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00:08:51.420will chamberlain on from the article three project will i'm calling this a a victory in
00:08:58.200the redistricting war in terms of the the uh throwing out of the districts there in uh in
00:09:07.620virginia but also the fact that republicans actually responded by using power for once
00:09:14.020that's something you and i have been talking about for uh the better part of a decade at
00:09:18.700almost over a decade at this point. And talk to us through what a resounding victory this was,
00:09:26.640but also the fact that, guys, all you have to do is pick up the pen and actually do things.
00:09:34.360That's right. It's a huge victory in Virginia. It actually makes the decision of the GOP not
00:09:40.640to spend a huge amount of money fighting the redistricting battle make a lot more sense.
00:09:44.220Maybe they were more confident and rightly confident that the referendum was illegal under the Virginia state constitution.
00:09:51.200But it's really nice to see. I mean, if you look at the entirety of the redistricting battle, I mean, except with the exception of places like Indiana, that those recalcitrant legislators have now been punished.
00:10:03.060In general, we're seeing Republican legislators all around the country be extremely aggressive about using the power they have and about using the recent Calais decision from the Supreme Court to go ahead and move aggressively to redistrict away a lot of these blue districts in the Deep South, which there's no equivalent to these districts in New England, for example, where there's just a complete lockdown by the Democrats.
00:10:27.960So it's looking very good for the Republicans on redistricting. I mean, we should pick up something like 12 to 14 seats, I believe, total, which is, you know, in the context of a 435 seat house where most of the seats are pretty safe. That's an enormous change.
00:10:43.960I mean, it's going to put Democrats really behind the eight ball. I mean, they might still win just a very tiny majority now, but just in general, they're going to be behind the eight ball really badly going forward for almost every House seat. And then that's not even accounting for the fact that when you have the census coming in 2030, that's going to shift even more seats into red states and away from blue states. Things are going to get really, really apocalyptic for the Democrats.
00:11:06.780no this this is actually a huge huge pickup uh tyler boyer is up there i was just chatting with
00:11:14.440him from turning point action talking about how you know this this really means that republicans
00:11:20.700only need to win a few toss-ups and actually can hold on to the house which would be in a
00:11:26.100midterm year like this uh kind of unprecedented this is something so 90 percent of the time we
00:11:31.300The crack staff over here at Human Events Daily checked this, and I think only in 1998 and 2002, again, after the September 11th attacks, that was the only time that we saw this, where the incumbent party that held the White House was able to maintain the House.
00:11:52.100So it really doesn't happen often, but because of these moves, Republicans could actually buck the trend.
00:11:58.900Yeah, no, and it's a really good thing.
00:12:00.480And I think Democrats have gotten away with a lot of shenanigans.
00:12:03.760I think a really good way to understand what's happening is that despite having won a two point popular vote victory, which should have given when you think about it, the Republicans about a 10 to 12 seat majority in the House.
00:12:15.160If that popular vote victory was translated into House seats, we only had like a one or two seat majority.
00:12:22.200And that's because of the existing gerrymandering disparity against Republicans. Right. When you compare a place like Illinois to what had been like in the South. I mean, it's just it's been absolutely brutal for Republicans for a very long time.
00:12:36.940So I think we're really going to see a course correction here.
00:12:40.740And Democrats are suddenly I think this is actually the way ultimately to get to a kind of resolution of what is the most fiercely polarized moment in our politics for a long time.
00:12:51.780It's so polarized because it's so close in a world where Democrats simply don't feel like they can win the House back with their current set of policies.
00:12:58.520They may just have to moderate if they ever want to win again.
00:13:00.800And that itself would be a massive victory.
00:13:03.200No, I think it would. And it just needs to be said that, guys, this will what would your message be to the sort of the Republicans who are now unemployed in places like Indiana or the Republicans in Utah that were unwilling to go along with the redistricting?
00:13:22.420And I would be remiss if I did not mention the fact of the Republicans in the state Senate of Nebraska, where in 2024, Charlie Kirk himself went in and said, hey, guys, why are you just handing a district over to the Democrats every year?
