Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - PRESIDENT TRUMP SHIFTS FOCUS TO THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.760 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:47.380 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.

00:00:50.420 Christ is here.

00:00:51.540 Time is running short for Capitol Hill Republicans hoping to pass the president's massive tax and spending plan by his self-imposed deadline.

00:00:58.540 Republicans don't need a single Democratic vote if they can keep their side of the aisle united. 0.89

00:01:04.580 I have developed a proposal for the Department of Community Safety that would include an 800% increase in funding for hate crime prevention programs.

00:01:13.420 Because ultimately, we cannot simply say that anti-Semitism has no home in this city or no place in this country.

00:01:19.300 We have to do more than talk about it.

00:01:20.640 We have to tackle it.

00:01:21.480 Amid rising tensions with Iran, the Justice Department and FBI say they are now shifting personnel to prioritize counterterrorism cases.

00:01:29.380 After President Trump's return to the White House in January, the Justice Department directed its personnel to focus on immigration and the border.

00:01:36.380 But now they are moving back to counterterrorism and potential threats from Iran and its allies. 0.56

00:01:41.600 This morning, the Iran ceasefire appears to still be holding.

00:01:45.540 We're going to talk to them next week with Iran.

00:01:50.000 We may sign an agreement.

00:01:51.760 I don't know.

00:01:52.400 To me, I don't think it's that necessary.

00:01:54.300 I mean, they had a war.

00:01:55.400 They fought.

00:01:55.940 Now they're going back to their world.

00:01:57.560 I don't care if I have an agreement or not.

00:01:59.320 They took bits and pieces from a leaked top secret intelligence report.

00:02:03.500 And by the way, I understand the FBI is investigating who was the source of that leak because it's an illegal leak to CNN.

00:02:09.500 And this is the same fake news CNN reporter who wrote the story alleging that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation,

00:02:16.140 which we know is one of the greatest political hoaxes this country and the American public have ever seen.

00:02:21.120 What kind of consequence could the leaker face?

00:02:23.380 They should go to jail.

00:02:25.920 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:02:29.760 Here we are, Washington, D.C., a sweltering, hot Washington, D.C. today in the capital of the republic.

00:02:38.560 It is currently an imperial capital, but we are currently trying to transform it back to a small-r Republican capital.

00:02:47.540 Huge news, of course, out of the White House earlier today as well over at the Pentagon.

00:02:52.040 Secretary of Defense Hegseth was conducting this battle damage assessment.

00:02:56.060 He says that they're confident that they completed the objective raising.

00:03:00.100 Now, Caroline Levitt coming out at a press conference, which finished a few moments ago,

00:03:04.660 saying that the United States is now pursuing a diplomatic path for Iran.

00:03:09.940 So it's the carrot and the stick, right?

00:03:12.640 The stick being these B-2 bunker-busting bombs, the penetrators, 0.86

00:03:16.900 and the carrot now being opening up the diplomatic path.

00:03:20.740 And it's been reported that the White House has taken off the sanctions on Iran

00:03:25.760 that prevented them from being able to sell oil to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:03:30.880 Riding side saddle with us today because he's in studio in Washington.

00:03:35.540 It's Human Events Opinion Editor, Kenny Cody.

00:03:37.620 What's up, Kenny?

00:03:38.480 Hey, Jack. How are you, bud?

00:03:39.480 I'm glad to be in D.C.

00:03:40.400 Glad to be on with you.

00:03:41.160 I'm glad to be our nation's capital.

00:03:43.140 It's incredible.

00:03:43.980 You've been working to White House.

00:03:46.680 You've been working to Senate.

00:03:47.860 You've been working to Hill.

00:03:48.700 You're everywhere, man.

00:03:50.220 Pushing the America First agenda, brother.

00:03:51.660 Meeting with the right people and ensuring that President Trump's agenda gets through

00:03:54.640 and got peace through strength of foreign policy.

00:03:56.340 It's been a good week and a good couple of days.

00:03:59.580 Well, I think it's great.

00:04:00.380 Now, Kenny, do you think—now, I keep hearing that the president has this 4 o'clock ceremony,

00:04:05.540 big, beautiful ceremony.

00:04:06.560 Do you think we're going to get that bill signed by the end of the show here today?

00:04:10.280 I don't know if it's going to be anything about the show,

00:04:11.860 but I know most goals are by July 4th, which would be a very patriotic day to announce the

00:04:16.460 big, beautiful bill has passed.

00:04:17.700 But I think he's going to put a lot of pressure on the Senate parliamentarian.

00:04:20.780 Current senators that are upholding the bill, and hopefully people like Senator Tuberville

00:04:24.120 and others keep on pushing that agenda to bypass that Senate parliamentarian that keeps

00:04:28.920 upholding a lot of the things the big, beautiful bill is trying to do.

00:04:33.280 Well, they keep trying to pass the heat to the Senate parliamentarians.

00:04:36.300 Oh, it's his fault.

00:04:37.140 We didn't elect a Senate parliamentarian, okay?

00:04:40.260 We elected a Republican Senate to put forward the America First agenda of the MAGA movement

00:04:46.840 and to get it done.

00:04:48.640 So I see people—a lot of these Republicans up there, they don't want to put the heat

00:04:52.260 where it really belongs.

00:04:53.980 We're coming up on our first break.

00:04:55.940 We're going to come right back.

00:04:57.080 We're going to have former Congressman Matt Gaetz, host of the Matt Gaetz Show, joining

00:05:01.820 us here very shortly when we come back.

