:06:38.400 One of the only other questions, if I'd had a chance to ask a fourth question,
00:06:41.340 but that's how it goes in the format of these discussions,
00:06:43.720 I would have potentially brought up this idea that's been floated regarding a U.N. resolution.
00:06:50.940 Would it be possible for people asking regarding a permanent security framework,
00:06:55.960 would it be possible for a U.N. Security Council resolution
00:06:59.940 to be brought up enshrining all of these peace deals and security guarantees
00:07:05.100 so that it lasts even long after President Trump is out of office?
00:07:09.160 This is Jack Posobiec. We're here live at the White House, on the grounds, Human Events Daily.
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00:09:09.640 All right, guys.
00:09:10.340 So we're here at the White House currently.
00:09:14.200 I'm still working on getting my audio back up right now.
00:09:17.500 By the way, special thanks to the Real America's Voice team being flexible with us.
00:09:21.080 Didn't even know 24 hours ago that I'd be here back at the White House doing the new media seat again.
00:09:26.860 But, hey, when they invite, you've got to come in.
00:09:30.020 And when it comes down to this, U.S., Russia, Ukraine talking about issues of war and peace,
00:09:35.880 this is absolutely something that it is seminal that we need to be here for because it's just that important.
00:09:41.760 Someone else who also understands the importance of this is Michael Knowles of The Daily Wire.
00:09:46.200 He joins us now.
00:09:47.020 What's up, Knowles?
00:09:48.280 Great to be with you, sir.
00:09:50.020 I think I recognize that building behind you.
00:09:52.620 I think, have I seen it before?
00:09:56.680 No, no.
00:09:57.380 This is actually just a set.
00:09:59.560 So we've constructed an elaborate set for my show due to my exacting standards.
00:10:05.800 Just like Joe Biden.
00:10:06.920 I remember that.
00:10:07.880 They pretended Joe Biden was in the Oval Office.
00:10:09.940 That's good.
00:10:10.340 I'm glad that you could have a similar setup.
00:10:11.720 We got it.
00:10:15.340 Basically, we got it at a fire sale.
00:10:17.000 They said they were trying to get rid of it because Joe Biden's there.
00:10:19.220 But don't worry, because we performed an exorcism before we set foot on it.
00:10:24.100 That's good.
00:10:24.660 Very wise.
00:10:25.680 I think, actually, the last time I saw you at the White House, you may have even rosary checked me.
00:10:29.960 I can't quite recall, but that would be fitting.
00:10:32.260 I definitely rosary checked you.
00:10:36.080 And, in fact, my rosary is just out of reach right now in my bag because I took it out of my pocket so I could go on air.
00:10:42.840 But, Knowles, we're talking about the rosary because we're praying today.
00:10:46.420 President Trump made reference to this earlier that so much of this, choosing peace over war, it really is a spiritual choice, isn't it?
00:10:55.120 Of course.
00:10:56.740 And not to get too into the weeds on everything, but the Alaska Summit took place on the Feast of the Assumption of Mary.
00:11:04.040 Mary, who now for 100 years we've recognized that she will play a role in the Christianization of Russia, prayers throughout the Catholic Church for Russia to be consecrated to Mary.
00:11:16.320 So, you know, I know for our friends out there who are Protestant and Jewish and irreligious, this all sounds probably kind of wacky.
00:11:22.880 But to the Catholics in the audience, the timing seems providential, and Trump does seem like the president for peace.
00:11:29.220 I mean, the guy has a very good record on this, how quickly we moved from the Alaska Summit.
00:11:34.200 Trump and Putin both left early.
00:11:35.900 They didn't even have lunch, and so people thought it didn't go well.
00:11:38.560 But the press conference seemed to go well, and they didn't get the ceasefire.
00:11:42.700 But they are moving forward with then the meeting with Zelensky and the European leaders.
00:11:46.600 And all of this reads to me as if Trump wants to get a deal done fast, and he might very well do it.
00:11:54.600 Well, and not only that, but one of the things that I noted, and, you know, my wife Tanya being Orthodox, so we're mending the schism here,
00:12:01.780 is that normally the Catholic and Orthodox calendars, they don't quite match up.
00:12:06.160 So even though we have many of the same feast days, it's not usual, you know, people know their Christmas is on a different date,
00:12:11.760 their Easter is on a different date.
00:12:13.660 However, for whatever reason, I haven't dug into it so completely yet, as it turns out,
00:12:18.480 the Russians, who are all Orthodox, that were coming on the delegation,
00:12:21.520 it was also the Orthodox feast of the Assumption, in addition to being the Western feast of the Assumption.
00:12:29.020 And I was thinking, this is incredible, because this hardly ever happens.
00:12:31.860 And, in fact, Putin went and met with one of the Russian Orthodox leaders in Alaska,
00:12:37.300 because that's one of the legacies of the Russian Empire having control of the Alaskan territory,
00:12:41.620 is there's a ton of Orthodox.
00:12:42.900 In fact, the Inuit up in Alaska, a ton of them are Russian Orthodox because of this.
00:12:48.540 And so it's very interesting timing with both feast days lining up.
00:12:52.900 You know, there's a great line,
00:12:54.200 All nature is but art unknown to thee, all chance direction which thou canst not see.
00:12:58.100 So, you know, we believe that Providence governs all of history,
00:13:02.020 and sometimes it's a little clearer than at other times.
00:13:04.560 But I'm just taken by what President Trump said to Emmanuel Macron when he was caught on that hot mic.
00:13:10.580 He said, I think Putin wants to do a deal with me, as crazy as that sounds.
00:13:16.400 And I love both sides of that statement,
00:13:18.520 because he's clearly trying to wrangle the Europeans and Zelensky.
00:13:21.420 But he seemed totally sincere, and he said, look, you know,
00:13:24.540 I went there to Alaska, and I think Putin actually wants to do a deal.
00:13:29.040 I know that sounds crazy.
00:13:30.180 The Ukraine war has been going on for 11 years,
00:13:32.280 and we've been in a Cold War with a little bit of a break with Russia since the 1940s.
00:13:37.420 But I think he wants to do a deal.
00:13:40.680 And so, you know, if they can wrangle this, if they can really make it happen,
00:13:45.440 Trump will be the greatest geopolitical president of my lifetime, probably.
00:13:50.180 He probably even edges out George H.W. Bush, which is a guarantee that he will never, ever get the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:13:58.300 Well, and that's exactly what I asked about in the press conference just now,
00:14:02.680 because, you know, people want to take a step back and say, okay, he's done this deal, he's done this deal,
00:14:06.460 he's got this, the Congo, and, you know, he's getting Rwanda involved,
00:14:10.260 and all these, you know, far-flung leaders bring him Azerbaijan and Armenia,
00:14:15.040 the oldest Christian nation, by the way, Armenia, and so many others.
00:14:18.000 But what it really constitutes is this idea, the promise that he made,
00:14:22.000 which I do believe is, in many ways, a spiritual promise,
00:14:24.940 to say we are going to end the era of the endless wars.
00:14:28.940 In addition to that, the endless funding by the U.S. taxpayer,
00:14:33.160 it's a total difference of philosophy that the United States isn't going to be
00:14:38.060 this sort of global empire where our job is to go around and sort of demand
00:14:42.420 how every country in the world is going to interact.
00:14:46.040 And instead, we're going to be a good actor, we're going to have these trade deals,
00:14:49.300 we're going to use that economic basis to hopefully, you know,
00:14:53.760 ensue good action from our various compatriots in the world.
00:14:58.040 But it's totally different than using the bayonet,
00:15:00.760 as you just mentioned, with George W. Bush.
