Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 17, 2025


Making Beasts of Men： Why are Two High-Profile Political Assassins Tied to the Furry Fetish？


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

147.75102

Word Count

7,023

Sentence Count

428

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crookes has disturbing furry fetishes. President Trump is now urging House Republicans to release the Jeffrey Epstein files. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is pushing back after former Fox News host Tucker Carlson accuses the FBI of lying about the gunman who tried to assassinate President Donald Trump in July 2024.


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00:00:49.300 Christ is king.
00:00:50.740 We may be having some discussions with Maduro, and we'll see how that turns out.
00:00:57.180 They would like to talk.
00:01:00.340 It comes amid a massive U.S. military buildup in the region.
00:01:03.920 The world's largest aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald Ford, arriving in the Caribbean over the weekend.
00:01:09.660 This powerful image showing it with three destroyers in tow, a B-52 bomber, and multiple fighter jets flying overhead.
00:01:17.660 15,000 military forces now operating in the Caribbean, the largest American presence in decades.
00:01:23.460 Part of a mission dubbed Operation Southern Spear.
00:01:26.820 Operation Home for the Holidays, rescuing 122 kids in what is being called the largest child recovery operation in U.S. history.
00:01:35.940 Here in Florida, our prosecutors, if you hurt our kids, we will go after you to the absolute fullest.
00:01:41.440 We will lock you up for as long as possible, and where eligible, we will seek the death penalty.
00:01:46.460 President Trump is now urging House Republicans to vote to release the Jeffrey Epstein files, writing, quote, we have nothing to hide.
00:01:54.860 They're using Jeffrey Epstein as a deflection from the tremendous success that we're having.
00:02:00.980 A House vote is expected tomorrow.
00:02:03.200 There are a lot of other people who are involved who have to be held accountable.
00:02:06.860 President Trump has directed a Justice Department probe into Epstein's ties to top Democrats, including former President Bill Clinton and major banks,
00:02:15.640 after a House panel released more than 20,000 documents from the estate of the deceased sex offender,
00:02:21.420 whom the president previously said he cut ties with years ago.
00:02:25.400 Both Trump and Clinton have denied knowing of Epstein's crimes.
00:02:29.040 The Federal Bureau of Investigation is pushing back after former Fox News host Tucker Carlson accused the Bureau of lying about the gunman
00:02:38.660 who tried to assassinate U.S. President Donald Trump in July 2024.
00:02:44.800 Carlson suggested that the FBI hid evidence of Thomas Matthew Crookes' online activity.
00:02:51.020 The FBI replied directly, saying it never stated that Crookes had no online footprint at all.
00:02:56.380 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:03:02.760 We're here live in Washington, D.C.
00:03:07.360 We're figuring out the latest on political violence in America.
00:03:12.940 Today is November 17, 2025, Anno Domini.
00:03:16.280 Folks, massive, massive story out both this weekend, starting with the Tucker Carlson show,
00:03:24.240 and then this morning, incredible piece by Miranda Devine in the New York Post regarding the secrets of Trump's killer.
00:03:35.180 And what we find here is a social media footprint that was not released to the public,
00:03:42.840 that did not come out to the public, that was not made at the time to anyone.
00:03:49.500 And if you go and look at the Daily Mail, their headline here that they pulled, it very clear.
00:03:55.980 Trump shooter Thomas Crookes disturbing trans furry fetishes revealed.
00:04:03.340 Now, here's what's interesting.
00:04:07.840 What did we talk about all last week?
00:04:10.600 Well, all last week we talked about the potential furry fetishes,
00:04:15.260 or what we know of, the furry fetishes of Tyler Robinson,
00:04:19.640 the man who's alleged to be the killer of Charlie Kirk.
00:04:25.140 So,
00:04:26.700 Trump's would-be assassin appears to have used they-them pronouns on a website known for hosting pornographic furry material,
00:04:35.360 linked to various accounts on a website called DeviantArt.
00:04:39.020 The website hosts sexually explicit images of furries, human-like animal characters.
00:04:44.280 The accounts linked to crooks, used they-them pronouns used by the trans community,
00:04:51.000 and his activity suggests a high interest in cartoon characters with ripped male physiques and female heads.
00:05:00.560 Folks,
00:05:02.240 we have to talk about this and we have to be serious.
00:05:05.760 How is it possible that two now, two of the most high-profile assassinations,
00:05:16.000 one attempted, one completed,
00:05:18.520 in this country,
00:05:21.020 coming within
00:05:21.780 less than 18 months of each other, about one year of each other,
00:05:26.080 both have ties to the same type of fetish,
00:05:33.900 as is reported here,
00:05:35.740 this furry fetish.
00:05:39.840 Dr. Chloe Carmichael wrote in,
00:05:42.540 and we're going to have her on the show
00:05:43.800 later on talking about this,
00:05:46.300 she wrote that,
00:05:47.580 Prooks' fixation on hybrid male-female body art
00:05:51.140 and Robinson's trans obsessions
00:05:53.560 both suggest a drift away
00:05:55.340 from basic human grounding.
00:05:58.020 It's no surprise that they're both interested in furries.
00:06:00.860 It's just a further derailment of their concept of humanity.
00:06:04.000 This dovetails with treating the special human gift of language as dangerous,
00:06:08.400 believing that those who express disagreement threaten their existence.
00:06:11.500 The entire mentality erodes respect for human life,
00:06:15.440 creates irrational fear of ideological opponents,
00:06:18.660 and leaves them unwilling or unable to use words to navigate differences.
00:06:23.400 So, they default to violence instead.
00:06:26.480 Now, I've got a piece up at humanevents.com.
00:06:29.940 I wrote a, call it a flash op-ed.
00:06:33.400 You guys can go get that at humanevents.com right now, today,
00:06:37.420 and go read this,
00:06:38.640 because it's,
00:06:41.020 look, it's just,
00:06:42.660 it's some of my thoughts that I put it down,
00:06:44.800 trying to understand how we got to this moment.
00:06:48.520 And I said,
00:06:49.240 making beasts of men.
00:06:51.600 Why are two high-profile political assassins
00:06:54.160 reportedly tied to the furry fetish?
00:06:57.360 Folks, we need to understand this.
00:06:59.540 We need to understand how young white men
00:07:02.580 and their demonization and disposition in this country
00:07:06.360 is driving towards more and more extreme sexual behavior,
00:07:11.640 fetishes,
00:07:12.500 and yes,
00:07:13.580 violence.
00:07:14.100 We'll be right back, humanevents.com.
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00:08:55.320 Folks,
00:08:55.800 I want to get in
00:08:56.300 and read a little bit more
00:08:57.640 of this op-ed
00:08:59.500 that's up at
00:08:59.900 humanevents.com.
00:09:01.980 I wrote it this morning,
00:09:03.580 kind of a flash piece.
00:09:05.660 Jack Poso
00:09:06.200 making beasts of men
00:09:07.320 wire two high-profile
00:09:08.980 political assassins
00:09:09.900 reportedly tied to the furry fetish.
00:09:12.320 Crooks
00:09:12.660 and Robinson
00:09:14.000 both
00:09:14.540 fit the profile perfectly.
00:09:17.020 Socially isolated,
00:09:18.260 downwardly mobile,
00:09:19.200 young,
00:09:19.620 might men
00:09:20.100 from working class
00:09:21.480 or middle class suburbs
00:09:22.680 radicalized
00:09:23.460 in the exact
00:09:24.100 online spaces
00:09:25.080 where economic resentment,
00:09:26.600 racial grievance,
00:09:27.380 and sexual deviancy
00:09:28.660 all converge.
