MEMORIAL DAY SPECIAL： HOW TRUMP WILL FIX OUR MILITARY
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Our fallen heroes have not only written our history, they ve shaped our destiny, they saved the lives of the men and women with whom they served, they cared for their families more than anything in the world, they love their families, they inspired their communities, uplifted their country, and provided the best example of courage, virtue and valor the world will ever know. They fought and bled and died so that America would forever remain safe and strong and free.
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a commentator international social media sensation and former navy intelligence veteran this is human
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events with your host jack persobiec deliver us from evil our fallen heroes have not only written
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our history they've shaped our destiny they saved the lives of the men and women with whom they
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served they cared for their families more than anything in the world they love their families
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they inspired their communities uplifted their country and provided the best example of courage
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virtue and valor the world will ever know they fought and bled and died so that america would
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forever remain safe and strong and free that is why we always will remember because here
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on this soil on these grounds beneath those fields lies the true source of american greatness
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of american glory and of american freedom as long as we are blessed with patriots such as these
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we shall forever remain one people one family and one nation under god
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ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard for today's special memorial day edition of human
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human events daily today is may 27th 2024 anno domini we live in a world right now where it seems as
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though things are spiraling out of control and you go back 20 years ago or almost 25 years ago now
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to the events of 9 11 and in many ways and i i say this as a you know gen y
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i remember the 90s as a time of the outpouring of great celebrations and fun and people were making
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money great economy everything seemed booming the future of humanity and the future of america seemed
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to be written literally in the stars we had spaceships and somewhere along the line 9 11 happens and that
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bubble just bursts and you get to a situation where suddenly troops are deploying the u.s military is
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getting involved around the world wars are kicking off and that dream that dream of going to the stars that
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dream of colonizing the galaxy was just lost was completely lost and instead
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we were told that we have to focus on the military we have to focus on the here and now we have to focus on
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these issues the issues of world politics geopolitics and we didn't realize
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the instability that started that day would continue and continue escalate and escalate and
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somewhere along the line that fighting force on september 11 2001
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and the thousands of americans that have died since who we remember today
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who joined the thousands of americans who died in all of our prior wars
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somewhere along the way we decided to turn our military into a social incubator for trans ideas
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and woke ideas and we started to use the military as the world police
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we're the world police in the middle east we're the world police in asia we're the world police in
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eurasia is this what's best for our force no and that's why along the way you've seen america's best
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and brightest and our not just our military age males but our fighting able males fighting capable
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males the type of people that would go on to make excellent soldiers and marines and seals and rangers
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they stopped joining said i don't want to be associated with that outfit that up it's a joke
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that's where you go to go die in a sandbox somewhere in some country you can't even pronounce
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in a place that no one in your family has ever even heard of
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and so the u.s military has degraded and the status of the force is not where it should be
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could you imagine if 9 11 happened today the fighting force we have would not be able to
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respond and i'm not saying that america's response was good i'm saying we wouldn't even be able to
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attempt any of those things no china russia please it's a joke so today we are going to discuss
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this very situation and the way forward for president trump when he wins this november
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how to fix the u.s military are going to be joined by general michael flynn and senate colonel
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tony shaper stay tuned human events daily world day
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every single day of the week today you know they talk about influences these are influences and uh
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they're friends of mine jack so like where's jack jack he's got a great job
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jack so we're back here human events daily our memorial day special very honored to have once
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again on the program general michael t flynn general flynn by the way i know the last time
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i had you on i said i would i promised you i'd watch the documentary i have since seen it
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congratulations that's fantastic obviously a very emotional piece but um i i can see why it's having
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the success that it has tell me um what what's it like actually having a story out there like that
