Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Mass Deportations - Seize the Moment - The Time is NOW

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00:00:39.840 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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00:00:50.140 We have a deal with China, as you know.

00:00:52.980 By the way, he invited me to China and I invited him here.

00:00:55.560 We've both accepted.

00:00:56.840 So I'll be going there with the First Lady at a certain point.

00:01:00.580 And he'll be coming here, hopefully, with the First Lady of China.

00:01:04.720 We are also going to be restoring the names to Fort Pickett, Fort Hood, Fort Gordon, Fort Rucker,

00:01:15.080 Fort Polk, Fort A.P. Hill, and Fort Robert E. Lee.

00:01:20.320 I wanted to let the city know that I have declared a local emergency and issued a curfew for downtown Los Angeles to stop the vandalism, to stop the looting.

00:01:36.600 This is the first curfew in downtown Los Angeles since the George Floyd protests.

00:01:41.320 California's governor filed an emergency motion today to block President Trump's deployment of troops.

00:01:49.680 A federal judge out of San Francisco today has denied that request.

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00:01:58.060 Chanting, marching, blocking roads during rush hour, and sometimes facing off with crowds of police.

00:02:04.120 A massive anti-ICE protest descended on downtown Chicago tonight.

00:02:12.120 Demonstration is happening outside the Seattle Federal Building, where people are trying to stop ICE from leaving with immigrants who have been detained.

00:02:19.460 We will send them back, and we will take back our country. 1.00

00:02:35.020 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.

00:02:43.300 Today is June 11, 2025.

00:02:45.800 Anno, Domini.

00:02:46.760 Folks, let's be blunt.

00:02:50.840 We are never going to get another opportunity than the one we have right now.

00:02:56.880 There's never going to be a better opportunity than the chance we have right now on mass deportations.

00:03:03.040 Call it the stars aligning, call it whatever you want, but when you look at these insane riots which started in Los Angeles that have now spread coast to coast, it's the entire country.

00:03:11.400 We got New York, you got Atlanta, and this weekend, if you think L.A. was big, wait until you see what they're calling the No Kings riots that are going to be.

00:03:21.980 And Rachel Maddow's up there on MSNBC every night chanting these things on.

00:03:26.360 You've got the guys from Indivisible are going to come out.

00:03:29.240 Every left-wing, Soros-aligned org is pumping money into this thing.

00:03:34.660 Philadelphia apparently is the flagship.

00:03:36.500 And in Washington, D.C., where I'll be at the military parade, you've got to imagine that there's going to be some protesters that start going after the military there as well.

00:03:45.700 Now, look, this is all going to come to a head on Saturday.

00:03:50.400 But as the country watches these scenes play out, foreign flag, the flags of invaders marching across our streets, the more Trump escalates on immigration, the more popular he becomes because the backlash to the insanity in American cities is growing and becoming more and more galvanized.

00:04:12.280 Now is the time to advance.

00:04:14.280 Now is the time to institute mass deportations coast to coast.

00:04:21.140 I put it up on X a bunch of times.

00:04:22.640 I would love to see an ICE reserve force be set up much like the National Guard.

00:04:27.660 By the way, I would join for free.

00:04:30.480 I would pay you.

00:04:31.520 I'd pay my own way.

00:04:32.760 I'd pay out of pocket to be able to do this.

00:04:34.980 And I'll bet you there's tons of veterans, probably millions of veterans in this country that feel the exact same way.

00:04:42.780 Support your local ICE raids.

00:04:46.460 And you know something?

00:04:47.540 The support for these raids is getting higher and higher and higher.

00:04:51.600 This is the best chance we're ever going to have, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:55.200 And it coincides almost perfectly with the 10-year anniversary of MAGA, which takes place on Monday.

00:05:02.060 So think of it.

00:05:02.880 On Saturday, you've got the military parade.

00:05:05.360 You've got the mass riots planned across the country from Indivisible.

00:05:08.880 You've also got, on Monday, the 10-year anniversary of MAGA.

00:05:13.260 It's all coming to a head.

00:05:16.460 And President Trump is guiding us through this storm.

00:05:20.560 Folks, the storm is here.

00:05:22.320 We'll be right back.

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00:05:33.240 All right, folks, we're back here.

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00:06:48.220 We're excited to have here on Human Events Daily today,

00:06:51.360 someone who's also got an op-ed up on humanevents.com, which you can go read right now.

00:06:57.860 I've read it.

00:06:58.520 I think it's fantastic, and I think you should read it as well.

00:07:01.280 It's Congressman Dan Crenshaw of Texas, who is on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

00:07:07.100 and chairing the subcommittee on the cartel task force.

00:07:11.680 Congressman, thanks for joining us.

