Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 26, 2026


MISTRIAL: COMMUNIST JURORS, THE LA ARSONIST, & THE TYLER ROBINSON DEATH PENALTY BATTLE


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00:00:53.880 Christ is king.
00:00:55.480 Less than 24 hours after President Trump declared that the deal with Iran was going well.
00:01:01.300 Iran is being very nice. They're agreeing to everything that I want.
00:01:05.440 Today, U.S. officials tell ABC News Iran attacked a cargo ship attempting to cross the Strait of Hormuz.
00:01:12.720 Iran has imposed new conditions forbidding ships from traveling outside of its approved shipping lanes.
00:01:19.440 Well, Secretary of War Hegseth just got a live demonstration of directed energy weapons.
00:01:23.860 He says the Pentagon intends to buy tens to hundreds of these in the coming years.
00:01:28.060 It's the first known viewing of a directed energy weapon demonstration by a sitting war secretary.
00:01:34.300 So what are they?
00:01:35.520 Directed energy weapons fire concentrated energy at the speed of light.
00:01:39.100 And for years, intelligence officials working abroad have reported brain injuries known as Havana syndrome.
00:01:45.220 A number of Supreme Court rulings coming down this morning.
00:01:47.500 One that clears the way for the Trump administration to limit how many migrants could apply for asylum.
00:01:53.860 Each day is the U.S.-Mexico border.
00:01:56.180 The practice, known as metering, was used during both the Obama and first Trump administrations.
00:02:02.740 Supporters say it helped manage large numbers of asylum seekers,
00:02:06.080 while critics argue it left thousands of migrants waiting in unsafe conditions.
00:02:10.960 The policy is not currently in effect, but the 6-3 ruling allows the administration to consider bringing it back.
00:02:17.240 The Supreme Court also allowing the administration to end a temporary legal protections for migrants from Haiti and Syria.
00:02:25.440 This opens the door to possible deportations for hundreds of thousands of people.
00:02:30.800 In two federal courts yesterday, a group of protesters received unusually long sentences after the Justice Department accused them of being members of the far left movement Antifa.
00:02:41.860 The sentences range from 30 to 100 years in prison.
00:02:45.360 Breaking news. A judge has just declared a mistrial in the Palisades federal arson case.
00:02:52.000 This is big news. Judge Graff just found one of the Utah County prosecutors, Chris Ballard,
00:02:57.500 in contempt for violating the court's pretrial publicity order. Now, Tyler Robinson's defense
00:03:03.080 was asking for the death penalty to be removed from the case as punishment. But Judge Graff
00:03:09.520 declined, saying it's grossly disproportionate to the misconduct.
00:03:15.360 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board. Today's edition of Human Events Daily. Today is June 26, 2026. Anno Domini.
00:03:23.320 Well, folks, it seems that arson is now legal in Los Angeles. 0.87
00:03:28.420 You can burn down the entire Palisades and you will not be found guilty by a jury of your communist peers. 0.58
00:03:38.220 What's going on here? Well, you know that we have been covering this story. 0.87
00:03:41.860 One of the only outlets in all of media actually covering this story on a day to day basis, certainly in conservative media, because for some reason, conservatives just don't want to talk about left wing violence as much as they should and actually carrying out these trials and covering the trials all the way to the bitter end.
00:03:59.640 Well, in this case, the end is quite bitter because what do we see?
00:04:03.340 We see a trial that has now become a mistrial and obviously guilty, obviously guilty individual.
00:04:12.080 Jonathan Rindernecht, an Uber driver who was found to have lit the Palisades fire.
00:04:19.360 He lit one fire, which then was not put out properly, which then ignited a secondary larger fire that burned down the entire Pacific Palisades.
00:04:27.240 They had the evidence. We've gone through the evidence with you here on the program over and over and over because our crack team at Human Events Daily has been digging through all of this for you.
00:04:38.480 What have we found? Well, we found that his cell phone was there.
00:04:42.300 He was the only person on the specific trail where the fire started at that specific time.
00:04:48.060 They found evidence of Firestarter. They even found chat GPT chat logs where he was going through and looking up images, creating images of the Pacific Calisades burning down.
00:05:03.040 He's also a known firebug who had other incidents of burning down fires in the past.
00:05:07.860 and of course perhaps most uh disturbingly he would spend his uber drives and as if you go and
00:05:18.380 look up his rating on on uber that his uber rider said that he would be ranting and raving about
00:05:24.080 luigi magione and saying that somebody needs to do something to the rich somebody needs to do
00:05:30.940 something because he was obsessed with luigi magione and would talk about magione to anyone
00:05:35.740 who would listen while riding in the back of his Uber. It didn't matter who they were,
00:05:40.560 but he would rant and rave about Maggioni and he would become fixated on doing something like
00:05:47.920 Maggioni did. And so he did. He burned down the Palisades. And what just happened? A little
00:05:54.060 something called jury nullification. And in jury nullification, that's when jurors come up and say,
00:06:01.360 yeah we see the evidence we see everything that uh points to this suspect as being the one who did
00:06:09.680 it it's pretty clear pretty cut and dry but we're gonna let him off anyway now la of course is
00:06:15.300 infamous for this in the oj simpson case where oj simpson very clearly cut his wife's head off
00:06:21.560 and killed a waiter named ron goldman but the jury let him off and jurors later said we didn't want
00:06:29.300 to be on the side of the police the same way that Rodney King's police officers had been let off.
