Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - NEOCONS LOSING IT OVER TRUMP PEACE PLAN FOR UKRAINE, MAGA IS THE CHOICE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.520 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.180 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.240 Christ is king.

00:00:51.100 It's the first time we've heard from Pope Francis since he was hospitalized.

00:00:59.120 But, of course, it's also a reflection of the toll that this illness has taken on him.

00:01:04.840 You can hear the frailty in his voice after spending three weeks in the hospital for what started out as a bad case of bronchitis and has since devolved into double pneumonia.

00:01:15.720 This morning, President Trump with a dizzying reversal, allowing Mexico and Canada to avoid 25% tariffs on many goods just days after imposing them.

00:01:24.900 According to the White House, about half of imports from Mexico and only 38% of goods from Canada qualify for the pause, including auto parts and most produce.

00:01:33.780 Look, our country's been ripped off by everybody.

00:01:36.060 That stops now.

00:01:37.160 Hamas is responding to President Trump's latest threats.

00:01:40.500 He called on the militant group to immediately release all remaining hostages being held in Gaza or, quote, it's over for you.

00:01:46.920 We're doing very well with Russia.

00:01:48.440 But right now, they're bombing the hell out of Ukraine.

00:01:52.580 And Ukraine, I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine. 1.00

00:01:57.280 And they don't have the cards.

00:01:59.700 They don't have the cards.

00:02:01.720 As you know, we're meeting in Saudi Arabia on sometime next week, early.

00:02:07.380 And we're talking.

00:02:08.260 I find that in terms of getting a final settlement, it may be easier dealing with Russia, which is surprising because they have all the cards.

00:02:17.480 And they're bombing the hell out of them right now.

00:02:21.420 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to today's edition of Human Events Daily, live Washington, D.C.

00:02:25.760 Today is March 7, 2025.

00:02:27.640 Anno Domini.

00:02:29.500 Got to respond to this new column claiming that MAGA is wrong on Ukraine from Douglas Murray.

00:02:36.920 And Douglas, Douglas, Douglas, I read your column, the one where you're taking the swing at us.

00:02:42.100 And I got to say, you lost the plot, mate.

00:02:44.240 You claim MAGA is wrong on Ukraine because we've never been there, never seen the stakes up close.

00:02:49.340 Well, let me set the record straight.

00:02:50.700 I've been to Ukraine multiple times before the war, during the war.

00:02:54.540 I've walked the streets of Kiev.

00:02:56.440 There were missiles in the air when we arrived.

00:02:59.720 I've been to the presidential complex with Zelensky himself alongside Scott Besson, talking strategy, seeing the chaos firsthand.

00:03:06.880 So we don't need a lecture about where we've been, where we haven't been.

00:03:10.240 We've been there, but we can also see the videos from there writ large.

00:03:14.280 And here's the thing.

00:03:15.640 The world that you seem to be talking about doesn't exist anymore.

00:03:20.120 There's this fantasy of an Anglo-American-led global order where some noble chessboard where London and Washington move the pieces and everyone just kind of nods along.

00:03:30.120 Well, that era is dead, and it's been bleeding out since Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, all the endless wars that all of the neocon buddies cheered for.

00:03:38.500 Trump sees this.

00:03:40.120 MAGA sees this.

00:03:41.620 MAGA was the choice of the American people writ large, the popular vote.

00:03:46.300 The future isn't about imposing some grand universal system.

00:03:49.880 It's about nation states putting their own people first.

00:03:53.480 America first.

00:03:55.160 That's the doctrine.

00:03:56.020 And so you may scoff at Trump wanting some peace in Ukraine like it's a naive betrayal of the Atlanticist dreams.

00:04:02.880 But what's naive is thinking that we can keep boring billions and hundreds of billions of dollars into a meat grinder halfway around the world while our own borders a sieve.

00:04:12.240 Our cities are crumbling.

00:04:13.920 Trump is right.

00:04:15.140 Peace isn't weakness.

00:04:16.700 Peace is strength.

00:04:18.460 It's sanity.

00:04:20.060 People have seen the war up close.

00:04:21.740 The kids in the bomb shelters.

00:04:23.060 The town's reduced to rumble.

00:04:24.180 You think Zelensky wants that forever?

00:04:26.340 No, he'd take the deal if the West stopped using him as a battering ram against Moscow.

00:04:31.900 MAGA isn't isolationist.

00:04:34.200 Doug, it's realist.

00:04:35.880 We're done playing world police for an order that's already collapsed.

00:04:39.720 You call it wrong to step back.

00:04:41.660 But what's wrong is pretending that we can rewind to 1991.

00:04:45.640 Trump is not abandoning Ukraine.

00:04:47.560 He's abandoning the delusion that it's America's job to fix every mess on Earth.

00:04:53.380 You, Doug, wrote an incredible book about the decline of the West.