00:05:05.060 Human Events Daily continues.

00:05:07.260 Jack Posobiec, Kenny Cody, and next up, Matt Gaetz will be right here.

00:05:16.640 And what America First truly means.

00:05:19.320 Welcome to the second American revolution.

00:05:23.700 All right, Jack, we are back here.

00:05:29.040 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Washington, D.C.

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00:06:55.340 I want to bring in here more Congressman Matt Gaetz to the program.

00:07:00.080 Matt, how are you?

00:07:01.660 Well, it's good to be with you, Jack.

00:07:02.720 Thanks for having me on.

00:07:03.260 All right, so we've won the 12-day war.

00:07:06.540 We've also won the war against regime change.

00:07:09.840 And now the war is about the big, beautiful bill.

00:07:13.220 Where do we stand?

00:07:13.800 Well, we got very unfortunate news today that there are certain wins for the America First

00:07:21.260 movement that were hard fought by the Trump administration and the House to get into this

00:07:25.460 legislation that will not be considered by the full Senate if they get to the bill because

00:07:30.240 of something called the Byrd Rule.

00:07:32.500 So I'm going to take you into the weeds here.

00:07:35.060 But in order for legislation to only need the 50 votes of 50 Republicans plus the Vice

00:07:40.520 President, the Byrd Rule says that it is only fiscal policy matters that can be considered.

00:07:47.900 You can't go outside of something that deals with the budget.

00:07:51.140 That is the sandbox you get to play in.

00:07:53.460 And so within that, the House of Representatives thought, well, one of the big drivers of costs

00:07:57.900 in this country is health care that we're giving to illegal immigrants through the Medicaid

00:08:01.900 program.

00:08:02.880 And so if we put a limitation on that in the bill, it fits within the sandbox and is good

00:08:08.160 policy, delivers on a promise we made to people.

00:08:10.680 We got word today that that is being taken out of the legislation by the Senate parliamentarian.

00:08:15.880 Secondarily, there was legislation to stop federal funding for these mutilations on children

00:08:21.860 in the name of like sex change surgeries.

00:08:24.460 And that also has been taken out of the bill, the prohibition against that removed by the Senate

00:08:29.620 parliamentarian.

00:08:30.380 And know this, the game you're watching is not the game that's being played.

00:08:35.960 This is a fiction.

00:08:37.200 This is a construct.

00:08:38.760 There are certain senators who are beholden to the hospital industrial complex, and they

00:08:43.880 want to see those federal dollars still move to the hospitals where the executives make

00:08:48.420 donations to their campaign that maybe, you know, are very woven into the political establishment.

00:08:54.340 And they don't want they don't want the blame for that.

00:08:57.880 And so they've set up this system where the Senate parliamentarian takes the blame and no

00:09:02.580 one voted against her.

00:09:03.660 We did not go walk the streets in Pennsylvania.

00:09:06.980 We did not go beat beat out every vote with turning point in Arizona.

00:09:11.580 We didn't do all the work to get Georgia back on the right track with election integrity just so that the Senate

00:09:17.140 parliamentarian, some lady nobody voted for against, can tell us that we still have to pay for sex change 1.00

00:09:22.000 operations for children and health care for illegal aliens.

00:09:26.360 This has to be called out.

00:09:27.940 Senate leader John Thune has a responsibility to get these provisions in the bill or fire the Senate parliamentarian.

00:09:34.960 Wow.

00:09:35.600 We've got I want to get Kenny Cody in here.

00:09:37.780 Kenny, you've written about the MAGA agenda, the America First agenda.

00:09:42.220 Walk us through how important all of these line items that Matt Gaetz here is talking about.

00:09:47.160 I mean, one of the most important things that Congressman Gaetz has talked about is this parliamentarian has been there for a long time.

00:09:51.700 And she was appointed by a Democrat when Harry Lee was the Senate majority leader.

00:09:55.600 She was appointed and she's now trying to stop the America First agenda. 0.99

00:09:58.780 Everything that Trump campaigned on during the 2024 presidential election was to wrap all of his main agenda points up,

00:10:06.180 at least get funding for them and get support through and through senators through one big, beautiful bill.

00:10:10.600 This has been known for months.

00:10:11.680 It's been known basically a year in advance.

00:10:13.740 And now for a government bureaucrat that was appointed in 2012 under a Democratic majority leader,

00:10:18.060 now to all of a sudden be stopping the GOP agenda, the GOP caucus and President Trump himself from getting the exact policy points 0.64

00:10:24.940 that he wanted in one bill all wrapped up to vote on is ridiculous.

00:10:28.780 And we should never be overran by a government bureaucrat that has nothing to do with the GOP caucus.

00:10:34.840 I think she's related to, you know, several Democratic operatives.

00:10:38.440 She has connections to Democratic operatives.

00:10:40.460 She is a Democratic operative herself being a bureaucrat appointed by a Democrat.

00:10:44.380 And, you know, all these things need to be countered on, you know, with deportations, with illegal immigrations, with fair trade deals.

00:10:50.040 All these things are that are going to be included in this piece of legislation.

00:10:52.900 We have to ensure that a government bureaucrat that has nothing to do with the GOP caucus, nothing to do with Republicans or conservatives,

00:10:59.680 is not the sole person to block this bill.

00:11:03.000 And, you know, Senator Leader John Thune needs to step up and needs to ask her to resign,

00:11:06.960 which has already been called on by people like Tommy Tuberville and Ted Budd.