00:15:02.960 And even, by the way, for the people who don't want to go all the way
00:15:08.240 toward a firmly nationalistic view of U.S. policy
00:15:11.320 and, you know, pulling away from our intervention in the rest of the world,
00:15:14.700 even on a purely imperial basis,
00:15:17.120 it would probably be a pretty smart idea for the United States,
00:15:20.840 which has to counter a growing China, to maybe triangulate a little bit
00:15:24.760 and maybe try to split Russia off of China.
00:15:26.800 Because the consequence of the Biden policy
00:15:28.680 was to push our two clearest geopolitical adversaries further together.
00:15:32.940 That poses economic dangers, that poses strategic dangers, security dangers.
00:15:38.220 And then also from the reporting, again, we don't totally know what's real at this point,
00:15:43.040 but we're also being told that Putin has agreed to Western security guarantees in Ukraine.
00:15:47.320 So, you know, all of the panic hands, as Trump called them,
00:15:51.740 said that any Trump deal is going to threaten American hegemony,
00:15:55.360 threaten the global order, sell out Europe to Putin or whatever.
00:15:58.460 It seems like none of that is coming to pass.
00:16:00.920 And if you think, as most Americans seemed to think,
00:16:04.520 that four years under Biden and before the first Trump term,
00:16:08.060 eight years under Obama had left America weaker and more vulnerable,
00:16:11.680 then I think the only option is to pursue a different course.
00:16:14.440 Trump is doing it, and he seems to be having a lot of success with it.
00:16:19.620 I think that's right.
00:16:20.480 Now, before we run to break, we have a couple of minutes.
00:16:22.360 I've got to ask you this.
00:16:23.700 President Trump started another debate raging online this morning.
00:16:28.080 I hear there's some mainstream media articles being written up about it
00:16:30.720 because he said in an interview earlier today
00:16:32.960 that he hopes that he can achieve peace
00:16:35.320 because he wants to get to heaven if he's able to save a lot of lives.
00:16:40.860 Michael Knowles, is he talking about a works-based justification for salvation?
00:16:47.640 Of course, you know, leave it to the conservatives and the Christians
00:16:51.560 never to be able to take yes for an answer.
00:16:54.440 But I'll tell you, after living through years and decades,
00:16:58.660 it's this classic, you know, materialist, secular, atheist nonsense,
00:17:02.720 and you have a president who's speaking in religious terms.
00:17:06.200 And by the way, this isn't the first time.
00:17:08.240 And for a guy who came within one-twentieth of an inch
00:17:11.340 of having his head blown off in Butler,
00:17:13.120 that does make you think about the final things.
00:17:15.340 To realize that this man, who is a symbol of luxury and material abundance,
00:17:19.680 thinking about maybe going to heaven, I think that's mighty fine.
00:17:23.400 And we don't need to worry about the Heresiarch Pelagius.
00:17:26.520 We dealt with him about 1,700 years ago.
00:17:29.480 Let's let President Trump keep on cooking.
00:17:31.280 I think it's exactly right.
00:17:35.780 In fact, it's funny because I'm not going to name names,
00:17:38.400 but I brought it up even here at the White House.
00:17:40.820 I said, you know, because I know that we've got sort of the, you know,
00:17:44.180 people who say, okay, well, that's totally fine
00:17:46.300 because you're from the Catholic background or an Orthodox background.
00:17:49.000 But then you've also, you've got plenty of evangelicals
00:17:51.280 and mainline Protestants and others here say, well, hold on a second.
00:17:55.380 I think salvation only is enough to get to heaven.
00:17:58.660 I said, all right, guys, I don't know what he's getting into.
00:18:01.280 What is the line, you are justified by your works and not by faith alone?
00:18:04.980 Faith without works is dead.
00:18:06.660 I don't know.
00:18:07.260 I'm reminded.
00:18:07.940 I don't know that all this scripture is going to be debated in the West Wing today.
00:18:11.000 Is that from some book?
00:18:12.900 I don't know.
00:18:14.140 That book.
00:18:15.480 Somewhere in there.
00:18:16.220 You know, you talk about influences.
00:18:24.500 These are influences and they're friends of mine.
00:18:28.760 Jack Posobiec.
00:18:30.260 Where's Jack?
00:18:31.180 Jack.
00:18:32.220 He's done a great job.
00:18:33.680 All right, Jack Posobiec.
00:18:37.680 We're back here live from the North Lawn of the White House.
00:18:42.200 We're on with Michael Knowles.
00:18:44.220 And, you know, we were talking about this comment that President Trump actually made earlier today
00:18:48.880 regarding will he get to heaven by saving lives, by stopping wars,
00:18:53.460 and how this has kicked off a theological debate.
00:18:56.060 And it perhaps is fitting because Michael Knowles has a new docu-series out
00:19:02.080 all about the secret Vatican files of World War II.
00:19:06.040 And I believe we have the trailer.
00:19:06.880 Let's play it now.
00:19:08.280 History is written by the victors.
00:19:11.960 But what if the victors got it wrong?
00:19:18.020 For 80 years, the world has condemned one man as the Pope of Silence,
00:19:23.180 the man who stood by in the face of shocking evil.
00:19:29.120 But can we trust the popular narrative?
00:19:32.660 Even after all these years?
00:19:34.720 This is not just a story about Hitler and the Holocaust.
00:19:38.360 One of the worst lies ever told about the Catholic Church
00:19:41.380 is what she did or did not do in one of modernity's darkest hours.
00:19:46.940 Now, for the first time, the Vatican's secret archive is open,
00:19:50.280 and the truth is far more shocking than the fiction.
00:19:54.320 Propagandists have peddled one story for decades.
00:19:57.040 But now we can definitively know better.
00:20:00.300 Join me in this four-part series.
00:20:02.080 Where we will discover the true story of Pope Pius XII, Hitler, and the Second World War.
00:20:07.300 This is wild.
00:20:11.360 Michael Knowles, you've put together the docu-series.
00:20:14.180 Walk us through how this came about and why you decided to put it together now.
00:20:19.360 Well, Jack, we all know that the news is fake a lot of the time.
00:20:24.080 And if you think the news is fake, just wait until you see what propagandists have done to history.
00:20:29.800 You know, there is a man, the Pope during World War II, Pope Pius XII,
00:20:34.320 one of the great men of the 20th century,
00:20:36.160 who is probably the most smeared and calumniated, slandered man of the 20th century.
00:20:42.700 He has been accused of being silent in the face of Nazism, of being even complicit.
00:20:48.220 Some propagandists have called him Hitler's Pope.
00:20:50.620 And it's just not true.
00:20:52.020 It's ridiculous.
00:20:53.260 He's one of the great heroes.
00:20:54.500 He stood firm.
00:20:55.640 Hitler considered him his personal enemy, as he wrote to Francisco Franco.
00:20:59.800 Pope Pius XII saved many, many people, including many, many, many Jews,
00:21:04.640 so much so that the chief rabbi of Rome, after the war,
00:21:07.940 converted to Catholicism and took the name Eugenio,
00:21:10.800 which is Pope Pius XII's name, before he became pope.
00:21:13.640 So this man has just been lied about in some of the most horrific ways.
00:21:18.040 We have a four-part series to set the record straight,
00:21:20.380 in part because we have a new pope, we have an American pope for the first time,
00:21:25.340 Catholicism seems to be shockingly on the rise, especially among adult conversions.
00:21:30.340 So this is very much of the moment.
00:21:31.960 There's a return to faith, questioning of historical narratives.
00:21:34.820 And so we want to get the facts out there.
00:21:36.920 And just this morning, I saw there was a piece in the Times of Israel,
00:21:40.680 Shmuley Boteik, who is this kind of wacky rabbi.