00:04:58.140 But now we are acting on it.

00:05:00.400 Come back to reality.

00:05:02.080 The empire's over.

00:05:03.640 Nation states are what's left.

00:05:05.860 And America is finally choosing itself.

00:05:09.640 We'll be right back.

00:05:10.340 Human Events Nails.

00:05:15.780 Welcome to the second American Revolution. 0.56

00:05:20.660 Welcome to the second American Revolution. 0.56

00:05:23.380 All right, Jack, here we are back live.

00:05:26.140 Human Events Daily are looking at a shot of the National Mall.

00:05:28.840 Not quite as windy as it was yesterday.

00:05:31.180 The sun is out and shining.

00:05:33.680 I spent some time outside in the sun today getting my vitamin D.

00:05:37.160 Make sure you do so as well.

00:05:39.420 But someone who gets plenty of vitamin D because he lives in the Sunshine State is the great Roger Stone, who joins us now.

00:05:47.620 Roger, how are you?

00:05:48.380 Jack, great to be back with you.

00:05:50.560 So, Roger, we had Congressman Byron Donalds here on the program yesterday, and he was giving us a real preview of some of the issues that he intends to use in his run in this new primary where he's already received the endorsement of President Trump for the Florida governor's race.

00:06:08.520 But, Roger, I'm sure, just like any of these other primaries in a red state like this, you're going to have other people get involved.

00:06:15.340 You're going to have other big-name candidates who want to get in as well, even in the face, potentially, of this Trump endorsement.

00:06:22.160 So, Roger, if you could handicap for us the gubernatorial race of Florida for 2026.

00:06:28.600 Sure.

00:06:29.600 First of all, I'm a strong supporter of Byron Donalds.

00:06:33.100 I think he's been a great congressman, a great supporter of the America First agenda.

00:06:37.680 He's a true fighter.

00:06:39.420 As I predicted well over two years ago, the governor's wife, Casey DeSantis, has announced that she is seriously considering a race. 0.79

00:06:49.120 This is really because, first of all, Ron DeSantis is term limited.

00:06:52.780 He can only serve two terms, so he'll be out of office at the end of 2026, and yes, he wants to run for president again in 2028, although I don't think he could beat J.D. Vance, or if J.D. Vance chose not to run, I don't think he could beat anyone for that matter.

00:07:07.920 But in this particular case, this is shaping up as a proxy fight.

00:07:12.320 While Governor DeSantis and his wife were on their way to Washington to ask the president to remain neutral in the primary, I can think of no reason, given DeSantis' betrayal of Trump in the presidential campaign, why he would do that, the president actually tweeted a warm endorsement of Byron Donalds.

00:07:31.720 Now, a word of caution, the early polls will show Casey DeSantis far ahead because she has superior name ID, simply based on people's knowledge of her governor, her husband, the governor. 0.91

00:07:46.260 By the way, Adam Putnam was far, far ahead of Ron DeSantis until governor, or pardon me, gubernatorial candidate DeSantis was endorsed by Donald Trump, and then he took off like a rocket.

00:07:59.040 So the Trump endorsement, particularly in the sunshine state, this is the gold standard, and I would imagine before it's over that Trump will actually stump for Byron Donalds.

00:08:13.140 Even here in the sunshine state, where Governor DeSantis remains relatively popular, he's not as popular as the president, and frankly, the DeSantis candidacy offended a lot of MAGA voters.

00:08:25.780 The fact that he took a lot of money from neocons and from the establishment, but the cheapest shot here, Jack, was when Byron made it clear he was running for governor and the president endorsed him.

00:08:41.180 Governor DeSantis criticized Byron Donalds for missing votes in Congress when he was out campaigning for President Trump in 2024,

00:08:49.200 which is ironic because Ron DeSantis missed a record number of votes while he himself was running for governor.

00:09:00.500 And this is really something that I think anyone can say in politics, that of course there's always going to be votes on the table, there's always going to be jobs that can be done.

00:09:10.300 Of course we know exactly where Byron Donalds was.

00:09:12.400 Byron Donalds, by the way, didn't make a, didn't try to hide where he was.

00:09:17.600 He was in the streets of Philadelphia, he was going up to Detroit, he was working the cities for President Trump throughout 2024.

00:09:23.900 In fact, he made a great showing of it, and a lot of those videos, coming from the Philadelphia area myself,

00:09:29.660 that really had a fantastic impact in swinging the state for President Trump.

00:09:35.780 He's shown an ability to be able to go into those neighborhoods, to reach out to those types of voters,

00:09:40.640 and of course this all is presaged, and people forget, by the way, that the first Trump post-rally pizza stop was, in fact, with Byron Donalds and his son.

00:09:52.320 They went for a round of pizzas after his event, and it became a sort of perennial tradition along the Trump campaign thereafter

00:10:01.120 to go out and get food at a local establishment after a rally.