00:11:09.760 And more Republican senators need to step up and ensure that she is not the blockade that prevents this legislation from passing. 1.00

00:11:15.340 I love this. The Senate parliamentarian needs to go. Fire her today. 1.00

00:11:22.220 Matt, you and I were chatting a little bit during the break, though, but, you know, we're looking at these election results out of New York.

00:11:29.180 And we could say all that we want about the impact of mass immigration and the direct line that we could see towards the new, you know, quote unquote, Democrat coalition.

00:11:39.660 But what's interesting, though, is that the policies and the rhetoric are totally divorced from the wokeness that you would see in 2020,

00:11:49.280 which is why it's funny going out to this Zoran's like 2020 tweets and finding a bunch of stuff that he hasn't talked about.

00:11:55.700 What did he focus on now?

00:11:57.660 Are the Democrats reading the room and actually moving back to the center on populism?

00:12:03.760 Well, Zoran has game.

00:12:05.680 There's no question about that.

00:12:06.780 We could get into the tactics of it, but what did people think were going to happen?

00:12:11.740 Like, Andrew Cuomo was the great white knight of the Democratic Party in New York.

00:12:17.040 They hunt straight white men in the Democrat Party, like, for sport. 0.61

00:12:23.520 Go ask Elliot Engel.

00:12:25.280 Go ask Joe Crowley.

00:12:26.620 Chuck Schumer's probably on deck if AOC challenges him.

00:12:29.300 Like, a very straight white guy in the Democratic Party in New York.

00:12:32.720 Like, it's not going to end well for you, and it hasn't been ending well for you in quite some time.

00:12:37.600 And so here you get this very charismatic, talented politician.

00:12:41.460 I think that, you know, this guy doing a walk of all of Manhattan was something that showed youth, showed vigor, but also the social media game.

00:12:50.120 If you go and look at this guy's ads, he's actually drawing a leftist audience into policy prescriptions like deregulation to lower cost.

00:13:00.900 And there is this infection on the political left right now where everything has to be about Trump.

00:13:07.240 You know, what can we do to challenge Trump or defeat Trump or arrest Trump or admire his legacy in something?

00:13:12.700 And that just isn't a winning message for people who are worried about their streets being overrun, their physical safety, their economic well-being.

00:13:20.240 And so Zoran went out there and said, I can make street food less expensive with deregulation.

00:13:25.340 I can, you know, have a generational argument to be made about the future of New York, which has a lot of young voters that participate in municipal elections.

00:13:33.260 And so I think this guy is heads on the favorite.

00:13:36.960 He will likely go on to what most people who win the Democratic primary in New York go on to, and that is the mayoralship.

00:13:42.760 But if there is any opportunity here, it is in like a triple down on the coalition between MAGA and black voters.

00:13:50.540 And let's just ride with Eric Adams.

00:13:52.620 My colleague, your friend, Vish Burra, made the argument on my program last night that Curtis Lewa should drop out of the race in New York.

00:13:59.720 Trump should endorse Adams.

00:14:00.900 And, I mean, let's go ride with the brothers.

00:14:03.380 Let's go take New York back, stop the sanctuary policies, and see if that's something new and different and certainly not out of line with President Trump's thinking and his prior defenses of Adams.

00:14:17.720 I'm hearing this more and more.

00:14:20.200 My phone was blowing up all night last night about this idea.

00:14:24.180 I saw Vish put it out as well.

00:14:25.940 Would Curtis Lewa, right, who's he's probably got 250,000 to 300,000 votes, be willing to run on a fusion ticket so he drops out and then roll with the brothers, go on with Eric Adams, and actually find a way for MAGA to take back New York writ large?

00:14:46.280 It could be done.

00:14:47.220 I really do think that it could be done.

00:14:49.340 Guys, we're taking a quick break.

00:14:50.800 We'll be right back here.

00:14:51.920 We're covering the entire waterfront today.

00:14:53.900 We went from Iran to the internal politics of New York City in just a couple of minutes.

00:14:59.260 Where else are you going to get that other than Human Events Daily?

00:15:02.060 Stick to it right here, Real America's Voice.

00:15:08.700 You talk about influencers.

00:15:10.480 These are influencers, and they're friends of mine.

00:15:14.720 Jack Prasovic.

00:15:16.280 Where's Jack?

00:15:17.180 Jack.

00:15:18.200 He's done a great job.

00:15:20.660 He's done a great job.

00:15:21.920 All right, Jack Prasovic.

00:15:24.420 Here we are back.

00:15:25.520 Live Human Events Daily.

00:15:27.940 We're talking about the big, beautiful bill, talking about how important it is for the entire Republican Party to understand the MAGA coalition, so the coalition that got on board with President Trump in 2024.

00:15:43.240 Maybe there's a better way of talking about this, because people have to understand that there's MAGA, but there's other elements of it.

00:15:51.480 There's tech.

00:15:52.320 There's Maha.

00:15:53.340 There's populists.

00:15:54.640 There's workers.

00:15:55.440 There's all of these various things.

00:15:57.480 So it's beyond just, quote, unquote, your core Trump supporters.

00:16:00.620 We're on with Matt Gaetz, as well as Kenny Cody from Human Events.

00:16:07.160 Matt, do you understand what I'm talking about when I say that?

00:16:10.820 There's the MAGA coalition, but it's bigger than just MAGA.

00:16:13.820 Do you get what I'm trying to say?

00:16:14.700 Well, sure, for a political movement to be successful, you have to embrace addition, not subtraction and division.