00:07:13.680 Hey, thanks for having me, Jack.

00:07:14.700 So walk me through what you've put together here.

00:07:19.140 So you have this new bill and then this op-ed.

00:07:21.980 By the way, thank you, of course, for having it up on humanevents.com.

00:07:25.300 Walk me through how this is going to really position the United States,

00:07:31.100 and particularly our military, and I guess a whole of government focus,

00:07:34.100 it seems like, towards actually combating the cartels that have just been allowed to

00:07:39.340 fester for so long on both sides of this border.

00:07:44.720 Yeah, look, first op-ed among many, right?

00:07:47.620 But this is the parting shot.

00:07:49.080 And the first thing I want people to understand about the fight that we're in is that,

00:07:52.380 well, we've been in the fight for quite a while.

00:07:54.460 It's only in recent years that I think Americans have woken up to it,

00:07:57.480 and it's because of the massive amount of fentanyl deaths that come from the cartels.

00:08:00.660 But make no mistake, the cartels are a narco-terrorist insurgency

00:08:05.640 that has been destroying Mexico from within for decades.

00:08:10.140 And it's gotten so strong that it's time to act.

00:08:13.860 And so what I want people to take away from this is the following.

00:08:17.740 One, you're dealing with an insurgency, a terrorist insurgency.

00:08:21.840 They use terrorist tactics.

00:08:23.000 They use terrorist tactics to instill fear in civilians and to government officials.

00:08:26.560 They, but they're also cartels and criminal organizations in some classical sense as well,

00:08:32.980 right?

00:08:33.240 They diversify their moneymaking in a whole bunch of ways.

00:08:37.580 They tap oil pipelines and sell it illegally.

00:08:40.400 They engage in a massive amount of extortion, which has increased a lot in recent years.

00:08:45.200 And of course, they sell drugs.

00:08:47.120 Luckily, we've cut off a major funding stream for them,

00:08:50.200 which has been human trafficking for the last four years under Biden.

00:08:53.100 You know, estimates are about $12 to $13 billion a year just from that,

00:08:59.420 because they charge you what's called a PISO.

00:09:01.720 It's like a head tax when you cross that river.

00:09:05.420 And so at least that money has dried up because, well,

00:09:08.000 it took Trump about five seconds to secure the border.

00:09:10.720 So that's the good news we have.

00:09:12.620 But we have more good news than that.

00:09:14.560 We actually have a willing partner.

00:09:16.200 You know, there was elections in Mexico last year.

00:09:20.580 And since October, President Scheinbaum has been in power.

00:09:24.360 Now, she is a successor of the last president and has a lot of those kind of populist, socialist

00:09:29.760 tendencies.

00:09:30.580 But on security and on who she's put in charge of going after the cartels, we're seeing a massive

00:09:36.160 difference in their willingness to cooperate with U.S. forces and actually take on this fight.

00:09:42.140 And what I want people to understand is that, again, this is a counterinsurgency strategy fight.

00:09:48.020 And I hate to break it to you, but that means 20, 30 years.

00:09:51.680 You can look at something like Plan Colombia.

00:09:53.660 So Plan Colombia, I was in high school in Colombia when President Bush announced that,

00:09:57.240 the year 2000.

00:09:58.640 Back then, everyone we knew had been kidnapped for ransom and some sorts.

00:10:02.320 If we left the city, we'd be kidnapped.

00:10:04.940 Our family car was shot up once.

00:10:06.980 There was a car bomb that went off in what was called El Nogal.

00:10:11.140 It's a popular country club that people would go to.

00:10:16.140 Places I would go to, places called like the Bogota Beer Company.

00:10:19.140 The FARC had thrown hand grenades inside.

00:10:20.900 It was a war.

00:10:21.760 There was a literal counterinsurgency.

00:10:24.680 The last couple of decades, that's changed.

00:10:26.920 I mean, there's still problems in Colombia, but it's vastly different and vastly safer than

00:10:30.900 it was before.

00:10:32.180 So if you commit to a strategy, it does work.

00:10:34.660 But you have to have a willing partner, and you've got to be willing to commit the resources.

00:10:38.260 We have a willing partner, finally.

00:10:40.140 And we have President Trump, who has said this will be a priority.

00:10:43.420 First, one of the first things he did was designate the cartels as terrorist organizations.

00:10:47.820 That has gotten everybody focused, I think, in the right direction.

00:10:52.480 And that direction needs to be a counterinsurgency strategy where we rid Mexico, our biggest trading 1.00

00:10:57.880 partner, of this narco-terrorist threat.

00:11:00.420 Well, and this is something as well where, you know, and you saw people in the MAGA movement,

00:11:07.740 and people say, okay, we don't want these wars overseas.

