SCOTUS BETRAYS FREE SPEECH, LUNDEN ROBERTS TELLS ALL ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN
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On this episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posoe talks about the latest in the Jocelyn Nungarai murder case, the Supreme Court's ruling on social media censorship, and the Biden administration's victory in the Murthy v. Nixon case.
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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
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Bad night for progressives, and the squad is now down one member.
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CNN projects New York Congressman Jamal Bowman will not be re-elected, losing the Democratic primary to
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12-year-old Jocelyn Nungarai has a second suspect charge, and her murder appeared in court.
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Investigators say the 22-year-old admitted to a witness that he had done something bad and that he had to finish what he started.
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Prosecutors say his co-defendant, Franklin Pena, told investigators that Martinez-Rangel was on top of Jocelyn, allegedly tied her body up and threw it in the creek.
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He now has a $10 million bond on a capital murder charge.
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Immigration is, as a matter of law, the exclusive province of the federal government.
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If governors of states are concerned with what they have before them, then it is imperative and incumbent upon them to work with the federal government.
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It is not acceptable for one governor to take unilateral action and deliberately not communicate with the federal government on what is a federal government responsibility.
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I think it will help Steve Bannon in his appeal.
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We're working on filing an amicus brief in his appellate work there in his case because the January 6th committee was, we think, wrongfully constituted.
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We think that they may have very well covered up evidence and maybe even more nefarious activities.
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We disagree with how Speaker Pelosi put all that together.
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We think it violated House rules, and so we'll be expressing that to the court.
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The Supreme Court said the White House and federal agencies, such as the FBI, may continue to urge social media platforms to take down content the government use as misinformation.
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This is viewed as a victory for the Biden administration, a technical, if not an important one.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.
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Down the street from where I sit right now, the Supreme Court issued a huge ruling on the First Amendment regarding social media censorship, and specifically the social media censorship that we saw in COVID.
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Jay Bhattacharya is out there right now from, you know, Dr. Bhattacharya from Stanford saying,
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the Supreme Court majority in Murthy v. Missouri did not understand the nature of our case.
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We want the government to stop coercing social media companies to censor.
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We don't want to interfere with the right of social media to moderate content.
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And so you have this decision written by Amy Coney Barrett, who was a Trump appointee, where I have to say what it seems like they're doing is a classic, absolute classic punt.
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And this is something that wasn't something Amy Coney Barrett was known for.
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And if you look at the Roberts court decisions going all the way back to Obamacare and everything during that era, this is what he loves to do.
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If you want to read a great dissent, go read what Alito wrote, disagreeing with the majority decision.
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But Amy Coney Barrett, she said that the people who were censored didn't have direct information that the censorship came at the behest of government.
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That being said, we've got plenty of documents.
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And in the case, you could see very clearly that the government was calling for this form of censorship.
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And therefore, we are not going to rule one or the punts on the issue.
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And Alito comes back responding that, look, what you're doing here is obviously allowing a gross violation of the First Amendment to go on.
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We know the government is trying to censor people of their opinions on COVID the same way that they censored on the laptop story, the same way they censored on other things in the 2020 election.
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This isn't happening in some abstract legal debate.
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We're in an election right now, which is just a few months away.
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And that means the government, which currently has control of the administrative state that they currently do, and they're also running on the ballot, can censor you today using the same power that they did during COVID.
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That's the real problem here, and that's a huge problem with this.
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That being said, there's two more decisions that we're waiting out for.
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One on presidential immunity for President Trump.
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My point to me is it's a possibility that this could have been a tradeoff by the liberals and the swing voters that Amy Coney Barrett, Roberts, and Kavanaugh now have become to say, we are going to side with the liberals on social media, but perhaps side with the conservatives on immunity and maybe obstruction, although that case is a little bit harder to tell.
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Folks, stay tuned. We've got a very special guest in studio here, London Roberts, her new book, which I want and implore everyone to get a purchase of.
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She's going to join us right next after the segment.
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Talk about influences. These are influences, and they're friends of mine.
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All right, Jack Posobiec back here live, Washington, D.C.
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And as I promised just now, a very special guest on Human Events, London Roberts, the author of the new book, Out of Shadows, joins us here in studio.
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London, people have heard one version of your story.
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People have heard one version of your background, but now you have the ability to tell your side of the story.
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Well, for multiple reasons. One, I found my voice. I've been able to heal from a lot of things that have happened.
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I've been able to cope with a lot of things, and, you know, I want to do this.
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I want my daughter to always know that, you know, it's embrace your voice.
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And take accountability, you know, and I want her to know my story.
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I think that it would impact a lot of lives, especially my daughter's.
