Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - MSM Melt Down Over South African Refugees Escaping White Genocide

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00:00:50.640 A festive atmosphere here in Tel Aviv as Israeli soldier Edan Alexander, an American citizen,

00:00:56.820 receives a hero's welcome after being freed by Hamas. 0.89

00:01:00.800 He was taken hostage during the October 7th attacks and held captive.

00:01:04.680 White South Africans have been granted refugee status by the Trump administration here in the U.S.

00:01:09.960 The administration has worked to speed up the refugee process for the Afrikaners.

00:01:15.000 The Trump administration has accused South Africans, black majority government, of violence and discrimination against them.

00:01:20.460 Now, if the Constitution in South Africa is discriminatory, they have their checks and balances in that land, just like we do.

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00:02:51.880 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live from Washington, D.C.

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00:03:03.200 Today is May 13th, 2025.

00:03:06.240 Anno, Domini.

00:03:07.480 Folks, the media is absolutely melting down over President Trump's refugee program for South Africans fleeing what many have called white genocide.

00:03:18.240 This idea that the Expropriation Act of 2024 in South Africa and the ongoing mass killings of white South African farmers, many of whom who have lived on the land for 400 years.

00:03:34.340 Keep in mind, 400 years.

00:03:35.680 This part of South Africa did not exist as a cultured land, as agribal land, arable land prior to their arrival 400 years ago.

00:03:49.140 And yet when President Trump has offered, by the way, this status has only come in for a couple of dozen people, the media is losing their minds.

00:03:58.320 And so the first group of them came to Washington, D.C. yesterday and incredible scenes where, when's the last time, by the way, you saw refugees coming from somewhere who were flying the American flag, who were waving it, who were saying that they were happy to come here, saying that they were happy to be here.

00:04:19.120 You know, this is something where, by the way, over 67,000 South Africans have expressed interest in this.

00:04:26.000 Of course, Stephen Miller, Elon Musk have talked about it.

00:04:28.820 And the welcome at Dulles International Airport yesterday has gone viral.

00:04:33.700 By the way, these are competent workers, people who know how to grow food, who are, by the way, actually facing direct death, slaughter, brutal killing.

00:04:46.460 At the hands of forces backed by their own government.

00:04:49.660 And yet, for some reason, the media is upset at President Trump for allowing them to come in.

00:04:56.540 Well, folks, all I have to say is real refugees welcome.

00:05:01.780 We'll be right back.

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00:06:35.640 Very excited to welcome on now.

00:06:37.400 We've got my brother and also the, I guess, international correspondent for Human Events Daily, Kevin Posobiec,

00:06:45.880 who was there with us in Rome as the conclave was held, which resulted in the election of Pope Leo XIV, a shock choice.

00:06:59.160 Kevin, you were actually there on top of St. Peter's Basilica as the Pope was making his entrance, even before that, before his name was read off.

00:07:13.740 Kevin, put the audience in your seat from your vantage point from being able to be up there.

00:07:20.500 We've got this stunning footage that you've been able to combine together.

00:07:25.040 Tell people what it was like.

00:07:27.540 Well, Jack, it was a lot like the mixture of Christmas morning plus being at a New Year's Eve ball drop plus the Olympics plus a kid in a candy store.

00:07:39.620 Honestly, as a Catholic, you couldn't really ask for much better.

00:07:44.700 We both got press credentials through the Holy See press office.

00:07:49.840 There's an actual building just right down the block in the Vatican City.

00:07:54.500 And, yeah, that was one of the locations that we were designated to broadcast from.

00:08:00.560 And as you can see, those are those are my pictures.

00:08:04.420 I was able to witness it.

00:08:06.560 The Abemos Papam and the first address to the citizens of Rome from Pope Leo XIV.

00:08:14.600 It was, I mean, a gorgeous day, a few clouds in the sky.

00:08:18.940 I mean, you couldn't ask for much better.

00:08:22.200 It was a picture perfect moment.

00:08:23.980 And it was very, very humbling for me personally.

00:08:28.380 And just, you know, really filled with joy because unlike, you know, an American election where we had two frontrunners,

00:08:37.060 we had, what, 133 to choose from.

00:08:41.420 So I was just overwhelmed with joy, really, when it actually came through because we didn't know, you know, again, unlike an American election,

00:08:51.280 there wasn't a set date when it would be or who it would be.

