Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Republicans Win Redistricting War and the Fight for Transparency in the Tyler Robinson Case

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00:03:08.720 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. Today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're

00:03:15.740 folks, pop the cafe, crank up the kid rock because today the good guys just won the redistricting

00:03:24.820 war. The Republicans have won the redistricting war. The Virginia Supreme Court in a razor thin

00:03:31.520 4-3 decision just struck down that sneaky Democrat naked power grab. Remember that Virginia Democrat 0.73

00:03:41.260 Spanberger Obama amendment gone toast invalidated on procedural grounds because the Democrats

00:03:49.220 couldn't even follow their own rules while trying to ram this through for amending the

00:03:53.940 constitution this was not an innocent tweak this was Democrats trying to steal for maybe even more

00:04:00.660 house seats in Virginia by redrawing the maps mid-decade to turn a competitive 6-5 edge into

00:04:06.520 a ridiculous 10-1 or 9-2 blowout. Boom, gone. Barack Obama down in flames. Spanberger down

00:04:14.180 in flames. Republicans have held the line and our path to keeping the housed majority just got a

00:04:20.080 whole lot clearer. This victory didn't happen in a vacuum. It was built on momentum. Red states

00:04:25.940 successfully redistricted by and fought back, many of which did. Texas, under Governor Abbott,

00:04:32.100 redrew the maps last year. That was five more Republican leaning seats. Florida jumped in

00:04:36.940 special session. Governor DeSantis, new lines that couldn't at the GOP for additional seats.

00:04:42.080 You got other states, North Carolina, Missouri, Tennessee, also moving forward with adjustments

00:04:46.800 to protect and expand conservative strongholds. Now, let's get real about this. This didn't start

00:04:53.640 with us. Virginia Democrats egged on by Barack Obama himself lit the fuse. Barack Obama, the guy

00:05:02.420 who once preached against gerrymandering, right? Barack Obama. He jumped in with ads, with rallies,

00:05:08.700 pushing a blatant partisan map to quote unquote, we're fighting back. We're fighting back those,

00:05:14.680 those, uh, Margaret Republican agendas. Yeah. With his buddy, Mark Hamill calling for president

00:05:20.440 Trump to die. They wanted to override the bipartisan commission that Virginia voters

00:05:25.740 had approved, all to offset losses elsewhere. Democrats in blue strongholds have been playing

00:05:32.020 this game for years. But when Republicans started winning fair and square after the census,

00:05:38.280 suddenly it's an assault on democracy. Well, guess what? Actions have consequences. And your

00:05:45.540 aggressive push in purple, Virginia and other swing competitive states fired up the red states,

00:05:51.520 Texas and others under Trump's lead said game on. They redrew the maps, protect Republican seats,

00:05:57.780 pick up extras where they legally could. It's called tit for tat. You want to rig the game in

00:06:03.700 a battleground? Well, then don't cry when the other side reinforces their strongholds. That

00:06:08.720 is not about hypocrisy. That is about survival in a republic where both parties play by the same

00:06:16.720 rules. It's about applying the new rules to the Democrats as well. And let's not forget,

00:06:23.440 it was the Supreme Court that set the stage for this victory. Justice Sam Alito, and you saw the

00:06:28.480 recent book, we had Molly Hemingway on here about it. His majority in the Louisiana case blew a

00:06:34.640 powerful, powerful delivery against racial gerrymandering, the unconstitutional map drawing.

00:06:40.600 They struck down Louisiana's map as an illegal racial gerrymander. That set the stage that boom,

00:06:47.260 Virginia's map could get struck down too. And that put pressure on the Virginia courts. It all 0.99

00:06:52.340 had to happen in this order. Huge win for fair maps for the voters for Republican chances in 26. 0.91

00:06:59.860 The left overreached, and they got checked.

00:07:03.660 They got checked by we, the people, standing strong and fighting back.

00:07:09.080 But we're going to stay vigilant, patriots.

00:07:10.980 The war is not over, but we just want a major victory.

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00:08:51.420 will chamberlain on from the article three project will i'm calling this a a victory in

00:08:58.200 the redistricting war in terms of the the uh throwing out of the districts there in uh in

00:09:07.620 virginia but also the fact that republicans actually responded by using power for once

00:09:14.020 that's something you and i have been talking about for uh the better part of a decade at

00:09:18.700 almost over a decade at this point. And talk to us through what a resounding victory this was,

00:09:26.640 but also the fact that, guys, all you have to do is pick up the pen and actually do things.

00:09:34.360 That's right. It's a huge victory in Virginia. It actually makes the decision of the GOP not

00:09:40.640 to spend a huge amount of money fighting the redistricting battle make a lot more sense.

00:09:44.220 Maybe they were more confident and rightly confident that the referendum was illegal under the Virginia state constitution.

00:09:51.200 But it's really nice to see. I mean, if you look at the entirety of the redistricting battle, I mean, except with the exception of places like Indiana, that those recalcitrant legislators have now been punished.