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well it's a very intimate look it is a remarkable uh story of survival actually uh for my family and i
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so it's it's great it's very humbling the feedback and the response we've been getting as i have uh
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you know as i recently traveled around the country so um i'm honored my family and i uh feel blessed
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that we have the strength of our family that we do have and uh and i do believe that if people see this
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film they'll see something uh in it of themselves because the assault on me and my family was really
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an assault on all of america and many americans are going through it right now so um i i do hope that
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more and more people get out there to see it uh and yeah and i think that they're going to have the
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same response that many uh that frankly thousands of americans have already had well general that actually
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dovetails into today's theme because as we're talking about memorial day talking about the day
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for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice the question that comes to my mind is that what's
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happened to these institutions that have been entrusted with the lives of these soldiers we always
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say you know there's that line when you sign up and join um you know you're writing a blank check
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that's payable up to and including your entire life i'm sure you've heard that a million times
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and so the question is what's gone wrong with the institutions that we've entrusted with that sacred
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right yeah so one of the key words that you just used or a portion of one of the words you just used
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is trust and i think right now we and i know this i know this in spades because i've been around this
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country many times in the last number of years and people come up to me all the time moms dads a lot of
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times moms and young men and young women who are contemplating serving in the in the military
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there there is a lack of trust and i think that probably the the one of the greatest national
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security uh threats that we can face in this country is when there is a breakdown of trust between
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those who we need to serve in our armed forces and and the and the and the moms and dads principally
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where we have to get these young men and young women from right this trust between the citizenry
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of our country and and those that are serving in our military and i want our those those that listen
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to this the the leadership of our military that today's leadership and i'm not talking about the
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the civilian of you know political appointed people i'm talking about the uniform
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military at the senior levels that the chairmen's the chiefs of staff the various people that are
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in the you know running our services in uniform they need to understand that that type of of of
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trait that we we hold so dear is trust trust is essential on the battlefield to be able to have an
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effective unit trust is essential you know when we're making critical decisions about the types of
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forces that we're going to deploy but the most important element is the element of trust that uh that we
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must have in uh you know between the those that we are trying to get in to come into our military
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and those where we're taking them from right the the families of america who are going to give up their
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sons and daughters where they sign on that dotted line and you know to potentially give their lives for
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this nation and the cause of freedom right that that idea of trust is such an important thing
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and sadly sadly that it looks like the united states navy and the united states army are going
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to both miss their recruiting goals as we go into the latter part of this uh this this year this
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military year through the end of september you know this that's the way the government tracks their year
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so by end of september it looks like the navy's not going to make it looks like the army's not going
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to make it the downstream effect of that lack of recruiting actually hurts the training it hurts the
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readiness it hurts the the preparation of future forces right the downstream effect of this lack
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of trust this inability to be able to build up the kind of strength the what we call the foxhole
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strength of our armed forces it really does impact on our ability to be able to to withstand some of
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the potential foes that we are going to face that we are facing now around the world and it also doesn't
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allow us to be this very innovative force that we need to be where we can where we can apply different
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ideas in different in you know ingenious ways that we actually conduct operations but you can only
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conduct those operations those types of major regional conflicts or these limited uh regional uh
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engagements that we find ourselves involved in in places like central america or the caribbean or places
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like east africa middle east central asia uh possibly in in east asia in a place like taiwan straits or
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korea i mean all of these these geographic places are are safe only when the united states military is
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strong and ready and prepared and and is at a fighting strength that is sustainable over a long period of time