00:08:56.480 So, yeah, it was just, yeah, really, really glad to be there and just beside myself.

00:09:02.940 So, Kev, for the folks who weren't able to be there, just tell us what all you could see from your vantage point.

00:09:15.340 Are you able to see the Pope?

00:09:17.280 Was he far away?

00:09:18.500 Were you able to see the crowd?

00:09:20.300 What, you know, what was it really like up there?

00:09:23.780 Well, it was, so I was about maybe 200 feet away from the Lodgia, I believe it's called,

00:09:30.040 the main balcony where he gave his address.

00:09:34.960 So probably, I don't know, maybe 75 feet in the air.

00:09:40.180 And, yeah, I could see the entire crowd.

00:09:44.860 There's thousands upon thousands of people.

00:09:47.540 And, yeah, I could see on either side of the Pope, there were alternate balconies with all the other cardinals,

00:09:55.120 law lined up, all in full regalia, full vestments, I should say.

00:10:00.880 I don't want to mix up the terminology there too much.

00:10:05.540 Yeah, I could see everybody.

00:10:06.920 I could see the Vatican marching band, the entire Swiss Guard, you know, in formation.

00:10:12.900 It was very, very traditional.

00:10:16.700 Everyone was lined up very formally.

00:10:19.000 You could see the traditional flag draped, and notably, Pope Leo XIV came out in the traditional vestments.

00:10:27.760 So a very good sign and a very good, you know, reception from the Latin mass community

00:10:35.840 in that he did this compared to Pope Francis, who came out very minimalistically in just white.

00:10:44.080 So, yeah, it was very, very memorable.

00:10:50.260 And, you know, he said the beginning in Italian, and throughout the rest of the weekend,

00:10:59.140 he came out and said the Regina Chaley in Latin.

00:11:03.140 And, you know, it's just a win.

00:11:06.480 So it's just a great win so far.

00:11:08.220 And I know, you know, the Real America's Voice community and maybe the War Room Posse too,

00:11:16.020 they're a bit critical, as am I.

00:11:18.820 But, you know, as I was saying earlier, that we didn't really know and we still don't know.

00:11:25.980 It hasn't been but a week since he's been elected.

00:11:28.440 So, you know, just keep the prayers coming for him and for what he has to do for this great papacy

00:11:37.060 and just the weight of all of it.

00:11:40.860 You know, we could go into the details and all the criticisms, but, you know, just off the bat,

00:11:46.480 like being there, witnessing it, it was just a great celebratory kind of moment.

00:11:52.600 And, you know, it just made me proud to be Catholic, really.

00:11:55.960 Yeah, I got to ask, man, you know, for a couple of guys who grew up on Powell Street,

00:11:59.520 you know, our Philadelphia Archdiocese out of Norristown,

00:12:02.960 did you ever think that we would be, you know, there at the conclave of a pope in Rome itself?

00:12:10.100 That's right, Jack.

00:12:11.080 Two Polish guys, our first jobs were in an Italian bakery in Delhi

00:12:15.420 and now we're at the, you know, the top of the top of it.

00:12:19.420 You were literally at the top.

00:12:20.560 In the middle of Rome during the election of the pope.

00:12:23.720 Go figure.

00:12:24.420 No, it's especially, I remember, you know, all those Sunday mornings

00:12:29.540 where mom's sitting there going, you know, get your shoes on, get your suit on, 1.00

00:12:34.200 get ready for mass, it's time to get to mass.

00:12:36.280 And we're like, oh, come on, mom, do we got to go, do we got to go?

00:12:39.640 And now, you know, you look where we are all these years later

00:12:42.700 and it's like we're the ones trying to tell people they need to go to church

00:12:46.780 and they need to start going back to Jesus.

00:12:48.580 And it's funny the way things work out the way you least expect sometimes.

00:12:54.700 That's all I got to say.

00:12:56.860 It sure is.

00:12:58.200 And, you know, for what it's worth, I mean, in the week since,

00:13:02.640 I've spoken with many, many traditional Catholics, young and old,

00:13:07.780 and the verse that keeps coming up is Matthew 10, 16, which states,

00:13:12.400 Behold, I am sending you like sheep in the midst of wolves.