00:10:03.060 In general, we're seeing Republican legislators all around the country be extremely aggressive about using the power they have and about using the recent Calais decision from the Supreme Court to go ahead and move aggressively to redistrict away a lot of these blue districts in the Deep South, which there's no equivalent to these districts in New England, for example, where there's just a complete lockdown by the Democrats.

00:10:27.960 So it's looking very good for the Republicans on redistricting. I mean, we should pick up something like 12 to 14 seats, I believe, total, which is, you know, in the context of a 435 seat house where most of the seats are pretty safe. That's an enormous change.

00:10:43.960 I mean, it's going to put Democrats really behind the eight ball. I mean, they might still win just a very tiny majority now, but just in general, they're going to be behind the eight ball really badly going forward for almost every House seat. And then that's not even accounting for the fact that when you have the census coming in 2030, that's going to shift even more seats into red states and away from blue states. Things are going to get really, really apocalyptic for the Democrats.

00:11:06.780 no this this is actually a huge huge pickup uh tyler boyer is up there i was just chatting with

00:11:14.440 him from turning point action talking about how you know this this really means that republicans

00:11:20.700 only need to win a few toss-ups and actually can hold on to the house which would be in a

00:11:26.100 midterm year like this uh kind of unprecedented this is something so 90 percent of the time we

00:11:31.300 The crack staff over here at Human Events Daily checked this, and I think only in 1998 and 2002, again, after the September 11th attacks, that was the only time that we saw this, where the incumbent party that held the White House was able to maintain the House.

00:11:52.100 So it really doesn't happen often, but because of these moves, Republicans could actually buck the trend.

00:11:58.900 Yeah, no, and it's a really good thing.

00:12:00.480 And I think Democrats have gotten away with a lot of shenanigans.

00:12:03.760 I think a really good way to understand what's happening is that despite having won a two point popular vote victory, which should have given when you think about it, the Republicans about a 10 to 12 seat majority in the House.

00:12:15.160 If that popular vote victory was translated into House seats, we only had like a one or two seat majority.

00:12:22.200 And that's because of the existing gerrymandering disparity against Republicans. Right. When you compare a place like Illinois to what had been like in the South. I mean, it's just it's been absolutely brutal for Republicans for a very long time.

00:12:36.940 So I think we're really going to see a course correction here.

00:12:40.740 And Democrats are suddenly I think this is actually the way ultimately to get to a kind of resolution of what is the most fiercely polarized moment in our politics for a long time.

00:12:51.780 It's so polarized because it's so close in a world where Democrats simply don't feel like they can win the House back with their current set of policies.

00:12:58.520 They may just have to moderate if they ever want to win again.

00:13:00.800 And that itself would be a massive victory.

00:13:03.200 No, I think it would. And it just needs to be said that, guys, this will what would your message be to the sort of the Republicans who are now unemployed in places like Indiana or the Republicans in Utah that were unwilling to go along with the redistricting?

00:13:22.420 And I would be remiss if I did not mention the fact of the Republicans in the state Senate of Nebraska, where in 2024, Charlie Kirk himself went in and said, hey, guys, why are you just handing a district over to the Democrats every year?

00:13:38.520 we called it the great Cornhusker swindle, where they were just handing an electoral vote away to

00:13:45.020 the Democrats. And then they were under certain, you know, election models that year, that vote

00:13:50.460 could have come, you know, in extreme importance. And yet they said, oh, no, you know, we don't do

00:13:57.640 things that way. That's not how we play. What is it with that form of Republican?

00:14:03.720 I think that form of Republican in the modern world is going to be find themselves those those Republicans are going to find themselves private citizens in short order. I think it's really straightforward in a world where Democrats wield their political power unbelievably aggressively against conservatives and have the ability to do incredibly damaging things at the federal level.

00:14:23.760 You as a Democrat, as a Republican officeholder, your first obligation is not to weaken the electoral power of the people who voted for you.

00:14:31.220 That's number one. And I think it's bigger than Trump. It's bigger than Baga.

00:14:35.980 It's fundamentally about what are your voters electing you to do?

00:14:39.900 Are they electing you to dilute their voting power? No, they're electing you to maximize their voting power.

00:14:45.280 And so, you know, you can't be fair to people who wouldn't be fair to you in return.

00:14:49.620 And there's no evidence anywhere in the country that Democrats would intentionally be fair to Republicans when it came to redistricting, ever.

00:14:56.800 They have a normative view that Republicans are evil and therefore disenfranchising them is good.

00:15:02.480 You shouldn't respond to that by trying to win their approval.

00:15:05.900 You should respond to that by taking the fight to them in turn.

00:15:09.480 Will, I believe you had a term at one point for those types of conservatives.

00:15:14.180 Do you recall that term?

00:15:15.380 I do.

00:15:15.920 I called them peacetime conservatives.

00:15:17.440 I think that's still very applicable.