00:13:38.520we called it the great Cornhusker swindle, where they were just handing an electoral vote away to
00:13:45.020the Democrats. And then they were under certain, you know, election models that year, that vote
00:13:50.460could have come, you know, in extreme importance. And yet they said, oh, no, you know, we don't do
00:13:57.640things that way. That's not how we play. What is it with that form of Republican?
00:14:03.720I think that form of Republican in the modern world is going to be find themselves those those Republicans are going to find themselves private citizens in short order. I think it's really straightforward in a world where Democrats wield their political power unbelievably aggressively against conservatives and have the ability to do incredibly damaging things at the federal level.
00:14:23.760You as a Democrat, as a Republican officeholder, your first obligation is not to weaken the electoral power of the people who voted for you.
00:14:31.220That's number one. And I think it's bigger than Trump. It's bigger than Baga.
00:14:35.980It's fundamentally about what are your voters electing you to do?
00:14:39.900Are they electing you to dilute their voting power? No, they're electing you to maximize their voting power.
00:14:45.280And so, you know, you can't be fair to people who wouldn't be fair to you in return.
00:14:49.620And there's no evidence anywhere in the country that Democrats would intentionally be fair to Republicans when it came to redistricting, ever.
00:14:56.800They have a normative view that Republicans are evil and therefore disenfranchising them is good.
00:15:02.480You shouldn't respond to that by trying to win their approval.
00:15:05.900You should respond to that by taking the fight to them in turn.
00:15:09.480Will, I believe you had a term at one point for those types of conservatives.
00:15:30.240Well, things are hairy in this country between Republicans and Democrats.
00:15:33.900And those of you – the peacetime conservatives who would be inclined – or peacetime Republican officers who would be inclined to make deals with their counterparts and give them power that they're not entitled to and that there's no reason to give them, those people are going to find themselves sidelined, rightfully so.
00:15:51.380Well, I wanted to originally have you on because so later today, I believe it's going to be about 5 p.m. Eastern.
00:15:59.240There is going to be a big ruling set of rulings in the Tyler Robinson case is going to be delivered by WebEx where Judge Graff is going to come down on two pieces.
00:16:09.260One being whether or not the preliminary hearing, which is currently set to begin in 10 days, whether or not that will be delayed because Tyler Robinson's lawyers have used a variety of, shall we say, creative reasons to call for a delay, and also on cameras in the courtroom.
00:16:27.880What do you expect we're going to hear in just a couple hours' time in the Tyler Robinson rulings?
00:16:33.060I expect that the prosecution is going to win across the board.
00:16:37.880I don't think that the defense motions are particularly persuasive.
00:16:41.640You know, the arguments that we need to continue a preliminary hearing, a preliminary hearing is just whether you determine whether there's been probable cause.
00:16:47.860And intuitively, there's obviously probable cause in this case.
00:16:50.500So the court is going to be reluctant to delay that.
00:16:53.820And, you know, any arguments that would be prejudicial are just going to seem sort of frivolous.
00:16:57.540On cameras, I suspect that the court is just going to want to ensure that there aren't conspiracy theories about this case and that, therefore, it's very important that justice be seen to be done and that people, the public, be able to see what these witnesses have to say about was one of the most public murders in American history.
00:17:19.140And, yeah, so I want to get – we have a couple of minutes until the break, but I do want to dig into that a little bit more.
00:17:23.560on the question of and this is a big ruling the question of the live streaming the cameras
00:17:29.200this isn't going to be about and correct me if I'm wrong this isn't going to be about cameras
00:17:33.240in the entire trial this is just going to be about the prelim is that right I'm not sure actually I
00:17:38.740haven't read the specifics of that part of the motion so I don't know uh maybe you know better
00:17:42.380it could well it could can it could I suppose um could potentially cover both but at the same time
00:17:50.720Even if it is only the cameras in the prelim, I'm sure we can sort of get a sense of where the judge is at on this question, given how he rules today.