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and a single factor that i look for in our ability to be able to do all these things is trust that that
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bond between those in the military and those we need to come in the military and the moms and dads
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principally the moms and dads who are still you know producing these these brave young well uh american
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patriots right so that's really to me that's that's something that i i i i i try to when i talk to
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people uh jack i talk to moms and dads i talk to young people because it kills me to not be able
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to say you know when they come to me and say hey i'm thinking about joining the navy or the army right
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it kills me to say i don't know you know i don't do that what i do is i ask them what is it that they're
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expecting what is it that they want to do and i do tell them i do tell them that you know hopefully
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on the horizon on the near term horizon coming this november we can re-establish this bond we can
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re-establish the right type of leadership that we need because frankly i do think that our
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leadership at the highest levels in our military uniform and certainly the political appointees
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are failing our country right now they're failing the men and women in uniform
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and general one of the things that i've been hearing a lot lately too is and this is something i've never
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heard in the history of the united states military families are starting to tell their sons and
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daughters to not join talk to me about the importance of military families because this
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really is the backbone of our fighting forces yeah so and and so sometimes we call that legacy the
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legacy of a family legacy service service and you know i mean and i'll go back i mean both my
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grandfather served in world war one uh one of my grandfathers served in world war one and world war
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two my father served in world war two and korea i had a brother that served during vietnam uh you know
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i have a son that's serving i have a brother who's still serving um i mean so so you know the flynn
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family is a family of legacy of service to country in uniform and and what is happening is people that
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served like in the korean or the certainly the vietnam war who have children that are coming of age
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even the people that served in the early days of the uh the war on terror you know their their children
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are now coming of age to serve and they're starting to say i don't you know i don't i'm not sure i want
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you to serve in the military because of what we are seeing coming out of the you know the decisions
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that we're seeing coming out of our military leadership where they're force feeding things
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like sorry but critical race theory social emotional learning this whole notion of diversity equity
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and inclusivity you know and jack you know this from serving on on uh ships at sea there's no safe
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spaces on a ship when a ship in fact i've been on i've served on ships before in my time in joint
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operations you know there's no safe spaces they're teaching this kind of stuff at the navy academy
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they're teaching it at at the west point for the for the uh for those future army officers about safe
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spaces when they when they feel threatened by their by their instructors or they feel you know like
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they need to take a break from the problems of the day i mean when uh when there is a fire at sea
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on board a united states naval warship there's there's no safe space everybody it's all hands
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on deck everybody's moving at the speed of light to to put that fire out and to save lives on the
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battlefield it's the same thing it is the exact same thing when you know there's no safe space that
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you can go to if you're behind a wall being shot at by some enemy who's trying to kill you they don't
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think about diversity they're not thinking about inclusivity or critical race theory they're thinking
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about killing you and they're thinking about protecting whatever it is that they're trying
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to protect so one of the things that we've got to rebuild back into our military is we got to build a
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couple of things and these are really get to the values of our of our armed forces number one is
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leadership i already mentioned trust i would say the whole idea about duty the sense of duty the sense
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of honor of service to nation the sense of country and and loving one's country instead of
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instead of you know trying to build in this whole craziness about you know racial justice inside of
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this this social experiment that they're that we that we feel like the military is being uh you know
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through the ringer taken through the ring around i mean the the battlefield there there is no atheist
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in a foxhole is what my father used to say you know a european theater a world war ii veteran and
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and he and then he went and served over two years in the korean conflict and he was a tough guy
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and now there's no atheist in a foxhole and i experienced that myself in my many years of
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deployments overseas in combat so we have a we have a a or we have a need to return to a set of
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values and in fact what i would say is our our military and our services even though we want to