00:15:19.240 The idea being that – hearkening back to The Godfather where Tom Hagen was described as a peacetime consigliere.

00:15:26.120 And you're not a wartime consigliere, Tom.

00:15:29.200 Things are about to get hairy.

00:15:30.240 Well, things are hairy in this country between Republicans and Democrats.

00:15:33.900 And those of you – the peacetime conservatives who would be inclined – or peacetime Republican officers who would be inclined to make deals with their counterparts and give them power that they're not entitled to and that there's no reason to give them, those people are going to find themselves sidelined, rightfully so.

00:15:50.040 Oh, exactly right.

00:15:51.380 Well, I wanted to originally have you on because so later today, I believe it's going to be about 5 p.m. Eastern.

00:15:59.240 There is going to be a big ruling set of rulings in the Tyler Robinson case is going to be delivered by WebEx where Judge Graff is going to come down on two pieces.

00:16:09.260 One being whether or not the preliminary hearing, which is currently set to begin in 10 days, whether or not that will be delayed because Tyler Robinson's lawyers have used a variety of, shall we say, creative reasons to call for a delay, and also on cameras in the courtroom.

00:16:27.880 What do you expect we're going to hear in just a couple hours' time in the Tyler Robinson rulings?

00:16:33.060 I expect that the prosecution is going to win across the board.

00:16:36.480 That would be my expectation here.

00:16:37.880 I don't think that the defense motions are particularly persuasive.

00:16:41.640 You know, the arguments that we need to continue a preliminary hearing, a preliminary hearing is just whether you determine whether there's been probable cause.

00:16:47.860 And intuitively, there's obviously probable cause in this case.

00:16:50.500 So the court is going to be reluctant to delay that.

00:16:53.820 And, you know, any arguments that would be prejudicial are just going to seem sort of frivolous.

00:16:57.540 On cameras, I suspect that the court is just going to want to ensure that there aren't conspiracy theories about this case and that, therefore, it's very important that justice be seen to be done and that people, the public, be able to see what these witnesses have to say about was one of the most public murders in American history.

00:17:19.140 And, yeah, so I want to get – we have a couple of minutes until the break, but I do want to dig into that a little bit more.

00:17:23.560 on the question of and this is a big ruling the question of the live streaming the cameras

00:17:29.200 this isn't going to be about and correct me if I'm wrong this isn't going to be about cameras

00:17:33.240 in the entire trial this is just going to be about the prelim is that right I'm not sure actually I

00:17:38.740 haven't read the specifics of that part of the motion so I don't know uh maybe you know better

00:17:42.380 it could well it could can it could I suppose um could potentially cover both but at the same time

00:17:50.720 Even if it is only the cameras in the prelim, I'm sure we can sort of get a sense of where the judge is at on this question, given how he rules today.

00:17:58.240 And I think that, you know, there's an interesting, oddly enough, I think the question of cameras in the preliminary hearing is closer than cameras in the trial because there's a reasonable argument to be made that given that evidence might be presented in the preliminary hearing, you want to minimize the extent to which people see it at this point in the trial because the jury hasn't been selected yet.

00:18:14.820 And so there's not that sort of curative instruction going on where the jury is knowing that they should not be accessing the Internet, blah, blah, blah, because we don't even know who the jurors are.

00:18:23.380 So that I actually, you know, off the top of my head intuitively, that's actually a much closer question.

00:18:30.480 No, I completely agree with you.

00:18:32.380 I think that I think that it does actually make sense that there could be a difference here.

00:18:39.060 But at the same time, I do also think that and I've just always said for the purposes of transparency, you know, this, of course, what the judge is going to be weighing, you know, public transparency versus bias jurors.

00:18:53.280 That's the ruling that we're going to get just a couple hours time.

00:18:56.400 Tyler Robinson set to return to at least virtually court today for the murder of Charlie Kirk.

00:19:03.640 Be right back.

00:19:04.180 all right folks we're back live human events daily real america's voice wrong will chamberlain from

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00:21:28.940 I want to get back here with Will Chamberlain for the Article 3 project.

00:21:31.780 So, Will, we're just a couple hours away from this ruling coming down in the Tyler Robinson case.

00:21:39.020 And there's an interesting motion that I saw regarding, and this is up, Andrea Burkhart, the great lawyer, had it up.

00:21:46.220 And she's been live streaming.

00:21:47.240 We've had her on the program here, and she's been doing just a wonderful job on this.

00:21:52.460 She was talking about how she does have the list of potential witnesses that will be called.

00:21:59.200 And keep in mind, everyone, this is about the preliminary hearing.

00:22:02.700 This isn't a trial.

00:22:03.920 There's no jury here.

00:22:05.400 This is just about really the—actually, Will, why don't you tell us?

00:22:09.560 Will, you're here.

00:22:10.160 Well, it's about establishing probable cause and justifying the decision of the prosecutor to bring charges.