00:21:45.120 I hate to malign rabbis by associating Shmuley with them.
00:21:49.700 But he came out, and he accused me and The Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro
00:21:53.900 of rehabilitating a Nazi collaborator.
00:21:57.460 I mean, he's just furthering the calumny.
00:21:59.560 It shows you how widespread this false belief is.
00:22:03.000 And so I encourage people to go join Daily Wire Plus
00:22:05.340 because they can get the full story.
00:22:06.880 They get all the facts.
00:22:07.940 Because if you don't know your history,
00:22:10.120 you're not going to know which way your country,
00:22:12.120 your civilization should be going.
00:22:13.300 Well, I think this is great.
00:22:17.980 And it's definitely something where, you know, especially Pope Pius,
00:22:21.360 I know for a lot of traditional Catholics,
00:22:24.340 he's someone that a lot of people will point to
00:22:26.600 because he really, even as a Polish guy, of course,
00:22:30.400 you know, nothing but love for J.P. the two.
00:22:32.920 But Pope Pius XII was really someone who came in
00:22:36.020 on a lot of the hot-button issues.
00:22:37.800 And for people to look at this and say,
00:22:39.560 this is pre-Vatican II,
00:22:41.100 this is pre a lot of these modernist changes
00:22:42.920 that we saw with the church,
00:22:44.160 and he's someone who spoke with incredible clarity
00:22:46.800 on moral issues that we are still wrestling with
00:22:49.640 to this very day.
00:22:51.600 And so I really feel like a lot of the smears
00:22:54.680 and a lot of this campaign went against him
00:22:57.520 because they don't want people looking beyond all that
00:23:01.120 to see who the man actually was and what he stood for.
00:23:04.500 Certainly.
00:23:05.180 And not only did he speak and write with clarity,
00:23:07.280 but he acted with clarity.
00:23:08.740 And I think something confusing about Pius XII
00:23:11.540 when we look at our modern age of tick-tock and clicks
00:23:14.760 is that the man did not just showboat all the time.
00:23:17.660 In fact, in his prudence to defend the innocent,
00:23:20.780 to defend Christians, especially to defend Jews
00:23:22.860 in Rome and throughout Europe,
00:23:25.060 sometimes he had to act in silence.
00:23:26.780 And he suffered a kind of a martyrdom in a certain sense.
00:23:30.300 His reputation was maligned
00:23:32.020 because he was acting behind the scenes, furtively.
00:23:35.020 He was wise.
00:23:36.960 The chief political virtue is prudence.
00:23:39.280 And that certainly saved many, many lives.
00:23:41.480 But he didn't get the credit for it.
00:23:43.380 Well, now the Vatican Secret Archive is open.
00:23:46.120 And so historians are able to look at these documents.
00:23:49.000 The story is clear as day.
00:23:50.440 The propagandists are liars.
00:23:52.120 The calumny against Pius came from enemies of the church,
00:23:55.300 notably from the communists.
00:23:56.660 And we see all sorts of lies about our civilization,
00:23:59.900 about the church today.
00:24:00.840 So we need to be sure that we're very clear about this.
00:24:03.880 And we can look ahead.
00:24:05.360 Because this is not just merely looking back
00:24:06.800 to the 1940s and the 1950s.
00:24:08.460 But this is about looking ahead
00:24:10.100 to where our civilization will go if we are to survive.
00:24:13.540 Wait a minute, Noel.
00:24:17.460 So you're telling me that the textbooks
00:24:20.600 and the newspapers are totally against Pope Pius XII
00:24:24.640 and that the communists of the time were also against him.
00:24:28.360 So then that belies the question,
00:24:30.280 who's in charge of our media right now
00:24:32.040 and who's been writing these textbooks?
00:24:33.340 Yeah, it turns out that the historic enemy of the church,
00:24:38.540 the communists, one of the...
00:24:40.500 Well, there were multiple villains in World War II,
00:24:42.200 but the communists were certainly up there.
00:24:43.560 It turns out, you know, they remain enemies of the church,
00:24:46.120 but not exactly a man-bites-dog story.
00:24:48.620 But unfortunately, propaganda does have a way,
00:24:51.680 really, of working.
00:24:52.640 And so we need to see clarity here
00:24:54.440 because even in the lead-up to World War II,
00:24:56.500 you can see Pope Pius XII, then Eugenio Pacelli,
00:24:59.220 was a diplomat in Germany.
00:25:00.840 So he saw the rise of Hitler.
00:25:02.160 He knew Hitler's number early on.
00:25:05.220 And Pope Pius XI, his predecessor,
00:25:07.760 wrote Mitprinando Sorga
00:25:08.960 to counteract the rise of Nazism.
00:25:11.940 He wrote it in German
00:25:12.820 to spread it among the German people.
00:25:15.500 But, you know, Hitler very likely wanted to kidnap the pope
00:25:18.560 and possibly kill him,
00:25:20.320 wrote that he would...
00:25:21.400 Or rather, said to Goebbels,
00:25:22.680 Goebbels wrote that he would destroy the churches in Germany.
00:25:25.600 So, you know, you have one enemy of the church
00:25:27.560 coming from one side.
00:25:28.680 You have this other enemy, the communists,
00:25:30.100 coming from the other.
00:25:30.880 And you have this one man standing alone.
00:25:32.960 Everyone flees Rome.
00:25:34.340 The king of Italy, Mussolini.
00:25:36.000 And here is Pius XII standing firm
00:25:37.940 and standing for the truth
00:25:39.600 and doing a lot of good
00:25:41.340 and saving a lot of people in the process.
00:25:45.660 Now, we're just about out of time.
00:25:47.160 Tell people again where they can go to get that.
00:25:48.660 Daily Wire Plus?
00:25:50.520 Only place to go, Daily Wire Plus.
00:25:52.300 You all have to come over
00:25:53.300 so that I can beat Walsh and Shapiro
00:25:54.980 on their subscription numbers.
00:25:56.180 We need to make Pius XII the big show.
00:26:01.340 Pius XII.
00:26:02.300 I'm definitely going to be checking that out.
00:26:03.700 Michael Knowles,
00:26:04.660 thanks so much for joining us once again here.
00:26:06.240 Human Events.
00:26:06.980 Right back live from the White House
00:26:08.880 through America's Voice.
00:26:09.560 Jack, where is Jack?
00:26:18.360 Where is Jack?
00:26:20.720 Where is he?
00:26:22.000 Jack, I want to see you.
00:26:25.660 Great job, Jack.
00:26:27.120 Thank you.
00:26:27.840 What a job you do.
00:26:29.300 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:26:30.680 We're always talking about the fake news
00:26:32.260 and the bad,
00:26:32.960 but we have guys,
00:26:34.000 and these are the guys
00:26:35.400 who will be getting publicity.
00:26:37.720 All right.
00:26:38.980 Jack Posobiec,
00:26:40.220 we're coming to you live
00:26:41.680 right here
00:26:42.320 from the steps of the White House,
00:26:44.340 the front lawn,
00:26:45.140 north lawn of the White House.
00:26:46.740 Very excited now to be joined.
00:26:48.860 I would say sitting down with,
00:26:50.060 but we are standing as it is.
00:26:52.220 But that's okay.
00:26:53.040 We can handle it
00:26:53.700 because we're, you know,
00:26:54.580 we're on the right side of this thing.
00:26:56.380 That we're sitting down with Joe Livornia.
00:26:57.780 He is the counselor
00:26:58.560 to Secretary Scott Best.
00:27:00.000 And Joe, thanks for joining us again.
00:27:01.220 Jack, my pleasure.
00:27:01.860 Thanks for having me.