00:16:23.460 And frankly, it came into sharp relief in this discussion we had over the 12-day war, where people like you and I were encouraging foreign policy realism, encouraging a humble reflection on our recent history of regime change wars in the Middle East.

00:16:39.420 I think that's true to President Trump's goal and certainly the outcome here.

00:16:43.120 But then you had the regime change folks like Mark Levin who are out there saying that anything short of toppling foreign governments was somehow a betrayal of MAGA.

00:16:52.520 And there is, like, the core heartbeat of the America First movement, the people who've been with President Trump and worked to see that his vision has come to fruition.

00:17:03.280 But then you do have these other components of the coalition.

00:17:06.000 And look, there are things in this bill that I think tease out some of the differences.

00:17:13.120 Take, for example, the moratorium on AI.

00:17:15.880 A lot of the tech bros want to see that moratorium in place because they don't want to live in a world where they've got a server somewhere in Louisiana and are unaware of some state novel restriction or regulation that could impair their global or multi-state activities.

00:17:34.060 But then you've got people like Marjorie Taylor Greene who say, look, I am worried that AI could be a job eater in my state if my state legislature wants to ask these questions and approach these policy challenges.

00:17:46.240 I want them to have the freedom to do so under our federalist system.

00:17:49.340 So even that question is, like, dividing some of the core of America First from some of our new arrivals.

00:17:57.880 Well, and by the way, when you mentioned Mark Levin, he attempted to do this at one point.

00:18:02.660 He called this into question.

00:18:03.940 He said, this is real MAGA.

00:18:06.300 So he gets to define what real MAGA is, which, you know, which is funny because this is a guy who didn't support Trump in 2016 or in 2024 in the primary and gave a speech at CPAC saying that he wouldn't support Trump in the general.

00:18:19.760 But but it spikes the broader conversation of what is real MAGA.

00:18:25.500 And I think that, you know, look, I mean, there's no more credibility that I think this guy can lose and that he hasn't already lost in this debate.

00:18:33.400 But when it really the broader question, I think, for all of us is there's a lot of people.

00:18:38.500 And, Matt, I'm sure you saw this when you were in town.

00:18:41.000 There's a lot of people in D.C. who thinks that being MAGA means doing normal Republican stuff with but just with like a little bit more swagger or something like that.

00:18:52.620 And that's not what it is, is it?

00:18:55.600 No, President Trump led a fundamental realignment of politics on the right.

00:19:00.560 We had been told by people like Paul Ryan that we could invade everywhere and invite everyone.

00:19:05.340 We were told that the trade deals would it would be OK if they hurt our middle class so long as they built up the middle kingdom.

00:19:13.840 And President Trump on immigration, on trade and on foreign policy did not just offer the Republican Party a few corollaries.

00:19:23.220 He fundamentally realigned our movement for the better.

00:19:26.480 And by the way, if he hadn't done that, we would still be losing.

00:19:29.740 Right. If we were still running some version of Mitt Romney, this is not that would not have been sufficiently attractive to enough working class people to deliver victories.

00:19:40.820 So for those who want to shake the Bush family tree again and see what falls out, I would ask, like, what about winning is so off putting to you?

00:19:50.660 And don't you realize that the country club version of Republicanism that's sold out, that the people here will not survive in a world where information is more democratized and people can educate themselves on the issues.

00:20:03.660 And so it is funny when people think that they're the digital hall monitors of what constitutes real MAGA.

00:20:10.780 But, you know, the the foreign policy issue is critical also in this respect, Jack.

00:20:16.460 If you look at the people who betrayed Trump over the years, it's always the neocons.

00:20:22.960 Right. You can almost lay a foreign policy paradigm over the likes of the Jim Mattises, the Rex Tillersons, the John Boltons, the John Kellys.

00:20:33.240 They're all the neocons who kind of slipped into the movement.

00:20:36.700 And if those folks are looked at with, I think, a good deal more skepticism, Trump probably has a more durable path to the greatest legacy ever.

00:20:47.500 I think that's exactly right.

00:20:48.900 Kenny Cody, we've got a couple more minutes, but Kenny, walk us through that that core promise of populist nationalism and how it's totally different from neoconservatism or conservatarianism that was peddled by the likes of Bush, Romney, McCain and Ryan.

00:21:04.080 Well, I think that the traditional neocon establishment Republican hates the idea of going out and talking to everyday people, middle class people, about the issues that mean the most to them.

00:21:12.960 I've always described in articles and when I talk to people about the Republican movement, it is not about necessarily populism isn't an ideology.

00:21:20.940 It's a tool. It's listening to the middle class.

00:21:22.920 It's listening to the issues that are the most important to people, such as fair trade deals, such as mass deportations, illegal immigration and an over influx of mass migration into the country.

00:21:32.700 And I think that's why we've had such a success.

00:21:35.080 These established Republicans do not understand that this is not the Bush-era Republicanism of the past.

00:21:40.140 That hasn't won since 2004.

00:21:42.880 That's not going to win in the future.

00:21:44.480 And we have to be able to expand our horizons.

00:21:47.120 This old idea of Republicanism that we're going to put the corporations on the forefront, that we're going to put the lobbying and consulting forums and their priorities on the forefront when we pass policies and allowing them to dictate leadership positions, allowing them to decide congressional primaries, senatorial primaries, local primaries, or what have you, are done and over with.

00:22:05.820 The modern American voter is the most important vote within the GOP, is the most important vote in the MAGA movement.