00:13:16.380 So be shrewd as serpents and simple as doves.

00:13:20.340 Well, I've heard that going around too.

00:13:22.100 Yes, absolutely.

00:13:23.860 Yeah.

00:13:24.180 Yeah.

00:13:24.300 So, I mean, as Catholics, we're called to be more obedient towards what the Pope will say.

00:13:32.980 But as Americans, I mean, hey, our nature is rebellion

00:13:35.720 and we have freedom of speech to criticize and just really just brainstorm things.

00:13:44.560 And we could go on and on for hours, as I am in other group chats.

00:13:48.380 But, you know.

00:13:49.680 Oh, your chats have been going for sure.

00:13:50.740 And we've been going around D.C.

00:13:55.240 and even a few high offices in the D.C. area as well just earlier today

00:14:00.060 talking about these very same conversations.

00:14:03.640 But I do think, and I would agree with you,

00:14:05.740 I think that this election of the new Pope, you know, we'll pray for him.

00:14:10.700 We hope that it turns out well.

00:14:11.940 But hopefully at the end of all of this, it leads to people turning back to God.

00:14:18.420 Kevin Posobiec, where can people go to follow you, man?

00:14:21.720 You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Kevin Posobiec.

00:14:25.640 And, yeah, just real quick, I want to say how I agree with you, too,

00:14:30.000 that I think Trump and Pope Leo XIV should get together sooner than later

00:14:35.400 and accelerate their relationship.

00:14:37.560 Maybe even Catholic convert J.D. Vance, our vice president.

00:14:41.320 I would love to see him over in Rome.

00:14:42.980 What do you think, folks?

00:14:43.680 Send us an email, 1776 at humanevents.com.

00:14:46.620 Should J.D. Vance head to Rome?

00:14:48.980 Jack Posobiec, right back, Human Events.

00:14:50.740 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.

00:14:58.200 These are influencers.

00:15:00.080 And they're friends of mine.

00:15:02.460 Jack Posobiec.

00:15:04.000 Where's Jack?

00:15:04.880 Jack.

00:15:05.240 He's got a great job.

00:15:07.700 Oh, my God.

00:15:09.020 Charlie Kirk show on the Salem Radio Network and the audience there.

00:15:13.820 We've got now coming up because this is something we've been talking about for a while,

00:15:17.640 but it bears repeating, and we need to hammer down on this as we move through 2025 and into 2026.

00:15:24.200 And that is the conduct of Senator Tom Tillis as well as Senator John Cornyn and these other rhinos out there 1.00

00:15:31.780 and what they did to the combination fight for Ed Martin.

00:15:35.800 And Kenny Cody, the opinion editor of humanevents.com, joins us now.

00:15:39.920 Kenny, walk us through your new piece.

00:15:41.960 I mean, it just basically calls out these establishment, these Republicans that are still stifling the MAGA agenda.

00:15:48.240 I mean, you have Tom Tillis, who opposed Ed Martin's nomination for the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia,

00:15:54.420 where the most corruption in our entire nation consists of, I mean, rooting out the deep state,

00:16:00.220 rooting against these establishment politicians,

00:16:01.840 and trying to root out that corruption has been one of the main focuses of the MAGA agenda

00:16:06.260 and one of the main focuses of the Trump administration.

00:16:07.820 And for some reason, Tom Tillis, James Lankford, John Cornyn,

00:16:11.480 all of these establishment Republicans who want to cozy up to Trump and the MAGA movement

00:16:17.380 whenever they want to run for the re-election campaigns and primaries,

00:16:20.240 but yet oppose somebody like Ed Martin, who has been a beacon of the MAGA agenda,

00:16:24.680 has been a beacon of the America First movement.

00:16:26.520 For some reason, we want to oppose those.

00:16:28.720 We want to oppose Ed Martin.

00:16:30.000 We want to oppose tariffs.

00:16:31.180 We want to oppose, you know, the lowering of pharmaceutical drugs and their impact on the country,

00:16:38.260 but yet we want to cozy up to Donald Trump and the MAGA base when they want to run for re-election.

00:16:42.920 This is exactly why MAGA was started.

00:16:44.720 It was not just a war on the establishment left.

00:16:47.320 It was not just a war on the deep state.