00:09:30.920 And these are two names
00:09:32.000 that should haunt
00:09:32.560 every parent,
00:09:33.600 policymaker,
00:09:34.160 and patriot right now.
00:09:35.660 Thomas Matthew...
00:09:36.140 And guys,
00:09:36.480 let's show the photos
00:09:37.400 of them both.
00:09:38.380 Thomas Matthew Crooks,
00:09:39.860 the 20-year-old
00:09:40.460 who climbed onto a rooftop
00:09:41.700 in Butler, Pennsylvania
00:09:42.880 on July 13, 2024
00:09:44.740 and fired the shot.
00:09:45.960 It came within inches
00:09:46.680 of killing President Donald Trump.
00:09:48.500 Then Tyler Robinson,
00:09:49.760 the 22-year-old
00:09:50.820 who walked into an event
00:09:52.200 at Utah Valley University
00:09:53.580 and allegedly executed
00:09:55.040 conservative activist
00:09:56.040 Charlie Kirk in cold blood.
00:09:57.880 When I went to the White House
00:09:58.660 and talked about
00:09:59.160 left-wing violence,
00:09:59.980 I talked about
00:10:00.720 the profile
00:10:02.200 of these individuals.
00:10:03.820 I told the President
00:10:04.260 of the United States himself
00:10:05.360 that there is a profile,
00:10:06.980 there is a pattern.
00:10:07.960 We need to understand it.
00:10:10.000 And I want to throw
00:10:10.380 some facts out here.
00:10:12.640 The crisis is not just
00:10:14.400 young men.
00:10:15.780 It's specifically
00:10:16.260 young white men
00:10:17.260 who have experienced
00:10:18.080 the sharpest,
00:10:18.740 most psychologically
00:10:19.380 disorienting fall
00:10:20.320 from grace
00:10:20.760 in modern American history.
00:10:22.200 And that precipitous drop
00:10:23.360 is the single biggest driver
00:10:24.640 of the online perversion
00:10:26.180 to political violence pipeline
00:10:27.660 we're watching in real time.
00:10:29.080 Go back to 1970.
00:10:30.920 A white man
00:10:31.580 with only a high school diploma
00:10:33.160 had a 75-80% chance
00:10:35.620 of earning more
00:10:36.900 inflation-adjusted
00:10:37.900 than his father.
00:10:39.040 By 2020,
00:10:40.100 that number had collapsed
00:10:41.040 to 50%.
00:10:42.360 The worst intergenerational
00:10:44.240 decline of any demographic group
00:10:45.940 in the entire country.
00:10:47.440 White men without college degrees
00:10:48.840 saw their real wages
00:10:50.000 fall 15%
00:10:51.280 from 1979
00:10:52.420 to 2022
00:10:54.000 while every other
00:10:55.400 major racial,
00:10:56.880 gender,
00:10:57.180 or gender group
00:10:57.980 held either steady
00:10:59.480 or gained.
00:11:00.220 The labor force
00:11:01.100 participation rate
00:11:02.200 for prime-age white men
00:11:03.880 25 to 54
00:11:05.040 has cratered
00:11:05.980 from 97%
00:11:07.460 in 1960
00:11:08.260 to 88%
00:11:09.780 today,
00:11:10.500 the lowest
00:11:10.900 of any racial group.
00:11:13.080 Suicide rates,
00:11:13.940 opioid deaths,
00:11:14.800 deaths of despair
00:11:15.460 are overwhelmingly concentrated
00:11:17.400 among white
00:11:18.160 working-class males
00:11:19.320 and those are the same males
00:11:20.420 that face,
00:11:21.640 same white males
00:11:22.920 who face alienation
00:11:24.140 from every elite university,
00:11:26.060 institution,
00:11:27.000 corporate HR,
00:11:28.000 university admissions,
00:11:29.280 government contracting,
00:11:30.660 policies that discriminate
00:11:31.720 against them,
00:11:32.580 affirmative action,
00:11:33.380 DEI hires,
00:11:34.260 quote-unquote,
00:11:35.020 diversity hires,
00:11:36.080 and the endless media drumbeat
00:11:37.540 that white men
00:11:38.560 are the problem
00:11:39.240 and tell them in a thousand ways
00:11:40.700 that the system
00:11:41.480 no longer has a place
00:11:42.740 for them
00:11:43.140 unless they apologize
00:11:44.620 for existing
00:11:46.120 and you wonder
00:11:46.840 why then
00:11:47.480 they disassociate
00:11:48.800 with reality,
00:11:49.800 they disassociate
00:11:50.700 from a system
00:11:51.440 that hates them
00:11:52.480 and they find
00:11:54.180 more and more
00:11:55.440 association
00:11:56.540 with radicalization,
00:11:58.880 radical sexual behaviors
00:12:00.140 online.
00:12:00.800 We saw this before
00:12:01.300 in a place
00:12:01.820 a hundred years ago
00:12:03.320 called the Weimar Republic
00:12:05.300 in Weimar, Germany.
00:12:06.740 I wanted to bring on
00:12:07.420 someone who understands
00:12:08.800 this and so much more
00:12:10.200 as my co-author
00:12:11.120 from Unhumans,
00:12:12.300 The Secret History
00:12:12.800 of Communist Revolutions
00:12:13.640 and How to Crush Them
00:12:14.560 Joshua Lysak.
00:12:15.980 Joshua, how are you?
00:12:17.720 Well enough.
00:12:18.460 Thank you for having me on, Jack.
00:12:20.620 Well, Joshua,
00:12:21.500 we're working through
00:12:22.540 some of these profiles.
00:12:23.720 Obviously, you and I
00:12:24.740 wrote the very first book
00:12:26.960 on Thomas Matthew Crook's
00:12:30.160 Bulletproof,
00:12:31.400 the plot to kill
00:12:33.260 President Trump
00:12:34.080 and the untold stories
00:12:35.840 of this.
00:12:36.280 We now have new information.
00:12:37.900 I certainly hope,
00:12:38.700 certainly expect
00:12:39.780 we've got perhaps
00:12:40.900 a second edition
00:12:41.700 in store here.
00:12:43.620 What do you make,
00:12:44.540 before we get into
00:12:45.420 my analysis,
00:12:46.360 what do you make
00:12:47.060 of the new information
00:12:48.120 that links
00:12:49.260 Thomas Matthew Crooks
00:12:50.440 with gender ideology,
00:12:53.040 with perhaps
00:12:54.560 the furry fetish
00:12:55.480 as well?
00:12:56.980 Well, with this
00:12:57.880 furry business,
00:12:58.700 it's not surprising
00:13:00.140 because making
00:13:01.140 men of beasts,
00:13:02.040 that's dehumanizing,
00:13:03.420 that's,
00:13:03.980 to use another verb,
00:13:05.860 unhumaning
00:13:06.860 of an individual
00:13:08.020 taking the soul
00:13:10.080 of a human being
00:13:10.940 and equating it
00:13:11.880 to the sexual activity
00:13:13.900 of literally animals,
00:13:16.040 a sort of quasi-bestiality
00:13:17.620 type of shenanigans
00:13:18.880 over there.