00:11:10.100 And people were saying there was this not a, you know, as much appetite for that as there

00:11:15.460 had been in the past.

00:11:16.360 I say, well, this isn't overseas.

00:11:17.480 This is our backyard.

00:11:18.820 Okay, this is our next door neighbor.

00:11:20.260 And it is obviously in direct, and I certainly hope that there aren't any people out there

00:11:24.720 who actually think, oh, this isn't something we should know.

00:11:27.360 This is direct effect on U.S. national interests if we have these narco-terror organizations 0.99

00:11:34.540 operating on the country that we share a border with. 0.97

00:11:38.400 It's ridiculous. 0.63

00:11:39.820 And so I think all of those arguments kind of fly out the window. 0.85

00:11:42.480 And I've said for years, I've said for absolute years, and people can go back and look, I've

00:11:47.760 said that this type of strategy is something I would wholeheartedly endorse and support because

00:11:53.180 it's what we need to be able to help Mexico, right?

00:11:57.260 It's sort of the cliche, but, you know, we do need to make Mexico great again because it

00:12:01.600 directly affects us in the United States.

00:12:03.580 In addition to, as you say, the human trafficking, the fentanyl deaths, the killing, all of this

00:12:08.660 that's going on.

00:12:09.940 This isn't good for anybody, and we see so much of this border violence, of course, spills

00:12:13.340 over into the United States as well.

00:12:16.220 And a lot of these organizations, you mentioned the Jalisco cartel, the New Generation cartel,

00:12:21.200 and so many others.

00:12:22.120 These guys are brutal.

00:12:23.000 These are absolutely brutal, the same way insurgents have been when they're faced in other parts

00:12:26.820 of the world.

00:12:28.560 Yeah, I mean, they operate as paramilitaries.

00:12:31.740 The Jalisco cartel in particular is extremely militarized.

00:12:34.440 The Sinaloa cartel is a bit more what you would think of as sort of like the godfather type cartel,

00:12:39.320 a little bit more traditional, but still violent as hell.

00:12:42.860 And across the board, what people don't understand either is cartel culture.

00:12:46.880 These people engage in effectively a death worship, like a worship of the occult.

00:12:51.900 I mean, part of their strategy in bringing in new recruits is to shoot one of them, make 0.99

00:12:58.300 the other one eat the flesh of that one. 1.00

00:13:00.220 If they refuse to, shoot that one. 1.00

00:13:01.540 Make the next one eat the flesh of that one. 1.00

00:13:03.180 That's how deranged they are. 0.91

00:13:05.340 You think ISIS is deranged?

00:13:06.580 They learned all their derangement from the cartels.

00:13:09.200 This has been going on for a couple decades.

00:13:11.520 And as you said, too, politically, this is a rather unifying strategy, right?

00:13:16.000 Like, obviously, the Republican Party, we debate constantly about, like, how we should

00:13:19.320 be using our foreign policy powers.

00:13:22.100 But this is both bipartisan and unifying amongst the parties.

00:13:26.560 You know, very few.

00:13:27.200 Obviously, people have concerns.

00:13:28.220 Well, how can you partner with a corrupt government in Mexico?

00:13:32.340 And my answer to that is, well, you're never going to get the perfect situation.

00:13:37.240 So what's your answer?

00:13:37.860 Do nothing?

00:13:38.680 That can't be your answer.

00:13:40.320 We've partnered with much worse, right?

00:13:42.260 Like, just try dealing with Iraqis and Afghanis. 1.00

00:13:45.140 Trust me, this is.

00:13:46.280 And also, if you want to reduce the corruption, you actually have to be there on the ground.

00:13:51.460 American influence does have an effect.

00:13:54.300 You know, the counterinsurgency doctrine gets a bad name because people think we failed at

00:13:58.660 doing it.

00:13:59.520 It's not really true.

00:14:00.300 It worked pretty well.

00:14:01.440 What we failed at was realizing that it's a 20-year strategy.

00:14:05.140 It takes a long time.

00:14:06.740 And only in places like Colombia have we actually bothered to continue to commit the resources.

00:14:11.800 And guess what?

00:14:12.680 It actually works.

00:14:13.900 So when it's your biggest trading partner and your neighbor and your backyard and, like,

00:14:19.200 we are so fused together, as you mentioned, as two countries, it's just not a threat that

00:14:26.060 you can ignore.

00:14:26.900 We cannot have a failed state on our border.

00:14:29.560 It just cannot happen.

00:14:31.260 And exactly, make Mexico great again.

00:14:32.900 Like, I tell Mexicans this all the time because they're like, oh, you want to invade us? 1.00

00:14:36.320 No, we don't.

