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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.380 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:45.980 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.

00:00:49.000 Christ is king.

00:00:50.420 Bad night for progressives, and the squad is now down one member.

00:00:53.900 CNN projects New York Congressman Jamal Bowman will not be re-elected, losing the Democratic primary to

00:00:59.140 George Latimer.

00:01:00.560 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungarai has a second suspect charge, and her murder appeared in court.

00:01:05.100 Suspect, Johan Jose Martinez-Rangel, appear.

00:01:08.900 Investigators say the 22-year-old admitted to a witness that he had done something bad and that he had to finish what he started.

00:01:15.840 Prosecutors say his co-defendant, Franklin Pena, told investigators that Martinez-Rangel was on top of Jocelyn, allegedly tied her body up and threw it in the creek.

00:01:26.660 He now has a $10 million bond on a capital murder charge.

00:01:30.300 Immigration is, as a matter of law, the exclusive province of the federal government.

00:01:36.040 If governors of states are concerned with what they have before them, then it is imperative and incumbent upon them to work with the federal government.

00:01:47.600 It is not acceptable for one governor to take unilateral action and deliberately not communicate with the federal government on what is a federal government responsibility.

00:01:59.000 I think it will help Steve Bannon in his appeal.

00:02:01.980 We're working on filing an amicus brief in his appellate work there in his case because the January 6th committee was, we think, wrongfully constituted.

00:02:12.300 We think the work was tainted.

00:02:14.100 We think that they may have very well covered up evidence and maybe even more nefarious activities.

00:02:19.680 We've been investigating the committee itself.

00:02:22.140 We disagree with how Speaker Pelosi put all that together.

00:02:25.220 We think it violated House rules, and so we'll be expressing that to the court.

00:02:29.140 The Supreme Court said the White House and federal agencies, such as the FBI, may continue to urge social media platforms to take down content the government use as misinformation.

00:02:38.860 This is viewed as a victory for the Biden administration, a technical, if not an important one.

00:02:45.180 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.

00:02:50.640 Today is June 26th, 2024, and no one.

00:02:54.560 Down the street from where I sit right now, the Supreme Court issued a huge ruling on the First Amendment regarding social media censorship, and specifically the social media censorship that we saw in COVID.

00:03:08.500 Jay Bhattacharya is out there right now from, you know, Dr. Bhattacharya from Stanford saying,

00:03:15.960 the Supreme Court majority in Murthy v. Missouri did not understand the nature of our case.

00:03:21.180 We want the government to stop coercing social media companies to censor.

00:03:26.920 We don't want to interfere with the right of social media to moderate content.

00:03:32.000 That's what the government is doing.

00:03:34.080 And so you have this decision written by Amy Coney Barrett, who was a Trump appointee, where I have to say what it seems like they're doing is a classic, absolute classic punt.

00:03:45.520 And this is something that wasn't something Amy Coney Barrett was known for.

00:03:50.340 But you know who is known for it?

00:03:51.800 John Roberts.

00:03:52.740 And if you look at the Roberts court decisions going all the way back to Obamacare and everything during that era, this is what he loves to do.

00:03:59.160 He loves to punt on the issue.

00:04:01.320 If you want to read a great dissent, go read what Alito wrote, disagreeing with the majority decision.

00:04:06.840 But Amy Coney Barrett, she said that the people who were censored didn't have direct information that the censorship came at the behest of government.

00:04:17.800 That being said, we've got plenty of documents.

00:04:19.940 We've got plenty of investigations.

00:04:21.460 We've got text messages.

00:04:22.720 We've got emails.

00:04:23.420 We've got all sorts.

00:04:24.320 And in the case, you could see very clearly that the government was calling for this form of censorship.

00:04:30.240 They said, well, you didn't prove your case.

00:04:33.140 And therefore, we are not going to rule one or the punts on the issue.

00:04:38.580 And Alito comes back responding that, look, what you're doing here is obviously allowing a gross violation of the First Amendment to go on.

00:04:48.920 We know the government is trying to censor people of their opinions on COVID the same way that they censored on the laptop story, the same way they censored on other things in the 2020 election.

00:05:01.420 And by the way, guess what?

00:05:02.900 This isn't happening in some vacuum.

00:05:04.820 This isn't happening in some abstract legal debate.

00:05:09.180 We're in an election right now, which is just a few months away.

00:05:13.220 And that means the government, which currently has control of the administrative state that they currently do, and they're also running on the ballot, can censor you today using the same power that they did during COVID.

00:05:26.740 That's the real problem here, and that's a huge problem with this.

00:05:30.880 That being said, there's two more decisions that we're waiting out for.

00:05:33.880 We might have to wait until Friday.

00:05:34.940 One on presidential immunity for President Trump.

00:05:37.120 One on obstruction for the J6ers. 1.00

00:05:39.280 My point to me is it's a possibility that this could have been a tradeoff by the liberals and the swing voters that Amy Coney Barrett, Roberts, and Kavanaugh now have become to say, we are going to side with the liberals on social media, but perhaps side with the conservatives on immunity and maybe obstruction, although that case is a little bit harder to tell.

00:06:00.880 Folks, stay tuned. We've got a very special guest in studio here, London Roberts, her new book, which I want and implore everyone to get a purchase of.

00:06:11.320 She's going to join us right next after the segment.

00:06:13.640 Stay tuned.

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00:06:52.180 All right, Jack Posobiec back here live, Washington, D.C.

00:06:56.100 And as I promised just now, a very special guest on Human Events, London Roberts, the author of the new book, Out of Shadows, joins us here in studio.

00:07:06.160 London, people have heard one version of your story.

00:07:10.800 People have heard one version of your background, but now you have the ability to tell your side of the story.

00:07:18.360 Why did you choose to tell it now?

00:07:20.240 Well, for multiple reasons. One, I found my voice. I've been able to heal from a lot of things that have happened.

00:07:26.140 I've been able to cope with a lot of things, and, you know, I want to do this.

00:07:30.460 I want my daughter to always know that, you know, it's embrace your voice.

00:07:35.760 Embrace your story.