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So she knows about the book. She knows you're doing interviews. She knows all this.
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She knows I'm in meetings. She doesn't know, you know, exactly interviews and what they persist of or anything like that.
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But she's like, she knows I'm in meetings, and she knows that I'm writing a book.
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I don't know if she understands her role in all of this.
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Right. She doesn't, you know, like, she understands little tidbits.
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Like, she understands that, you know, the relationships that she has in her life, and this has a lot to do with it.
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She understands the importance of, you know, like, what her paternal side of the family, like, what they do and who they are.
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And she understands that importance in their roles as far as, like, you know, the first family.
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So she knows that her grandfather is the president.
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And you actually mentioned before that we're sitting here just blocks away from the house.
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Do you want to tell me what you just said off air?
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Yeah. So she, we're at the, at our, says, we tell her, ask the publicist where we're going, what's the location and stuff.
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And she says, it's actually close to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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So I'm telling, you know, my mom it's down from the White House.
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And she's like, oh, well, that's what we're going to do.
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And I was like, I don't know why I even said that.
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And I was like, oh, well, I was like, I think he's out of town.
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You know, he has a very busy job, which I've told her many times when she asks why they're not around.
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You know, they, that I told her that her grandfather has these, this very important job.
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And, you know, he's out there doing things for people.
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And she says, oh, so he's out there, you know, other people.
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And, and like in the book, I talk about so many times that that's brought up.
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She understands, but not quite, you know, she doesn't quite get it.
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Now, had you always decided to, uh, to be open like that and be transparent with her?
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Or is that, or is that something you came to eventually?
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I wanted to, I want, there's a lot of things that, you know, I've, I've thought about and
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And one of them, you know, is, is being resilient and, you know, never have to look back and,
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and say, you know, well, this is how it actually happened when that time I was telling you it
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Cause you know, parents do, you want to shield your child.
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And you don't want to, you don't want to break their heart.
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You don't want to be the one to break their heart.
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And by the way, boys, if you're watching, I've never done that.
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I've never, ever, you know, I might, I've never, no, no, no, no.
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Hey, listen, there's even one story in the, in the book.
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I talk about, um, you know, Navy's three things like you, her three things, three things.
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You can tell her if she does something, I'm like, Navy three things.
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And she's in trouble and she's like, respectful, kind of, so I'm like, I won't raise you any other
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So she'll tell me, you know, which one she didn't do or which one she did.
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But, um, you know, that, that's a trait that I want to instill in her.
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And so there's a story in the book one night, you know, she asks about, um, about Hunter
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and I, I tell, I talk about how, you know, questions are hard to answer as parents when
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And I think in my head, respectful, kind, and honest.
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Like I had to lie to her because it just broke my heart.
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I couldn't tell her the truth of, you know, what had happened that day.
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And so this, that idea is, I want to go back to that second.
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So, you know, you mentioned, so she knows where her grandfather is.
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She's, she's constantly asking me, and you detail this in the book, Out of Shadows.
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And there are times then where I'm guessing that she must see him on television, see him
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As, as you know, before we were talking, I don't know much about the news and what's
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Like, and, um, and so I, I try to avoid that for her sake.
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I don't want her to see things of, you know, her dad or someone like that, you know, because
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And so I try to shield her from that as much as I can, but there's also times, you know,
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I talk about that we're in like a nail salon and it's like, Hey, look, mom, there's my,
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And I'm like, okay, first of all, lower your voice.
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But, um, you know, yeah, no, she, she sees that and she sees my dad as like her pappy
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You know, he shows her this unconditional love and she knows him as her grandpa that
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she occasionally might see, you know, on a TV screen in passing.
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As she occasionally might see on a TV screen in passing.
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And that's, and that's gotta be so strange for her because obviously, as you say, she has
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this great relationship with your father, with your mother who are there physically.
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And at some point though, she's going to ask, I have to imagine when, you know, when am
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And, and even as you say right now, as we're just a few blocks away from the white house,
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I mean, I don't even know which way you guys drove, but you, it's kind of hard to get where
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we are right now without seeing the white house.
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It's just where we are totally doxing our location, by the way.
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But you know, we're, we're here in downtown DC, the white house is ubiquitous landmark.
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Do you, do you guys plan to take some time in DC and go see any of the sites or do you
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I don't know if we have much time, but you know, favorite places I lived here and absolutely
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And so, you know, I like, I like the fact that she loves it too.
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And I talk about in the book, how we, we stayed here for about a month.
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And, you know, I talk about the first time that I take her to the white house and she
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doesn't fully understand who's inside, but I do.
