The election is over and Donald Trump has won in a historic landslide. Now we are throwing the Conservative Conference to celebrate victory but also to plan the work ahead for the road to come. A top Russian general has been assassinated, a Canadian teacher and student were killed in a classroom, and evidence suggests a 15-year-old girl may have been the shooter.
00:01:51.000A top Russian general has been assassinated.
00:01:53.120This was an audacious assassination in the Russian capital of Moscow this morning.
00:01:57.060Ukraine security services releasing this video, apparently showing the moment that
00:02:00.960Lieutenant General Igor Krylov, the man in charge of Russia's chemical, biological, and nuclear
00:02:05.400protection services, was killed by a bomb hidden in a scooter in front of his apartment.
00:02:09.760Sources telling ABC News that Ukraine security services, the SBU, was behind the attack.
00:02:14.320Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is facing the biggest political crisis of his career.
00:02:19.100There's talk that he could even step down within hours or days after his finance minister
00:02:26.660resigned from cabinet over disagreements about the budget.
00:02:30.000A heartbroken community searching for answers after a teacher and student were killed in a
00:02:34.900shooting at Abundant Life Christian School.
00:02:37.220The shooting happened inside a classroom in a study hall of students from mixed grades.
00:02:43.620Overnight, police identifying the shooter as 15-year-old Natalie Rupnow, who went by Samantha.
00:02:49.040She was a student at the school, and evidence suggests she died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
00:02:55.640GOP voted to impeach or convict Trump. You go back to January, February 2021, it was 17 Republicans.
00:03:02.280They're adios amigos, goodbye, see you later for the most part. Now, just five of them, just five of them reign in Congress.
00:03:08.920There are very few folks who dislike Donald Trump on the Republican side who are still in the United States Congress.
00:03:16.520Think about the shooter. Ivy Lee grew up in an affluent household.
00:03:23.720His manifesto clearly is showing some signs of hating.
00:03:29.000You know, our children are being radicalized to hate the America, to hate the country that put them where they are.
00:03:36.300The committee that's been investigating January 6th just released its final report for this year.
00:03:40.960It accuses Liz Cheney of tampering with the witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, trying to influence her testimony.
00:03:48.160It formally recommends that the Federal Bureau of Investigation criminally investigate Liz Cheney when President Trump takes over on January 20th.
00:03:57.480Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here in Washington, D.C.
00:04:02.400Today is December 17th, 22.04. Anno, Domini.
00:04:06.100Liz Cheney! Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:04:11.040And not just Liz Cheney, but Alyssa Farah.
00:04:15.940Oh, yes, that's right. Alyssa Farah from The View. Really? Yes, really.
00:04:21.380And who else do we have? Well, well, well, none other than my favorite all-time low-level conspirator
00:04:31.180in the Jan 6th operation, Cassidy Hutchinson, or as we lovingly call her here on Human Events Daily, The Hutch.
00:04:40.440Oh, yes, The Hutch. Oh, you know, there was always something.
00:04:44.980You know, I just got to say, there was always something about The Hutch where I said, you know, it's going to be her.
00:04:50.980She's going to be the weak link, and she obviously was the weak link.
00:04:55.520And that's why we here on the program devoted so much time and energy to collecting her text messages
00:05:03.020and her text messages with Alyssa Farah, and then, eventually, her text messages with Liz Cheney.
00:05:11.660Oh, no! You should have set up auto-delete, Hutch!
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00:09:34.040Folks, the Liz Cheney situation, it really brings a lot of this into relief.
00:09:39.800Look, I've been talking about the need for reciprocity, the need for justice, the need to balance the scales, the need to say,
00:09:48.640look, we have to return to a one-tier system of justice.
00:09:53.280And if you don't do that, if you don't hold people to the same standard, then you will have an issue of elites and everybody else, elites and subjects,
00:10:02.740rather than a group of people who are all subject to the same set of law.
00:10:08.700That's why reciprocity is so important.
