The DOJ now suing the city of Boston, alleging its sanctuary city policies interfere with the federal government's deportation efforts. A massive ICE raid at a Hyundai plant in Georgia leaves more than 450 undocumented immigrants in custody. President Trump announces the rebranding of the Department of Defense, and calls for a ban or tax on outsourcing.
00:08:03.580We're here on with Senator Bernie Moreno from the great state of Ohio.
00:08:09.600He's got the new bill, 25% tax on companies who outsource jobs.
00:08:17.360Now, Senator, can you walk us through the mechanisms of this?
00:08:20.140I mean, it almost sounds this would be similar to, I guess, a payroll tax.
00:08:23.840So I guess you could do hours worked, you could do per worker, that sort of thing?
00:08:27.600Yeah, typically these companies have contracts with outsourcing companies.
00:08:32.300So we would tear a tax, the 25% of value of that contract when that contract is serving American citizens.
00:08:39.580And then take the money from that to invest it in workforce development programs,
00:08:44.400skill up American workers to allow workers to do even better and move ahead.
00:08:49.560So, look, this is, like you said, Jack, we're going to put an end to this idea that these corporations can just free will go out and chase the cheapest labor on earth
00:09:01.700and screw over American workers and American communities.
00:09:04.520Well, and talk a little bit about this idea of, they call it the multiplier effect, when, you know, the money is sent overseas.
00:09:16.480That means that that job isn't affecting the community, and in fact, it's disaffecting these communities.
00:09:23.140Yeah, that's probably a six or seven X-fold of the salaries paid.
00:09:26.800So if some worker gets paid $4,000 a month, that $4,000 probably times 10 gets circulated around the community because they go to a restaurant,
00:09:35.280they tip the person there, they go to a beauty salon, they go to a grocery store, they go to the gas station, they pay rent.
00:09:41.960Everybody in the ecosystem flourishes, which is why these countries chase these call centers.
00:09:48.440And, of course, it's phenomenal for those foreign countries and terrible for America, terrible for our communities, Jack.
00:09:55.260So you're going to see companies move more jobs here to the U.S., and that's exactly what we want them to do.
00:10:04.880And so when the jobs come to the United States, it's the exact opposite.
00:10:08.540In fact, it kind of goes back to the way things used to be, where you had a job in your area,
00:10:13.860you could go and then you're spending the money in that area, which creates those secondary and tertiary knock-on effects that promote the economy,
00:10:21.900which, of course, that's how communities run.
00:10:23.800And that's sort of the basis of why we have towns and cities and eventually government comes in.
00:10:29.080It's the very basic bedrock social contract.
00:10:32.760And yet, through technology and through modernity, it seems we've kind of lost sight of all that.
00:10:38.160Well, we've allowed this to go on for too long.
00:10:40.800In some ways, we encourage companies to go out and do that, chase the cheapest labor possible.
00:10:45.320But, look, this is the greatest economy in the world.
00:10:47.380We're more than 25% of the GDP of the world.
00:10:50.120And so companies, we give them all the reasons why they should do business here, good tax environment, good regulatory environment, good workforce policy.
00:10:57.640Now they need to make certain that they take care of their workers and hire American workers and pay them well.
00:11:02.580You know, in fact, with some of these jobs, these call-in jobs, I know that in the U.S., there's lots of people, I'm sure, that would be more than happy to love the flexibility of a stay-at-home, you're on call, you're working for a company, but you could be at home.
00:11:19.700There's so many people that are either unemployed or underemployed that it just seems like this would be an obvious move for them.
00:11:27.400Yeah, and by the way, it's better for the American consumer, too, Jack.
00:11:29.860So when you're calling someplace where you need help or assistance, you want to talk to somebody who speaks your language, knows what's actually going on, you can understand what they're saying.
00:11:41.000Anybody who's ever called a call center and dealt with that, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
00:11:44.180No, it goes without saying, I brought this up at the NatCon conference yesterday and got just a huge, huge applause line from the crowd when I mentioned that.
00:11:56.860And not to mention the customer service, but the scam calls, because it seems that, and I'm sure even you as a U.S. senator probably deal with this,
00:12:06.200that these calls just come in and over and over and over, and yet we, and we know, we know so many of them are coming from overseas, whether automated or it seems like one of these centers.
00:12:17.880And unfortunately, with AI and the auto dialing that people can do now, unfortunately, there are people who get caught up in them and they start giving money or whatever it is over to these scammers.
00:12:30.560The legal part of the company, the one that's being the outsource to the American company, is probably in the same building as the scammers, because that's what gives them scale to do it.
00:12:38.560So the way we deconstruct it is get rid of the part where we're giving those companies the money in the contracts.
00:12:44.760And that's what hopefully this bill does.
00:12:46.720We're going to put it on the floor next week and we'll know which Republicans are on board and which ones aren't.
00:12:51.260And we'll make the Democrats take a vote.
00:12:52.920If they're against the American worker, at least we find out what we already know, which is that they are.
00:12:58.900Senator, I just have to say thank you.
00:13:00.400Thank you for standing up for American workers.
00:13:02.620Thank you for standing up for American families and communities.
00:14:21.500But just, you know, I originally wanted to talk to you because we had done that podcast a couple of months ago now on this sort of what is an American question.
00:14:29.640But I've got to get you in now on this, just the last 24 hours, all of this, I think, that's sort of been floating around, and you've certainly been a pioneer in so much of the discourse on it, has really come to a head, I think, in the last 24 hours.
00:14:48.860There's this tariff the call center's idea that reportedly is being discussed within the walls of the White House.