00:22:17.240 And it's evaluated by a judge. It's not a trial by jury. It's not beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:22:22.380 The standard is probable cause, which is not a high standard to meet.

00:22:26.320 I think it's going to when this hearing happens, it's going to be met in spades.

00:22:29.680 This is, you know, so the question of delaying the hearing is really just delaying the trial.

00:22:34.600 And so it's it's where, you know, it's it's where the the government has the state has to come in and say, hey, you know, we're filing these charges and here's why.

00:22:45.200 Yeah. And here's and here's the evidence. And, you know, here's some of the evidence. We don't it's not even all the evidence. Here's some of the evidence that demonstrates that at a minimum, there's probable cause that this person committed this crime. And in this case, the evidence is overwhelming.

00:22:59.920 So. One thing I saw that was kind of interesting on the witness list, it lists a lot of, you know, it seems to be a lot of some local police that were at the UVU campus where Charlie was murdered, multiple state agents.

00:23:15.920 agents, it looks like SBI, that's the State Bureau of Investigation in Utah, but then also number

00:23:21.100 five, Lance Twiggs. And this is interesting. It looks like he's going to be doing a recorded

00:23:26.520 statement in lieu of testimony. And the fact that it was disclosed October 24th, there's actually

00:23:34.040 a typo, it says 2022-5, but let's say that was 2025. Does that sound like it's a recording of

00:23:40.940 an interview that was lance twiggs being the boyfriend of tyler robinson an interview that

00:23:46.080 was recorded with him in the wake of the initial investigation and you know so he won't be you

00:23:52.920 know called um personally to the stand and normally you would see that you wouldn't see

00:23:57.720 in a trial uh pre-recorded testimony most of the time you would see live uh live witness testimony

00:24:04.440 and again is that because this is the preliminary hearing i think so but you know this is i finally

00:24:09.720 started reading that motion about hearsay, and a lot of it had to do with a confrontation clause.

00:24:14.740 So suddenly that all makes sense. I didn't understand that that was what was going to

00:24:18.600 happen with Mr. Twiggs. But I think what the defense is trying to say is that the federal

00:24:22.560 confrontation clause, which entitles criminal defendants to have the ability to confront their

00:24:26.640 accusers, the idea being that even their argument is even in a preliminary hearing, we should be

00:24:32.060 entitled to confront our accusers and cross-examine them. So if Twiggs isn't going to show up in

00:24:36.660 person, then his video testimony should be excluded as hearsay. And that certainly at trial, this

00:24:42.360 would not be permissible, right? Certainly at trial, Twiggs would not be able to just record

00:24:47.280 his testimony and then send it in. He'd have to show up in court to testify against Robinson,

00:24:52.460 which I think everybody would agree is a sensible precaution, a way to ensure that, you know,

00:24:57.520 it's not a one-sided presentation that Robinson's attorneys are able to cross-examine him properly,

00:25:02.320 which i actually look forward to because it'd be really interesting to see uh twigs himself

00:25:07.620 cross-examined by robinson's lawyers and maybe twigs's culpability fully explored um but well

00:25:15.180 in the end i think on that i don't think it'll ultimately matter one way or the other where

00:25:19.420 their twigs is going to be able to testify at this hearing i mean the judge might conclude that

00:25:23.240 actually yeah he shouldn't be he shouldn't be able to testify via recorded video even though

00:25:27.660 it's just a preliminary hearing but i think that's one of the issues that will be determined

00:25:31.440 this afternoon is, you know, this specific question. Well, it seems to be because they

00:25:36.800 have this motion coming up now. And again, you know, to your point about the cross-examination

00:25:42.040 there, that's going to be very interesting because we've also seen in Robinson's defense

00:25:47.500 statements questions about his parents and whether or not they'll be called. It doesn't look like

00:25:52.660 they're being called at the preliminary hearing, but it does appear that the defense expects the

00:25:58.680 prosecution to call the parents at the trial. And of course, you know, all of this is just,

00:26:04.400 just very unprecedented. It is something that you do not typically see people this close to

00:26:10.800 a defendant coming up and testifying. Yeah. Well, it's rare for parents to turn in their

00:26:15.700 own children, but in this case they did so and credit to them. I think, you know, it's a real,

00:26:19.380 real credit to the parents of, you know, to, to understand the, to be pro-social in that respect

00:26:24.660 and understand that whatever their affinity towards their son,

00:26:30.480 they had to pick up the phone and make that call for my own kids.

00:26:32.720 Will, we are just about out of time.

00:26:34.280 We've got Libby Emmons right after you.

00:26:35.640 Where can people go to follow you?

00:26:37.460 At Will Chamberlain on X,

00:26:38.600 and you can follow what the Article 3 Project is doing at a3paction.com.

00:26:42.480 All right, folks, big hearing in the Tyler Robinson case

00:26:45.080 coming up in just a couple hours.

00:26:46.680 We're previewing that here at Human Events Daily.

00:26:49.160 Stay tuned.

