Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Narrative Shattered： The Pretti Hoax Has Been Blown Wide Open

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00:00:50.680 Marco Rubio appeared before Congress today

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00:01:56.100 New York Times reporting President Trump and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer are close to reaching a deal to negotiate possible new restrictions on immigration agents.

00:02:05.240 It comes after Democrats threatened to partially shut down the government by blocking funds for Homeland Security amid outrage over the fatal shootings of Alex Preddy and Renee Good by federal agents.

00:02:15.480 Democrats are demanding new rules on warrants and personal identification, and they want to ban agents from wearing face masks.

00:02:22.180 No more anonymous agents, no more secret operatives.

00:02:27.420 Meanwhile, new video appears to show Alex Preddy 11 days before he was shot kicking a federal vehicle.

00:02:35.100 Agents are seen tackling him to the ground and he walks away, a gun visible on his waistband.

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00:02:52.180 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. 0.99

00:03:01.620 We're here back in Washington, D.C., and don't let our B-roll deceive you because it is a snowy, icy, freezing cold Washington, D.C.

00:03:15.600 The roads here are terrible. I have no idea who's in charge of this. It's absolute chaos on the streets.

00:03:22.180 But one thing where there's even more chaos is in the narrative in Minneapolis that it was completely shattered yesterday.

00:03:30.780 Today is January 29th, 2026.

00:03:32.720 Anno Domini.

00:03:33.520 Joining me here in studio is Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, a.k.a. the Raw Egg Nationalist.

00:03:39.700 What's up, Brad?

00:03:40.340 It's great to be with you again, Jack.

00:03:41.900 So let me ask you this.

00:03:43.600 We see this video.

00:03:44.760 And, guys, as we're chatting, you know, throw up the B-roll a little bit of this.

00:03:48.040 This new video of Alex Peretti brought to us, verified by the BBC of all places, you know, very strange there.

00:03:57.980 This completely destroys the narrative, doesn't it?

00:04:01.460 That they were trying to say that this individual was some peaceful nurse rendering aid.

00:04:06.780 He was merely there for on the side of the angels.

00:04:10.140 And so many people lied about this.

00:04:12.900 And I think we need to really spend the entire episode talking about all of them.

00:04:16.160 Yeah, I think we should. I mean, it's yet again, it's vindication of our instincts,

00:04:23.880 our basic instincts. You know, we, as soon as that first footage came out of the shooting,

00:04:28.280 it's like, no, this, this guy, this isn't his first rodeo. This guy is, this guy is

00:04:34.160 obviously not just a bystander. He's obviously not just a good Samaritan who tried to intervene,

00:04:40.100 you know, to help a woman who was being heinously attacked by, you know, by immigration agents.

00:04:45.480 No, this guy is a violent person, is obviously a violent person, is probably a professional to some degree, has probably done this kind of thing before.

00:04:57.500 Nope, it was denied until leftists and anti-Trump people were blue in the face and then look what happens.

00:05:04.820 We get confirmation that this is actually an unpleasant person.

00:05:10.340 This was a deeply unpleasant person, you know, he's spitting at immigration agents.

00:05:15.160 And there's something, I'll say this to me, even in that first footage, there's something in the eyes, there's something in the bearing that I've seen before at so many of these Antifa riots, at so many of these situations where, you know, you just know, you've seen it a million times.

00:05:34.860 this look the rigidity the way he squares up the way he launches himself at the officers when they

00:05:43.120 first arrive and people want to play this game of the freeze frame game i call it where they they

00:05:49.640 just go through bit by bit like it's a brooder film and you can you know but that's not what

00:05:53.820 it's like in reality there's the sirens and the shrill whistles and i actually have one of the

00:05:59.680 whistles i'll have it home i should have grabbed it um and and this cacophony of sounds created

00:06:06.120 by the agitators to escalate the tensions on the ground keep in mind that these agents are not going

00:06:15.420 around looking for protesters they're going around sweeping for illegal aliens well look i mean

00:06:22.320 with the renee good case then what did we see afterwards we saw the shooting for various

00:06:28.940 different angles but we also saw we also saw footage of renee good's wife saying i didn't

00:06:35.660 believe you had real bullets i thought you didn't have real bullets they're there to escalate of

00:06:42.980 course they're there to escalate they want to escalate but at the same time they don't seem

00:06:47.180 to understand the stakes a lot of the time and so yeah i mean you know you've been nose to nose with

00:06:52.820 these antifa people before you know smell to smell smell to smell it'll be right back hold that

00:06:58.400 I thought, that's just a couple blocks from here, as a matter of fact, up the way where it's true.

00:07:04.200 They are feral, they are committed, and they are extremely violent.

00:07:08.320 Right back, Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily with the Raw Egg Nationalist.

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00:09:14.840 people, when you look at the signal chats, when you look at the things that Alex Preddy was doing,

00:09:20.000 And we had Mike Howell on here yesterday from the Oversight Project, who is, he's gained access to some of these signal chats and is fairly certain that he's found an account that was associated with Alex Preddy.

00:09:32.100 And that's exactly what they're doing, isn't it?

00:09:34.580 They're doxing, they're going after people.

00:09:37.180 So my brother was in the field and they would be finding people that they thought may have looked like Kevin and were sharing photos around, even there in the field.

00:09:48.580 What would they do if they had actually uncovered, say, Kevin or Cam Higby or Nick Sorter or any of these people?

00:09:56.260 What do you suppose an Alex Preddy who comes there?

00:09:59.300 Remember, we were told originally, oh, he's, you know, he's just got his gun for the Second Amendment purposes.