00:10:04.400 But it was actually Byron Donalds, and I want to say either, it was either Fort Myers or Sarasota, where they did the first one.

00:10:11.260 And so, Roger, this is a case, I think, where you're exactly right, that a lot of the moves we're seeing right now

00:10:17.160 are also directly tied to a potential 2028 primary.

00:10:22.900 And I believe Florida Politics had a poll out earlier today that said, if it were held today, that in the state of Florida,

00:10:30.060 J.D. Vance would best Governor DeSantis by 14 points in Florida alone.

00:10:36.180 So it really seems to me like a lot of this is a proxy fight, the Tallahassee fight, for the potential 2028 primary,

00:10:45.180 which in many ways has already begun.

00:10:46.420 Yeah, for people who don't live in Florida, they may not remember the background, but Ron DeSantis was a rather undistinguished three-term congressman.

00:10:55.300 He says, by the way, that Byron Donalds is not qualified to be governor, but Donalds has been in the House the same three terms

00:11:01.420 that DeSantis was in the House when he ran for governor.

00:11:05.040 Ron was running at about 8 percent.

00:11:06.880 Adam Putnam, the favorite, endorsed by every single Republican county chairman, every single Republican state legislator

00:11:13.700 in both the House and the Senate, every member of the congressional delegation who was a Republican,

00:11:18.740 with the exception of Matt Gaetz, he was leading 53 to 8.

00:11:23.540 Then President Trump, with a simple tweeted endorsement, broke that race open.

00:11:28.980 DeSantis took off like a rocket to win the nomination handily.

00:11:32.980 But then President Trump still had to visit Florida three times in the last two weeks to literally drag DeSantis over the finish line.

00:11:41.060 So a lot of Trump supporters here in the Sunshine State are asking, you know, where is the loyalty?

00:11:47.920 I mean, Ron DeSantis would be managing a McDonald's today were it not for Donald Trump.

00:11:53.400 And the real question, the reason I think he's talking about running his wife for governor

00:11:58.200 is for the fulcrum of fundraising that that would provide, because no one gives to Ron DeSantis because they like him.

00:12:04.700 And people give to him because either he was the neocon alternative to Donald Trump or because they have to,

00:12:11.260 taking a huge amount of money from lobbyists and special interests here in Florida.

00:12:17.620 Well, so, Roger, then, if that is the case, then does it seem or do you see the signs,

00:12:24.080 the tea leaves already, for a potential use of Casey DeSantis' candidacy for governor

00:12:32.400 as a potential springboard for Governor DeSantis to then run in the primary for 2028?

00:12:39.720 Well, I think that is what he's hoping.

00:12:41.560 But they really need it as an ability to raise money.

00:12:44.240 If he and if they're both out of office between 26 and 2028,

00:12:48.720 raising the hundreds of millions of dollars you need for a presidential campaign is almost impossible.

00:12:53.220 Ron DeSantis, between PACS and his campaign, where he had an extraordinary amount of coordination

00:13:00.240 that many experienced operatives think was illegal, he spent $300 million.

00:13:11.160 The current attorney general was his chief of staff, who has announced that he's investigating Andrew

00:13:17.620 and Tristan Tate, he was actually making fundraising calls from the executive office of the governor.

00:13:24.640 That's a felony.

00:13:25.660 Also doing fundraisers in the governor's mansion, also quite illegal.

00:13:30.420 So this is really all about money and 2028.

00:13:35.120 Ron also has the alternative of running for the U.S. Senate.

00:13:38.960 He appointed Ashley Moody, the state attorney general, to the vacancy created by the resignation of Marco Rubio.

00:13:45.620 People assume that she's going to run again, but we don't know that.

00:13:51.320 And it is possible that if Ron doesn't think Casey can make it, because up against the Trump juggernaut,

00:13:58.040 I don't think she can, he could run for the Senate as a way to keep his presidential aspirations alive.

00:14:04.920 But, Jack, senators can't raise the kind of money that governors can, or that a governor's wife can, if she's governor,

00:14:13.860 which is, I think, the principal reason she's talking about running.

00:14:17.060 What her qualifications to be governor are is a little hard to put your finger on.

00:14:21.180 Yes, she's done great charitable work. 0.94

00:14:23.100 We applaud her for that.

00:14:24.580 But prior to that, she was a newscaster.

00:14:26.580 To say that she's less experienced than Byron Donalds, well, that's absurd.

00:14:30.900 Thank you.

00:15:00.880 Jack Posovic.

00:15:02.220 Where's Jack?

00:15:03.140 Jack.

00:15:04.160 He's done a great job.

00:15:08.180 Jack Posovic.

00:15:09.200 Here we are back.

00:15:10.040 Human Events Daily.

00:15:11.240 We're on with legendary political strategist Roger Stone.