00:16:49.300 It was a war amongst the establishment Republicans that control Washington, D.C.,

00:16:53.820 and that was going to start by putting Ed Martin there,

00:16:57.020 Ed Martin there as the U.S. Attorney in that position.

00:16:59.380 But yet we have to settle and place Ed Martin somewhere else in the DOJ,

00:17:03.620 which I'm sure he will do an amazing job at because of opposition from neocon establishment Republicans

00:17:09.220 like Tom Tillis, like James Lankford, and like John Cornyn.

00:17:13.120 And so let me give you the pushback on this that I get from the media all the time.

00:17:19.580 They say, and what's your response, where they say, well, what if a more conservative candidate wins the primary,

00:17:26.360 but then is it safe to say that they can win the general as well,

00:17:30.940 or would that create more of a vulnerability for Republicans in the general election?

00:17:35.920 What would you say to that?

00:17:37.820 Look at the states where these establishment Republicans are at.

00:17:40.440 Look, I understand the argument for Susan Collins.

00:17:42.960 She's one of the only people that I even somewhat can see that argument for.

00:17:46.100 But we're talking about North Carolina.

00:17:47.640 A state Donald Trump has won all three times.

00:17:49.340 We're talking about Oklahoma, the most dominant Trump state in the 2016, 2020, and 2024 elections,

00:17:55.120 and a state like Texas that everybody's saying, well, Texas is going to go purple and never comes close.

00:18:00.200 These three dominantly red states are where these rhinos thrive.

00:18:04.960 You know, in states like North Carolina, it can at least be viewed as somewhat of a swing state,

00:18:08.720 even though Trump's won it overwhelmingly all three times he's ran.

00:18:11.560 But Oklahoma and Texas, there are absolutely no arguments.

00:18:14.460 And we're not talking about somebody who's going to cost Trump a state when he's went literally nine and zero

00:18:19.860 in all these states where we have these rhino establishment Republicans deriving from. 0.92

00:18:24.340 Look, I don't understand if this was, like I said, a state like Maine that is a solid blue state.

00:18:29.800 There's a Republican senator there.

00:18:31.240 I still think we should hold Susan Collins accountable.

00:18:33.460 And maybe we should run somebody against her in order to at least hold her accountable to the MAGA base 0.92

00:18:37.340 that still votes in those Republican primaries.

00:18:39.500 But in states like Oklahoma, North Carolina, and Texas, where the MAGA base literally decides elections,

00:18:46.160 they decide primaries, they decide to give the states all to Donald Trump,

00:18:49.640 especially in North Carolina, especially in Texas,

00:18:51.800 because we have to ensure that we are getting people there who are right and America first.

00:18:57.220 And, Kenny, President Trump has been talking about these nation builders and these neocons.

00:19:02.600 He just said something in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

00:19:05.180 Guys, let's play that clip right now.

00:19:07.140 In the end, the so-called nation builders wrecked far more nations than they built, 0.96

00:19:12.240 and the interventionalists were intervening in complex societies that they did not even understand themselves.

00:19:21.320 Peace, prosperity, and progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of your heritage,

00:19:27.400 but rather from embracing your national traditions and embracing that same heritage that you love.

00:19:33.820 You know, Kenny, we just got a minute until the break, but, I mean, that really sums it up, isn't it?

00:19:38.180 These senators are still operating in that old model, aren't they?

00:19:42.220 They are, and they embolden issues like amnesty when it comes to illegal immigration.

00:19:46.620 They don't want to embrace mass deportation.

00:19:48.820 They want to embrace forever wars.

00:19:50.540 They continue to nation build and benefit off the military-industrial complex.

00:19:54.420 These are the same Republicans that have voted for war for 20 years,

00:19:57.780 the same Republicans who have voted for amnesty for 20 years,

00:20:00.240 and the same Republicans who embolden the establishment rather than the MAGA base,

00:20:03.880 and that's exactly what we want to reject as the America First movement.

00:20:06.820 Kenny, we've got to run.

00:20:07.680 We are going to South Africa for our next segment.

00:20:10.780 Where can people follow you, brother?

00:20:12.400 At KDCO10 on Twitter, and always find me at humanevents.com in the opinion section of our website.

00:20:17.560 All right, go follow him, folks.

00:20:20.320 KennyCodyHumanevents.com and all of his writings.