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And, you know, I talk about there's in this book, Out of the Shadows, it's taken a complete
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journey to come out of those shadows because there's so much that's, that's happened and
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so many emotions as a mother, as, you know, uh, just a person in general going through
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so much, but especially as a mother and seeing, you know, I say hell hath no fury, like a
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But hell hath no greater fury than a woman whose baby is being scorned.
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And that's, you know, and, and I've, I've seen some of your other interviews where you've
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brought this up and let's just, let's run through it.
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No, has there been any communication from the family other than what you've talked to
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Because she's got, she's got adult sisters who, uh, you know, have cell phones and I'm
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sure know how to use FaceTime and know how to do all this.
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So not even communication from her own sisters.
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No, I was advised by, advised by my attorney that, um, you know, most of the time the family
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sits back and doesn't, you know, take initiative until the father does that.
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And so, you know, it's, it's something that I don't know.
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I can't explain anyone else's behavior other than my own.
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And that, and, and that's, that really cuts against and, you know, obviously, I'm trying
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to not to make this political, but there is an image that the first family tries to present
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It's, it's something that they use and have used for a very long time.
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And to me, it seems like everything that you're describing flies completely in the face of
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And, and whatever the situation was, your daughter wasn't responsible for anything.
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And so wouldn't the family first option be to say, we're, we're going to try to find a
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And I would think, you know, no matter what, especially when a child is involved or anything,
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You know, there's, there's nothing more that the American people love, I would think,
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than the first family being humanized, like feeling relatable.
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Look, as, as, as, as a guy, you know, and I, I was, you know, chatting with, uh, with some
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of the producers about the situation and thinking about it and say, look, you know, I don't
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know what would happen if my boys ever, you know, came to me with a story like this, but
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And we're going to, we're going to do something and I, I don't know what it's going to look
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like and I don't know how it's going to figure out.
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And, you know, you got the white house involved in all this, but they go to Rehoboth and they
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have these huge family get togethers and they post the pictures and weddings and they're
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And so how hard would it be to just add one more person to this already large family picture?
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And, and to me, that is evidence of what you say.
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That's an evidence of the fact that this is scorn, that this is deliberate.
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Somebody made a decision at some point that we are not going to do this.
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It's your child that's, that's on the outskirts like that.
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And it's tough to watch these almost slaps in the face to, to your daughter.
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It's, it's hard, you know, and you always have that hope for some form of redemption and
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some form of embrace or some form of acknowledgement or, you know, any, anything that would, because
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a daughter yearns for a father's love and Navy, Navy does.
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Now I talk in the book about, you know, their zoom calls and how, as soon as they start
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that relationship, like, I'm just like out of the picture.
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And, you know, um, before T-ball, she wants to talk to her dad.
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But, um, you know, she, and it, but it was vice versa.
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You know, it started off as, as court ordered that he would, he would like FaceTime once
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But they started developing this relationship where there's multiple calls.
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There might be multiple calls a week, you know?
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So, I want to ask you more about the parenting side, but I'm also reminded that, and I want
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people to know about the book, because we're here to sell a book, right?
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And we have the same publisher, so we're working with Skyhorse.
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We're working with them as well, so a lot of connective tissue there.
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But one of the things that, so, obviously the book, it's your story, it's your daughter's
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You are taking control of the narrative, then resetting, in many ways, the narrative.
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But there is part of the narrative in the book, actually, where you talk about that time in
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D.C., and something that I know our audience is going to want to get this book for, and
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The fact that you actually were around, not on the business side, but you were actually
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around a lot of these individuals that come up for us when we look at the, we talk about
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the laptop and all these stories that have come out in the press.
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What was Rosemont Seneca like when you were actually there?
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You know, honestly, like the times I was there, because there was a lot of, you know, I was
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his assistant, and so I did a lot of, like, odds and ends that he needed done, running
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But, you know, I was also there, and they were moving things out, and so I didn't get
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the full, you know, Rosemont Seneca experience.
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I got the Hunter package with, as his executive assistant, doing certain things that he needed
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done, also communicating with his other assistant and, you know, conspiring together what needed
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But, yeah, I didn't get the full Rosemont Seneca package, but the Rosemont Seneca package
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I got was, you know, the partying and stuff like that with Hunter.
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Was that always, as you say, part of the package?
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I mean, you know, there was times that, you know, I worked with Katie Dodge and his other
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assistant and helped, you know, move things out of the office, get things and do things
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And it had that, you know, it had that other side, too.