00:10:10.860We called it in the book, The Iron Law of Exact Reciprocity.
00:10:14.560Someone who understands a lot about reciprocity and politics is Matt Boyle from Breitbart News.
00:10:26.620The latest here, I mean, Liz Cheney, Alyssa Farah, Cassidy Hutchinson, the Jan 6 Committee.
00:10:34.560Look, we knew that when they were deleting those communications that they probably did so for some reason.
00:10:39.520President Trump, of course, has said again and again that they conducted that committee illegally.
00:10:46.180And now we have specific, very specific and detailed evidence of wrongdoing by none other than the vice chair of the committee herself, Liz Cheney.
00:10:57.580Yeah, well, look, this is a gang that can't shoot straight.
00:11:00.040And the fact of the matter is that how often have we heard from all of these different people that, oh, no one's above the law.
00:11:07.300Everybody needs to be held accountable.
00:11:08.580Well, if there was a crime committed here, and I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know if there was or not, and if there was some kind of illegal activity, then there needs to be, it needs to be investigated.
00:11:20.500They need to be held accountable, right?
00:11:22.080Like, whether it be Cassidy Hutchinson or Alyssa Farah or Liz Cheney, right?
00:11:27.820And hopefully the incoming administration actually takes steps to do this.
00:11:33.000No wonder why Joe Biden is apparently reportedly considering pardoning Liz Cheney preemptively ahead of Donald Trump's administration taking over.
00:11:43.600But one would think that, you know, the FBI may be looking at this when that incoming director, Cash Patel, is confirmed.
00:11:51.740And all indications are that he will be confirmed because he is more qualified than any recent previous FBI director, you know, including Christopher Wray, for the position.
00:12:02.500So hopefully he will be confirmed by the U.S. Senate and we'll start taking steps to address this.
00:12:07.720But again, the two-tier system of justice is at play here, right?
00:12:11.760Like, again, these same people, they've had January 6th prisoners locked up in prisons in Washington, D.C. and whatnot for the last several years.
00:12:22.560And yet if they committed wide-scale criminality here, which, you know, may or may not be the case, depending on what the lawyers and the prosecutors and whatnot say about this and, you know, what courts, you know, adjudicate it, et cetera, the process needs to play out.
00:12:37.680But the fact is, is that if they're able to get away with wide-scale criminality, then, you know, and other people are not, that that's just not fair.
00:12:48.280And Matt, you know, someone that you and I both know, Stephen K. Bannon, did four months in Danbury Federal Prison simply for refusing to participate in this committee's actions.
00:13:03.160And as it turns out, that if the committee was conducting itself in an illegal fashion, then that, legally speaking, I mean, obviously he can't get those four months back.
00:13:13.020But legally speaking, it does show why Bannon would perhaps not want to get involved with an illegal committee in the first place, because who knows if he would have been the victim of another one of these ensnarement traps or whether people would have leaned on him to commit perjury or any of these other things, trying to contact him without a lawyer involved, et cetera, et cetera.
00:13:35.640And so the fact of the matter is, when Steve Bannon was put behind bars by the Jan 6 Committee, okay, by this very same committee that was run by Liz Cheney.
00:13:45.300Yeah, I know that she wasn't the overall chair, but come on, it was run by, you know, Benny Thompson.
00:13:58.000Right, well, not only that, but also, you know, this committee's actions and, you know, subpoenas, et cetera, were of questionable legality from the get-go, right?
00:14:09.200Like, and so, and I think history will reflect kindly on Steve and will reflect kindly on Peter Navarro, who both stood up to this and both were put in prison for several months.
00:14:19.940But, you know, again, the bigger point here is, you know, if you look back and go all the way back to the Obama administration, the then Attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder, was held in criminal contempt of Congress by a legitimate congressional committee called the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
00:14:38.820That's what it was called in some time.
00:14:40.180They've since changed the name of it, but it's the Oversight Committee and the House of Representatives because he was withholding documents from the Operation Fast and Furious scandal.