00:20:23.040 Dr. Ernst Rutz comes up next.

00:20:25.260 Huge story, South Africa.

00:20:27.280 It's everywhere.

00:20:27.920 Stay tuned.

00:20:28.660 Jack Posobiec, Human Events.

00:20:30.240 And Jack, where's Jack?

00:20:47.440 Where's Jack?

00:20:49.540 Where is he?

00:20:50.840 Jack, I want to see you.

00:20:54.480 Great job, Jack.

00:20:56.020 Thank you.

00:20:56.560 What a job you do.

00:20:58.200 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:20:59.400 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting policies.

00:21:06.640 Jack Posobiec back live, rainy, cloudy, Washington, D.C.

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00:22:29.480 I want to set up our next interview here, but first I'd like to play a clip from President Trump yesterday speaking about South Africa.

00:22:38.480 Why are you creating an expedited path into the country for Afrikaners but not others? 0.78

00:22:44.120 Because they're being killed, and we don't want to see people be killed.

00:22:48.400 It's a genocide that's taking place that you people don't want to write about, but it's a terrible thing that's taking place.

00:22:54.520 And farmers are being killed.

00:22:58.820 They happen to be white, but whether they're white or black makes no difference to me. 0.88

00:23:04.100 Television media doesn't even talk about it.

00:23:06.360 If it were the other way around, they'd talk about it.

00:23:08.460 That would be the only story they'd talk about.

00:23:10.280 And I don't care who they are.

00:23:13.460 I don't care about their race, their color.

00:23:15.540 I don't care about their height, their weight.

00:23:17.420 I don't care about anything.

00:23:18.400 I just know that what's happening is terrible.

00:23:21.020 I have people that live in South Africa.

00:23:23.420 They say it's a terrible situation taking place.

00:23:25.580 So we've essentially extended citizenship to those people to escape from that violence and come here. 0.68

00:23:34.320 All right, Jack Rosovic, we are back.

00:23:37.580 That's President Trump saying there is a genocide going on in Africa, particularly of farmers who happen to be white.

00:23:45.860 I would love to now bring on a longtime guest here on the program, someone who's written about this persecution, written about these issues extensively.

00:23:54.600 We've done events together.

00:23:55.960 It's Dr. Ernst Rutz.

00:23:57.360 He is the executive director of the Pioneer Initiative, and he rejoins us once again on human events.

00:24:04.140 Dr. Rutz, how are you?

00:24:05.980 Thank you very much for having me on.

00:24:07.780 I'm doing well, Jack.

00:24:08.640 Last time we spoke, I was in Washington, D.C., in your studio, and it's good to speak to you now from my house in Pretoria, in South Africa.

00:24:16.100 All right, so you're joining us from South Africa.

00:24:18.740 Now, the media tells us that this persecution, it's all made up.

00:24:22.800 It's all figment of our imagination, that it's not going on whatsoever,

00:24:27.340 which is interesting because this is the same media that demands that the United States take in every single other person who declares asylum from all different parts of the world.

00:24:38.420 So walk me through this.

00:24:40.420 Why are they so upset at President Trump speaking out on South Africa and allowing these? 1.00

00:24:46.920 I mean, it's only been a couple of dozen migrants or a couple of dozen refugees, I should say, that have been let in.

00:24:52.440 Why has it ignited such a media firestorm?

00:24:56.520 Well, let me firstly say if what's happening in South Africa could not be described as persecution,

00:25:02.740 I'm not sure what persecution is, because what we are seeing in South Africa is minority communities,

00:25:09.280 especially the Afrikaner people, being targeted in a variety of ways.

00:25:13.860 We spoke about this before on your show, more than 140 race laws in South Africa discriminating against minorities.

00:25:20.180 We have attempts by the government or a process by the government to change the constitution,

00:25:25.120 to empower the government or the state to expropriate or confiscate private property without compensation.

00:25:31.440 And they've made it very clear that they want to do this on a race basis.

00:25:34.820 We have the farm attacks happening, the brutal farm attacks and the murders. 0.95

00:25:38.020 We have politicians chanting about murdering and exterminating minorities.

00:25:41.940 And they're being protected by the president, by the ruling party and by the courts.

00:25:46.320 And we have all of these things happening.

00:25:47.720 We have politicians calling on the Afrikaner people to leave South Africa.

