Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - President Trump Makes Surprise Call with Putin After Ukrainian Strikes Threaten Peace Talks

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00:00:50.680 Traffic has resumed across Crimea's Kirch Bridge after Ukraine hit its foundations with underwater

00:00:55.920 explosives.

00:00:56.540 The explosion marked the latest offensives from Ukraine.

00:01:00.680 Over the weekend, a Ukraine drone attack damaged dozens of warplanes deep inside Russia.

00:01:06.060 Meanwhile, Russian strikes on Ukraine's civilian areas continue, killing at least eight and injuring

00:01:11.440 50.

00:01:12.040 Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has now criticized and appears to have flat out

00:01:18.320 rejected a proposal by the U.S. amid negotiations over Tehran's rapidly advancing nuclear program,

00:01:25.840 saying Iran refuses to give up enriching uranium in any possible deal, which is essentially the

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00:01:35.200 The White House sent a request yesterday to congressional leaders to pull back more than

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00:02:24.560 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition, Human Events Daily here live, Washington,

00:02:32.160 D.C. Today is June 4th, 2025, Anno Domini.

00:02:36.500 It is the 36th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre where proud Chinese citizens stood

00:02:45.540 up for their country against communism and were mowed down by soldiers of the People's Liberation

00:02:52.460 Army, soldiers of the Chinese Communist Party, their own government, opened fire on peaceful

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00:03:05.200 all the victims of communism, the most evil force that has ever existed on this planet.

00:03:13.080 Folks, another evil force, of course, is the specter of war, and President Trump has a huge

00:03:19.840 truth social up where he just apparently got off the phone with President Putin of Russia,

00:03:26.820 Russia, and I want to read this to you now because this is breaking news just as we go

00:03:32.280 to air here.

00:03:33.820 He said,

00:03:34.280 I just finished speaking by telephone with President Vladimir Putin of Russia.

00:03:37.460 The call lasted approximately one hour, 15 minutes.

00:03:40.360 We discussed the attack on Russia's docked airplanes by Ukraine and also various other attacks

00:03:45.720 that have been taking place by both sides.

00:03:47.440 It was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate peace.

00:03:51.880 President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to the recent

00:03:57.180 attack on the airfields, so respond in Ukraine.

00:04:01.340 We also discussed Iran and the fact that time is running out on Iran's decision pertaining

00:04:04.980 to nuclear weapons, which must be made quickly.

00:04:07.980 I stated to President Trump that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, and on this I believe 1.00

00:04:11.280 we were in agreement.

00:04:12.420 President Putin suggested that he will participate in the discussions with Iran and that he could

00:04:17.340 perhaps be helpful in getting this brought to a rapid conclusion.

00:04:20.020 It is my opinion that Iran has been slow-walking their decision on this important matter, and

00:04:24.380 we will need a definitive answer in a very short period of time.

00:04:28.480 Folks, I've also been hearing regarding these attacks and this Operation Spiderweb that, as

00:04:35.780 it turns out, elements of our national security infrastructure, elements of the CIA, elements

00:04:41.700 of the intel community knew that this attack was taking place, that this operation was going

00:04:47.100 on, and they purposely withheld information from the President of the United States, from

00:04:52.400 his briefing, from many other high-level echelons of the White House.

00:04:58.240 Why are Brennan and Clapper people still walking around with blue badges?

00:05:03.340 Why is anyone who was involved with the prior Biden or Obama administrations walking around

00:05:08.980 in positions of power within the Trump administration?

00:05:12.860 Their goals and their agenda are separate from the agenda of the people's president that

00:05:18.500 the people voted for in 2024.

00:05:21.220 We'll be right back.

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00:05:33.380 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec here.

00:05:37.280 We are live, Washington, D.C.

00:05:40.060 I want to bring in Real America's Voice, as well as the Salem Radio Network, Hour 3, Charlie

00:05:46.380 Kirk, President Trump, tweeting out about the Russian response to Ukraine's drone attacks,

00:05:53.400 and also this idea, and the news, breaking his own news, that he just held an hour and 15-minute

00:05:59.400 long phone call with Putin from the White House.

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00:07:18.680 All right, guys, we are very excited because we have a really interesting update here today

00:07:26.060 because we've been talking about AI.

00:07:27.540 We talk about this a lot.

00:07:28.900 And I wanted to do this episode really all about structured about AI.