00:07:37.620 And take accountability, you know, and I want her to know my story.

00:07:42.040 I think that it would impact a lot of lives, especially my daughter's.

00:07:45.880 So she knows about the book. She knows you're doing interviews. She knows all this.

00:07:49.220 She knows I'm in meetings. She doesn't know, you know, exactly interviews and what they persist of or anything like that.

00:07:54.760 But she's like, she knows I'm in meetings, and she knows that I'm writing a book.

00:07:59.260 And so?

00:07:59.880 And she knows that it's for her.

00:08:01.120 Does she? So the book is for her.

00:08:03.780 Does she understand her role in all of this?

00:08:08.280 What's her level of understanding?

00:08:09.740 I don't know if she understands her role in all of this.

00:08:14.580 I mean, she's still young. Very, very young.

00:08:15.680 Right. She doesn't, you know, like, she understands little tidbits.

00:08:19.380 Like, she understands that, you know, the relationships that she has in her life, and this has a lot to do with it.

00:08:25.980 She understands the importance of, you know, like, what her paternal side of the family, like, what they do and who they are.

00:08:34.680 And she understands that importance in their roles as far as, like, you know, the first family.

00:08:41.380 So she knows that her grandfather is the president.

00:08:44.100 Yes.

00:08:44.920 So she knows that.

00:08:45.640 And you actually mentioned before that we're sitting here just blocks away from the house.

00:08:54.020 And it's up to you.

00:08:55.300 Do you want to tell me what you just said off air?

00:08:56.720 Yeah. So she, we're at the, at our, says, we tell her, ask the publicist where we're going, what's the location and stuff.

00:09:06.100 And she says, it's actually close to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

00:09:09.440 And I was like, oh, okay.

00:09:10.420 So I'm telling, you know, my mom it's down from the White House.

00:09:14.460 Right.

00:09:14.940 And so Navy hears that.

00:09:15.820 And she's like, oh, well, that's what we're going to do.

00:09:18.180 So are we going to stop and say hi to him?

00:09:19.740 Are we going to go?

00:09:20.540 And I was like, I don't know why I even said that.

00:09:23.140 She, she's very, very intelligent.

00:09:25.260 Very intelligent.

00:09:25.920 And she, she knows so much more than.

00:09:27.440 So she right away asked.

00:09:28.640 Yes.

00:09:29.080 Oh, are we going to see my grandpa?

00:09:30.760 Right.

00:09:31.020 And I was like, oh, well, I was like, I think he's out of town.

00:09:33.100 Like he's working.

00:09:33.840 You know, he has a very busy job, which I've told her many times when she asks why they're not around.

00:09:38.620 Well, they busy out there.

00:09:41.260 You know, they, that I told her that her grandfather has these, this very important job.

00:09:46.360 And, you know, he's out there doing things for people.

00:09:48.400 And she says, oh, so he's out there, you know, other people.

00:09:54.180 He'll come see me.

00:09:55.220 And, and like in the book, I talk about so many times that that's brought up.

00:09:59.740 And, and she's very, very intelligent.

00:10:01.520 She understands, but not quite, you know, she doesn't quite get it.

00:10:05.000 But, um, yeah, it's, it's.

00:10:07.740 Now, had you always decided to, uh, to be open like that and be transparent with her?

00:10:13.000 Or is that, or is that something you came to eventually?

00:10:15.460 I wanted to, I want, there's a lot of things that, you know, I've, I've thought about and

00:10:19.500 I've wanted to instill in my daughter.

00:10:20.840 And one of them, you know, is, is being resilient and, you know, never have to look back and,

00:10:26.140 and say, you know, well, this is how it actually happened when that time I was telling you it

00:10:30.440 was happening another way.

00:10:31.380 Cause you know, parents do, you want to shield your child.

00:10:33.540 Oh yeah, of course.

00:10:34.260 And you don't want to, you don't want to break their heart.

00:10:35.840 You don't want to be the one to break their heart.

00:10:37.600 And by the way, boys, if you're watching, I've never done that.

00:10:39.840 I've never, ever, you know, I might, I've never, no, no, no, no.

00:10:43.240 Hey, listen, there's even one story in the, in the book.

00:10:46.160 I talk about, um, you know, Navy's three things like you, her three things, three things. 0.85

00:10:51.320 You can tell her if she does something, I'm like, Navy three things.

00:10:54.200 What are they?

00:10:54.640 And she's in trouble and she's like, respectful, kind of, so I'm like, I won't raise you any other

00:10:59.320 way.

00:10:59.700 Wow.

00:11:00.100 So she'll tell me, you know, which one she didn't do or which one she did.

00:11:03.820 It's very Southern, by the way.

00:11:04.920 It is very Southern.

00:11:05.760 But, um, you know, that, that's a trait that I want to instill in her.

00:11:09.700 Those traits.

00:11:10.640 And so there's a story in the book one night, you know, she asks about, um, about Hunter

00:11:15.500 and I, I tell, I talk about how, you know, questions are hard to answer as parents when

00:11:19.860 it comes to difficult situations.

00:11:21.540 And I think in my head, respectful, kind, and honest.

00:11:24.260 And then you have, then I lied.

00:11:26.500 Like I had to lie to her because it just broke my heart.

00:11:29.060 I couldn't tell her the truth of, you know, what had happened that day.

00:11:32.740 And so this, that idea is, I want to go back to that second.

00:11:35.900 So, you know, you mentioned, so she knows where her grandfather is.

00:11:38.500 She knows her grandfather's a president.

00:11:39.860 She's, she's constantly asking me, and you detail this in the book, Out of Shadows.

00:11:43.580 I do.

00:11:43.780 And there are times then where I'm guessing that she must see him on television, see him

00:11:49.520 on newspapers.

00:11:50.160 I mean, you, you can't avoid that.

00:11:52.120 Well, that, that is true.

00:11:53.460 Um, you know, I've waited at the house.

00:11:55.120 I don't watch the news or anything like that.

00:11:57.100 As, as you know, before we were talking, I don't know much about the news and what's

00:12:00.440 going on.