00:27:02.460 Now, I have to say incredible thanks
00:27:04.840 to Secretary Besant
00:27:06.280 as well as the rest
00:27:07.400 of the White House team
00:27:08.300 for allowing me to accompany them
00:27:10.380 on this really historic trip
00:27:12.220 to Anchorage
00:27:13.880 to sit down with the Russians.
00:27:15.780 Then, of course,
00:27:16.200 Secretary Besant
00:27:16.840 playing a key role
00:27:18.120 in the meetings yesterday
00:27:19.700 with the European leaders.
00:27:21.620 What can you tell us
00:27:22.480 about how the Secretary's office
00:27:23.980 is looking at all of this
00:27:25.620 in terms of the economics of peace?
00:27:28.640 Well, as Secretary Besant said,
00:27:30.900 Jack,
00:27:31.200 the President who works tirelessly
00:27:32.800 is the hardest-working person alive.
00:27:35.400 I don't know how he sleeps if he does.
00:27:37.180 It's trade deals,
00:27:38.640 peace deals,
00:27:40.120 tax deals.
00:27:41.260 It's all of the above.
00:27:42.420 In the U.S.,
00:27:43.020 having to be a very strong economy,
00:27:44.600 as Secretary Besant said,
00:27:45.780 national security
00:27:46.680 and economic security
00:27:48.000 are intertwined.
00:27:49.020 The President has made clear
00:27:50.340 he wants an end
00:27:51.020 to this horrible war,
00:27:52.620 this horrible situation.
00:27:53.720 And he's a phenomenal negotiator.
00:27:56.400 And I think the Secretary,
00:27:57.840 like many others,
00:27:58.520 are optimistic
00:27:59.340 that we're making
00:28:00.720 a lot of good progress
00:28:01.580 and fingers crossed.
00:28:02.860 Well, it certainly seems like it
00:28:04.080 and very rapidly, too,
00:28:05.320 because here we are yesterday.
00:28:06.800 It was just 48 hours
00:28:08.460 after that meeting on Friday.
00:28:10.740 And by the way,
00:28:11.200 you mentioned
00:28:11.800 the President's work ethic.
00:28:13.980 We land at Andrews Air Force Base
00:28:15.980 and it's 2 a.m.,
00:28:17.400 I believe, D.C. time,
00:28:19.280 so Eastern Standard.
00:28:20.740 And we're all waiting to get off.
00:28:22.860 We're all suited up.
00:28:23.620 And then we see
00:28:24.000 the Secret Service sit down.
00:28:25.780 And we're looking around and say,
00:28:26.800 why is the Secret Service sitting down?
00:28:28.120 Isn't it, you know, time to go?
00:28:29.620 And I say,
00:28:29.920 if those guys sit down,
00:28:30.760 they probably know what's going on.
00:28:32.440 And then Caroline comes back
00:28:34.260 and says,
00:28:35.080 the President is on the phone
00:28:36.460 with one of the NATO leaders
00:28:37.820 and he doesn't want to have
00:28:38.780 to hang up and call back.
00:28:40.200 So we are going to wait.
00:28:41.640 We ended up waiting there
00:28:42.760 for about a...
00:28:43.480 Even after going all the way
00:28:44.780 to Anchorage and back,
00:28:45.620 he's now, at this point,
00:28:46.600 I think worked about 19 hours straight.
00:28:49.520 He's still on the phone
00:28:50.920 at 2 in the morning
00:28:52.020 and we sat there
00:28:53.060 for about another 45 minutes.
00:28:54.960 Pretty awe-inspiring.
00:28:56.280 And that story I've heard
00:28:57.740 in many different permutations
00:28:59.460 many, many, many times over.
00:29:01.120 So it's a...
00:29:05.600 He's, you know,
00:29:06.760 he didn't give me too much,
00:29:08.300 but he said it was a good meeting.
00:29:09.480 It was a good meeting.
00:29:10.280 So I appreciate that.
00:29:11.300 And at the same time,
00:29:12.300 though, kicking back
00:29:13.440 to more on the domestic front,
00:29:14.740 you and I have been talking
00:29:15.700 about this really blue-collar boom
00:29:17.680 that's been going on.
00:29:19.460 What are you seeing
00:29:20.440 in the numbers today
00:29:21.400 that have changed
00:29:22.180 between the last time
00:29:23.200 we spoke and now?
00:29:24.400 Well, you know,
00:29:25.160 a couple of things
00:29:25.800 that the President ran on
00:29:26.800 are very important.
00:29:27.580 One was the border
00:29:28.320 and the other is getting
00:29:29.360 the cost of living down.
00:29:30.400 Both were in crisis situations.
00:29:32.580 Since President Trump
00:29:33.560 has been in office,
00:29:34.280 the annualized inflation rate
00:29:36.340 is less than 2%,
00:29:37.480 1.9% annualized,
00:29:39.520 which is incredible.
00:29:40.360 The price of eggs down
00:29:41.340 over 20%,
00:29:42.400 gas down over 20%,
00:29:43.880 food prices barely up,
00:29:46.180 rents are declining.
00:29:47.140 These are everyday items,
00:29:49.060 goods and services.
00:29:50.300 You know,
00:29:50.480 what you pay,
00:29:51.220 your grocery bill,
00:29:52.200 how to heat or cool your home
00:29:54.460 to live in a home
00:29:56.400 or a rental,
00:29:57.400 whatever it might be.
00:29:58.440 All those costs
00:29:59.180 have come down dramatically
00:30:00.240 and that has caused,
00:30:02.860 Jack, real wages.
00:30:04.260 You take your wage rate,
00:30:05.200 adjust it for inflation,
00:30:06.540 cause your real wage rate
00:30:07.660 to expand.
00:30:08.660 So in the first seven months
00:30:10.220 of the President's term,
00:30:11.580 we've had the second biggest gain
00:30:13.760 in real wages,
00:30:14.840 blue collar wages in particular,
00:30:16.280 on record,
00:30:17.160 eclipsed,
00:30:17.980 and only by a smidgen,
00:30:19.380 President Trump 1.0.
00:30:20.940 So with this one big,
00:30:22.300 beautiful bill passed
00:30:23.160 that Secretary Bess
00:30:24.040 worked very hard on
00:30:25.220 with fulfilling
00:30:26.580 the President's vision,
00:30:27.640 we're going to get
00:30:28.420 faster productivity,
00:30:29.740 we're going to get
00:30:30.160 faster nominal wages,
00:30:31.720 especially with less
00:30:32.580 illegal workers,
00:30:33.720 so there's no more
00:30:34.480 artificial depressant
00:30:36.140 to the market wage rate.
00:30:37.620 So you have low inflation
00:30:38.700 and you have rising nominal wages,
00:30:41.380 so your numerator,
00:30:42.320 for those,
00:30:42.780 your math,
00:30:43.780 your numerator...
00:30:44.180 We're going back to Mr. Corrado
00:30:45.780 would be making sure
00:30:47.300 I'm following this one.
00:30:48.320 Your numerator is going up
00:30:49.700 at the same time
00:30:50.460 your denominator is going down
00:30:51.800 and all you need to know
00:30:52.540 is that U.S. households
00:30:53.920 are going to do great.
00:30:55.580 Well, you know,
00:30:55.940 and just even on a basic level,
00:30:57.640 I had a family member
00:30:59.600 post the other day
00:31:00.360 who said,
00:31:00.880 couldn't believe,
00:31:01.780 here it is the middle of summer
00:31:02.880 and gas is under $3 a gallon
00:31:05.220 and we're talking
00:31:05.900 in some of the high-priced states.