00:07:32.840 Yes, we have the news of the day.

00:07:34.100 But I'm excited that we have Larry Ward on, who's an expert on AI.

00:07:40.460 And one of the things that he's been digging into, and he's got a piece up at humanevents.com

00:07:45.400 all about AI bias.

00:07:48.440 Larry joins us now.

00:07:49.760 Larry, how are you?

00:07:51.460 Great.

00:07:51.900 Thanks for having me.

00:07:58.040 Well, Larry, tell us a little bit about this piece.

00:08:01.460 What made you want to put it together?

00:08:02.820 And what did you find?

00:08:05.340 I've been in the digital space in conservative politics for over 20 years.

00:08:12.640 We were the first to call out Google in 2004 for bias in its ad algorithm.

00:08:19.300 We were the first shadow banned account on Facebook when I put up a meme that said,

00:08:23.760 when Obama calls the SEALs, they got Bin Laden.

00:08:26.780 When the SEALs called Obama, they got denied.

00:08:30.120 It's long documented.

00:08:31.560 The bias in the Silicon Valley tendency to censor, to demonetize, to choke conservative content

00:08:43.380 has been well documented.

00:08:45.140 It was covert at one point.

00:08:47.840 But over the last couple of years, they were really overt about it.

00:08:52.020 And now they're going back in the closet and being more covert about their bias.

00:08:56.280 Anybody that's used AI and asked political questions automatically gets the liberal bias

00:09:02.720 answer first.

00:09:03.760 And it's like getting the first page of Google, because people make up their mind on the first

00:09:09.100 page of Google.

00:09:09.780 You're going to make up your mind on the first answer from the prompt on the political question

00:09:15.340 that you're asking.

00:09:16.660 And over and over and over again, AI has shown that it has very strong liberal bias.

00:09:22.980 Well, and this really goes back to one of those things that, like, I'm not a computer programmer,

00:09:31.120 but, you know, I do understand some of the basics of this and garbage in, garbage out.

00:09:36.660 This has always been one of the issues in computing.

00:09:39.580 It's always been one of the issues in algorithms or systemic modeling.

00:09:43.200 And that's the same issue that a lot of the AI has now, not just the bias in terms of being

00:09:49.720 fed these, these far left sources like Wikipedia or the New York times, or so many of liberal

00:09:55.880 corporate media that's out there.

00:09:57.120 But also one of the issues that's come up is that AI is degrading as the models are continuing

00:10:02.780 to be trained on these on the internet, because there's so much AI generated content that's

00:10:08.840 now appearing on the internet.

00:10:10.280 So you have AI that's being trained on AI, which degrades the overall value of the model

00:10:15.700 itself.

00:10:16.160 You're 100% right, and it's going to continue to get worse.

00:10:20.460 And look, AI is now, these AI companies, these major LLMs are making deals.

00:10:25.040 You saw there was a huge deal with Amazon that was put out there to the New York Times, where

00:10:32.400 they're paying the New York Times an undisclosed amount of money, probably hundreds of millions

00:10:36.280 of dollars to train its model on the New York Times.

00:10:39.040 And you're seeing that these companies are going out either to mainstream or to very liberal

00:10:43.300 publications and paying them a lot of money so that they can train their model on their

00:10:49.240 content.

00:10:49.560 And what they're not doing is they're not seeking out conservative publications and conservative

00:10:53.740 voices like Human Events or the Postmillennial or the Washington Examiner, et cetera, and so

00:10:58.900 on.

00:10:59.040 We have to get these AI companies for two reasons.

00:11:03.120 One, the Silicon Valley has destroyed the financial wherewithal of a lot of these companies

00:11:12.060 on the right because they've demonetized them, they've throttled them, they've choked them,

00:11:17.060 and they've put them in deep financial stress.

00:11:19.640 And two, these AI models need to be trusted.

00:11:23.860 And look, I've said this for a very long time.

00:11:27.440 The trust is the number one asset.

00:11:30.660 It's the number one investment that AI companies need to make in order to yield a high investment.

00:11:36.900 And right now, who's going to trust an AI company like OpenAI or Google that puts George Washington

00:11:44.720 as a black president or, you know, you type in OpenAI, who's the president?

00:11:49.060 And they say Joe Biden is still the president.

00:11:52.600 I mean, there's lots and lots of evidence overall that they are just off the rails in terms of their liberal bias.