00:15:14.800 Roger, we're about one week away, just about, I'm going to think around this time,

00:15:20.300 one week ago, is when President Trump was giving Zelensky the boot from the Oval Office.

00:15:26.620 First of all, Roger, I've got to ask, in all your years in politics, have you ever seen something like this at a presidential level right there in the Oval?

00:15:35.000 And secondly, what do you think were some of the influences on Zelensky that led him to disrespect the People's House in such a way?

00:15:42.740 Well, it was interesting to see Susan Rice, the former national security advisor to Joe Biden and also to Barack Obama, say that the meeting was a setup.

00:15:52.880 She's right about that.

00:15:53.760 But it was Zelensky who was trying to set up Trump.

00:15:57.840 There are credible reports that Zelensky met or spoke with former Secretary of State Antony Blinken, former Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland,

00:16:08.940 the architect of the disaster in Ukraine, as well as Susan Rice and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, as well as Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, who talked about it on his ex-speed.

00:16:24.060 Now, if they urged him to not to take a peace deal or not to sign an agreement regarding minerals, that is a serious violation of the Logan Act.

00:16:34.080 The Logan Act specifically says that private citizens cannot have their own foreign policy, that only the president can conduct foreign policy.

00:16:42.480 And contacting foreign leaders to urge them to undertake any course other than that that is the official policy of the United States is a serious crime.

00:16:51.520 You may remember Joe Biden wanted to jack up General Flynn, claiming that his conversations when he was named national security advisor with the ambassador to Russia violated the Logan Act.

00:17:05.440 They didn't because Flynn didn't propose any specific course of action, as we now know.

00:17:11.820 Back during the Vietnam War, when there were claims that after LBJ called for a bombing halt, that Nixon had passed word through an intermediary to the South Vietnamese, urging them not to go to the peace table prior to the election.

00:17:28.280 That turned out not to be true, according to historian Luke Nictor.

00:17:32.720 But it was widely believed, and the left went completely insane.

00:17:36.260 They said it was treason and that Nixon should have been prosecuted.

00:17:39.680 So, once again, you have the double standard.

00:17:42.500 This is something I think Kash Patel should investigate.

00:17:45.820 And if they did, in fact, get Wiesglinski and urge him not to cooperate with the president of the United States, they should be prosecuted.

00:17:54.560 Roger, and of course, we remember this.

00:17:56.220 We remember the Logan Act prosecution.

00:17:57.960 We remember Sally Yates leading that when she was the acting attorney general.

00:18:02.600 We remember all these investigations that were launched are completely nonsense into Flynn, who, by the way, was the incoming national security advisor duly appointed by the president-elect.

00:18:12.160 And now you have a situation where people who have no ties to government whatsoever would be getting in.

00:18:18.100 And, of course, why would Zelensky throw something like this, a deal which, look, I was there with him in Kiev when he reneged on the deal with Besant.

00:18:27.700 Then he goes to Munich and he reneged on the deal with J.D. Vance.

00:18:31.000 So, finally, you would think, Roger, I thought for sure that what he really wanted out of all of this was an Oval Office visit, that he wanted that to be able to show face back home.

00:18:41.920 He's going to have to run for president again at some point in Ukraine after the war is over and martial law runs out.

00:18:47.280 So, certainly, you would go to that signing ceremony, which, and by the way, for folks who think this was some kind of pre-planned ambush or something, the pens were already laid out.

00:18:58.300 The documents were laid out in the East Room of the White House.

00:19:01.740 This was a done deal.

00:19:03.260 And it was Zelensky himself and his actions potentially, as you say, acting on the advice of Susan Rice and others to scuttle it.

00:19:11.700 Well, let's remember, Zelensky is an actor by trade.

00:19:15.940 He's a comedic actor.

00:19:18.060 I always thought that he was an actor, frankly, played to play the part of a president by the oligarchs in Ukraine.

00:19:25.340 And his goal here was to provoke Trump.

00:19:29.100 The president preempted him when Zelensky insisted that the $350 billion we've given him is a gift or a grant.

00:19:37.280 And that he shouldn't have to pay any of it back, that the president correctly saw as disrespectful to the American people.

00:19:44.000 Tell you the other thing, Jack, that bothers me.

00:19:46.000 We give this guy $350 billion.

00:19:49.220 He can't wear a suit and tie to meet the president of the United States.

00:19:52.120 He wore a suit and tie when he spoke to the World Economic Forum. 0.94

00:19:55.560 He wore a suit and tie when he went to kiss the butt of Klaus Schwab and the globalists.

00:20:00.040 But when he addresses a joint session of Congress or when he visits the president of the United States, he can't wear a suit and tie.

00:20:06.420 Even Elon Musk recognized the decorum of the U.S. House of Representatives, the floor of the Congress, and he wore a suit for the president's State of the Union.