00:26:49.980 Jack, where is Jack?

00:26:52.580 Where is Jack?

00:26:54.660 where is he jack i want to see you

00:26:57.600 great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always

00:27:05.060 talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting

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00:28:30.260 All right, we've got Libby Emmons on here, the editor-in-chief of the Post-Millennial and Human Events.

00:28:35.220 Libby, how are you?

00:28:36.460 I'm good, Jeff. Thanks.

00:28:38.800 Well, Libby, so I know that you and the team are primed for this motion in the Tyler Robinson case,

00:28:44.580 something that you've been covering extensively, and we've been covering together, of course,

00:28:48.840 at both sites. And also, of course, we got name-checked by Tyler Robinson's legal team

00:28:55.120 because of our open letter regarding cameras in the courtroom. Talk to us about why it's

00:29:02.680 important, specifically in this case, that we do get that ruling for, again, just the basic right

00:29:10.680 of live streaming, of cameras, of having access to evidence in the interest of public transparency.

00:29:17.600 Yeah, I think it's essential that we have cameras in the courtroom so that we can get the truth

00:29:21.680 as it unfolds in court before the judge. And so that people who are following this case, the public

00:29:28.100 can see what's really going on and can understand that. You have the defense who's really interested

00:29:34.180 in getting rid of cameras from the courtroom because they say that it could harm jury selection,

00:29:40.160 that it could bias jurors ahead of that time

00:29:42.780 when they are doing the selection.

00:29:44.560 But what they're really saying when they say that

00:29:46.700 is that they don't want truth to be out there.

00:29:49.180 They just want all the speculation and hearsay

00:29:51.700 that is out there now to be the only thing

00:29:54.480 that jurors hear.

00:29:55.920 They want jurors to be biased

00:29:57.340 against convicting Tyler Robinson.

00:30:00.420 And that is, of course,

00:30:01.380 something that we've seen across the internet.

00:30:03.900 We've seen lots of podcasters

00:30:05.420 and people coming out saying, you know,

00:30:08.040 that perhaps Robinson wasn't the guy or that there were all of these other conspiracies or

00:30:13.040 things like that. And that's the only thing that prospective jurors are going to hear if we don't

00:30:17.800 have cameras in the courtroom so that people can really see what's going on. The truth is the only

00:30:23.080 antidote for all of the madness that we see out there surrounding this case. And that's why it's

00:30:27.900 so important to have cameras in the courtroom for the public. And also, as you say, this is

00:30:32.300 definitely a First Amendment issue. The press has the right to cover this case. Charlie Kirk was

00:30:37.780 killed in public on live stream. And I think that it's only right and just that the trial of his

00:30:43.600 alleged killer should be on live stream as well. Well, Libby, it's it's it's also that and even if

00:30:51.480 you are someone who has questions, if you have skepticism, then surely you would want to see

00:30:57.660 the evidence to have your own ability to weigh it, have your own ability to have access to what's

00:31:04.840 going on. And I've said that from the start, that things like the ballistics report, things like

00:31:10.260 different medical reports and different things that came out from the actual crime itself,

00:31:16.900 that we do want these out in the public. I want Tyler Robinson to have a fair trial.

00:31:22.860 I think that everyone deserves that. And yes, even he deserves that. Now, I also believe just

00:31:29.620 having read the evidence myself that this is the guy and he should fry for it because that it,

00:31:36.020 that seems to be what it's stacked up against, but I'm willing to go through that same process

00:31:41.720 again. And Libby talk to us as well, by the way, because there is, there's even this question

00:31:48.320 that I wanted to throw your way that we may get, um, sort of a half, you know, kind of a half

00:31:55.940 measure where we get a camera in the courtroom, but if you notice the last camera in the last

00:32:00.260 few hearings, it doesn't show the defendant. It doesn't show Tyler Robinson. Kyle Rittenhouse,

00:32:04.880 who's in the news because he's Spider Kyle now, didn't have that luxury. He was on video every

00:32:14.480 single day. And also a question of whether or not we're going to be able to see the videos and other

00:32:19.980 evidence as it's entered in. So will that be shown on the live stream? Yes or no? I think

00:32:25.260 there's actually a lot of aspects to this. Yeah, I think so too. And we have seen circumstances

00:32:30.920 in the, you know, pre-trial hearings and whatnot where the judge has witnessed things on video and

00:32:37.780 those things have not been played on the live stream. You also had the ruling from Judge Graff

00:32:43.140 in the fall saying that Robinson could not be photographed or videoed while he was in shackles,

00:32:49.500 that the shackles could not be seen, which means that he cannot be filmed or photographed entering

00:32:54.320 or leaving court. And there's been a lot of kerfuffle about moments when the camera person

00:33:00.440 has panned over to him and accidentally caught something that, you know, perhaps they weren't

00:33:05.740 supposed to catch. And the defense has made a big stink about that. But yes, there have been

00:33:10.200 in these hearings so far, we've seen the camera pulled back and moved out of the way and their

00:33:16.360 location changed multiple times. So I do think that circumstances under which they are permitted

00:33:22.540 to film and what they're permitted to film will be part of this ruling. That's my guess. And I do

00:33:28.740 think that Graff, given what has gone on so far, will permit cameras in the courtroom. And I

00:33:34.280 certainly hope that he permits that for the entire trial. And by the way, you know, this question of

00:33:40.840 the delay in the hearing, that's also something that's coming up. You know, I've seen now, so we

00:33:45.420 just have Will Chamberlain on here. He says it's going to happen. It's going to go forward. We have

00:33:50.600 But Andrea Burkhardt, the great Andrea Burkhardt, she's come on the program.