00:12:01.980 Well, and so what you're explaining, though, is actually potentially a way for AI to correct this issue

00:12:09.300 or potentially help with this and perhaps President Trump's AI policy.

00:12:14.520 We know that this is coming out of the White House now.

00:12:16.700 That's something where numerous individuals in the administration, I would say Elon,

00:12:21.280 but, you know, he's sort of stepped away, but he obviously plays a huge role in Grok and XAI,

00:12:25.680 even going to the point where I believe that X itself has now been signed over to XAI

00:12:32.160 so that all of the content that I post on X, that everyone posts on X, it's already being fed into the XAI algorithm

00:12:42.580 so that it's training Grok as you go.

00:12:45.760 And so there's no issues there.

00:12:47.120 So one of the – now, obviously, there's conservatives and liberals on it,

00:12:51.380 but what you're saying is that they could go in and actually work with, you know, feed it,

00:12:56.520 feed it human events, feed it the war room, feed it Tucker Carlson, 0.82

00:13:00.400 and then you would get – you know, at least achieve a balance or an understanding

00:13:05.200 that there are various perspectives on these issues.

00:13:08.620 You're absolutely right.

00:13:09.860 There has to be an equal weight.

00:13:11.380 You know, the way these systems work is they weight these publications.

00:13:15.040 They weight these sources.

00:13:16.300 There has to be an equal weight on the conservative side as there is on the liberal side.

00:13:22.280 And these companies not only have to, you know, use their content,

00:13:27.400 content, but they also have to pay for the content.

00:13:30.000 And it has to be at the same market rate that they're making deals with The New York Times,

00:13:34.100 that they're making deals with The Washington Post and CNN.

00:13:37.020 They have to use conservative publications and paid conservative publications at least the same amount,

00:13:43.660 if not more, because they've been using – they've been throttling and demonetizing

00:13:49.460 and hurting these conservative publications for a very long time.

00:13:52.880 Well, and we know, and this has been done all the way back to the days of Breitbart and sleeping giants,

00:13:58.880 that they used this as a model to block conservative news or just truthful news,

00:14:04.520 anything that's out there telling the truth, whether it be Russia, whether it be Hunter Biden,

00:14:08.920 whether it be Joe Biden's mental status, or whether it be COVID and everything that's happening

00:14:14.360 and these Chinese pathogens. 0.58

00:14:16.000 And apparently we just caught another Chinese pathogen up in Michigan.

00:14:19.460 Larry Ward is on with us now.

00:14:23.380 He's the head of Market Rhythm.

00:14:24.340 He's got a great column up on humanevents.com.

00:14:27.380 I'm Jack Posobiec.

00:14:28.680 You're listening to the Salem Radio Network.

00:14:30.800 I'm watching on Real America's Voice.

00:14:32.700 We're going to take a quick break.

00:14:34.180 We're going to be right back because this is so important, ending the bias in AI.

00:14:38.900 And it's got to start now, folks, because understand,

00:14:41.220 this right now is the worst AI we'll ever be.

00:14:44.260 This is Model 1.

00:14:45.320 You know, they talk about influencers.

00:14:51.320 These are influencers.

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00:14:55.560 Jack Posobiec.

00:14:57.040 Where's Jack?

00:14:58.020 Jack.

00:14:59.020 He's done a great job.

00:15:00.500 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily,

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00:16:28.820 All right, we're back on with the president of Market Rhythm, Larry Ward.

00:16:33.420 And he's walking through his new column that's up on humanevents.com.

00:16:37.240 And he's arguing that conservative publications need to be included in these AI models to fix the liberal bias problem.

00:16:47.420 And, Larry, I'll throw it back to you because you're not talking about making AI conservative.

00:16:52.680 You're about making it viewpoint neutral so that true information is able to actually get through the screen.

00:16:59.500 Oh, absolutely.

00:17:01.420 Look, if we went to 2020 when COVID was around and these AI models were just trained on the liberal bias, what would we have?

00:17:10.680 We would have, you know, the AI telling everybody they got to wear masks and go out and get vaccines and stay indoors, of course, until there's a Black Lives Matter protest and then go out and participate. 0.54

00:17:21.480 That's what it would have been telling the American people and how many more people would have been fooled into some of the nonsense that went on during COVID.

00:17:29.660 So, you know, we have to look at this.

00:17:31.320 It's a national security risk.

