On today's show, Jack Posobiec talks about the latest conspiracy theory surrounding the assassination of U.S. CEO Brian Thompson, and the possible link to the Trump administration. Plus, the Biden White House is discussing preemptive pardons for those in Trump's crosshairs.
00:15:00.620And, uh, you know, you've got to, you've got to pass through, you've got to pass through, you know,
00:15:05.300purgatory and, and, and heaven and then hell itself to get the, to the final apogee of the apotheosis of, of, of all of this.
00:15:14.040And it, it, it, it's, it's amazing being here.
00:15:18.000And, um, you know, I've been down at Mar-a-Lago and, you know, through the, the transition offices and, and having some of those meetings and see put together.
00:15:26.420And what's amazing, and people don't realize this, but all the nominees over there, uh, Elon's team, Vivek's team, even Bobby Kennedy, um, Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard.
00:15:37.980They're sitting there and the nominees themselves are conducting the meetings and Elon and Vivek, when it comes to this type of stuff, I mean, they will sit there across their arms.
00:15:48.940And if they don't like what you're hearing, you are out, you are out so fast.
00:15:52.480I mean, you've got to make a pitch because you, you've got these people coming through it with their, with their resumes and they say, Oh, look at my resume.
00:16:01.920And, and then of course the first question is always, and it's not just them.
00:16:05.200It's a, you know, sort of the, there's a lot of the Silicon Valley, uh, uh, entities and equities that have come over that have experienced this.
00:16:12.980Mark Andreessen, I was talking about it on another Joe Rogan episode where they'll say, well, if you're part of the system, why haven't you done anything to try to fix this system?
00:16:22.480And why should I trust you because you've been part of it for so long?
00:16:26.960I mean, that's really the issue here, isn't it?
00:16:29.060Um, yeah, and I saw an incredible statistic about the average age of Trump 2.0 nominees.
00:17:09.200I mean, there is, there is very much a, you know, uh, youth oriented reform oriented, uh, energy here.
00:17:22.380And I, and what you just said about the energy at Mar-a-Lago with, you know, you get in and get it done or, or get out.
00:17:30.180And, uh, that's the nature of so many of these picks.
00:17:35.880I mean, putting in Kash Patel at FBI, who's basically said he wants to smash the business of his usual of the FBI.
00:17:46.600Putting Bobby Kennedy at HHS when he says he wants to smash the, you know, in large part, much of, uh, what HHS has, has been doing for so long.
00:17:57.220But, uh, Jay Bhattacharya at NIH, who, I mean, these, these are, Trump is systematically putting people in charge of agencies, uh, who have effectively sworn to, um, oppose what those agencies have stood for in many respects.
00:18:15.600Which is totally appropriate because those agencies have gone rogue and they need reform.
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00:21:12.760So as a guy who has intimately become aware with the machinations of our government, as you like to call it, the blob, how do you go about fighting the blob?
00:21:25.280What do you think would be – I'll put it this way.
00:21:26.960What do you think would be the most effective thing to focus in on first, if there is any one keynote?
00:21:33.000Well, you know, the nature of the blob is that it is so decentralized.
00:21:41.300But if there is one keynote immediately, just because of the sheer size of the funding that runs through it in terms of the funding of Internet censorship capacities,
00:21:53.640you know, a lot of people raise their eyebrows when I say this, because they're expecting me to say the CIA or the FBI.
00:22:00.680But the fact is, is the National Science Foundation is actually the number one funder, especially on the domestic side of Internet censorship.
00:22:11.420And the National Science Foundation, I encourage you when I say this and I walk you through these programs I'm about to lay out here,
00:22:18.880that you don't think of the National Science Foundation as being the name that comes to mind when you hear the phrase science.
00:22:26.920The National Science Foundation is the civilian arm of DARPA.
00:22:31.300It is a defense-oriented civilian foundation.
00:22:37.640It's got a 15% mandatory quota and it's charter for national security.
00:22:44.380DARPA administers – this is essentially where dual-use military technology gets transferred over to the civilian commercial realm.
00:22:54.580So, for example, the Internet itself was a DARPA creation and then it was transferred over to the National Science Foundation for the rollout to civilians for the World Wide Web.
00:23:08.120And so the National Science Foundation is essentially a cover in the same way that USAID is often for intelligence work for the kind of civilian projects that the military wants to do but can't get caught doing.
00:23:25.240Because it would look sick and twisted if the Pentagon was directly giving so much money to social media censorship projects targeting U.S. citizens.
00:23:36.140So instead, they walk down the street against the National Science Foundation to do it.
00:23:40.040There's two programs that total about $100 million in pure funding for domestic social media censorship that can be cut right away and do an unbelievable amount of damage to the censorship beast.
00:23:55.980One of them is called the Secure Trust in Cyberspace Program, which is a program to academic universities to do disinformation studies research.
00:24:13.980And this is tens of millions of dollars that go to a sprawling web of U.S. colleges and universities so that they can do full-time censorship work, mapping what you and I tweet about, pressuring social media companies to take our posts down, creating nudges in the algorithms in order to tune down the keywords or political ideas that we're expressing.
00:24:41.560Sort of a, you know, sort of a, you know, to play mad scientist and to fine tune the science of censorship.
00:24:48.780And that's every major university in the country right now is a grant through that National Science Foundation program.