00:06:36.640 So we were going to let OJ off as revenge for Rodney King. Now, if that doesn't make any sense
00:06:44.980 to you, that's because it doesn't make any rational sense. There's no connection there
00:06:48.420 whatsoever. Unless you view things through the lens of leftism, unless you view things through
00:06:54.880 the lens of tribalism. And in this case, you have one tribe, the tribe of the communists,
00:07:01.120 helping their fellow communists get off and get away with murder. Ten jurors refused to find him 0.70
00:07:08.920 guilty. Two people looked at this and said, yeah, the evidence is obvious. And they refused to
00:07:14.840 change their vote. So God bless those two jurors, at least, because LA can bring these charges and
00:07:19.380 should bring them again. And actually, the federal government needs to bring them again.
00:07:24.040 Right back, Jack Posobiec with Marvel Chamberlain.
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00:09:50.260 guest on to go through it. I wouldn't I belay my last, though, because I am not excited to have
00:09:56.200 him on about this subject. Will Chamberlain is on from the Article 3 project to discuss what I
00:10:02.500 believe is jury nullification in Los Angeles. Will, how are you? Doing great. Thank you.
00:10:07.400 um will you know walk me out the ledge correct me if i'm wrong but this looks like a it looked to
00:10:15.960 me like a clear-cut case that this was the guy they had the evidence they they hadn't they had
00:10:19.840 the they had the motive they had the intent they had the he had he had the intent he had what do
00:10:24.920 they call it the motive the means and the opportunity to conduct this uh he was there
00:10:29.460 they connected right back to him they found the chat gpt logs on his phone seems good to go and
00:10:35.060 yet 10 jurors in los angeles said we are not going to find him guilty we're and to me and
00:10:42.640 to whereas two looked at it and said he's obviously guilty he's he's clearly guilty he did all the
00:10:47.220 evidence points directly to him well what are we to make of this i i'm skeptical your take jack i
00:10:53.080 i think uh my my guess is something went on a trial you know uh because and the reason i say
00:10:59.720 that is 10 jurors voted to acquit and so that doesn't mean he's not guilty i'm almost certain
00:11:04.120 he's guilty but what that suggests to me is there may have been an issue at trial in terms of uh
00:11:09.280 proof beyond a reasonable doubt like my understanding of the proof is that there is some
00:11:13.440 amount of it's like reasonably circumstantial they're like trying to place him at the spot
00:11:17.560 but they you know he was never seen to actually like light the match and so that's where you might
00:11:23.320 have a two jurors who are like yeah but the overwhelming amount of other proof really does
00:11:26.640 demonstrate that he really did it and maybe 10 jurors just thought and maybe he maybe it wasn't
00:11:30.900 him like see to me that kind of seems like the that kind of also sounds a little bit like the
00:11:37.040 uh you know we've talked about the csi effect on juries in the past but you know what we might say
00:11:43.580 today is the cell phone effect right um because we live in a case in a world where there's so much
00:11:50.520 uh cell phone footage of seemingly everything that happens in every crime but now suddenly
00:11:56.880 when you have a crime where there is no footage,
00:11:58.800 either on a cell phone or closed-circuit TV,
00:12:01.440 because this was, of course, out on some trail up in the wilderness.
00:12:07.220 They said, well, you know, if we don't see it on video,
00:12:09.060 we don't know if we can vote guilty.
00:12:12.400 And that's just me speculating, though.
00:12:15.220 But it is something that I've wondered about
00:12:17.340 because you go back to things like George Floyd, Kyle Rittenhouse,
00:12:21.180 and it's all of Daniel Penny.
00:12:22.720 Everything is on video.
00:12:23.960 Carmelo Anthony is on video.
00:12:25.160 and yet to see something without video is actually beyond the norm now.
00:12:29.920 Yeah, and I mean, I think it would be hard to, even in Los Angeles, which is full of some weird
00:12:34.620 people, it would be hard to find 10 jurors out of, a jury with 10 jurors out of 12 who would believe
00:12:39.120 that the guy did it beyond a reasonable doubt and still vote to acquit a guy who burned down
00:12:44.560 the Pacific Palisades. I just, I can't get, you know, you might find one or two crazy people like 0.88
00:12:49.520 that but 10 out of 12 i i lean strongly towards thinking uh that at least a good chunk of these
00:12:56.340 people acquitted in good faith and not necessarily because they thought the guy was innocent but
00:13:00.340 you know there could have been problems at trial i you know i'm as a good defense lawyer if there
00:13:04.700 really was if there was no video of this guy lighting the match and setting it on fire there's
00:13:09.780 a lot you can do with that um you know there's there's stuff you have to explain away but you
00:13:14.640 know if you can come up with some sort of alternate explanation or hammer home that they just don't
00:13:18.640 have the proof they can't put the match in the guy's hand that's what they cannot do and uh if
00:13:25.720 they can't do that you must acquit like i could see using a strategy like that and obtaining a
00:13:30.660 mistrial well at one point the and and you know i know i'm throwing this at you if the defense
00:13:37.340 attorney steve haney requested an allen charge also commonly known as a dynamite charge or a
00:13:43.340 hammer charge uh can you walk are you familiar with that can you walk us through that that term
00:13:47.780 of art yeah yeah my understanding the allen charges is uh that it's a way for the judge to
00:13:55.640 make a really forced
00:13:56.780 to try and get them to unanimity hey guys i think we're getting a little bit of lag with will let's
00:14:13.720 try to reconnect that real quick here um you know something's up with the connection but
00:14:17.660 But yeah, so this this charge that the jurors have been deliberating pretty much all week and they weren't sure, you know, what was going on.