00:13:19.920 I don't think
00:13:20.880 we could have picked
00:13:21.560 a better title
00:13:22.340 for this sort of
00:13:23.380 far left-wing
00:13:24.940 aligned ideology
00:13:26.500 and behavior
00:13:27.540 because when you,
00:13:29.460 when you state that
00:13:30.540 there's nothing special
00:13:31.920 about humans,
00:13:33.280 human beings,
00:13:34.160 the soul,
00:13:34.640 which is part and parcel
00:13:35.840 with left-wing ideology,
00:13:38.180 far left-wing
00:13:38.960 tends to be
00:13:39.960 extraordinarily atheistic
00:13:41.940 and it's rejection
00:13:43.580 of all things
00:13:44.660 metaphysical,
00:13:47.360 spiritual,
00:13:48.420 and makes
00:13:49.180 an all-powerful government
00:13:51.140 effectively
00:13:51.760 a stand-in for God.
00:13:53.940 The philosophical
00:13:55.740 downstream of that
00:13:57.020 practically
00:13:57.620 is we're not special,
00:13:59.720 we're just animals,
00:14:01.340 so we should just
00:14:02.640 act like it.
00:14:03.580 And this is a warped,
00:14:05.060 bizarre sort of
00:14:06.680 turbo-maxed version
00:14:09.040 of that far left-wing
00:14:10.760 ideology
00:14:11.440 that unhumans
00:14:12.400 an individual
00:14:13.460 with the,
00:14:14.340 with the furry
00:14:15.180 and the gender
00:14:16.120 sort of thing
00:14:16.660 because if
00:14:17.580 there's nothing,
00:14:19.540 let's say,
00:14:21.020 transcendent
00:14:21.800 about the male
00:14:23.120 and the female
00:14:23.800 and male and female
00:14:25.300 he created them,
00:14:26.880 if you completely
00:14:27.920 reject that ideology
00:14:29.000 or that sort of
00:14:29.800 origin story
00:14:30.540 of humanity,
00:14:31.060 then you can just be
00:14:32.280 whatever you want
00:14:33.400 and I have observed
00:14:34.440 this in individuals
00:14:35.340 in my own life
00:14:36.400 and this is where
00:14:37.060 that racial resentment
00:14:38.800 gets into the picture.
00:14:40.760 Jack,
00:14:41.100 I have seen kids
00:14:42.760 go from being,
00:14:44.460 you know,
00:14:44.820 straight,
00:14:45.440 white,
00:14:46.120 male
00:14:46.640 to begin to
00:14:49.520 fall in with
00:14:50.920 the gender crowd,
00:14:52.020 let's say,
00:14:52.360 the gender-bending crowd,
00:14:53.880 transvestites,
00:14:54.760 and with the
00:14:56.740 self-hating language
00:14:58.420 about how awful
00:14:59.720 white people are
00:15:00.600 and white people
00:15:01.180 are so oppressive
00:15:02.260 and we're like
00:15:04.320 worse than animals,
00:15:05.540 I have heard that
00:15:06.260 expression used
00:15:07.360 to refer to
00:15:08.760 specifically
00:15:09.860 young white men,
00:15:11.340 like animals
00:15:11.940 or worse than animals,
00:15:13.060 that sort of
00:15:13.560 unhumaning
00:15:14.560 animalization
00:15:15.780 of them.
00:15:16.540 It's the opposite
00:15:17.120 of anthropomorphizing,
00:15:19.000 actually,
00:15:19.660 which is a word
00:15:20.600 where you kind of
00:15:21.500 describe animals
00:15:23.000 like people
00:15:23.780 in a certain way.
00:15:24.460 It's doing the opposite.
00:15:26.400 Unhuman works
00:15:27.380 as the verb here.
00:15:28.680 And they go from
00:15:29.540 being straight,
00:15:30.220 white males
00:15:30.680 to being openly
00:15:32.380 bisexual
00:15:33.140 or to being homosexual
00:15:34.460 and then you start
00:15:36.460 seeing makeup
00:15:37.640 and you start
00:15:38.320 seeing nails,
00:15:39.220 you start seeing
00:15:39.960 other accessories
00:15:40.900 and I have seen
00:15:42.320 individuals go from
00:15:43.300 being straight,
00:15:44.120 white males
00:15:45.020 with not a whole lot
00:15:45.960 of economic prospects
00:15:47.160 spending all of their
00:15:48.660 time on Reddit
00:15:49.660 or these other websites
00:15:50.860 and disassociating
00:15:52.040 from friends
00:15:52.700 and family
00:15:53.280 being 20,
00:15:54.140 21,
00:15:54.500 22,
00:15:54.840 23 years old,
00:15:55.980 still living
00:15:56.660 in mom and dad's house,
00:15:57.920 not having a lot
00:15:58.600 of career prospects
00:15:59.320 and then one day
00:16:00.660 announcing that
00:16:01.460 you're going
00:16:01.880 dress shopping
00:16:03.140 and you go by
00:16:04.160 she,
00:16:04.580 her pronouns
00:16:05.220 or by
00:16:05.900 they,
00:16:06.440 them pronouns.
00:16:07.280 And I have seen
00:16:08.160 this directly start
00:16:09.200 with left-wing
00:16:10.880 anti-white,
00:16:12.440 anti-male rhetoric
00:16:13.640 that they got
00:16:14.240 from the public
00:16:14.960 school system.
00:16:15.780 And so,
00:16:18.700 when we look
00:16:19.680 at all this
00:16:20.140 together,
00:16:21.320 right,
00:16:22.420 and when you
00:16:23.160 and I wrote
00:16:23.560 the book
00:16:24.080 on humans,
00:16:25.980 you know,
00:16:26.440 we talked about
00:16:27.480 it because
00:16:28.000 we saw
00:16:28.820 there was
00:16:29.440 this
00:16:29.880 disassociation
00:16:31.500 with humanity
00:16:32.460 and in fact,
00:16:33.100 what we urged
00:16:33.940 was for people
00:16:35.340 to try to rebuild
00:16:36.460 as best they could
00:16:37.700 that connection
00:16:38.920 with humanity.
00:16:40.520 But what I've said
00:16:42.440 and of course
00:16:43.200 what we said
00:16:43.600 in the book
00:16:44.080 and I went on
00:16:44.760 Fox and Friends
00:16:45.300 this weekend
00:16:45.740 and said it as well
00:16:46.740 that all of this
00:16:48.860 is downstream
00:16:49.740 of economic conditions.
00:16:53.000 It is economic
00:16:53.840 conditions that drive
00:16:54.980 this.
00:16:55.240 Now,
00:16:55.320 whether that be
00:16:55.780 inflation,
00:16:56.380 whether it be
00:16:56.740 mass immigration,
00:16:57.820 it's all of it.
00:16:58.860 It's all of it
00:16:59.620 put together.
00:17:00.440 So you create
00:17:01.520 this cesspool,
00:17:02.640 then you add
00:17:03.760 in the transgenderism,
00:17:04.920 then you add
00:17:05.780 in the anti-white
00:17:06.540 hatred,
00:17:06.860 and it creates
00:17:08.100 this toxic soup
00:17:09.720 whereby,
00:17:10.300 in these young
00:17:11.220 white men
00:17:11.960 in these areas,
00:17:12.960 particularly
00:17:13.380 and in these cases
00:17:14.360 both gifted
00:17:15.200 young white men,
00:17:16.980 then turn
00:17:17.960 to extreme
00:17:19.620 behaviors
00:17:21.260 and then eventually
00:17:22.680 extreme actions
00:17:24.180 because they feel
00:17:26.400 that there is
00:17:27.360 no hope for them
00:17:28.620 in the rest of society,
00:17:30.140 in the rest of the system.