00:14:47.640Later, Barack Obama, the then president of the United States, asserted executive privilege over those documents.
00:14:53.320However, the criminal contempt resolution was adopted out of Congress, passed, and sent to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, which then declined to prosecute Eric Holder.
00:15:04.200Eric Holder has never faced consequences for his criminality, right?
00:15:09.480Like, so the fact of the matter is, is that, you know, and that's arguably much worse than whatever Steve or Peter did, in that in Steve and Peter's cases, the committee was of questionable legality, and it's still of questionable legality.
00:15:24.800But, again, the bigger picture here is that what you have is you have a bunch of elites running around Washington, D.C. that act like they're above the law.
00:15:33.260You know, people shouldn't be, you know, going and getting bombed at the Bombay Club and acting like, you know, they're above everybody else, right?
00:15:42.020Like, the fact here is, is that, you know, the regular people should be held to the same standards as these elitist types, right?
00:15:49.820Like, and the election results on November the 5th are proof that the American public, I think, you know, in mass numbers, are rejecting these global elites holding themselves to higher in different standards than everybody else.
00:16:05.160And it's time that we get back to holding everybody to the same standards and that the scales of lady justice are balanced so that the regular people don't get screwed, you know, in an unfair way.
00:16:18.040If somebody violates the law, face the consequences.
00:16:22.380Look, and this was a huge part of the election, as you say, that people were watching this play out before their TV screens and in the little pieces of glass in their pockets, and they were getting sick of it.
00:16:34.420They were saying, why is the government, and not just about Steve Bannon, by the way, but, of course, him going to prison as well as Peter Navarro going to prison, both played a huge role in this.
00:16:43.420It was the lawfare against the man himself, Donald Trump, when, you know, you would have these ridiculous cases that Alvin Bragg was bringing up, Letitia James, you know, Mar-a-Lago.
00:16:53.460By the way, a case, Juan Mershon's case, where just earlier today the judge came down and said that he isn't even going to dismiss the charges, even though it's essentially been held that the case can't continue because he's being elected president.
00:17:10.500You have this absolute nonsense that's going on, which was really all predicated by Jack Smith, and then, of course, the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
00:17:20.600The American people looked at all of this, and they said, you know what?
00:17:25.700We're sick of holding our noses, and we want to move away from it.
00:17:29.940And now that it turns out that, as we all suspected, that they were cutting corners, and they were lying to try to get someone like Cassidy Hutchinson to get up there and change her testimony from what she said in closed doors to what she said on camera because they wanted something that they could lead with on the 6 o'clock news.
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00:21:16.360So just as qualified, by the way, I think Pam's going to be fantastic as the attorney general.
00:21:21.480But the point is, is that the deep state, the establishment media, the permanent political class in Washington, D.C., those same globalists that we're talking about there on the last segment, they want scouts, right?
00:21:34.860Because they realized they were defenestrated in the election by the American public.
00:21:39.500The American public said, hey, New York Times, Washington Post, Atlantic, et cetera, New Yorker magazine, none of you have any real power.
00:21:47.880We don't really give a crap what you think about anything, right?
00:21:51.180Like, and they sent the, the American public sent a massive middle finger to the establishment media and to the deep state and the, and frankly, the administrative state in Washington, D.C., and to the permanent political class of both parties' establishments.
00:22:05.140So what they're trying to do right now is sink their teeth into any one of these nominees that they can get their hands on to try to claw back some of that power.
00:22:15.840So that's why you've seen the smear campaign and these smear merchants using anonymous sources, et cetera, to go after Pete Hegseth.
00:22:24.080He seems to have really turned it around, right?
00:22:26.920Like, after he aggressively went on offense over the last few weeks and has met with senators.
00:22:33.300And I think Hegseth, you know, he's not, he's not 100% there yet, but he's pretty darn close, right?
00:22:39.320Like, and things are looking strong for him.