00:17:58.240And I think that, you know, there's an interesting, oddly enough, I think the question of cameras in the preliminary hearing is closer than cameras in the trial because there's a reasonable argument to be made that given that evidence might be presented in the preliminary hearing, you want to minimize the extent to which people see it at this point in the trial because the jury hasn't been selected yet.
00:18:14.820And so there's not that sort of curative instruction going on where the jury is knowing that they should not be accessing the Internet, blah, blah, blah, because we don't even know who the jurors are.
00:18:23.380So that I actually, you know, off the top of my head intuitively, that's actually a much closer question.
00:18:32.380I think that I think that it does actually make sense that there could be a difference here.
00:18:39.060But at the same time, I do also think that and I've just always said for the purposes of transparency, you know, this, of course, what the judge is going to be weighing, you know, public transparency versus bias jurors.
00:18:53.280That's the ruling that we're going to get just a couple hours time.
00:18:56.400Tyler Robinson set to return to at least virtually court today for the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:22:10.160Well, it's about establishing probable cause and justifying the decision of the prosecutor to bring charges.
00:22:17.240And it's evaluated by a judge. It's not a trial by jury. It's not beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:22:22.380The standard is probable cause, which is not a high standard to meet.
00:22:26.320I think it's going to when this hearing happens, it's going to be met in spades.
00:22:29.680This is, you know, so the question of delaying the hearing is really just delaying the trial.
00:22:34.600And so it's it's where, you know, it's it's where the the government has the state has to come in and say, hey, you know, we're filing these charges and here's why.
00:22:45.200Yeah. And here's and here's the evidence. And, you know, here's some of the evidence. We don't it's not even all the evidence. Here's some of the evidence that demonstrates that at a minimum, there's probable cause that this person committed this crime. And in this case, the evidence is overwhelming.
00:22:59.920So. One thing I saw that was kind of interesting on the witness list, it lists a lot of, you know, it seems to be a lot of some local police that were at the UVU campus where Charlie was murdered, multiple state agents.
00:23:15.920agents, it looks like SBI, that's the State Bureau of Investigation in Utah, but then also number
00:23:21.100five, Lance Twiggs. And this is interesting. It looks like he's going to be doing a recorded
00:23:26.520statement in lieu of testimony. And the fact that it was disclosed October 24th, there's actually
00:23:34.040a typo, it says 2022-5, but let's say that was 2025. Does that sound like it's a recording of
00:23:40.940an interview that was lance twiggs being the boyfriend of tyler robinson an interview that
00:23:46.080was recorded with him in the wake of the initial investigation and you know so he won't be you
00:23:52.920know called um personally to the stand and normally you would see that you wouldn't see
00:23:57.720in a trial uh pre-recorded testimony most of the time you would see live uh live witness testimony
00:24:04.440and again is that because this is the preliminary hearing i think so but you know this is i finally
00:24:09.720started reading that motion about hearsay, and a lot of it had to do with a confrontation clause.