00:25:51.720 So if this doesn't point to some form of persecution, I don't know what does.

00:25:55.640 But I think to answer your question, I think the reason why people are so upset about this

00:26:01.160 is because a particular narrative was created with regard to South Africa.

00:26:05.420 And it's especially strong when it comes to South Africa, because in the 90s,

00:26:09.700 South Africa was held up as this beacon of hope and evidence that the globalist experiment would work.

00:26:16.800 Because South Africa is very big.

00:26:18.400 It's basically a region, the southern part of Africa to an extent,

00:26:22.540 that historically was a variety of countries.

00:26:25.720 It was added together into one big country that's twice the size of Texas.

00:26:31.160 But it's inhabited by a wide variety of communities and so forth.

00:26:35.220 And the idea was that we must do something very comparable to what they are trying to do with the European Union,

00:26:41.460 is to have this one big central government over this vast territory.

00:26:44.720 And everyone is just governed as if there are no differences between communities,

00:26:48.900 as if there are no cultural differences, language differences, something like the Tower of Babel.

00:26:54.200 But it's not working.

00:26:55.760 And to point out that it's not working really goes to the heart of this ideology,

00:27:01.060 because you could rightly say South Africa is the DEI capital of the world.

00:27:05.540 And now it's exposed for the whole world to see that this DEI capital is a failure.

00:27:10.040 Well, and let's drill down on the specific issue as well that President Trump is talking about.

00:27:16.560 And it really is this issue of the farm murders,

00:27:19.520 which has been going on for a decade or more in South Africa, as far as I know.

00:27:24.840 And I'm no expert on this, but I read things.

00:27:27.880 I've seen documentaries on this.

00:27:30.240 And I have people in South Africa who tell me that, yes, like yourself and others who come on the show and say,

00:27:36.920 yes, this is absolutely what's happening.

00:27:38.960 And we thank President Trump.

00:27:40.620 And yet the government of South Africa, I believe even the current president, has come out and said,

00:27:44.600 no, none of this is happening.

00:27:45.900 The Expropriation Act isn't real.

00:27:47.920 Taking the land, it's not real.

00:27:49.440 And yet I look at this and it seems very real to me, especially when you look and hear some of these just nightmarish,

00:27:59.320 hellish stories about what's going on on some of these farms.

00:28:02.600 So walk me through the truth of it.

00:28:04.780 So there are two ways I can answer that.

00:28:07.460 The one is by giving you the statistics, which is that over a period of two decades,

00:28:13.900 according to police statistics in South Africa, so that's the government statistics,

00:28:17.720 there were on average two farm attacks happening every day and two murders happening during these attacks every week.

00:28:27.080 But the other way of explaining to you how bad it is is to tell you personal stories.

00:28:31.840 So I grew up in an agricultural community.

00:28:34.460 I remember one morning we were in church one Sunday when someone ran into the congregation

00:28:39.100 informing someone that his wife who stayed at home that day, who was an elderly lady, was murdered.

00:28:45.240 Her throat was slit while we were in church.

00:28:48.420 I remember another friend of ours who was paralyzed because he was attacked on his farm.

00:28:54.380 He was shot through his spine.

00:28:56.400 He was paralyzed for the rest of his life.

00:28:58.820 I remember a friend of mine who I went to school with who was murdered on a farm shortly after finishing high school.

00:29:05.460 My own brother was attacked.

00:29:06.920 My brother was attacked and held hostage on a small holding just close to Johannesburg.

00:29:14.320 A cousin of my father was stoned on a farm.

00:29:21.120 And after she was stoned, from what we know, she was still alive when they pierced a garden fork through her head.

00:29:27.760 And so these are just stories.

00:29:29.480 And there are more.

00:29:29.960 I can tell you more stories of people I knew who have been attacked or murdered.

00:29:34.440 And this is just my personal frame of reference.

00:29:37.120 This is not even statistics.

00:29:38.800 Now, you can go to another agricultural community in South Africa and you will hear the same type of stories.

00:29:43.660 There's hardly a farmer in South Africa that doesn't know someone who was attacked or killed on a farm or who hasn't been attacked themselves.

00:29:49.520 And now to see the type of comments coming from some media outlets in America about this being a non-issue and these people are just racists and they're lying about what's happening.

