New Media's Battle for American Minds w⧸ James O'Keefe, Laura Logan and Eva Vlaar
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Today's episode is a special edition of Human Events Daily featuring a keynote address from General Michael Flynn's New Media Summit in Washington, D.C. on the need for an independent media that challenges the narrative, disrupts the narrative and gets the truth out.
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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
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Today we have a very special edition of Human Events daily for you.
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Look, we are here at General Flynn's new media summit.
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And we're so glad that Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily, are able to be here and
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Because we're meeting with people from all across the spectrum, and in fact, all across
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the world in ways that the mainstream media just will not do.
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How you can actually get the facts, spread it out through using social media, using independent
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networks like Real America's Voice over the top, and then going and telling that story.
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So, I just came from a summit on the ending the persecution of Christians worldwide.
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I think that's emblematic of where we stand today, is that it's a real indictment on us
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as journalists that most of the world has no idea that for the past 20 plus years since
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the day of 9-11, there has been a systematic, organized campaign to massacre Christians
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across the isolated rural villages of Mildon, Nigeria.
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And when it finally comes to light, what does Al Jazeera do and all these other journalists?
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It could have always been denying that it's true.
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And you're just like, I'm just like, so the last five, six years I spent documenting one
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I mean, I was walking at dinner on a Friday night.
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I got a picture of a 17-year-old, 16, 17-year-old girl who was pregnant, having your head hacked
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off while they had the body out of, the baby out of her stomach.
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And you're going to sit there and tell me that this is something made up by the right
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I will, I just, I cannot come to you strongly enough and say that we are in an absolute
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General Flynn has articulated this with Gimmy's Hina, wonderful, much-missed Spoon Cutler.
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In his book, Set Generation Welfare, that is the battle for our mind.
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But we are in battle for our minds and our souls.
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And when you deny that people are being murdered, you lose your soul.
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And, you know, I just, I see Angela Standing King.
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But Angela is one of the people that brought me to a basic truth because she saves babies
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And she talks about saving children from murder.
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And so what is so important about that is we as juniors have been derelict in our duty
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to the truth and, and into pursuing the truth, regardless of person, how else we've become
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instruments of propaganda and God bless independent media and the rise of independent media.
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So it's when we dance on the graves of, you know, CNN and the New York Times and shows how
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You know what you don't have when you lose your advertising revenue from big farmer and
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you lose the corporations, you lose first-hand journalists.
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I spent five years in Iraq as the chief foreign firstborn of the CBS News.
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That costs how many millions, millions of dollars?
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What independent media or outlet can afford that?
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Now, it's no use if you're going to put people on the ground and they're not going to tell
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I'm not standing in defense of mainstream media.
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I'm standing in defense of the principles of real journalism and the reality that it
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It costs money to invest in time and in people.
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And, you know, unless you're the one in a million, I don't know, James does pretty well
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He does 19,000 different jobs at the same time.
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And somehow manages to run his own organization, fight off more loose lawsuits that you can,
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And I still manage his schemes of independent justice.
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And yet, he's still got to battle the right to even be called a journalist because the New
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York, the brave lady deems him to be a far-right activist.
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And I receive this amazing woman, Ava, here, who I look at, you know, I see her as a vision
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of what I would like to remember myself has been 20 years ago with that face.
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When I was younger and thinner and, you know, and, and perfect, because every time she comes
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She has consistently, over time, built up a bank of knowledge.
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There was a time in journalists, it had to be, we had to be historians and we had to
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I did a Bachelor of Commerce theory, not because I wanted to know anything about Karl Marx.
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You know, because I have a, I have a shield of protection around and, uh, I had to force
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myself to go there because I had to understand how money worked because it was obvious that
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money and power drive these things that you're seeing when you're standing at the door of
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a mulcher and you're 17 years old and you're making frames with the guy running it because
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you want to know how many bodies there are inside because the South African government at
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the time, when I was a young girl doing this reporting, lie about all of that.
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And that does not mean, God bless them, I'm sorry, showing up in Aurora, Colorado with a
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small camera, going around asking people if they're a member of the cartel.
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I mean, that journalist, I'm sorry, put him up against the wall and shoot him in the head
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Because every person in that building will be killed if they tell you that they're a member
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So that's not what I mean by firsthand journalism.
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And in our way and our golden age has just begun.
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We have forgotten we don't have newsrooms anymore.
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If I had a nickel for every time I was bouncing into my boss's office and told him about a story
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and he ripped me to shreds in four and a half seconds, you know, because reality intrudes.