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And I talk about that throughout the book because, you know, at one point when I become pregnant,
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I just leave and come back to Arkansas, you know, then you're just up and leave and, you
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Well, what people don't understand is, like, you know, at one point when I found out I was
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pregnant and him and I kind of disconnect, you know, we lose that over time and there's
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that abandonment, then, you know, I was dealing with a lot and dealing with, you know, someone,
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I was pregnant, I was alone, you know, it was obvious where he was going in the direction,
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And then the possibility that his father might run for president someday.
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Was there, you know, was there ever any discussion about perhaps not having the pregnancy?
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You know, he told me in the beginning when I told him about me being pregnant, he accepted
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it and told me that, you know, no matter what decision I decided, that he would be there
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for me physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.
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But, you know, there was one time where I was talking to a friend and I was like, you know,
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And you think, you know, you don't want to be the person to go through this, you know,
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And a lot of people, a lot of people might take that other route.
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And what people don't realize like about me is like behind the scenes, like I get my anxiety
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This talking to you in front of so many people is coming out of the shadows.
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And that's, that's the whole purpose of the book.
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So one day she can, you know, admire her mother for, for telling her story.
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And, you know, and our, and my story comes with a lot of forgiveness and that's something
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That resilience, you know, forgive people, even if they don't deserve it, even if they
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don't apologize, it's okay to forgive people, to not carry that burden around for yourself.
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Though I will say the Catholic side of me says, we do also ask for atonement.
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We do ask, also ask people that we, we pray that people would want to atone as well.
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And in, in order to, in order to seek their own forgiveness in a sense.
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So it's, it's, it, and that's where you get redemption, right?
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And so not, not on you, I'm talking about the people who have committed such things.
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And so, you know, actually it's funny, I got a comment in here just now where, cause
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you were talking about resilience and strength and having the ability to overcome your anxiety
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and obviously go through what I'm sure are going to be a lot of attacks.
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You detail this in the book about harassment and threats and all of the things that you
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But I got this comment here from a, from a guy still boneless.
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And it said, he says, it's, it's so hard on the parent that stays with the child because
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the parent that's left gets put on a pedestal in their eyes.
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And so the absentee parent, all that it's, you just have this positive side, this positive
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view, all their positive attributes are enhanced and all of the negatives, they don't exist.
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Whereas with you, she's, she's spending every day with you.
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So it's like, Oh, mom was mad at me because I drew on the wall or whatever.
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Not to say she did, but I'm talking about my kids, you know, they see all that, but we're,
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And then as you, as you mentioned, the grandfather, then they become these larger than life figures.
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Yeah. And, and that, that's very true. I mean, Navy Joan just absolutely adores anything that
00:25:27.160
has to do with her father. She just thinks it's, you know, great and wonderful. And, you know,
00:25:31.380
I also instill that in her, that love and that forgiveness that I talk about throughout the book
00:25:35.560
when there's times, of course, don't get me wrong. You know, there's a lot of anger in this
00:25:39.560
book and there's a lot of heartbreak. And there's a lot of times where I want to say the worst thing
00:25:42.840
possible about him, but I don't. And, you know, like when she, she'd never heard her father's
00:25:48.740
voice and, you know, mom, what does my dad sound like? What does his voice sound like? You know,
00:25:53.920
I play her, I could have done many things. I could have, you know, made fun of his accent. I could
00:25:59.440
have, I could have done anything to try to throw her off or deflect, but I didn't, you know, I sat down
00:26:06.220
with her and I pulled up the video of him at Bo's funeral where he gave the eulogy. And, you know,
00:26:13.320
he's sitting there and he's like, I love you. I love you. I love you. Cause that's a video of her
00:26:17.020
father showing love. So you've even been willing to get into some of those, like the, the, the family
00:26:22.160
tragedies as well. Well, I mean, she doesn't know that it was a eulogy for a funeral or anything like
00:26:27.340
that. She's just hearing, you know, her father's voice and kind of, and she hears the, I love you.
00:26:32.040
I love you. And, you know, she's talking back to the, to the phone. She's like, I love you. And
00:26:37.480
like kisses the iPhone. I'm just like, you know, there, there are times where I've not wanted to
00:26:42.920
be so respectful and so nice, but for my daughter, I'll do anything. And, you know, I want her to know
00:26:48.560
that she comes from a place of love and she, you know, she comes from people who are capable of
00:26:53.280
love. I want her to always know that. So just a few minutes left here with you, but let me, let me ask
00:26:58.620
you this. If you had the opportunity to send a message or even just sit down, sit down with,
00:27:04.760
um, with Navy Jones grandfather or grandmother with, with Jill, what, what would you, what would
00:27:12.880
you ask them? What would you, what would your message to them be?