00:31:08.080 That's something
00:31:08.620 that hasn't been seen
00:31:09.240 in a long time
00:31:09.700 because usually you think
00:31:11.000 that if it's in the middle
00:31:11.620 of summer,
00:31:12.040 gas is going to be way up
00:31:13.200 over $3,
00:31:14.460 $3.50,
00:31:15.280 close, you know,
00:31:15.860 maybe even getting close
00:31:16.960 to $4,
00:31:17.480 under $3.
00:31:18.920 By the way,
00:31:19.800 without having to do
00:31:20.720 any of the releases
00:31:22.500 of the strategic petroleum reserve
00:31:24.300 that Biden was doing
00:31:25.220 and everything
00:31:25.880 that he was trying
00:31:26.820 to have,
00:31:27.100 the injection of capital,
00:31:28.480 et cetera,
00:31:28.860 to really cook the books,
00:31:30.200 I think,
00:31:30.540 on a lot
00:31:30.960 and juice the economy,
00:31:32.100 we haven't seen any of that.
00:31:33.340 This is actually doing
00:31:34.680 the hard work
00:31:35.340 both legislatively
00:31:36.240 and economically.
00:31:37.460 Absolutely.
00:31:38.060 I mean,
00:31:38.240 President Trump,
00:31:38.980 I'm sure,
00:31:39.340 put a lot of pressure
00:31:40.120 on OPEC
00:31:40.600 to increase production.
00:31:42.500 Markets are forward-looking,
00:31:43.620 so oil producers
00:31:44.700 are anticipating
00:31:45.660 much friendlier regulation
00:31:47.960 that doesn't crimp
00:31:48.920 and destroy their businesses.
00:31:50.060 You had all this
00:31:50.620 absurd regulation
00:31:52.120 in the previous administration,
00:31:53.660 so the markets reacted positively.
00:31:55.360 For example,
00:31:55.880 Jack,
00:31:56.160 back in January
00:31:57.240 before President Trump
00:31:58.300 took office,
00:31:59.280 oil prices were above $80 a barrel.
00:32:01.360 They're now in the low 60s.
00:32:02.720 That's incredible.
00:32:03.700 And that's the direct result
00:32:04.740 of President Trump's policies.
00:32:06.840 And the best part,
00:32:07.920 again,
00:32:08.100 is that we just passed
00:32:09.380 this one big,
00:32:09.960 beautiful bill,
00:32:10.380 which had a lot
00:32:11.080 of energy investment
00:32:12.400 and permitting
00:32:12.980 and other incentives in it.
00:32:14.560 So we've yet to reap
00:32:16.000 those benefits.
00:32:16.820 That's still the forward.
00:32:18.200 So kudos to the president.
00:32:19.920 It's really just
00:32:21.200 a wonderful situation.
00:32:22.580 Well,
00:32:22.660 and certainly you mentioned
00:32:23.320 the price of oil.
00:32:23.900 That obviously carries
00:32:25.060 a national security component
00:32:26.980 as well
00:32:27.580 when you talk about Russia,
00:32:28.880 when you talk about Iran.
00:32:30.400 Why are these countries
00:32:31.380 as powerful as they are?
00:32:32.340 Well,
00:32:32.440 it's because they are
00:32:33.380 petroleum exporters
00:32:34.340 and because they are
00:32:35.200 key members of OPEC.
00:32:36.600 But with Russia
00:32:37.300 having the price of oil
00:32:38.680 down $60 a barrel,
00:32:40.020 Iran down to $60 a barrel,
00:32:41.740 they aren't able to fund
00:32:43.200 their external operations
00:32:44.680 as much.
00:32:45.300 Russia,
00:32:45.640 of course,
00:32:46.240 also facing the sanctions.
00:32:47.600 But the possibility,
00:32:48.880 the real possibility
00:32:49.660 of these secondary sanctions,
00:32:51.340 China, India,
00:32:52.520 and others
00:32:53.020 that are still purchasing
00:32:54.040 that petroleum.
00:32:55.080 This has been a huge,
00:32:56.060 I really think,
00:32:56.920 a huge backdrop
00:32:57.740 to a lot of the security
00:32:58.860 discussions that have gone on.
00:33:00.100 Absolutely.
00:33:00.660 And it just shows you
00:33:01.300 how forward-thinking
00:33:02.520 President Trump is.
00:33:03.640 Being a businessman,
00:33:04.460 you notice how
00:33:04.800 the real world works.
00:33:06.260 It reinforces
00:33:07.000 what Secretary Besant said
00:33:08.240 about national security
00:33:09.440 and economic security.
00:33:10.840 Lower oil prices,
00:33:11.760 it's great for U.S. business
00:33:12.800 and also doesn't fund
00:33:14.000 all the terrorism
00:33:14.680 and all those other
00:33:15.280 horrible activities
00:33:16.180 that those high oil prices
00:33:18.480 we had over the previous
00:33:19.500 four years
00:33:20.000 actually winds up accomplishing.
00:33:21.840 It's truly amazing
00:33:22.760 because of all the things
00:33:24.040 that you saw
00:33:24.720 that Biden tried to pull out
00:33:26.100 in terms of,
00:33:26.980 we're going to send
00:33:27.520 more backing for armaments
00:33:30.720 and we're going to send
00:33:31.320 these billions
00:33:31.920 and those billions.
00:33:32.540 You never once saw Biden
00:33:34.180 look at it
00:33:34.900 from an economic perspective
00:33:36.140 and say,
00:33:36.660 well,
00:33:36.780 if we lower these prices,
00:33:38.240 it's not only going to be
00:33:39.340 better for the American people,
00:33:40.580 it's also going to have
00:33:42.080 this component as well.
00:33:43.360 And I have to imagine
00:33:44.020 that's something
00:33:44.660 that the Secretary,
00:33:45.260 I know for a fact,
00:33:46.180 that's something
00:33:46.720 the Secretary has told me
00:33:47.820 is indelibly thinking about
00:33:50.580 on a regular basis
00:33:51.620 because that's been
00:33:52.980 one of the things,
00:33:53.700 I remember the last time
00:33:54.620 we had the Secretary
00:33:55.160 on the program here,
00:33:56.360 he specifically said
00:33:57.520 that national security
00:33:59.500 takes up almost 50%
00:34:00.980 of his portfolio.
00:34:01.940 That's right.
00:34:02.340 Yeah, it's amazing.
00:34:03.960 Think about it.
00:34:04.500 The old expression,
00:34:05.180 common sense isn't that common.
00:34:06.800 Yes.
00:34:07.140 We saw that
00:34:07.780 over the previous four years,
00:34:08.700 you're seeing the President
00:34:09.420 take a very pro-U.S.,
00:34:11.520 pro-growth set of policies
00:34:13.820 that he was elected on
00:34:15.700 in a landslide
00:34:16.580 to basically improve
00:34:18.060 the livelihood
00:34:18.820 and safety of all Americans.
00:34:20.400 And we're seeing that.
00:34:21.880 And Secretary Besson
00:34:22.700 has been excellent
00:34:23.360 in putting that agenda forward
00:34:25.760 and getting it implemented.
00:34:27.540 And thank God
00:34:29.180 we're in a position
00:34:29.840 we're in right now.
00:34:31.300 Well, and that's something
00:34:31.920 that I actually had
00:34:32.600 the opportunity to ask
00:34:33.640 the press secretary
00:34:34.620 just now, moments ago,
00:34:36.260 right before we started
00:34:36.980 the show,
00:34:37.600 regarding this funding.
00:34:39.840 So there's a lot
00:34:41.380 of weapons components,
00:34:43.660 a lot of things
00:34:44.260 that we're asking
00:34:44.720 about how the peace deal
00:34:46.780 will go forward.