00:22:59.940Like, you know, he's, you know, a few thousand feet out, right?
00:23:02.720He's about to land the plane here, right?
00:23:04.480Like, so Pete Hegseth is looking strong.
00:23:06.400So as that's happened, what you've seen now is the establishment really turned their heat to other nominees, right?
00:23:12.560So they've turned their heat on Tulsi Gabbard and on RFK, and they're going to try to sink one of them.
00:23:18.660I don't know, I don't think they're going to get them, right?
00:23:21.580Like, I think right now they're both looking very strong as they're going and meeting with senators.
00:23:26.100You saw them, you know, the attacks are intensifying, and they're going to keep doing that through the holidays.
00:23:32.960But if these people get to their confirmation hearings, especially the national security-focused ones, like Kash Patel for FBI, because Chris Wray is going to resign, he said so, in the lead-up to the inauguration.
00:23:45.340So you're going to have a vacancy at the FBI director position.
00:23:47.880So like Kash Patel, like Pete Hegseth for the Pentagon, like Tulsi Gabbard, in particular for director of national intelligence, it's hard to see the Senate if people are qualified.
00:23:57.760And each of these are eminently qualified individuals.
00:24:00.780If you look at their resumes and their histories and their work on the various issues that we're talking about, it's hard to see the Senate, especially a Republican-controlled Senate, or at least supposedly so, rejecting President Trump's picks to lead his national security team.
00:24:15.100These are picks that normally get confirmed by the U.S. Senate within hours of the inauguration, right, like that night or the next morning.
00:24:24.140Because, you know, while everybody in Washington, D.C. is headed off to inaugural balls and stuff after the inauguration at noon on the 20th, the U.S. Senate goes right into work, and they go start having confirmation votes, right, to confirm a secretary of defense, an attorney general.
00:24:39.080You know, so the president has his core team around them to confirm a director of national intelligence because, guess what, you know, this is a transition from one government to the next.
00:24:49.140You need to have your core guys in place and gals in the case of Tulsi Gabbard because you need to be able to respond in case there's an issue that happens in that, you know, immediate time.
00:25:01.160That's why, you know, in third-world countries you see, you know, changes, you know, transitions from one government to another where people would target those countries.
00:25:10.400You know, the United States needs to be ready, and we need to be able to have these picks in place.
00:25:15.580So, again, assuming they all make it to their confirmation hearings, which one would think they will, you know, as their meetings with senators are going well, the establishment media is going to keep trying, but I don't think they're going to get any of them.
00:25:27.400But the reason why they're trying is they were completely rejected by the American public on Election Day.
00:25:32.740Well, and someone, you know, I haven't brought it up too much because it's like it's going a little bit, you know, it's going really well right now because people aren't pushing it.
00:25:41.500Look, there were so many people that were trying to run operations and to dislodge the Kash Patel nomination and dislodge that process and try to knock him out with these anonymous sources.
00:25:55.360Someone's planning, oh, you know, there was this op in Nigeria and it was all his fault and this and that.
00:26:00.100But then people would come out and say, no, that's not what happened at all.
00:26:03.560And Kash was great, as a matter of fact.
00:26:05.280And, you know, people want to blame him for stuff that wasn't his fault.
00:26:09.080And, you know, it really looks as though Kash has been doing just an absolute banger job going through having these meetings and he's knocking them down one by one by one.
00:26:20.220I would say the exact same thing about Tulsi Gabbard, by the way.
00:26:23.080You know, we keep hearing, oh, there's people who say she has issues.
00:26:39.260And, you know, Senator Short Round from South Dakota there, you know, I've been hearing some, some chatter, a little bit of DC chatter that Senator Mike Rounds has some issues with Tulsi Gabbard.
00:26:50.460I'd love for him to come forward and tell his constituents that he is not going to be voting for the pick of Donald J.