00:10:04.120 He's just got it. And by the way, by the way, how was it that in the state of Minnesota,

00:10:08.940 he was able to keep his permit even after assaulting and attacking federal agents the first time?

00:10:16.900 because we were told this was a guy who had no criminal history.

00:10:21.580 We were told this was a guy who was on the side of the Angels,

00:10:24.780 and yet we see him attacking guards, attacking these agents, I should say, border guards.

00:10:29.280 And he is able to keep that.

00:10:32.680 The entire media told us that he had no criminal history.

00:10:35.280 We can see his criminal history on video.

00:10:38.020 What is going on in Minnesota?

00:10:40.160 Why didn't Tim Walz and Jacob Fry enforce their own laws?

00:10:45.460 And, Ren, I'll cut it back to you because I think they're protecting these people.

00:10:52.060 Yeah, of course they're protecting these people.

00:10:54.000 And I think, you know, when you said who was that like, I mean, I'll tell you who Alex Pretty reminds me of, actually,

00:11:00.040 is that Joseph Rosenbaum, one of the guys who tried to kill Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:11:05.940 Shoot me. 1.00

00:11:07.020 Shoot me. 1.00

00:11:08.220 Assault me. 1.00

00:11:09.220 Assault me. 1.00

00:11:09.920 Assault me. 0.98

00:11:10.280 It's exactly the same language.

00:11:11.680 And what did Joseph Rosenbaum do? 0.85

00:11:13.040 He tried to disarm Kyle Rittenhouse and wanted to kill him.

00:11:16.560 He wanted to kill him simply for being in Kenosha and trying to protect a business from 0.97

00:11:24.100 being burned down.

00:11:25.100 Which, by the way, not very far from Minneapolis.

00:11:27.360 Exactly.

00:11:28.360 No.

00:11:29.360 I mean, this is all, it's all linked.

00:11:30.940 I mean, this is a, there is a very distinctive MO that Antifa has, and there is a very distinctive

00:11:37.320 way, actually, that the Democrat Party and the left, the organs of leftist government

00:11:43.440 utilizes groups like Antifa and these people on the ground as foot soldiers, as a paramilitary.

00:11:50.900 And that is what they are. And, you know, there's compelling analysis. There was a thread

00:11:55.580 on Twitter, actually, by a chap called Eric Schwalm, I think, about, and he was a warrant

00:12:00.800 officer, I think, in the Special Forces. And he talked about, you know, the similarities

00:12:06.020 between what was happening, what has been happening in Minneapolis, and what he saw

00:12:09.760 in Anbar province in Iraq and Afghanistan, the same kinds of organization, the same kinds

00:12:15.480 of division of labor where you have people who are spotters and they're watching and

00:12:20.200 you have checkers.

00:12:20.940 And what people have to know about these spotters is that, so I actually met with James O'Keefe

00:12:25.680 yesterday after the show, and he was telling me, he said, Jack, they're in cafes, they're

00:12:32.360 in hotel lobbies.

00:12:34.040 Sometimes they work in the hotels.

00:12:35.520 Sometimes they work in the restaurants.

00:12:37.160 They're on every block.

00:12:38.980 And they're spread throughout the city so that, oh,

00:12:42.080 when there's a convoy, boom, they come up.

00:12:44.220 So Alex Preddy, that morning, he's not walking down the street

00:12:49.800 minding his business.

00:12:50.420 No, he's on duty.

00:12:52.160 He's on duty as one of these active spotters.

00:12:55.820 And that's why he's the first on the scene.

00:12:58.600 So for people who say, oh, well, he just showed up to a protest.

00:13:01.520 No, no, no, no, no.

00:13:02.440 He showed up to disrupt the operation.

00:13:05.240 He showed up to do his job.

00:13:06.920 To do his job, exactly.

00:13:08.460 The protest, the riot, all of that came after the fact.

00:13:12.380 And, you know, I think to go back to the René Good thing,

00:13:16.020 her husband, her husband, her wife. 0.98

00:13:18.900 Sorry, her wife. 0.99

00:13:20.320 Freudian, Freudian. 1.00

00:13:21.060 Freudian slip there. 1.00

00:13:23.240 Her wife. 1.00

00:13:24.460 Or you could even say street wife,

00:13:25.680 because actually there's no record of them actually being married. 0.96

00:13:28.560 Quite, yeah, quite.

00:13:29.580 But her partner, her wife, had been that week to an organized, it was a Zoom session, I think, but it was, nevertheless, an organized training session on how to disrupt ICE operations using vehicles.

00:13:44.420 I mean, you know, this is organized.

00:13:47.660 I mean, it's like...

00:13:48.120 And, of course, the tactic that we see, and we'll have Will Chamberlain on here in a minute who knows about this, one of the other tactics is the de-arrest.

00:13:54.660 Yes.

00:13:54.860 So when he sees an ICE officer, an ICE agent going towards, whether it's a woman, a fellow comrade, a neighbor, right, Barack Obama, that's the new word, the neighbor, right, tovarish, the new word is de-arrest.

00:14:11.380 So we're going to go and disrupt even the arrest.

00:14:13.800 That's what he's doing when he's going over with the woman.

00:14:17.620 Yeah, it's not that he has some sort of objection to, you know, the ICE agent or the CBP agent.

00:14:24.820 It's being too rough. It's being brutal.

00:14:26.640 It's no. I mean, it's the moment you see someone being arrested, you need to get in the way.

00:14:31.920 And what does that do?

00:14:32.980 Well, it makes it harder to arrest the person.