00:17:32.140 Yes,
00:17:32.840 and it's an explicitly
00:17:33.580 anti-Christian religion
00:17:34.880 when you describe it
00:17:35.880 that way,
00:17:36.920 where it's
00:17:37.600 like wearing
00:17:38.780 the Christian
00:17:39.400 skin suit
00:17:40.040 let's say,
00:17:40.920 or that shell
00:17:41.820 or that template
00:17:42.760 where you have
00:17:44.040 original sin
00:17:44.980 of being a
00:17:46.020 straight white male.
00:17:47.200 Each of those
00:17:47.640 are three intersectional
00:17:48.700 points against you.
00:17:49.700 You're way on down
00:17:50.500 the priority list
00:17:51.280 at this point.
00:17:52.700 You have grievous
00:17:53.660 sins in your nature.
00:17:55.040 And so the only way
00:17:55.780 to redeem yourself
00:17:56.780 is to undo
00:17:57.700 each of those
00:17:58.500 as much as you can.
00:17:59.820 So you have to
00:18:00.280 become not straight.
00:18:01.780 You have to
00:18:02.620 engage in other
00:18:04.260 kinds of behaviors.
00:18:05.100 And if it's not
00:18:06.720 quite possible
00:18:07.300 to not be
00:18:08.040 a white male
00:18:08.780 or at least white,
00:18:09.880 well then
00:18:10.120 what can you do?
00:18:11.200 Okay,
00:18:11.520 well you can
00:18:12.160 become a
00:18:13.160 different
00:18:13.820 whole
00:18:14.580 species.
00:18:17.980 Right,
00:18:18.580 so not only
00:18:19.040 transing your gender,
00:18:22.080 you're even going
00:18:22.700 beyond
00:18:23.320 transing your gender.
00:18:24.440 You're transing
00:18:25.100 your entire species.
00:18:26.420 But deep down,
00:18:27.400 deep down
00:18:28.020 they know
00:18:28.740 it's not true.
00:18:30.160 Deep down they know,
00:18:31.480 as they all know,
00:18:32.320 that a man
00:18:33.080 cannot become a woman.
00:18:34.680 And then the next
00:18:35.220 piece of that is
00:18:35.960 a man cannot become
00:18:37.580 an animal
00:18:38.620 and vice versa.
00:18:40.300 No matter how much
00:18:40.900 you want it to be true,
00:18:42.040 no matter how much
00:18:42.840 your pathology,
00:18:43.600 no matter how much
00:18:44.160 your psychotic break
00:18:44.880 with reality
00:18:45.520 drives you to
00:18:46.640 want it to be true,
00:18:48.280 it cannot.
00:18:48.880 And so your
00:18:49.540 forcefulness
00:18:52.520 of trying to make
00:18:53.480 that false reality
00:18:54.580 comport with actual reality
00:18:56.000 drives the psychotic
00:18:57.900 split.
00:18:58.880 Right back,
00:18:59.420 Jack Posobiec,
00:19:00.320 Joshua Kulisek.
00:19:01.900 More.
00:19:02.320 Real America's
00:19:02.940 Voice,
00:19:03.180 Human Events Daily.
00:19:10.080 Talk about
00:19:10.800 influences.
00:19:11.600 These are influences
00:19:12.560 and they're
00:19:14.260 friends of mine.
00:19:15.860 Jack Posobiec.
00:19:17.380 Where's Jack?
00:19:18.320 Jack?
00:19:19.320 He's done a great job.
00:19:24.240 All right,
00:19:24.880 Jack Posobiec,
00:19:25.300 we're back live.
00:19:25.960 Human Events Daily,
00:19:27.360 Real America's
00:19:28.180 Voice.
00:19:28.600 We're here talking
00:19:29.540 with Joshua Lisek
00:19:30.500 about these new
00:19:31.280 revelations,
00:19:31.980 about Thomas Matthew
00:19:32.980 Crooks,
00:19:34.600 the young man
00:19:35.800 who attempted
00:19:36.180 to kill
00:19:36.460 President Trump
00:19:37.180 last year
00:19:37.820 at a Butler
00:19:38.300 rally in July
00:19:39.240 2024,
00:19:40.860 and the eerie
00:19:41.540 similarities,
00:19:43.660 perhaps even
00:19:44.140 connections,
00:19:44.800 to the case
00:19:45.320 of Tyler Robinson,
00:19:46.980 the man who
00:19:47.420 allegedly killed
00:19:48.400 Charlie Kirk
00:19:49.320 in September
00:19:50.000 2025
00:19:51.140 Utah.
00:19:51.760 and both
00:19:53.800 clearly dispossessed
00:19:55.260 young white
00:19:56.600 men.
00:19:57.620 Highly intelligent,
00:19:58.860 prone to violence,
00:20:00.020 but also
00:20:00.620 disturbingly
00:20:01.680 reportedly tied
00:20:03.120 to the
00:20:05.480 sexually deviant
00:20:06.720 furry fetish.
00:20:09.420 Joshua Lisek,
00:20:10.700 co-author of
00:20:11.160 Unhumans
00:20:11.600 and Bulletproof,
00:20:12.400 the first book
00:20:12.900 about Thomas Matthew
00:20:14.240 Crooks,
00:20:14.620 is our guest.
00:20:15.720 Joshua,
00:20:16.980 when we look
00:20:20.140 at these cases,
00:20:21.440 the sexual
00:20:22.820 deviancy,
00:20:23.820 the effect
00:20:24.240 of pornography
00:20:24.900 and overuse
00:20:26.320 of pornography,
00:20:28.040 walk us
00:20:29.040 through how
00:20:30.400 that leads
00:20:31.420 potentially towards
00:20:32.940 the hypnotic
00:20:34.640 effects,
00:20:35.660 if you will.
00:20:36.120 Yes,
00:20:37.720 this is where
00:20:38.120 I take the
00:20:38.840 non-fiction book
00:20:39.940 ghostwriter and
00:20:40.800 author's cap
00:20:41.680 off and I put
00:20:42.420 on my
00:20:42.820 certified professional
00:20:44.200 hypnotist
00:20:44.900 hat on.
00:20:46.200 I have some
00:20:46.600 training and
00:20:47.120 background in
00:20:47.840 working on that.
00:20:49.220 And what you
00:20:49.640 learn in the
00:20:50.420 hypnosis profession
00:20:51.400 is that the
00:20:53.100 subconscious mind,
00:20:55.080 also called the
00:20:55.700 unconscious mind,
00:20:57.060 doesn't necessarily
00:20:58.660 understand the
00:20:59.520 difference between
00:21:00.340 the real
00:21:01.480 and the
00:21:02.360 simulated.
00:21:03.660 So whenever
00:21:04.200 you're visualizing
00:21:05.260 something,
00:21:06.120 perhaps you are
00:21:07.420 seeing it in
00:21:08.380 your mind's
00:21:09.300 eye, so to
00:21:10.060 speak, the
00:21:11.340 brain, as it's
00:21:12.940 processing that,
00:21:14.540 equates that with
00:21:15.560 something real
00:21:16.840 that's being
00:21:17.500 really seen.
00:21:18.780 That's why
00:21:19.220 visualization hypes
00:21:20.780 up a professional
00:21:21.420 athlete before they
00:21:22.280 go out in the
00:21:22.740 game.
00:21:23.020 Their brain thinks
00:21:23.640 it's actually
00:21:24.120 happening.
00:21:25.040 And so they
00:21:25.480 physiologically,
00:21:27.820 hormonally,
00:21:28.680 biochemically,
00:21:29.800 energetically,
00:21:31.120 respond to that.