00:12:00.900 Like, and, um, and so I, I try to avoid that for her sake.

00:12:05.360 I don't want her to see things of, you know, her dad or someone like that, you know, because

00:12:10.400 there's so much out there.

00:12:11.640 And so I try to shield her from that as much as I can, but there's also times, you know,

00:12:15.160 I talk about that we're in like a nail salon and it's like, Hey, look, mom, there's my,

00:12:20.460 there's my grandpa pointing at the TV.

00:12:23.100 And I'm like, okay, first of all, lower your voice.

00:12:24.880 Let's be quiet.

00:12:26.420 But, um, you know, yeah, no, she, she sees that and she sees my dad as like her pappy

00:12:31.420 that she gets to see every day.

00:12:33.080 You know, he shows her this unconditional love and she knows him as her grandpa that

00:12:37.560 she occasionally might see, you know, on a TV screen in passing.

00:12:41.180 As she occasionally might see on a TV screen in passing.

00:12:45.420 And that's, and that's gotta be so strange for her because obviously, as you say, she has

00:12:51.300 this great relationship with your father, with your mother who are there physically.

00:12:55.920 And at some point though, she's going to ask, I have to imagine when, you know, when am

00:13:02.440 I going to get to see him?

00:13:03.440 And, and even as you say right now, as we're just a few blocks away from the white house,

00:13:09.400 I mean, I don't even know which way you guys drove, but you, it's kind of hard to get where

00:13:13.660 we are right now without seeing the white house.

00:13:15.580 It's just where we are totally doxing our location, by the way.

00:13:18.600 Sorry, sorry, Raph.

00:13:19.700 Sorry, Rob.

00:13:20.200 You know, it is what it is.

00:13:21.780 But you know, we're, we're here in downtown DC, the white house is ubiquitous landmark.

00:13:25.320 Do you, do you guys plan to take some time in DC and go see any of the sites or do you

00:13:28.120 have time?

00:13:28.800 I don't know if we have much time, but you know, favorite places I lived here and absolutely

00:13:34.420 loved it.

00:13:35.040 Still do.

00:13:35.660 And so, you know, I like, I like the fact that she loves it too.

00:13:38.760 She's been here before.

00:13:39.640 And I talk about in the book, how we, we stayed here for about a month.

00:13:45.020 And, you know, I talk about the first time that I take her to the white house and she

00:13:50.020 doesn't fully understand who's inside, but I do.

00:13:53.380 And there she is outside the gates.

00:13:54.980 And, you know, I talk about there's in this book, Out of the Shadows, it's taken a complete

00:14:00.080 journey to come out of those shadows because there's so much that's, that's happened and

00:14:04.580 so many emotions as a mother, as, you know, uh, just a person in general going through

00:14:10.060 so much, but especially as a mother and seeing, you know, I say hell hath no fury, like a

00:14:15.320 woman scorned, right? 1.00

00:14:16.420 Oh yeah.

00:14:16.880 But hell hath no greater fury than a woman whose baby is being scorned. 1.00

00:14:20.820 That hurts.

00:14:21.320 And that's, you know, and, and I've, I've seen some of your other interviews where you've

00:14:24.880 brought this up and let's just, let's run through it.

00:14:28.940 No, has there been any communication from the family other than what you've talked to

00:14:33.440 about Hunter before us?

00:14:34.660 Any, any other family members whatsoever?

00:14:36.720 No.

00:14:37.360 Because she's got, she's got adult sisters who, uh, you know, have cell phones and I'm 0.91

00:14:42.440 sure know how to use FaceTime and know how to do all this.

00:14:44.920 So not even communication from her own sisters.

00:14:47.200 No, I was advised by, advised by my attorney that, um, you know, most of the time the family

00:14:51.320 sits back and doesn't, you know, take initiative until the father does that.

00:14:55.840 And so, you know, it's, it's something that I don't know.

00:15:00.220 I, I, I can't explain.

00:15:01.580 I can't explain anyone else's behavior other than my own.

00:15:04.020 Right.

00:15:04.600 So, um.

00:15:05.300 But you've had no communication.

00:15:06.580 No.

00:15:07.100 Wow.

00:15:08.120 No.

00:15:08.340 And that, and, and that's, that really cuts against and, you know, obviously, I'm trying

00:15:13.160 to not to make this political, but there is an image that the first family tries to present

00:15:18.300 of being a family focus, family values.

00:15:20.820 It's, it's something that they use and have used for a very long time.

00:15:24.440 And to me, it seems like everything that you're describing flies completely in the face of

00:15:29.520 that.

00:15:30.020 And, and whatever the situation was, your daughter wasn't responsible for anything.

00:15:36.440 She's completely innocent.

00:15:38.000 And so wouldn't the family first option be to say, we're, we're going to try to find a

00:15:43.720 way to work something out.

00:15:44.880 Absolutely.

00:15:45.680 I would think so.

00:15:46.580 And I would think, you know, no matter what, especially when a child is involved or anything,

00:15:50.280 you embrace it.

00:15:52.320 You know, there's, there's nothing more that the American people love, I would think,

00:15:56.280 than the first family being humanized, like feeling relatable.

00:16:00.360 Wouldn't you?

00:16:01.300 I mean, would you?

00:16:01.860 Oh, of course.

00:16:02.540 Look, as, as, as, as a guy, you know, and I, I was, you know, chatting with, uh, with some

00:16:07.580 of the producers about the situation and thinking about it and say, look, you know, I don't

00:16:11.320 know what would happen if my boys ever, you know, came to me with a story like this, but

00:16:14.920 I say, all right, we got to figure it out.

00:16:16.180 Right.

00:16:16.500 And we're going to, we're going to do something and I, I don't know what it's going to look

00:16:19.260 like and I don't know how it's going to figure out.

00:16:20.760 And, you know, you got the white house involved in all this, but they go to Rehoboth and they

00:16:24.940 have these huge family get togethers and they post the pictures and weddings and they're

00:16:29.180 very, very active with the family.

00:16:31.400 And so how hard would it be to just add one more person to this already large family picture?