00:14:34.580 Maybe they can escape.

00:14:35.320 But it also makes the likelihood of escalation greater.

00:14:40.940 And look what happened.

00:14:42.500 Look what happened.

00:14:43.360 But these people know exactly what they're doing.

00:14:45.920 they're coached they're trained they're ready for this i mean so so that being said and you know we

00:14:53.020 are gonna we are gonna have to check this out the pattern and i'm gonna go in even here a step

00:14:57.000 further the fact that he armed himself multiple times while knowing that he was going out to these

00:15:03.400 these incidents going out on duty going out as an agitator we see him do it the first time we see

00:15:09.620 him do it again and we know that he did not have his legal id or his carry permit which i have my

00:15:15.720 carry permit on me right now uh i'll leave it to you to figure out whether or not i'm armed

00:15:19.940 and um i've got my id on me right now and you know that if you're going out to lawfully carry

00:15:26.920 you you will carry those things yeah he did not do that either time no no and that's again i mean

00:15:32.720 i think as far as we know for the first time i should say that was another uh parallel i think

00:15:37.000 with the rittenhouse thing right gage i think it was gage grosskreutz was who's expired his yeah he

00:15:43.060 was he was armed he had a pistol he was advancing on car with now to execute him on the floor yes

00:15:48.480 but no he wasn't he didn't have a permit he wasn't legally he had expired permit if i believe

00:15:53.620 so i mean yeah i mean do you they know what they're doing i think that that's the that's

00:16:00.360 i keep hearing this from the the lullbertarians out there saying oh but you know i thought you

00:16:08.040 were for the second amendment i thought you were for gun rights and of course before those for

00:16:12.900 the purposes of self-defense criminals use guns every day we don't support criminals using firearms

00:16:20.480 because we don't support crime okay this is a very basic thing but this is something i want to tease 0.70

00:16:27.040 out with you a little bit because there is we've seen the lullbertarians completely take the side

00:16:34.000 of this offender someone who's been he was he was certainly violently resisting arrest the first

00:16:39.780 time. He has no one to blame for himself other than himself for what happened. But we see him

00:16:43.620 the second time as well. He is not using this firearm for the purposes of self-defense. He's

00:16:51.020 using it for offense or attempting to. Yeah, of course. And I think that's a crucial distinction

00:16:57.040 is, you know, I mean, yes, I mean, everybody supports the Second Amendment or should support

00:17:02.720 the Second Amendment, but you shouldn't get confused about the purposes that these weapons

00:17:07.740 serve. I mean, he is going out there not only to disrupt, but potentially actually to use

00:17:13.640 a weapon, maybe to kill an immigration agent. I mean, and certainly to make it more likely

00:17:20.640 that the situation will escalate. And yeah, but these libertarians, every time, they have

00:17:29.100 completely the wrong instincts, every single time.

00:17:32.180 It's this sort of sense that any time the government is used and government force is used for any purpose, then you must be against it.

00:17:44.880 Even if we see, in this case, a violent individual who is armed in the first video.

00:17:51.400 And by the way, I'm not conceding any point of this.

00:17:53.420 He's obviously disrupting traffic and is either blocking traffic or urging cars to come forward to disrupt an arrest operation.

00:18:02.180 He's interjecting himself while armed.

00:18:04.900 So that's an armed roadblock that he is attempting to set up.

00:18:08.360 And then he's bringing his comrades further.

00:18:10.680 He's already put out the call for more people to come because he wants to disrupt this operation.

00:18:15.120 Again, while armed.

00:18:17.160 That was his own irresponsible action.

00:18:19.780 Then he's attacking agents while armed.

00:18:22.720 And that means at some point he intended to draw for some reason.

00:18:27.320 And he knows that his target is ICE agents.

00:18:30.800 Now, we don't see him, again, we don't see him draw, but at the same time, this is visible.

00:18:35.880 It's visible the entire time.

00:18:37.540 Yeah, well, he did, I mean, he did reach for his magazine.

00:18:39.940 And he reached for it, yeah.

00:18:40.720 So, well, he doesn't realize that it's just his magazine at this point.

00:18:45.760 But still, I mean, the point stands.

00:18:48.000 The point completely stands.

00:18:48.880 If there had been a gun there, he would have drawn it, and he might have shot someone.

00:18:52.320 And we have no idea what would have happened, and that's why you can't look at these things in play the freeze frame game.

00:18:59.220 You have to look at the totality of evidence as it was understood by the people at the time.

00:19:05.980 Right back, Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily.

00:19:13.120 Talk about influencers. These are influencers, and they're friends of mine.

00:19:18.960 Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack?

00:19:21.400 Jack, he's done a great job.

00:19:25.540 I want to say something about that.

00:19:26.760 So Jack Posobiec back live here at Human Events Daily. We're in studio, Washington, D.C. with the Roig Nationalist. 0.99

00:19:32.580 One of the things that I wanted to point out here with Alex Preddy is that he was now there's a lot of rumors going around about his family, things his family has said, his parents have said, his job in and out of work, which exactly it was.