00:14:37.240 We want you to be prosperous and safe.

00:14:39.860 And we want you to thrive.

00:14:41.780 And guess what?

00:14:43.560 You might need some of our AC-130 gunships in order to do that.

00:14:46.380 So how about we make this happen?

00:14:48.520 Why not?

00:14:49.200 Why not work with it together?

00:14:50.460 We're on with Congressman Dan Crenshaw.

00:14:52.640 He's walking through this new strategy, working with the Mexican government.

00:14:58.200 He's got the new bill out.

00:14:59.420 The post is up.

00:15:00.460 The op-ed is up at humanevents.com.

00:15:03.440 Jack Posobiec.

00:15:04.280 We're going to take a quick break.

00:15:05.980 We'll be right back here.

00:15:07.260 Human Events Daily on Real America's Voice and the Salem Radio Network.

00:15:11.780 Today, you know, they talk about influences.

00:15:17.440 These are influences.

00:15:19.380 And they're friends of mine.

00:15:21.700 Jack Posobiec.

00:15:23.200 Where's Jack?

00:15:24.140 Jack.

00:15:25.140 He's done a great job.

00:15:27.560 All right, folks.

00:15:28.600 We're back here.

00:15:29.500 Jack Posobiec.

00:15:30.820 Human Events Daily.

00:15:31.940 Real America's Voice.

00:15:32.900 Also live coast to coast with our three of the Charlie Kirk audience on the Salem Radio Network.

00:15:38.160 We're on with Congressman Crenshaw.

00:15:40.220 Congressman, while we have you on here for a few more moments, I got to get your response.

00:15:45.640 The L.A. riots, this discussion about perhaps use of the Riot Act, obviously the Insurrection Act, all of these various potential uses of the military.

00:15:56.800 Where do you come down on this?

00:15:58.420 President Trump is doing exactly what he has to do, which is restore law and order.

00:16:02.020 This is a key marker of his campaign theme.

00:16:04.780 And I think anyone watching, including Democrat strategists, are like, this is playing exactly into why Donald Trump got elected.

00:16:10.700 Because he said he would take care of this kind of thing.

00:16:12.580 And that's exactly what he's doing.

00:16:14.000 The Governor Newsom is putting out these nonsensical statements that, hey, we got it under control.

00:16:21.280 This is inflammatory.

00:16:22.120 This is in the National Guard.

00:16:23.040 And there's been like 30, 40 LAPD officers injured, over $3 million in damage.

00:16:29.160 You don't have it under control.

00:16:30.460 And it's not fair to the LAPD to just say, ah, you know what?

00:16:32.920 You guys just are going to have to deal with that.

00:16:34.820 So, of course, we should be sending in the National Guard and making a statement about we will not stand for this.

00:16:39.340 One thing we notice as we look at this, though, is, okay, so you get arrested for burning a police car.

00:16:46.560 And let's say you're not a U.S. citizen, but you're here legally.

00:16:50.040 Let's say you're a permanent resident or DACA recipient.

00:16:54.740 Well, there's a number of things in law that allow for your legal status to be revoked.

00:17:03.440 But among those is not necessarily engaging in a riot, harming a police officer, burning a cop car during a state of national emergency.

00:17:12.380 So I'm introducing or I just introduced the Riot Act with a bunch of co-sponsors, which fixes that loophole.

00:17:18.280 We should be able to look because everybody's imagining that that person running around, burning things and carrying the Mexican flag. 0.76

00:17:23.960 I don't know if that person's illegal or legal or what they are, but if they are here on some kind of legal status but not a U.S. citizen, that should be factored in.

00:17:33.620 The fact that they're rioting and doing what they're doing should be factored in to whether or not they get to keep their status here legally or not.

00:17:41.540 Wait, wait, wait, Congressman, I just want to make sure that we're hearing you clearly here.

00:17:46.320 So you're saying that as it is currently written in law, these types of activities could cause someone could not cause someone or not meet the threshold for losing their ability to stay legally in the United States.

00:18:00.580 Is that what you're saying?

00:18:02.220 Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:18:03.500 I mean, they go to jail like they go to jail just like anybody else.

00:18:06.040 They, you know, they'd serve time.

00:18:07.000 But as far as deportation, as far as losing your legal status, that wouldn't that wouldn't be part of the equation because it's just it's not one of the list of things where were you which would revoke your status, for instance.

00:18:20.940 And so we're simply adding this into it, given given the times we're in.

00:18:24.960 Well, and that's a great point there, because so much of our immigration legal system is just antiquated.

00:18:32.160 It's not actually written to be met with the situation at hand today.

00:18:37.280 It's written for, you know, the Ellis Island era or, you know, various other eras of immigration that we've had in the past.