00:20:15.480 By the way, I think he looked great in it.

00:20:17.360 So this lack of respect or this playing a role.

00:20:21.880 You know, Castro used to do this, the communist dictator.

00:20:24.740 Precisely, Roger.

00:20:25.340 We're coming up on a quick break.

00:20:26.700 By the way, shout out to our own Brian Glenn at Real America's Voice, who pushed Zelensky and pressed him on that question about a suit and tie in the People's Oval Office of the People's House.

00:20:38.860 We'll be right back.

00:20:44.140 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:20:47.280 Where is Jack?

00:20:49.460 Where is he?

00:20:50.740 Jack, I want to see you.

00:20:52.280 Great job, Jack.

00:20:55.920 Thank you.

00:20:56.700 What a job you do.

00:20:58.100 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:20:59.500 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisers.

00:21:05.260 All right, folks, here we are back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

00:21:11.740 I want to also welcome in the third hour of the Charlie Kirk Show on the Salem Radio Network.

00:21:17.700 We are here discussing all things political with veteran political strategist Roger Stone.

00:21:24.300 But Roger also had an interesting article that he posted a couple nights ago.

00:21:28.920 And I have to say, I read the entire thing word for word, because a lot of folks have been looking at the failing health of Pope Francis.

00:21:37.960 Pope Francis, seen as a member of the liberal wing of the church, someone who's championed a number of issues that are in line with liberal causes, immigration, open border immigration, climate change.

00:21:52.520 But has also stood for things like pro-life, has stood up against the idea of women being in the pulpit as priests, and also, by the way, is a vocal opponent of the Ukraine war and is constantly called for peace.

00:22:06.960 Well, he's been in the hospital for weeks on Ash Wednesday.

00:22:11.500 He was not able to say mass in the Vatican, was required to have a cardinal to replace him.

00:22:19.600 And Roger has written an article about the potential process, should it occur, for selecting the next pope.

00:22:27.700 Roger, when you apply the art of political prognostication or election prognostication to something like the papacy, is it much different from when you're looking at, say, a seat in Congress or a presidential race?

00:22:41.600 You know, people tell you that the church or the military is not political, and of course, they're entirely political, Jack.

00:22:48.080 So let's look at the process.

00:22:49.860 If the pope goes on to meet his maker, you would have what is called a conclave.

00:22:55.520 This is a gathering of all the popes from around the world, with the exception of those over 80.

00:23:02.820 They are not permitted to vote.

00:23:04.460 That is a significant setback for the more conservative elements of the church, but it's based on a rule that came out of Vatican II.

00:23:13.560 So of the current College of Cardinals, 80% of them were chosen by Francis, who by any measure would have to be considered one of the most progressive popes in recent memory.

00:23:25.520 Anyway, these elections, there's a cap, and the number can slightly differ, the cap on the number of votes.

00:23:33.320 They meet in the Sistine Chapel.

00:23:35.320 They're essentially locked in, and they keep balloting until they have one candidate with a majority.

00:23:43.000 Each one of the cardinals writes the name of their chosen candidate on a slip of paper, folds it, places it in a chalice on the altar.

00:23:51.360 The ballots are counted by three scrutineers, and to win, a candidate needs two-thirds of the majority of the votes.

00:23:58.920 If nobody gets a majority, those ballots are burned with a chemical that smokes black.

00:24:04.060 And therefore, the smoke you see rising from the roof of the Sistine Chapel is black, means they do not yet have a pope.

00:24:11.580 Only when they have a pope do they use a different chemical mix, and the smoke is white.

00:24:19.320 The words habemis papem, meaning we have a pope, is announced from the balcony.

00:24:24.900 Now you look at the jockeying.

00:24:26.220 Here we go.

00:24:27.640 Cardinal Pietro Perolini, 70, of Italy.

00:24:31.100 He's the Vatican's secretary of state.

00:24:33.920 Perolini may be the current frontrunner, if there is one.

00:24:37.140 He's a moderate with extensive diplomatic experience.

00:24:40.060 He's viewed kind of as a continuum of the current pope.

00:24:44.100 Although he has some controversial dealings, such as the Vatican's agreement with China, that could complicate his candidacy.

00:24:51.600 Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle of the Philippines, known as the Asian Francis.

00:24:57.420 He's, again, a leader of the progressive wing of the church, and he follows the current pope's pastoral approach.

00:25:06.120 My sources tell me that he'd be the worst and probably the most left wing of the choices.

00:25:11.580 Cardinal Matteo Zuppi of Italy, another favorite of Pope Francis.

00:25:16.720 Zuppi is president of the Italian Episcopal Conference and a moderate known for his social justice advocacy.

00:25:24.200 Cardinal Freeland Ambrogo Basungi of the Congo.

00:25:29.040 He's a strong conservative voice.