00:14:25.140 We weren't sure. We, of course, were on jury watch, verdict watch, waiting for this to come down.
00:14:30.100 And what we ended up seeing here was this this final last dish effort to force an agreement.
00:14:37.480 And when, you know, when that did not occur, the judge asked each juror whether it was impossible to come to unanimous decision on the charges.
00:14:47.020 each member of the jury replied yes it was not possible to come out and prosecutors argued that
00:14:54.760 he intentionally maliciously started the fire called the lockman fire which smoldered for seven
00:14:58.720 several days which later then became the giant palisades fire six days later they have him
00:15:05.160 climbing up the hill they have the angry the anger the rich losers kind of statements the things that
00:15:11.700 were all done. And, uh, Haney claimed that there was insufficient evidence and we're still waiting
00:15:17.980 to see exactly, um, you know, if any of the jurors do speak out after this and, you know,
00:15:25.860 if they, you know, if they say anything, um, you know, say, you know, say anything different about
00:15:34.580 why it was that they were unable to come to this. And to me, I just, I have to say, you know,
00:15:40.920 in an area that's, that's known for this, I'm going to put at least some, at least some,
00:15:46.620 uh, you know, belief in this idea that perhaps just perhaps this could be jury nullification
00:15:54.860 on this guys, how are we working on? Do we have a, do we have a, do we have will back?
00:16:00.580 Okay. So will is, will is reconnecting right now as we speak. So just going through a little bit
00:16:06.980 Moore, Jonathan Rindernecht.
00:16:09.120 Now, this was three federal accounts.
00:16:10.520 He was not charged, if you recall, was not charged with murder.
00:16:14.040 So there were multiple deaths that occurred, and none of those were charged for him.
00:16:20.660 They were trying to only charge him for, and I believe they could add more later, and I
00:16:24.400 believe they should, personally.
00:16:26.140 But again, this is going to become a real trial.
00:16:30.520 This is going to be, again, upset about a relationship where he had broken up.
00:16:35.000 He was fixated on wealth disparity and climate change.
00:16:38.400 He wanted revenge against society for his problems in his life.
00:16:42.620 He was fixated on Luigi Maggioni.
00:16:45.340 He had used terms in ChatGPT like free Luigi Maggioni, let's take down all the billionaires, 1.00
00:16:52.880 Reddit, let's kill all the billionaires. 0.99
00:16:55.100 That's his statement. 1.00
00:16:55.840 That's not my statement.
00:16:56.580 And he ended up working on December 31st, 2024, because he had no plans to celebrate New Year's Eve.
00:17:07.400 And they allege that he used a Bic lighter to light the fire, which they found was not caused by lightning, fireworks, or power lines.
00:17:17.560 Waiting to hear more about what specifically this came out.
00:17:23.160 Will, do we have you again? Can we try that again?
00:17:25.140 yeah i'm here hey will so yeah just two minutes till break but but will walk us through you know
00:17:33.560 set aside what exactly caused the mistrial what is what moves are available now to prosecutors
00:17:39.680 no they just got to bring a new trial uh and and think about what they did that what was
00:17:45.520 insufficiently proved in their view i think that there's probably i mean the prosecutors are going
00:17:49.240 to want to bring this case again because they think he did it but they're going to have to think
00:17:51.740 through why they managed to lose 10 jurors here. That's where I'd start with them. I wouldn't just
00:17:57.220 assume this is jury nullification. I'd assume that they did not persuade a sufficient number
00:18:00.960 of jurors who were acting in good faith. And indeed, because they had, let's see,
00:18:08.620 eight hours of video where he was with an ATF agent and they walked through the scene of the
00:18:15.700 They, you know, walked through, you know, video of him talking about it, specifically Rinderneck even asked at one point, if do you think someone might have started this fire in the Palisades if they were frustrated with inequality and specifically targeted because they were they wanted revenge on society.
00:18:36.120 So, I mean, I can certainly understand why the prosecutors would zero in on the guy who was at there at this place at the time who was ranting and raving about the inequality in society.
00:18:50.860 But to your point, yes, they are going to need to find more.
00:18:54.300 But I'm going to say, like, you got to you got what you got to watch your your voir dire as well, because sometimes sometimes the trial can just come down to that.
00:19:02.820 Jack Percevic, Will Chamberlain.
00:19:04.120 We've got a number of legal cases
00:19:05.520 we're going to be walking through.
00:19:06.920 Human Defense Daily continues.