00:27:35.240By the way, by the way, I, I, I just got this in as so we were, we were talking about Senator Short Round yesterday, Senator Mike Rounds.
00:27:42.540I'll go back to calling him Senator Mike Rounds because we were doing this whole segment.
00:27:45.820Uh, just got a message from my producer, uh, producer Boneless that Senator Mike Rounds, as of about 1 p.m. today, came out and said that he will vote to confirm all of President Trump's cabinet nominees.
00:27:59.860The president should get the benefit of the doubt on any of any of his nominees.
00:28:07.400And, and you're seeing that from other, uh, you know, establishment type Republican senators.
00:28:11.700And again, that's the reason why President Trump should stick with these nominees.
00:28:15.200And force the Senate, uh, to, to confirm them, right?
00:28:18.680Like, again, if there are actual issues with any of them, uh, that are serious, then you cross that bridge when you come there.
00:28:25.240But the fact is that anonymous sources and thinly veiled attacks from the establishment media, uh, ain't gonna do the trick.
00:28:31.960In fact, there was more evidence against Justice Brett Kavanaugh before his confirmation to the U.S. Supreme Court than there is against all of Donald Trump's nominees combined.
00:28:40.840And, and all of that was flimsy and nonsense, uh, in the Kavanaugh situation.
00:28:45.240In this case, this case, it's even flimsier, even more nonsensical.
00:28:49.320Uh, so the fact is, is that, uh, the, the, this is a game of chicken, uh, between the deep state and Donald Trump and the Senate stands in between.
00:28:57.180So the question is, is which side of the Senate Republicans on, are they on the side of Republican voters and president Trump, or are they on the side of the deep state and the Democrats, right?
00:29:07.640By the way, as a, uh, since you, since you brought it up there, I do have to throw out that, uh, game respects game.
00:29:14.920And, you know, people say, oh, you know, post has got the receipts, but did I ever think that Brett Kavanaugh would have the receipts of his own high school calendar with the activities on it?
00:29:29.620Handwritten from like, was it 1986 from like 30 years before that would come up and to be able to debunk the anonymous.
00:29:40.500Well, at first it was anonymous and later became, uh, blazy Ford's allegations against him was to say, man, uh, you know, that guy with the receipts game like that, who's got a receipts game like that, a Supreme court justice.
00:30:10.140They were going to, we only got a minute left to the break, but they were going to lie about Pete Hegseth that ProPublica had the story was all set.
00:30:16.660They had the statement, they had everything they needed.
00:30:18.780And then all of a sudden here comes Pete Hegseth that says, wait a minute, I got a letter from the commandant of West Point.
00:30:26.660And if he hadn't saved that letter that keep in mind, these are U S government officials would have been on the record lying about him and they conspired to lie about him.
00:30:38.140But because he kept the receipts, he knew what he was in for.
00:30:43.060And by the way, that sounds like the type of guy who ought to, I don't know, maybe be running the military map.
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00:31:00.100Now, am I going to see you at AmFest this weekend or what?
00:31:03.000I'm not going to be there, but we're going to have some.
00:32:04.700But, folks, there's been a lot going on in our country.
00:32:07.080And it feels like the era of peak woke has been passed.
00:32:12.960And it feels in a lot of ways, and by the way, I don't mean it's gone, but it means that there are a number of things that hopefully as a country that the fever has broken and we can go back to actually start engaging with in a serious manner.
00:32:27.000And the acquittal of Daniel Penny just a couple of days ago in New York City, I think, was a real game changer in terms of all this.
00:32:37.460It shows a tectonic shift has taken place in the United States.
00:32:40.780Well, there was another case that involved some similar elements to that from at least the political and criminal justice perspective all the way back that started the BLM era and the era of peak woke.
00:32:56.020And that is the case of George Floyd and his accused murderer, Derek Chauvin, someone who is also actually convicted of said murder.
00:33:04.600Well, Derek Chauvin has always protested his innocence.
00:33:45.260It seems like we live in a different day.