00:21:33.440 It's why, and
00:21:34.280 people don't believe
00:21:34.960 this, but yet
00:21:35.460 there's literature
00:21:36.100 on this, that
00:21:37.320 visualizing weight
00:21:39.100 lifting causes
00:21:40.440 your muscle fibers
00:21:41.660 to act and
00:21:43.200 respond as if
00:21:44.420 you've actually
00:21:45.060 lifted weights.
00:21:46.400 And that effect
00:21:47.020 we see with
00:21:48.160 other things.
00:21:49.760 So when
00:21:50.700 someone is
00:21:51.600 engaging in
00:21:52.280 use of
00:21:52.740 pornography,
00:21:54.360 what their
00:21:55.200 subconscious mind
00:21:56.580 thinks is,
00:21:57.820 oh, this
00:21:58.520 situation is
00:22:00.040 actually happening.
00:22:01.220 The subconscious
00:22:01.660 mind doesn't know
00:22:02.320 about videos.
00:22:03.360 It doesn't know
00:22:04.300 about live
00:22:04.820 streaming.
00:22:05.180 It doesn't
00:22:05.900 know about
00:22:06.680 any kind of
00:22:07.840 technology.
00:22:09.260 If it sees it,
00:22:10.820 it thinks it's
00:22:11.540 real.
00:22:12.500 And so as one
00:22:13.740 engages in,
00:22:15.320 let's say,
00:22:15.600 use of pornography
00:22:16.280 of a particular
00:22:17.360 genre,
00:22:17.980 make, or kind,
00:22:19.500 the brain and
00:22:20.420 the body of the
00:22:21.200 person thinks,
00:22:22.160 oh, because I'm
00:22:23.640 being forcibly
00:22:24.480 aroused to this
00:22:25.480 material, I must
00:22:27.320 like it.
00:22:28.000 I must respond to
00:22:28.940 it.
00:22:29.020 It must be
00:22:29.980 really happening
00:22:30.940 to me, and
00:22:32.000 I must like it.
00:22:33.540 So the brain
00:22:34.960 thinks it's
00:22:35.500 actually happening,
00:22:36.440 the subconscious
00:22:36.920 mind.
00:22:37.400 And so then it
00:22:38.160 adjusts to say,
00:22:39.800 okay, well, give
00:22:40.340 me more of that.
00:22:41.340 Give me more of
00:22:41.940 that.
00:22:42.860 That's where
00:22:43.520 pornography as
00:22:44.680 an addiction is
00:22:45.980 a little bit
00:22:46.460 different from
00:22:47.040 substance abuse,
00:22:48.460 because it's not
00:22:49.440 necessarily that you
00:22:50.760 need more and
00:22:51.380 more of the
00:22:52.020 drug of choice
00:22:53.320 in order to get
00:22:54.260 the same dopamine
00:22:55.580 or serotonin
00:22:56.940 or oxytocin
00:22:57.860 release that
00:22:58.480 you've experienced
00:22:59.100 before.
00:23:00.000 It more so is
00:23:01.000 retraining your
00:23:02.340 brain, your
00:23:03.540 sexuality, let's
00:23:04.880 say, to respond
00:23:06.520 to that particular
00:23:08.120 stimulus.
00:23:09.240 So this particular
00:23:09.900 habit, it is
00:23:11.460 forcibly arousing
00:23:12.740 oneself to this
00:23:13.880 particular depiction,
00:23:15.760 which, again, the
00:23:16.920 subconscious and
00:23:17.580 unconscious brain
00:23:18.240 thinks is really
00:23:19.760 happening in real
00:23:20.680 life.
00:23:21.340 Oh, I'm being
00:23:22.200 aroused by this,
00:23:23.080 therefore I must
00:23:23.760 have a taste for
00:23:24.460 it.
00:23:25.060 That's how
00:23:25.660 pornography works,
00:23:27.040 to create this
00:23:27.480 sort of
00:23:27.760 weird, we
00:23:29.080 would call
00:23:29.420 weird or
00:23:29.860 let's say
00:23:30.240 deviant
00:23:31.020 behaviors.
00:23:32.700 Well, and it
00:23:33.660 creates this
00:23:34.280 need also, I
00:23:35.400 suppose, the
00:23:35.900 need for like
00:23:36.580 when people are
00:23:37.880 drugged users,
00:23:38.620 they're always
00:23:38.900 searching for a
00:23:39.380 bigger high or
00:23:40.440 a recreation of
00:23:41.380 their initial
00:23:41.800 high.
00:23:42.640 So this then
00:23:43.740 on the pornography
00:23:44.660 side, they'd be
00:23:45.280 looking for more
00:23:46.000 and more extreme
00:23:46.920 or more and more
00:23:48.060 unique, different
00:23:49.480 types of content.
00:23:51.700 Now, I also
00:23:52.440 wanted to throw
00:23:52.900 on top of that,
00:23:53.860 now let's say,
00:23:54.500 for example, that
00:23:55.620 the government
00:23:56.000 tells you that
00:23:57.020 you're not
00:23:57.540 allowed to go
00:23:58.220 outside, that
00:23:59.420 your job is
00:24:00.120 closing down, that
00:24:01.320 you need to shut
00:24:02.000 down, your school
00:24:02.680 is closed down, and
00:24:04.280 you are now going
00:24:05.260 to spend your
00:24:06.120 formative years
00:24:07.140 stuck inside your
00:24:08.320 house and you're
00:24:09.180 not allowed to
00:24:09.860 leave.
00:24:10.600 And again, the
00:24:11.060 government tells you
00:24:11.880 that if you do,
00:24:13.140 there is a virus
00:24:14.040 outside that will
00:24:15.360 kill you and your
00:24:16.320 entire family.
00:24:17.720 What do you
00:24:17.960 suppose that does
00:24:18.820 to certain people
00:24:19.580 that are going
00:24:20.520 through, we talked
00:24:21.240 about the economic
00:24:21.820 conditions, where
00:24:23.160 you're going through
00:24:24.040 some of these
00:24:24.620 pornographic behaviors
00:24:25.540 and the confluence
00:24:27.320 with social media
00:24:28.100 and the internet
00:24:29.140 now add the
00:24:31.580 stress of lockdowns
00:24:33.340 and taking away
00:24:34.120 those formative
00:24:34.780 years in high
00:24:36.480 school, which both
00:24:37.380 of these individuals
00:24:38.080 would have gone
00:24:38.520 through.
00:24:40.220 Digital sexuality
00:24:41.540 became mainstreamed
00:24:43.960 during the COVID
00:24:45.460 lockdown experience,
00:24:47.560 where this sort of
00:24:49.260 behavior, rather than
00:24:50.660 being something that
00:24:51.660 is, let's say,
00:24:52.800 fringe or is uncool,
00:24:57.480 let's say, it became
00:24:59.040 normalized.
00:24:59.940 So normalized to the
00:25:00.900 point that, as we
00:25:01.980 write in the bulletproof
00:25:03.240 book here, the last
00:25:05.080 internet search of
00:25:06.280 Thomas Matthew Crook's
00:25:07.720 life was for pornography
00:25:10.260 in the minutes leading
00:25:12.360 up to the assassination
00:25:13.880 attempt and the murder
00:25:14.760 of Cori Comparatori,
00:25:16.700 of course.
00:25:17.080 So we had reported
00:25:23.440 on this link between
00:25:24.700 the sexual nature
00:25:27.700 of Crooks, as well
00:25:30.220 as his lethal and
00:25:31.420 violent actions,
00:25:32.820 Cori Comparatori,
00:25:33.920 President Trump.
00:25:35.320 And, you know, they
00:25:36.500 always call him would-be
00:25:37.240 assassin, but certainly
00:25:38.060 the murder of Cori
00:25:38.800 Comparatori as well.