00:14:56.440Then, of course, this huge online pushback scandal that seems to have backfired, these conservative influencers getting busted for spreading talking points to attack any of these ideas and all of this that the president's putting out.
00:15:14.700But where do you, how do you, how do you chop that all together, and what do you think is driving all of this?
00:15:20.840Well, I think it's been clear for a while to anyone who's actually worried about the United States and its continuation as a people that mass immigration, not just illegal, but legal, is a huge problem.
00:15:32.080This is why we had the big knockdown drag out with the tech right over Christmas, because even after it seemed like conservatives have finally won this victory on immigration, we were going to see big changes from the Trump administration.
00:15:43.040It was clear that the interest of many different business communities was to continue to bring in a large amount of people through the H-1B program.
00:15:51.520Of course, we know that many Indians have come to the United States and monopolized things like hotel chains and liquor stores, gas stations, and now we see trucking and others seeming to be taken over by what is more or less an ethnic mafia moving into the United States.
00:16:06.680And this means more and more people are skeptical about immigration from India coming over.
00:16:11.520They don't think that ultimately there should be some kind of special carve-out for India.
00:16:15.580It shouldn't receive some kind of special relationship.
00:16:18.040Yes, we can see what India is getting out of this deal, but it's very hard to see what it's doing for the average American.
00:16:24.100And that pressure building inside the movement has apparently adversely affected some of the interest in Washington, or at least some of India's interest,
00:16:31.920because apparently some influencers were being compensated to speak in support of them.
00:16:37.800And, you know, we've seen this from time to time.
00:16:39.400We've seen people come out and talk about how we need to protect India.
00:16:46.680It's usually people like Nikki Haley, where you can kind of figure out where that motivation is coming from.
00:16:50.960But now we're starting to see large Twitter accounts who previously didn't seem to have a lot of connections to India using that type of rhetoric.
00:16:58.260It's very clear that they're scared that America is actually looking at really being nationalistic, actually protecting its own economy, ensuring that its jobs and businesses are operated by Americans.
00:17:09.540And they certainly don't want to see a lot of sanctions coming from people like President Trump.
00:17:13.600We've got rumors now that President Trump is considering basically shutting down all IT immigration from India into the United States.
00:17:21.080It's no new tech immigration from India.
00:17:23.280That's, of course, a huge boon to many American workers who would desperately love to have the type of jobs that are currently being given to Indians in the United States.
00:17:32.240I personally know several people who lurk in the tech industry and said, look, I just can't advance any further because they only hire Indians for those jobs.
00:17:42.300I was just talking to or talking about Senator Moreno and who's got this new bill specifically talking about putting a tax on outsourcing.
00:17:53.380We'll see what happens if President Trump does a ban.
00:17:55.540I'm sure they'll work together to to socialize whatever legislation, whatever moves they want to put together.
00:18:01.340But I was just telling the story about a friend I know, a personal friend of mine who was in a situation where he was in a tech company and he spent six months training these overseas workers who he was originally told were going to be where it was originally told were going to be sort of his staff was going to be his team and that he would be the U.S. lead on this team.
00:18:25.420And well, guess what? Once they completed their training, his managers came to him and said, oh, by the way, looks like we'll be able to use the that center.
00:18:34.180So we don't really need your services anymore. And suddenly, of course, they find problems with his or it's ridiculous.
00:18:40.400And so he trained his related he trained his replacements without even being told that was the plan.
00:18:47.560They basically just lied to him and then fired him at once the training was done.
00:18:50.860Yeah, we see so many instances of this. I again have multiple people in my real life.
00:18:56.160This isn't some kind of abstract thing of somewhere. Someone is losing a job.
00:18:59.280No, I I literally know people who are actively losing their jobs to this effect.
00:19:03.620And of course, we've seen major companies like Microsoft lay out large numbers of tech workers and then immediately turn around, start filing for the H1Bs to replace them.
00:19:12.140We all know what was going on. And I'm sorry, but Elon and Vivek talking about how they desperately need all of these people because Americans just won't learn to do the job.
00:19:20.420We have to hear this over and over again, right? Oh, Americans won't do the work.
00:19:24.640We had to hear this with picking fruit or delivering things or bussing tables.
00:19:30.100It's such a joke. We've got a quick break that we are coming up against.
00:19:35.920We'll get right back on this because this is the issue of our times.
00:19:39.760Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:19:41.280Today, you know, they talk about influences.
00:19:49.240These are influences and they're friends of mine.
00:45:46.180And in the book, I tell them, I was like, look, the fact that our enemies are attacking prayer and attacking prayer in schools and the Ten Commandments and Christian monuments,
00:45:56.260the fact that they're still doing it in the Big 2-5 2025 means we still are a Christian nation or they wouldn't be fighting us.
00:46:06.100Wait, Dr. Marshall, I've just read this quote.
00:46:11.060I need to say this because we only have two minutes left.
00:47:21.520And that's why I wrote this book, Christian Patriot, 12 Ways to Create One Nation Under God.
00:47:25.980It's going to renew your mind on political philosophy from a Christian point of view,
00:47:30.480but it's also going to give us action items to go out there and to renew and restore that which is most beautiful about America and Western civilization,
00:47:39.240and that is our Christian heritage, our Christian patrimony.
00:47:42.640So I hope everybody will go get it, Christian Patriot.
00:47:44.880You can get it on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Bookshop.
00:47:47.780It's on sale today, and I appreciate everyone supporting the book, especially you, Jack.
00:47:51.420You've been a great supporter of Christian patriots so far, and I just hope it's a blessing to people and it changes the conversation
00:47:56.980so that we're bold in our Christian faith in the civic sphere.