00:19:30.360 Hey, you know,
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00:19:46.700 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events, Daily Real America's Voice,
00:19:53.960 and we're here with Will Chamberlain.
00:19:56.900 He's on from the Article 3 project.
00:19:59.000 Now, we just talked about the L.A. case.
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00:21:39.320 So Will Chamberlain, this is a huge story
00:21:45.280 that came up regarding Tyler Robinson.
00:21:50.280 Of course, we've been covering that case.
00:21:52.960 And this piece, I really wanted to get in with you
00:21:55.740 because it's definitely something,
00:21:57.120 Obviously, for all of us that that we've all been following closely.
00:22:02.260 A prosecutor was held in contempt today regarding a violation of the gag order because of his statement to TMZ regarding what he believed was misinformation.
00:22:15.200 I would agree it was misinformation about a ballistics report that came out in the case.
00:22:20.140 The judge said that he thought that the prosecutor's statement went too far and is effectively imposing a fine on him for this statement.
00:22:31.300 Will, can you walk us through sort of just what are all the machinations here?
00:22:35.980 Why is the gag order in place and why did he view this statement as as violating it?
00:22:41.740 OK, I'm I'm back. Sorry about that.
00:22:44.040 um yeah so the the the statements were about uh the statements were about like the strength of
00:22:53.220 the evidence in the case prosecutors aren't allowed to talk about that because of prejudice
00:22:57.120 is a potential jury pool the remedy as discussed i think the defense asked for them to knock out
00:23:02.500 the death penalty charge the judge dismissed that out of hand said that's ridiculous um the remedy
00:23:07.080 is going to be questions at voir dire to cure the contempt so the idea being that in addition
00:23:13.340 there will be some questions about, did you read this particular reporting or did you see any
00:23:17.320 statements from the prosecutors? Something to that effect. And you'll do that so that it'll
00:23:21.760 be easier for prosecutors to, for the defense to weed out any jurors who might've heard the
00:23:26.940 prejudicial statements. So in this case though, if the juror, if the, if the prosecutor, and I read
00:23:34.780 the statement, the prosecutor's statement was that, so the first statement was that it was a
00:23:38.660 clarification on what the ballistics report actually said in the tyler robinson case and that
00:23:43.660 clarification was that in response to this sort of tmz slash um daily mail headline and tmz had
00:23:50.960 sort of like reblogged it repackaged it saying that oh tyler robinson's gun erroneously stating
00:23:57.200 that it had been uh uh discounted from the potential bullets that was that were used that
00:24:04.800 were found in Charlie's autopsy. And what the prosecutor was coming back and, and correcting
00:24:11.000 was to say, no, no, no, that's not what was found. What was found was that the class of gun was
00:24:16.580 included, but they, but because it had fragmented, they couldn't connect it directly to his specific
00:24:23.180 rifle, but they could, they could connect it to that class of rifle. I'm just trying to put this
00:24:28.520 sort of normie terms here rather than, again, go full ballistics gun nerd on everybody.
00:24:34.700 But point being was that was the clarification.
00:24:37.620 But then there was another line where he said, we believe that we have ample evidence
00:24:42.680 and strong evidence that will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tyler Robinson is
00:24:47.140 guilty.
00:24:47.940 So was that the part that the judge was zeroing in on here?
00:24:51.200 He said that part he felt went beyond the simple clarification.
00:24:56.700 Yeah, I think that's right.
00:24:57.580 That's my understanding.
00:24:58.300 at least, that it was that latter statement that created the contempt issue. But I don't know. It
00:25:03.400 also might have been the first statement. I didn't actually listen to the whole hearing. I just saw
00:25:06.580 some rumblings about that specific point on social media. In any event, this won't be a big
00:25:11.780 deal for the broader trial. It might have some slight impact on jury selection, but that's about
00:25:19.860 it. What kind of impact would it have on jury selection? Well, it just means that you would
00:25:26.640 ask, the judge would ensure that jurors are asked specific questions about these things,
00:25:30.680 written questions. And so it might weed out some jurors who are familiar with the statements.
00:25:36.300 Okay. So if anyone had heard the statement at all, then perhaps they could, perhaps the defense
00:25:42.080 team could say, well, if you heard that statement, you should be stricken. And the judge, you know,
00:25:47.140 could potentially be bound by, you know, this, this, you know, this precedent, basically that
00:25:52.240 that's prejudicial. Yeah, that's, that's the right way to think about it.
00:25:56.640 So, OK, that's interesting. So had anyone heard that? Now, that being said, though, I would see I would say that it that if that's true, then what they should also do, if I were the prosecutors, if I'm playing that role, I would say, well, if that's the case, then we should also hold that.
00:26:13.680 if you saw that TMZ headline or that Daily Mail headline, that that would also be prejudicial
00:26:18.300 because you're saying that you took, you took a headline that was clearly erroneous. And I think
00:26:25.820 that was viewed way, way more time, just like anything else was viewed way more times than
00:26:30.140 the clarification. So you'd think, I certainly hope that the prosecutors use that line to sort
00:26:35.000 of push back as I talk about again, jury selection that, Hey, if this, if one is prejudicial,
00:26:41.200 They should both be prejudicial. Yeah. And I think that would be true regardless. I mean, obviously, you know, part of the jury selection process is figuring out whether people are unnecessary, you know, biased or too aware of the facts in the case.