00:25:40.220 We had reported on
00:25:41.040 that.
00:25:41.580 We still, to this day,
00:25:42.780 don't actually know the
00:25:43.960 specific content that he
00:25:45.840 was searching for,
00:25:46.460 though, do we?
00:25:46.860 Not yet.
00:25:49.420 Not yet.
00:25:50.080 We can put it at that.
00:25:51.880 As hopefully, as more
00:25:53.180 questions are being asked,
00:25:55.000 we will be able to find
00:25:55.820 more answers.
00:25:56.480 And that was one of the
00:25:57.260 difficulties of the book,
00:25:59.660 and we were honest about
00:26:00.500 that, is it's less a book
00:26:03.320 of answers and more so a
00:26:04.800 book of the questions
00:26:06.740 that need to be asked and
00:26:08.300 the information we have
00:26:09.600 on the context of each of
00:26:10.780 them so far.
00:26:12.280 And what readers have
00:26:13.260 shared with us, of course,
00:26:14.180 is it's more complete than
00:26:15.920 anything, any Senate or
00:26:17.240 House committee or
00:26:18.480 subcommittee has released
00:26:19.700 this book that we wrote in
00:26:21.580 just a matter of weeks
00:26:22.460 before the election?
00:26:25.500 Thomas Matthew Crooks would
00:26:26.780 have been 16 years old in
00:26:29.280 2024.
00:26:30.980 Tyler Robinson would have
00:26:31.960 been about 16 or 17.
00:26:34.020 High schoolers.
00:26:35.820 This is what happened.
00:26:36.800 This is what happened in real
00:26:37.520 life, the lockdowns, the
00:26:41.460 psychological breaks, the
00:26:43.440 downward mobility.
00:26:44.740 It created a pressure cooker
00:26:46.760 and pressure cookers
00:26:49.100 explode.
00:26:50.540 Right back.
00:26:51.120 Jack Posobiec, Joshua Lysak,
00:26:52.380 Kim and Events Daily.
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00:28:29.040 So, when we're looking
00:28:31.580 at all of this, Joshua,
00:28:33.600 I don't know if you've had
00:28:34.600 time yet to dig through
00:28:36.060 all of the leaks that came
00:28:38.080 out from Turkey Tom, the
00:28:40.420 furry fetish, the toxic
00:28:44.040 relationship between Tyler
00:28:46.080 Robinson and his trans boyfriend
00:28:50.860 Lance Twiggs.
00:28:53.280 But what we do see here,
00:28:55.140 again, that we already know,
00:28:56.700 even beyond that relationship,
00:28:58.460 we know that he had a furry
00:29:01.120 fetish.
00:29:02.020 That he was involved on a
00:29:03.220 site called Fur Affinity,
00:29:05.120 which kind of takes the
00:29:06.660 deviant art side and goes a
00:29:08.180 step further where the content
00:29:10.180 is far more pornographic and,
00:29:12.760 in some cases, associated with
00:29:14.820 video games that are
00:29:16.860 involved in it.
00:29:17.300 So, simulations that he was
00:29:19.080 playing where he could
00:29:20.780 anthropomorphize himself and
00:29:23.080 be involved in sexual acts
00:29:25.800 with other anthropomorphized
00:29:28.080 animals.
00:29:29.760 So, engaging in furry sex
00:29:31.740 simulators online.
00:29:33.040 And so, you know, I spent all
00:29:34.400 last week talking about this and
00:29:35.740 people were saying,
00:29:36.280 Sobek, why are you, you know,
00:29:37.680 why are you so focused on this?
00:29:38.880 I said, no, no, no, no.
00:29:40.580 There's something going on here.
00:29:42.280 There's something absolutely
00:29:43.700 rotten.
00:29:44.900 And when you look at the
00:29:46.240 unhumaning that they put upon
00:29:49.400 themselves, and it's so
00:29:50.520 interesting you put it that way,
00:29:51.560 Joshua, they've unhumanned
00:29:53.580 themselves to a point where
00:29:55.380 they're trying to transhuman
00:29:56.940 themselves into animals, or in
00:29:59.580 some cases, into other genders.
00:30:02.740 It's like they are, it's like
00:30:09.300 they've completely broken with
00:30:10.440 reality.
00:30:10.840 So, Joshua, walk me through some
00:30:12.540 of the similarities you see here
00:30:13.920 between, and we're not, we're
00:30:15.020 not alleging any direct
00:30:16.000 connections, but some of the
00:30:17.340 similarities you would see in
00:30:18.500 the profile of Crooks and
00:30:19.940 Robinson.
00:30:21.580 Both of them seem to be of that
00:30:23.980 same type where they otherwise
00:30:26.060 in any era would have had
00:30:27.640 fantastic economic opportunities.
00:30:29.320 And this is, this is the point of
00:30:31.080 the populist right of MAGA.
00:30:32.840 It all comes back to economics and
00:30:35.480 economic opportunities for young
00:30:37.140 people.
00:30:37.540 Without viable economic
00:30:39.420 opportunities for all, we were
00:30:42.300 going to have a bad time.
00:30:43.720 And so, what we're discussing right
00:30:45.320 now, as it is in most societies
00:30:47.600 where far left-wing ideologies take
00:30:49.800 over, it's typically downstream of a
00:30:53.180 lack of economic opportunities for the
00:30:56.320 masses to be upwardly mobile.
00:30:59.000 And that lack of that for both of
00:31:01.600 these individuals seems to be a real
00:31:04.440 similarity and, of course, a concern.
00:31:06.860 So, we want to talk about the upstream
00:31:08.700 and downstream consequences within this.
00:31:12.780 But both of them, of course, being a
00:31:14.100 certain age, both of them being right
00:31:15.780 about the same time when social
00:31:18.360 distancing resulted in what?
00:31:21.180 Anti-social behaviors.
00:31:24.500 And, of course, with this furry porn
00:31:27.260 simulator and creating video games out
00:31:30.380 of it and having these, let's say,
00:31:33.660 odd digital sexuality type of
00:31:36.140 behaviors being chronically online or
00:31:38.520 terminally online, being, let's say,
00:31:41.820 a person of Reddit, for example, which
00:31:44.380 is a forum that's known for some of
00:31:46.080 this, let's say, deviant kind of
00:31:48.280 behavior and encouraging it and
00:31:50.220 grooming it, let's say, is an
00:31:52.000 accusation we hear quite often.
00:31:54.580 The anti-socializing behaviors here
00:31:57.980 became kind of normalized to these
00:32:01.080 young minds where they live on the
00:32:03.140 internet and thinking about, fantasizing
00:32:06.200 about, let's say, illegal activities
00:32:09.140 like bestiality, obviously.
00:32:12.020 Assassinations.
00:32:13.040 Both were aware of both Tyler and
00:32:15.600 Thomas having searched and discussed
00:32:18.940 and talked and shared their views on
00:32:22.200 some of these matters.
00:32:23.640 And, of course, it's so bizarre to have
00:32:25.940 a peep at the mainstream media.
00:32:28.040 And we even to this day see headlines
00:32:29.960 like, motive unknown.
00:32:31.940 We'll just never know the motive.
00:32:34.200 And are you kidding?
00:32:35.400 Are you not paying attention to what's
00:32:36.740 going on here?
00:32:38.080 Both of them were able and capable of
00:32:40.420 shooting a firearm, which, of course,
00:32:42.780 is part and parcel of being in middle
00:32:46.440 America or lower middle class firearms, of
00:32:49.320 course, are ubiquitous in the United States.