00:18:45.160 And none of the Irish immigration, et cetera.

00:18:47.180 None of this was ever written for this mass, this mass open borders or a mass situation where we have this just these invaders that have come across some 10 million plus in just four years.

00:19:01.940 And we have we're dealing with this legislative framework.

00:19:05.160 This is totally inadequate to meet the moment.

00:19:07.300 Yeah, no, the tools just aren't there.

00:19:09.340 And and so, look, this is a bill that just that that fixes just one of those many, many loopholes.

00:19:16.660 And it doesn't for any detractors, not that they're not on this show, but but but but critics would say, oh, well, you're trying to stifle free speech.

00:19:24.260 People who protest would not have their their status revoked.

00:19:26.920 No, it's very specific. 0.99

00:19:28.500 You're a criminal.

00:19:29.260 You've already committed a criminal act that you would go to jail for anyway. 0.95

00:19:32.640 We're just saying that if you're going to go to jail for that criminal act, then it should also have an impact on your on your immigration status.

00:19:37.720 I don't think that's a crazy thing to do.

00:19:39.500 Right. If you're here on a student visa or a work visa or LPR, green card, whatever it is.

00:19:45.480 OK, you are not given that as a means to be able to participate in riots against law enforcement or military or anyone else that you might be encountering out there.

00:19:56.800 That's that's not what you're allowed to do.

00:19:58.240 That is a privilege and it should be revoked immediately.

00:20:01.580 So I find it so unbelievable.

00:20:03.780 That actually was a loophole.

00:20:05.720 And I commend you, by the way, not just for the the cartel bill that you put forward, but also for this congressman.

00:20:11.680 I know you've got to run.

00:20:12.980 We are just about out of time.

00:20:14.220 Where could people go to keep up with what you're doing and on the cartel subcommittee as well as everything you're putting out?

00:20:20.140 You put a lot of stuff on my Instagram at Dan Crenshaw TX.

00:20:24.120 That's that's the best place to follow.

00:20:25.660 So that's probably where we post the most substantive content and content on what the Mexicans are doing against the cartels, too.

00:20:33.000 Again, there's a lot of good news and things to look forward to here.

00:20:35.800 The Mexicans are going out basically every day going after cartels with our help.

00:20:40.100 There's a lot more we can do.

00:20:41.640 We post a lot of those stories that you won't find anywhere else there as well.

00:20:45.640 And we'll keep you updated on on our progress is that there's a lot to do on this subject.

00:20:49.560 But I'm excited about the fact that we finally have all the right pieces in place to maybe make some progress and actually fight this insurgency.

00:20:57.580 Let's get it done, folks.

00:20:58.720 Congressman Dan Crenshaw here.

00:21:00.540 Human Events Daily.

00:21:01.280 Right back.

00:21:01.680 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:21:09.420 Where is Jack?

00:21:11.720 Where is he?

00:21:13.000 Jack, I want to see you.

00:21:16.640 Great job, Jack.

00:21:18.080 Thank you.

00:21:18.880 What a job you do.

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00:23:24.660 Folks, I just want to say this again on the mass deportations.

00:23:31.100 We're never going to get a better opportunity than this.

00:23:33.680 We're not.

00:23:34.760 And if you go look at the swing right now, and the Post Millennial has a story up,

00:23:40.060 there are analysts, even on CNN, they're crashing out because they're seeing a 40-point shift,

00:23:45.560 even among actual immigrants, to Republicans, on the issue of border security and ICE enforcement.

00:23:54.500 Happen to know an immigrant very well.

00:23:57.020 Her name is Tanya Tay.

00:23:57.840 I talk to her every single day about this.

00:23:59.500 And she, Tanya Tay Posobiec, will tell you absolutely, as someone who came here the right way,

00:24:06.100 that anyone who comes to this country with the hope of changing it, of altering it,

00:24:10.000 and demanding things from this country, especially when you broke in, they need to go.

00:24:16.960 They all need to go.

00:24:19.420 So, again, these 40-point shifts, these massive shifts in the polls and public opinion,

00:24:23.980 never going to happen again.

00:24:25.620 The mass deportations have to happen right now.

00:24:28.320 We have to escalate.

00:24:29.480 We have to advance.

00:24:30.600 I'm talking ICE reserve units.

00:24:32.380 I'm talking whatever you need.

00:24:33.680 Whatever budget they need, it all needs to go out.

00:24:37.560 Now, at the same time, I should say, simultaneous to all this, we're seeing the rise of AI.

00:24:46.340 And we are seeing this having an effect, a massive effect, across certainly the information space.

00:24:52.880 And that's what we do here on a daily basis.