00:16:38.360 And, and to me, that is evidence of what you say.

00:16:42.560 That's an evidence of the fact that this is scorn, that this is deliberate.

00:16:46.520 There is a decision.

00:16:47.760 Somebody made a decision at some point that we are not going to do this.

00:16:52.520 Right.

00:16:53.220 And it's tough.

00:16:54.340 It's your child that's, that's on the outskirts like that.

00:16:57.980 And you're so protective as a parent.

00:16:59.800 And that, that's tough.

00:17:02.540 It's tough to see.

00:17:03.220 And it's tough to watch these almost slaps in the face to, to your daughter.

00:17:07.340 It's, it's hard, you know, and you always have that hope for some form of redemption and

00:17:11.660 some form of embrace or some form of acknowledgement or, you know, any, anything that would, because

00:17:18.600 a daughter yearns for a father's love and Navy, Navy does.

00:17:22.700 She does.

00:17:23.480 I mean, she, she asks about him.

00:17:24.960 She, she wants to be a professional painter. 0.89

00:17:27.220 Now I talk in the book about, you know, their zoom calls and how, as soon as they start

00:17:31.400 that relationship, like, I'm just like out of the picture.

00:17:33.860 She, you know, mama's not hero anymore.

00:17:35.780 It's, it's, I want to be like my dad.

00:17:38.320 And, you know, um, before T-ball, she wants to talk to her dad.

00:17:41.900 She gets out of surgery.

00:17:42.660 She wants to talk in, and vice versa.

00:17:44.300 You know, he was communicating.

00:17:46.260 She had, um, her adenoids removed.

00:17:48.920 Oh, you know what?

00:17:49.500 I did hear that.

00:17:50.220 I did read that.

00:17:50.980 But, um, you know, she, and it, but it was vice versa. 0.85

00:17:54.480 You know, it started off as, as court ordered that he would, he would like FaceTime once

00:17:59.400 a month or zoom, whatever to do a painting.

00:18:01.640 But they started developing this relationship where there's multiple calls.

00:18:05.440 There might be multiple calls a week, you know?

00:18:07.300 And that's good.

00:18:08.760 That's actually good.

00:18:09.600 We, we have a quick break coming up.

00:18:11.460 We're on with London Roberts, the book, fascinating book.

00:18:14.480 I'm going to read this cover to cover out of shadows.

00:18:17.500 I want everyone else to read it as well.

00:18:19.800 We'll be right back.

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00:19:47.640 So, I want to ask you more about the parenting side, but I'm also reminded that, and I want

00:19:54.100 people to know about the book, because we're here to sell a book, right?

00:19:56.900 And we have the same publisher, so we're working with Skyhorse.

00:19:59.240 Oh, okay.

00:19:59.840 And you have signed books as well, right?

00:20:03.580 Right.

00:20:03.980 So, where do they go for the signed books?

00:20:05.580 Premier Collectibles, I think?

00:20:06.480 I believe so, yes.

00:20:07.380 So, Premier Collectibles, great group.

00:20:09.240 We're working with them as well, so a lot of connective tissue there.

00:20:13.140 But one of the things that, so, obviously the book, it's your story, it's your daughter's

00:20:18.420 story, her first steps into life.

00:20:22.000 You are taking control of the narrative, then resetting, in many ways, the narrative.

00:20:26.980 But there is part of the narrative in the book, actually, where you talk about that time in

00:20:30.640 D.C., and something that I know our audience is going to want to get this book for, and

00:20:35.280 that is Rosemont Seneca.

00:20:37.700 The fact that you actually were around, not on the business side, but you were actually

00:20:42.720 around a lot of these individuals that come up for us when we look at the, we talk about

00:20:48.760 the laptop and all these stories that have come out in the press.

00:20:51.740 What was Rosemont Seneca like when you were actually there?

00:20:55.440 You know, honestly, like the times I was there, because there was a lot of, you know, I was

00:21:00.200 his assistant, and so I did a lot of, like, odds and ends that he needed done, running

00:21:04.200 around and doing whatever.

00:21:05.540 But, you know, I was also there, and they were moving things out, and so I didn't get

00:21:12.300 the full, you know, Rosemont Seneca experience.

00:21:14.640 I got the Hunter package with, as his executive assistant, doing certain things that he needed

00:21:19.580 done, also communicating with his other assistant and, you know, conspiring together what needed

00:21:24.320 to be done.

00:21:24.720 But, yeah, I didn't get the full Rosemont Seneca package, but the Rosemont Seneca package

00:21:30.180 I got was, you know, the partying and stuff like that with Hunter.

00:21:35.480 And was that always part of it?

00:21:37.380 Was that always, as you say, part of the package?

00:21:40.460 No, it was part of Hunter.

00:21:42.500 Yeah, well.

00:21:44.140 But, no, not necessarily.

00:21:46.000 I mean, you know, there was times that, you know, I worked with Katie Dodge and his other

00:21:51.500 assistant and helped, you know, move things out of the office, get things and do things

00:21:55.540 and do certain paperwork, go over things.

00:21:58.040 And it had that, you know, it had that other side, too.

00:22:01.680 And I talk about that throughout the book because, you know, at one point when I become pregnant,

00:22:06.400 I just leave and come back to Arkansas, you know, then you're just up and leave and, you

00:22:10.740 know, you're still on payroll.

00:22:11.640 Well, what people don't understand is, like, you know, at one point when I found out I was

00:22:16.560 pregnant and him and I kind of disconnect, you know, we lose that over time and there's

00:22:22.460 that abandonment, then, you know, I was dealing with a lot and dealing with, you know, someone,

00:22:28.940 I was pregnant, I was alone, you know, it was obvious where he was going in the direction,

00:22:35.020 you know, he was an addict and I knew that.

00:22:37.660 And then the possibility that his father might run for president someday.

00:22:41.160 Was there, you know, was there ever any discussion about perhaps not having the pregnancy?

00:22:48.940 No.

00:22:49.360 You know, he told me in the beginning when I told him about me being pregnant, he accepted

00:22:53.780 it and told me that, you know, no matter what decision I decided, that he would be there

00:22:58.200 for me physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.