00:34:47.880 But one of the things
00:34:48.440 I asked was,
00:34:49.460 and I think we've heard
00:34:50.220 a little bit about this,
00:34:51.560 but this idea that
00:34:52.320 will the U.S. taxpayer
00:34:53.800 be still held on the hook
00:34:56.000 for so many of these outlays
00:34:57.940 to the endless wars?
00:34:59.260 And I think that's something
00:35:00.400 that President Trump
00:35:01.160 has come out and said,
00:35:02.120 absolutely not.
00:35:03.420 Caroline Levitt
00:35:03.920 said the exact same thing.
00:35:05.100 He's going to look
00:35:05.800 for any possible way
00:35:07.340 to get this done.
00:35:08.240 And as President Trump
00:35:09.220 likes to do back
00:35:09.880 when he was a businessman
00:35:10.700 to get it done
00:35:11.620 without having to pay for it.
00:35:12.820 Yeah, but, and Jack,
00:35:13.740 he's been,
00:35:14.340 he's had these views
00:35:15.400 for years and years.
00:35:17.020 These aren't just
00:35:17.800 fly-by-night views.
00:35:18.660 These are beliefs
00:35:20.140 that are very dear to him.
00:35:21.620 He cares about
00:35:22.460 the sanctity of human life.
00:35:23.700 What's happening
00:35:24.200 is horrible.
00:35:25.260 He wants a solution.
00:35:26.480 And he's incredibly thoughtful.
00:35:28.000 And as you alluded to earlier,
00:35:29.840 to say he's a tireless worker
00:35:31.440 is an understatement.
00:35:33.120 They think that's exactly right.
00:35:34.780 Moving back to,
00:35:35.840 by the way,
00:35:36.180 and it just drives me hilarious
00:35:39.620 thinking about this
00:35:40.440 because the price of oil is down.
00:35:42.460 We're seeing jobs numbers
00:35:43.440 in a great spot.
00:35:44.440 Inflation down.
00:35:45.160 Nobody talks about
00:35:45.980 the price of eggs anymore,
00:35:47.420 although that was a refrain
00:35:48.540 that was brought up here
00:35:49.660 at the press speaking room
00:35:50.620 over and over and over
00:35:52.180 in the early days
00:35:53.020 of the administration.
00:35:55.120 The other component
00:35:56.260 that we're seeing
00:35:57.320 to all of this
00:35:58.240 is the idea
00:35:59.260 that general prices
00:36:01.380 are at least down
00:36:02.200 or stabilized
00:36:03.300 to the point
00:36:04.300 where people are now
00:36:05.140 being able to afford
00:36:06.200 living better.
00:36:07.520 Are we also seeing that
00:36:08.560 from, I would say,
00:36:09.320 business leaders?
00:36:10.100 You and I talked about
00:36:10.720 the CapEx numbers
00:36:11.660 the last time we were on.
00:36:12.960 Are you seeing that trend continue?
00:36:14.300 Yes.
00:36:14.320 In particular,
00:36:15.220 small business,
00:36:16.040 you're seeing
00:36:16.560 a now sharp recovery
00:36:17.960 in small business sentiment.
00:36:19.380 And that's important, Jack,
00:36:20.440 because small businesses
00:36:21.840 account for 40%
00:36:23.520 of all jobs.
00:36:24.760 A lot of it's
00:36:25.320 mom-and-pop operations.
00:36:26.860 And the large businesses
00:36:28.100 that we have
00:36:28.720 that we're very proud of
00:36:29.540 ultimately started
00:36:30.240 small businesses.
00:36:30.940 So, yes,
00:36:31.820 you're seeing sentiment
00:36:32.580 improve dramatically
00:36:33.440 on the business side.
00:36:34.380 In fact,
00:36:35.000 perhaps the equity market
00:36:35.980 best reflects that.
00:36:37.180 You're seeing booming
00:36:37.880 stock markets
00:36:38.580 because people
00:36:39.180 are incredibly confident
00:36:40.340 in President Trump's policies
00:36:42.860 and how he's stewarding
00:36:44.540 the economy.
00:36:45.600 And I would think
00:36:47.000 that that sentiment
00:36:47.960 is going to lead
00:36:48.900 to much faster GDP growth,
00:36:50.940 faster employment.
00:36:52.580 And as you alluded to,
00:36:54.060 the inflation rate is
00:36:55.240 Joe, quick break.
00:36:56.940 We're going to take
00:36:57.480 a break here,
00:36:58.120 but I want to get back
00:36:58.920 on that specifically
00:36:59.760 regarding small business.
00:37:01.140 Right back,
00:37:01.580 Jack Posovic,
00:37:02.300 Human Events Daily,
00:37:03.240 Real America's Voice,
00:37:04.000 live at the White House.
00:37:10.480 He's a great guy.
00:37:11.860 He's written a fantastic book.
00:37:13.520 Everybody's talking about it.
00:37:14.720 Go get it.
00:37:15.840 And he's been my friend
00:37:16.800 right from the beginning
00:37:17.740 of this whole beautiful event.
00:37:19.880 And we're going to turn it around
00:37:21.180 and make our country
00:37:22.100 great to get to him.
00:37:23.100 Amen.
00:37:23.360 Obviously, the tariff itself
00:37:26.360 is paid at the port.
00:37:28.140 But what if the producer
00:37:30.020 in the other country
00:37:31.660 has lowered their price
00:37:33.040 to 10, 15, 20 percent
00:37:35.380 so that there is no price change
00:37:37.380 with the tariff?
00:37:38.900 And obviously,
00:37:40.480 our largest trade deficit
00:37:41.740 is with China.
00:37:43.100 And China does not have
00:37:45.180 the same profit objective
00:37:46.460 that other Western democracies do.
00:37:49.060 So that is an employment agency.
00:37:51.900 And my view has been
00:37:53.060 that they would continue
00:37:54.900 to eat the tariffs.
00:37:56.440 They are doing that.
00:37:58.320 So I think what we've seen
00:38:00.340 is likely to continue happening.
00:38:02.580 I also think there are probably
00:38:03.940 a lot of corporate margins
00:38:05.300 that got very fat during COVID.
00:38:07.560 And now we're seeing a return
00:38:09.600 to a normal pre-COVID margin.
00:38:12.900 All right, Joe.
00:38:13.940 So there is Secretary Besant.
00:38:16.300 He's discussing the tariffs.
00:38:17.880 And really the fact
00:38:19.060 that the results of the tariffs
00:38:21.460 have not been
00:38:22.100 what was so loudly warned about.
00:38:25.900 And the word panicking
00:38:26.980 has been used a number of times
00:38:28.080 by the White House.
00:38:29.820 The panic has not happened.
00:38:31.580 In fact,
00:38:32.320 what Secretary Besant says there
00:38:33.620 is clear,
00:38:34.520 this is being eaten by China.
00:38:35.940 It's being eaten by the producer.
00:38:37.720 They are the ones conducting the export.
00:38:40.440 And whereas the United States,
00:38:42.180 our stock market has been booming.
00:38:44.840 The S&P just came out,
00:38:46.480 reaffirmed our credit rating
00:38:48.740 and specifically cited the tariffs
00:38:51.580 in doing so.
00:38:53.360 What do we account for all this?
00:38:55.020 President Trump highlighted, Jack,
00:38:56.640 that it wasn't going to be a factor.
00:38:58.200 And Secretary Besant said it as well.
00:38:59.840 So they were correct
00:39:00.640 and very anticipatory.
00:39:02.500 We are generating record amounts
00:39:04.080 of tariff revenue.