00:24:55.120 Because on human events, we're focused on your daily events of humanity.

00:25:00.680 And, in fact, I wrote an entire book about unhumanity last year.

00:25:04.400 And so this is kind of indelibly linked to everything that we do.

00:25:08.380 I don't know if anybody ever caught the tie-in between unhumans and human events.

00:25:13.700 But, you know, we'll see.

00:25:14.740 A little bit of co-branding that we do there.

00:25:16.960 But, folks, I wanted to bring in, so to discuss the latest news on AI, it's Larry Ward.

00:25:22.140 He's the president of Market Rhythm and a human events columnist.

00:25:26.400 He's going to have a piece that's either up now or it's going up very soon.

00:25:31.220 Larry, how are you?

00:25:33.120 Hey, thanks for having me.

00:25:34.040 Well, Larry, there's this huge news that just dropped.

00:25:38.100 So you and I within – oh, it is up, by the way.

00:25:41.640 The piece is up.

00:25:42.600 AI is not a technology.

00:25:44.060 It is a synthetic entity.

00:25:45.780 I love what you have here, this discussion about the melding between humanity, transhumanity,

00:25:51.540 transhumanism, in a sense.

00:25:53.160 But also the huge news that just dropped is that one of the biggest AI companies out there mid-journey is being sued by Disney.

00:26:02.540 And I expect more are going to get in on this lawsuit over copyright infringement.

00:26:06.740 And I'm sitting here thinking, wait a minute, that's exactly what you and I were talking about the very last time I had you on the show a couple of days ago.

00:26:13.720 Absolutely.

00:26:14.720 Absolutely.

00:26:15.720 Look, I can't believe I'm going to do this, but I'm actually going to defend Disney's actions on national television.

00:26:21.360 You know, the Disney attorney said piracy is piracy, and it's right.

00:26:26.040 AI companies have basically plundered copyrighted material from publications, conservative and liberal publications, from movies, you know, from news programs.

00:26:39.060 You know, they have basically plundered all of our intellectual property.

00:26:43.140 And we're going to have to have these discussions and say, not just in the courts, because, yeah, we can fight it out in the courts, but there's a lot more than that.

00:26:51.480 It's a shift in terms of what it means, you know, to have intellectual property, to be able to own what you created.

00:26:59.780 And the way the AI companies are going, they obviously don't want you to own anything.

00:27:06.000 Remember what Klaus Schwab said, you'll own nothing and like it.

00:27:09.720 Well, and that sort of comes down to so and for folks who didn't catch the previous piece that you put up, what you were talking about was this idea that what these AI companies are doing is that they were going out and sucking up a lot of copyrighted content and essentially using it to program these large language models.

00:27:30.140 So program Grok, to train Grok, to train MidJourney, to train ChatGPT, and they're plugging in books, news articles, movies, podcasts, whatever, but not actually going and getting a license from any of the owners of this.

00:27:46.020 And that is, and so Disney is coming in, and let's just be frank, we know that Disney has always, always been very, and anyone in the business knows that Disney is the strongest one when it comes to defending the IP.

00:27:58.640 God, you know, God forbid you mess around with Mickey Mouse or, you know, those others out there, even though I believe the first iteration, Steamboat Mickey, is now free domain.

00:28:11.580 It's in public domain because it hit the 100-year threshold.

00:28:16.220 But no, Disney is extremely limited to just, you know, you drop something about the Avengers or one of their Marvel properties, Spider-Man now, I guess they have, whatever else.

00:28:24.660 They're coming after you. They're absolutely coming after you.

00:28:27.760 And so they've got the pockets to actually fight some of these big companies. Is that the idea here?

00:28:34.460 Absolutely. And look, they have the right to. It's their property. They paid a lot of money for Marvel.

00:28:39.220 They've invested years into their intellectual property.

00:28:43.260 Whether you like Disney as a company, which I particularly don't, but at the same time, Disney is, you know, has a right to its intellectual property.

00:28:51.220 And, you know, what's happened is these AI companies, you know, basically said, hey, we're going to steal everything we can to train our models and we'll get back to the intellectual property later.

00:29:02.920 But they haven't really moved fast enough for these, to create these kind of license deals.

00:29:08.660 And Disney is within its rights and it's within its power to sue.

00:29:14.880 And now what we talked about last time was, you know, they're paying these liberal publications, like massive deals to the New York Times, to the Washington Post, to Axios and Politico.

00:29:27.360 And, you know, they need to make the same market deals with conservative publications, like Postmillennial Human Events and the Washington Examiner and Uncovered DC.

00:29:38.340 All of these publications that they are also taking intellectual property from, they need to pay for their content, not only for licensing purposes, but also to balance the scale.

00:29:50.200 Because, you know, we all know that AI has a massive liberal bias problem.

00:29:54.460 And that's what it comes down to.

00:29:57.860 So tell me a little bit more about your new piece regarding AI.

00:30:03.240 I'm being told, by the way, that Rust Vote is going to be holding a gaggle in a few minutes.

00:30:06.880 So we're going to see if we can pull that up.

00:30:08.580 But before that time, can you tell us a little bit more about your new piece about the way we should be thinking about AI as an entity more than a technology?

00:30:18.220 Right.

00:30:18.780 Look, AI is not a technology.

00:30:20.820 We have designed AI in a way that it is really a synthetic entity.

00:30:27.160 And what I mean by that is a technology is a tool that is wielded by humans, like a hammer, like a computer, right?

00:30:34.280 Like you put an input, you click a button, you get an output.

00:30:38.320 AI is different.

00:30:39.600 AI is perfectly capable of being autonomous, to write code on its own, to create, you know, reports on it.

00:30:46.740 You're able to use AI in many, many autonomous fashions.

00:30:51.340 And when it's becoming autonomous and more and more autonomous, it's turning into a synthetic entity.

00:30:57.300 And entities are like corporations.

00:30:59.720 They're like governments.

00:31:01.040 They're like humans, right?

00:31:02.540 An entity requires governance.

00:31:05.220 An entity requires morality.

00:31:07.680 Entities without morality crash and burn.

00:31:11.940 Entities without the principles that are installed in the foundation of our nation, the biblical principles that are founded, is what made the United States the best country in the world.

00:31:23.420 And we need to instill biblical principles into the AI framework, into the core of the AI programming, and to make sure that it always protects human dignity.

00:31:35.500 But we do have to treat it as an entity.

00:31:37.400 And we're running out of time because the longer it takes for us to make these decisions, like thou shall not steal, as a great example with what's going on with content in Disney,

00:31:46.660 if the longer it takes us to do it, the more powerful AI is going to become, and the harder it's going to be to constrain.

00:31:55.820 And that's what it all comes down to.

00:31:58.040 And so we, and by the way, I'm being told that the Rust vote gaggle is imminent, but also that it hasn't begun yet.

00:32:05.260 So we can chat for a little longer, Larry.

00:32:07.600 The idea being, though, that as, look, AI is going to be here to stay.

00:32:11.100 And it's here, it's not going away, just like any new technology.

00:32:14.700 Internet 1.0, 2.0, of course, with the social media.

00:32:18.700 And AI is really, in a sense, Internet 3.0 or Web 3.0.

00:32:22.680 And these new technologies never leave.

00:32:24.960 The question is, are we going to utilize them properly as tools, or are these tools going to become more powerful than us directly and have this power over us?

00:32:36.920 And we've already seen this, by the way, doctors going to chat GPT and Grok to look up things and finding absolute failures.

00:32:44.880 Or I saw one the other day of someone talking about a car.

00:32:48.780 They were doing a DIY problem, and they were trying to work on their car.

00:32:53.520 And it just gave them these options that were completely beyond anything that were useful.

00:33:00.620 And the guy's car was, like, completely messed up, transmission blown, all the rest of it.

00:33:05.100 And so while these issues do exist, we have to understand this is the worst AI is ever going to be.

00:33:12.500 It's only going to get better and more powerful from here.

00:33:15.980 So we're coming up on a quick break.

00:33:17.860 We've got Larry Ward on.

00:33:20.300 He is the president of Market Rhythm.

00:33:24.560 And he's got two new columns up on humanevents.com that you guys really need to read.

00:33:30.200 One about all about the copyright issues regarding AI and some of the big, big money that's going to bat.

00:33:37.560 And Larry called it, just absolutely called it, Disney now suing some of the biggest AI companies out there regarding copyright over Disney IP.

00:33:47.020 We're talking Walt Disney World.

00:33:49.100 We're talking Marvel.

00:33:49.960 We're talking Star Wars, all that stuff.

00:33:52.780 They are going to fight to protect their IP.

00:33:55.040 So we're going to see how that translates down the line.

00:33:58.320 Stay tuned.

00:33:58.960 Quick break.

00:33:59.520 Right back.

00:34:00.140 Jack is a great guy.

00:34:07.160 He's written a fantastic book.

00:34:08.820 Everybody's talking about it.

00:34:10.020 Go get it.

00:34:11.200 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:34:15.120 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

00:34:18.220 Amen.

00:34:18.660 Amen.

00:34:19.960 We're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

00:34:49.940 All right, Jack, we're back here.

00:34:55.220 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, and the Salem Radio Network with Hour 3 on the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:35:01.560 We're on with Larry Ward.