00:32:51.620 And when we think about so many teenage
00:32:56.560 school shooters over the years, we do see some
00:32:59.880 similarities here with some obsession in
00:33:03.000 otherwise deviant behavior or an anti-social behavior.
00:33:07.620 They tend to be very, very smart.
00:33:09.960 And this is where there's real concern that
00:33:11.780 comes back to economic populism.
00:33:14.940 You have these kids who are promising and bright,
00:33:17.780 yet the opportunities aren't available to them.
00:33:20.960 Josh, I wanted to throw out that Cambridge
00:33:23.160 University did a study in 2005 highlighting a
00:33:26.560 link between bestiality, zoophilia, and
00:33:30.500 associations with violence and sex offending.
00:33:34.640 And just from their abstract, bestiality is a
00:33:38.660 subject that usually evokes strong emotional
00:33:40.440 reactions, such as abhorrence, disgust, and
00:33:42.220 ridicule.
00:33:42.940 During the past few decades, it's gained more
00:33:44.560 interest from animal protection workers and
00:33:46.460 research in the field of interpersonal violence
00:33:48.700 and sex offending.
00:33:50.180 And we already know about the research, the
00:33:51.760 documented link between animal abuse and
00:33:54.360 violence against other humans.
00:33:57.780 But what they're also talking about here is
00:33:59.940 this role of, now obviously that's an extreme
00:34:02.940 example of bestiality.
00:34:05.180 But you can't really change, you certainly can't
00:34:09.500 separate this prevalence of online furry
00:34:13.200 pornography from these same types of links.
00:34:16.260 Again, this is from Cambridge University 20 years
00:34:19.240 ago.
00:34:19.740 We're documenting the heightened propensity for
00:34:22.920 violence in people who exhibit these behaviors.
00:34:26.400 Yes, this comes back to the Unhumans template that
00:34:29.360 we've talked about in the book and in our works and
00:34:31.700 interviews and publications and whatnot.
00:34:34.300 Over the last 250 years, what left-wing organizers
00:34:38.480 and agitators, whether they're forming an actual
00:34:41.080 communist movement or they want to trigger people
00:34:44.300 to engage in far left-wing revolutionary violence,
00:34:48.540 like what we've seen in the past few weeks, months, and
00:34:51.840 years, they will, to quote Steve Saylor, they will build a
00:34:56.120 coalition of the fringes.
00:34:58.720 And whether it's 18th century France or Haiti, or it's
00:35:03.220 late 19th century, early 20th century Imperial Russia, or
00:35:07.380 it's mid-late 20th century Cambodia, or it's the 2020s on
00:35:12.520 the internet.
00:35:13.600 What is a fringe activity?
00:35:17.280 There you will find left-wing agitators.
00:35:21.160 You'll find left-wing political viewpoints.
00:35:23.140 You'll find left-wing rhetoric.
00:35:25.540 You'll find left-wing suggestions, to use a word from hypnosis,
00:35:31.540 suggesting the names of individuals that they hate oh so much.
00:35:36.180 Suggesting, wouldn't it be awful if something bad happened to them?
00:35:39.960 Wink, wink.
00:35:41.160 Suggesting.
00:35:42.100 This is typical language.
00:35:43.500 It's just now that we have the internet.
00:35:44.820 So it's ubiquitous now, this antisocial behavior in times past.
00:35:51.840 And this is how the communist revolutionary model has changed via
00:35:58.540 transportation, telecommunications, and the internet now.
00:36:02.400 We have, and we hypothesize this in the book, we have witnessed an
00:36:06.880 irregular communist revolution since the 1950s in the United States,
00:36:11.580 where it's been happening on simmer, so to speak, just below the level of
00:36:17.280 open revolutionary violence.
00:36:19.520 So institutions have been infiltrated, groups, forums, communities.
00:36:25.420 Anything that can have a left-wing agitator in it, unfortunately, does at this
00:36:31.220 point.
00:36:31.560 And it's even in many churches, as good patriotic Americans are realizing
00:36:35.800 every Sunday morning.
00:36:40.460 And it's just so much to look at, so many questions that we have to figure out.
00:36:48.540 But at the same time, I'm just going to keep bringing it back.
00:36:51.280 And I want to talk about this when we get to our next segment, but I keep
00:36:53.440 wanting to bring it back.
00:36:55.280 It all comes back to economy and immigration.
00:36:57.500 It really does.
00:36:59.140 Because when economic conditions are positive, you just don't see this type of
00:37:04.960 behavior.
00:37:05.460 And when you do, it is isolated.
00:37:07.020 It is small.
00:37:07.840 It is not prevalent.
00:37:09.280 It is economic conditions that drive this behavior.
00:37:12.080 Immigration, of course, is a downward pressure on economic conditions for
00:37:17.880 middle-class or working-class societies throughout this country.
00:37:22.020 And you can't disconnect it.
00:37:24.400 You just can't.
00:37:25.040 The deviant sexual behavior, the violent tendencies associated with that, and the
00:37:29.240 downwardly mobile white men, specifically young white men, who went through the
00:37:33.860 COVID experience, and then we're told on the other end that, what do you get?
00:37:37.300 Nothing.
00:37:38.000 There's nothing for you.
00:37:39.920 Well, guess what?
00:37:40.780 What does it drive people to do?
00:37:42.340 Apparently, some of these cases, it drove them to kill them.
00:37:46.160 Be right back.
00:37:46.640 Jack is a great guy.
00:37:56.080 He's written a fantastic book.
00:37:57.880 Everybody's talking about it.
00:37:59.080 Go get it.
00:38:00.180 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:38:04.160 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you.
00:38:07.360 Amen.
00:38:07.720 All right.
00:38:12.760 Jack, we're back live here at Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:38:17.200 We are in Washington, D.C.
00:38:19.720 We're going through these disturbing similarities, eerie similarities between Thomas Matthew Crooks'
00:38:26.140 online social media footprint, as well as Tyler Robinson's, from what we knew, the furry
00:38:32.980 overlap, the furry behavior, the fact that each of these individuals seem to be involved
00:38:39.140 in some way, in some strange way, with this behavior.
00:38:45.400 Joshua Lysak is our guest.
00:38:46.820 Joshua, you and I wrote the—and Joshua, I'm going to have to say it, man.
00:38:50.800 We wrote Unhumans and Bulletproof last year.
00:38:52.720 I think we need to start working on second editions.
00:38:55.160 What do you think?
00:38:55.680 We should at least get audiobooks and e-books out as soon as we can.
00:38:59.560 I think so.
00:39:00.520 Yes, yes.
00:39:01.120 There's so much that has occurred.
00:39:03.780 Some of the initial, let's say, critical review of Unhumans specifically was that it was extreme
00:39:09.220 and hyperbolic, and now those same people are apologizing to us and saying this content,
00:39:14.760 it turns out, was—it wasn't extreme and hyperbolic.
00:39:17.400 It was just right and prophetic.
00:39:19.280 I'm sorry.
00:39:21.420 Yeah, well, you have—Steve Bannon goes to jail the week the book came out.
00:39:26.360 Then 10 days after the book came out, Donald Trump gets shot at a political rally.
00:39:31.240 Cory Capitore gets murdered.
00:39:33.200 And then about a year, year and change after, Charlie Kirk gets assassinated at a rally in Utah.
00:39:39.960 And then they come back and they say—oh, and we also had the Luigi Mangione experience,
00:39:44.840 which happened in New York City, followed up by the election of Zora Mamdani,
00:39:51.000 who wins an election in New York City predicated on what?
00:39:53.980 Oh, that's right.