00:25:31.320 I guess in a perfect world, he'd probably be my first choice.

00:25:34.980 He's a terrific long shot.

00:25:36.740 Remember, Jack, that 80% of these voters were appointed by the current pope.

00:25:41.880 A pope, Cardinal Wim Egypt, a former doctor, another conservative known for actually opposing Francis's views on marriage and abortion.

00:25:52.900 Pardon me, marriage and divorce.

00:25:55.140 His traditionalist stance would appeal to some cardinals to rebalance current reforms.

00:26:01.040 But he, again, is a long shot.

00:26:03.020 Cardinal Raymond Burke of the United States, an American traditionalist.

00:26:06.360 Burke has clashed with Francis on issues like marriage, the Eucharist, same-sex marriage.

00:26:11.920 He's a long shot, but he represents a more conservative vocal faction.

00:26:17.300 My sources think Burke would launch major reforms to strengthen the church until young Catholics who are overwhelmingly conservative are ready to take the helm.

00:26:25.580 Then there's Cardinal Peter Erdo of Hungary, 72, a conservative canon lawyer, respected for his adherence to church doctrine and his kind of low-profile approach.

00:26:37.600 He, again, would attract some moderate and conservative votes to the extent that there are conservative votes.

00:26:44.100 Remember, the current pope appointed 80% of the electorate in this particular election.

00:26:50.160 And then, of course, there's Cardinal Mario Grish of Malta.

00:26:54.040 He is the secretary general of the Synod of Bishops.

00:26:58.020 He's a Francis appointee with an extremely progressive bent, emphasizing dialogue with marginalized groups.

00:27:05.760 So if I had my pick, I would take Cardinal Robert Serra of Guinea.

00:27:10.180 He'd be my first choice.

00:27:11.320 He's a staunch conservative, a defender of the faith in the church, believes in borders, believes in the rules of the West.

00:27:17.660 We really couldn't do better than Cardinal Robert Serra of Guinea.

00:27:21.480 So, Roger, for folks that aren't even familiar with the way the College of Cardinals works, for the understanding of them, to be able to be voted on at all, one must be a member of the Cardinals.

00:27:38.020 And so this is your highest rung of the prelates of the church, other than the papacy itself.

00:27:44.520 From those ranks, someone must be chosen.

00:27:47.680 It doesn't have to be a Cardinal, but it is generally a Cardinal.

00:27:50.680 And I believe one of the requirements is that they must be under 80 years old.

00:27:54.780 That is one of the great disadvantages.

00:27:57.600 It's one thing to say that the Pope should be under 80, but to deny a vote among the Cardinals for those Cardinals who are over 80 years, this makes no sense to me.

00:28:06.920 In fact, somebody who's 80 years old would be very wise.

00:28:09.740 That's someone you would want voting.

00:28:12.060 We had a president, Ronald Reagan.

00:28:14.580 He was 80 when he left office.

00:28:16.760 He was among our greatest presidents.

00:28:18.620 I think Donald Trump is 77.

00:28:21.120 Why would you exclude those over 80, unless, of course, it's politics, which is what this is about?

00:28:27.880 Well, that's right.

00:28:28.840 And this is a new—so basically the idea is then that creates basically a quorum of people who were not appointed by previous popes, so Benedict or any of the John Paul II Cardinals, if they're still around, that they wouldn't be able to participate in the voting.

00:28:45.160 And then it sets itself up in such a way where Francis essentially is sort of giving the inside track to his own successor.

00:28:52.940 Do you believe that Pope Francis has picked a successor?

00:28:57.900 My guess is he probably has.

00:29:00.160 Look, it's disappointing because, Jack, like you, when I was raised in the church, it was a bulk work of anti-communism.

00:29:07.920 I watched, you know, Father Fulton Sheen on WPIX in New York growing up.

00:29:16.280 That Catholic church does not seem to exist except for in certain parishes.

00:29:21.720 And outspoken conservatives like Bergano and others are actually excommunicated when they disagree with this pope.

00:29:29.640 Now, I've seen this pope say that the Bible specifically says that Jesus Christ was opposed to private property rights.

00:29:37.600 That's not true.

00:29:38.640 That's false.

00:29:40.140 So, look, the Bible is a practical document.

00:29:43.000 I didn't always know this.

00:29:44.000 I know it today.

00:29:45.320 And it can be read for its literal word.

00:29:48.780 But some of the things that have been projected onto it are shocking.

00:29:52.740 Yes, as Catholics, we have to have a concern for the poor.

00:29:56.620 But in both the Old Testament and the New, hard work is highly prized, self-enterprise and self-responsibility.

00:30:06.400 These are also enumerated in the Bible.

00:30:08.900 You wouldn't know it from this pope.

00:30:12.180 Well, that's exactly right, Roger.