00:17:33.140 These biased AI systems, they pose a national threat because they create blind spots in everything from policy analysis to threat assessment.

00:17:41.000 So we have to have a neutral view.

00:17:44.300 We have to have both conservative and liberal perspectives.

00:17:47.520 And quite frankly, the like I like I keep going back to the the these AI companies should put their money where their mouth is and and contribute and contract with these publications, these conservative publications and pay the market rate as soon as humanly possible.

00:18:05.240 You know, one of the pieces that, you know, that that you you've spoken about in in here is also the idea of a mandate and the idea potentially of a mandate or some form of regulation coming out from the federal government saying this needs to be in there.

00:18:25.500 And if it's not in there, we're going to have problems.

00:18:28.220 Do you think that's something the Trump administration could do?

00:18:32.020 Absolutely.

00:18:32.500 Look, I am a laissez-faire, you know, conservative capitalist.

00:18:37.500 I've been I've been that way my whole life.

00:18:39.000 So for me to come out and say that this this needs to happen, that government needs to be involved in government, must make sure that that the AI systems are balanced with conservative and liberal media is is very, very important.

00:18:53.680 It's important for a lot of different reasons.

00:18:55.540 So mandatory inclusion and having the administration either issue an executive order, push Congress or or even just just push these companies, pressure these companies into doing business with conservatives and signing long term contracts is essential.

00:19:12.500 We have to have AI without bias.

00:19:15.740 Well, it's as simple as that.

00:19:18.820 And you talk to anybody in Silicon Valley right now and they'll tell you that Google is done.

00:19:23.060 Google search.

00:19:24.100 Everybody.

00:19:24.540 It's like the butt of a joke that, oh, you guys still use Google, blah, blah, blah.

00:19:28.320 What are you using Google for?

00:19:29.480 It's all about AI clients.

00:19:31.400 Everybody uses AI on their phones out there right now.

00:19:33.620 Now, anyone in California, right, you're talking to them and even I've noticed it just anecdotally.

00:19:38.500 People, my wife, she'll she'll use AI to she's searching this, she's searching that she, you know, if she's she's writing something, English isn't her first language.

00:19:47.740 So if she wants to double check something, she'll use AI constantly.

00:19:51.800 Not that she used to do it a lot, but, you know, just double check. 0.76

00:19:54.360 Make sure that make sure that it's written up right.

00:19:57.100 You need to know that the information you're getting is unbiased and is accurate.

00:20:02.540 Larry, where can people go to follow you and get more access to this article?

00:20:08.980 Well, you can go to constitutionalrightspact.com.

00:20:11.980 That's that's our political action committee or in service of humanity.

00:20:15.200 And that is a 5-1-C-3 newly formed to create AI that is totally in service of humanity as opposed to having humanity in service of AI. 0.99

00:20:27.620 AI in service of humanity.

00:20:30.440 I like that.

00:20:31.320 It's got a populist feel to it, Larry.

00:20:33.180 This is great.

00:20:33.760 Please come back on anytime you like.

00:20:36.260 These issues are so important.

00:20:38.160 And guess what, folks?

00:20:39.160 They're not science future.

00:20:40.920 They're science now.

00:20:42.720 Jack Posobiec will be right back.

00:20:43.860 We're talking AI today.

00:20:45.540 Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network.

00:20:46.740 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:20:55.680 Where's Jack?

00:20:57.800 Where is he?

00:20:59.060 Jack, I want to see you.

00:21:02.700 Great job, Jack.

00:21:04.080 Thank you.

00:21:04.840 What a job you do.

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00:21:15.640 All right, Jack Posobiec back.

00:21:17.160 Human Events Daily.

00:21:18.560 Last week, I recorded a debate with Libby Emmons regarding AI.

00:21:26.160 We weren't able to play it because of time constraints, but we have it, and we're going

00:21:32.300 to play it for you right now.

00:21:34.080 She and I have been having a longstanding debate about the use of AI, and I think it

00:21:39.680 was time for another round because you wrote another op-ed on it, and I was like, all right,

00:21:43.880 let's see what Libby's got to say about AI now.

00:21:46.620 So for folks who hadn't seen the earlier stages of this debate, I have said that AI is okay

00:21:53.580 to use, and I've clearly used it in marketing, and I've used it in some things, you know,

00:22:00.720 either for the show or, you know, videos that we've made.