00:19:49.640 we don't know exactly uh the details of that and there have been some rumors so i don't want to

00:19:54.860 get into it whether or not it's substantiated but one thing that i do see here is that alex was

00:20:01.000 formerly married according to the associated press his ex-wife didn't want to share her name

00:20:06.360 publicly she hadn't spoken to him since they divorced more than two years ago hadn't spoken

00:20:10.880 to him since they divorced and she moved out of minnesota after his death his ex-wife said she

00:20:16.400 was not surprised by reports that he had been president demonstrations tied to the immigration

00:20:20.520 policies because he had taken part in protests after the killing of George Floyd, also in

00:20:25.640 Minneapolis, which occurred near where the couple once lived. Alex could be outspoken toward police

00:20:32.900 during protests and that he obtained a permit to carry roughly three years ago. So what we're

00:20:38.380 seeing here actually is a, I would say, a spiral of radicalization. And this is something where

00:20:45.040 typically when you see these radicals when they when they make this decision to go

00:20:48.940 violent when they make the decision to cross that line between peaceful protest and violent radical

00:20:54.420 is it is typically tied to a major life event so i'll just say right here alex preddy divorced um

00:21:02.900 thomas matthew crooks drop it was a a college dropout tyler robinson yeah college dropout

00:21:11.560 You see this over in Luigi Maggioni. 0.51

00:21:15.100 He graduates college, but then he drops out of his, you know, sort of his work life and he goes traveling and he's in Thailand getting beaten up by ladyboys. 0.98

00:21:26.680 And, you know, again, he just has this break with his, you know, I think he got to work and he didn't like it. 0.96

00:21:32.580 So, you know, he's unemployed at the time.

00:21:34.380 You see these shifts in life changes over and over again with people who then these major life events.

00:21:43.380 And it seems, though, that in some way they feel as though life isn't going their way.

00:21:49.100 And then they turn to these radical causes and attempt to take radical action as a way of, you know, perhaps ingratiating themselves or perhaps a sort of search for their own.

00:22:03.300 It provides meaning, I think, as well.

00:22:06.660 Unpack that for us, because it's a pattern we see again and again.

00:22:09.840 Yeah, yeah, it is.

00:22:11.060 I mean, I think, and I actually think that not enough focus goes on this radicalization process.

00:22:17.800 Especially, you know, as you just laid out, Jack, there are clear parallels between Tyler Robinson and Thomas Matthew Crooks, this college dropout thing, right?

00:22:27.500 Same kind of period.

00:22:28.600 they're the same kind they were I think the same kinds of person but you know they go through the

00:22:33.480 same life event and then suddenly they're they're murdering people one of them tries to murder the

00:22:39.040 president of the united states and another murders you know the most important young conservative in

00:22:43.820 the u.s i mean that's that's a hell of a thing to do because i mean we all we all suffer to some

00:22:50.340 extent in our lives we'll suffer setbacks and reversals and whatever but these people

00:22:54.220 I think take reversals and setbacks particularly hard maybe that they're you know very significant

00:23:01.640 setbacks in reversals I mean Luigi Mangione suffered very bad health and I think that that

00:23:06.780 that that embittered him about the state of health care in the U.S. he also I think got quite heavily

00:23:13.340 into drugs as well but yeah I wouldn't be surprised if there is actually a if we could

00:23:19.480 reconstruct a detailed chronology of exactly what happened to Alex Pretty to drive him

00:23:26.560 to, you know, from being an ICU nurse, happily married, let's say, to being basically an

00:23:34.100 Antifa foot soldier who is going out armed onto the streets of Minneapolis to do battle

00:23:41.240 in like life and death situations with immigration agents.

00:23:44.560 you have talked about this in your book where you you know what it would it surprise you and i don't

00:23:52.220 know that we have any evidence of this but would it surprise you if we found out that alex preddy

00:23:57.520 was a vegan no not no not at all not at all it's a it's a surprising thing because tell people what

00:24:03.780 your book is and the thesis yeah so my my book is called new book just come out it's called the last

00:24:08.380 men, liberalism, and the death of masculinity. And it's about testosterone and testosterone

00:24:14.740 decline in particular. So we're witnessing a kind of civilizational decline in testosterone

00:24:20.060 levels in recent decades. And it has very clear political implications. And I unpack

00:24:26.040 the political implications and talk about, you know, where we're heading with a society

00:24:30.440 of increasingly low testosterone men. But one thing that actually isn't appreciated

00:24:35.000 is that... Well, so wait a minute, but isn't testosterone usually associated with aggression?

00:24:41.680 Aren't we told usually that people who have higher testosterone have higher aggression?

00:24:45.520 So how can we associate violence with lower testosterone? Well, this is the interesting

00:24:49.680 thing because actually it's not that simple. And estrogen, which is typically seen as the

00:24:55.400 female hormone, actually has very important effects on aggression as well. So there are

00:25:02.080 there are these very funny studies of monkeys for example where they gave male monkeys soy

00:25:08.260 isoflavones which are estrogenic compounds in soy and it basically turned them into incel monkeys

00:25:14.420 it basically made them into these sort of passive aggressive nasty sneaky monkeys they'd retreat

00:25:19.740 from the rest of the troop and then you know launch a kind of vicious attack when the rest 0.74

00:25:24.560 of the troop weren't looking or something like that so an estrogenic man actually can be more

00:25:30.940 aggressive than a man with testosterone. Now, a man with more testosterone might be dangerous,

00:25:35.460 or more dangerous even, and more motivated, whatever. But I think there's a difference

00:25:41.340 between the kinds of aggression that estrogen and testosterone causes.

00:25:45.480 It almost seems like one is more spastic, one is more randomized, erratic, whereas...

00:25:52.700 Emotional.

00:25:53.440 Emotional, ups and downs, whereas testosterone, that has more regulation.

00:25:59.160 that has more balance, more regularity.

00:26:02.980 Yeah, and I mean, I think probably a man

00:26:04.660 who has high testosterone

00:26:06.300 is likely to feel more confident in himself.