00:33:54.260 She thinks it'll go forward.

00:33:55.280 But I've also got other lawyers that are messaging me and coming in as we talk, saying, oh, you know, I'm not sure.

00:34:02.100 You know, we could actually see a delay on a number of these things.

00:34:05.660 Do you have any sense on that?

00:34:07.580 Because, again, this isn't about the actual trial itself.

00:34:12.520 This is just about the presentation of charges and the probable cause, meaning the preliminary evidence that's been gathered.

00:34:20.600 Yeah, and I think that, you know, and this might just be a hopeful wish on my part, but I do think that Judge Graff is going to allow it to go forward.

00:34:30.200 The prosecutors made a really strong argument that a preliminary hearing is simply to establish if there's probable cause.

00:34:37.540 And they had listed the evidence that they plan to bring to show that there's probable cause.

00:34:42.060 Now, for the defense, they want to have this delay. But if there's no probable cause that Robinson is the guilty party, then why wouldn't they want to go ahead with the preliminary hearing, say that there is no probable cause and get their guy sprung as quickly as possible?

00:34:57.600 It seems that they know there's probable cause. The prosecutor knows that there's probable cause, and probably that probable cause should be shown so they can get this whole thing underway.

00:35:07.080 This has already been delayed. There's been a lot of delays from the defense.

00:35:11.060 We even saw an instance where Judge Graff scolded the defense for not what he said prioritizing the scheduling for this capital case, which takes precedence over a lot of other things.

00:35:21.960 Um, so we're going to have to see what happens, but I would think that he would allow this

00:35:26.600 to go forward.

00:35:27.720 He does seem like a man who's interested in expediency in this case.

00:35:33.780 Well, and, and, and not only that, you know, there's that question that, that really came

00:35:38.860 up of if Tyler Robinson's lawyers view him as innocent, if they view him as not guilty,

00:35:47.680 why is it that they are the ones who are pushing for delay knowing that he is incarcerated during

00:35:53.420 any delay that may occur? Yeah, that's such a huge point and it's such a really good question

00:35:59.380 and it's one that I'm sure the defense doesn't want to answer because I think their tactic

00:36:04.020 with the delays that they keep asking for is to have this case continue to fall out of the public

00:36:11.140 eye or to have there be a completely polluted group of potential jurors so that nobody can

00:36:17.860 come in unbiased in this case. I think that they want to do everything they can to try and get

00:36:23.440 their client off on some kind of legal technicality rather than actually go through with a case that

00:36:28.760 would show his guilt. Right. So if they think there's innocence, then please, you know, you'd

00:36:35.020 think they'd be demanding their day in court. You know, you got the wrong guy and we're going to

00:36:39.500 show you the evidence and this is the wrong person and here's why. The DNA doesn't match,

00:36:46.860 the fingerprints don't match, the gun doesn't match, something. So you'd think they would want

00:36:50.560 to encourage that so that they could overturn these charges and get their client out of jail.

00:36:57.160 But instead, they're doing the opposite. Libby Emmons, thank you for doing the yeoman's work

00:37:02.200 on this. Where can people go to follow all of the Postmillennial's coverage?

00:37:05.900 You can come check us out at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com.

00:37:11.660 Thank you so much. All right, folks, we've got a very special segment coming up next with our

00:37:18.140 good friend and someone that I have the utmost respect for, Brian Glenn, here on Real America's

00:37:26.620 Voice, an integral member of the team. Stay tuned. Be right back.

00:37:36.620 Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.

00:37:38.500 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.

00:37:44.440 And that is, I'll be honest.

00:37:49.120 Hi, America, it's Brian Glenn.

00:37:51.080 I am excited to announce that I'm coming here to Real America's Voice.

00:37:58.940 Let's go.

00:37:59.740 Brian Glenn.

00:38:00.280 Brian, go ahead.

00:38:00.940 Brian, go ahead.

00:38:01.740 Brian, go ahead.

00:38:02.440 Brian.

00:38:02.760 Brian, go ahead.