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maintain the different cultures in our services because of their war fighting uh abilities and what
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we expect out of them i think what we're going to need to do is return to some type of of set of
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values that we all accept and those values they clearly have to do with trust they clearly have to
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do with readiness they clearly have to do with leadership they clearly have to do with courage and honor
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and sense of duty and to me uh the the idea of excellence excellence in uh whatever it is that you're
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trying to achieve standards in the military every exactly i'm just going to say every single thing
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in the military has a quick break go ahead jack quick break quick break right here but we're going
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to come right back on this because this is what americans need to hear to re-establish this bond
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the sacred bond between the people and the military from that when i grew up in the hood i rolled with
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bloods and them boys had a saying you can't be listening to all that slappy whack trimatozala it's a
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bam ship nippy bam bam like human events with jack posobic
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Jeff so we're back here memorial day special human events daily we're on with general michael t
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flynn general flynn i want to ask you a question that might be a little controversial but you're
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you're no stranger to controversy you're happy to take the hard questions as we know
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during and this is my analysis during the obama administration it seemed like so much
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of the flag core president company excluded of course was promoted and put into position because
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they agreed with a certain set of ideals or a certain set of values at the time we didn't really
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have a word for it you might call it woke now or at least was willing to go along with it james o'keefe
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had a video recently where they were talking about this and it was a recruiter but it was similar you
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know the guy was saying oh we have to say this stuff if you want to get ahead you have to go along with
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this stuff if you want to get ahead and my question is though for the people who are the true believers
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in our flag core currently in the military and this is something where even when trump was in he
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couldn't really move against them what do you do with that flag core that's out there that really
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are true believers in this progressive agenda yeah so number one everybody works for the president of
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the united states he is the commander in chief so i i do believe that uh and under the obama
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administration there was clearly uh the the group that was sort of on the end and then there was the
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group that was on the out and i you know i found myself in that latter group this this next
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administration under donald j trump he is going to have to do a cleansing at the top and i mean from
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the chairman the service chiefs uh and it possibly goes down even further and in fact it i know that
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it will have to particularly in in some really critical uh commands that are out there we cannot have
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uh the the type of you know some cases three-star but mostly four-star leaders uh that are that are that
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have bought into this this uh this divert this dei concept i mean we've always been a diverse force
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you know there there's there's equity in the military and has always been equity in the military
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it's called maintaining a standard or achieving or exceeding the standard so you know there's always
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been a very very fair system you know it's a it's its own government if you will and so the president
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of the united states of america is going to have to do a deep cleansing of the leadership at the top
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the rank and file in our country the rank and file i will tell you the rank and file is still
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you know very much uh focused on why they initially why they came in now when i say the rank and file
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i'm talking about you know our young officers our young enlisted uh our mid-grade sergeants sergeants
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first class chiefs chief petty officers you know our majors you know are some of our battalion commanders
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but there's going to have to be sort of a a a retraining period too and the and the retraining
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period after you've done the cleansing when i say cleansing i mean i'm talking about retiring many of
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these people right away like like no more we'll just let them get to their two-year term or their
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four-year term no they have got to be told thank you for your service you're done and and have them
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immediately uh so just just mass mass retirement you're not gonna hire a bunch of i'm sorry so
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just mass retirement for a lot of these guys yeah i mean when you say mass that seems like a bigger
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number and it's going to have to be there's going to have to be a selective retirement certainly the
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other thing i think people need to understand is that we have uh you know we have one of the smallest
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militaries we've ever had right now and they're definitely the most it's the most uh untrained
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and unprepared military that we've had in a long long time untrained for the for the major regional
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conflicts or the potential world war that we you know we'll find ourselves a physical world war that