00:26:09.480 You know, there's always an element, actually,

00:26:11.320 with a lot of this violence

00:26:12.500 that actually it's men who, I think,

00:26:14.940 don't feel very confident about themselves

00:26:16.760 and they want to assert themselves.

00:26:18.400 They want to, you know, I've got to show I'm a man.

00:26:20.520 I've got to, you know, I've got to be violent in order to...

00:26:22.900 Overcompensation.

00:26:23.660 Yeah, it's overcompensation.

00:26:25.420 And yeah, I wouldn't be, I mean, it's so funny, isn't it?

00:26:28.420 You know, these pictures that have been used of Alex Pretty that have been digitally altered.

00:26:31.720 Right, so they're actually making him look as though he's been mewing and he's got a jawline and more hair.

00:26:38.040 And all of which kind of goes to show you that what you're talking about in your book isn't some, you know, isn't some fantasy.

00:26:46.740 We can see it play out in reality, even on MSNBC or MSNOW.

00:26:52.420 We'll be right back.

00:26:52.940 Jack Posobiec-Rogg, nationalist here at Human Events Daily.

00:26:55.680 Special guest coming up.

00:26:58.420 jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you

00:27:07.900 great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always

00:27:15.360 talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys who'll be getting

00:27:20.320 all right jack was so big we are back here human events daily uh we're on real america's voice

00:27:27.480 I've got Raw Egg Nationalist here live in Sudi.

00:27:30.140 I want to bring in now Will Chamberlain from the Article 3 Project.

00:27:34.160 Will, how are you?

00:27:35.660 Doing great. Doing great. Good to be with you both.

00:27:37.920 So, Will, this incredible vindication from local media in Minneapolis,

00:27:43.160 as well as the BBC of all places, verifying that Alex Freddie, yes, in fact,

00:27:50.060 just like everyone said at the beginning, was an agitator,

00:27:53.980 was a disruptive, committed, communist sympathizer, was very violent, while armed with law enforcement,

00:28:03.660 with federal law enforcement. I mean, it's just something where the narrative has completely

00:28:07.460 been shattered that they were trying to erect that this guy was just, oh, some peaceful ICU nurse.

00:28:13.200 There's AI video now, AI pictures going around, not just looks maxing him, as Ren was just talking

00:28:19.620 about in the last segment uh we were talking about the they're trying to uh digitally increase

00:28:24.740 his testosterone levels but um it's true they're trying to digitally increase his testosterone

00:28:30.200 levels but also they've they've made videos of him helping out with veterans and all the rest

00:28:35.840 it's it's so ridiculous will i've got to ask you though why was it that so many people that you

00:28:43.240 nominally say, oh, I support immigration restrictions and I want to decrease the amount 0.96

00:28:51.200 of illegals in this country. But this is just so icky. This is just so wrong. So many people 1.00

00:28:57.620 immediately took the side of the leftist agitator on this. And even, by the way, even Joe Rogan

00:29:05.380 has come out now and said that this guy was not doing what he should have been, that he was acting

00:29:10.660 irresponsibly. So many people now are having to walk back statements. Certain individuals running

00:29:18.000 around calling me a hypocrite, saying, oh, Jack was just a peaceful guy. No, no, he wasn't. No.

00:29:23.760 What is it, Will, that caused so many people to just immediately have that knee-jerk response be

00:29:30.040 so incredibly wrong? So the question is, are you vulnerable to left-wing agitprop? And should you

00:29:37.580 be you know i mean there's people like eric erickson who have no business being vulnerable

00:29:41.060 to left-wing agitprop they've been doing the republican commentary game for decades now

00:29:45.400 it's kind of embarrassing that they got caught up with it there's other people i'm thinking of

00:29:49.640 people like dave smith kind of more of the libertarian types i would just call out what i

00:29:53.600 see uh i think they have they they have trouble reconciling in their minds the sort of what is

00:30:00.260 needed to actually restrict immigration in the united states with their more broader

00:30:05.780 pro-agiprop advocacy

00:30:08.140 elsewhere in the world. I think it's very difficult

00:30:10.060 for them to reconcile. Like, from Dave's

00:30:12.120 perspective, he's been buying into this 0.58

00:30:14.100 sort of Pollywood-style agiprop in Israel

00:30:15.940 for years now, and now that

00:30:18.140 the left in the United States is doing 1.00

00:30:20.080 what the Palestinians were 0.98

00:30:22.140 doing in Gaza, he's

00:30:23.940 not able to kind of reorient

00:30:26.080 himself and realize that, oh, this is 0.95

00:30:27.920 agiprop, this is all fake nonsense, 0.97

00:30:30.240 and you need 0.94

00:30:32.060 to do that. And I think Servich had a very interesting tweet

00:30:33.840 the other day where he's like, you know, the right-wing Jews, 0.84

00:30:35.780 of all the people who kind of messed up here the right-wing jews were like saw right through this 0.81

00:30:39.720 even even joel berry of all people saw right through this and was based on their incorrect

00:30:44.220 on the subject so it just goes to show there's there's something to that well so will walk us

00:30:48.360 through what what is agitprop you know how is it that that agitprop you know is used just sort of

00:30:54.360 in a general sense regardless of what the setting is so agitprop you're trying to you know you're

00:30:59.580 fighting the legitimate authority trying to provoke a confrontation with them and then when there's

00:31:03.960 violence uh you're you know trying to get it uh make propaganda out of it so there you go agit

00:31:10.160 agitation propaganda prop so that's what that is that's uh and really every one of these videoed

00:31:16.200 interactions between these antifa protesters and law enforcement is an attempt to create useful