00:39:54.780 A coalition of the fringes and economic conditions.
00:39:58.040 Joshua, you know, it's almost like—it's almost like—it's almost like this is what they do.
00:40:03.360 Every single time.
00:40:07.180 And this is where, when we think about, okay, what can be done about this?
00:40:11.100 What ought to be done short, medium, long term?
00:40:13.620 This is where we will—at least I—I will part with our libertarian friends,
00:40:18.140 and I will become a nationalist.
00:40:20.280 A nationalist is somebody who believes that we are a nation, populist, of people.
00:40:25.200 The two go together.
00:40:26.360 I'm borrowing Steve Bannon's own language of nationalist populism.
00:40:29.660 We are a nation of people.
00:40:30.840 And in a paternal sense, we've got to take care of these citizens.
00:40:35.580 And letting everyone fend for themselves, so to speak, that's not going to cut it.
00:40:40.740 Because when that happens, you get antisocial behaviors, you get digital sexuality,
00:40:45.520 you get people taking pot shots from the roof at public figures,
00:40:50.240 because in their personal lives, the outlook is not so great.
00:40:56.020 How do you head that off from the start?
00:40:58.400 You head that off with maximizing of economic opportunities for our own citizenry,
00:41:04.760 our young people, in middle America, in B-tier and C-tier and below cities,
00:41:12.640 having policies of hope, putting citizens first.
00:41:16.180 A little bit of Teddy Roosevelt progressivism.
00:41:18.440 We can go back and recall that.
00:41:20.400 And that's why I appreciate that era's tariffs coming back under Donald J. Trump.
00:41:25.080 And we do need more of that.
00:41:26.600 What we don't need are more H-1Bs and immigrants first type of policy in this country.
00:41:33.100 And the irony is, left-wing and right-wing economic populism rhymes a little bit.
00:41:42.000 From the perspective on race, and generally speaking, the left is all but officially anti-white,
00:41:50.420 well, we would say to them, okay, you say, you know, those white people are so awful.
00:41:55.180 Yeah, but white people are the vast majority of the country.
00:41:57.840 Do you want the vast majority of male white people to be a personal threat to you,
00:42:03.120 that anyone could develop a fetish and pop off?
00:42:05.760 No, you do not want to live in that kind of society.
00:42:08.280 And then to the right, we want to say to the right,
00:42:11.580 do you want to live in a society where that same thing can happen?
00:42:15.840 Because that kid, despite having an IQ of whatever, basically well into the three digits,
00:42:22.560 they can't find a viable economic path for themselves to have whatever the 21st century
00:42:30.280 American dream equivalent.
00:42:31.960 For most people, it's not the white picket fence and the townhome and the two and a half kids
00:42:36.560 and the one and a half pets anymore.
00:42:38.800 It's new and it's changed.
00:42:41.100 And yet there is a dream in the heart of every American.
00:42:44.400 And if there is not a path to achieve that success,
00:42:47.140 they will achieve success on a very different path to a very different destination.
00:42:53.300 And oftentimes that destination is Utah Valley University or Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:43:00.460 Right.
00:43:01.040 And there's a lot of people who want to say, you know, that, oh, it's all just the Internet.
00:43:04.800 It's all just the Internet.
00:43:05.680 But I actually would argue back and say that it's the, yes, the Internet can present these ideas,
00:43:11.660 but there's also, ideas have virality and have an ability to transmit themselves throughout every society.
00:43:18.340 And when we wrote on humans, 1790s France, there was no Internet, there was no Discord servers,
00:43:25.680 there were no video games, but there were these ideas.
00:43:29.940 And I was about to say, by the way, that the transcendent writers perhaps could be the trans writers of their time,
00:43:39.500 if you will, Joshua.
00:43:40.560 Ha-ha!
00:43:42.440 Ha-ha!
00:43:44.600 Oh, I did it.
00:43:45.780 That's right.
00:43:46.240 Take that, Walden.
00:43:48.460 And so, sorry, Thoreau.
00:43:51.700 And so you've taken this, and the same with like Maoist China or Tsarist Russia.
00:43:58.120 There's no Internet tied here.
00:43:59.960 It's the break with reality.
00:44:02.160 Whatever fills that break is, you know, it doesn't necessarily matter as much.
00:44:08.380 And so what you need is to create the conditions for a stable society.
00:44:12.600 You keep your stable society going, or the brain rot, if through whatever vector, will come in and will penetrate.
00:44:21.280 Because if you don't provide that off-ramp for people.
00:44:24.080 And so I did, you know, sit down with Fox and Friends on Sunday morning, and this is what I talked about.
00:44:31.580 I said, guys, it's not just the GDP in the stock market.
00:44:34.140 You have to look at the economic conditions of the people.
00:44:37.320 What are the economic conditions?
00:44:39.000 What is the cost of living?
00:44:40.020 I care a lot more about the people of this country care a lot more about the turkey that's going to be on their table than they do about the turkey that's 5,000 miles away.
00:44:52.680 Joshua Leiswick.
00:44:54.140 And also the stock price of Tyson Foods, let's say.
00:44:58.840 Or Morningstar, although they're part of Tyson.
00:45:00.660 But you get the idea, right?
00:45:02.380 The sort of abstractions, well, the economic is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:45:05.420 No, we have become one nation under GDP, and we got exactly what we bargained for, unfortunately,
00:45:13.200 where the economy from the perspective of shareholders and the asset-owning elite, those became it.
00:45:21.000 The kind of economy I want is where a family can go on family vacation, whether it's on the holidays or in the summertime.
00:45:30.040 They can go to a nice restaurant, the husband, the wife, the two or three kids.
00:45:34.520 They can go to a nice restaurant, and without stress, they can pull up the menu, order as they please, and not fret over the prices of the items on the menu, much less the cost of the vacation for the family.
00:45:51.620 That is the United States.
00:45:53.220 And what this does, right?
00:45:56.280 And by the way, another country that didn't have the internet, Weimar, Germany.
00:46:00.040 And so when we look at all of the, we know what the Weimar, Germany had, a ton of sexual degeneracy.
00:46:06.740 There's no question about it.
00:46:08.020 And hyperinflation.
00:46:10.020 Economic crisis and deviancy.
00:46:13.040 Economic crisis.
00:46:14.480 Deviancy.
00:46:15.080 It goes absolutely together.
00:46:16.160 So what do we see as the way forward?
00:46:17.660 The way forward is when you have economic stability, when you have an economic path forward for the people, they're not interested in the fake stuff.
00:46:26.280 They're not interested in fake reality.
00:46:27.920 They're interested in reality itself.
00:46:30.460 And you, dear listener, whether you're in the White House or you're in the Big House or whether you're in the Capitol or wherever you're just, or if you're just out there mowing the lawn today or raking leaves, getting ready for Thanksgiving, we must create a stable society for the next generation where they will rise up and kill us all.
00:46:54.600 Joshua Lysick.
00:46:55.340 So, economy and immigration, economy and immigration, economy and immigration.
00:47:00.660 These two issues, this is the right.
00:47:03.760 This is the past, the present, and the future of the right.
00:47:05.940 These are the issues that the right can win on.
00:47:08.120 Not these time-wasting ethnic grievance, let's say, detours where there's infighting or who had who and what podcast and who said what kind of teeny bopper high school caddy games.
00:47:20.900 A complete waste of time.
00:47:22.400 What is it going to take to get the price of turkey down?
00:47:26.340 That is his priority.
00:47:26.780 Joshua Lysick, give him a follow, folks.
00:47:28.960 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
00:47:30.960 Peace.