00:38:03.480 we'll go to oh look at some friends in the back brian you didn't show up early enough to get some

00:38:09.720 good real estate up here i'm very impressed that you asked that question because nobody knew that

00:38:13.380 we love you brian oh i love you too he's a good man brian brian glenn brian glenn brian welcome

00:38:20.480 why don't you wear a suit why don't you wear a suit you're the highest level

00:38:24.980 in this country's office and you refuse to wear a suit you own a suit maybe something like yours

00:38:31.020 Yes, yes. Maybe something better. I don't know.

00:38:34.200 I like that guy.

00:38:36.180 Now, that's called a question, and he's a great reporter, actually.

00:38:39.580 President Zelensky had a little bit of fun with me as well.

00:38:41.940 Yeah, you look good.

00:38:42.880 I said the same thing, President Zelensky.

00:38:45.160 In the same suit.

00:38:48.660 You see, I changed you.

00:38:50.380 But, you know.

00:38:52.660 Hello.

00:38:55.260 There you go.

00:38:56.080 Thank you.

00:38:56.400 You're popular.

00:38:56.880 Yeah, thank you very much.

00:38:58.000 You know what? Here, hold this microphone.

00:38:59.960 Oh, gosh.

00:39:01.400 Here he goes.

00:39:02.080 Oh, my.

00:39:02.720 Oh, my God.

00:39:05.420 Look at that.

00:39:06.880 I owe Brian Glenn five bucks.

00:39:09.380 I owe him five bucks.

00:39:10.920 I love it.

00:39:13.320 Is that a 5 a.m. shoot?

00:39:16.220 I need some more of those.

00:39:17.660 We're headed to Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

00:39:20.560 We finally made it to Switzerland.

00:39:22.260 Great state of Alaska here in Davos.

00:39:25.480 There's the wall. 0.66

00:39:26.400 There's Mexico that way. 0.92

00:39:27.420 at NetLife Stadium waiting for President Trump.

00:39:30.100 These two characters right here,

00:39:31.680 we're in the D.C. studio. Surprise!

00:39:34.520 Stand over here in the corner.

00:39:35.820 In the corner. This is the corner. It's a good corner.

00:39:37.780 Good afternoon, everybody. Good to see you all.

00:39:40.060 To be here covering it is a blessing

00:39:42.160 of a lifetime. Brian, hold on a second.

00:39:44.160 Trump was right about everything.

00:39:45.800 You got a forehead like this, it collects a lot of moisture

00:39:48.000 and a lot of sun. Right here in Arizona.

00:39:52.260 Keep up with your clerk. Love you.

00:39:53.760 Thank you. Keep watching. Thank you very much.

00:39:57.420 This is a time within our party.

00:40:12.900 We have so many people that are so fractured on one side of the party and the other side

00:40:17.920 of the party.

00:40:18.920 We're arguing about percentages and debt ceilings and all this stuff.

00:40:22.180 We're not our enemy.

00:40:24.380 The left, the radical left, the person who shot Charlie Kirk, that's our enemy.

00:40:29.420 This is a time, at least for me, to try to step back from the noise of the world and just really reflect on what you have, your health, your family, your friends, your opportunities, and that you live in the greatest country in the world.

00:40:43.800 I'm very thankful for Real America's Voice.

00:40:46.840 I'm thankful for this network and its commitment to not only supporting the White House and supporting President Trump,

00:40:52.900 but also supporting faith and freedom and family.

00:40:55.860 That's what this network is all about.

00:40:58.500 This past Sunday, sitting at home in Georgia, I decided that it's time to, and I'll use a MMA reference,

00:41:07.560 it's time to leave the gloves in the ring and walk away.

00:41:13.800 the people of real america's voice they are just not the owners of a conservative news outlet that

00:41:27.160 love this country they genuinely love their employees they are one of the best companies

00:41:32.580 they are the best company that i've ever worked for

00:41:43.800 we love you brian we've got of course the the great brian glenn with us brian man the the

00:41:57.220 the way that that thing ended i thought like this was like rest in peace brian glenn what's going on

00:42:02.740 yeah i don't know jack if people should send flowers uh to mourn this it sounds like an

00:42:09.740 obituary, put some dates on the end of it, and call it a day. No, it is a great tribute video

00:42:15.420 that Clayton and the folks at Real America's Voice put together to kind of highlight my time

00:42:21.960 here. And Jack, it's been a pure pleasure of being here at the White House and covering the

00:42:28.080 White House for Real America's Voice, and for you as well, for Human Events. It's just been an

00:42:32.860 honor, Jack, and I just want to say thank you to you and everyone else behind the camera.

00:42:36.680 yeah i remembered that you know i was so many times you know i i we we do this stuff and we

00:42:44.040 just move on to the next thing and i was sitting there i was like oh yeah i was out in davos with

00:42:48.440 you and and we did the alaska that one and i can't even remember rallies and all the rest of it even

00:42:54.380 going back to uh i want to say 2020 is probably when i first started you know kind of rubbing

00:42:59.460 elbows at different rallies and stuff with you out there so i i certainly hope that i do get to

00:43:03.940 bump into you from time to time again, man. You can't go out completely.

