Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - PENNY & MANGIONE ARE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN LAW AND ORDER BREAK DOWN AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM STOPS WORKING

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00:01:35.700 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:01:46.700 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:01:50.000 Christ is dead.

00:01:51.080 I stand in full support and wholeheartedly agree with the statements that President Trump

00:01:54.960 has made over these last few days with regards to the developments in Syria.

00:02:00.000 My own views and experiences have been shaped by my multiple deployments and seeing firsthand

00:02:07.320 the cost of war.

00:02:08.380 It's one of the many reasons why I appreciate President Trump's leadership and his election,

00:02:13.100 where he is fully committed, as he has said over and over, to bringing about an end to

00:02:17.820 wars, demonstrating peace through strength.

00:02:20.960 The downfall of the Assad regime in Syria has raised hopes that more information could come

00:02:25.640 to light on the whereabouts of U.S. citizen Austin Tice.

00:02:29.960 Tice, a Marine veteran and freelance journalist, disappeared over 12 years ago while reporting

00:02:35.540 on the Syrian civil war.

00:02:37.180 After a jury cleared a Marine veteran who placed a chokehold that led to the death of

00:02:42.060 Jordan Neely on the New York City subway, Daniel Penney was found not guilty of criminally

00:02:47.020 negligent homicide.

00:02:48.720 What's his name?

00:02:49.940 Jordan Neely.

00:02:51.060 What's his name?

00:02:52.140 Jordan Neely.

00:02:53.300 No justice.

00:02:54.320 No peace.

00:02:55.160 No peace.

00:02:56.140 No peace.

00:02:56.900 The fact that a person may express no remorse indicates that there's a risk that it may

00:03:02.720 happen again.

00:03:03.360 And if we do not want to unleash that level of violence, then we should exert a level

00:03:08.380 of accountability to prevent that from happening again.

00:03:11.320 If you're on the American left tonight, here's my chart.

00:03:14.140 The good guys today, Daniel Penney.

00:03:16.240 The bad guys, Luigi Mangione.

00:03:18.820 It seems to me.

00:03:19.760 How do you?

00:03:20.560 Everybody on the left.

00:03:21.240 What's the chart for victims?

00:03:23.340 I'm just telling you what I see out in the world today.

00:03:25.080 I know, I know.

00:03:25.840 I just want you to finish the chart.

00:03:27.560 Manhattan prosecutors filing a murder charge against Luigi Mangione for last week's shooting

00:03:32.340 of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

00:03:34.800 A senior law enforcement official confirming to NBC News that a handwritten note saying in 0.63

00:03:39.600 part, these parasites had it coming, was recovered.

00:03:43.080 I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately, you know, because it feels

00:03:48.740 like-

00:03:49.460 Serious?

00:03:49.960 I mean-

00:03:50.960 Joy in the man's execution?

00:03:52.580 Maybe not joy, but certainly not empathy.

00:03:55.220 Breaking overnight.

00:03:56.140 U.S. representative from Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Greene, says that a woman has died after

00:04:01.380 getting into a car wreck with a police officer who was responding to a reported bomb threat

00:04:06.040 at her house in Rome.

00:04:07.720 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:04:12.360 Here we are live, Washington, D.C. Today is December 10th, 2024, Anno Domini.

00:04:19.260 So everybody's talking about Daniel Penny and Luigi Mangione.

00:04:24.600 Daniel Penny and Luigi Mangione.

00:04:28.100 For Daniel Penny's case, people are saying, is this the system's fault?

00:04:32.380 Why was he let off?

00:04:33.900 Others are saying, like myself, that he's a hero and he did what he had to do to save lives.

00:04:42.440 Whereas with Luigi Mangione, other people are saying, oh, his supporters say, oh, he's a

00:04:46.840 hero.

00:04:47.420 He did it. 1.00

00:04:48.120 These people are parasites. 1.00

00:04:49.300 We agree. 1.00

00:04:49.920 You saw Taylor Renz there saying she felt joy that a CEO, business leader was murdered in

00:04:55.260 the street, a man with a wife and children, whereas others like myself say, this is the

00:05:02.980 unraveling of law and order.

00:05:05.260 But let me, let me step back.

00:05:07.940 Let me step back for a second.

00:05:10.040 These are both symptoms of a wider problem in America.

00:05:14.060 And the wider problem in America is this.

00:05:17.720 We have a broken system of justice.

00:05:22.080 We have a law and order system in this country that's absolutely in shambles.

00:05:27.800 And because our law and order system, and it has been this way and it's been getting worse

00:05:31.780 for years.

00:05:32.700 And because of that, you have people, Daniel Penny, who are forced into situations like

00:05:40.140 this because Jordan Neely never should have been on that train to begin with.

00:05:45.580 Just like how in the Kyle Rittenhouse situation, the marauders and the rioters never should have

00:05:52.880 been in Kenosha.

00:05:54.960 Now, what's the situation with Luigi Mangione?

00:05:57.380 Well, in that case, again, here you've got a case where without law and order, without

00:06:04.000 a functioning justice system, people start to get ideas.

00:06:08.820 People start to think, maybe I can be a hero too.

00:06:12.240 Maybe I can be the one who listens to everything that my professors told me and everything that

00:06:17.820 Hollywood tells me about how we should eat the rich and how we should take out these business

00:06:21.960 leaders.

00:06:22.580 And maybe I can go on social media and I can be a big star.

00:06:25.920 And he certainly has gone viral and he's gained more followers before they banned his accounts

00:06:30.640 because he took law and order into his own hands and his own twisted, psychedelic, warped

00:06:38.060 mind and thought that he could be a hero.

00:06:41.180 Well, an America with a functioning justice system would not have this problem. 0.85

00:06:46.480 And hopefully, as we move into the Trump administration, hopefully as we move into a country that has

00:06:52.880 a serious Justice Department, serious FBI leader, and so many others, that things like this

00:06:59.960 will stop simply happening again and again in the United States.

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00:08:59.440 Well, something interesting that's been going on, and probably in a good sense, is, you

00:09:05.640 know, I noticed the media hasn't really been focused on this quite as much lately.

00:09:10.180 But while there's so much going on in the breaking news category, the law and order section, actually,

00:09:17.520 what's what we've seen in Washington, D.C., that Trump's nominees are actually doing great.

00:09:23.840 Pete Hegseth is having a fire week up there.

00:09:26.860 He's going back and back to back and meeting with senators.

00:09:31.020 Now, Tulsi Gabbard is meeting with senators.

00:09:33.000 Kash Patel is meeting with senators.

00:09:35.260 Darren Beattie joins us now to discuss this latest up and the latest updates in President

00:09:41.540 Trump's nomination confirmation battle.

00:09:44.920 Darren, do you agree with my assessment?

00:09:46.580 Does it look like Pete and Tulsi and Kash are actually starting to get a warmer reception

00:09:51.240 than they were at first?

00:09:53.020 I think absolutely.

00:09:54.260 If you read the tea leaves, if you look at the broader situation, if you look at how

00:09:58.820 their meetings with senators have been publicly represented, everything is positive.

00:10:05.200 So I think they'll all probably get through.

00:10:08.360 I would be pretty confident at this point they'd all get through.

00:10:11.640 I don't think the Senate is interested in making a huge fuss over it.

00:10:16.840 So really, I'm more optimistic about these three appointments than I've ever been before.

00:10:22.280 Well, I think it's fantastic.

00:10:26.280 I mean, Pete Hegseth, talk about a transformative leader at the Department of Defense.

00:10:30.440 I mean, I think everybody knows what needs to be done to clear out the wokeness there, 1.00

00:10:33.700 to make an effective fighting organization yet again.

00:10:37.180 But one that had flown under the radar for some time, but is now starting to get more scrutiny

00:10:42.420 is Tulsi Gabbard.

00:10:43.960 And this is someone who, let's face it, she is not a, well, okay, you know, she, I guess

00:10:49.200 she is a Republican, but her background, her roots, her resume are all Democrat.

00:10:53.280 This is someone who was the former vice chair of the entire Democrat party now being appointed

00:10:58.580 to the Trump administration.

00:10:59.920 And someone who also, by the way, the intelligence community has spread just ludicrous lies about,

00:11:08.360 smear is about, they call her an Assad supporter, when all she said, if I remember correctly,

00:11:13.620 and has now been vindicated, that if Assad goes, that jihadis will take over.

00:11:18.980 And oh, look, that's exactly what happened.

00:11:22.640 So what are some of the things, Darren, you see that Tulsi could potentially be able to do

00:11:27.560 over there at DNI?

00:11:28.860 Well, I suppose in this case, it was more that the jihadis ousted Assad.

00:11:35.500 So that was definitely true.

00:11:38.780 She was one of the early sort of heterodox, but perhaps more accurate than not voices when

00:11:46.220 it came to Syria and a lot of other critical issues, which is, of course, you know, whenever

00:11:51.040 there's a pretextual scandal about somebody, the reality is always how much are they going

00:11:57.040 to actually challenge the system?

00:11:59.140 That's the determinative factor.

00:12:01.600 And based on Tulsi's knowledge about certain things, including perhaps especially foreign

00:12:07.400 policy and her willingness to speak out on these things, that's really why the intelligence

00:12:13.720 community, the same community that told us Hunter Biden laptop was Russian, the same community

00:12:19.540 that launched Russiagate, the same community that's been really conspiring against the American

00:12:24.760 people from day one to subvert the democratic process, and Trump in particular, this group

00:12:31.800 is maybe not entirely enthusiastic about Tulsi, which I think should be her proudest qualification

00:12:37.840 for this office.

00:12:39.780 And the DNI office actually is an interesting one in that, unlike the CIA, it doesn't control

00:12:49.400 an enormous budget, it doesn't control personnel, but in a formal sense, it does sit on top of

00:12:56.460 the intelligence hierarchy.

00:12:58.400 And it could be used most effectively in the context of declassification, for instance, which

00:13:05.360 could be a huge asset or at least tool of leverage wielded by the Trump administration to make sure

00:13:13.520 that the intelligence community is on board and on agenda.

00:13:17.680 So I think wielded effectively, which I fully suspect Tulsi will do, this can be an absolutely

00:13:24.640 critical position for which she is almost uniquely qualified.

00:13:30.740 Well, I think this is exactly right.

00:13:32.540 And it's a case where at the same time, she's met with a number of senators that I think

00:13:38.440 people would put more in, I guess, your GOP hawk territory, people who are more interested

00:13:45.640 in America's war footing, people who have celebrated the ouster of Assad, who have celebrated

00:13:51.640 the takeover of Syria with this HTS jihadist group that nobody really knows anything about.

00:13:58.080 And, you know, I'm sure even Erdogan and the CIA who funded them have no real idea of what's going

00:14:04.720 to happen when they take over the country.

00:14:06.400 Kind of like, oh, I don't know when the Taliban took over Afghanistan, you know, just a couple

00:14:11.280 of years ago, just another wonderful story in the regime change, regime changeopoly of the Middle East.

00:14:20.180 But when it really comes down to it, you're looking at people.

00:14:24.160 So here's what people don't understand exactly about the Doge and the way the Doge process

00:14:31.120 is working.

00:14:32.100 And so I don't know if I'm breaking news here or not, but the way the Doge process, I've

00:14:36.900 been told, is going to work is, yes, there will be the overall setup with Elon Musk and

00:14:43.460 Vivek Ramaswamy and a few others that are, and potentially, I think, a liaison who sits in

00:14:48.420 the White House on a daily basis, but also that each of the department heads, each of

00:14:55.100 the agency heads and the cabinet members will have their own Doge office within their departments.

00:15:02.060 So that means there's going to be a DNI Doge.

00:15:06.320 There's going to be a Pentagon Doge.

00:15:09.020 There's going to be a Doge office in basically all of these various agencies.

00:15:14.280 And so that's something where if you combine what Elon Musk and Vivek have said, and predominantly

00:15:21.700 what they've been talking about is bureaucracy, but when you add that quotient to the intelligence

00:15:27.860 communities and the fact that, oh, we have 18 intelligence agencies, they're so important,

00:15:32.800 we need all 18 of them, and suddenly you start thinking, do we really need all 18?

00:15:37.160 It just fills me with absolute glee, Darren.

00:15:39.600 It really does.

00:15:40.220 Indeed.

00:15:42.340 Well, I have a recommendation for the DNI Doge and for Tulsi Gabbard.

00:15:48.880 It's something to think about very seriously.

00:15:50.960 Now, as the audience may or may not know, the censorship industry domestically is in retreat.

00:15:58.860 And one of the latest examples of this is the expected discontinuation of the Global Engagement

00:16:05.240 Center, which was sort of the nerve center of censorship operations under the guise of

00:16:11.440 fighting disinformation at the State Department.

00:16:14.380 That's on the chopping block.

00:16:16.080 It's probably going to expire.

00:16:19.060 Now, what few people do know is that there was a similar equivalent agency in terms of hierarchy

00:16:25.620 recently set up under the auspices of the DNI.

00:16:30.240 So that would be in Tulsi's purview called the Foreign Malign Influence Center.

00:16:35.420 And to give you a sense of who runs this now, her name is Jessica Brandt.

00:16:39.860 We have a big piece coming out on her.

00:16:42.520 And basically, Brookings Institution alum, every single report that she's done basically has been

00:16:49.400 some permutation of Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, and Dan Bongino are amplifying Russian disinformation

00:16:58.780 narratives.

00:16:59.980 Pretty much 95 percent of her reporting has been some version of that topic, singling out

00:17:07.520 those three obviously very influential pro-Trump voices.

00:17:11.880 The funny thing about her career, and I think it really does recapitulate what a joke this

00:17:18.020 censorship industry is at large, is you go and you look at her history, everything she's 0.50

00:17:23.640 doing.

00:17:24.040 And by the way, this is a funny thing.

00:17:25.980 She doesn't brand herself as a disinformation expert because that term, I think, is already

00:17:31.040 out of favor.

00:17:32.040 She brands herself, like certain people that we know of, as an AI expert, which is hilarious

00:17:39.800 because all of her pieces are about attacking Tucker, Bongino, Charlie Kirk over amplifying

00:17:47.060 Russian disinformation, which is amazing. 0.94

00:17:50.740 But when you go back into her career, all of this stops around 2019, before which every

00:17:59.520 single thing she did was to criticize President Trump for the travel ban.

00:18:04.860 So she's an obsessive in terms of travel ban, obsessive in terms of massive migration, who 1.00

00:18:12.520 overnight seemingly becomes an AI expert, which means, in effect, censoring people like

00:18:20.580 Tucker Carlson under the guise of Russian disinformation.

00:18:24.260 That's the kind of person who runs the censorship office within the DNI, which Tulsi Gabbard is about

00:18:30.500 to take over.

00:18:31.200 So something for Doge to consider.

00:18:35.700 Well, I mean, this is fantastic.

00:18:36.800 Now, so I've talked to Mike Benz about some of this as well.

00:18:40.560 And so I want people to get in with their ideas.

00:18:43.500 Does it make sense, 1776 at humanevents.com, does it make sense to shut these things down?

00:18:49.560 Or in some cases, like CISA, should we go in and take them over?

00:18:54.180 We'll talk about this immediately after the break.

00:18:57.660 Darren Beattie, Jack Pasova, Human Events Daily continues.

00:19:01.200 I'm working long hours.

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00:19:12.380 All right, Jack Posobiec back live here.

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00:20:49.880 So, Darren, I got to tell you.

00:20:51.640 So right there in the break, I just pulled up Jessica Brandt.

00:20:55.500 I went to her.

00:20:56.400 The latest article that she had written on securing democracy,

00:21:00.060 a strategy for U.S. diplomacy in the age of disinformation,

00:21:03.940 and then which was like her, you know, her basic thing.

00:21:07.500 The very next one, how Kremlin narratives about Ukraine spread on U.S. political podcasts.

00:21:14.540 And I looked up the names Jack Posobiec and Darren Beattie.

00:21:17.280 And guess what?

00:21:17.800 We're all over this thing.

00:21:19.540 And the very first two things she talks about for,

00:21:22.360 and specifically cites Human Events Daily,

00:21:24.380 were, number one, the bio labs in Ukraine.

00:21:28.600 And she pointed out, by the way, that I played the clip of Victoria Nuland

00:21:33.620 talking about the biochemical research facilities that Ukraine has.

00:21:39.760 That's Victoria Nuland admitting it, by the way.

00:21:43.220 And the second one was, of course, the explosion of Nord Stream 2,

00:21:49.940 which is just, so it's a Kremlin narrative.

00:21:53.500 It's a Kremlin narrative that Nord Stream 2 would,

00:21:59.180 that anyone would have pushed this out.

00:22:04.600 It's amazing.

00:22:06.120 This is amazing.

00:22:07.220 So there's going to be a much, a very comprehensive report coming on revolver.news

00:22:14.560 about all of her reporting.

00:22:16.360 So just a little teaser there.

00:22:17.540 But absolutely, yes.

00:22:18.720 One of her reports was about Nord Stream 2.

00:22:21.220 And here's the amazing thing.

00:22:22.540 Just when you get into the details, it's almost kind of,

00:22:25.440 we've seen this movie before. 0.98

00:22:27.080 It's the same shtick, but it's so dumb that sometimes it's worth repeating. 0.99

00:22:30.700 Because she actually said, 0.97

00:22:32.300 the only other time I heard this was in a different context that I'm sure you're aware of.

00:22:36.520 I won't say what it is, but you're aware of someone actually saying that Russia blew up Nord Stream 2.

00:22:44.080 And Jessica Brandt's position was anything that did not affirm that hypothesis was ipso facto Russian disinformation.

00:22:55.840 So anyone who didn't maintain the exceedingly implausible to the point of absurd notion

00:23:01.360 that Russia blew up its own critical piece of infrastructure, 0.66

00:23:04.920 anyone who didn't maintain that utterly indefensible and ridiculous line,

00:23:08.920 which now, by the way, all of the mainstream media itself has abandoned up to and including the New York Times,

00:23:16.140 anyone who didn't maintain that was engaging in Russian disinformation,

00:23:19.920 disinformation going from Tucker Carlson to Bongino to Charlie Kirk.

00:23:24.980 Even the official narrative has gotten back to the point that,

00:23:30.340 okay, it probably, they'll say Ukraine or some Ukrainian operatives or some unit operating out of Poland.

00:23:37.860 By the way, I just have to read this quote because it's so perfect.

00:23:41.280 I guess this is me in 2023, I guess just right after it happened.

00:23:46.480 And relatedly, several podcasters said that official denials made them more likely to believe the alternative theories.

00:23:59.280 Quote, never believe anything until it's been officially denied, argued Posobiec on Human Events Daily.

00:24:06.040 Basically, based. Absolutely based. I completely agree with that guy.

00:24:11.520 And I think everyone should listen to that podcast every day.

00:24:14.960 Absolutely. A couple other things about her, because again, we've seen versions of her. 0.82

00:24:19.140 She's created in the same lab as the Brandy Zidrozny type. 1.00

00:24:22.620 She's probably not as like mean and cold as Zidrozny, but just as ridiculous. 1.00

00:24:27.840 But the thing that I thought was so amazing about her career, 0.96

00:24:31.100 other than branding herself as an AI expert, maybe she should go to MIT and stand in front of a blackboard

00:24:37.720 if she's going to call herself an AI expert, because that's what she brands herself as. 0.97

00:24:42.100 But if you date back her work, literally 95% of it is this dumb, like low IQ censorship Russia stuff. 0.87

00:24:50.520 And then come 2019, 2018, literally everything is about how Trump's evil because of this travel ban. 0.92

00:25:00.500 So it just goes to show you what a fake industry this actually is,

00:25:05.600 which brings up the very important question you raised before the break, which is

00:25:09.580 there are all of these institutions, the Global Engagement Center, the Foreign Line Influence Center.

00:25:15.500 There's a lot of them spread throughout the bureaucracies, nodding, you know, plus the NGOs and all this.

00:25:21.300 So what do we do with it?

00:25:22.620 Do we want to simply eliminate it as we're eliminating the GEC? 0.76

00:25:27.340 Or would it be a better approach to commandeer, to repurpose, to reimagine, to reshape this infrastructure to our own will

00:25:38.200 and toward a free speech agenda?

00:25:41.100 I happen to think that that is the correct approach.

00:25:44.300 I somewhat lament the expiration of the GEC, because while it is much better than what it has been in its previous pernicious form,

00:25:55.260 imagine if the GEC were commandeered by somebody who thinks along our lines, who repurposes it for a free speech orientation.

00:26:05.360 That could be very powerful, and I think it's something to take very seriously when viewing this kind of censorship architecture generally,

00:26:15.700 that this can and probably should be repurposed if somebody with the appropriate energy and insight and knowledge and capability

00:26:26.480 could be put at the helm of these respective institutions.

00:26:29.860 Well, I think that's exactly right, because you've got a situation now where you can actually take that and spin it back on itself.

00:26:37.620 Plus, by the way, and this is where Benz came in, because of the nature of these organizations, like CISA,

00:26:44.200 they operate in this public-private space.

00:26:48.000 So the first thing you've got to do, of course, is pull the funding from the public to the private,

00:26:54.560 so get rid of any of that, and we called it, we were talking about severing the umbilical cord between the federal government and academia.

00:27:04.200 By the way, something I support completely across the board, but also, we need to find out just how closely were these organizations

00:27:14.600 operating with elements of the federal government.

00:27:18.680 We need to also look at the receipts of, okay, so they were listening to our podcast and they made some quotes and some reports.

00:27:27.100 Fine, not that big of a deal.

00:27:29.280 But then the question is, did the federal government then go and take that report and send it to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

00:27:39.360 or any other, Google, YouTube, and others, and say, hey, these are Kremlin narratives, and we need to be de-ranking them.

00:27:48.300 Here is a private report that was written, and you can see where this all goes forward.

00:27:53.480 This is how the censorship industry actually works.

00:27:57.280 So we need to find out where the tentacles lead before we can actually get this done.

00:28:04.100 Now, that by the same token, though, Darren, I guess, as you say, if true information were able to actually be supported by this type of organization,

00:28:14.780 wouldn't it make sense then to say, I don't know, reward people who are actually speaking the truth?

00:28:21.480 I would go even further, and I would say that just in the same way as these organizations,

00:28:27.540 keep in mind that GEC was primarily, it really by its foundational purpose, given its position in the State Department,

00:28:37.220 supposed to be focused toward outward communications, not domestic.

00:28:41.300 And they're incubating civil society organizations across Europe and overseas to fulfill various foreign policy objectives.

00:28:51.060 So I think there could be a repurposing opportunity for these types of groups to actually incubate a civil society architecture that is pro-free speech.

00:29:05.620 Because, you know, for instance, some organization like GEC, there are some legitimate functions to,

00:29:12.540 we do need to have some position of messaging in relation to overseas, the overseas domain.

00:29:19.780 But what we don't have to do is, the groups that we're funding for legitimate national security or foreign policy functions,

00:29:26.860 we can make sure that their ancillary activity or their other activity is very much in line with America First and American values,

00:29:35.920 rather than subverting the First Amendment, as was the case before.

00:29:39.840 So there's a real opportunity to incubate an entire civil society architecture that is not in promotion of this disinformation censorship scam,

00:29:51.800 but quite the contrary, is in promotion of free speech objectives.

00:29:56.980 And so I think that's one of the several opportunities that could be seized upon if, again, the appropriate person who's energetic,

00:30:06.540 has the right vision, has the right knowledge, were to take over these institutions.

00:30:12.180 So I think that's the most preferable outcome.

00:30:15.700 Second most is just get rid of them.

00:30:17.580 The worst outcome is what we've had under Biden, which is these were very much hostile and actuated against the constitutional liberties of the American people.

00:30:27.760 Well, I certainly should.

00:30:29.340 We should be punishing those that go against those liberties and rewarding those who support them.

00:30:37.400 Darren, where can people go to get this post, to find out, tell us when it drops,

00:30:43.040 and then also to follow you and if there's anything else Revolver has cooking up as we go into the new year.

00:30:50.500 Revolver.news, we've got a big piece on Brandt and a big piece that's a cautionary tale on the Kids Online Safety Act,

00:30:57.700 which I think could be a censorship Trojan horse.

00:31:00.200 So something to look at very cautiously, very carefully.

00:31:03.580 So Revolver.news, we're on the cutting edge of all of this.

00:31:06.740 Revolver.news.

00:31:07.780 All right, Revolver.news, and make sure you're sending us your email, 1776humanevents.com.

00:31:14.140 We'll be right back.

00:31:14.940 Brian Dusky joins us next.

00:31:16.640 Huge piece on the MAGA Coalition.

00:31:18.820 Stay tuned.

00:31:19.080 Jack, where is Jack?

00:31:40.080 Where is Jack?

00:31:42.300 Where is he?

00:31:43.560 Jack, I want to see you.

00:31:45.080 Great job, Jack.

00:31:48.720 Thank you.

00:31:49.520 What a job you do.

00:31:50.920 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:31:52.320 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who'll be getting Pulisic.

00:31:59.740 All right, Jack, so we're back live here, Human Events Daily.

00:32:04.380 So massive victory from President Trump one month ago.

00:32:09.600 And so many people are focused on the transition.

00:32:13.600 I know we certainly are here that it's almost like we haven't stepped back and really started analyzing not just the overall arc of how President Trump won,

00:32:24.420 but the specific groups that were key to this victory, groups, by the way, that hadn't voted in some cases for a Republican in years or other cases ever.

00:32:35.640 And Ryan Gerdusky has written this incredible piece over at the American Conservative.

00:32:41.640 It's a long piece, but it's well worth your time because it does go through the full story of the election, really from about 2022, early 2023 to the election itself,

00:32:55.240 and walks through the ups and downs, but specifically gets into that coalition of supporters that President Trump was able to put together

00:33:03.980 and then offers at the end a sort of message to Republicans that goes with the title,

00:33:09.960 a governing majority if you can keep it, playing off the old Ben Franklin quote.

00:33:14.940 Ryan Gerdusky joins us now.

00:33:16.620 Ryan, do we have a governing majority?

00:33:19.100 We do.

00:33:21.240 I mean, for the very first time in two decades, Republicans actually have a governing majority.

00:33:26.460 It's something that we're not used to playing for, you know, a minority of the national votes.

00:33:32.140 Republicans had it in the House and they had it in the presidential election,

00:33:35.580 and they would have had it in the Senate if the states were a little different or if there was a national one where every state was competitive in.

00:33:42.440 But that being said, I looked back when writing this piece of the American Conservative magazine,

00:33:46.960 and thank you for reading it and talking about it, I looked back at the last two years,

00:33:52.600 because in the afterglow of such a big election victory, it's almost unfounding how much of a comeback this election was.

00:34:03.000 Two years ago, 20 months ago, actually 24 months ago now, Trump was in the worst place he was in since 2016.

00:34:11.200 I mean, things were not really going fantastic for him.

00:34:14.920 And he he had a Nixonian style comeback, one that you don't see in real life ever.

00:34:22.680 And Nixon is the only person within anyone's living memory that we've seen such a comeback.

00:34:27.020 And not only to defeat his Republican primary opponents, but then to defeat two Democrats, which is really what he did.

00:34:34.100 I looked back and saw one by one how he reassembled both his party base, which was very fragile back in 2023,

00:34:42.020 and then a national majority to give him the presidency, win every swing state and put some blue states within within, you know, an inch of flipping and had Joe Biden still been the nominee.

00:34:53.600 I believe they all would have flipped.

00:34:58.000 And this really is the big piece of it, because one of the flips that I saw, and I've been talking about it for a while,

00:35:05.500 but I haven't really dug into it as much was and it's, you know, it's kind of our generation, man.

00:35:10.300 It's the it's the millennials. 0.67

00:35:12.180 And so you have so many millennials that are now entering a different phase of their life.

00:35:16.680 And it's it's sort of the Churchillian kind of, you know, quotation about you get more conservative as you get older,

00:35:23.000 that people have really stepped away from the Barack Obama moment.

00:35:29.420 And people like it's so hard.

00:35:32.520 It's so hard to explain to you if you don't remember 2008 and how much of a movement Barack Obama was.

00:35:41.140 And I would hear millennials talk about him like he was the second coming of Jesus.

00:35:46.860 And this whole thing was media instituted.

00:35:50.460 And something incredible has happened that 2024 really was the end of a certain era of politics.

00:35:59.120 And certainly, I think the end of the Obama era, the end of the neoliberal era, and really just kind of the end of him really having a major influence in our national conversation.

00:36:11.120 And you you kind of see that reflected in the way that so many millennials, which were his coalition,

00:36:17.620 have now moved over to Trump and Vance and others who are actually going to do something about this.

00:36:25.000 And oh, by the way, you can you can even kind of see that reflected in Trump's Trump's nominees,

00:36:30.980 because Hegseth and J.D. Vance himself and Tulsi, not only are they veterans, they're the GWAT, you know,

00:36:37.300 global war and terror veterans who believed so much of the stuff that was going around back then and then have moved off.

00:36:43.160 But but not to get into the nominees, but Gerdusky, talk to me about millennials moving away from Obama.

00:36:48.920 Right. I think that if you look back, I mean, remember what years we came into adulthood and came into our formative years,

00:36:57.200 which was the Bush years and the second term of Bush.

00:37:00.240 I mean, the first term he was very well respected because of 9-11.

00:37:03.400 But the second term of Bush, it was really a horrific presidency.

00:37:08.320 The second term of Bush, I mean, it was awful.

00:37:10.620 There was very little positives you could say about it from the gutting and manufacturing to the endless war on terror that was drilled,

00:37:17.500 you know, that put thousands of people either in body bags or came back with horrible PTSD and the inflation and the the stock market crash.

00:37:27.460 All of those things culminated at the end of the Bush presidency.

00:37:30.600 So to still want to be a Republican post George W. Bush was like announcing that you were a leper. 0.56

00:37:37.120 It was very, very, very strange if you were a millennial.

00:37:39.740 There was a genuine groundswell of support for Barack Obama that that did feel like a movement, a youth movement.

00:37:46.220 And it was electorally.

00:37:48.500 It's taken 20 years or nearly 20 years to really come out of that.

00:37:53.620 You know, cultural fights like gay marriage was put a lot of millennials into the Democratic quarter.

00:37:58.460 They're not. It's not an issue anymore.

00:38:00.900 Abortion wasn't an issue for millennials the way that many people thought that it would be.

00:38:05.380 It's not like many 35 year olds are, you know, a lot of them are a married or be never planning to marry or have full control of their body autonomy.

00:38:15.360 So it's not all the cultural flashpoints that the left has been using and banking on for nearly 20 years really have gone by the wayside.

00:38:24.000 The economic standpoint for millennials who are looking for their first home or their second home or whatever the case are trying to afford maybe private school for their children.

00:38:33.180 It's become economically unavailable to them, things that were in within reach a couple of years ago.

00:38:41.640 And I spoke to someone who I remember they were they voted Republican for the very first time ever for the governor of the Connecticut governor's race.

00:38:49.960 And that was in 2022. And they're like, I feel weird about it, but this is not working.

00:38:54.760 And there was these slow moving things throughout the years where I think by 2024 they were like, this is this what I have believed in, what I have done is clearly not working.

00:39:05.480 And the issues of like Ukraine or democracy or whatnot or abortion, they care about them to a certain extent, but not more than their pocketbook, not more than than the price of groceries, not more than their personal safety, not more than their ability to buy a home.

00:39:19.760 And Donald Trump did something very, very specific in this election cycle since the Bush administration to be a Republican meant you had to really whisper about it in most corners of the country.

00:39:34.160 Donald Trump made himself and thus Republicans as a whole, a bigger, I want to say, for lack of a term, more socially appropriate thing.

00:39:44.940 You know, Trump's Trump going to UFC fights was an event within itself who would stop by and say hello to him with Trump going on a million podcasts was super, super important for people who consume that, not just like 18 year old, 20 year olds, most 30 year olds is how they get their news from.

00:40:00.620 And people who are intellectually curious, you want to hear, I wrote this in the American conservative piece, you want to hear, you know, Trump talk about Jeffrey Epstein, there's a podcast episode, or how about aliens, it's a podcast episode, inflation, there's a podcast episode, immigration, whatever the case is.

00:40:15.220 He became more relatable through these events, while Kamala Harris, through her celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swift and Oprah Winfrey and Beyonce became less, less relatable.

00:40:30.800 You know, the average person cannot relate to Oprah Winfrey or Taylor Swift or Beyonce, but Andrew Schultz is much more relatable or Joe Rogan is relatable to a lot of people, despite being super wealthy, because that's how they've made their their money.

00:40:43.100 That's how they made their fortune is by being a relatable personality who doesn't come across as untouchable because they're so famous.

00:40:50.340 And Donald Trump, as a man who's been wealthy his whole life and famous, most of his life, most longer than most people alive, the average American's life has been more famous than became an approachable person.

00:41:03.140 The ability in the last 22 months to change a public image by somebody who is universally known is almost unheard of.

00:41:13.280 And I think that that came through his the way he approached media and also I think by his indictments, he went from being a quote unquote bully to a martyr for a lot of people and all that I think really worked, especially within the 30 to 45 age range.

00:41:30.160 No, I think that's exactly right. And I love the piece there that you put together.

00:41:34.220 We have a quick break here, but this is huge. In the next segment, though, I want to talk about your contention that this is a coalition.

00:41:43.280 That potentially has legs for future and more and more elections going forward.

00:41:48.280 Stay tuned. Ryan Grodowski, the MAGA governing majority. Stay tuned.

00:42:00.580 Jack is a great guy. He's written that fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.

00:42:06.100 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:42:09.600 And we're going to turn it around and make sure it's actually quite a good day. Amen.

00:42:13.640 Okay. Jack Postobiec back. Human events daily. Here we are. We're on with Ryan Grodowski.

00:42:22.660 So, Grodowski, walk me through this. Look, President Trump, he can't run again.

00:42:28.040 We have a constitution that says so and no real chance of, you know, I don't think any real discussion of that being changed anytime soon.

00:42:36.560 So, what's MAGA to do with this governing majority that's been put together here?

00:42:43.900 Right. And as I wrote in, it's in the American conservative magazine, amconmag.com.

00:42:48.380 It's called The Governing Majority, if you can keep it, is the article.

00:42:51.340 I really hope everyone reads it.

00:42:53.180 So, what I write about is specifically coalitions of new people and the same that Nixon brought evangelicals and white southerners and neoconservatives and ethnic whites into the party in 1968 to build his first governing majority, which won five of the next six presidential elections.

00:43:09.800 Trump has brought a lot of minorities, inner city minorities, especially Asians and Latinos, suburban and ex-urban minorities, which are a specifically large amount in some cities, suburbs.

00:43:25.600 We think suburbs are all white. They're very, very diverse now.

00:43:28.280 And young men, especially. How you continue this is very, very important going into the future, because when someone casts a vote for a Republican presidential candidate for the very first time, they have not signed up yet to be a Republican.

00:43:45.580 And it is very common, as it was with Nixon and with Reagan and George H.W. Bush and even George W. Bush, a lot of people with long traditional history of voting Democrat would vote Republican at the top of the ballot and Democrat down.

00:43:59.980 That's why the South remains solidly Democrat all throughout the Nixon and Reagan area, even though they were voting for Reagan.

00:44:06.040 There were still Southern Democrats, Southern white Democrats going to George W. Bush.

00:44:10.720 States like West Virginia didn't flip till like 2012, 2014.

00:44:13.920 So these things take a long time in some cases.

00:44:17.840 I think with right now with the left being so insane and we're seeing this a lot right now with the with a penny case over in New York where they're defending criminality, homelessness, all the worst elements of urban plight and saying, no, this is normative.

00:44:34.700 And this should this this this is the real problem was a white guy protecting people, not a black person who had mental health issues, criminality and homelessness, or they call it the unhoused now.

00:44:46.040 Their need to root for societal breakdown, I think, really pushes a lot of people to question long held political alliances.

00:44:58.680 If Republicans really double down on this effort to make life healthier, more affordable, more secure, protect our borders and really reach into MAGA issues that were a step further away from, let's say, the Reagan issues.

00:45:17.080 1980 is not bashing Ronald Reagan. It's just a completely different time. It's been half a century for older viewers who get, you know, very, very, you know, angry when you say anything negative Reagan.

00:45:26.780 If you lean into these new issues, I think you will create a pattern where you'll see the suburbs of New York City, which includes New Jersey and parts of Connecticut, moving, moving further Republican, New Jersey becoming a Republican state, young people rather than breaking 70, 30 or 75, 25, breaking 55, 45 and then eventually become a majority Republican.

00:45:51.800 All of these things, young black men, young black men, young white men, which were moving more Democratic up till this last election, young white men were also being beaten down by it, really sitting there and saying that the left's support for anarchy and rooting against civilization is antithetical to American values.

00:46:13.260 By the way, I would even throw, I would throw New Hampshire in that bucket as well. I think New Hampshire is right for those demographics. Oh, yeah.

00:46:21.020 Yeah. Yeah. I know a lot of people haven't mentioned it, but that's I think New Hampshire is right there.

00:46:26.800 Yeah. I mean, listen, New Hampshire was considered. Why even bother going there when JD went to campaign there? It was a two point state. Minnesota was a two point state. This is not that far away from getting there.

00:46:37.760 Maine was only, I think, seven points and New Mexico was five. This is this is very, very, very winnable. This is very easily to get. And I think that we can get there.

00:46:49.740 It doesn't have to be a situation where we are always dependent upon, you know, three Midwestern states as much as you love Pennsylvania, but that we're always dependent upon them.

00:46:59.900 I think we can grow the map and I think we can grow the map based upon this new coalition.

00:47:04.520 Trump got within six of New Jersey. There's no reason why we can't win the governorship and make it a one point, two point state.

00:47:11.840 Remember, Jersey was Republican from 1968 to 1988. Every election is going to say New Jersey is a former Republican state anyway.

00:47:18.640 So it already generally has the demographics that you would expect. Now, immigration has obviously played a huge role in that.

00:47:24.980 But there are ways through this path to be able to get back to it.

00:47:27.640 And in right, you know, in addition to that, you know, you you're looking at so many of these states going forward that it it it just makes sense.

00:47:36.860 It just makes so much sense to try to expand the map. And I'll throw out that, you know, if we get the census figured out, then we'll already be able to to.

00:47:44.440 I mean, you get the census figured out that you're you are probably going to win more electoral votes just in terms of internal migration in the country than like the state of Wisconsin is worth in terms.

00:47:57.460 Well, do you want to hear the craziest thing since 2020 is the last presidential election cycle based on current trends where we will need a single Midwestern state?

00:48:07.060 Republicans could win winning every single state that Trump won outside of Michigan, Wisconsin.

00:48:12.580 And Ryan, before we before we sign off, I hear there's a special announcement that you wanted to make regarding place where people can go to find all these fantastic insights that you have.

00:48:23.960 Yes. Thank you so much, Jack. I am launching a new podcast on the Buck and Clay Network for iHeartRadio.

00:48:29.720 It's called It's a Numbers Game with Ryan Gerdusky, where I will be breaking down statistics and data.

00:48:35.100 Very, very important once a week and describing why you should learn about it and what you should know about it.

00:48:39.960 So thank you for giving me that shout out.

00:48:42.580 Well, that's absolutely incredible. Congratulations, by the way, hugely earned, fantastic book that you wrote a while back on populism.

00:48:51.880 Now a huge podcast coming forward. And of course, we all love Ryan Gerdusky's his run on CNN, his epic run where he flew straight into the sun, straight into the face of the sun.

00:49:05.680 And just just like, I'm going for broke. I know they're going to fire me anyway. So we'll have to your first episode should be all the all the greatest hits.

00:49:17.260 Thanks. Right. Guys, go give Ryan a follow. Go follow his new podcast. Make sure you check that out when it comes and go watch the C&E clips because they're just some of the greatest things you'll ever see.

00:49:26.600 Scott Jennings does all right. But Ryan went absolutely into the paint. Folks, ladies and gentlemen, it's been a great week.

00:49:33.380 And as always, you have my permission to lay it short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 10, 2024

PENNY & MANGIONE ARE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN LAW AND ORDER BREAK DOWN AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM STOPS WORKING

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