00:27:17.520
Yeah. Why? Yeah. I've said that, I've said that so many times. It's just why, why, why exclude a
00:27:23.860
little girl that, that is, you know, your, your blood, your own blood? Why exclude your, your child
00:27:29.640
or your grandchild? Because that, it, it doesn't make sense to me. I don't think there's, you know,
00:27:34.200
any way to really defend it, but that's something that she's going to, you know, while, and that's
00:27:40.500
tough. That's a tough question. And I don't think it's on my shoulders to answer because I think she's
00:27:45.220
deserving of the world. I think she's great. And, you know, I, I love her more than anything in this
00:27:50.680
world and she's going to want to know why didn't they. And so that, that would be my question.
00:27:57.220
I think there's, you know, I, I, I talk about hope throughout the book. I continuously,
00:28:02.000
situation after situation of being let down, have this hope for redemption. And it's kind of like
00:28:07.660
you said, you know, forgiveness comes with atonement. Like it's, it is, it should, I get that.
00:28:13.060
I get that as well, but you always have that hope for some form of redemption.
00:28:19.040
I know. I agree. I mean, forgiveness is a gift. It's a gift for us. It's a gift for them,
00:28:22.800
but it's also, there's a process that, that when you tie it to this, and we're getting,
00:28:28.760
we're getting very theological now, but you know, it's, it's tied to that and it's emotional too.
00:28:33.540
It's tied to that process of, of realizing that I'm going to now make steps in my life to no longer
00:28:41.200
engage in those things. It doesn't mean I'm going to be perfect, right? But I'm going to take active
00:28:46.680
steps to, in this case, to try to include, uh, my granddaughter or our granddaughter in,
00:28:54.720
maybe it's a family event. Maybe it's a family, doesn't need to be public. Doesn't need to be
00:28:58.080
something that's all, you know, plastered over television and have me tweeting about it and
00:29:02.120
everything, but something not for public consumption of media or anything, but for your own granddaughter.
00:29:09.120
And it's, it's as simple as that. And I, I congratulate you so much. This, this sounds
00:29:13.540
like this easy for you. It's taken a lot of time. And there, there were chapters that my coauthors
00:29:18.700
had to help me through because it was so hard to write. And there are still stories that, you know,
00:29:23.060
sitting in front of you, I could talk about and just get so emotional because they are emotional.
00:29:26.620
They were hard to write and they're even harder to talk about. Right. But, um, you know,
00:29:30.940
I want my daughter to know that her mother stands 10 toes down at all times. And, you know,
00:29:36.240
I'm embracing that and coming out of the shadows with my voice. And I want, I want her to have
00:29:40.660
that train. I want her to admire that someday, the strength that it took to come out of the
00:29:45.360
shadows and, and be this person. I want her to, I want her to have that resilience. And I want her
00:29:50.020
to admire me someday for doing this. This is for her. I'll just say that there's a lot of choices
00:29:56.120
you could have made. And there's a lot of ways that you could have played this situation,
00:30:00.160
but the way that you've dealt it is probably the most admirable way I could think of possible
00:30:05.080
in going public, having that courage, being able to be respectful, but at the same time,
00:30:11.240
not giving up and holding the line for yourself and your daughter. Right. London Roberts,
00:30:17.320
God bless you. And God bless your family. Thank you.
00:30:30.080
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my Patriot supply.com. Look, folks, uh, we've got our, our next guest up coming here. Caroline
00:32:03.580
Levitt, the press secretary for the Trump campaign. Now you may have heard that she was on CNN a little
00:32:10.440
bit this week. We've got a clip. Let's play it right now. It's to, it takes someone five minutes
00:32:15.440
to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump to see that Jake Tapper has consistently.
00:32:19.000
I'm going to stop this interview. If you're going to keep attacking my colleagues,
00:32:21.220
Adolf Hilter, ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview. If you continue to attack my colleagues,
00:32:26.460
I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for. Yes. If you are here
00:32:30.740
to speak on his behalf, I'm willing to have this conversation. I am stating facts that your
00:32:36.420
colleagues have stated in the past. Now, I'm sorry, guys, we're going to come back out to the panel.
00:32:40.100
Caroline, thank you very much for your time. You are welcome to come back at any point. She is
00:32:44.320
welcome to come back and speak about Donald Trump. And Donald Trump will have equal time
00:32:49.300
to Joe Biden when they both join us now at next early, later this week in Atlanta for this debate.