00:22:04.260 We made the preceptions of various videos in the past, even years ago, and Libby is just

00:22:13.960 totally against AI.

00:22:15.380 She's like out of it.

00:22:16.340 She doesn't want to use it.

00:22:17.460 She's militantly Luddite on the question of AI.

00:22:21.040 So I've wanted to get into this op-ed.

00:22:22.800 Libby, how about it?

00:22:24.820 I wouldn't say I'm a Luddite.

00:22:26.200 I would say I'm a lover of humanity, and I love words, and I love stories.

00:22:30.820 So just pushing back right there.

00:22:32.980 But yeah, we've seen some recent developments in AI that have been pretty stunning, and I

00:22:37.820 would say back up my view, which is that AI is a tool, and it's not a tool that should

00:22:42.140 be used by someone who doesn't know how to use that tool.

00:22:45.300 We had a situation recently where a commissioned author wrote a summer reading list and used AI

00:22:51.880 to get recommendations for that recommended summer reading list, and the AI spit out a

00:22:57.080 bunch of fake books by real authors.

00:23:00.280 So that actually, he didn't check it.

00:23:02.700 The author didn't check it.

00:23:03.580 His editors didn't check it.

00:23:04.720 No fact checkers checked it.

00:23:06.220 And the whole thing ran in a big advertorial supplement in the Philadelphia Inquirer and

00:23:10.120 the Chicago Sun-Times.

00:23:11.180 So that was amazing.

00:23:13.260 A federal judge is seeking to hold a law firm in Alabama for sanctions after that law firm

00:23:19.920 filed a brief with fake citations of fake cases in order to defend themselves.

00:23:25.740 And that's not the first time that that has happened.

00:23:28.440 What we have going on here is what are being called AI hallucinations, otherwise known as

00:23:32.960 complete and total lies and fabrications, where AI is asked a question, and it just makes

00:23:38.840 stuff up, and then people are too lazy to check what the AI has spit back out at them and just

00:23:45.460 run with it, completely unaware and apparently unperturbed by the fact that they're just spreading

00:23:52.040 lies.

00:23:53.620 Well, so, and I agree with you that AI does, and I've always said that AI, you can't take

00:23:58.940 it at face value.

00:24:00.040 You always have to edit.

00:24:00.940 You have to have a human coming in and doing this.

00:24:03.120 But I suppose my issue, though, isn't necessarily that people are being lazy.

00:24:06.800 Of course, they're being lazy, but the other side is that if you only have a firm that's

00:24:14.340 using humans only and other people are using AI as a tool, not as the end all be all, but

00:24:20.780 as a tool, they are going to lap you and they are going to get ahead of you.

00:24:24.680 And that's always been my position.

00:24:26.580 And I want to play, and I apologize that on the radio side, you won't be able to hear

00:24:31.200 this, the podcast side, but there's this video that the Wall Street Journal put together,

00:24:34.840 this new movie that came out from just, it's completely AI generated.

00:24:41.680 It's completely AI created.

00:24:44.600 Every scene of it, there are no humans involved.

00:24:48.120 There are no actual, it's my life with my robot.

00:24:51.760 It's sort of a sitcom.

00:24:53.180 And I'm sorry, and Libby, you've seen this as well.

00:24:55.620 It looks almost perfect.

00:24:58.880 It looks almost perfect, like something you would see on TV at any time, yet there's no

00:25:03.940 actor.

00:25:04.520 It's kind of cute.

00:25:05.240 It's called My Robot and Me.

00:25:06.340 It's very funny.

00:25:08.120 And it's all AI generated.

00:25:10.740 And so I guess my question is, if you're putting out stuff like this, how are you going to compete

00:25:16.340 cost-wise if you have to pay actors and writers and producers and all the rest when the company

00:25:22.620 next to you is producing stuff that's 80%, 90% as good, but for a drastically reduced cost?

00:25:31.100 Yeah, I see what you're saying about the cost issue.

00:25:33.580 And I don't think that humanity, I don't think that artists need actually to spend a whole

00:25:39.260 lot of money to make good art.

00:25:41.040 I don't think that's necessarily what has to happen.

00:25:43.200 Also, I would posit that A Small Wonder, I don't know if you remember that show, was at

00:25:48.040 least just as good as this robot show that's come out now that's all manufactured this way.