00:22:11.500 And the MAGA movement has expanded, like you said, to MAHA, like you said, to anti-interventionist foreign policy.

00:22:17.380 And if we're able to prioritize that, like we have the last 10 years since Donald Trump came off the escalator in New York City, that's what's going to facilitate wins.

00:22:25.260 That's what it's all about.

00:22:26.140 We've got about one minute left until the break.

00:22:28.360 Matt Gaetz, got to come on more often, brother.

00:22:30.680 And by the way, congratulations from Tanya and myself to you and Ginger.

00:22:34.620 That was probably the most stunning announcement and gender reveal that I've ever seen.

00:22:40.960 Yeah, it wasn't exactly how we drew it up, but that sometimes happens to me.

00:22:46.040 You got to love it.

00:22:46.840 Where can people go to get everything you're putting out?

00:22:49.900 Yeah, I host a show on One American News, 9 Eastern, 6 Pacific.

00:22:53.480 People can go to OANN.com, get our live app.

00:22:55.840 And this network's growing.

00:22:56.980 We're about to be on the largest cable provider in the country.

00:23:00.880 Spectrum.

00:23:01.640 And it means we're going to be able to deliver more great voices like yours, like Kenny's, and so many others who are fighting for President Trump's bold agenda for the country.

00:23:09.520 Well, congrats to you guys and everything.

00:23:11.400 Please, of course, give my love to the Herrings, as always.

00:23:15.360 Folks, stick here.

00:23:16.600 We'll be back.

00:23:17.700 Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily.

00:23:27.760 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:23:30.680 Where is Jack?

00:23:33.060 Where is he?

00:23:34.360 Jack, I want to see you.

00:23:38.000 Great job, Jack.

00:23:39.420 Thank you.

00:23:40.180 What a job you do.

00:23:41.600 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:23:43.000 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.

00:23:46.780 And these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:23:48.780 Jack Posobiec, here we are back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.

00:23:57.080 We got the great Kenny Cody in studio.

00:24:00.760 He's in there moving and shaking and messing stuff up.

00:24:03.760 He's the one who's got meetings today.

00:24:05.520 See, this is the life for me, folks.

00:24:08.880 Kenny Cody's the one who has to wear the monkey suit and go and have all the meetings.

00:24:12.760 And he's at the White House.

00:24:13.940 He's at the Capitol.

00:24:15.500 I just get to kick back here in studio.

00:24:17.060 I love it, man.

00:24:18.380 I'm glad you're relaxed, bro.

00:24:19.780 How's the trip to D.C. going, though?

00:24:21.140 Give us an update.

00:24:22.120 The Human Events been pushing the America First agenda.

00:24:25.060 It's been just a great trip to Washington.

00:24:26.220 I miss my hills of eastern Tennessee, but I'm still enjoying being on.

00:24:31.600 Well, Kenny, let me ask you this, because this, you know, obviously this is a huge, you know, a huge news cycle that you find.

00:24:41.040 You had this trip, and I know that you had planned it out, you know, far in advance.

00:24:45.280 And obviously you didn't know that we'd have this 12-day war and the bill coinciding for exactly when you came.

00:24:50.780 But maybe it would, hey, maybe it's in God's time.

00:24:52.740 But this view and the fact that you're coming in as someone who is a Gen Z conservative, and I think that we've had Avita Duffy on here recently, and she's saying, look, these issues for Gen Z are not fringe.

00:25:10.960 They're not off to the side.

00:25:13.060 They're front and center.

00:25:14.260 And in fact, there was a huge Gen Z swing in the New York City mayoral race for these populist policies.

00:25:24.020 And I don't want to dismiss that.

00:25:25.160 And people want to do this whole, like, oh, well, he's a Muslim and Sharia law.

00:25:28.840 I don't think that's what he ran on, though.

00:25:31.060 This guy ran on Gen Z policies.

00:25:33.060 And I think it's something where, call me crazy, but Gen Z, they don't want the, oh, we're going to go to war abroad talk.

00:25:43.060 They want more of the, we're going to make life better at home, at the home front kind of level.

00:25:49.480 So give me, or give us, audience-wise, an understanding of where Gen Z stands on this question and these very serious questions in terms of their priority matrix when it comes to government.

00:26:01.580 I mean, yeah, I think Mamdani, I mean, regardless of what you think about him, I mean, he's a communist, he's a socialist.

00:26:08.740 I think all those things are true.

00:26:10.520 But, again, populism is a tool.

00:26:12.620 It is not an ideology that pigeonholes anybody into a corner.

00:26:16.140 It is an idea that he goes out, the populist goes out, and meets with his people, meets with Gen Z specifically because he is a part or at least closely related to that population and that age demographic.

00:26:28.940 You know, he's going out and saying, I want to lower the food costs on, like, Indian food carts.

00:26:34.440 Like, I forget what that exact dish that he posted about was, but he was literally talking about buying one food dish that's a street product from $10 to $8.

00:26:43.520 He's talking about, you know, taking over grocery stores and making items cheaper for the, you know, the New York City public.

00:26:50.000 He's talking about, you know, lowering rent.

00:26:52.120 He's talking about things that mean something to people, groceries, food, housing.

00:26:55.780 These things do land.

00:26:57.540 Now, you have all of these, you know, the LGBTQ stuff. 1.00

00:27:01.020 You have the race pandering. 0.91

00:27:02.640 All those things that conservatives like me and the traditional American do not agree with and do not want to hear about.

00:27:09.200 But he is using that populist mantra to communicate with Gen Z in a way probably no other New York City mayoral candidate has before.

00:27:17.340 And that's why he beat Cuomo.

00:27:18.680 But regardless of betting markets, regardless of, you know, the presumption that a former governor was going to win a mayor's race,

00:27:24.640 he dominated that conversation, and he did make it about himself.

00:27:29.040 I mean, he was known about two months ago as this radical Islamic populist, and people kind of brushed him off.

00:27:36.860 But, I mean, in the last weeks of the campaign, he really concentrated that populist message.

00:27:42.200 And, you know, populism doesn't necessarily mean that we need to cave on principles.

00:27:45.660 Populism doesn't mean that we can't hold those traditional conservative values, but it does mean that things like MAGA and other political movements can utilize the populist movement into knowing what the middle class and low-propensity voters care about to have that turnout, to turn out Gen Z as they did in that election.

00:28:03.660 And it was the difference in New York City, and Gen Z was the difference in President Trump's election in 2024.

00:28:09.880 Because of them being things like anti-war, pro-middle class, pro-working class, it's one of the reasons why that coalition was catered to and gotten by Donald Trump in 2024.

00:28:19.260 So populism needs to be utilized by conservatives nationally, needs to be used by conservatives globally, and if we're able to keep on facilitating that over the next 10 years, MAGA can really capitalize on Gen Z and the future generations by solely just using those populist mantras.

00:28:35.980 And so, Kenny, this is what we're talking about here, and I think this is absolutely central, not just to the MAGA message, but even to the debate on the big, beautiful bill.

00:28:44.320 Because they say, oh, we're just getting rid of this policy item, this line item, that line item.

00:28:49.200 Now, they haven't touched the no-tax items, which I think are massive, no-tax on tips, no-tax on overtime.

00:28:54.260 But it sounds like what you're saying is that Gen Z as a cohort, which, by the way, votes at a very higher clip than we've seen the youth vote in the past.

00:29:04.080 The current, I think it's 18 to 29 right now, votes much higher, 60% of them broke from Zoran in this one.

00:29:10.580 But you also saw a lot of Gen Z going for Trump, particularly Gen Z males, and I think a lot of this has more to do.

00:29:17.540 So certainly there's a backlash to wokeness, but what comes after that?

00:29:20.880 Okay, we're anti-woke, but what do we want? We want that right-now money, right?

00:29:24.460 Congress is up there dragging its feet, and so they're going to say, I want something that's going to help me right now.

00:29:30.420 Right here, right now, not 5,000 miles away, 6,000 miles away, right now, right here, because, look, you know, the Trump stuff, you know, they'll talk about this, but you know what?

00:29:41.680 We want something that's food, that's rent.

00:29:45.340 You're talking about things that affect people on a regular basis and a daily basis.

00:29:50.000 And, Kenny, you and I could sit here and talk about, you know, Milton Friedman until we're blue in the face and bring up all the great work of Thomas Sowell and so many others about, you know, rent control and poverty and, you know, grocery stores and how all this leads to the situation.

00:30:06.360 But we're talking about electoral politics.

00:30:09.280 And when it comes to Gen Z specifically, this rhetoric and these policies are extremely popular.

00:30:17.120 And I think that's something that I'm just going to say, I think that's something that a lot of Republicans in D.C. haven't quite updated themselves on yet.

00:30:24.680 100%.

00:30:25.120 I mean, Congressman Gates said it earlier, do you not want to win?

00:30:28.760 And these issues win, these strategies win.

00:30:31.940 If we can absolutely make a coalition of populists and nationalists that are proud of their country but want their children taken care of, you know, that's why you saw backlash to the LGBTQ movement.

00:30:41.860 They're seeing their children be indoctrinated by these social abnormalities, by nonprofits that are pushing this, by social media stars that are pushing the transgender movement. 0.88

00:30:52.240 The reason that you're seeing people go away from that is because of populism.

00:30:56.200 It has become popular to go against this evil Marxist ideology.

00:31:00.180 In the same way it's been popular, for no taxes on tips.

00:31:03.300 And, you know, it's not really that complimentary for the Senate to keep that in because it literally got 100-0, one of the first 100-0 votes that I've ever seen in nearly a quarter of a century on one bill.

00:31:14.200 They actually passed and approved tax on tips, or no tax on tips, right, because it's a popular populist mantra.

00:31:20.280 But they're leaving out the things that they think can be skewed, things like immigration, you know, and things like Matt Gaetz talking about with AI.

00:31:26.940 There are a lot of issues that may be 50-50, may be 60-40, but the GOP is responsible for delivering on President Trump's agenda.

00:31:35.760 These senators that were up for re-election in 2024 literally went to their states and said, we are going to pass one big, beautiful bill.

00:31:42.560 We're not going to pass, you know, three or four bills in a span of three or four years.

00:31:46.420 We're going to pass one big, beautiful bill on the issues that you all voted President Trump and me, as a senator, in to vote for and in to put into the agenda.

00:31:55.120 Now they're dragging their feet.

00:31:56.720 Now they're looking for excuses to take specific representatives out and to take specific issues out of one bill.

00:32:02.600 And that's not what Gen Z voted for.

00:32:05.320 That's not what the MAGA movement voted for.

00:32:07.520 That's not what even independents voted for.

00:32:09.300 They are for a transparent legislative policy that is going to cover the bases that President Trump campaigned on, and these senators and congressmen and even local leaders campaigned on.

00:32:20.360 And we need to deliver on that.

00:32:21.940 And, again, we shouldn't let a government bureaucrat that's been there since 2012 for 13 years just override elected officials and, most importantly, the man who got the president of the United States in November.

00:32:32.440 You know, and I think what you're walking through here is, so you've got, populism is the name of the day.

00:32:43.400 Populism is the name of the day.

00:32:45.020 And President Trump won because of populism.

00:32:47.620 But then, along comes Zoran Mandami.

00:32:51.600 And what does he do?

00:32:52.860 He brings up the populist left.

00:32:55.000 So there's two versions of populism, one of which is the populist left, one of which is the populist right.

00:33:00.500 The populist right is MAGA.

00:33:03.000 The populist left is this.

00:33:05.660 You get this sort of infusion of the popular policies.

00:33:10.740 But then he goes a step further and says, and we're going to strip all the money from the landlords.

00:33:15.400 And we're going to go after all of the people who are successful.

00:33:18.640 And we're going to give you all sorts of free stuff like crazy.

00:33:22.140 And this shows, I think, Kenny, the danger of not following through on the MAGA populist agenda when it comes to economics because these guys are going to come up now and start offering free stuff all over the place.

00:33:35.460 And they do not care what they burn down and how many billionaires and millionaires move out of New York City and take jobs with them because that's what they're all about.

00:33:46.700 This type of rhetoric becomes very, very popular when you are in situations where the haves versus the have-nots, the lower class feel like they're being completely unheard and completely unregarded.

00:34:01.800 And I think a lot of Gen Z feels that way.

00:34:04.320 A hundred percent.

00:34:05.160 And, you know, one thing, like the biggest tweet that I've seen on Twitter involving Mamdani is that queer liberation is defunding the police.

00:34:12.500 Like a statement that makes absolutely no sense in general, right?

00:34:16.220 There's no dictionary definition as to what that actually means.

00:34:19.140 But it's key words, right?

00:34:20.580 Like you're placating to the far left by including those two phrases, queer liberation and defunding the police.

00:34:26.620 For some reason, those two phrases coincide with a lot of those far left Gen Z Democrats or progressives.

00:34:34.940 And if they hear that, they're like, Andrew Cuomo isn't saying that.

00:34:38.020 Eric Adams isn't saying that.

00:34:39.240 No other candidate's saying that.

00:34:40.360 But I'm hearing Mamdani say it, and I'm going to relate to that.

00:34:42.480 Now, populism can be simplistic.

00:34:44.820 It can be a way to start a conversation on one topic and lead into the enclaves of policy and others.

00:34:52.040 But, you know, Mamdani did a pretty good job about recruiting those kinds.

00:34:56.320 And that's why populism can also be dangerous for the left.

00:34:58.940 And if MAGA doesn't use it, it can be dangerous for us, too, because this is now the name of the game.

00:35:03.640 We are no longer the country club Republicans of the past.

00:35:06.260 We are not country club conservatives or neoconservatives.

00:35:08.540 We are now a populist nationalist movement.

00:35:10.920 And that's what these current senators that are not pushing the Be Beautiful Bill need to learn from.

00:35:14.080 You need to learn that the modern voter of today is not for the country club, small-town fundraisers that you can go and talk to your biggest donors about what you're going to vote for.

00:35:24.680 They want to see action now on the issues that they voted Trump and MAGA in to do all wrapped up in one beautiful bill.

00:35:31.080 And they need to be able to capitalize on those populist sentiments and make the Republican Party a nationalist populist party like it's been the last 10 years and keep it that way for future generations.

00:35:40.400 Absolutely.

00:35:40.840 All right, folks, we've got a break coming up.

00:35:44.280 We've also got a very special guest who's going to be joining myself and Kenny Cody here on Human Events.

00:35:50.260 First time, I believe, that we've had him on, although we've covered him in the past.

00:35:54.940 So we're going to have Head Secretary Scott Turner joining us in just a few moments right after the break.

00:36:01.100 We're going to try to deliver you guys a shorter break so that we can get him on for as long as possible.

00:36:06.660 He's giving us some of that precious time.

00:36:08.620 But that's what we do here on Human Events Daily.

00:36:10.560 We take you directly to the policy deciders and the decision makers.

00:36:16.500 Right back.

00:36:17.380 Real America's voice.

00:36:19.380 Do not change that dial.

00:36:21.680 Jack is a great guy.

00:36:31.680 He's written a fantastic book.

00:36:33.480 Everybody's talking about it.

00:36:34.680 Go get it.

00:36:35.780 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:36:39.740 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

00:36:42.920 Amen.

00:36:43.300 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live here.

00:36:49.620 Human Events Daily.

00:36:50.880 We're very excited for a debut guest, although we've covered him in the past at various rallies and events.

00:36:59.840 But never in this capacity, folks, we've got HUD Secretary Scott Turner now joining us to tell us all about his new policy on millennial housing and some updates.

00:37:11.840 Apparently, moving day is coming up for HUD.

00:37:15.000 Secretary Turner, thank you so much for joining us here.

00:37:16.740 Well, thank you, Jack.

00:37:19.880 It's always good to be with you.

00:37:21.880 Thank you for having me on your show.

00:37:23.760 You know, in our country right now, we have a housing affordability issue.

00:37:29.460 And at HUD, we've been working very hard to bring down regulations as it pertains to housing.

00:37:35.940 You know, a lot of people in our country, in particularly millennials, are asking, and I have one, a 24-year-old son, and say,

00:37:42.660 man, how am I going to afford a house in America today?

00:37:47.000 And so myself and our team under the president's leadership, we've been taking down burdensome regulations, not only from the federal standpoint,

00:37:55.480 but also encouraging localities to take inventory of their regulations.

00:37:59.900 What's causing developers and builders not to be able to build affordable workforce housing in our country?

00:38:06.980 Right now, we need about 7 million units of housing of all types, multifamily, single-family, manufactured housing, duplex, condo.

00:38:16.320 And so we've been working to take down regulations like the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing Rule,

00:38:21.820 which would restore flexibility back to the localities.

00:38:25.500 And so when millennials and others are asking how we're going to afford, at HUD, we are hard at work to make sure that housing affordability comes down.

00:38:34.580 The supply goes up, the cost comes down, and also opportunity zones.

00:38:39.380 You know, the initiative that we had in the first Trump administration that was so transformative when it comes to building housing,

00:38:46.200 about 1 million people in opportunity zones have been lifted out of poverty.

00:38:51.420 Over 300,000 units of housing have been built in opportunity zones with $90 billion of investment.

00:38:57.480 And so I'm excited about the continuation and expansion of opportunity zones because this will help us to build more housing,

00:39:06.300 more affordable workforce, attainable housing in our country, not only for millennials,

00:39:11.540 but for the people of America to accomplish and reach the American dream of home ownership.

00:39:15.980 Well, and this is so important, by the way, not just for the president's agenda and what he ran on,

00:39:24.240 but also for so many people that are out there because we've seen, Secretary, these numbers when we look at birth rates in the United States,

00:39:33.540 when we look at family formation, home ownership, it's so low.

00:39:37.280 It's coming in under where it should be for so many Americans.

00:39:41.700 And this really cuts across all demographics, right?

00:39:46.720 It's affecting everybody, class, demographic, doesn't matter.

00:39:49.660 It's really hitting everybody.

00:39:51.300 So is this policy that you're now instituting, does this, in your view, is this something that will help increase that?

00:39:59.000 Yes, and you're exactly right on the statistics that you gave.

00:40:02.460 You know, home ownership is down.

00:40:04.760 The cost of housing is up.

00:40:06.460 But one encouraging fact that I have for you, Jack, is since we have come in since January 20th,

00:40:12.960 when the president took office, 140,000 new homebuyers have utilized our FHA insurance mortgage-backed loans.

00:40:23.160 And so 140,000 first-time homebuyers, you know, since January is very encouraging.

00:40:28.200 We're off to a good start.

00:40:29.780 There's much work to be done, but I want to encourage the people of America.

00:40:33.500 You know, when you think about HUD, oftentimes you don't think about how we have the FHA program here to help those first-time homebuyers who may not be able to afford to put down the institutional 20% down payment.

00:40:48.000 And so HUD is working very hard to not only identify, but to work with first-time homebuyers, to work with our veterans, and to work with those who may have a low to moderate income.

00:40:57.880 And so FHA is a tremendous program, and that's a great encouragement for us here at HUD and for our country.

00:41:03.280 And we'll continue to work hard to bring down regulations, to bring the supply up, and work with public-private partnerships so that more Americans, no matter their age, can achieve the American dream of home ownership.

00:41:15.160 Well, Secretary Turner, there's no question that home ownership and ownership of assets in general is the key to unlocking the pathway to generational wealth.

00:41:27.720 And the sooner that anyone is on that pathway, the sooner that they'll be able to get to the American dream.

00:41:34.240 And I think this is absolutely something that President Trump campaigned on, and I find it very encouraging that you're making it so central to the agenda.

00:41:41.600 And one of the other pieces, and we've only got about a minute here in the show, that the President Trump campaigned on was reduced, draining the swamp.

00:41:49.720 And I hear that housing and urban development is actually moving out of D.C. proper.

00:41:56.780 Yeah, Jack, so it's great news here.

00:41:59.440 HUD will have a new home in Alexandria, Virginia, and this will save the American taxpayer hundreds of millions of dollars in the next several years.

00:42:08.520 And the first thing we are here, we're stewardship, and so we have to steward well over taxpayer dollars.

00:42:13.960 Also, it'll be a healthy place, a safe place for our HUD employees to work.

00:42:19.600 The morale and the culture will change definitely here at HUD.

00:42:23.720 And so we're very excited as we represent, you know, housing in our country as under the President's leadership to be great stewards over taxpayer dollars.

00:42:32.380 Because the HUD home that we have now will be no more.

00:42:36.700 And moving to Alexandria also will be a great culture and paradigm shift, getting out of Washington, D.C., and serving the people of America at HUD.

00:42:46.600 Well, there's no question about that.

00:42:48.180 Secretary Turner, where can people go to follow everything and all the good work that you're putting out?

00:42:52.140 HUD.gov.

00:42:54.980 We'll have it.

00:42:55.860 And also, if anybody has any ideas or questions, please reach out to us.

00:42:59.340 We have an open line of communication to help and serve the American people.

00:43:03.900 Got to love it.

00:43:04.680 The open door policy.

00:43:06.480 Thank you so much there, Mr. Secretary.

00:43:08.620 Kenny Cody, shout out real quick, 10 seconds.

00:43:10.720 Where can people go to follow you?

00:43:12.060 They follow me at KDKTN on Truth Social and on X.

00:43:15.300 And all my articles are on CoddHunenevents.com.

00:43:18.160 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.

00:43:20.680 We'll be right back.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 26, 2025

PRESIDENT TRUMP SHIFTS FOCUS TO THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL

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