00:24:54.680Harvard, MIT, Berkeley, Brown, George Washington University, University of Washington, University of Texas, Austin, you name it.
00:25:08.840I mean, there's, there's, you know, over 60 of these.
00:25:12.500And then there's also another National Science Foundation program called the Convergence Accelerator Track F program, which is a censorship program at the National Science Foundation, which doesn't just fund the research, like the Secure Trust in Cyberspace program,
00:25:29.060but it actually funds AI technology tools that will do the censorship scanning and banning more efficiently, essentially funding the science of AI censorship.
00:25:42.240I actually played a few clips from that program on the Joe Rogan show this week, that, that company, that, that wise decks clip about halfway through the internet, halfway through the interview was, was funded by the National Science Foundation's Track F program.
00:25:59.060And that's another several tens of millions of dollars in funding.
00:26:03.120So you knock out about a hundred million dollars of censorship, military capital, essentially, in the same way that, you know, the U.S. government sanctions foreign countries to economically cripple them,
00:26:17.360to stop their warfighting capacities in, when, in the context of a hot war, that's the mentality Doge has to have about things like internet freedom.
00:26:29.180Every dollar that flows from the U.S. government to someone who's pledged to use that money to censor U.S. citizens, despite having, ostensibly, First Amendment protection,
00:26:40.420that is, that is, that should have been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, who completely goofed the Murthy-Missouri decision.
00:26:48.120So if it's, if we're not going to get that, that done by the Supreme Court, it should be done by the Supreme Doge.
00:26:56.780And I love this. I think I, I, this is something too, as well, where, you know, you're, you're right.
00:27:02.560It's, it's not even, you know, something that anyone has on their radar, this, you know, National Science Foundation, that's, you know,
00:27:08.860it's one of these independent agencies that sort of just sits out there, like, like the, this is basically the, you know,
00:27:15.260the non-medical arm of what the NIH does. So it's, it's the NIH for the other varieties of science.
00:27:22.640And what you're talking about, though, is essentially the link, right?
00:27:28.560This is the lifeblood of not just finance, but power, not just financing, but actual power between the federal government
00:27:37.240and academia. And this is why you get these linkages between this public-private sphere
00:27:45.460that seems to exist. And they'll say, oh, no, no, no, the Stanford Internet Observatory, or, you know,
00:27:51.100the, the former Shorenstein Center over at Harvard, you know, we are not, we're not public entities.
00:27:57.040So we can do, we can provide censorship in a way that the government cannot. And yet, of course,
00:28:01.920they're receiving this level of federal funding and people know that they are federally backed.
00:28:06.320This would essentially sever that link. I mean, you're cutting the umbilical cord
00:28:12.240between federal government and federal power and these private entities, if you were able to come
00:28:17.820at this. Oh, and we would never accept this if a foreign country did it. I mean, how quick are we to
00:28:26.660say if something, you know, or, you know, if some organization ordered pizza from, you know, a local
00:28:35.780joint and the, and the driver was Russian, how quickly we would say, oh, well, it's a Russian conduit.
00:28:43.220And yet we have, you know, direct government funding of an outside asset to do the thing. The government is
00:28:51.360either legally barred or there would be too much PR blowback if they did it themselves.
00:28:58.960That is in the grant application. And then they step back and say, oh, well, it's not the government,
00:29:06.560you know, I mean, so, but I actually emphasize this on the, on that, you know, Rogan episode this week,
00:29:14.800when I played the state department and USAID and NAD joint seps program primer guide, and they have a
00:29:24.000whole countering disinformation, uh, you know, guidebook on this, but I, you know, I played that
00:29:30.320sort of Orwellian clip of the, uh, the worldwide censorship program being, being run out of, uh, state
00:29:38.640USAID and, and the national down for democracy. And it went over, you know, nine points in that, uh,
00:29:45.600in that video. And one of the points was that governments need to fund outside groups to do
00:29:53.520the censorship work, to create this whole of society surround sound on sent on censorship pressure.
00:30:00.400And because the governments have the money, but not the credibility, the NGOs have the credibility,
00:30:10.240but not the money. And so you take the money from the government and the credibility from the NGOs,
00:30:18.720and you mash them together because they don't want it to be perceived that we're just like China.
00:30:24.400We're just like Russia. It's the government commanding censorship.
00:30:28.160So they don't have the credibility to do that, but they've got the money and all of these
00:30:33.680non-governmental organizations. They are independent organizations. Don't you know,
00:30:39.200they're independent institutions. They're democratic institutions. They've got so much
00:30:44.560of that lovely, bubbly credibility, but they don't have the money. So that's how you get these
00:30:50.640hundred million dollar grant programs.
00:30:52.960And essentially what it is, is a free flow of capital and a fleet, a free flow of financing to
00:31:01.040the enemies of the Republic. And that absolutely needs to stop in a variety of a variety of vectors.
00:31:09.760It's not just one umbilical cord, but that is a fantastic one to chip away at and to snip,
00:31:16.320shall we say, we're going to snip the umbilical cord between government and academia.
00:31:21.360Right back, Jack Posobiec, Mike Benz, breaking it all down to Human Events Daily.
00:31:24.640And Jack, where is Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.
00:31:40.720Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always
00:31:48.480talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be