00:26:54.220 And that can lead to being struck for cause. So, you know, that's that's I think prosecutors would be doing that anyway, given the existence of this TMZ article.
00:27:02.120 So I don't know if it's going to be like a tit for tat where it's like, oh, you get to exclude somebody. We get to exclude somebody. But rather that, you know, this is something that they just do anyway.
00:27:11.860 We'll see you.
00:27:12.380 Jack Posobiec, Will Chamberlain, right back.
00:27:13.920 Human Events Daily.
00:27:30.480 Hey, Jack, where is Jack?
00:27:33.580 Where is Jack?
00:27:35.840 Where is he?
00:27:37.300 Jack, I want to see you.
00:27:41.200 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do.
00:27:44.680 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:27:46.080 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys,
00:27:49.760 and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
00:27:55.940 All right, folks, Jack Percevic back live, human events, daily, real America's voice.
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00:29:11.080 All right, I want to go on with Will Chamberlain again here a little bit to explain to us why does this all matter so much?
00:29:20.960 What is the, you know, what are the differences between this case and the other cases?
00:29:25.160 And so, Will, when we're talking about little things like, oh, does this prejudice a juror?
00:29:30.240 Does that prejudice a juror?
00:29:31.760 Will this come up?
00:29:32.560 I mean, take just, you know, take what we were talking about before those the 10 and 2 jurors of the L.A. case and now say, hey, this really does come down to 12 people in a room deciding what someone's guilt or innocence is.
00:29:49.920 And in the case of a death penalty case, death penalty trial, then they will also be asked in a separate session whether or not that person should be put to death.
00:29:59.440 And so the composition of those 12 is actually extremely important because they really do hold this decision in their hands.
00:30:10.020 So when people think, oh, this is kind of a dry, you know, why does it matter if someone saw the TMZ article or someone saw the statement or the Daily Mail?
00:30:18.600 Why does it matter?
00:30:19.600 Because it determines the people who determine everything.
00:30:24.620 Walk us through that a little bit. 0.73
00:30:26.340 Right.
00:30:26.780 Right. Well, I mean, it's, you know, everybody's entitled to a fair trial and we understand a fair
00:30:31.340 trial to be one where the decision is made, the guilt is adjudicated based on admissible evidence
00:30:38.620 only, right? The evidence that's put to the jurors, not evidence from the wider world,
00:30:43.820 not the internet, not what they might've read on some blog and not something, you know,
00:30:48.720 they saw on some YouTube video, but the evidence they were actually presented at trial. And so
00:30:53.320 that problem is an interesting problem, obviously, in any jury system. And different countries
00:30:59.900 resolve it in different ways. I mean, we can go all the way back to, you know, why was Tommy
00:31:03.940 Robinson tossed in jail for contempt in court six, seven years ago, something like that. I'm
00:31:07.960 actually almost closer to 10 now than I think about it. I'm getting old. But why was he tossed
00:31:12.580 in jail? Well, the British do something different than we do. You know, we, when we're, we have a 1.00
00:31:16.780 high profile trial where we want to keep the trial process pristine, we'll sometimes do things
00:31:23.300 like sequester jurors, or we'll give them very strong instructions not to read what anybody says
00:31:28.400 about the trial. In England, what they'll do is they'll put in place what's called a reporting
00:31:32.240 restriction, you know, where they will actually demand that reporters not talk about the trial
00:31:37.740 and not talk about what they've seen until after the trial is over. But all these are mechanisms
00:31:42.460 to try and ensure that the trial process is fair from the perspective of the system. And so that's
00:31:48.120 going on here right the whole point of prohibiting out of court uh discussions of the case by
00:31:54.040 prosecutors is to preserve the fairness of the trial um to the extent that that wasn't done
00:31:59.000 they're going to try and uh cure that problem through how they do their jury selection
00:32:06.200 and so this this is key this is absolutely key to any of these pieces that come up
00:32:11.640 You're you are going to find and shape the composition of that jury based on all of these little things.
00:32:18.600 And by the way, we haven't even gotten yet to the fights over which evidence will be admissible and which is inadmissible because we haven't even made it past the preliminary hearing yet.
00:32:28.180 But that will be the next phase of this as this trial hurdles towards its eventual conclusion.
00:32:34.300 And so, Will, when we talk about all this, the reason that it seems that it's going so much slower, you know, we had the Pacific Palisades fire took place, trial took place.
00:32:46.380 But even then, you know, that was a year and a half ago.
00:32:49.760 And here we are, you know, just today finding a mistrial in that.
00:32:53.480 So that took 18 months, give or take.
00:32:55.560 So it was New Year's Eve.
00:32:56.280 Now it's June.
00:32:57.460 Then you have but then you had other trials like Carmelo Anthony or Henry Novak in the UK system.
00:33:04.300 which seem to take place in, you know, relatively faster time,
00:33:08.260 is one of those differences because a death penalty trial just requires many more steps
00:33:12.860 and that everyone goes through their steps, like the judge here with his ruling today,
00:33:18.320 knowing that it will, in years to come, be going over with a fine-tooth comb.