00:31:21.560 agit prop and so then let's go back to rog nationalist because how is it then that this

00:31:28.160 type of agit prop has been used in the past because we see it over and over it's like a

00:31:33.400 you know it's like a like a pheromone goes out or something and the media just immediately

00:31:38.120 spreads it everywhere yeah well look i mean i think i think the playbook is well established

00:31:44.380 by now we've we've seen the same kinds of things happen i mean the the great example obviously the

00:31:50.560 the real example is george floyd uh it all it all comes back to george floyd in a sense you know that

00:31:56.240 that worked so spectacularly well. The framing of the narrative, the selective presentation

00:32:04.300 of evidence, even though you could watch the video and make up your own mind. The narrative

00:32:12.320 was framed so well, the media got behind it, the politicians got behind it, the celebrities,

00:32:17.760 captains of industry, basically the entire world got behind this narrative and it worked.

00:32:24.020 And it was basically a, you know, a domestic color revolution in the U.S. 0.55

00:32:28.600 And so it's no surprise then that they're deploying exactly the same tactics.

00:32:35.920 You know, I mean, it's worth remembering George Floyd happened during the first Trump presidency.

00:32:40.460 Trump was in power.

00:32:41.820 They can do these things even when they're not formally in power.

00:32:48.160 But yeah, I mean, it's disappointing.

00:32:50.020 It's very disappointing to see people who should know better

00:32:53.220 because we've seen this all before.

00:32:55.300 We've seen it happen.

00:32:56.360 We've seen large parts of the George Floyd narrative unravel too.

00:33:00.300 A lot of people have come around to the notion

00:33:02.200 that maybe actually George Floyd wasn't the saint

00:33:05.800 who made the most amazing banana and mayonnaise sandwiches

00:33:09.340 that the media has claimed.

00:33:12.680 However, I should ask, by the way,

00:33:14.960 it is possible at this point

00:33:18.080 that he may have actually been having

00:33:21.340 the city dish of Minneapolis, rice and bananas.

00:33:27.600 Yeah, well, I mean, we learn a lot

00:33:30.160 about what it really means to be a Minnesotan.

00:33:33.680 It's rice and bananas.

00:33:36.380 Right, rice and bananas.

00:33:37.560 Now, Will Chamberlain, let's, you know,

00:33:40.080 I want to jump back on you and ask about this

00:33:42.280 because what's really going on here, you know,

00:33:44.660 and Tim Pool, massive credit to him

00:33:46.580 for coming up with the line.

00:33:47.660 You know, they say, oh, you guys are a bunch of bootlickers. And he responds. He said, no, we are the boot. We voted for this boot.

00:33:54.680 This is a huge difference between the conservative and libertarian forms of philosophy, I would say, because we're in one hand, it's saying, oh, we're going to restrict government power.

00:34:06.000 And that's the way for the flourishment of liberty. Whereas I think folks on the new right, this has been the new thinking to say, well, wait a minute.

00:34:11.940 in the current situation you know we just don't have the luxury of being able to do that we need

00:34:17.840 to fix the situation we're in now and then perhaps we can look at to other things right i mean i think

00:34:23.760 the the defining ethos of the new right is to use government power to achieve conservative ends

00:34:29.520 and it's it's deeply anti-libertarian in that respect um and so i was actually thinking about

00:34:35.340 this the other day there was a great piece from paul graham who sucks on politics generally but

00:34:39.300 He had a very interesting piece about how experienced computer scientists think about the world.

00:34:43.540 They see things in the world that can be fixed, like the way a carpenter sees, like, a broken hinge.

00:34:49.200 A computer scientist or a good computer coder sees problems in the world and thinks,

00:34:53.620 ah, I can use code to fix that.

00:34:54.700 Well, I think part of what we're doing is we're, you know,

00:34:57.340 we're looking at the world and seeing ways law can fix the problems we see from a conservative perspective.

00:35:02.460 And so we're perfectly willing to use law.

00:35:04.700 We're perfectly willing to come up with legal fixes and changes to policy to do things like that.

00:35:09.300 We don't have an attitude towards government power that is reflexively against it.

00:35:13.420 Because the idea is that a small government is a means, not an end, right?

00:35:18.720 If the small government is the means to human flourishing, it's not the be-all, end-all of anything.

00:35:22.600 And so there's going to be times when government needs to act to achieve the goals of human flourishing that we look for.

00:35:29.080 There's a lot of reasons why I think the libertarian philosophy is just ultimately very simplistic and realized.

00:35:35.000 So it's just, it's like they think they know the answer before they've ever done real empirical analysis of what actually would work.

00:35:41.160 Because the answer is always less government.

00:35:43.300 And it's like that's sort of reflexive and dogmatic.

00:35:46.680 And I'll toss it back to Wren here for a second.

00:35:49.520 So what happens if we say, oh, we shouldn't use government power because what if the left uses it against us in the future?

00:35:58.060 Well, what happens is that you end up disqualifying yourself.

00:36:01.560 you end up ceding power, allowing your enemies to become totally entrenched in government,

00:36:07.400 to become totally entrenched in the bureaucracy, all the major institutions, the universities,

00:36:12.680 all the institutions of public life, and then potentially you're shut out from government for good.