00:32:57.660
So tomorrow night is debate night here in these United States. And CNN isn't just going to be
00:33:05.240
someone who's covering debates. That's the very same CNN who, oh, by the way, is going to be
00:33:11.080
running the debate. And the question I think on everyone's mind is, will those debates be held to
00:33:17.160
the same standard that the CNN morning show just was, where if you bring up some of the actual things
00:33:24.280
that Jake Tapper, who is going to be one of the hosts on the show, one of the moderators of the
00:33:29.900
debate, has said on CNN, some of these absolutely horrifically biased things that he said about
00:33:37.860
President Trump, comparing him to Adolf Hitler on numerous occasions, if you bring that up,
00:33:43.480
if you bring that up, that suddenly your mic gets cut off, that line of questioning gets cut off.
00:33:49.200
Look, and we remember, by the way, that Chris Wallace was cut off four years ago in his debate
00:33:55.920
when, or excuse me, Chris DeBoss cut off President Trump four years ago when President Trump brought up
00:34:00.800
what Hunter Biden. Well, we just had Hunter Biden's daughter here in studio, London Roberts.
00:34:13.680
And there's some questions I think she has. No, I don't think that President Trump should bring that
00:34:18.080
up in any way. But I would say, certainly myself, that that family has a lot to answer for. And there's
00:34:24.740
a little girl who, what can I say? I didn't know that that was going to be going on today,
00:34:30.960
that we obviously we knew we had the guest scheduled. But to hear that, mommy, are we going
00:34:37.460
to see grandpa today? There's the White House just a block or two away. And we are just a block or two
00:34:43.400
away from the White House. Are we going to see grandpa today? Oh, grandpa's busy. We can't see
00:34:50.180
grandpa today. He's he's busy. Oh, well, we'll see him later. Right. Then one day I'll see me.
00:34:56.920
I just, you know, as a father, and anyone who's a parent out there have no idea, no idea how you
00:35:03.300
answer that question. Do we have Caroline? Caroline, are you there? Yes, I'm here. Hey,
00:35:08.080
Jack, great to see you. Okay, producers, I want you to cut her mic immediately, throw her off the show.
00:35:14.200
Look, I mean, this is ridiculous. Allow you to speak when we've invited you on the show.
00:35:18.120
Who would do such a thing? Unbelievably crazy way to start the debate week. And all I was trying to
00:35:27.000
do, Jack, was repeat statements that Jake Tapper himself has made on the air lies about President
00:35:33.440
Trump, saying that President Trump's presidency was a long national nightmare, comparing President
00:35:38.740
Trump to Hitler, which is disgusting. Jake Tapper's done that many times on the air. But when I try to
00:35:43.560
bring that up on the air, they can be off the show. And by doing so, they did two things. They
00:35:48.860
proved our campaign's point that President Trump is knowingly walking into a three on one knife fight
00:35:54.700
tomorrow night. But they also exposed the truth about Jake Tapper to the entire world. And now
00:36:00.960
everyone knows just how anti Trump he has been over the past eight years.
00:36:04.940
Well, and so give us a little bit of a preview, then as much as you can only reveal all the strategy
00:36:12.080
here. But certainly, it feels like if that's how they're setting the frame, do you think that there
00:36:17.940
are going to be where things we know the mic cutting has already been something that they put out as a
00:36:23.280
stipulation? What is the plan to respond when that happens?
00:36:27.080
Well, we hope that CNN will not do what they did to me on Monday. We hope that they will try to prove
00:36:34.160
themselves as the most trusted name in news and give a truly fair shake to both President Trump and Joe
00:36:40.060
Biden. Ask good, tough questions of both of the candidates. They should ask Joe Biden why he lied about
00:36:46.820
the Hunter Biden laptop scandal on their network four years ago on the debate stage. No matter what, President
00:36:53.960
Trump is going to be ready to talk about the issues that matter to voters across this country,
00:36:58.540
our wide open border invasion, the inflation that's robbing hardworking families. He's prepared for this
00:37:04.300
debate. He engages in hostile media interviews with the press where he's cut off all the time.
00:37:09.420
He gives hours long speeches, oftentimes not even referring to his teleprompter. And Joe Biden has
00:37:15.320
been spending a week away at Camp David hiding in the woods. So hopefully he's prepared as well.
00:37:19.840
My favorite theory on that is from my good friend Brickstoot. And his theory is that he's working
00:37:26.660
on changing his sleep schedule. So he's waking up later and later in the day. Eventually, it'll feel
00:37:33.400
like 9 p.m. or 8 p.m. is sort of the middle of the day for him. But Caroline, that being said,
00:37:38.620
what's the campaign's main theme that they'd like to draw coming out of the debate? Someone who works in
00:37:44.760
media, of course, on the media side, you want to know what the narrative is. So what is the theme that
00:37:49.480
you think will really be highlighted here? Well, I think that our goal, of course, is to
00:37:55.120
highlight President Trump's strength with Joe Biden's weakness and to contrast President Trump's
00:38:01.920
record of success with Joe Biden's record of abysmal failures. And as long as President Trump
00:38:07.780
is given adequate time to speak and his microphone is not cut off and good questions are asked of both
00:38:12.840
candidates, he will absolutely come away having done that. Well, look, I mean, that's exactly what it
00:38:19.440
is. And to voters out there, I think it's really Biden who's got the harder argument to make to
00:38:25.980
say things are good when we know poll after poll or people just can go anecdotally to any gas station
00:38:31.960
or any grocery store and ask people, how do you feel about your purchase today? Do you think things
00:38:37.980
are better or worse? And so what do you expect Biden's argument to even be when that's brought up?