00:23:01.040 Like he, he said all that.

00:23:02.860 Was it, was it something you ever considered?

00:23:05.320 No.

00:23:05.760 But, you know, there was one time where I was talking to a friend and I was like, you know,

00:23:09.060 it's sad that the only, it is, it's a lot.

00:23:12.800 And you think, you know, you don't want to be the person to go through this, you know,

00:23:16.520 and it, like I was talking about.

00:23:17.820 And a lot of people, a lot of people might take that other route.

00:23:21.160 Right.

00:23:21.560 And what people don't realize like about me is like behind the scenes, like I get my anxiety

00:23:25.920 builds up.

00:23:26.500 Like this is really hard for me.

00:23:28.060 This talking to you in front of so many people is coming out of the shadows.

00:23:31.800 And that's, that's the whole purpose of the book.

00:23:34.340 It's a dedication to my daughter.

00:23:36.220 So one day she can, you know, admire her mother for, for telling her story.

00:23:41.120 And, you know, and our, and my story comes with a lot of forgiveness and that's something

00:23:45.240 I'd like to instill in my daughter as well.

00:23:46.740 That resilience, you know, forgive people, even if they don't deserve it, even if they

00:23:50.580 don't apologize, it's okay to forgive people, to not carry that burden around for yourself.

00:23:54.560 It's very hard to forgive.

00:23:55.060 It's very hard to forgive.

00:23:56.120 It is.

00:23:56.220 Though I will say the Catholic side of me says, we do also ask for atonement.

00:24:00.280 We do ask, also ask people that we, we pray that people would want to atone as well.

00:24:06.500 And in, in order to, in order to seek their own forgiveness in a sense.

00:24:11.020 So it's, it's, it, and that's where you get redemption, right?

00:24:13.780 So that's where redemption comes in.

00:24:15.300 And so not, not on you, I'm talking about the people who have committed such things.

00:24:18.600 Yeah.

00:24:19.120 And so, you know, actually it's funny, I got a comment in here just now where, cause

00:24:22.540 you were talking about resilience and strength and having the ability to overcome your anxiety

00:24:28.260 and obviously go through what I'm sure are going to be a lot of attacks.

00:24:32.400 You detail this in the book about harassment and threats and all of the things that you

00:24:37.420 face.

00:24:37.940 But I got this comment here from a, from a guy still boneless.

00:24:41.560 And it said, he says, it's, it's so hard on the parent that stays with the child because

00:24:47.040 the parent that's left gets put on a pedestal in their eyes.

00:24:51.340 And so the absentee parent, all that it's, you just have this positive side, this positive

00:24:56.640 view, all their positive attributes are enhanced and all of the negatives, they don't exist.

00:25:02.300 They don't exist.

00:25:02.900 Whereas with you, she's, she's spending every day with you.

00:25:05.800 So it's like, Oh, mom was mad at me because I drew on the wall or whatever.

00:25:09.620 Not to say she did, but I'm talking about my kids, you know, they see all that, but we're,

00:25:13.540 but it's, it's the image of the father.

00:25:16.000 And then as you, as you mentioned, the grandfather, then they become these larger than life figures.

00:25:20.400 Yeah. And, and that, that's very true. I mean, Navy Joan just absolutely adores anything that 0.99

00:25:27.160 has to do with her father. She just thinks it's, you know, great and wonderful. And, you know,

00:25:31.380 I also instill that in her, that love and that forgiveness that I talk about throughout the book

00:25:35.560 when there's times, of course, don't get me wrong. You know, there's a lot of anger in this

00:25:39.560 book and there's a lot of heartbreak. And there's a lot of times where I want to say the worst thing

00:25:42.840 possible about him, but I don't. And, you know, like when she, she'd never heard her father's

00:25:48.740 voice and, you know, mom, what does my dad sound like? What does his voice sound like? You know,

00:25:53.920 I play her, I could have done many things. I could have, you know, made fun of his accent. I could

00:25:59.440 have, I could have done anything to try to throw her off or deflect, but I didn't, you know, I sat down

00:26:06.220 with her and I pulled up the video of him at Bo's funeral where he gave the eulogy. And, you know,

00:26:13.320 he's sitting there and he's like, I love you. I love you. I love you. Cause that's a video of her

00:26:17.020 father showing love. So you've even been willing to get into some of those, like the, the, the family

00:26:22.160 tragedies as well. Well, I mean, she doesn't know that it was a eulogy for a funeral or anything like

00:26:27.340 that. She's just hearing, you know, her father's voice and kind of, and she hears the, I love you.

00:26:32.040 I love you. And, you know, she's talking back to the, to the phone. She's like, I love you. And

00:26:37.480 like kisses the iPhone. I'm just like, you know, there, there are times where I've not wanted to

00:26:42.920 be so respectful and so nice, but for my daughter, I'll do anything. And, you know, I want her to know

00:26:48.560 that she comes from a place of love and she, you know, she comes from people who are capable of

00:26:53.280 love. I want her to always know that. So just a few minutes left here with you, but let me, let me ask

00:26:58.620 you this. If you had the opportunity to send a message or even just sit down, sit down with,

00:27:04.760 um, with Navy Jones grandfather or grandmother with, with Jill, what, what would you, what would

00:27:12.880 you ask them? What would you, what would your message to them be?

00:27:17.520 Yeah. Why? Yeah. I've said that, I've said that so many times. It's just why, why, why exclude a 0.95

00:27:23.860 little girl that, that is, you know, your, your blood, your own blood? Why exclude your, your child

00:27:29.640 or your grandchild? Because that, it, it doesn't make sense to me. I don't think there's, you know,

00:27:34.200 any way to really defend it, but that's something that she's going to, you know, while, and that's

00:27:40.500 tough. That's a tough question. And I don't think it's on my shoulders to answer because I think she's

00:27:45.220 deserving of the world. I think she's great. And, you know, I, I love her more than anything in this

00:27:50.680 world and she's going to want to know why didn't they. And so that, that would be my question.