00:33:24.480 Maybe. I think it's probably more about the volume of evidence, of relevant evidence,
00:33:29.000 and therefore the process of actually assembling it, bringing a case,
00:33:32.260 and dealing with all the counter-evidence.
00:33:33.720 This is, you know, the Kirk assassination. Obviously, there's just an enormous amount of different video evidence of the of the happening and all the evidence related to how Tyler Robinson was apprehended, all the physical evidence that we're talking about.
00:33:46.740 So it might have just been bigger. This also might be a function of the differences in legal systems, right?
00:33:51.000 Like how, you know, I mean, the UK might have be more efficient in its criminal prosecutions than we are.
00:33:55.280 That's something that's generally true. Their legal system, they tend to be a little bit less paperwork heavy.
00:33:59.040 so you know these things are these things can be take longer or short amounts of time for a variety
00:34:05.880 of reasons i wouldn't necessarily say um there's any particular focus because it's a death penalty
00:34:12.540 case i think uh you can do you can have fast death penalty cases if the evidence is kind of
00:34:18.220 clear and discreet here you know there's there's just a lot to go through i think that's probably
00:34:23.940 what's making this kind of a more prolonged process.
00:34:28.180 Well, that makes a lot of sense.
00:34:29.500 And certainly, either way, you know, we do know that there is going to be just so many,
00:34:37.020 and this is something that I've had to say to numerous people that, you know, if you
00:34:40.900 don't look at these things, you know, a death penalty case is something that is going to
00:34:45.380 live on and on and on and on, because we know that there will be appeals filed, that it
00:34:53.580 could go all the way to the United States Supreme Court.
00:34:56.580 You know, I'll think of the Jokar Zarnaev, the Boston bomber.
00:35:01.240 He's still on death row right now.
00:35:04.120 And that was 13 years ago when he placed a bomb in front of a five-year-old child
00:35:10.340 and blew him up at the, you know, near the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
00:35:16.580 That was April of 2013.
00:35:18.700 And he is still on death row.
00:35:21.800 His death penalty was rescinded at one point, but it was later reimposed.
00:35:26.720 I've kind of go back and forth following that.
00:35:30.060 And I believe his is, yes, his is federal as well.
00:35:33.600 And so, you know, you do need a Republican president to actually administer one of those.
00:35:39.840 That is something that a Democrat president will not do.
00:35:42.820 So you've only had the first four years of President Trump and now the second four years of President Trump where it could have been actually carried out.
00:35:51.820 And so what I mean to say, though, is that the system can be very, very long and arduous.
00:35:56.220 Now, at the same time, in a place like Utah at the state level, that is a place where it's known for actually being carried out quite a bit similar to the U.K. court, I guess, where the process is generally a little bit more straightforward.
00:36:11.580 Yeah, so I want to clarify a distinction.
00:36:14.140 Death penalty stuff is obviously going to take longer in terms of post-trial proceedings and the actual carrying out of the death sentence.
00:36:19.400 Like even for Tyler Robinson, we're talking, gosh, I mean, at least like I would suspect it'd be.
00:36:24.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:24.900 I meant post-trial.
00:36:26.240 I meant post-trial.
00:36:27.560 Yeah.
00:36:27.860 So, yeah, I mean, we're probably looking at like 10 years of post-trial litigation is what I would suspect in the Robinson case.
00:36:33.840 You know, and that's just the product of how our death penalty jurisprudence works.
00:36:38.600 I don't think that's a good thing.
00:36:39.640 I think our Supreme Court's really mucked it up and made it much harder to execute criminals convicted of murder than it should be, especially in cases where the death penalty is, in fact, imposed.
00:36:48.520 It just takes so long and justice delayed and just is justice denied in my view.
00:36:53.100 But, yeah, that that certainly will happen.
00:36:55.060 But I don't I guess the distinction that's important is to realize that doesn't necessarily apply in the in the trial context where the length of the trial.
00:37:03.380 Yeah, you're right.
00:37:05.260 I should clarify that.
00:37:06.980 Two two separate things.
00:37:08.260 I mean, my gosh, I'm I know I'm pulling up a few things here and, you know, it you know, it kind of depends.
00:37:14.240 you know it's sort of so since 1976 since it's been really i'm just pulling from wikipedia here
00:37:19.860 so you know uh since it has been reinstated oh it doesn't give me shoot it doesn't give me the
00:37:28.320 exact offense so the last person to be executed was a native american they were executed in 2024
00:37:35.080 for a murder a rape and murder that took place in 1998 so there you go almost 30 years of a delta
00:37:42.260 in between. So, I mean, these are things that do take their time. And to your point, Will,
00:37:49.420 I do believe also that justice delayed is justice denied. That was lethal injection. But the one
00:37:54.100 before that in 2010, Ronnie Lee Gardner, that was firing squad. So Utah does still have the firing
00:38:00.380 squad. That was 2010. And we should keep using it. Everybody should be using the firing squad.
00:38:04.940 Give Will Chamberlain a follow, the Article 3 project as well,
00:38:07.980 at Will Chamberlain. Jack Posobiec, right back for your segment here at Humano and Sally.