00:38:44.340
Well, Joe Biden's campaign has now burnt through more than $100 million running advertisements,
00:38:50.740
shamefully saying that President Trump is a threat to democracy, which is just an utter lie. Of course,
00:38:56.480
it's a fallacy that they've been trying to push. And it's a message that is not resonating because the
00:39:01.580
only return on that $100 million investment on that message has been Joe Biden's decline in the polls.
00:39:07.020
And actually, a recent Washington Post poll found that in the key battleground states,
00:39:11.440
voters trust President Trump to secure democracy more than they trust Joe Biden. And they should,
00:39:17.260
because look at what he did in his first term. President Trump created historic, unprecedented
00:39:21.620
peace around this world. He was the first president not to enter the United States into any new wars.
00:39:27.560
We had a booming economy under President Trump's leadership. We had a secure border. And now we
00:39:32.520
have Joe Biden, who has destroyed all of those accomplishments of the Trump administration. And Joe Biden
00:39:37.500
is the true threat to democracy. Just yesterday, there was a report that showed that there's more
00:39:43.020
than 50 ISIS-linked terrorists that are currently roaming around our country. And the Department of
00:39:48.200
Homeland Security has no idea where they are. They came through Joe Biden's open border. What is a
00:39:54.020
greater threat to democracy than that, having terrorists openly coming into your homeland? What's a
00:39:59.100
greater threat to democracy than being on the brink of World War III? Just last week,
00:40:03.400
China and North Korea, or I'm sorry, Russia and North Korea met to create a new pact and alliance
00:40:08.820
together. Because Joe Biden's weakness is ripping America off. And it's putting us in a very dangerous
00:40:14.440
predicament on the world stage. And so that's why their message is failing, because Americans know
00:40:19.940
that their lives were better under President Trump's leadership. Our nation was more safe and more
00:40:25.160
secure because of his policies. And that's the opposite of what we see today.
00:40:29.940
Absolutely. Caroline Levitt, the National Press Secretary for the Trump campaign. Good luck to
00:40:35.840
you guys tomorrow night. I know you're gonna be very busy. Thanks, Jack. Take care. Talk to you soon.
00:40:44.360
Buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office. I'm trying to listen to the new
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human events with Jack Posobiec. All right, Jack Posobiec back live here, Human Events Daily. Now,
00:40:55.580
look, folks, we're covering a lot of ground today. We know we have the debate tomorrow. We just
00:40:59.200
heard from London Roberts. But also, of course, that huge decision.
00:41:04.180
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00:41:11.420
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guest, Andrew Ritta, because we need to talk more about this Supreme Court decision. He is the CEO
00:42:13.760
of Liberation Technology Service, CIS LiberationTech.com, and a former member of the Trump White
00:42:19.840
House. Andrew, thank you for joining the show. Hey, Jack. Thanks for having me. I've got to get
00:42:23.920
your response to the Supreme Court decision. This thing is hot, and I got to say I'm hot about it.
00:42:28.340
Yeah, I think that it's a huge win for the Bidens, the Biden administration, the Biden campaign,
00:42:33.300
and a huge loss for the American Constitution. Unfortunately, you know, this could be something
00:42:39.860
in 18 months where we are looking back and saying, if only the courts would have taken action.
00:42:44.560
Well, and this is a huge point, right? Because, and I said in the earlier part of the show, that
00:42:51.880
when they declare someone's tweets to be Russian disinformation and say, oh, well, you've got to
00:43:00.540
censor that because of this. Now, Elon Musk, this is something that I've had the opportunity to
00:43:04.660
actually ask him about directly in a one-on-one where I said, you know, Elon, if the FBI comes to you
00:43:13.300
and says, you need to censor a certain story or a certain topic because it is quote-unquote
00:43:20.200
Russian disinformation, and it is, in fact, completely lawful speech, would you do that?
00:43:25.780
He said no. And then I asked him again, I said, Elon, just because you say no, that's good enough,
00:43:31.460
but what if they sue you? What if they threaten to do more? And Elon's immediate response to me,
00:43:36.280
without hesitation, was I would be willing to go to jail rather than take down lawful speech.