00:27:57.220 I think there's, you know, I, I, I talk about hope throughout the book. I continuously,

00:28:02.000 situation after situation of being let down, have this hope for redemption. And it's kind of like

00:28:07.660 you said, you know, forgiveness comes with atonement. Like it's, it is, it should, I get that.

00:28:13.060 I get that as well, but you always have that hope for some form of redemption.

00:28:19.040 I know. I agree. I mean, forgiveness is a gift. It's a gift for us. It's a gift for them,

00:28:22.800 but it's also, there's a process that, that when you tie it to this, and we're getting,

00:28:28.760 we're getting very theological now, but you know, it's, it's tied to that and it's emotional too.

00:28:33.540 It's tied to that process of, of realizing that I'm going to now make steps in my life to no longer

00:28:41.200 engage in those things. It doesn't mean I'm going to be perfect, right? But I'm going to take active

00:28:46.680 steps to, in this case, to try to include, uh, my granddaughter or our granddaughter in,

00:28:54.720 maybe it's a family event. Maybe it's a family, doesn't need to be public. Doesn't need to be

00:28:58.080 something that's all, you know, plastered over television and have me tweeting about it and

00:29:02.120 everything, but something not for public consumption of media or anything, but for your own granddaughter.

00:29:09.120 And it's, it's as simple as that. And I, I congratulate you so much. This, this sounds

00:29:13.540 like this easy for you. It's taken a lot of time. And there, there were chapters that my coauthors

00:29:18.700 had to help me through because it was so hard to write. And there are still stories that, you know,

00:29:23.060 sitting in front of you, I could talk about and just get so emotional because they are emotional.

00:29:26.620 They were hard to write and they're even harder to talk about. Right. But, um, you know,

00:29:30.940 I want my daughter to know that her mother stands 10 toes down at all times. And, you know,

00:29:36.240 I'm embracing that and coming out of the shadows with my voice. And I want, I want her to have

00:29:40.660 that train. I want her to admire that someday, the strength that it took to come out of the

00:29:45.360 shadows and, and be this person. I want her to, I want her to have that resilience. And I want her

00:29:50.020 to admire me someday for doing this. This is for her. I'll just say that there's a lot of choices

00:29:56.120 you could have made. And there's a lot of ways that you could have played this situation,

00:30:00.160 but the way that you've dealt it is probably the most admirable way I could think of possible

00:30:05.080 in going public, having that courage, being able to be respectful, but at the same time,

00:30:11.240 not giving up and holding the line for yourself and your daughter. Right. London Roberts,

00:30:17.320 God bless you. And God bless your family. Thank you.

00:30:20.040 Thank you.

00:30:20.060 Thank you.

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00:31:54.860 my Patriot supply.com. Look, folks, uh, we've got our, our next guest up coming here. Caroline

00:32:03.580 Levitt, the press secretary for the Trump campaign. Now you may have heard that she was on CNN a little

00:32:10.440 bit this week. We've got a clip. Let's play it right now. It's to, it takes someone five minutes

00:32:15.440 to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump to see that Jake Tapper has consistently.

00:32:19.000 I'm going to stop this interview. If you're going to keep attacking my colleagues,

00:32:21.220 Adolf Hilter, ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview. If you continue to attack my colleagues,

00:32:26.460 I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for. Yes. If you are here

00:32:30.740 to speak on his behalf, I'm willing to have this conversation. I am stating facts that your

00:32:36.420 colleagues have stated in the past. Now, I'm sorry, guys, we're going to come back out to the panel.

00:32:40.100 Caroline, thank you very much for your time. You are welcome to come back at any point. She is

00:32:44.320 welcome to come back and speak about Donald Trump. And Donald Trump will have equal time

00:32:49.300 to Joe Biden when they both join us now at next early, later this week in Atlanta for this debate.

00:32:57.660 So tomorrow night is debate night here in these United States. And CNN isn't just going to be

00:33:05.240 someone who's covering debates. That's the very same CNN who, oh, by the way, is going to be

00:33:11.080 running the debate. And the question I think on everyone's mind is, will those debates be held to

00:33:17.160 the same standard that the CNN morning show just was, where if you bring up some of the actual things

00:33:24.280 that Jake Tapper, who is going to be one of the hosts on the show, one of the moderators of the

00:33:29.900 debate, has said on CNN, some of these absolutely horrifically biased things that he said about

00:33:37.860 President Trump, comparing him to Adolf Hitler on numerous occasions, if you bring that up,

00:33:43.480 if you bring that up, that suddenly your mic gets cut off, that line of questioning gets cut off.

00:33:49.200 Look, and we remember, by the way, that Chris Wallace was cut off four years ago in his debate

00:33:55.920 when, or excuse me, Chris DeBoss cut off President Trump four years ago when President Trump brought up

00:34:00.800 what Hunter Biden. Well, we just had Hunter Biden's daughter here in studio, London Roberts.

00:34:13.680 And there's some questions I think she has. No, I don't think that President Trump should bring that

00:34:18.080 up in any way. But I would say, certainly myself, that that family has a lot to answer for. And there's

00:34:24.740 a little girl who, what can I say? I didn't know that that was going to be going on today,

00:34:30.960 that we obviously we knew we had the guest scheduled. But to hear that, mommy, are we going

00:34:37.460 to see grandpa today? There's the White House just a block or two away. And we are just a block or two

00:34:43.400 away from the White House. Are we going to see grandpa today? Oh, grandpa's busy. We can't see

00:34:50.180 grandpa today. He's he's busy. Oh, well, we'll see him later. Right. Then one day I'll see me.