00:25:56.120 But the thing, too, that I think it's really important to recognize is that the AI models

00:26:00.840 that are being trained are being trained on existing content.

00:26:05.720 And so far, that existing content is human-generated.

00:26:09.200 It's, you know, all of the stuff on the internet that has been written and created by human

00:26:14.880 beings, from filmmakers to writers to actors and producers and whoever else.

00:26:20.540 And that's what the AI is being trained on.

00:26:22.640 But we're increasingly going to get to a situation where AI is being trained on AI content.

00:26:28.680 And we're going to find ourselves in an endless regurgitation loop with absolutely no new ideas

00:26:34.640 being presented or consumed.

00:26:36.860 And human beings, perhaps, are going to be satisfied with something that appears to be

00:26:41.580 good enough, but it's not really going to be as worthwhile as what comes out of the human brain.

00:26:47.640 We like to say to ourselves that AI is thinking, but you can only truly believe that AI is

00:26:52.500 thinking if you don't think very highly of thinking itself, because AI is not actually

00:26:58.180 generating anything new.

00:26:59.940 It is simply amalgamating that which is already out there.

00:27:03.060 And it doesn't have the capability of distinguishing between good and bad, or right and

00:27:08.180 wrong, or true and false.

00:27:10.440 Well, Libby, and I'll throw this one to you here, because there was an article, I think 1.00

00:27:17.320 it was an op-ed, I guess, out of the Register earlier this week that says there are signs

00:27:22.740 of AI model collapse that are beginning to reveal themselves.

00:27:27.460 And I don't want to go through all of the iterations of it.

00:27:33.400 It's talking about how search engines are now being AI optimized, how AI is definitely better

00:27:38.620 for search than Google has ever been.

00:27:41.300 Google is no longer the best search engine.

00:27:43.980 However, one of the big issues that they have is that, so AI is currently being trained in

00:27:52.580 these large language models, is being trained on the open internet in many cases, and not

00:27:57.140 being trained on archives.

00:27:59.160 And the issue with that is that there's now so much AI-generated content on the internet

00:28:06.020 that it's being trained by content that is itself AI-generated.

00:28:10.180 So it gets to your point, this is speaking exactly to what you're saying, that the AI

00:28:13.920 is being trained on AI-generated content.

00:28:17.620 And so without the human-generated content, it is now, the models are degrading, and the

00:28:23.320 models are failing.

00:28:26.480 And this is because, by the way, just to step back for a second, this is because what we're

00:28:31.700 referring to in terms of ChatTBT and Grok and even XAI, it's not actually artificial intelligence.

00:28:37.080 What it is are large language models.

00:28:39.440 What does that do?

00:28:40.660 It takes in large bulks of information, words, sentences, phrases, newspaper articles, novels,

00:28:49.520 books, magazines, et cetera, movie scripts, plugs them all in together, and then creates

00:28:55.800 an algorithm, basically, of how humans speak by defining word maps, which word is close to

00:29:01.780 another word, and things like this.

00:29:03.640 And so it can understand that based on where humans have written.

00:29:08.500 Problem is, as you go into more and more AI-generated content, the human touch is lost, and therefore

00:29:16.960 the AI itself becomes degraded.

00:29:19.720 So this is already becoming an issue as people look at these models.

00:29:23.480 And I guess there was a paper in Nature in 2024 that was talking about this and said, and

00:29:30.300 quote, the model becomes poisoned with its own projection of reality.

00:29:36.980 And we're talking about error accumulation, et cetera, et cetera.

00:29:39.920 However, I'm still going to stick with my position here because this is an issue with this particular

00:29:46.360 version of AI.

00:29:47.920 AI, yeah, there's going to be, you know, some, a bunch of bugs and glitches and things

00:29:52.980 need to be worked out.

00:29:53.820 But I want to be clear about something, and this is just a fact.

00:29:56.880 This is the worst AI will ever be because this is version 1.0.

00:30:02.300 So the things that we're seeing now, the writing, the movies that are being generated,

00:30:06.020 it's only going to get better from here on.

00:30:10.380 Humanity is going to go through a new epoch.

00:30:14.860 People are currently preparing their entire lives for career fields that will not exist

00:30:21.360 in five years.

00:30:22.440 And I don't know if we as a society are even considering what the implications of this are

00:30:28.060 going to be.