00:35:04.180 And we are talking all about these issues with AI, also being told that Russ Vogt, the OMB director, may be coming out soon for a gaggle over at the White House.

00:35:14.880 If that happens, we will cut to that momentarily.

00:35:18.180 But in the meantime, Larry, you've got these two huge pieces up all about AI.

00:35:30.360 And they're seeing people with their investir why we're on Google Rivera, please, and they're disputed.

00:35:41.680 that google might also be facing a lawsuit as well or potentially uh steering into some choppy water

00:35:48.640 with something they're doing isn't that right well absolutely if you go to google search right now

00:35:53.440 and you're typing in something you're you're pulling up google summary of the content that

00:35:58.480 you're looking for and where are they getting that content from they're getting it from

00:36:02.400 the content creators who have intellectual property rights to it and what it's doing is

00:36:07.120 is creating a zero click economy for these publishers which means that everything is

00:36:12.240 going to be answered for you in these chat windows and you won't need to go to the source and obviously

00:36:17.360 we know that publishers and content creators earn money on their content based on advertising or

00:36:24.560 selling subscriptions or selling uh or or selling books and and and uh and videos and such like that

00:36:32.160 so what they're doing is taking all of that content they're using it for their own benefit now of

00:36:36.960 course there's ads on google so google's making money on that content but the uh but the actual

00:36:43.200 content creators are getting are getting uh pulled out of it and and we have to um you know think this

00:36:49.440 through you know we can't survive if the content creators uh you know are are going to be starved

00:36:56.080 we need good content we need to pay for it well and so what google is doing now is rather than link to

00:37:03.920 and and everyone knows you know google started as a search engine the idea and going back that was

00:37:08.880 you know really kind of i guess i would say a bridge between web 1.0 web 2.0 was the search

00:37:14.720 engine because of course websites were going back into like deep internet lore right you know people

00:37:20.240 had websites but you didn't know what website was out there because there was no way to know what you

00:37:26.000 didn't know and so the idea of the search engine came up well okay well i can search this the website and

00:37:31.520 there were there were a ton of these there was meta crawler there was yahoo uh and then eventually

00:37:36.640 um google came up and just just beat them all and they still would go to link to a site so you would

00:37:45.680 go to that site and then you could click and you would get their content you might get a little

00:37:49.040 you know two sentence blurb uh in in the middle but now what they're doing is they're going to the

00:37:55.680 site summarizing it for you and then tracking back so of course what does that what does that do well

00:38:00.880 that keeps you on google longer so you're being fed that google's content more and more and that's

00:38:06.320 what they that's of course what google wants right oh absolutely because they don't have to share their

00:38:11.840 revenue um you know they keep all the revenue on and look google has its own antitrust issues

00:38:17.840 and this isn't going to help that um not even not even a little bit so you know what what has to

00:38:23.120 happen is they've got to reject those links in you know perplexity is actually doing a better job

00:38:28.800 with this because they they'll summarize this stuff but they'll tell you exactly where they

00:38:32.480 got their content and give you the links so you can go to to those uh pages on their own but all of

00:38:38.160 these ai platforms must license the content from the content creator uh before it can use it and and

00:38:44.320 they should it's the right thing to do that's exactly right larry where can people go to access your

00:38:51.280 new op-ed and get more info humanevents.com it's it's uh it's a really important op-ed it kind of

00:38:58.560 sets the framework to what ai is really what it is not it's not just a technology it's a synthetic

00:39:05.040 entity and we actually have to look at it because entities are dangerous when they're when they're

00:39:09.760 uncontrolled no i think that's exactly right thank you so much live for being on folks what we're what

00:39:15.440 we're seeing here okay this is this is the confluence of so many different threats right

00:39:20.560 now you've got the rise of ai which needs to be codified and needs to be met head-on absolutely

00:39:27.520 head-on and i use ai i use it as a tool okay i use it a ton but at the same time we have to be careful

00:39:33.680 with where it's going that's number one number two the protests la the mass migration what do you

00:39:42.160 think is going to happen in this country when all of the jobs get taken by ai and we've got these 1.00

00:39:49.760 millions and millions of low-skill laborers here who don't have work you think the protests this week

00:39:58.800 are bad you think the protests on saturday are going to be bad why do you think they're burning waymos

00:40:05.200 because the waymo self-driving taxi is a direct competitor to the illegals and don't even try to

00:40:11.920 tell me that the illegals aren't driving uber because we all know they are get it together 1.00

00:40:18.160 this is a fight that's brewing and it comes to a head saturday ladies and gentlemen as always you

00:40:22.320 have my permission to lay ashore

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 11, 2025

Mass Deportations - Seize the Moment - The Time is NOW

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