00:36:19.100 And, you know, maybe you end up lined up alongside a trench in a field in the early hours of the

00:36:27.660 morning waiting to be you know shoveled into a into a mass grave i mean that's exactly what

00:36:32.520 happened at the end of the spanish or during i should say the spanish civil war when they rounded

00:36:36.540 up all of the conservatives of madrid and their children by the way put them into mass prisons

00:36:43.500 and then eventually led them they told them they were being released and they walked them out to

00:36:47.420 the mass graves yeah the the state the stakes are that high i don't i don't we're not being

00:36:52.640 hyperbolic here it's not it's not silly to look at past examples of conservative failure past

00:36:59.020 examples of right-wing failure and say look we need to learn from this like we can't yes we can

00:37:05.280 as as will rightly said you know small government can be and and in inappropriate circumstances

00:37:11.900 should be the means to an end but it's not the end in itself and simply limiting ourselves to

00:37:19.640 not using this incredibly powerful apparatus of government

00:37:23.540 that's being used against us and has been used against us.

00:37:27.200 It's a recipe for failure.

00:37:28.500 Will Chamberlain, where can people follow you?

00:37:31.060 Follow me on x at Will Chamberlain.

00:37:33.920 All right, right back with my favorite anti-communist joining us in a moment.

00:37:37.640 jack is a great guy he's written a fantastic book everybody's talking about it go get it

00:37:53.500 and he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event

00:37:57.540 and we're going to turn it around and make our country ready to get to do it amen

00:38:01.600 jack so we're back live here with the raw egg nationalist in studio human events daily so

00:38:10.800 i want to get on because people are telling me they say oh well you know you know people are

00:38:15.220 saying that the heavy-handed tactics of the administration they're they're just getting too

00:38:19.720 strong it's getting out of hand you know they've run their course so i said all right you know 0.99

00:38:24.300 let's get on let's get on a female perspective someone who by the way lives in the area not far 1.00

00:38:31.480 away from the city of Minneapolis. It is, of course, my favorite anti-communist, Evita Duffy. 1.00

00:38:37.020 Hey, Jack. Thanks so much for having me.

00:38:38.920 So let me ask you about this. You and your husband, you're not far from,

00:38:43.300 I was just on the show the other day, are not far, of course, from Minneapolis. You've seen

00:38:48.400 all this. You personally covered the riots in Kenosha. What is your sense of these illegal

00:38:56.680 raids? Where's Gen Z at it when it comes to polling? You know, do they want to see the

00:39:03.000 mass deportations continue or do they want a de-escalation and some kind of pause?

00:39:08.680 So first and foremost, there are millions of Americans across the country who voted for

00:39:13.580 President Trump, who voted therefore for mass deportations and are being defrauded out of their

00:39:19.340 vote by psychopath Antifa Karens in Minneapolis. People in St. Croix County, which is 20 minutes 0.69

00:39:26.660 minutes from Minneapolis, voted for President Trump.

00:39:29.380 The people of the 7th District of Wisconsin, which borders Minnesota and therefore Minneapolis,

00:39:35.840 voted overwhelmingly for President Trump. 0.96

00:39:37.920 We see the problems that Minneapolis lets in with their toleration of illegal immigration 0.92

00:39:44.380 spill into our communities. 0.91

00:39:46.900 So because a bunch of crazy people in Minneapolis, encouraged by the government officials, are 0.77

00:39:51.580 trying to subvert ICE, confront ICE. 0.84

00:39:56.580 We don't have a country anymore.

00:39:58.160 That's completely unjustified.

00:40:00.680 And Gen Z, I mean, it's fascinating.

00:40:02.420 You're seeing a lot of young people confront ICE in the streets.

00:40:04.960 But I'm also noticing a lot of millennials.

00:40:06.740 If you ask young conservative Gen Zers, immigration is the number one or two issue. 0.74

00:40:10.740 And that's because mass immigration devalues American labor. 0.92

00:40:15.220 No one is hurt more by the devaluation of American labor than young Americans. 0.80

00:40:20.120 So this is a winning issue for young people, for Republicans, for Trump.

00:40:24.020 And I hope they stick with it.

00:40:26.040 And so the question, I suppose, is more, I guess.

00:40:29.260 Now, let me ask you the question of, like, the optics.

00:40:31.800 You know, are there some people who say, well, the optics aren't good.

00:40:35.300 We don't want to see this.

00:40:36.360 We want to get rid of Bovino.

00:40:38.320 We want to get rid of these raids, these sweeps. 0.92

00:40:41.260 And they would prefer it to be done in some, I don't know, magical fantasy, wave a magic wand, and they all go home.

00:40:48.580 Well, they're making it that way, Jack. 0.68

00:40:50.120 I mean, this is, it's being self-presented as horrific, as a Nazi regime, right?

00:40:57.100 I mean, and you guys talked about this a little bit before, the way that they are lying about

00:41:01.500 the individuals.

00:41:01.820 Wait, Vita, I have to give you a pause on that, because Stephen Colbert says we're not

00:41:06.460 allowed to call them Nazis anymore, because that would be offensive to the Nazis.

00:41:12.300 Jewish Americans need to come out and rebuke it. 0.89

00:41:15.840 I mean, it's absurd that we're going to say ICE is worse than the Nazis. 0.51

00:41:19.140 What are we even doing right now? And of course, the left always gets away with that kind of rhetoric.

00:41:24.100 They always paint people who are agitators, who are breaking the law, as somehow victims.

00:41:29.820 That's the migrants. That's also the radical lefties who are confronting ICE in these cities.

00:41:33.920 They did it with George Floyd. They also did it with Jordan Neely.

00:41:37.200 If you remember, that was an incredible altercation with Jordan Neely and a young former veteran.

00:41:44.500 He was presented as a child, as a young black child.