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We have a saying in journalism that never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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Don't stick with it because of belief or ideology or anything else.
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We don't go into court and cherry pick evidence to make a case.
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Our job is to do everything we can to find not just part of the truth, but the whole truth.
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Because something can be true, but if you distort it and you focus on it and you put that out,
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but everything else, you can still be as deceptive and misleading as the people who lie blatantly.
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Because when a Christian truly understands the subject, it's of value to all of us.
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If I never understood I'm living in Iraq, I know Shiite militias, I know Iraqi terrorists,
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I know the government, I know soldiers, I know people all across the country.
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And yet somehow every U.S. ambassador or state department official or military official or, you know,
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White House official who came to the country, they wanted to bring that enter from New York
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but never spent four and a half seconds in the country.
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And they opened the doors, the red politics, and you'd think, but why?
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And it's because they don't want to sit down with someone who knows enough to join them.
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The superficial is the death of real journalism.
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And when journalists don't have resources behind them, what they do is superficial.
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What I do half of them, commenting on things online.
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Independent media is both our salvation and also our monster.
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And if we don't guard it and protect it and fight for it,
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and if we don't recognize that there are real principles to real journalism
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and separate that from opinion, which is completely valid,
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opinion journalism, there's always an opinion pages in newspapers.
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There's always room for analysis when you take someone.
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But when you, and I hear people who are not lawyers,
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and I see judges and lawyers on TV talking to you about,
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nobody's going to prison for treason and tradition,
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and by the way, there's a statute of limitations.
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Allowing people to get away with this nonsense is,
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I mean, to me it's the equivalent of being a co-conspirator
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And we have to hold people accountable for that.
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You can't take the murderer that's accused of serial,
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being a serial killer, and put him up there as if he's an expert
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And to allow CBS News to put a guy on there as the deputy head of the CIA
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you're doing the biggest cover-up of one of the most damaging
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intelligence operations against this country and against this nation,
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and you're allowing him to go out there like he's some independent,
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It's an outrage, but they get away with it because we allow them to get away with it.
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So it's hard to know what that really means unless you've been through it.
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We were all sitting together at the breakers and it was like everyone,
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our State Department would be issuing sanctions against that country.
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So I've been asked to talk about what independent media is and what my views are
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I don't know if the commercial imperative is compatible with truth-telling.
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I don't know if the commercial imperative is compatible with investigative journalism.
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you watched your piece dozens of times before you aired it?
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And the discipline of verification is what separates propaganda from,
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The discipline of verification is what separates journalism from propaganda.
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The incentives are to make money and to get clicks.
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because that's what your audience wants to hear.
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Is your people are just saying crazy bulls because there's money in it.
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whether we're NGOs or corporations or LLCs or five,
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You have assets and you have something called the flyability.
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My liabilities are always going to exceed my assets.
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Charlie was there for me when that happened and lifted me up.
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And the hardest thing about what I do is to find people with the integrity.
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so I think it's a problem that we have all this opinion.
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I am an optimist for reasons I will tell you right now.
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but I went undercover and I wore this ridiculous wig,
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I did it because they're so incompetent and corrupt.
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when you were actually going to the psychology of it,
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I do not expect you to repeat that very long Dutch last name.
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I'm extremely aware of how different our situation in Europe is.
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as much as I love hearing you guys talk about how you should do better,
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we have a lot of work to do to even get to that point.
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but I'll just sketch out our media landscape for you for a second.
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We don't have not even one media outlet that pretends to be right way.
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We don't have legacy media that even pretend to represent their rights from the center.
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So go figure what our legacy media landscape looks like.
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And then think about how important the rise of independent media voices in our countries really is.
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And that process is also going way too slow because we don't have a Lara.
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the situation wouldn't be as gayer as the one that we are in today.
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I realized that I have never called myself a journalist.
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Haven't ever called myself a journalist because I never have called,
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a journalist by the people who call themselves journalists.
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I hope I have more objective reporting and I do more objective reporting than they ever will.
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I might have more reach and influence than they combined do,
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I call myself a political commentator because I do openly voice my opinions.
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is that we are heading for utter and total destruction.
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That's one of the subjects that I focus most on in my recording because it is underreported.
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Those are the things that I try to bring to the forefront.
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even though you would think that it's obvious for everyone.
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is that we have many different cultural identities.
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and it makes pointing out the similar issues that we are dealing with difficult
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the murders that you are hearing about in Europe as a result of mass immigration.