00:34:56.920 I just, you know, as a father, and anyone who's a parent out there have no idea, no idea how you

00:35:03.300 answer that question. Do we have Caroline? Caroline, are you there? Yes, I'm here. Hey,

00:35:08.080 Jack, great to see you. Okay, producers, I want you to cut her mic immediately, throw her off the show. 1.00

00:35:14.200 Look, I mean, this is ridiculous. Allow you to speak when we've invited you on the show. 0.57

00:35:18.120 Who would do such a thing? Unbelievably crazy way to start the debate week. And all I was trying to

00:35:27.000 do, Jack, was repeat statements that Jake Tapper himself has made on the air lies about President

00:35:33.440 Trump, saying that President Trump's presidency was a long national nightmare, comparing President 0.93

00:35:38.740 Trump to Hitler, which is disgusting. Jake Tapper's done that many times on the air. But when I try to 0.51

00:35:43.560 bring that up on the air, they can be off the show. And by doing so, they did two things. They

00:35:48.860 proved our campaign's point that President Trump is knowingly walking into a three on one knife fight

00:35:54.700 tomorrow night. But they also exposed the truth about Jake Tapper to the entire world. And now

00:36:00.960 everyone knows just how anti Trump he has been over the past eight years.

00:36:04.940 Well, and so give us a little bit of a preview, then as much as you can only reveal all the strategy

00:36:12.080 here. But certainly, it feels like if that's how they're setting the frame, do you think that there

00:36:17.940 are going to be where things we know the mic cutting has already been something that they put out as a

00:36:23.280 stipulation? What is the plan to respond when that happens?

00:36:27.080 Well, we hope that CNN will not do what they did to me on Monday. We hope that they will try to prove

00:36:34.160 themselves as the most trusted name in news and give a truly fair shake to both President Trump and Joe

00:36:40.060 Biden. Ask good, tough questions of both of the candidates. They should ask Joe Biden why he lied about

00:36:46.820 the Hunter Biden laptop scandal on their network four years ago on the debate stage. No matter what, President

00:36:53.960 Trump is going to be ready to talk about the issues that matter to voters across this country,

00:36:58.540 our wide open border invasion, the inflation that's robbing hardworking families. He's prepared for this

00:37:04.300 debate. He engages in hostile media interviews with the press where he's cut off all the time.

00:37:09.420 He gives hours long speeches, oftentimes not even referring to his teleprompter. And Joe Biden has

00:37:15.320 been spending a week away at Camp David hiding in the woods. So hopefully he's prepared as well.

00:37:19.840 My favorite theory on that is from my good friend Brickstoot. And his theory is that he's working

00:37:26.660 on changing his sleep schedule. So he's waking up later and later in the day. Eventually, it'll feel

00:37:33.400 like 9 p.m. or 8 p.m. is sort of the middle of the day for him. But Caroline, that being said,

00:37:38.620 what's the campaign's main theme that they'd like to draw coming out of the debate? Someone who works in

00:37:44.760 media, of course, on the media side, you want to know what the narrative is. So what is the theme that

00:37:49.480 you think will really be highlighted here? Well, I think that our goal, of course, is to

00:37:55.120 highlight President Trump's strength with Joe Biden's weakness and to contrast President Trump's

00:38:01.920 record of success with Joe Biden's record of abysmal failures. And as long as President Trump

00:38:07.780 is given adequate time to speak and his microphone is not cut off and good questions are asked of both

00:38:12.840 candidates, he will absolutely come away having done that. Well, look, I mean, that's exactly what it

00:38:19.440 is. And to voters out there, I think it's really Biden who's got the harder argument to make to

00:38:25.980 say things are good when we know poll after poll or people just can go anecdotally to any gas station

00:38:31.960 or any grocery store and ask people, how do you feel about your purchase today? Do you think things

00:38:37.980 are better or worse? And so what do you expect Biden's argument to even be when that's brought up?

00:38:44.340 Well, Joe Biden's campaign has now burnt through more than $100 million running advertisements,

00:38:50.740 shamefully saying that President Trump is a threat to democracy, which is just an utter lie. Of course,

00:38:56.480 it's a fallacy that they've been trying to push. And it's a message that is not resonating because the

00:39:01.580 only return on that $100 million investment on that message has been Joe Biden's decline in the polls.

00:39:07.020 And actually, a recent Washington Post poll found that in the key battleground states,

00:39:11.440 voters trust President Trump to secure democracy more than they trust Joe Biden. And they should,

00:39:17.260 because look at what he did in his first term. President Trump created historic, unprecedented

00:39:21.620 peace around this world. He was the first president not to enter the United States into any new wars.

00:39:27.560 We had a booming economy under President Trump's leadership. We had a secure border. And now we

00:39:32.520 have Joe Biden, who has destroyed all of those accomplishments of the Trump administration. And Joe Biden

00:39:37.500 is the true threat to democracy. Just yesterday, there was a report that showed that there's more

00:39:43.020 than 50 ISIS-linked terrorists that are currently roaming around our country. And the Department of

00:39:48.200 Homeland Security has no idea where they are. They came through Joe Biden's open border. What is a

00:39:54.020 greater threat to democracy than that, having terrorists openly coming into your homeland? What's a

00:39:59.100 greater threat to democracy than being on the brink of World War III? Just last week,

00:40:03.400 China and North Korea, or I'm sorry, Russia and North Korea met to create a new pact and alliance

00:40:08.820 together. Because Joe Biden's weakness is ripping America off. And it's putting us in a very dangerous

00:40:14.440 predicament on the world stage. And so that's why their message is failing, because Americans know

00:40:19.940 that their lives were better under President Trump's leadership. Our nation was more safe and more

00:40:25.160 secure because of his policies. And that's the opposite of what we see today.

00:40:29.940 Absolutely. Caroline Levitt, the National Press Secretary for the Trump campaign. Good luck to

00:40:35.840 you guys tomorrow night. I know you're gonna be very busy. Thanks, Jack. Take care. Talk to you soon.

00:40:44.360 Buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office. I'm trying to listen to the new

00:40:48.980 human events with Jack Posobiec. All right, Jack Posobiec back live here, Human Events Daily. Now,

00:40:55.580 look, folks, we're covering a lot of ground today. We know we have the debate tomorrow. We just

00:40:59.200 heard from London Roberts. But also, of course, that huge decision.