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we could find ourselves in we're not not ready to do that and so one of the things that has to happen
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is there got to be a return to war fighting there has to be a return to leading and leading from the
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front there has to be a return to readiness and and a and a high standard that's not just a standard
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of knowing how to you know use your weapon system and and and and run an organization but it's it's a
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moral high ground too we have to return our military back to a moral high ground which i think that we've
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lost i think we've lost it because we have just like what's happening in the country right now this this
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this this uh divisiveness that we all feel that is happening to our society that type of divisiveness
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is happening inside of our military the people don't know it most americans don't see it those
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that are really you know those that are inside they can feel it because there's a there is a just like
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what's happening on the on uh you know around our country society you know in our society where there's
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this racial tension in the military they're bringing that type of attitude to our military
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we cannot have that there has to be one standard i don't care whether you're purple with pink polka
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dots if you can meet that standard and you're ready to go to war and you're trained you know you're you're
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you're focused you can achieve the standard then then you know then you're going to be okay so so this
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back to this question of the leadership the leadership at the top is going to have to be changed out
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there that is clear to me i mean if we're not meeting the recruitment goals and and there's
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some other there are some others not just the four stars it's it's there are some other three-star
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commanders out there that are in positions where they're just they're not meeting it because they're
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not leading they're not they're not forcing back up right you got to force back up and meaning up the
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chain of command you've got to say hey look you know we're not going to be able to do this if we're
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going to have this kind of attitude coming out of the civilian leadership and it doesn't mean that
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that that we got to uh disavow what our civilian leaders are telling us absolutely not just the
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reverse but we as general officers as admirals generals flag officers you've got to be prepared
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to throw your stars down and tell your civilian leadership look we are broken as a military and unless
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we fix it i can no longer serve yeah they might have they might be they may be legal orders that
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you're getting but if they're orders that you say to yourself look at this is going to ruin the
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institution of the military then it's time for you to go and and you can't hang around and pretend like
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well i can fix it if i just stay longer no you're part of the problem so the so the the um the president
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of the united states the commander-in-chief is going to have to take a really hard look at whoever the
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the secretary of defense is and then that secretary of defense is going to have to look at with with
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the uh the the uh the support of the president is going to have to take a look at the leadership
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at the top reconnecting to the to the american people and re-establishing that trust and that bond
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and then also bringing bringing in a set of values into our military that that all of us are that these
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sort of universal set of values duty honor country courage leadership ethics you know sort of the
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the morality that we need this idea of of you know we are we are all in this together and there is a
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brotherhood or a sisterhood or what you will that that exists inside of the the formations of all of
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our units you know we we talk about we talk about things like uh foxhole strength or or battlefield
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innovation or um or i would just call it you know the i don't know it's like the ability to juggle
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multiple balls right in our in our leadership and and we want that from our troops as well so many of
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these things we are incapable of doing right now because we have leadership that is so afraid of their own
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shadows because they're afraid if they're not force-feeding critical race theory down to the
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down to the foxhole level and they're going to be you know booted out well then you're not in the
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right profession this is a profession of war fighting this is a profession of war right so we have a warrior
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and code a warrior mentality and i mean you're you're you're sounding all the right the right terms
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number one first and foremost the the purpose of the military is to hurt people and break stuff
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in the defense of our nation and so the quite i guess here's my next question i know we only have
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you for a couple more minutes on the program when we say that phrase in the defense of our nation
00:27:09.880
it feels like so many of the things that we're currently doing aren't in the defense of our nation
00:27:13.800
they're in defense of some uh political interest or some economic interest and yet we see our border
00:27:20.200
that's completely wide open general would would you be supportive of what president trump has talked
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about in taking military action regarding these cartels operating across our border