00:30:02.940 If you've lived through these things, if you've went to do funerals of friends of yours who have been murdered and then you hear people, journalists and commentators trying to present this as a non-existing issue, it really is alarming.

00:30:17.060 And for the left to be so obsessed about offensiveness and not doing things or saying things that others could interpret or regard as offensive, this is an extremely offensive position to take.

00:30:30.540 And I have to ask, so in the face of all this violence, this horrific criminality, what has been the response of the government of South Africa?

00:30:40.440 Well, the response is mixed.

00:30:42.980 It depends on the context in which they respond.

00:30:45.920 In some cases, we have heard members of the South African government justify these murders, saying things like the farmers abuse their workers.

00:30:57.140 It's a typical, you know, socialist line.

00:30:59.260 It's because these people are bad employers and therefore the workers go out and kill them.

00:31:04.680 When, ironically, government's own research on this has found that it's about 1% of cases of farm attacks or farm murders where the motivation has some form of a labor-related cause.

00:31:16.100 So, in some cases, you hear government officials justifying this.

00:31:20.460 You, I mean, you spoke about Julius Malema, and I believe I see he's on the screen now, and that the chanting of the kill the boer, kill the farmer chant, the South African Human Rights Commission, that is supposed to keep the South African government in check, has ruled on this chant, this kill the boer, kill the farmer chant, saying that it is not hate speech to chant this.

00:31:40.160 And the reason why it's not hate speech is when someone is accused of hate speech, an important variable that you have to consider is the race of the person that is being accused.

00:31:51.660 And because this person is a black person who's chanting kill the boer, we have to recognize that he is black, and therefore it's not hate speech, which is an extremely racist and bizarre comment.

00:32:03.420 As far as the president of South Africa is concerned, his official position in the United States, when he visited New York in 2018, and there are video clips of this online, he was asked about these attacks, and his response was, there are no farm murders happening.

00:32:18.620 His official position seems to be that the problem doesn't exist, which, again, is very alarming.

00:32:24.800 And it's quite bizarre to see them responding in such a way to the actions by the United States government and by President Trump, when it was, it's so obvious that some form of intervention needs to happen, and that this has just gone too far.

00:32:41.260 There has to be, something needs to happen, and people, it was just a matter of time before people started to speak out, and we are very happy that President Trump was willing to break that barrier and open up this conversation.

00:32:53.300 And it's something that he was able to do in his first administration as well, not quite to this extent, but I know that he certainly brought it up quite a number of times to allow people to look into it.

00:33:03.740 And by the way, the international community had no problem talking about South Africa throughout the 60s, the 70s, and into the 80s.

00:33:10.780 And the 90s was a huge cause celeb with the election of Mandela, and yet here we are all these years later, and the problems still remain, and yet the international community is completely silent.

00:33:21.860 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily.

00:33:24.280 We're on with Dr. Ernst Rutz talking about President Trump's new South Africa program.

00:33:29.120 We'll be right back.

00:33:39.880 Jack is a great guy.

00:33:41.460 He's written a fantastic book.

00:33:43.120 Everybody's talking about it.

00:33:44.360 Go get it.

00:33:45.480 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:33:48.960 And we're going to turn it around and make sure we're going to be quite a good day.

00:33:52.680 Amen.

00:33:57.380 This is the controversial slogan that got many people, in particular, white people, upset and venting their anger on social media platforms against economic freedom fighters.

00:34:11.640 One prominent figure was Elon Musk, and this is his tweet.

00:34:16.300 He tweeted,

00:34:17.540 They are openly pushing for genocide of white people in South Africa.

00:34:22.320 Cyril Ramaphosa, why do you say nothing?

00:34:25.820 Soon after Musk tweeted, Malema replied with this,

00:34:30.180 Which translates directly into,

00:34:34.720 These conversations led to many more joining in.

00:34:40.520 The chant, 1.00

00:34:42.300 Kill the boor, kill the farmer, 0.98

00:34:44.440 Was popularized in the 1990s by Peter Mokaba, 0.98

00:34:48.720 A former youth leader of the African National Congress.

00:34:51.840 All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back.

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00:36:12.880 We're back on with Dr. Ernst Rutz from the Pioneer Initiative.

00:36:18.660 He's the executive director in South Africa.