00:41:04.180 Supreme say Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh did not rule the way we wanted. We want to talk

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00:42:07.960 guest, Andrew Ritta, because we need to talk more about this Supreme Court decision. He is the CEO

00:42:13.760 of Liberation Technology Service, CIS LiberationTech.com, and a former member of the Trump White

00:42:19.840 House. Andrew, thank you for joining the show. Hey, Jack. Thanks for having me. I've got to get

00:42:23.920 your response to the Supreme Court decision. This thing is hot, and I got to say I'm hot about it.

00:42:28.340 Yeah, I think that it's a huge win for the Bidens, the Biden administration, the Biden campaign,

00:42:33.300 and a huge loss for the American Constitution. Unfortunately, you know, this could be something

00:42:39.860 in 18 months where we are looking back and saying, if only the courts would have taken action.

00:42:44.560 Well, and this is a huge point, right? Because, and I said in the earlier part of the show, that

00:42:51.880 when they declare someone's tweets to be Russian disinformation and say, oh, well, you've got to

00:43:00.540 censor that because of this. Now, Elon Musk, this is something that I've had the opportunity to

00:43:04.660 actually ask him about directly in a one-on-one where I said, you know, Elon, if the FBI comes to you

00:43:13.300 and says, you need to censor a certain story or a certain topic because it is quote-unquote

00:43:20.200 Russian disinformation, and it is, in fact, completely lawful speech, would you do that?

00:43:25.780 He said no. And then I asked him again, I said, Elon, just because you say no, that's good enough,

00:43:31.460 but what if they sue you? What if they threaten to do more? And Elon's immediate response to me,

00:43:36.280 without hesitation, was I would be willing to go to jail rather than take down lawful speech.

00:43:42.980 He said, okay, you know, and as an interviewer, you know, you're not going to get a better answer

00:43:47.220 out of a guy. He said, all right, I'll take that. But that being said, does Mark Zuckerberg believe

00:43:51.940 that? Does TikTok believe that? Do all of these other entities believe that? I don't know. So what

00:43:58.240 can people do to try to combat this and get around it? What can people do other than the Supreme Court

00:44:05.740 here? Because it seems like, and I've got a comment here from Winnie9354, Amy Coney Barrett did a

00:44:10.960 bait and switch. She was raised a rhino and she's making her daddy proud. Wow. People very,

00:44:15.940 very upset. Yeah, I think that it's a severe travesty. And really, the answer is go to the

00:44:22.760 alternative platform. Stop putting money, time and energy into these companies that are not only

00:44:29.560 surrendering information. Oftentimes, they are proactively handing over information. It's just

00:44:35.340 like what we saw out of the Twitter files that Musk had released. But even more concerning is

00:44:40.100 they don't even really have to say that it's Russian disinformation. The DHS has a new classification

00:44:46.040 called malinformation, which essentially means it just goes against the Biden administration's

00:44:51.800 official position or narrative. So really, you can find yourself deplatformed, canceled, put into

00:44:58.880 Twitter or excuse me, Facebook timeout, just because you have an alternate vision and narrative

00:45:06.720 than what the government is pushing forward. And that's what we saw in COVID-19. You know,

00:45:12.660 all the election information, Hunter Biden laptop story. And now the Biden administration has a clean

00:45:18.380 slate to just go and push these companies to take further and further action against the American

00:45:24.100 people and against free speech. Now, that said, do you think do you think potentially that that there

00:45:29.980 could be a legislative fix to this? Obviously, that was something that we talked about a lot during the

00:45:34.400 Trump administration, worked very hard. President Trump came out with a few, you know, kind of executive

00:45:39.840 orders, but nothing really concrete on it. But it seems to me that there could be a legislative way,

00:45:45.280 at least to put pressure here. Yeah, so really, what you're talking about is Section 230.

00:45:50.660 And that has been around for decades at this point. It's incredibly outdated. It does not represent

00:45:57.560 current times and current technologies. And so, you know, these companies are given protection because

00:46:03.640 they're considered a platform where information can be shared, it can be decided upon the individual

00:46:10.200 consumer if it's real or if it's not. But as they move into what's called a publisher, where they're controlling

00:46:16.440 what information is on their platform, they're no longer protected. And so I think we

00:46:20.500 really need to look at revising this and better defining a lot of these things because these

00:46:26.520 companies are protected under 230, even though they're completely violating 230 in many instances.

00:46:32.560 Oh, and that's and that's precisely it, because we have this this network body that's been there,

00:46:37.980 I think 230, the locations in 96, when the internet was still in its infancy, AOL was still sending CDs

00:46:45.500 out, you know, with with magazine subscriptions. And I'm like, my, yeah, my kids come up, they say,

00:46:51.780 Daddy, what's a CD? And then even beyond that, it's like, Daddy, what's a magazine? Andrew, tell people,

00:46:57.440 where can they go to follow you to get access to everything that you're doing? And to get on board?

00:47:03.520 Yeah, so you can go to liberation tech, liberation tek.com. You can find all of our alternative

00:47:09.360 platforms and services. You can also follow us on all major social media platforms, liberation tech.

00:47:16.240 All right, Andrew, thanks so much for being on. Look, folks, I understand. People are very

00:47:20.640 decision and you should be any Amy Coney Barrett. By the way, if you can go look all the way back

00:47:27.680 when Amy Coney Barrett was being was being submitted for her nomination, that one website on the

00:47:36.640 conservative side dared run a piece saying that she might do something like this, that she might be 1.00

00:47:43.360 someone who did not stand up for many things in the conservative platform that we were looking for a

00:47:51.240 redress of our grievances from the Supreme Court. And by the way, not in a political sense, but in a

00:47:58.860 legal sense, uphold the First Amendment, uphold the Second Amendment. That is your job, Amy.

00:48:05.840 That's your job. Do your job. And it was humanevents.com that put up that article. And we took a lot of

00:48:12.700 flack for it at the time. John Zmirek was the author. But guess what, folks? Go and read. I'm

00:48:17.100 going to post that article again right now. Do your job, Amy. Do your job. Ladies and gentlemen,

00:48:22.820 as always, you have my permission to lay short.

00:48:24.620 So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.

00:48:29.820 So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 26, 2024

SCOTUS BETRAYS FREE SPEECH, LUNDEN ROBERTS TELLS ALL ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN

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