00:43:09.060 Now, it can't go out completely, but it is kind of a step back. And I said this on the morning

00:43:13.280 show. I want everyone watching this right now. You need to get your news of the day. Okay. Got

00:43:18.180 to stay informed. You got to do what you got to do. But I say disconnect. You got to get back in

00:43:22.620 the real world. Don't spend your time on X battling with some booger eater or some bot

00:43:28.060 about policies, about the strainer Hormuz or anything like that, or Israel. Just don't waste 0.94

00:43:33.640 of time on it. I want people to really take their life back and prioritize their family

00:43:40.640 and themselves. And that's a little bit of what I'm doing, Jack. I'm just stepping away

00:43:44.920 from this whole world of television news and getting back into the real world and reconnecting

00:43:50.260 with people that I have neglected the last six, seven years of being on this Trump campaign.

00:43:56.460 But I enjoyed every bit of it. I enjoy working with colleagues like yourself. We've got a great

00:44:01.300 company we've got great people here at the white house actually up and down pebble beach great

00:44:04.900 obviously great people in the press room i've got nothing but praise for everybody who runs

00:44:10.260 the comms team here uh with the trump administration president trump doing doing what

00:44:15.540 he's doing and uh trying to you know fight and save america so i'm on board there and i will

00:44:21.060 continue to keep an eye on everything but as far as the day-to-day basis of coming to the white

00:44:25.620 lighthouse going to put my gloves in the ring as a mma fighter would do put the gloves in the ring

00:44:34.640 no i i it's it's it's incredible to see man i mean you're definitely when i was coming up

00:44:39.560 uh you were someone that i looked to to say hey that's that's a guy who does the job right so

00:44:45.460 you know take take what you can learn from this guy take a look at him and say this is someone

00:44:50.580 who has got it down on lock because i you know i came from the world of social media originally

00:44:55.460 and I wasn't really doing the on-air stuff.

00:44:58.320 It was just sort of a new world for me.

00:45:01.180 And so I was looking for people that I thought did the job right.

00:45:05.160 And you were one of them.

00:45:05.960 You always were, man.

00:45:07.660 Well, I appreciate it.

00:45:09.340 You know, in my role into all of this, I kind of fell into it, to be honest with you.

00:45:13.520 I got fired from the biggest broadcast company that owns all the most TV stations in the country.

00:45:20.360 I got fired from them for really talking about COVID and talking about the mask mandates and the vaccine passports and all that stuff.

00:45:28.060 They didn't want to talk about anything like that.

00:45:30.420 And they knew I was a Trump supporter.

00:45:31.840 So when they whacked me, I got out of that.

00:45:34.720 And, well, the next thing you know, I end up on Right Side Broadcasting Network.

00:45:38.740 Very appreciative of those folks giving me a chance to really shine.

00:45:43.160 And then, of course, transitioning over to Real America's Voice, a much larger platform with shows and programmings.

00:45:49.840 and the opportunity to come here at the White House.

00:45:53.300 So for any young journalist out there that wants to get into the business,

00:45:58.860 as long as you do what Jack Posobiec does and what Charlie Kirk did

00:46:02.620 and what all the personalities on Real America's Voice,

00:46:05.220 as long as you tell the truth and you're very truthful and upfront with American people,

00:46:09.280 who cares about the critics?

00:46:11.780 Who cares?

00:46:12.960 If you're standing on the truth, that's all that matters,

00:46:14.800 and that's all that we've ever tried to do here at Real America's Voice.

00:46:17.680 You may not agree with some of the stuff I say,

00:46:19.840 the viewers but i try to break it down and try to be truthful and i try to be critical at times

00:46:25.980 of the republican party which we got to i don't just fall like sheep and just and just you know

00:46:30.380 take whatever they say we must hold people accountable jack and that's one thing that you

00:46:34.700 do really well is you hold people accountable uh and you call out you call balls and strikes

00:46:40.840 and that's what we try to do man at real america's voice i want to ask if you can

00:46:46.280 And there is there is. And speaking of holding people accountable, you know, I do have to I do have to ask you about this rumor that's been going around the office that you've purchased plane tickets to Kiev and you're actually planning on going shoot suit shopping with Vladimir Zelensky.

00:47:00.360 Is this true? Can you confirm these rumors that I cannot confirm or deny?

00:47:05.980 but i will confirm yes that i picked up probably that i picked up i will confirm this that i picked

00:47:13.100 up the only bottle of russian vodka that's in this country after 2022 because joe biden put a

00:47:21.100 a block on any kind of import i remember this video i remember this because

00:47:26.540 i have it i wish i had it with me i just dropped it off in my suitcase i have that here uh god

00:47:31.340 bless jack basobic you're a national treasure thanks for all your hard work thanks for having

00:47:35.020 and be on your show.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 08, 2026

Republicans Win Redistricting War and the Fight for Transparency in the Tyler Robinson Case

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