00:38:30.420 It's the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro
00:38:35.680 would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:38:38.580 And that is, I'll be honest.
00:38:44.640 To the ground and, ooh, that's a hand to the neck and then.
00:38:54.620 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live here at Human Events Daily.
00:38:58.080 And we are in our Friday segment, our question of the day.
00:39:02.600 Remember, on Fridays, you are the guest.
00:39:06.120 And so I'm going to be popping in here to the chat as well on Rumble and on Getter.
00:39:12.680 You might check out the X chat as well.
00:39:15.420 For some of you guys, you may have noticed that my son was on the X chat a couple of days ago here on the program.
00:39:23.220 And so he actually hopped on.
00:39:25.160 But today, today our question is about Caitlin Clark.
00:39:29.420 are the hit to Caitlin Clark's throat and the mocking of her examples of anti-white hate.
00:39:37.860 Email at 1776 at humanevents.com.
00:39:40.720 And if you hadn't seen the hit to the the hit, not just the hit to the throat, but also which which we can see right here.
00:39:49.160 And we know that she's faced a number of incidents like this since joining the WNBA, which to my mind, absolutely seem to be anti-white.
00:39:57.700 I do want to hear what you guys think of this.
00:39:59.420 But also that there was a meme posted by the Phoenix WNBA team, which I didn't even know existed, making fun of her to do a piece of this, mocking her for being on the ground and being assaulted by that individual.
00:40:16.360 And so this is obviously something that would be, I mean, we could all imagine what would happen if that were George Floyd and someone had posted, you know, an NBA or someone else had posted something like that.
00:40:30.440 So let me go to your emails again, 1776 at humanevents.com.
00:40:35.600 This one's in from Sadie. 0.83
00:40:37.120 It is absolutely anti-white. 0.62
00:40:38.820 The perpetrator should be permanently banned from the WNBA or whatever league that was. 0.72
00:40:43.000 This one's in from Allen.
00:40:44.040 Yes, they are. 1.00
00:40:44.740 We've also seen numerous other worse examples of the danger whites are in. 1.00
00:40:48.720 They won't stop until they're stopped. 0.98
00:40:50.180 Whites need to start showing courage and consciousness before they finally stand up for themselves or other whites. 0.93
00:40:55.760 Aaron says, yes, Caitlin Clark did the one thing that none of the other players ever do. 0.90
00:41:00.120 She brought value to the WNBA and the other players hate that a white person achieved that when the NBA is the opposite.
00:41:06.040 Stephanie says, yes, yes, yes. 0.94
00:41:08.740 Penny, the hits to Caitlin are definitely white hate racism. 0.93
00:41:12.240 The WNBA must take action against these actions.
00:41:15.300 As much as I like Caitlin to support the WNBA, I cannot watch the WNBA when it's not basketball. 1.00
00:41:20.560 It's pure hateful violence. 1.00
00:41:22.060 A one-game suspension does not slice the problem.
00:41:24.900 Absolutely does not.
00:41:25.940 One, anonymous. 1.00
00:41:27.260 She should quit before they paralyze her. 0.98
00:41:29.800 Definitely white hatred. 0.96
00:41:31.880 This went in from Margaret. 0.97
00:41:33.280 An example of hatred towards an intolerance of the white race, the Christian faith, heterosexuality. 1.00
00:41:39.840 Can Caitlin sue for assault? 0.99
00:41:41.120 Well, she certainly could.
00:41:42.240 Uh, this one in from Corey. Yes. And I'm tired of pretending it's not one in from Epsilon says, if she doesn't sue, if she doesn't sue or press charges, it's an example of suicidal empathy. This one in from Sandra because born free 11 to 23, because she's a beautiful straight woman is a problem. The WNBA, she should file assault charges. There's no room for this one in from sensei blaze. Thank you.
00:42:11.020 caitlin clark has been targeted because she is white she constantly faces assaults and the league 0.51
00:42:15.760 goes silent her eye was poked her face was hit she was knocked down scratched shoved attempted
00:42:19.960 stomping you name it sophie cunningham is the only help she's got it's enough and we've got many many 0.88
00:42:26.720 many more here someone uh this one in from dt davis says if she were a lesbian she wouldn't
00:42:31.980 nearly get the hate that she does it's the combination interesting point interesting point 1.00
00:42:36.180 there uh oh my gosh bird cheat writes good thing she didn't die of a fentanyl overdose or that
00:42:43.040 woman pushing her fist into caitlin's neck would go to prison for murder hmm wonder what that could
00:42:48.360 be referring to i have no idea check this out we got super fest on on x i think the wnba is an 1.00
00:42:56.620 utter disgrace let's go over here to rumble uh joe vx 700 so when do we remove the commie mayors
00:43:06.180 Terry Lee's sound keeps going out.
00:43:08.280 I hope the sound is working good for us.
00:43:11.040 Hopefully not.
00:43:12.380 Let's see.
00:43:14.960 Someone says, wishing everyone a happy Independence Day.
00:43:17.200 We're early, but you know what?
00:43:18.380 I will take it.
00:43:19.300 We must be Independence Day maxing.
00:43:24.220 Let's see.
00:43:25.000 What else?