00:30:29.100 Yeah, that's why education should not be about preparing for someone for a job, but should

00:30:33.620 be about preparing yourself to learn, to change, to grow, to understand, to research, to figure

00:30:40.060 things out on your own.

00:30:41.080 That's what education is about.

00:30:42.680 That's what it's supposed to be about.

00:30:43.940 It's not supposed to be about, you know, figuring out how to be the best cog in the machine.

00:30:48.420 That's not the point of it, and it shouldn't be the point of it.

00:30:51.140 And it wasn't the point of it going back to the Greeks, you know, who were some of the

00:30:54.320 best educators, which I think speaks to a certain extent to my point, which is that

00:30:59.560 the, you know, the ancient stuff is still better than all the AI stuff that's being spit

00:31:04.900 out right now.

00:31:06.020 And the AI content that's being spit out right now still requires a human time.

00:31:10.340 I've messed around with some of the AI, you know, movie generation things, and I'm certainly

00:31:15.860 not an expert, and I'm not great at figuring out what the right prompt is to get what it

00:31:20.660 is that I am hoping for.

00:31:22.560 So I tend to just go back to trying to draw it, frankly.

00:31:25.680 But I think that these are tools.

00:31:28.440 They are tools that need to be learned how to use them.

00:31:32.160 You don't just walk into a shop class and start messing around with the table saw without

00:31:36.360 losing a couple of fingers.

00:31:37.560 So that's a key part of this, right?

00:31:39.940 You can't just unleash a massive tool engine like this on the world and expect it all to

00:31:45.920 get worked out and expect people to just figure out how to use it.

00:31:49.880 It diminishes in many ways.

00:31:51.780 The way that we are using it now, it diminishes what human consciousness is because we equate

00:31:56.800 human consciousness to the AI, you know, tools to the AI LLM.

00:32:03.040 And that's not something that we should be doing.

00:32:05.040 And I think it's also very important to remember that AI is created in man's image and human

00:32:10.520 beings are created in God's image.

00:32:12.380 And we cannot turn and start worshiping and venerating this thing that we have created

00:32:18.040 without climbing that Tower of Babel and getting smoten down because that is also what we're

00:32:24.340 looking at.

00:32:25.220 And that's what some of these AI hallucinations remind me of.

00:32:28.080 Reminds me of the Golem and Frankenstein and Icarus flying too close to the sun.

00:32:33.140 When we look to our old stories, we end up seeing what we can face in the future and

00:32:38.200 we need to heed those lessons for sure.

00:32:40.660 And yeah, I am probably hopelessly 20th century and, you know, I'll stick to my books and my

00:32:46.100 card catalog for sure.

00:32:47.900 But I'm not opposed to trying new things.

00:32:50.420 I just think that we always need to be aware of what it is that we are giving up when we are

00:32:55.500 grabbing out to the new shiny thing.

00:32:57.280 You know, look, look, Michael Crichton has always been and continues to be my favorite

00:33:03.140 author.

00:33:04.000 And this is science run amok has always been and technology run amok has always been at

00:33:10.580 the heart of all of his writings as well as false allegations in the movie slash book

00:33:17.120 Disclosure.

00:33:18.040 Libby, we're just about out of time.

00:33:19.700 I love the great AI debate.

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00:35:07.100 Human Events, Daily Washington, D.C., Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network.

00:35:13.500 And I got some questions regarding the big, beautiful bill, or as I'd like to call it,

00:35:20.220 the big, beautiful deportation bill.

00:35:23.500 This should be called and rightfully should be called the big, beautiful deportation bill

00:35:29.680 because that's what it's all about, ladies and gentlemen.

00:35:32.420 This is about getting the tools, the resources, and the capabilities to those in power throughout

00:35:39.260 DHS and other elements of the federal government to be able to conduct the mass deportations

00:35:44.340 that won at the ballot box in 2024.

00:35:47.880 And so I understand, though, that there are some folks who say, well, wait a minute, wait

00:35:53.440 a minute.

00:35:53.740 What about the debt?

00:35:54.840 OK, what about entitlement programs?

00:35:57.240 When are we going to get some work done on that?

00:36:00.800 And let me let me walk you through this a little bit.

00:36:02.500 OK, it's it's a tweet that I posted earlier today because I said, I don't think you're thinking

00:36:08.400 of these mass deportations, a series of tweets that I was posting earlier today, thinking of

00:36:13.560 them in the proper way, and I want to get your mind right on this, because here's what's

00:36:19.460 going on.