00:36:21.060 He's telling us the truth about South Africa

00:36:23.220 That our mainstream media and the Associated Press just simply won't do.

00:36:27.040 Now, Dr. Rutz, we're looking at all of these issues.

00:36:30.160 President Trump's got his program out there.

00:36:33.280 We know there's obviously 5 million whites in all of South Africa.

00:36:37.660 Now, not all of them, I believe, of course, would apply for this refugee program.

00:36:43.480 But when it comes down to it, for those of you who are still living there,

00:36:48.180 What really can be done to protect in the face of all of this persecution?

00:36:54.940 Well, thank you.

00:36:55.880 And I'm happy that you asked that,

00:36:57.460 Because it's a good thing for people who want to leave to be able to leave.

00:37:01.760 And a lot of people have good reason for leaving.

00:37:04.140 And there are different reasons why people would leave.

00:37:06.080 But it certainly is the case that the majority of us would stay in South Africa.

00:37:10.980 Because we're a nation that was shaped and molded in South Africa.

00:37:15.080 Africa is part of our DNA.

00:37:17.260 And we've been here for centuries.

00:37:19.900 We've been in Africa since before the USA became a country.

00:37:23.660 We've been here for hundreds of years.

00:37:25.520 And so we need to work towards solutions.

00:37:28.140 And I would say the answer to your question lies on two levels.

00:37:32.240 You might say on a micro level and a macro level.

00:37:34.500 And the micro level or the everyday, tangible, practical level implies our communities being well organized,

00:37:43.340 being armed, having radio contacts, being trained to use our firearms to be able to defend ourselves,

00:37:50.360 and to build strong institutions.

00:37:52.700 And this is a fundamentally important part.

00:37:55.060 But then on a macro level, and this is something that I will be very actively involved with from now on,

00:38:01.200 we need to push for what you might call dispensational change in South Africa.

00:38:06.940 And what I mean by that is we need a different, a better political system.

00:38:12.280 Because what's happening in South Africa is facilitated by a political system that is completely detached from reality,

00:38:20.900 as we mentioned earlier in this interview.

00:38:23.120 And what we need is a political system in South Africa that is decentralized,

00:38:28.340 that has a much weaker central government, if any central government at all,

00:38:33.320 and much stronger self-governance for communities.

00:38:38.500 South Africa is very diverse.

00:38:39.900 South Africa as a country is more diverse than the whole of Western Europe.

00:38:44.540 And we need self-governance because there are a variety of communities,

00:38:47.440 the Afrikaners being one in many.

00:38:49.800 And if these communities are not able to govern themselves,

00:38:53.100 to make laws that apply to their own people,

00:38:55.740 to decide on how their own affairs are run,

00:38:58.080 how their own tax money is spent, and so forth,

00:39:00.520 we are going to continue to have problems like these.

00:39:04.040 And I would really encourage your viewers,

00:39:06.440 if they want to support, to support this pioneer initiative of ours,

00:39:10.780 which is really aimed at pushing for a more sustainable political dispensation in South Africa.

00:39:17.380 It's, as far as I'm concerned, the most important thing that we need to push for right now.

00:39:22.120 Well, and at the end of the day,

00:39:23.040 what you're talking about is simply the same thing that was talked about for so many others

00:39:28.280 in many other Western countries in the idea of the protection of the rights of the minority,

00:39:34.320 which is clearly what the Boers and the white South Africans are.

00:39:39.920 Dr. Rutz, where can people go to follow you and get more information on this very important topic?

00:39:44.760 Thank you very much.

00:39:46.060 And once again, thank you for having me on.

00:39:47.760 So I'm on social media.

00:39:49.260 I'm on X and on Facebook and on YouTube under my own name, Aaron Strutz.

00:39:55.880 But other than that, people can go to the Pioneer Initiative.

00:39:59.960 The website is pioneeringitiative.org.za.

00:40:04.280 ZA is the abbreviation for South Africa.

00:40:06.640 So pioneeringitiative.org.za.

00:40:08.440 All right, we'll keep that in the comments as well.

00:40:10.760 This is Jack Posobiec, ladies and gentlemen.

00:40:12.520 As always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

00:40:14.400 We'll see you next time.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 13, 2025

MSM Melt Down Over South African Refugees Escaping White Genocide

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