00:43:42.980
He said, okay, you know, and as an interviewer, you know, you're not going to get a better answer
00:43:47.220
out of a guy. He said, all right, I'll take that. But that being said, does Mark Zuckerberg believe
00:43:51.940
that? Does TikTok believe that? Do all of these other entities believe that? I don't know. So what
00:43:58.240
can people do to try to combat this and get around it? What can people do other than the Supreme Court
00:44:05.740
here? Because it seems like, and I've got a comment here from Winnie9354, Amy Coney Barrett did a
00:44:10.960
bait and switch. She was raised a rhino and she's making her daddy proud. Wow. People very,
00:44:15.940
very upset. Yeah, I think that it's a severe travesty. And really, the answer is go to the
00:44:22.760
alternative platform. Stop putting money, time and energy into these companies that are not only
00:44:29.560
surrendering information. Oftentimes, they are proactively handing over information. It's just
00:44:35.340
like what we saw out of the Twitter files that Musk had released. But even more concerning is
00:44:40.100
they don't even really have to say that it's Russian disinformation. The DHS has a new classification
00:44:46.040
called malinformation, which essentially means it just goes against the Biden administration's
00:44:51.800
official position or narrative. So really, you can find yourself deplatformed, canceled, put into
00:44:58.880
Twitter or excuse me, Facebook timeout, just because you have an alternate vision and narrative
00:45:06.720
than what the government is pushing forward. And that's what we saw in COVID-19. You know,
00:45:12.660
all the election information, Hunter Biden laptop story. And now the Biden administration has a clean
00:45:18.380
slate to just go and push these companies to take further and further action against the American
00:45:24.100
people and against free speech. Now, that said, do you think do you think potentially that that there
00:45:29.980
could be a legislative fix to this? Obviously, that was something that we talked about a lot during the
00:45:34.400
Trump administration, worked very hard. President Trump came out with a few, you know, kind of executive
00:45:39.840
orders, but nothing really concrete on it. But it seems to me that there could be a legislative way,
00:45:45.280
at least to put pressure here. Yeah, so really, what you're talking about is Section 230.
00:45:50.660
And that has been around for decades at this point. It's incredibly outdated. It does not represent
00:45:57.560
current times and current technologies. And so, you know, these companies are given protection because
00:46:03.640
they're considered a platform where information can be shared, it can be decided upon the individual
00:46:10.200
consumer if it's real or if it's not. But as they move into what's called a publisher, where they're controlling
00:46:16.440
what information is on their platform, they're no longer protected. And so I think we
00:46:20.500
really need to look at revising this and better defining a lot of these things because these
00:46:26.520
companies are protected under 230, even though they're completely violating 230 in many instances.
00:46:32.560
Oh, and that's and that's precisely it, because we have this this network body that's been there,
00:46:37.980
I think 230, the locations in 96, when the internet was still in its infancy, AOL was still sending CDs
00:46:45.500
out, you know, with with magazine subscriptions. And I'm like, my, yeah, my kids come up, they say,
00:46:51.780
Daddy, what's a CD? And then even beyond that, it's like, Daddy, what's a magazine? Andrew, tell people,
00:46:57.440
where can they go to follow you to get access to everything that you're doing? And to get on board?
00:47:03.520
Yeah, so you can go to liberation tech, liberation tek.com. You can find all of our alternative
00:47:09.360
platforms and services. You can also follow us on all major social media platforms, liberation tech.
00:47:16.240
All right, Andrew, thanks so much for being on. Look, folks, I understand. People are very
00:47:20.640
decision and you should be any Amy Coney Barrett. By the way, if you can go look all the way back
00:47:27.680
when Amy Coney Barrett was being was being submitted for her nomination, that one website on the
00:47:36.640
conservative side dared run a piece saying that she might do something like this, that she might be
00:47:43.360
someone who did not stand up for many things in the conservative platform that we were looking for a
00:47:51.240
redress of our grievances from the Supreme Court. And by the way, not in a political sense, but in a
00:47:58.860
legal sense, uphold the First Amendment, uphold the Second Amendment. That is your job, Amy.
00:48:05.840
That's your job. Do your job. And it was humanevents.com that put up that article. And we took a lot of
00:48:12.700
flack for it at the time. John Zmirek was the author. But guess what, folks? Go and read. I'm
00:48:17.100
going to post that article again right now. Do your job, Amy. Do your job. Ladies and gentlemen,
00:48:22.820
as always, you have my permission to lay short.
00:48:24.620
So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.
00:48:29.820
So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.