00:24:14.740So suddenly that all makes sense. I didn't understand that that was what was going to
00:24:18.600happen with Mr. Twiggs. But I think what the defense is trying to say is that the federal
00:24:22.560confrontation clause, which entitles criminal defendants to have the ability to confront their
00:24:26.640accusers, the idea being that even their argument is even in a preliminary hearing, we should be
00:24:32.060entitled to confront our accusers and cross-examine them. So if Twiggs isn't going to show up in
00:24:36.660person, then his video testimony should be excluded as hearsay. And that certainly at trial, this
00:24:42.360would not be permissible, right? Certainly at trial, Twiggs would not be able to just record
00:24:47.280his testimony and then send it in. He'd have to show up in court to testify against Robinson,
00:24:52.460which I think everybody would agree is a sensible precaution, a way to ensure that, you know,
00:24:57.520it's not a one-sided presentation that Robinson's attorneys are able to cross-examine him properly,
00:25:02.320which i actually look forward to because it'd be really interesting to see uh twigs himself
00:25:07.620cross-examined by robinson's lawyers and maybe twigs's culpability fully explored um but well
00:25:15.180in the end i think on that i don't think it'll ultimately matter one way or the other where
00:25:19.420their twigs is going to be able to testify at this hearing i mean the judge might conclude that
00:25:23.240actually yeah he shouldn't be he shouldn't be able to testify via recorded video even though
00:25:27.660it's just a preliminary hearing but i think that's one of the issues that will be determined
00:25:31.440this afternoon is, you know, this specific question. Well, it seems to be because they
00:25:36.800have this motion coming up now. And again, you know, to your point about the cross-examination
00:25:42.040there, that's going to be very interesting because we've also seen in Robinson's defense
00:25:47.500statements questions about his parents and whether or not they'll be called. It doesn't look like
00:25:52.660they're being called at the preliminary hearing, but it does appear that the defense expects the
00:25:58.680prosecution to call the parents at the trial. And of course, you know, all of this is just,
00:26:04.400just very unprecedented. It is something that you do not typically see people this close to
00:26:10.800a defendant coming up and testifying. Yeah. Well, it's rare for parents to turn in their
00:26:15.700own children, but in this case they did so and credit to them. I think, you know, it's a real,
00:26:19.380real credit to the parents of, you know, to, to understand the, to be pro-social in that respect
00:26:24.660and understand that whatever their affinity towards their son,
00:26:30.480they had to pick up the phone and make that call for my own kids.
00:34:07.580Because, again, this isn't about the actual trial itself.
00:34:12.520This is just about the presentation of charges and the probable cause, meaning the preliminary evidence that's been gathered.
00:34:20.600Yeah, and I think that, you know, and this might just be a hopeful wish on my part, but I do think that Judge Graff is going to allow it to go forward.
00:34:30.200The prosecutors made a really strong argument that a preliminary hearing is simply to establish if there's probable cause.
00:34:37.540And they had listed the evidence that they plan to bring to show that there's probable cause.
00:34:42.060Now, for the defense, they want to have this delay. But if there's no probable cause that Robinson is the guilty party, then why wouldn't they want to go ahead with the preliminary hearing, say that there is no probable cause and get their guy sprung as quickly as possible?
00:34:57.600It seems that they know there's probable cause. The prosecutor knows that there's probable cause, and probably that probable cause should be shown so they can get this whole thing underway.
00:35:07.080This has already been delayed. There's been a lot of delays from the defense.
00:35:11.060We even saw an instance where Judge Graff scolded the defense for not what he said prioritizing the scheduling for this capital case, which takes precedence over a lot of other things.
00:35:21.960Um, so we're going to have to see what happens, but I would think that he would allow this
00:40:24.380The left, the radical left, the person who shot Charlie Kirk, that's our enemy.
00:40:29.420This is a time, at least for me, to try to step back from the noise of the world and just really reflect on what you have, your health, your family, your friends, your opportunities, and that you live in the greatest country in the world.
00:40:43.800I'm very thankful for Real America's Voice.
00:40:46.840I'm thankful for this network and its commitment to not only supporting the White House and supporting President Trump,
00:40:52.900but also supporting faith and freedom and family.
00:40:55.860That's what this network is all about.
00:40:58.500This past Sunday, sitting at home in Georgia, I decided that it's time to, and I'll use a MMA reference,
00:41:07.560it's time to leave the gloves in the ring and walk away.
00:41:13.800the people of real america's voice they are just not the owners of a conservative news outlet that
00:41:27.160love this country they genuinely love their employees they are one of the best companies
00:41:32.580they are the best company that i've ever worked for
00:41:43.800we love you brian we've got of course the the great brian glenn with us brian man the the
00:41:57.220the way that that thing ended i thought like this was like rest in peace brian glenn what's going on
00:42:02.740yeah i don't know jack if people should send flowers uh to mourn this it sounds like an
00:42:09.740obituary, put some dates on the end of it, and call it a day. No, it is a great tribute video
00:42:15.420that Clayton and the folks at Real America's Voice put together to kind of highlight my time
00:42:21.960here. And Jack, it's been a pure pleasure of being here at the White House and covering the
00:42:28.080White House for Real America's Voice, and for you as well, for Human Events. It's just been an
00:42:32.860honor, Jack, and I just want to say thank you to you and everyone else behind the camera.