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yes and i would even go further jack we need to designate the the drug cartels as foreign terrorist
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organizations and we need to use military forces and military application to destroy them
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and i mean destroy them and i would have no problems positioning military forces along our border u.s
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active military forces along our border to go in and just and you know once these organizations are
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designated as foreign terrorist organizations because that's what they are they are caught they
00:27:57.800
are killing people in this country i mean fentanyl alone is close to 200 000 killed in action in just
00:28:03.640
the last year jack so absolutely and you know the last thing on this that i'd say on this you know
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beautiful memorial day weekend and i appreciate you running uh uh you know you running this this uh this this
00:28:15.320
this testimony to our armed forces and to the men and women serving on this very important weekend
00:28:21.640
and frankly we ought to we you ought to cherish them every single day uh we we have still in our
00:28:28.840
country we still have that you know keep men and women young men and women who are willing to give
00:28:34.440
their lives for the cause of freedom i know that because i speak to many of them what they are wary of
00:28:41.640
they're wary of joining an armed forces where they cannot uh do the kinds of things that they have
00:28:48.200
that they have seen they have read about that things we that they're like we talked about earlier
00:28:52.840
the legacy of their of their uncles their their fathers and what they have talked about in terms
00:28:58.360
of service to country and what they've seen in service to country and in a variety of of ways
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we want that attitude back i want that attitude back the only way that we're going to get that
00:29:08.200
attitude back you know here on this memorial day and with the new administration under president
00:29:12.360
donald j trump is by re-establishing that bond of trust between those we want to serve and those who
00:29:18.680
are serving and those where we need to get that that uh that body of strength from meaning the moms
00:29:24.520
and dads principally the moms and dads but also these days joe or jack it's also uh it's also from
00:29:31.000
the grandmas and grandpas and the uncles and and and again those who have have had a legacy of
00:29:37.000
service in uniform to our country in the past going back at least as far as let's say the korean
00:29:42.360
war although we still have a few world war ii vets with us but certainly the korean war the vietnam
00:29:47.800
war we want people to come in last thing jack is that and this is this is about attitude we have to
00:29:55.880
develop a winning attitude in our armed forces no more participating in these endless wars and that's
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why uh and that was and as i as i talked about as you highlighted early on the movie one of the
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things i talked about with donald j trump early on was the idea of winning and getting out of these
00:30:13.000
endless wars and ending them right ending them on our turn specific objective a definite goal
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we have to bring a winning god bless you back to this thank you final word to our armed forces so
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you know on this memorial day let's let's get that winning attitude back let's take that idea
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of winning back and we can do that and we can do it on our terms we go we win we come home we keep
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america safe and on this world day weekend make sure you go see flynn you're looking for a movie to go
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see why you're barbecuing whatever you're doing check out the documentary flynn you will not regret
00:30:49.880
it stay tuned be right back and jack where's jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you
00:31:03.560
great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always talking
00:31:09.080
about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting
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always lieutenant colonel tony schaefer tony something we're just talking about here with general flynn
00:32:22.680
was this idea that our military our military force right now is not inspiring anyone to join and the
00:32:31.640
idea of using 9 11 again and again like i keep hearing from the flag corps the 18 year old of today
00:32:38.760
so so people turning 18 in 2024 were born in 2006. that means 9 11 to them is something that happened
00:32:48.680
five years before they were born now i'm not saying it hasn't affected them i'm not saying
00:32:53.240
it doesn't have resonance but it's fundamentally different than it was before you can't just
00:32:59.080
automatically get people to join and i think a lot of people say when you see things like the fall of
00:33:03.480
kabul we see things like this absolute debacle in uh in ukraine and the bloodlands of eurasia people are
00:33:11.480
saying why would i want to get involved with a organization like that so tony my question is
00:33:18.920
if and when trump gets in in november come 2025 how do we set about righting the ship
00:33:26.120
well you do it two ways jack thanks for having me for this i appreciate the opportunity to speak on
00:33:30.360
this topic um you do it two ways first um you've got to cut out the cancer which is dci um one of the
00:33:38.200
things that's pervasive and i i talk to people all the time who see it on the inside oh by the way jack
00:33:43.720
if if you so chose now if you wanted to you know get back in you wanted to become a girl just saying
00:33:50.600
that would be an incentive i am not joking about i am not remotely joking about that that is something
00:33:57.320
that they're doing and if you're a guy and you want to yeah i'll run it by my wife i'm sure it'll go
00:34:01.880
real well anyway but that's my point and then that happens and you're and you know what happened you're
00:34:07.720
not deployable you know um transgenderism is a mental uh the mental issue and you cut on people
00:34:15.160
and give them drugs that they have to take every day or else they revert back to their prior form
00:34:19.960
they're not deployable that person becomes a permanent ward department of defense it's a form
00:34:24.920
of welfare that that's not that's not raising recruiting numbers i don't i'm sorry jack a lot
00:34:29.720
of people aren't wanting to change genders join the military i think that so it's got to go it's
00:34:34.440
not working it's not a good strategy so you got to get rid of all that next and mike flint said this
00:34:40.440
too we got to get back to the point of where we have attitude of patriotism of turn for our republic
00:34:49.640
for what it is and what the founding fathers wanted it to be and then the idea that we're serving
00:34:54.600
something greater than ourselves this whole idea of joining the military to be all you can be
00:35:00.280