00:39:05.060 The July numbers put us on track
00:39:07.320 for about $300 billion
00:39:09.020 for the calendar year,
00:39:09.980 maybe more.
00:39:10.600 The CBO,
00:39:12.120 Congressional Budget Office,
00:39:13.380 did not score that
00:39:14.220 because it's technically
00:39:15.260 not part of current law.
00:39:17.860 But they said it could raise
00:39:19.200 almost $3 trillion.
00:39:20.760 If the economy grows
00:39:22.340 at 3%
00:39:23.380 in line with what happened
00:39:24.960 during President Trump's first term,
00:39:26.740 that's an extra $4 trillion
00:39:28.320 in revenue.
00:39:29.500 So if you take
00:39:30.100 a strong growth backdrop,
00:39:31.380 that's the hallmark
00:39:32.600 of President Trump's past,
00:39:35.000 and you take the tariffs,
00:39:36.920 the budget outlook
00:39:37.820 can look excellent,
00:39:39.080 very, very positive.
00:39:40.620 The rating agencies,
00:39:41.720 one of them today
00:39:42.440 at least sort of highlighted that,
00:39:43.660 but they're generally pessimistic.
00:39:44.940 But it's good to see them
00:39:46.000 kind of coming
00:39:46.520 more back into reality.
00:39:48.280 And you're correct.
00:39:49.420 The tariffs have not had an effect
00:39:51.080 on measured inflation.
00:39:52.500 As I said earlier,
00:39:53.600 the inflation rate
00:39:54.440 has been 2%
00:39:55.980 since President Trump took office.
00:39:57.820 Things like automobiles,
00:39:58.820 which are very sensitive to tariffs,
00:40:01.280 those are actually down
00:40:02.720 over 2%
00:40:03.620 since the tariff collection
00:40:05.080 started to pick up in earnest
00:40:06.260 back in April.
00:40:07.300 So President Trump
00:40:08.080 was exactly correct.
00:40:09.960 The exporter,
00:40:11.260 these countries,
00:40:12.020 are absorbing the bulk
00:40:13.060 of these tariffs.
00:40:15.340 And President Trump
00:40:16.220 was proven right again.
00:40:17.660 And so while this is going on,
00:40:19.740 you just mentioned,
00:40:20.860 and let me put this
00:40:22.060 all together here,
00:40:22.860 because you just mentioned
00:40:23.960 that small business,
00:40:26.140 their attitude
00:40:27.260 is actually becoming
00:40:28.420 far more positive
00:40:29.360 when we were told originally
00:40:30.800 that the tariffs
00:40:31.400 are going to destroy
00:40:32.060 small businesses.
00:40:32.960 No, not at all.
00:40:33.700 I mean,
00:40:33.860 you have the continuation
00:40:34.720 of the 2017 Trump tax cuts.
00:40:37.600 You have the no tax on tips
00:40:39.040 and over time
00:40:39.760 that will increase
00:40:40.540 labor supply,
00:40:42.120 reduce tax on seniors.
00:40:43.360 That may help lift
00:40:44.180 their participation rates.
00:40:45.720 It's all about producing
00:40:46.900 more of the goods
00:40:47.820 and services
00:40:48.420 that the economy wants
00:40:50.140 because President Trump
00:40:51.160 as a businessman
00:40:51.880 knows how the real world works.
00:40:54.500 And if you help
00:40:55.240 small businesses,
00:40:55.900 which are the backbone
00:40:56.780 of hiring,
00:40:57.860 they will thrive.
00:40:59.220 The tariffs are important
00:41:00.380 in incentivizing
00:41:01.440 foreign companies
00:41:02.340 and countries
00:41:02.960 to allocate capital
00:41:04.040 to the U.S.
00:41:04.820 You've seen that
00:41:05.680 in the trillions of dollars
00:41:06.700 of money coming back in.
00:41:08.300 They've got low tax rates.
00:41:09.980 They've got pro-growth,
00:41:11.820 proper business
00:41:12.860 regulatory policies.
00:41:14.080 In other words,
00:41:14.500 the administration
00:41:14.960 is looking to help business,
00:41:16.600 not hurt business
00:41:17.660 because if you hurt business,
00:41:18.580 you hurt the people
00:41:19.180 that work there.
00:41:20.080 And you've got low
00:41:20.980 and abundant,
00:41:21.920 low and abundant,
00:41:23.080 or I should say,
00:41:23.820 cheap and abundant
00:41:24.360 energy prices,
00:41:25.280 which is important
00:41:26.020 in terms of producing things.
00:41:27.320 So it all works
00:41:28.360 together cohesively.
00:41:29.320 And that's why, Jack,
00:41:31.000 if you look at the data
00:41:31.940 under President Trump's
00:41:33.020 first term,
00:41:33.620 small business sentiment,
00:41:35.320 their optimism
00:41:36.040 had never been higher
00:41:37.560 under any president,
00:41:39.400 Democrat or Republican,
00:41:40.540 than it was
00:41:40.960 under President Trump's
00:41:42.080 first term.
00:41:43.000 That's going back 40 years.
00:41:44.820 And there's no question
00:41:45.860 with President Trump's policies,
00:41:47.720 again,
00:41:48.200 you're going to see
00:41:48.660 a similar euphoria.
00:41:50.180 Well, and it just flies
00:41:51.800 in the face of what
00:41:52.600 we were told
00:41:53.120 was the conventional wisdom.
00:41:54.780 I remember people
00:41:55.580 blowing up regarding tariffs,
00:41:57.220 saying that there's
00:41:57.800 no possible way
00:41:58.700 this is going to work.
00:41:59.820 It can't be done.
00:42:00.820 And it seems, though,
00:42:02.100 that the difference here
00:42:03.420 is that,
00:42:04.340 and by the way,
00:42:05.180 I'm just going to say it,
00:42:06.160 this is one of the reasons
00:42:07.080 that you're seeing
00:42:07.620 in places like New York
00:42:08.720 the rise of politicians
00:42:10.360 like Azorah Mamdami,
00:42:12.100 because he's speaking
00:42:13.300 to people that have been
00:42:14.180 caught in so many
00:42:15.200 economic tailwinds,
00:42:16.720 especially Denzi
00:42:17.600 and younger millennials,
00:42:18.900 that they want to
00:42:20.400 tear the entire system down,
00:42:22.540 whereas what President Trump
00:42:23.540 is offering
00:42:24.040 is a way
00:42:24.680 to raise the floor
00:42:26.680 so that he brings
00:42:27.580 everybody up
00:42:28.860 rather than
00:42:30.020 having to tear
00:42:30.680 anyone down
00:42:31.300 in the process.
00:42:32.360 That's exactly right.
00:42:33.280 I think New York
00:42:33.940 is probably a unique case,
00:42:35.260 but if you look
00:42:35.680 at the president
00:42:36.260 and how he performed
00:42:37.220 last November,
00:42:38.440 he did extraordinarily well
00:42:39.980 among working-class voters,
00:42:41.940 African-Americans,
00:42:43.760 Hispanics.
00:42:44.680 His numbers went up
00:42:45.600 significantly
00:42:46.200 by historic amounts,
00:42:48.100 where he didn't pull
00:42:49.440 well at the elites
00:42:50.260 and the globalists
00:42:51.500 who have basically
00:42:52.020 been wrong on almost everything,
00:42:53.360 if not everything.
00:42:54.400 Well, that's exactly right,
00:42:55.300 because who does this hurt?