00:43:25.360 What else?
00:43:25.640 What else?
00:43:25.980 What else?
00:43:27.580 Okay.
00:43:28.980 Sparky Glenn, 1962.
00:43:30.900 Where are her teammates defending her?
00:43:32.960 That's a great point.
00:43:33.700 Sacagawea writes where the heck are the referees Big Mac 270 says fatigue 13k Woods I don't think
00:43:43.620 it's racism but it's serious jealousy WNBA leaders practicing racism by not holding the other girls
00:43:49.040 responsible they're pulling a UK EU weak response fear of being called racist Dale Ross says hi Jack
00:43:55.560 what's up Dale Natayo says pure evil Sacagawea writes again last I knew basketball doesn't
00:44:03.360 encompass UFC fighting yeah I know right uh 1769 but they allow this the referees and coaches sue 0.98
00:44:11.300 them also uh Raider 208 they hate her because she kicks their butt nightly yeah that's exactly what
00:44:18.360 it's all about uh Sue K writes suspension for the season would be proper I agree with that
00:44:24.840 let's see that's uh should not be tolerated suspended suspended suspended a lot of people
00:44:29.820 are saying that a lot of people are saying that hey let's go over to get her let's go over to get 0.82
00:44:35.080 her uh watchman writes anti-white assault clearly wrong the wmba is racist um their race uh trisha
00:44:45.320 writes in yep racist they hate her because she's a better player than most of them uh mr sunshine
00:44:50.240 no transgenders in sports i don't know if anyone involved in this was trans but if someone was
00:44:56.140 Please let me know, because I do not keep track of such things.
00:45:00.260 And with the WNBA, what can I say?
00:45:02.560 Dare I misgender a WNBA player just because you're playing for the Women's National Basketball Association?
00:45:10.460 Dare I believe or assume to believe that that means that you were born a biological woman?
00:45:17.460 Far be it from me. 1.00
00:45:20.260 Mr. Sunshine adds, we need gender tests for the WNBA. 0.97
00:45:23.780 uh ducks says suspension for the season scotty ready says burka's for the wnba oh come on uh
00:45:32.200 burka's in the wnba that would be even worse remove all reason to play whatsoever um this
00:45:38.680 won't stop um jay withrow says it won't stop until the penalties are severe enough no that's
00:45:43.900 exactly right a one a one game penalty is just not long enough to be able to prevent stuff like
00:45:49.500 this you're gonna have you're gonna you're it's a slap on the wrist it's a slap on the wrist and
00:45:53.820 everyone knows it all right oh getting some more emails in popping over back to the email 1776
00:45:59.420 at humanevents.com 1776 at humanevents.com let's see clearly on purpose clearly a hate crime that's
00:46:06.960 from jennifer uh robert russell says we've become acclimated to see it all as entertainment we ask
00:46:16.040 for civility in an uncivilized segment of society profit and publicity thank you lord for president
00:46:21.080 trump i might also thank you jack well thank you robert i appreciate that was a nice message
00:46:25.360 let's see one from jessica watching the show and typing a quick response the attack against 0.99
00:46:30.380 caitlin clark is disgusting and despicable that players should be benched or removed from the
00:46:34.480 team not at all okay i think i saw someone post at one point that she shouldn't be allowed to fly 0.91
00:46:39.200 on the jet anymore that she should have to fly commercial for the rest of the season i think
00:46:42.740 That'd be good, too. Cheryl, Caitlin Clark should resign and sue the league for assault and physical abuse. 1.00
00:46:49.320 Vicky, she is being abused in the name of white hate. This needs to stop. 0.83
00:46:53.080 What did we white people do to deserve this? There has to be something done about this.
00:46:56.920 Those people need to be tried in court and get put in prison for assault.
00:47:00.860 Dolph writes in another prime example of anti-white hate should be kicked out of the league forever.
00:47:06.360 Well, you guys, you guys are fired up about this. I love this. 0.83
00:47:09.780 Ricky says DOJK, a civil rights investigation.
00:47:12.320 I believe there is one.
00:47:12.960 I believe Harmeet Dillon, if I remember correctly, had said that she's going to be looking into it.
00:47:18.060 And I certainly hope that she is because she's tough as nails and she's going to get to the bottom of whatever it is.
00:47:22.940 That's what Harmeet Dillon does.
00:47:24.560 That's why I'm that's why I support Harmeet Dillon.
00:47:28.240 Barb says, as much as I hate to say it, I believe it is. 0.63
00:47:31.160 They seem to hate that a straight white woman could be a better athlete than them. 0.71
00:47:35.000 And that's it. 1.00
00:47:39.340 got this last one in from oh wait 0.96
00:47:45.600 okay this oh from lani says that's assault and battery that she should be indicted for 1.00
00:47:52.500 criminal assault and battery is okay to have her fist on her throat so black on white crime is 1.00
00:47:56.260 okay you got chauvin sitting in prison for supposed white on black crime so white on black 0.98
00:48:00.860 is criminal beyond belief carmelo anthony etc etc guys great comments love everybody getting
00:48:07.060 active like this. I love spending these Fridays with all of you. Have a great weekend. Ladies
00:48:11.840 and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.