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And so what I try to do is highlight as often as I can what is happening.
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And I truly feel like a broken record talking about these cases day in,
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We are still at the point where I have to tell people that over and over again.
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I think one of the biggest challenges when it comes to independent media is that we,
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but we also have to fight DAF against the institutions that try to silence us.
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let me allow me to go back to my small country for a moment,
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We don't have freedom of speech the way that you do.
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We have criminal codes that make it illegal to offend groups.
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So if I say something that is offensive to a group,
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How can a judge decide on behalf of a group that they are all collectively offended?
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and people actually get convicted for those types of hate crimes,
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And so speaking about the cases that I just mentioned to you,
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the connection between mass immigration and crime,
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the sacrificing of our children on the altar of mass migration,
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that is and can be qualified as illegal hate speech,
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we wouldn't even hear about half of these stories,
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The independent journalists of Europe are on X.
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That's the only place where we can voice our opinions somewhat safely,
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but even X is being targeted by the European Union with the Digital Services Act.
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I don't want to bore you with all of the details of that,
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And it's a censorship act that is now official law in all European countries,
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A supranational organization decides for us what our laws are,
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and what we are allowed and not allowed to say.
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I want to instill in you the urgency of the situation in Europe,
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and how much we need your help to get this message out there,
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because we're fighting many monsters at the same time.
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We're always talking about the fake news and the bad,
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and these are the guys who should be getting policemen.
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Never thought I'd have the opportunity to be on,
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and of course it was in the wake of Charlie's murder.
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And the reporter, field journalist who came on,
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when you go into one of these interviews with anyone,
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Because all of the audiences are bifurcated now
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It was the nation's leader in terms of stories,
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because you listen to a different form of media
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This is the first time I've been back to the building
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And I think there was a question at the time of,
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will this political violence beget more political violence?
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we are seeing asymmetric civil warfare breaking out across the country.
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go ask my friend because he's in a box right now.
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Charlie Kirk was murdered because he told the truth.
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And he told the truth to people that never would have otherwise heard it.
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because they couldn't beat him in terms of his reach,
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which was growing exponentially every single day.
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they absolutely failed because of all the people in this room,
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because of all the people who saw what happened,
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because of thousands upon thousands of students and young people,
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that saw what happened are never going to forget the murder of Charlie Kirk.
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But going out there into the modern public swear at the modern,
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what could be more of the modern public swear than going on to Apollos Chambers
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And I thought something that was really interesting that I've,
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And she does an incredible job every single day,
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working in independent media to do the verification,
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to make sure that everything that gets put out is true.
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And of course the media is very upset with us because not only do we have
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but we are now part of the new Pentagon press corps because they,
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So we had now replaced the legacy media inside the Pentagon.
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And I know that's maybe radical for you guys here,
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but we're just going to tell the truth about what's actually going on in,
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one of the things that was kind of existential and interesting for us is that
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I think it was on last Friday in one of the filings of,
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just put up a client to say they want to ban Hanra's from a courtroom in the
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This is a right that we want in a free society.
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I want her to put a spot back on her first act because it was so beautiful.
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Charlie Kirk didn't have a say in whether or not his murder would be public.
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And therefore Charlie Kirk's trial of the murder of Charlie Kirk should also be done in public the same way that his murder was.
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So human events just file a submission with that port room and Utah completely opposing this ban and saying that we are going to come down and oppose this.
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We're going to get law lawyers involved if we have to,
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to make sure that everyone has a full open and accounting of the situation,
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I'm happy to announce court TB just came in and is also supporting the effort now.
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It's going to continue to grow because the public has a right to know the public has a right to know everything.
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This is the difference between a free society and a closed society.
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And the difference is because when you say you have a courtroom in your port,
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but when you have cameras rolling and you have the doors open,
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the federal courtroom does have the ability to members of the public to go and
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And it is one of our best traditions that justice should be done in public.
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And if you have something to tell that you shouldn't be able to hide it,
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you should put it out because that is a check on the entire system by the people in a free society.
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It's the absolute line that you draw between a free society and a totalitarian society.
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The people have the power and the people had a right to know.
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And all of these issues come into bear there because you think,
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Of course the public should have a check on the system.
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ultimately is the backstop of every single system of media,
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and if we are going to continue to fight for the legacy of Charlie Kerr,
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then we have to do the same thing that he always did.
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He allowed me even onto his platform for some reason.
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all of us would go to turning point events and be up there.
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James would have these elaborate musical performances.
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it was multimedia and push the boundaries and interact with people in ways
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I've come to appreciate a little bit more was that Charlie never lost sight,
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Charlie was on every social media dominated every single platform he ever even
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He never lost sight of trying to connect with people in person,
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And when he would bring someone up to the front and he would always say this,
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and we saw JD and Erica were down at university of Mississippi,
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I want to connect with this person individually in real life,
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And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
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And we're going to turn it around and make our country great.
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because when we do things through the virtual space,
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when we do things on these little pieces of glass that we carry around in our
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we lose sight of the fact that there's a real person on the other side,
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And that a person who shot Charlie Kirk didn't think of Charlie Kirk as a
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who Eric for dope forgave in an incredible act of Christian charity.
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But you look at how disassociated he was from reality.
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He was someone who was involved guests in a transsexual relationship with a
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He is someone who was involved with extreme pornography,
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where he was watching simulators that allowed him to pretend he was,
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half human hybrid performing extreme sexual acts on other furries.
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And this was a game that he played in his era of time.
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So total disassociation with reality and throwing himself into this internet
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one of the biggest threats of our time is that if we forget about the real
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if we forget about meeting one another as an individual and totally throw
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ourselves into these internet based identities,
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which are not identities that are provided to us by our creator.
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And that's why I realized that Charlie focused so much on bringing people
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back to the physical space and bringing people together.
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the fact that Charlie was murdered on live stream.
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It wasn't just an attack on Western culture and Western civilization.
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and I don't even have to ask people to raise their hands.
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And I know that Charlie's kids will see it one day,
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It's an attack on us and it was designed to be an attack on us through social media.
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So we need to become wary as well when we are consuming this,
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that these are new attack vectors on all of us,
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that we need to build not just physical defenses of,
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but psychological and spiritual defenses of as well.
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And that's why everything that Charlie did and what we're trying to do even more and more
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is to put God at the center of every single thing that we do,
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because nothing that comes from God can be bad,
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I listed off a group of character traits of what I felt from these people that I have gotten to know
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and one of them has to do with courage and passion,
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and I know that the deal of a couple other people,
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and really the umbrella is our ability to be able to speak freely about what we want,
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what we believe in, right, our country, our faith, right,
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the freedoms that we cherish, that many, many have sacrificed for.
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and we're here today, because her and I, a couple of years ago,
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she, and she probably didn't even remember the conversation, but I do,
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we talk about figuring out how do we grasp what has happened in the world of the media,
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and we had a long conversation about the Washington, D.C. Correspondent Bureau,
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and, you know, the failure of that organization, frankly,
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And so the main points, and they just talked about it,
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it's to be truthful, be accurate, and be responsible.
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I mean, if you think about that, be yourself, right?
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And so, you know, I know everybody's got busy lives here.
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I particularly appreciate you guys being here and being part of this
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because what you're seeing is this is a tectonic shift in the world of information, okay?
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And that's a world that I am very familiar with.
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And we are going through this very, very historic move
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that is causing the world to go in a different direction.
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And Jack, we're not really going to talk too much about it today.
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That'll be something down the road is artificial intelligence.
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I mean, and so that's another aspect of being able to discern.
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You know, you used the word, and we've heard the word discernment,
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and Larry used it as well, this idea about discernment,
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which is take it to me, I just take it as take a deep breath,
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understand what it is that you're hearing and seeing,
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what is it that are, you know, what values you have
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that kind of will synthesize all that information together,
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But actually, we are going to face trials here, right?
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We're going to face trials here, I know, in our country.
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We're going to face trials here in the coming weeks,
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And what we heard earlier, you know, from Ukraine.
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I mean, the other side of what we're talking about,
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And I've done all over the world, and I'm telling you,
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there's no actual, I'd tell pastors, I'd tell pastors,
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because the only reason you can talk from the pulpit
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about your religion is because there's something
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So you can't, you know, like, let's get with it.
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and Trump actually did us all a favor with, you know,
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and Don talked about it with what we're already seeing
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in the United Kingdom, you know, in the Netherlands,
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And trying to figure out, because things happen,
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But without fighters, without courageous fighters,
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there's entrepreneurial spirit, there's having that, right?
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Yea, that I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
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You can go for the bright light, shiny thing, right?
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and it's a long journey out of that's about it, okay?
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And I'm getting chills because I have been there.
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others that we've had here represented already,
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but these are people who have been in that valley,
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and it's like, you know, like my mother would say,