00:42:56.460 This hurts anyone
00:42:57.300 if you're in that business,
00:42:59.040 if you're in the business
00:43:00.000 of selling out the country,
00:43:01.200 if you're in the business
00:43:01.940 of importing these products,
00:43:03.020 you're in the business
00:43:03.760 of cutting down
00:43:05.300 outsourcing American jobs,
00:43:07.740 shutting down American factories,
00:43:09.520 all the rest of it,
00:43:10.400 yes,
00:43:10.720 then that would potentially
00:43:11.600 hurt you a little bit,
00:43:12.680 but it turns out
00:43:13.320 that that is a tiny sliver
00:43:15.040 of people,
00:43:15.640 and the vast majority
00:43:16.600 of people
00:43:17.120 do not fall in that bucket.
00:43:18.660 Jack,
00:43:18.920 the American people
00:43:19.520 are smart.
00:43:20.220 Thank God
00:43:20.960 there's more alternatives
00:43:22.140 than the mainstream media
00:43:23.260 that existed
00:43:23.920 a handful of years ago,
00:43:26.380 and they know,
00:43:27.400 and to the extent
00:43:28.240 that the experts,
00:43:29.500 the so-called experts
00:43:30.200 are wrong again,
00:43:31.380 they're going to lose
00:43:31.780 more and more credibility.
00:43:32.960 There's other outlets
00:43:33.760 such as your platform
00:43:35.480 that people get
00:43:36.040 great information from,
00:43:37.460 and eventually
00:43:38.540 they'll become
00:43:38.900 more and more irrelevant,
00:43:40.260 meaning the so-called experts.
00:43:42.340 Well, I have to say again,
00:43:43.720 just very grateful
00:43:44.380 to the administration
00:43:45.100 for the access
00:43:45.940 they've allowed
00:43:46.720 our network,
00:43:48.000 Real America's Voice,
00:43:48.760 and even myself personally
00:43:49.940 being able to travel
00:43:51.400 alongside the delegation
00:43:52.720 on Air Force One
00:43:53.900 on Friday,
00:43:55.060 even being brought
00:43:55.840 into the White House
00:43:56.560 yesterday
00:43:56.980 for that multilateral meeting,
00:43:58.520 and then today
00:43:59.180 to be in the new media seat.
00:44:00.860 Something that,
00:44:01.660 and you guys
00:44:02.860 over at Treasury,
00:44:03.560 I mean,
00:44:03.700 you've had us on
00:44:04.200 more than anyone,
00:44:05.060 and I have to say
00:44:05.920 it's really something
00:44:07.580 that the administration
00:44:08.560 will never,
00:44:09.540 ever get credit for,
00:44:10.660 just being so transparent,
00:44:12.180 and to anyone out there,
00:44:13.040 I'll even just say,
00:44:14.000 if you've got a blog,
00:44:15.040 if you've got a YouTube channel,
00:44:16.280 if you've got a big social media account,
00:44:18.060 just go ahead
00:44:18.660 and reach out
00:44:19.120 to the press office
00:44:19.780 and see if you can come in
00:44:20.920 on a day pass.
00:44:21.780 I guarantee you,
00:44:23.120 you'll probably get one.
00:44:24.260 Jack,
00:44:24.440 President Trump
00:44:24.880 has three words for it.
00:44:26.260 The golden era.
00:44:28.260 The golden era.
00:44:29.480 It really is
00:44:30.420 as simple as that.
00:44:31.160 Joe,
00:44:31.440 thank you so much
00:44:32.080 for joining us here today,
00:44:33.200 Human Events Daily,
00:44:35.240 here at the White House.
00:44:36.840 Folks,
00:44:37.100 we are so excited
00:44:37.920 to have been here today.
00:44:39.280 We're so excited
00:44:39.980 to have been here
00:44:41.220 on the spot.
00:44:42.620 I'll take it from here.
00:44:44.280 And folks,
00:44:46.020 just wrapping up
00:44:46.900 the last couple of days
00:44:48.080 that we've seen
00:44:48.940 the Anchorage,
00:44:50.460 the NHO's got to run there,
00:44:51.960 but the Anchorage Accords.
00:44:53.780 People asking so many questions
00:44:55.520 about where that's going to go
00:44:57.340 for the American people.
00:44:58.960 People asking
00:44:59.620 where it will go
00:45:00.260 for the Ukrainian people.
00:45:01.440 Will there be U.S. boots
00:45:02.780 on the ground?
00:45:04.060 This absolutely being
00:45:05.760 a key question.
00:45:07.020 But I also wanted to tie it
00:45:08.240 to the economics,
00:45:09.400 both when I was in the White House
00:45:10.900 during the press briefing
00:45:12.200 earlier today,
00:45:13.000 as well as talking
00:45:13.940 with Joe LaVornia,
00:45:15.920 who is, of course,
00:45:16.620 the counselor
00:45:17.080 to Secretary Besant,
00:45:18.520 the Secretary of the Treasury,
00:45:19.620 because there's a money angle
00:45:20.940 affecting all of this.
00:45:23.220 How much
00:45:23.820 of our hard-earned
00:45:25.560 taxpayer dollars
00:45:26.840 are going to be funding
00:45:28.020 anything
00:45:28.760 that comes forward
00:45:30.100 after this?
00:45:31.120 People have seen
00:45:31.760 one of the key reasons
00:45:32.800 that President Trump
00:45:33.520 was able to win the election
00:45:34.460 is because people
00:45:35.380 would turn on the news
00:45:36.540 or fire up social media
00:45:37.880 every morning.
00:45:38.740 They scroll their phone
00:45:39.800 and see another $10 billion
00:45:41.900 to Ukraine,
00:45:42.780 another $20 billion
00:45:43.700 to some foreign country
00:45:44.820 in the Middle East.
00:45:45.880 Billions and billions
00:45:46.900 of dollars
00:45:47.520 that was not going
00:45:48.740 directly to the United States,
00:45:51.660 directly to the American taxpayer.
00:45:53.540 And, of course,
00:45:54.120 we understand how this works.
00:45:55.940 We do not have
00:45:57.080 an unlimited supply of money,
00:45:58.980 regardless of what
00:45:59.640 the Federal Reserve thinks.
00:46:01.300 So there are only
00:46:02.020 a few ways to get it.
00:46:03.020 You can print it,
00:46:04.100 you can tax it,
00:46:04.920 or you can borrow it.
00:46:07.120 And the idea is,
00:46:08.100 of course,
00:46:09.140 you're not going to be able
00:46:09.660 to get rid of the Federal Government.
00:46:10.940 All right,
00:46:11.160 so my Libertarian brethren
00:46:12.280 out there,
00:46:13.020 sorry,
00:46:13.400 it's probably not going to happen.
00:46:14.980 But the best way
00:46:16.120 to deal with it,
00:46:17.240 the very best way
00:46:18.100 to deal with it,
00:46:18.860 is, of course,
00:46:19.680 to do so
00:46:20.520 in a proper governance method.
00:46:25.160 Good governance.
00:46:26.380 Good governance,
00:46:27.320 that means
00:46:27.740 governing for the people.
00:46:29.640 Are the people benefiting
00:46:31.040 from this
00:46:31.560 the widest array of people?
00:46:33.080 Because, look,
00:46:33.820 and I was on Worm this morning
00:46:34.760 talking about Zora Mandami.
00:46:36.380 You're either going to get MAGA
00:46:37.500 or you're going to get Mandami.
00:46:40.200 Folks,
00:46:40.640 this is Jack Posobiec
00:46:41.720 signing off
00:46:42.460 here at the White House.
00:46:43.580 Thanks again
00:46:43.940 to the Real America's Voice team
00:46:45.580 for supporting
00:46:46.060 everything that we've done
00:46:47.140 over the past few days.
00:46:48.300 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:46:48.780 as always,
00:46:49.260 you have my permission
00:46:49.860 to lay ashore.