00:42:36.680yeah i remembered that you know i was so many times you know i i we we do this stuff and we
00:42:44.040just move on to the next thing and i was sitting there i was like oh yeah i was out in davos with
00:42:48.440you and and we did the alaska that one and i can't even remember rallies and all the rest of it even
00:42:54.380going back to uh i want to say 2020 is probably when i first started you know kind of rubbing
00:42:59.460elbows at different rallies and stuff with you out there so i i certainly hope that i do get to
00:43:03.940bump into you from time to time again, man. You can't go out completely.
00:43:09.060Now, it can't go out completely, but it is kind of a step back. And I said this on the morning
00:43:13.280show. I want everyone watching this right now. You need to get your news of the day. Okay. Got
00:43:18.180to stay informed. You got to do what you got to do. But I say disconnect. You got to get back in
00:43:22.620the real world. Don't spend your time on X battling with some booger eater or some bot
00:43:28.060about policies, about the strainer Hormuz or anything like that, or Israel. Just don't waste0.94
00:43:33.640of time on it. I want people to really take their life back and prioritize their family
00:43:40.640and themselves. And that's a little bit of what I'm doing, Jack. I'm just stepping away
00:43:44.920from this whole world of television news and getting back into the real world and reconnecting
00:43:50.260with people that I have neglected the last six, seven years of being on this Trump campaign.
00:43:56.460But I enjoyed every bit of it. I enjoy working with colleagues like yourself. We've got a great
00:44:01.300company we've got great people here at the white house actually up and down pebble beach great
00:44:04.900obviously great people in the press room i've got nothing but praise for everybody who runs
00:44:10.260the comms team here uh with the trump administration president trump doing doing what
00:44:15.540he's doing and uh trying to you know fight and save america so i'm on board there and i will
00:44:21.060continue to keep an eye on everything but as far as the day-to-day basis of coming to the white
00:44:25.620lighthouse going to put my gloves in the ring as a mma fighter would do put the gloves in the ring
00:44:34.640no i i it's it's it's incredible to see man i mean you're definitely when i was coming up
00:44:39.560uh you were someone that i looked to to say hey that's that's a guy who does the job right so
00:44:45.460you know take take what you can learn from this guy take a look at him and say this is someone
00:44:50.580who has got it down on lock because i you know i came from the world of social media originally
00:44:55.460and I wasn't really doing the on-air stuff.
00:44:58.320It was just sort of a new world for me.
00:45:01.180And so I was looking for people that I thought did the job right.
00:46:12.960If you're standing on the truth, that's all that matters,
00:46:14.800and that's all that we've ever tried to do here at Real America's Voice.
00:46:17.680You may not agree with some of the stuff I say,
00:46:19.840the viewers but i try to break it down and try to be truthful and i try to be critical at times
00:46:25.980of the republican party which we got to i don't just fall like sheep and just and just you know
00:46:30.380take whatever they say we must hold people accountable jack and that's one thing that you
00:46:34.700do really well is you hold people accountable uh and you call out you call balls and strikes
00:46:40.840and that's what we try to do man at real america's voice i want to ask if you can
00:46:46.280And there is there is. And speaking of holding people accountable, you know, I do have to I do have to ask you about this rumor that's been going around the office that you've purchased plane tickets to Kiev and you're actually planning on going shoot suit shopping with Vladimir Zelensky.
00:47:00.360Is this true? Can you confirm these rumors that I cannot confirm or deny?
00:47:05.980but i will confirm yes that i picked up probably that i picked up i will confirm this that i picked
00:47:13.100up the only bottle of russian vodka that's in this country after 2022 because joe biden put a
00:47:21.100a block on any kind of import i remember this video i remember this because
00:47:26.540i have it i wish i had it with me i just dropped it off in my suitcase i have that here uh god
00:47:31.340bless jack basobic you're a national treasure thanks for all your hard work thanks for having