00:36:20.560 What's going on is you are thinking that deporting people isn't related to our federal debt and

00:36:27.680 entitlement crisis because you're only looking at the supply side of the equation.

00:36:34.700 But if you reduce the demand side of the equation, you can reduce the overall expenditures.

00:36:42.620 Mass deportations means fiscal responsibility.

00:36:46.900 And few seem to understand this, because if you reduce the amount of people on the entitlement

00:36:52.800 programs, you will reduce the spending on the entitlement programs and further reduce

00:36:59.960 the debt.

00:37:00.740 And I can go through stats, I can go through all day long the reporting out of FAIR, the

00:37:07.320 reporting even back in 2017, even back in 2017, FAIR was putting out reports saying that illegal

00:37:15.220 aliens, illegal immigration cost Americans over cost on net $116 billion a year.

00:37:24.460 And remember, that's indirect and direct costs through entitlement and welfare programs.

00:37:29.940 What do I mean by that?

00:37:31.180 Well, the children of illegal aliens, guess what? 0.98

00:37:34.220 They're eligible for entitlement programs.

00:37:36.420 They're eligible for SNAP.

00:37:37.760 They're eligible for education.

00:37:41.900 They're eligible for health care in many cases.

00:37:43.900 So they get all of those things.

00:37:45.920 And then the parents are eligible through, well, excuse me, they're not eligible, but the

00:37:50.720 parents do access these programs through a variety of means, including, oh, I don't know, fraud

00:37:55.880 in variety of means, including going and getting a driver's license in places where you're able

00:38:01.740 to get one, where they're not checking your citizenship, and then going signing up for

00:38:05.700 public benefits.

00:38:06.760 43% of immigrants, illegal and legal, are on some form of welfare program, 43% in this country.

00:38:16.760 And so if you reduce the amount of illegal aliens in this country, the solution, mass deportations, 0.99

00:38:24.060 guess what?

00:38:24.920 You will reduce the amount of people.

00:38:26.840 This is like basic 101 level stuff, but it's amazing because I hear all these fiscal hawks

00:38:32.280 and people say, oh, oh, oh, you just want to fund mass deportations.

00:38:35.440 That's what this bill is about.

00:38:36.880 That's what the big, beautiful deportation bill is about.

00:38:39.100 That's all you care about is mass deportations.

00:38:40.880 What about fiscal policy?

00:38:42.380 What about fiscal conservatism?

00:38:43.880 And I'm just sitting there like, guys, it's very simple.

00:38:47.360 You can either have social programs or an open border, but you can't have both.

00:38:54.060 You can't have what we've been running in this country for the past.

00:38:58.160 And I'm not just going to say under the Biden auto pen administration.

00:39:01.000 No, I'm going to say going all the way back under Bush, all the way back even to the 1980s.

00:39:07.700 It's been a free for all in this country.

00:39:10.860 Open borders and generous and robust social programs are the death, the death knell of

00:39:18.080 any nation.

00:39:19.400 You can't have both.

00:39:21.540 So if you invite the entire world and say, come take our free stuff, what do you think

00:39:25.540 the world's going to do, boys and girls?

00:39:27.420 And by the way, I get it.

00:39:28.460 This is basic economic incentives, especially if you live within walking distance or caravanning

00:39:36.500 distance of the United States.

00:39:38.180 Of course, you're going to do that.

00:39:39.600 You're going to come up from Guatemala or any of these places.

00:39:42.440 Why?

00:39:42.860 Because they're giving out free stuff.

00:39:45.560 And it's not to mention these, somehow they're able to make their way from Africa over to the

00:39:50.740 United States.

00:39:51.400 Have you ever looked at one of those flights?

00:39:53.140 Those aren't free.

00:39:54.420 Plane tickets are not exactly the cheapest thing on the planet, so they're all coming

00:39:58.960 over.

00:40:00.080 Understand, it's very simple.

00:40:02.160 Pass the big, beautiful deportation bill and the deportations will reduce the size of the

00:40:10.560 entitlement programs.

00:40:12.000 Stop looking only at the supply side and look at the demand side.

00:40:17.340 Reduce the users by removing them from the country.

00:40:21.400 Three, what a concept.

00:40:23.320 Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Jack Posobiec.

00:40:25.700 You've been watching Human Events Daily.

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