00:30:13.860 And, in fact, there are many items of doctrine, capital punishment and others that have been longstanding practices within the church,

00:30:21.060 that Pope Francis and the Jesuit, and he is of the Jesuit stripe, that have sought to overturn a doctrine that has been in touch for a long time.

00:30:31.840 By the way, this is also, and we've been discussing it here on the show.

00:30:36.040 I had an op-ed on humanevents.com that went quite viral because we've been discussing the effect that this has had on one Amy Coney Barrett,

00:30:45.560 where she seems to have taken Pope Francis' words and rhetoric over the actual doctrine of the church

00:30:53.360 and certainly over the jurisprudence of the Supreme Court itself and the Constitution itself

00:30:58.980 and is taking sort of these ideas of Pope Francis and seemingly putting them into her decisions

00:31:07.280 rather than looking at the longstanding practices of the church, if she is, as she claims to be, a practicing Catholic.

00:31:13.240 What about Thomas Aquinas?

00:31:14.780 What about Augustine of Hippo?

00:31:16.160 What about the church fathers?

00:31:17.580 What about all of the popes prior to Pope Francis,

00:31:20.820 who have been in longstanding opposition to many of the things that he said?

00:31:25.240 Well, she seems to be applying that to her voting now,

00:31:29.180 and it has led to situations where she'll say that the President of the United States doesn't even have authority to defund programs.

00:31:37.280 You know, back at the time that she was under consideration,

00:31:41.020 the great argument was that she was a great pro-life champion.

00:31:47.440 I was skeptical about her appointment then.

00:31:50.600 Think how different things would be if President Trump had appointed Judge Andrew Napolitano to the court,

00:31:57.060 which is who I think he should have appointed.

00:32:00.360 Gorsuch is somewhat of a libertarian, being joined on the court by Napolitano, another libertarian,

00:32:06.440 we'd have a very different day today on the so-called Roberts court.

00:32:11.880 Amy Comey Barrett has been a horrific disappointment.

00:32:17.380 Frankly, so has Kavanaugh, but if you knew, understood Kavanaugh's ties to the Clintons and the Bushes,

00:32:23.520 you would have understood that prior to his being appointed as well.

00:32:26.420 I think that's very sound, and I think it's something where, look, you know, a lot of us have talked about this,

00:32:35.900 and I came out with a, you know, perhaps a little bit provocative article, but hey, you know,

00:32:40.880 it's kind of on brand for me where I said that this shows the danger of Republican DEI

00:32:45.920 because people kept saying we need to nominate a woman to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg,

00:32:50.540 we need to, Trump needs to nominate a woman because it was an election year, it was 2020 at the time,

00:32:55.700 and as it turned out, it had no effect on the election whatsoever.

00:32:59.160 Obviously, there are a lot of other issues with the 2020 election,

00:33:02.060 but it's also painted us into a corner where just because she was pro-life,

00:33:06.980 and certainly there's no shortage of pro-life conservatives in the legal field,

00:33:11.800 now we've got someone who's essentially a pro-life liberal on the court for the rest of her life. 1.00

00:33:18.140 Stay tuned, we'll be right back with more Roger Stone, myself here,

00:33:22.020 Real America's Voice, and Hour 3 at the Charlie Kirk Show on Salem Radio Network.

00:33:34.180 Jack is a great guy, he's written that fantastic book, everybody's talking about it, go get it,

00:33:39.220 and he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event,

00:33:43.760 and we're going to turn it around and make our country quite a good day. Amen.

00:33:49.300 Ryan Ruth will appear for a status hearing in Florida. He's set to go to trial this fall.

00:33:55.360 However, both of these cases still yielding a lot of questions. President Trump yesterday in the Oval

00:34:02.300 office was defiant, and now he has allies leading both the FBI and Kash Patel,

00:34:08.120 the director and Secret Service director, Sean Curran. Here's more from the president yesterday.

00:34:13.880 They are giving me a report next week sometime, and I do believe I'll be releasing. I want to

00:34:21.140 release the report. I mean, maybe there's a reason that we shouldn't, so I don't want to get too far

00:34:26.200 ahead of my skis, but yeah, I wouldn't be very willing to release that. Murder authorities say

00:34:32.000 he waited for hours in the bushes at the president's golf club in West Palm Beach last September,

00:34:37.160 hoping to take a shot. A Secret Service agent luckily thwarted that plot, and Ruth was later captured.

00:34:43.780 When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:34:57.880 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back live with Roger Stone. You saw that clip there in the quick break

00:35:04.300 for those of you watching on TV that Ryan Ruth will be in court today. We're also getting breaking out

00:35:10.480 of that case that 100, more than 100 federal agents have handled evidence in the Ryan Ruth case,

00:35:17.800 and they had, the FBI was required to buy a special 10 terabyte drive for the discovery in this case.