yeah not so much i mean i know the army use that as a saying be all you can be but i think the part
00:35:06.440
two of that is be all you can be in service to something greater than yourself god and country
00:35:11.560
we need to get that back into the mix and then as a as a tension of that winning mike said this i agree
00:35:17.560
with him over the time of my military career i served 31 and a half years there were very few leaders who
00:35:24.360
who actually exemplified winning better than storm and norman schwarzkoff general schwarzkoff
00:35:30.280
was the graduation speaker when i went to the farm uh that up there's my class picture
00:35:36.760
at the farm we have that was our class symbolism the uh of roger thornhill running in the movie
00:35:43.720
north by northwest that was our symbol anyway up for and that was a great hitchcockian
00:35:48.360
fly movie anyway my point being jack is that the idea of winning and the united states national
00:35:58.200
security policy have been distant relatives if not uh divorced for a long time we got to return
00:36:05.560
the idea of looting entanglements with some level of the victory of our choosing not someone else i think
00:36:12.840
trump's going to do that because i think he's pretty fed up with being victimized both at the
00:36:17.640
international and domestic level but those are the things get rid of dei change the attitude uh
00:36:24.600
regarding the military eliminate officers who don't get the memo that they don't understand your job is
00:36:29.960
to serve the republic serve the people and fire them if need be i i think that would be a good thing
00:36:35.720
and then get back to doing the basic things as you said also killing people and breaking things on call
00:36:40.920
that's the military's job not to be a social petri dish allowing everybody to feel good about
00:36:46.120
whatever malady may write them down well in in addition to the social engineering aspect
00:36:54.040
can we talk a little bit i'd love to pick your brain as well about the u.s military's involvement
00:36:58.760
in seemingly all of these conflicts everywhere in the world we're involved in everyone's dirty business
00:37:05.000
other than our own right right uh you could find i don't think you could find i don't think it'd be
00:37:10.520
very hard to do recruiting if you had a president up there who says we're going after the cartels i'm
00:37:16.040
sick of the fentanyl i'm sick of what they've done let's go we're going to do this you would have
00:37:20.520
volunteers like like actually for if people remember the uh the mexican-american war we had tons of
00:37:25.400
volunteers said the hunt down for santa anna all this people volunteered to go and do that
00:37:30.200
during the cold war i um i turned 18 in 1980 and um and just in time for the for the reagan
00:37:38.440
presidential election and i proudly voted for reagan because reagan was bringing patriotism
00:37:45.080
and the idea of winning back remember we just come out of well you don't remember because you
00:37:48.600
weren't there but i remember we had just come out of we well i was there but i'm not not old enough to
00:37:54.040
remember it i remember it and so my point being is that reagan struck the very chord you're talking
00:38:00.600
about the idea that we are going to have a purpose we're going to do things we're going to take on the
00:38:05.240
evil empire and do something and by the way as you know studying history you weren't there but you study
00:38:10.360
history people were upset with reagan it's like oh my how how dare you challenge the the convention of
00:38:17.240
the wisdom of all the professional bureaucracies like no uh my philosophy is uh they lose we win
00:38:24.200
that's it so we need to get back to that and yeah to your point regarding cartels regarding terrorists
00:38:29.080
regarding all that stuff trump needs to to tap into that inherent patriotism which still exists within
00:38:37.320
the midwest within those who love the country and ignore convention that is to say like reagan did
00:38:44.120
or all the nervous nelly's oh this is going to upset the card of apples with the soviets
00:38:50.120
maybe but maybe it'll destabilize and so uh another thing too i'll say this and be very direct about
00:38:55.880
it reagan never sought war with russia soviet much as they were an evil empire it led with other things
00:39:02.680
the idea was to defeat them without having to actually fire a bullet or or jeopardize blood and
00:39:08.600
treasure we need to get back to that attitude let's just find a way to win even if it's unconventional
00:39:14.440
and here's and here's my question as well is when when reagan was facing the soviet union that was
00:39:20.520
a clearly divine target with a clearly defined strategic intent clearly defined outcome clearly
00:39:28.280
defined ending right nowadays people say and i'm just going to say it and and i know i know you've
00:39:34.840
heard this before people will say so the united states took four presidents 20 plus years and how many
00:39:43.640
deaths to replace the taliban with the taliban like yeah what what was the point of all that and that
00:39:52.360
doesn't inspire confidence when you have an organization that has not done anything to the united states in
00:40:00.120
over two plus decades it becomes very hard to sell that to people but if you come over and say look
00:40:07.640
we've got these cartels on our border the same way that thomas jefferson had the barbary pirates to deal
00:40:13.400
with when he became our president and launched uh one of america's first overseas conflicts and said we
00:40:19.480
are going to go and do something about that i think if our government and our military were able to
00:40:25.400
articulate these things then people would actually start going back in again and i think that this is
00:40:31.160
a huge disconnect because you'll get these people up there that look like rachel levine saying you need
00:40:36.680
to serve america because of our glorious democracy and our diversity and our and like what this doesn't
00:40:44.200
speak to the type of people that want to join the military all right yeah maybe the peace corps or maybe
00:40:49.000
you know people looking for government jobs but it does not speak to the people who want to go and
00:40:54.760
fight and more importantly make the enemy bleed in order to protect their homeland stay tuned folks
00:41:01.400
be right back lieutenant colonel tony schaefer memorial day special this case is a joke
00:41:10.440
ashton kutcher is going to the top and left to tell us that we've been pumped
00:41:21.160
jackson back live memorial day human events daily with on with lieutenant colonel tony schaefer so tony
00:41:27.400
i'd love to pick your brain on this this idea and get your thoughts on if the american people if you
00:41:34.200
go i'm speaking specifically to young men because you know let's let's not be woke we're gonna throw
00:41:39.640
woke out here for a second the people that do the majority of the war fighting not just in the united
00:41:45.240
states today but throughout all of human recorded history have been young males okay this is your war
00:41:54.120
force and the fact of the matter is that it's predominantly young white males that the military
00:42:00.360
is not recruiting anymore or not even trying to recruit um actually funny enough um there was a
00:42:06.920
there was a joke going around on twitter that said you know how the military is preparing preparing for
00:42:11.320
war because they change the actors in the recruitment ads to young white males um so in order to go after
00:42:17.480
this group then you have to have a clearly defined target they're not just going to want to jump in
00:42:25.080
and go after when they can see things like afghanistan they can see things uh that don't inspire any
00:42:31.320
confidence whatsoever or even any any trust that our leadership has their interests at heart what can
00:42:38.360
trump and the next administration do to fix this well as i mentioned before we i there's some of the
00:42:46.680
recommendations i make to fix the military the first thing you have to do if you take power
00:42:53.640
is effectively pick deputy i would argue outside of mike flynn and a handful of others trump didn't
00:42:59.080
do a good job of that last time so i think i'd like to believe the president's learned his lesson
00:43:03.800
the the first thing that that trump has to do and i think other mike and others like myself will be
00:43:08.200
there to advise you got to take out the first three levels of leadership the people who are
00:43:14.520
currently in charge jack are supporting the very adverse and and negative and and failing uh policies
00:43:22.200
that you and i are discussing they're not going to change they're not going to change back the way it
00:43:26.920
was before you need to get rid of them because they are essentially you're not going to you're not going to
00:43:30.680
re-educate and deprogram and no no no they came through the obama biden system so they're there
00:43:36.840
they yes they belong to that be done with it move them on uh general said a uh a a cleansing of early
00:43:45.080
retirement offers and and i've i saw the reduction of force in the early 90s we can do it again again a
00:43:52.600
lot of us jack have been i've seen this movie before we know how to play the role we just have to be
00:43:56.920
given the script and allowed to go do it so well here's here's my if if i can get we have a couple
00:44:02.600
minutes left sure but but here's what i specifically want to ask you so we know that america and and you
00:44:08.600
and i talk about this on the regular you know day-to-day when we're chopping up about the news
00:44:13.400
about what's going on in the middle east or what's going on in asia or what's going on
00:44:18.760
in uh predominantly in eastern uh ukraine we say what's america's strategic strategic national
00:44:25.880
interest in these areas and should we have military involvement and it never really seems to be that
00:44:30.760
these are military moves uh many of these cases can be solved diplomatically they could be solved
00:44:35.880
economically uh or or just face-to-face meetings with presidents as as president trump had uh famously
00:44:42.920
employed when you see the military though and the use of the military for uh kinetic operations as we now
00:44:50.680
call them right actual combat operations what do you see on the board do you see anything i mean obviously
00:44:56.360
the cartels are number one should that become the new focus of a new american military the the key is
00:45:05.880
is deterrence and i let me be as clear as i can be one of the things about the reagan buildup
00:45:13.240
and let me tell you a little secret the intent was never to use it jack it's like
00:45:17.640
to prepare a military that is so uh enormous you've i'm sure you've seen the movie the hunt for red
00:45:24.040
october right the the tom clancy novel have i seen that has the navy guy seen hunt for red october come on
00:45:30.200
tom clancy was you're asking the squid tom clancy was coached by the u.s navy planners you know what
00:45:37.560
i'm talking about to have certain things embedded in that story so that was the intention was to show
00:45:44.040
the russians clancy had clearance throughout his entire career it wasn't just hunker in october he had
00:45:49.800
he had full clearance um the cia used to bring him in and they used to use those novels to talk to him
00:45:56.840
yeah send their little signals is that we were able to not only having a military force that's
00:46:03.960
mighty is to make them believe that we'd kick their ass if they did anything that's the beauty of it
00:46:09.080
so we need to get back to that because the perception of of of might is more effective than
00:46:15.000
just having might and reagan brought it trump can bring it that's where we have to go with this to
00:46:20.360
re-establish a credible deterrent system that that is like the belief is you do something you're going to
00:46:26.440
be crushed otherwise we want to be your best friend we don't want to get involved in your stuff
00:46:30.760
we want to be there to be helpful if things become difficult so that's what we should go back to i
00:46:35.160
think it worked with reagan i'm a reagan guy i espouse this idea and i think i think trump would
00:46:40.520
be another guy that would want to do the same thing well of course and and this is you know this
00:46:46.360
is clear we want the strongest military possible right want to have the best military on the planet we
00:46:52.760
ought to and we certainly have the best pool for it the question though is and this is why you get
00:46:57.880
people like i mean you people we get we get a lot we'll have to have another conversation about what
00:47:02.520
russia is doing with their new uh minister of defense and shifting into this massive economic
00:47:08.040
i mean they're turning putin's turned on the war economy over there turning on the war industry all
00:47:11.640
they never they never what do we do framework for yeah they never did and what and what do we do we we
00:47:17.800
we uh we complain about it we whine about it we write strongly worded letters and we claim that
00:47:24.040
that is actual deterrence no it turns out that it isn't so the arsenal of freedom needs to be actually
00:47:30.680
arsenalized but here's my my my biggest point though is if you tell people that they have a specific
00:47:37.800
target that is an actual threat to the united states and that you need to go and fight i i truly believe
00:47:45.880
that the young men of this country would still be willing to do so last minute what say you tony
00:47:51.080
shaver so the the cartels and the elements that are subordinated or linked to it are a clear and
00:47:58.840
present danger it's just like the movie clear and present danger you had the cartels right on the
00:48:02.760
southwest border another clancy reference i'm sensing a pattern tony yeah yeah you are and then yeah and
00:48:08.680
he had a lot of good ideas just saying based on the relationship he had with the pentagon but there's
00:48:14.280
reasons why jack we need to examine and map mexico as an adversary oh by the way not tom clancy related
00:48:21.080
the guy named blackjack pershing actually led a next uh a uh an expedition a punitive expedition
00:48:27.960
into mexico wasn't a bad idea at the time and i think it's something we need to look at again because
00:48:32.600
we do have enemies our center colon tony shafer where can people go and follow you and get
00:48:38.600
connected to all your coordinates project sentinel.com and obviously just look for me on twitter with you
00:48:44.520
and uh we always have things that are exciting over on x x as we go so thanks jack for having me on
00:48:50.360
good to be on with you god bless man look to everybody out there celebrating this memorial day if you had
00:48:55.560
family that served i've got family that served in many many american wars remember god bless their
00:49:01.720
service ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay ashore