00:41:48.160 No, the guy was a man, a black male man who was schizophrenic, had a history of drug abuse, clearly was having an episode. 0.51

00:41:58.060 They lie about these situations all the time to garner sympathy for the agitators, for the criminals.

00:42:03.540 And the victims are always, always law-abiding citizens.

00:42:08.960 And you see this again and again take place.

00:42:12.980 Rog Nationalist, throw it to you for a second, because this is a form of anarcho-tyranny, isn't it?

00:42:19.360 What is anarcho-tyranny?

00:42:21.680 Well, anarcho-tyranny is a term that Sam Francis came up with in, I think, 1991, 1992,

00:42:28.780 to describe the way in which chaos is controlled, directed, weaponized by government against the citizens

00:42:38.340 in order to control them, basically.

00:42:43.700 So what you have is you have low-level crime

00:42:46.400 is tolerated and encouraged.

00:42:50.540 Criminals are given lenient prison sentences

00:42:54.100 or just let off altogether

00:42:55.580 as a way, actually, of maintaining this kind of endemic crime,

00:43:02.440 terrorizing the middle classes in particular,

00:43:05.840 squeezing the taxpaying classes harder and harder and basically kind of scaring them straight.

00:43:13.720 And it's something that, I mean, you can think of untold examples in America today.

00:43:19.400 It's a very, very pervasive way.

00:43:21.840 Let's just use the example that Evita Duffy is talking about,

00:43:25.060 because she's saying that you have these millions of taxpaying, middle-class Trump voters

00:43:31.180 who are now being disenfranchised because of the chaos that is being used 0.98

00:43:35.760 The Karens who are, again, suburban moms who have been so radicalized that they're willing to conduct ISIS-style vehicular assaults on federal officers. 0.97

00:43:47.920 This is a serious issue, and the radicalization of suburban women in America absolutely needs to be studied. 0.89

00:43:54.900 But what Evita's talking about is how the government doesn't seem to do anything, or at least the local government doesn't seem to do anything about these types of criminals,

00:44:02.780 whether they be the Jordan Neelys, whether they be the or or this Alex Preddy, who, again, is on video.

00:44:09.880 I'm going to keep saying this. And the left is really mad at me online for saying it.

00:44:13.640 They he was on video committing crime. And the state of Minnesota, the city of Minneapolis did absolutely nothing to him.

00:44:21.620 They did not revoke his concealed carry permit. So there were or even face charges, as far as we're told, because he was had no criminal history whatsoever.

00:44:29.940 Evita, this is exactly what you're talking about, isn't it?

00:44:32.800 This is how the people in power squeeze out the middle class by using these agitators, using this criminal class at the bottom, and then essentially giving them a free pass.

00:44:44.620 This is so key, Jack.

00:44:46.320 The violence and the chaos is intentional.

00:44:49.520 And it's not being caused by ICE.

00:44:51.480 It's being encouraged by Democrat leadership.

00:44:54.760 Just a few years ago, we saw this in 2020 on a mass scale.

00:44:57.620 I was on the ground in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

00:45:00.440 Governor Tony Evers sent more National Guardsmen to a Milwaukee Bucks game than he did on the

00:45:07.680 first night of rioting in Kenosha.

00:45:09.400 He let the city burn for three days before he accepted federal help from President Trump.

00:45:15.900 He did that on purpose because he believed that the riots were politically beneficial

00:45:20.680 for Democrats.

00:45:21.780 It's always intentional.

00:45:23.080 They always use fear to try and strangle law-abiding citizens out of justice, out of law and order, out of what they voted for, which is, of course, President Trump and mass deportations.

00:45:35.540 And I'll toss it back to Rog Nashler. So when you're in a situation like this, how do you get through it? How do you overcome it?

00:45:42.880 How do you, as a citizenry, how do you stand up to the agitprop?

00:45:47.180 Well, I mean, I certainly know what you don't do as an administration. You don't back down.

00:45:54.860 I don't think you can back down from this kind of violence. I mean, there are different

00:46:01.960 ways to handle it, certainly, and there are better and there are worse ways. And we've

00:46:05.740 been talking a little bit about optics. And of course, you want to avoid government agents,

00:46:11.360 federal agents, immigration agents killing people. I'm not saying it wasn't justified,

00:46:15.520 But it does look bad.

00:46:18.240 And if you can avoid that kind of stuff, then obviously you would want to.

00:46:22.520 But nevertheless, you can't be seen to back down in the face of this because, of course,

00:46:28.600 you're sending signals.

00:46:29.600 You're sending a very clear signal.

00:46:31.160 You back down.

00:46:32.160 You withdraw ICE.

00:46:34.520 You come back off the streets.

00:46:35.840 Okay, no, we're not going to deport people anymore.

00:46:38.320 What does the left think?

00:46:39.320 Oh, we can get what we want by being violent.

00:46:41.960 And they do get what they want by being violent.

00:46:45.460 what's happened again and again and again and it happened most spectacularly of course in 2020 but

00:46:51.140 i mean i think for ordinary people then um you just have to question i think you you need to

00:46:57.620 often you know you see these videos that appear online the shooting of of alex pretty the shooting

00:47:03.040 the way i always put it is simple it's it's number one the 48 hour rule which the great scott adams

00:47:09.520 gave us and then also ask the question what happened before what happened after real quick

00:47:14.560 broad nationalist your coordinates uh i'm on twitter baby gravy nine evita duffy yours

00:47:19.880 evita duffy underscore one evita duffy underscore one two of my favorite anti-communist but i'm

00:47:25.860 sorry ren evita is the all-time favorite ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission

00:47:30.120 to lay ashore

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 29, 2026

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