00:35:25.000 Ryan Ruth, of course, we broke the story about his ties to the Azov Battalion over in Ukraine.

00:35:30.440 The fact remains that he was a Ukrainian foreign fighter who then came to the United States using

00:35:37.680 a Soviet-style rifle to attempt to kill Donald Trump. Roger, you've written about the JFK

00:35:45.000 assassination extensively. We obviously, of course, are waiting for Anna Paulina Luna and the others

00:35:51.460 on this task force to release those files. Do you believe that President Trump will actually be able

00:35:57.400 to get this information out in front of the American people?

00:35:59.680 I think it's absolutely essential that he does. In both the case of Butler, Pennsylvania and the case

00:36:06.640 regarding West Palm, we still have more questions than we have answers. And I think that's due to a

00:36:13.880 cover-up. Let's take Butler. We know that there's a man with a gun. The Secret Service knows that.

00:36:21.060 The state and local police know that. They know that he's inside the preventer for 91 minutes. He's been

00:36:26.900 seen with a rangefinder and a firearm, yet nobody informs the president's direct detail, and the

00:36:32.580 president is not evacuated. Additionally, the federal, state, and local police are all on different radio

00:36:40.100 frequencies, so they can't speak to each other. The Secret Service declines two offers by the local

00:36:46.900 police to conduct drone surveillance of the entire sealed perimeter area, yet they don't end up doing

00:36:54.100 it themselves as they say they're going to, because they say they can't get their federal technology,

00:36:59.220 which is new to them, to actually operate. The building should have been searched and sealed

00:37:06.180 under the Secret Service manual, but of course it wasn't. And we also have the situation in which

00:37:13.540 the man they claim shot President Trump, Thomas Matthew Crooks, is shot and killed. Because,

00:37:20.260 well, like Lee Harvey Oswald, dead men tell no tales. We can still see photographs of him talking

00:37:26.500 on the telephone, but our government agencies can't tell us who it is he was talking to.

00:37:32.420 Apple refuses to turn over his records, but they had no problem turning over my records to Robert

00:37:38.100 Mueller before they even got a subpoena for them. So yeah, I think it reeks of cover-up.

00:37:42.980 In the case of West Palm Beach, here's a man that we're told is indigent, he's behind in his rent

00:37:50.740 payments, he's behind in his alimony, yet he can afford to travel to all these European capitals,

00:37:57.620 where we've seen pictures of them, including Kyiv. He can afford to post a website to recruit

00:38:03.780 mercenary fighters to go and fight in Ukraine. How did he get a gun in the United States? He certainly 0.99

00:38:10.260 didn't fly here with one. Now, he had no trouble flying here, because unlike Tulsi Gabbard,

00:38:16.100 this guy evidently was not on a secret TSA, domestic terrorist watch list. But it looks to me

00:38:22.420 like he should have been. So I say this constantly in my own shows, you've said it as well, Jack,

00:38:29.220 praying for our president is one of the most important things we can do today. They've tried to kill him

00:38:34.180 twice. I say they, the deep state. And that doesn't mean they will not try again. In fact, given the 0.73

00:38:40.740 momentous reforms and his drive for full exposure of the epic corruption waste and, yes, absolute treason

00:38:50.820 within our government, he's very, very dangerous to them. He's an existential threat to the deep state

00:38:56.740 today. Exactly right. And we need all of the information. Roger, tell us about, I understand

00:39:01.940 you have an announcement about a new evening show that's going to be going on weeknights.

00:39:07.860 Yeah, it's great. Jack on 77 WABC and the Apple Audio Network, Red Apple Audio Network, pardon me.

00:39:16.900 I'm now doing a show in primetime every night at 8 p.m. Eastern. You can get that by going to

00:39:22.980 wabcradio.com, wabcradio.com every weeknight. And then Sunday, still two hours now on Sundays.

00:39:31.220 That's the Roger Stone Show. You hear it all by going to wabcradio.com.

00:39:37.460 That's a lot of Roger Stone content. And do you still have the website up at stonezone.com for the

00:39:42.340 books? Absolutely. You can go to stonezone.com. Still turning out print journalism there. I've got a

00:39:48.500 a new piece up on Andrew and Tristan Tate coming to Florida. I have a piece that's about to go up on

00:39:56.180 the parallels between President Nixon and President Trump. Many, many, many parallels. The fact they're

00:40:03.220 both trying to extract America from a costly war. The fact that they deeply distrust the DC bureaucracy

00:40:09.780 and the liberal media. Many, many, many parallels. And also both set up by the deep state. Roger Stone,

00:40:17.220 God bless. Thank you so much for your time with us here today, Human Events Daily. Once again,

00:40:22.100 ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 07, 2025

NEOCONS LOSING IT OVER TRUMP PEACE PLAN FOR UKRAINE, MAGA IS THE CHOICE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

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