00:33:47.980This is certainly the very first legal win for Derek Chauvin.
00:33:52.320And we've been reporting all of it over here at Alpha News.
00:33:56.940But this is a federal judge who has finally come back approving this motion that has been in the works for months to examine heart tissue in George Floyd and also some fluids from George Floyd's body as well.
00:34:12.560And basically, this is related to what's called a paraganglioma.
00:34:16.840This was discussed in the fall of Minneapolis.
00:34:19.420Some doctors came forward during Derek Chauvin's case to say, why wasn't this tumor tested in George Floyd?
00:34:27.340In many cases, it can lead to sudden cardiac death.
00:34:31.220They brought this information forward.
00:34:32.720His attorney at the time did not act upon this information, according to court documents.
00:34:39.840And also the judge, Judge Peter Cahill, ignored it as well.
00:34:43.260So in this motion, the judge has now said that this testing can take place.
00:34:49.160What really, you know, does this tumor have anything to do with his death?
00:34:54.500A lot of people are also picking up on the fact that George Floyd was not pronounced dead until about 930 that night.
00:35:01.940That's about an hour after this incident took place, something that we brought out in the documentary as well.
00:35:07.300So it's interesting that I think people are willing to have these conversations now to look at this evidence, which is really in black and white and has been since day one,
00:35:15.840which we compiled for the book, They're Lying, and for the documentary, The Fall of Minneapolis.
00:35:21.420So this really is the very first legal win for Derek Chauvin.
00:35:25.120We've also done some reporting about a state appeal as well that is similar, the fact that these medical records were ignored.
00:35:34.220Liz, you know, and obviously certainly a pardon from Governor Tim Walz is probably nowhere near on the table for Derek Chauvin.
00:35:44.220That being said, the federal charges are something that President Trump could potentially pardon.
00:35:49.480So I just want to throw that out there as other potential avenues for action on these issues.
00:35:55.620But when we when we're talking about this appeal, I learned something about the story of the appeal as I was doing some research for this.
00:36:04.300And is it true that the appeal was actually handwritten by Chauvin himself at one point?
00:36:10.440Yeah, this is really remarkable to even go back to everything that Derek Chauvin has been through in prison.
00:36:18.920I mean, something we've continued to follow.
00:36:21.880It's just eight days after the documentary was released that he's stabbed 22 times in prison.
00:36:26.900He loses access, Jack, to all his materials through that.
00:36:30.540They're basically covered and coated with blood.
00:36:33.400He's attacked in the law library as he's making copies the day after Thanksgiving last year when this attack happens.
00:36:40.660So he loses access to his his case and loses access to his computer basically through all of this as well.
00:36:48.160So he writes a handwritten note because the clock is ticking on this this entire appeal situation.
00:36:53.340Writes a handwritten note that I'm going to file this appeal.
00:36:56.160I'm working on it, but with some details from the fall of Minneapolis will be included along with this this medical evidence.
00:37:03.780You know, here's you know, here's that letter.
00:37:05.880And that's what was submitted to to the judge.
00:37:09.180And then his public defender went in and filled out more of that appeal.
00:37:13.560And this is now what that judge has has ruled on.
00:37:17.620And that's something we also continue to follow what's happened to him since he's been transferred now three different times.
00:37:22.500This this former FBI informant who tried to kill him is now supposed to go on trial in February.
00:37:30.000But this will be the fourth time that trial has been postponed.
00:37:34.300Well, Liz, I just have to say, I mean, there's there's something about.
00:37:39.180The story that you just told that gives us all pause and should give us all pause,
00:37:44.760is that this is someone, Derek Chauvin, who was so persecuted in the court of public opinion prior to any official proceeding, state or federal, the federal charges.
00:37:58.380I think he just he pled out because I don't think he was he thought that there was any possibility of the truth coming up in that trial.
00:38:04.680And there probably wasn't at the time that he was and then assaulted in prison, attempted to be killed in prison, I should even say.
00:38:13.860And he was so isolated that he had to write an appeal himself without even the use of a printer.
00:38:22.760He hand wrote a letter to the judge asking him to please take a look at the fact, essentially, that, as you say, George Floyd had a heart tumor,
00:38:33.080which wasn't even brought up at trial by his initial attorney, Eric Nelson.
00:38:38.200And the fact that so many other things that were seemingly just brushed away at trial, for example, the fact that George Floyd's, I believe they call it antemortem blood was taken at the hospital.
00:38:55.660So before death, meaning that Floyd was alive when he arrived at the hospital.
00:39:01.880And all of these things clearly warrant just on a basic case of justice and the truth that there should be some kind of reexamination of what went on here.
00:39:16.100Yeah, let's not forget this very problematic response by the ambulance that day that was not allowed in Derek Chauvin's trial either.
00:39:25.120You know, normally that it would be a minute or two before paramedics arrive.
00:39:30.320Well, that that was, you know, nearly nearly 10 minutes after going to the wrong location.
00:39:34.660That's joked about basically in their their body camera footage.
00:39:38.640The paramedics are open that they got there, you know, so late.
00:39:42.340And they can't even actually admit that in Derek Chauvin's trial.
00:39:45.760So it really is just sort of all of these things that are compounded and how the script really was was written from the beginning going into to his trial.
00:39:55.640And Alex King speaks to this in the fall of Minneapolis.
00:39:58.200Remember, he's the officer on the streets for three days and is still serving time in prison for this.
00:41:50.480Look, we're back here with Liz Collin, who's just been doing fantastic work on the Derek Chauvin case, breaking scoop after scoop and has interviewed Derek a number of times.
00:42:01.200By the way, Liz, so have you have you had a chance to speak with him after this news has come out of this ruling?
00:42:07.960Yeah, not since this ruling was just announced yesterday.
00:42:13.500So not not since then, I have been in touch with his mother, obviously, you know, just any sort of light at the end of the tunnel.
00:42:21.220At this point, you know, he is set to be released from prison 14 years from now.
00:42:25.480That's the date that they're working with.
00:42:27.560And they've had, you know, setback after setback as well, finding a new attorney and a lot of different legal maneuvers happening behind the scenes.
00:42:37.320And so walk us through a little bit and give us some some more understanding of what the nature of this appeal is.
00:42:44.460And I think to most people hearing that George Floyd had a tumor, even those of us who were watching the trial really does come as big news.
00:42:52.960Yeah, and also, it really was reported very early on cardiopulmonary arrest is what appeared first on George Floyd's death certificate that was done within 12 hours, you know, of of his death.
00:43:11.940However, I shouldn't I shouldn't say publicly available.
00:43:13.800It was available and you have these meetings happening behind the scenes with prosecutors and Dr. Baker, the Hennepin County medical examiner.
00:43:20.840And this is when the word homicide is added to the autopsy and complicated by law enforcement.
00:43:28.740Subdual is added to the autopsy as well.
00:43:31.840So that did not appear in within those initial 12 hours and that initial autopsy.
00:43:37.060So basically, these doctors came forward in in 2021.
00:43:41.620I can't let you I can't let you skip over your because you had the scoop on this.
00:43:46.340Were there any meetings that federal officials may have held during that time period?
00:43:50.840Yes, you have the FBI present, you have prosecutors present with with the actual medical examiner.
00:43:58.740And I detail this quite a bit in in the book, they're lying, the media, the left and the death of George Floyd.
00:44:05.280But just how this never has happened before.
00:44:07.960This is not something where we bring a bunch of people in and get their outside opinion.
00:44:12.220Dr. Baker, in fact, admits to the pressure he was under in in in conducting George Floyd's autopsy.
00:44:20.120He talks about that himself in court filings.
00:44:22.720So that's all a part of the public record here as well.
00:44:25.960But this information about the paraganglioma is presented to Eric Nelson, Derek Chauvin's attorney also presented to Judge Peter Cahill.
00:44:35.860Once these doctors are getting word and seeing these this public documentation for themselves about this paraganglioma, they're asking, you know, has this been tested?
00:44:45.860The answer is no. Well, it should be tested because in many cases it can lead to sudden cardiac death.
00:44:52.260But instead of actually, you know, following through with that testing at the time, Derek is not even told about this tumor, doesn't understand its significance, is not privy to the information from these doctors.
00:45:04.860So this is why he's always sort of held on to this as information that he thought should have been checked out further in his case.
00:45:14.060So this federal judge has now said, let's go ahead with that testing and and see what, you know, what the results yield here.
00:45:23.000So is the I guess then the line of thinking would be if the tumor was in in fact did play a role in the cardiopulmonary arrest, which I mean, it reasonably you would probably think that it would.
00:45:37.120Then the fact that this information, this evidence, which, of course, would be exculpatory to Chauvin, the fact that it was not included anywhere and that his defense team was not given Nelson, who, by the way, did really did a stand up job at the trial.
00:45:52.200I mean, he was he was under a lot of pressure himself and did a very stand up job.
00:45:55.320I watched every minute of it. The fact that this information was not included or provided to the defense team would create a huge issue for the conviction, would it not?
00:46:06.120Well, this is where it's going to get a little complicated because you have a federal appeal.
00:46:12.460Also, a state appeal is in the works as well, which is similar pointing to this this tumor.
00:46:18.100But there's already a lot of information here, Jack, that points to that George Floyd died of a heart attack.
00:46:24.440And that's from the very first autopsy. Again, this is there's no strangulation marks.
00:46:29.860There's no bruising. George Floyd did not die of asphyxiation three times the lethal limit of of fentanyl in his system, methamphetamine.
00:46:38.040He has covid. He has enlarged organs. He has blockage in his heart.
00:46:42.640These are all things that that are already there on his autopsy report.
00:46:49.400It's just in the end, it sounds like jurors decided to to go ahead and listen to the expert witness for the prosecution and not really focus so much on, you know, the the original autopsy.
00:47:01.740Dr. Baker obviously took the stand in Derek Chauvin's trial as well.
00:47:05.300So it's hard to predict what will what will come of this.
00:47:08.040But, you know, this does seem to show that people are at least willing to, you know, look at look at this now, perhaps in a different light.
00:47:17.600No, I think it does. And the timing of it, given all of the recent changes we've seen in our country, given the acquittal of Daniel Penny,
00:47:26.340it it just kind of speaks to a certain zeitgeist or something in the air that the worm has turned on so many of these social justice and criminal justice issues that, as you say,
00:47:38.620basic evidence questions about the fact that the medical team wasn't able to arrive in time, something that Chauvin himself would have had no control over.
00:47:48.180Or, by the way, the fact that they were not able to perform to perform basic lifesaving functions on Floyd immediately because of the presence of the large crowd that had been held around,
00:48:00.080which is, again, something that that Chauvin would have had no control over all of these various things played major factors in the untimely death of Mr. Floyd.
00:48:11.440But again, none of those were things that were within Derek Chauvin's control or his purview.
00:48:17.460The only thing that was, was the training he had received from the Minneapolis Police Department and him following through the tactics that he had been trained on.
00:48:27.140Liz Collin, where can people go to get more information about this?
00:48:30.760Because I think there's just a huge appetite for it right now.
00:48:34.320Follow Minneapolis dot com. If you click on the news section there, we put all our updates, but also alpha news dot org.
00:48:39.820Follow me on X. Also, Liz Collin and Alpha News MN on X, too.
00:48:45.580But good to see you, Jack. Thank you again for bringing light to this case and and hope to see you again here soon.
00:48:52.160No, no, we'll certainly be back. Liz Collin, one day they will be naming awards after her.
00:48:57.960Merry Christmas, Liz. And ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission.