Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - STRATEGY SESSION： Global Empire or American Republic w⧸ Darren Beattie

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.600 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:47.280 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.

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00:00:51.880 Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective, a new world order can emerge.

00:00:58.800 A new era.

00:01:00.080 We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order.

00:01:07.720 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:01:09.680 Now, you are the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, all right?

00:01:13.400 Yes, sir.

00:01:13.780 You guys toy with countries of the world like, well, like toys, don't you?

00:01:19.320 You're like the Illuminati.

00:01:20.720 You're the Masons. 0.95

00:01:21.400 You control everything, don't you?

00:01:22.580 That's the wrap on you guys.

00:01:24.760 What's so interesting now, though, is who's on the chessboard.

00:01:26.980 The toys, if you will, are a lot more than states.

00:01:29.100 I am a firm believer, and it's not a popular position to take.

00:01:34.520 Everybody thinks we've been there 17 years, we need to get out kind of thing.

00:01:38.900 That's not the way I look at it.

00:01:40.340 I think we have to be present in that part of the world.

00:01:43.680 We all talk about a new world order.

00:01:45.600 I believe the process of globalization is here to stay.

00:01:49.900 A new world order, a new set of challenges is confronting us, both domestically and abroad.

00:01:57.860 The historic role in trying to make sure that there is, after all, a new world order.

00:02:03.960 And the phenomenal opportunities before us to create a real new world order.

00:02:08.780 This criminal government cartel doesn't recognize borders, but believes in global governance and rule by corporations.

00:02:18.420 We will never surrender America's sovereignty to an unelected, unaccountable global bureaucracy.

00:02:27.280 America is governed by Americans.

00:02:30.420 We reject the ideology of globalism, and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism.

00:02:39.860 Around the world, responsible nations must defend against threats to sovereignty, not just from global governments,

00:02:49.620 but also from other new forms of coercion and domination.

00:02:54.000 Sovereign and independent nations are the only vehicle where freedom has ever survived.

00:03:01.940 Jack Posobiec back here, Human Events Daily.

00:03:05.440 Strategy session, global empire or American republic.

00:03:11.020 You hear President Trump in that missive, which he delivered all the way back in 2016 in April,

00:03:18.740 that idea about a fight between nation states or globalism.

00:03:24.120 And in many ways, in an economic sense, in a security sense, in a demographic sense, and a social sense,

00:03:32.000 that is what the America First movement is all about.

00:03:36.120 We are joined today for this strategy session, the full hour, by Darren B. of Revolver News.

00:03:42.460 The professor.

00:03:43.460 Darren, how are you?

00:03:45.260 Doing great.

00:03:45.840 Great to be with you, and a belated happy birthday.

00:03:48.700 My understanding is you had a birthday recently, so very happy birthday.

00:03:53.240 Thanks, man.

00:03:53.920 I appreciate that, and love the guitar there in the background.

00:03:59.220 So the next, I've got my fretless bass acoustic, which is off the side here,

00:04:04.360 and we'll have to jam out at some point.

00:04:06.460 No, we're going to have to do an X.

00:04:08.080 I've encouraged Elon to do, through X, a Tiny Desk.

00:04:14.860 I think that could be a huge hit.

00:04:18.240 Like, that's actually, that could be something huge.

00:04:20.580 I want to do that.

00:04:21.340 NPR, it's like, the one thing that NPR does well.

00:04:25.500 But X could do it even better.

00:04:27.480 Everything has to be defunded at NPR, except for Tiny Desk.

00:04:30.940 The Tiny Desk concert is the only thing allowed.

00:04:33.440 We will allow this, but we'll have a strict, strict controls over who's allowed to perform.

00:04:39.340 Darren, two minutes before the break, or really just one and a half,

00:04:43.320 this is the essential question, isn't it?

00:04:45.760 And we're going to delve into this.

00:04:47.240 Empire versus Republic.

00:04:48.560 And so, how should we think of this?

00:04:57.180 Well, again, this, I'm glad we have a full hour, because there's so many different aspects to it.

00:05:05.360 You know, we have to clarify what these terms mean.

00:05:08.780 I think, you know, I think we can all agree that in practice, in reality, ever since maybe the Spanish-American War,

00:05:18.220 certainly after World War II, America has been what I think most people would call an empire.

00:05:28.500 Empire has gotten bad connotations.

00:05:31.480 I don't think that's necessarily the case.

00:05:33.700 I coined this phrase, globalist American empire, which absolutely was meant to have poor connotations.

00:05:41.220 But I think maybe the question, at least on my mind, is not whether we can sort of retreat from the world

00:05:49.400 to the extent that we're some kind of, you know, republic in the sense of, you know,

00:05:55.760 when people think of republican traditions, they think of like Geneva or, you know, Sparta,

00:06:00.760 or these kinds of, you know, city, state models.

00:06:03.780 Let's hold off there.

00:06:05.300 We'll go to our network, go to our break.

00:06:06.900 But let's get into all of these things.

00:06:08.860 Define the terms.

00:06:10.240 What is America?

00:06:11.420 When did the shift happen?

00:06:13.180 And what can we do about it?

00:06:14.780 Stay tuned.

00:06:15.500 Be right back.

00:06:23.400 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.

00:06:25.720 These are influencers, and they're friends of mine, Jack Posobiec.

00:06:31.640 Where's Jack?

00:06:32.620 Jack.

00:06:33.580 He's done a great job.

00:06:37.360 All right, Jack Posobiec back live.

00:06:39.660 Human Events Daily, the global strategy session, Empire or Republic.

00:06:44.760 We're on with the professor, Darren Beattie himself.

00:06:47.760 So, Darren, let's do that.

00:06:49.680 Let's define some of these terms that we're talking about.

00:06:53.740 Of course, President Trump refers to it as a nation state.

00:06:57.680 And I think this is useful for us in a sense as well, because when typically a lot of people

00:07:03.460 will talk about, and you hear this on, you know, kind of the right, the conservative side

00:07:07.360 a lot, they say, well, you know, we're a republic.

00:07:09.780 We're not a democracy.

00:07:10.860 We're a republic.

00:07:11.640 We're a republic.

00:07:12.280 But, you know, it also kind of rings hollow a little bit in the sense that when you turn

00:07:17.280 on the TV and you listen to the folks in government, some of whom, many of whom are on the republican

00:07:23.160 side even, it seems like the interests and the things animating them bear little relation

00:07:31.960 to the people of this country.

00:07:33.900 And so when I say republic, one of the things that I really mean is the a republic in the

00:07:40.620 sense that we should be a nation state beholden to the people of that nation state.

00:07:45.420 And that's all versus the global empire, which or the global American empire, globalist American

00:07:52.900 empire, which is probably a more apt term for the government under which we currently live.

00:07:58.840 So let's give that definition of each up front.

00:08:01.160 Yes, I mean, etymologically speaking, my understanding is that republic and democracy basically mean

00:08:12.820 the same thing.

00:08:13.620 They just have very different connotations because democracy is obviously Greek.

00:08:20.980 Republic is Latin.

00:08:26.440 And through a variety of factors, through history, they've acquired different connotations.

00:08:31.160 I think in the context of American kind of politically charged discourse, I know a lot of people

00:08:37.440 will say like, oh, we're not a democracy.

00:08:39.440 We're a republic, meaning to invoke more of the imagery of the founding fathers notion of

00:08:47.220 a constitutional republic, maybe some checks on the tyranny of the majority or mob rule or

00:08:54.560 some of the negative connotations associated with the term democracy.

00:09:00.840 And similarly with empire, empire, I think, for the most part, has a negative connotation.

00:09:09.200 It also has historical antecedent.

00:09:13.040 Most people will think of the Roman empire as the model for the imperial typology or maybe

00:09:21.200 the British empire.

00:09:22.200 And so obviously there are some critical differences.

00:09:27.160 But in the sense of is America always going to be a country with kind of global commitments,

00:09:35.820 of global reach, global power, global entanglements to some degree even?

00:09:43.700 I think that is simply baked into the cake of what we are.

00:09:49.140 And I think some would argue with some justification, say that this is always part of the destiny

00:09:54.460 of America as a kind of commercial republic, kind of a combination of a commercial republic

00:10:02.800 with this pioneer spirit or manifest destiny spirit.

00:10:07.440 Those two things together seem to lead to a more kind of global presence.

00:10:12.120 I guess my one sort of contrarian position on that is I think that exists in contradistinction

00:10:18.140 to other political entities that are often, again, as a pejorative, said, oh, they want

00:10:26.260 to take over the world.

00:10:27.360 They want to reach over the world.

00:10:28.840 I don't, for instance, think that's particularly the case with China.

00:10:32.840 I think there are very severe competitive domain with China and the area of the economy and

00:10:39.420 so forth, but there isn't that kind of natural expansionist tendency that you've seen in the

00:10:46.980 Anglo-American tradition.

00:10:49.560 And there's not this kind of ideology, universal, an ideology of universal appeal that attaches

00:10:57.060 to it.

00:10:57.760 Chinese, and you know this very well because you've been there, you speak the language,

00:11:01.120 you understand the culture, are in many ways an ethnocentric people.

00:11:05.820 But by extension, almost, there's an almost insularity that goes with that.

00:11:10.740 And this sense that, okay, we're the Chinese.

00:11:13.180 This is the kingdom that matters.

00:11:14.920 This is the place that matters.

00:11:16.460 But there's nothing about their ideology.

00:11:19.400 Well, and by the way, in fact, in the Mandarin, just to throw in, is that Zhongguo, which they

00:11:26.900 refer to China as, literally means the central kingdom.

00:11:32.620 They don't have a separate word, you know, getting into etymologies, you know, res publica

00:11:36.660 or the res public.

00:11:38.780 It just means the public thing, the thing of the people, which is the Latin, very similar

00:11:45.320 to the Greek for demos kratos.

00:11:49.540 So you're right, you know, we make these distinctions, but really etymologically speaking,

00:11:53.680 it's pretty the same.

00:11:54.820 Whereas in China, the etymology is, we are the central kingdom.

00:11:58.860 And when you look, of course, in Asian history, they certainly were the central kingdom of Asia.

00:12:02.900 They were the top dog.

00:12:04.360 And it also speaks to their mentality that they want China to be number one.

00:12:09.280 They want it to be number one, but I don't think there's an inherently expansionist sense

00:12:17.000 to the Chinese presence in the world in the way that there is to the Anglo-American style.

00:12:25.200 Think simply of the fact of the English language.

00:12:28.380 You know, I've put out a major piece a while ago at revolver.news that was also kind of contrarian

00:12:35.160 with respect to a lot of things people might see on, for instance, zero hedge or something like that,

00:12:41.120 basically saying that the U.S. dollar is king and the U.S. dollar's status as reserve currency,

00:12:48.820 global reserve currency, is much more secure than I think a lot of people might think.

00:12:55.700 And there are a variety of reasons for that.

00:12:57.180 But what's still more secure than the reserve currency status is the lingua franca status

00:13:04.900 of the English language.

00:13:06.940 So there are so many things that are kind of global, that are in many ways attached,

00:13:14.440 some uniquely and some not, to America and just the nature of the American presence in the world,

00:13:21.280 that I think there is something that is genuinely imperial about it.

00:13:27.500 So I think it's important, I guess, to divorce the negative kind of political connotations of words

00:13:35.340 to what might actually be a more objectively accurate referent to these words,

00:13:41.720 because in a politically charged conversation, empire just means a bad thing.

00:13:47.740 Republic typically means a good thing.

00:13:51.280 And democracy can vary depending on, you know, who is saying it.

00:13:56.660 It's almost become a word ravaged by the regime commissars who have used democracy 0.62

00:14:03.460 in the most cynical context in order to say it's democracy when we screw over the American people

00:14:10.220 and anything that's an attack on their illegitimate authority is in their presentation attack on democracy.

00:14:17.220 But what I'm getting at here is to what I think the central question is.

00:14:20.780 By the way, by the way, can I add to that real quick that the word empire,

00:14:26.040 you can find instances, I believe, where Teddy Roosevelt would use the word empire to expand the American empire.

00:14:33.680 Yes.

00:14:34.060 And he certainly was a huge part of this, where he didn't necessarily view that term,

00:14:42.480 certainly didn't view the term negatively, and also viewed it as something that was absolutely within the remit of America's manifest destiny

00:14:52.740 and certainly didn't believe, obviously, his adventures in Cuba are quite well known.

00:14:58.060 But he was in the Spanish-American War that you just mentioned.

00:15:01.040 But he was someone who believed that manifest destiny didn't necessarily end at the borders, at the contiguous borders.

00:15:10.340 And to wit, at that time of the year, of the turn of the century, the turn of the previous century,

00:15:15.660 we lived in a world of empires.

00:15:17.120 America was born in a world of empires.

00:15:19.580 At one point, I always tell this to people, and they can never believe me,

00:15:24.120 that on the North American continent, when the Declaration of Independence was written, think of it,

00:15:30.840 you had the British Empire, the Spanish Empire, the French Empire, and yes, even the Russian Empire

00:15:39.300 were all on the North American continent at that point.

00:15:43.320 We lived in a world of empires.

00:15:45.740 So no, the founding fathers and even all the way through Teddy Roosevelt

00:15:49.600 didn't necessarily think that an empire was a bad thing.

00:15:53.040 That was just the thing.

00:15:56.000 Right.

00:15:56.800 And so I think, again, in the politically charged context, empire just means something bad.

00:16:03.900 Democracy can vary.

00:16:05.280 Republic is something good.

00:16:06.820 But I think really driving at the substance of what's relevant when we say, well, will America

00:16:14.180 be an empire or a nation state or this or that, is really, will America be the kind of empire

00:16:24.840 that, will the victories of the empire be the victories of the American people?

00:16:31.160 I think that was a critical line in Trump's first inaugural, which I still think is by far

00:16:37.560 the best speech that he ever delivered, his first inaugural address.

00:16:42.560 And there was a line there, something to the effect of their victories.

00:16:47.520 And by saying there, he's speaking to the entire audience, which consisted of all the people

00:16:51.800 who've run the United States into the ground.

00:16:55.600 And so their victories are not our victories.

00:16:58.720 So I think the critical question is, can the victories of the American empire once again

00:17:06.740 also become the victories of the American people?

00:17:11.020 Can the hegemony of the empire become more in alignment with the thriving and flourishing

00:17:18.640 of the American people with a good standard of living and all the things that you would

00:17:22.400 expect to come with that?

00:17:23.900 That alignment, I think, is the critical question.

00:17:26.680 And what we should mean when we say America first.

00:17:30.440 And I think that's amazing.

00:17:32.420 It's the, and by the way, a true empire would obviously exist for the benefit of the citizens

00:17:41.100 of that empire.

00:17:43.320 And unfortunately, in the globalist American empire, it does not.

00:17:49.420 And so I'm glad that we talked about the definitions, because moving forward, we're going to talk

00:17:53.660 about what is going on with the GAE.

00:17:57.140 Stay tuned.

00:17:57.480 We'll be right back.

00:17:58.060 Human Events Daily, the Global Strategy Session.

00:18:04.460 When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:18:09.580 All right, Jack Posobiec.

00:18:10.860 We are back.

00:18:11.580 Human Events Daily, the Global Strategy Session.

00:18:14.220 Globalist American empire or American republic.

00:18:17.820 So when we look at the world and we look at America's role in the world and we ask ourselves

00:18:24.020 sometimes, you know, why do we have troops in Syria?

00:18:27.840 Why are we sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine?

00:18:32.320 Why is it that the United States Navy is so aggressively patrolling in waters that are tens of thousands

00:18:43.320 of miles away from our coastline in places like the South China Sea and the Japanese

00:18:50.200 Senkakus and the Diaoyu Islands and all of the different island chains around the Pacific?

00:18:55.140 And we ask ourselves, of what direct benefit is this to the people of the nation?

00:19:02.760 And certainly trade is something that is of benefit to the nation.

00:19:06.720 But some of these other issues seem to be quite a bit far.

00:19:10.200 And so, Darren, I suppose the question that I have here is, in the globalist American empire,

00:19:16.020 it's simply because the interests of the empire are disconnected from the interests of the people.

00:19:22.940 And as President Trump said right there, and we need to understand, and I think that I've

00:19:27.760 learned and we've all learned, that the government under which we live, for the most part, you

00:19:33.240 know, I'm talking about the government prior to President Trump's return to office, his

00:19:38.600 triumphant return, that the interests represented in Washington, D.C. are the interests of that

00:19:45.440 empire, by and large, rather than, quote unquote, any individual representation of their own,

00:19:52.880 you know, constituency and district.

00:19:56.160 Right, right.

00:19:57.280 I'd like to further elaborate on what I meant before the break when I emphasized this critical

00:20:03.400 point of their victories are not our victories, because this really is, I think, the central

00:20:08.840 metric by which we can judge the normative success of the empire from sort of America

00:20:18.340 first standpoint.

00:20:20.120 Now, again, this is something that is connected to my piece on the U.S. dollar as reserve currency.

00:20:28.360 And I thought, you know, it's far more stable than people imagine.

00:20:30.900 And I think there's this intuitive tendency where people would go online, they would scroll

00:20:37.220 X, they would go to, you know, YouTube or wherever, TikTok now, and they would see these infamous

00:20:45.320 clips of people just drugged out on the street in Philadelphia or people crapping on the street

00:20:52.940 in San Francisco and all of these things.

00:20:55.680 And just see the state of degradation of our once great cities in the United States.

00:21:02.240 And they'd say, my God, you know, the America is really going down the tube any day now.

00:21:09.120 You know, Chinese are going to take over everything or, you know, you name it, maybe Russians, but not so much 1.00

00:21:15.960 anymore.

00:21:16.500 People don't use that.

00:21:17.300 But they're saying, America is just going down the toilet completely.

00:21:20.600 We're not going to be a superpower anymore.

00:21:23.060 And I sympathize with that sentiment and intuition.

00:21:27.020 But I think it's important to point out that the criteria and the factors relevant to securing

00:21:37.820 basically American hegemony globally, geopolitically and economically, they're far more divorced

00:21:46.200 from the most observable and relevant metrics of standard of living that we see right in front

00:21:54.640 of us in our cities.

00:21:55.660 People think that those are more directly connected that they are, such that when they see the filth

00:22:03.180 and degradation in San Francisco or Philadelphia or name your city, they conclude things, you

00:22:09.640 know, America can't hold on as the number one superpower anymore. 0.99

00:22:13.440 When in fact, the things that are responsible for America being the superpower in terms of, you

00:22:20.580 know, energy dominance, you know, Wall Street dominance, military industrial complex, you

00:22:26.980 know, US dollar supremacy, these factors are much farther removed from those standard of

00:22:33.300 living factors that people imagine.

00:22:35.060 And so I think what's critical, again, is bringing those two things into better alignment.

00:22:40.900 And by extension, a lot of our conversations about geopolitics now, I think, are informed by this

00:22:49.460 sense of, you know, exposing the cynicism behind various geopolitical maneuvers, for instance,

00:22:57.700 saying, oh, look, the issue in Syria, Obama wanted regime change in Syria.

00:23:03.140 It was about a pipeline or Russia's doing this.

00:23:06.660 It was about a pipeline.

00:23:07.860 It was about gas problem.

00:23:09.540 And that accounts for, you know, the energy politics is behind a big part of their color

00:23:14.500 revolution, a big part of that Atlanticist faction of the national security state that

00:23:19.700 we reported and talked about.

00:23:21.300 And yes, of course, there's truth to that.

00:23:24.660 But I would reframe it and to say, if only you could break down all of our foreign policy

00:23:33.540 decisions in such cynical terms.

00:23:36.100 So it's like two layers here.

00:23:39.220 For one, people saying, oh, this foreign policy decision is just to benefit some sector of the

00:23:45.540 American economy.

00:23:46.500 Again, if only, you know, kind of related to what Trump was saying about Iraq.

00:23:51.300 It's like we did the whole thing in Iraq and we didn't even get the oil.

00:23:55.060 It's like the cynical interpretation that the cynical interpretation actually be

00:24:00.660 superior to what actually is driving and motivating force to a lot of our geopolitical

00:24:06.260 decisions.

00:24:07.300 It would be better to go into Iraq with the purpose of at least getting the oil and 1.00

00:24:13.380 enhancing our energy dominance than going into Iraq, you know, based on some,

00:24:17.940 you know, idealistic fantasy of spreading democracy, for instance.

00:24:22.020 So the cynical kind of material explanation would be preferable to the more sort of ideologically

00:24:30.260 motivated.

00:24:31.220 But then the second step is we need to make sure that if something's benefiting the energy

00:24:37.140 sector, for instance, that translates into an actual benefit for the American people.

00:24:42.740 So it's a double layer there.

00:24:44.580 And where we are now is in a stage where, yes, there's the cynical, oh, we're doing it

00:24:50.820 for our own material benefit for these companies and whatnot.

00:24:54.020 But there's a lot of the delusion mixed in with this that we need to totally eradicate.

00:24:59.220 A lot of the delusion, for instance, in our dealings with Africa of having, you know,

00:25:04.340 these human rights kind of, you know, but by that we mean sort of left wing

00:25:09.620 ideological agenda attached to our dealings in a way that's not the case for China.

00:25:15.300 So it's like this double layered thing.

00:25:18.020 We need to get rid of the ideology that has been responsible for our worst geopolitical blunders,

00:25:24.580 including Iraq.

00:25:26.260 But then once we get, once we make sure that our foreign policy decisions are actually made

00:25:31.940 to the benefit of the American economy, American dominance, American power, we need to make sure

00:25:37.380 that those things are actually correlated with the wellbeing and economic wellbeing of the American

00:25:44.740 people.

00:25:45.220 And that it's not just the stock of the energy companies going up and they get to buy another

00:25:51.860 mansion somewhere, but actually does redound to the benefit of what we more observably

00:25:57.780 see as standard of living conditions for Americans.

00:26:00.660 So I know that was a big mouthful, but I think that's really kind of the bird's eye

00:26:05.940 conceptual framework with which we need to evaluate foreign policy and geopolitics.

00:26:12.340 Yeah.

00:26:12.580 Look, I mean, people will sit there and say, say to me all the time and, and, you know,

00:26:16.820 certainly as, as I came up sort of through the China circles, you know, you get the China hawks

00:26:22.580 who say, oh, well, we have to go to war with them to teach those chi comms a lesson. 0.99

00:26:27.780 And it's like, well, guess what?

00:26:29.540 You, you'd blow up the entire planet and you just slaughter millions of Americans in the process 1.00

00:26:35.300 of that.

00:26:36.420 And then you get kind of the doves and, you know, and, oh, China's this, China's that,

00:26:40.980 but, you know, or, and we should work with them on climate change or, or some such thing.

00:26:44.980 But, you know, when it really, when it really does come down to it, and, and I'm just going

00:26:50.660 to say it, what, one thing I learned while living in China for two years was that Xi Jinping

00:26:56.580 and the government of the Chinese people really does work in a sense, in a sense, I'm not talking

00:27:03.780 about the Uyghurs and I'm not talking about a variety of issues within China, but they,

00:27:09.940 they have actually built up the basic, uh, the basic standard of living for their people.

00:27:16.820 And there's no crime, right?

00:27:18.660 No crime, hugely crime that goes on when you look at a city.

00:27:22.820 And by the way, they did so with foreign direct investment from the West.

00:27:26.980 And I've, you know, obviously spent years talking about this, and that's the reason Shanghai looks

00:27:31.300 the way that it does since the 1990s, when it was, you know, rice paddies on the other side

00:27:35.380 of the Pudong river and is now, you know, one of the financial capitals of the world in, um,

00:27:42.420 Luchatwe.

00:27:43.540 And the, you know, you know, the idea that, you know, they're doing that and they're advancing

00:27:50.100 as fast as possible.

00:27:50.980 And yeah, it's, you know, in many ways they step over human rights and they'll, you know,

00:27:55.940 tear up ancient, uh, villages and ancient towns.

00:27:59.300 And if you're in the way of the progress, you know, they just move you out.

00:28:01.780 There's no, there's no eminent domain in a, in their system.

00:28:04.580 They just, they just remove you and remove entire towns and entire cities, by the way,

00:28:08.900 were completely flooded when they, uh, when they built the, uh, the three gorges dam and, uh,

00:28:14.340 made this giant, the largest reservoir on earth behind it.

00:28:17.220 And it's like, so what, you know, we're, we're progressing the country.

00:28:20.100 Of course, if anyone knows, uh, what, one of the things probably,

00:28:22.980 I think that most people know about China is their, uh, their penchant for these mega projects

00:28:27.540 going all the way back to the great wall.

00:28:30.420 And so the, the idea being though, is that most Chinese people, the average Chinese person,

00:28:36.020 not talking about the, you know, the dissidents, but the average Chinese person that you meet

00:28:41.060 when they say, yeah, I support the CCP and I support the government.

00:28:43.940 It's because that person has seen their standard of living go up in their lifetime.

00:28:48.820 And because they've given the, and they're not communist in the economic sense anymore.

00:28:52.900 It's because they want to show their people and have given their people say this pathway

00:28:58.420 to say, if you get to one of these cities and it's hyper competitive and hyper capitalistic,

00:29:02.580 if you get to one of these cities and if you can make it up through the system,

00:29:05.700 you can make untold amounts of money.

00:29:09.300 And that obviously flies in the face of everything Chairman Mao taught and they sort of use the

00:29:14.180 communist, uh, pageantry and symbology as a sort of skin suit and in a way that we see many things

00:29:20.100 being used in the United States in similar fashion, but for different purposes.

00:29:23.460 But the point being is the, the life of the average person has gotten better.

00:29:29.220 And so I noticed that a lot of people in the China watcher world will refuse to just admit that basic

00:29:37.700 fact and will refuse to admit that this is the number one reason why you don't see, uh,

00:29:45.140 any massive rebellion against the central government, even with the restrictions of COVID,

00:29:51.060 even with going through that situation.

00:29:53.460 And this is why, and you know, their, their culture tends towards collectivization and

00:29:58.020 is certainly different from Western culture in a variety of reasons.

00:30:01.060 Uh, but this is why that you, you never see these widespread rebellions or,

00:30:05.220 oh, they're about to fall and come apart.

00:30:07.540 Like some people have been saying for 20 years, we'll be right back.

00:30:11.380 Human events daily, the global strategy session.

00:30:22.500 And Jack, where's Jack?

00:30:25.460 Where's Jack?

00:30:26.340 Jack. Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.

00:30:32.660 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do.

00:30:36.100 You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad,

00:30:39.860 but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting Pulisic.

00:30:43.300 Okay. Jack's back live, the global strategy session, global, globalist American empire or

00:30:50.900 American Republic. And we're on with the professor himself, Darren Beattie of Revolver News there.

00:30:57.060 And, uh, well, I just want to close off what I was saying there. And so one of the things that I,

00:31:01.460 I really learned in the, uh, you know, spending time in China was to say that, you know, the Chinese

00:31:08.100 government, they sure you can point to them. And, and, and we do quite frequently talk about

00:31:13.940 how they, they mistreatment of various parts of their society, but they really do do things that

00:31:19.220 are in the interest of China. They actually do think quite seriously and take very seriously how

00:31:26.900 they want to progress their country. They have these plans, they lay them out and then they,

00:31:31.620 they do them. And when they look at global trade, that's exactly what they look at. And you could say,

00:31:36.420 well, they're exploiting American workers. Of course they are. And they're exploiting their

00:31:40.180 own workers to achieve a comparative advantage. Of course they are, because that is the most effective

00:31:46.260 thing for them to do. And oh, by the way, when you look at the way world affairs have gone since 2022,

00:31:53.380 uh, clearly, uh, China in, in many ways is simply benefiting by not, not getting involved in any of

00:31:59.620 this nonsense that you see going on and, but also not cutting themselves off with Russia. So Russia 0.84

00:32:06.660 has to come to them as sort of a lender of last resort, um, type of situation. And, and boom,

00:32:12.420 there you go. You have, you have this BRICS block, which, you know, isn't necessarily as Darren,

00:32:17.300 you said, isn't about to overtake the United States and the Anglo American sphere, but it's certainly

00:32:22.900 emergent as a, uh, as a, as a real entity. And so the biggest thing that I learned coming out of

00:32:30.180 China is why is it that when I look at Washington DC and I go throughout Washington DC, we spend so 1.00

00:32:37.620 much time and everyone spends time, uh, obsessed with the wellbeing of people who don't live in our

00:32:45.460 country and nothing about the people who do live here. And none of these actions are done for the

00:32:51.940 benefit of America. They're done based on these various delusions that you outlined. And so the

00:32:57.380 biggest thing I guess I learned was why can't we have a brand of healthy regard for our own country

00:33:05.860 and our own actual interests? Yeah, that's a great, that's a great question. And it's just an interesting

00:33:15.220 mix of, um, greed, corruption, and delusional fanatical, um, ideology in many cases, um, that applies to the

00:33:27.460 Middle East to some degree, it applies to Russia and increasingly applies to China. You know, the, the thing

00:33:34.340 about China that's, you know, you put so well is the Chinese government delivered a massive increase in

00:33:41.060 standard of living. In fact, they created thriving cities where 20, 30 years ago, there was literally

00:33:48.100 nothing. And so it's an authoritarian system. It's the worst surveillance state in the world outside,

00:33:55.460 perhaps of the UK, which might be on an even footing at this point. But the thing is the people get

00:34:03.220 something out of that. They have their liberties restricted, and they never really had liberties to

00:34:09.140 begin with that they in their historical memory, so it's less of an injury even there. But they get a lot of

00:34:16.180 value for it. They get, um, material well-being, they get increased standard of living, whereas the

00:34:23.620 circumstance in the United States, as I've described, is really the worst of both worlds. We have unprecedented

00:34:30.180 encroachments on our liberty, but we still have filthy and dangerous streets where our living is

00:34:40.820 plummeting. So it's this perverse combination of, at least if you're going to restrict our liberties,

00:34:47.220 have an incombinant increase in standard of living. But no, we have the worst of both worlds.

00:34:53.300 That's really kind of the problem. But then on the flip side of that, I would say the Chinese pragmatism, 0.77

00:35:00.980 which has served them so well. So you put it using the communist ideology as a skin suit. I say there, 0.87

00:35:08.660 China is no more communist than America is a liberal democracy at this point.

00:35:14.420 Do you know, um, that's, that's correct. Do you know Xi Jinping, or excuse me, Deng Xiaoping's famous

00:35:20.180 phrase on this? When they asked him if China is still socialist, he responded, uh, it doesn't matter

00:35:27.060 if a cat is white or black. It only matters if it catches mice. Correct. And that, that pragmatism has

00:35:34.980 served China very well, but it's also the ceiling. And this gets back to what I was saying earlier,

00:35:42.100 China is utterly lacking in any kind of global appeal or global charisma. And part of that is that 0.99

00:35:51.300 there's, you know, nobody is really entranced or enchanted by simple pragmatism. And so in a way,

00:36:00.260 the fact that America and the Anglo-American world is very much almost by necessity, by nature, driven by 0.61

00:36:08.500 by ideologies of universal appeal, driven by sort of cultural expression of universal appeal,

00:36:16.420 all of these things, which happened to be poisoned very deeply. But it is also the reason that America

00:36:24.580 can exert influence on the world in the way that China never could. And so,

00:36:29.220 Darren, when I, when I go, and I'm one of the last people, I guess, who actually looks at newsstands,

00:36:35.060 and I look at the New York Times cover every morning, I look at the Washington Post, the Wall

00:36:38.500 Street Journal, and then I'll look at those like novels and that, that they're put there, those,

00:36:43.940 those like dime store paperback novels. And it all seems to be, it's all about, it's either Russia 0.56

00:36:49.700 or the Middle East, Russia or the Middle East, all day long. If you're just some, some guy who's working

00:36:58.100 a job out in Ohio, or in Southern Maine, or any part of the United States, of what interest is that

00:37:07.540 to you? Of what direct interest is it to that story? And you'll see these stories as well in local

00:37:14.500 newspapers. And it's something where, you know, I don't know, maybe I have to take it up with the

00:37:20.420 estate of Tom Clancy, or I guess maybe like Jack Carr these days, and some of these other novelists,

00:37:25.460 where it's like, you're right, though, it is these fanciful notions of universal appeal

00:37:30.420 that really lead a lot of people down these paths. So we are the heroes, it's our job to save the world

00:37:36.900 from itself. It's our job to defend the world against these nefarious, I don't know, cartoonish

00:37:44.180 notions of the czar or the chairman is about to suddenly take over whatever. And it's it's

00:37:51.460 while we wallow in these fanciful notions, our own cities and our own infrastructure is crumbling,

00:37:58.660 literally, the bridge just collapsed in Baltimore Harbor, one of the biggest ports of the United

00:38:03.620 States, the federal government is bailing it out. And they might not even call it the Francis Scott

00:38:08.180 key bridge anymore on the site where the star spangled banner itself was written. And yet

00:38:14.020 nobody seems to put all of this together. Yeah, I mean, infrastructure is obviously a big one. And

00:38:20.500 that should frankly, also be just a basic metric of success in governance is do we have, it's another

00:38:28.420 thing that China has done pretty well. We have crumbling infrastructure, you know, obviously,

00:38:35.380 there are reasons for that our infrastructure is built before China. So it's easier to build

00:38:39.780 everything anew, but still, the amount of money that we've dedicated to it, and what we've gotten

00:38:46.580 out of it is simply scandalous. And so these are just the basic, the basic things, but sometimes the

00:38:53.620 basic things matter the most. So we've had all of these in curtailments of our liberties. And we don't

00:38:59.700 even have, you know, working bridges, we don't have working infrastructure in the way that we should.

00:39:05.380 And so, but just going back to this point about, you know, peoples cannot ultimately change their 0.62

00:39:13.540 natures, we are what we are, we are a certain way, the Chinese are a certain way, I think the Anglo 0.96

00:39:21.540 American spirit will always be animated by some degree of universal, universalism and universal appeal,

00:39:29.140 which is why it's been so dominant and successful in many ways. The problem is

00:39:33.460 that universal ideology and message is so corrupted and poisonous. And so the best case would be is if

00:39:40.500 we can go and kind of extract the poison from it and maintain the global charisma and appeal,

00:39:48.100 that puts us in a better position than even China, whose pragmatism, again, has served them well up to 0.97

00:39:53.540 a point, but it prevents them from achieving that kind of level of global influence that the West has

00:40:00.900 been able to attain. And I think that's right. And I think there is a and that would probably have to

00:40:08.820 be the subject for another episode about the differences in the cultures, the differences

00:40:13.860 in the civilizations that produces that. But as we go out, and I want to get to our final segment here,

00:40:19.620 let's, let's close all this out and talk about how America can build itself and rebuild itself

00:40:27.700 and rediscover itself next year.

00:40:32.980 Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.

00:40:44.980 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:40:49.060 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you. Amen.

00:40:52.580 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back. Final segment, Darren B.D., the global strategy session.

00:41:00.980 So, Darren, we've we've gone kind of all the way around the world. We've gone from

00:41:05.780 Philadelphia in 1776 to the Beijing Olympics, as it were, of 2008, which is really China's sort of

00:41:14.740 coming out party on the international stage. And I would agree with you that while China has

00:41:19.060 and man, we're gonna have to do a whole episode on on why China has has hit a ceiling and why why

00:41:26.260 other countries aren't don't have that ceiling in other civilizations, but or civilization states, 0.96

00:41:32.420 as it were. We are not China. We are America. Our culture is different. Our demographics are

00:41:40.420 different. Our people are different. Our history is different. I don't believe that we have that same

00:41:45.380 kind of ceiling. And if we can get pragmatically the way forward, I'm just going to say the easiest

00:41:51.540 way to put it is take a look at what Elon Musk is doing. Look at what he is promoting. You don't

00:41:58.660 have to agree with every single thing he says, but the way he thinks of advancement and true progress,

00:42:07.380 I feel offers a true way ahead for so many of us on these issues.

00:42:14.260 Absolutely. You know, it's Elon, both Elon and Donald Trump are sort of quintessential

00:42:20.740 American success stories. I think Trump is the most American expression of being you can

00:42:27.380 ever think of that was instantiated in one person. Musk, obviously, in some respects,

00:42:34.180 as a foreigner, people, you know, kind of jokingly, but accurately say African American. And I think

00:42:40.660 in some ways, these, you know, Africans like, like Elon, and you know, a lot of the

00:42:48.660 PayPal crowd has some sort of provenance in Africa. I think that makes sense. Because again, these,

00:42:56.820 these African outposts embody some of that frontier spirit that has dulled a bit in the United States.

00:43:08.580 So I don't think it's simply accidental that a lot of these extremely successful entrepreneurs,

00:43:14.580 like Elon Musk, have some kind of African connection as sort of the last frontier as it,

00:43:22.900 as it were. But in any case, these are two figures who would not have been able to achieve their natural

00:43:31.700 expression in any other context, but that of the United States of America certainly could not have

00:43:38.340 happened in China, but it couldn't have happened in Europe either. Europe is almost equally antithetical

00:43:45.380 to the full expression of this human type. And I think this is the most encouraging development

00:43:51.140 we've seen in this country in a long time. If any configuration, if any kind of constellation

00:43:58.260 or alignment could produce the conditions for American, not only just American supremacy,

00:44:05.540 but for American flourishing of the American people, it's this combination of Donald Trump

00:44:12.260 and Elon Musk. So we'll have to see what happens. There's a lot of work to be done,

00:44:16.820 but I'm cautiously optimistic about the outcome.

00:44:20.900 No, I would be cautiously optimistic as well. And, and I love the idea of thinking forward.

00:44:26.340 Um, our, our, our destiny should be the stars. Our destiny should be this idea that America and our

00:44:37.380 civilization can, we hit the moon once. All right. We just did. Sorry, Alex Stein. We did. And then we,

00:44:43.860 and then we kind of stopped and we decided that rather than continue past the moon or to do anything

00:44:50.580 else on the moon, we would get involved in, uh, Eurasia. And then we would invade the Middle East.

00:44:58.180 And we would forget about Mars and we would forget about space exploration. And we would just sort of,

00:45:03.780 we would just sort of give up. And I think that's wrong. And I think it's nearsighted.

00:45:07.780 And I think that the people who are against these things don't have that ultimate sense

00:45:14.100 of vision and that ultimate sense of understanding the possibilities of what could be. And there are

00:45:22.340 times when you don't know what could be, you don't realize what, uh, what could happen, but you do things

00:45:29.700 things anyway, because you believe in a greater potentiality than simply the, the run of the mill

00:45:37.780 day to day. And so I think that's always been the American spirit. I think that if you look at the

00:45:44.660 history of the 1960s, I think that that had a lot to do with taking that spirit away. I think that the

00:45:51.700 cold war, uh, paid a huge legacy on America and both materially and psychologically that we're

00:45:59.780 still, still dealing with. And there's a lot of baggage of the cold war that not necessarily trauma,

00:46:04.660 but I'll call it baggage because that's what it is that we are still working through in our

00:46:10.180 government. And even you get these, uh, you know, these, these 40 year old and 30 year old cold

00:46:15.940 warriors that didn't even go through the thing. And yet they're still fighting the cold war. It's like,

00:46:20.420 guys, the, it is not the 1990s anymore. It is certainly not the 1980s. I want to bring the

00:46:25.940 eighties back, but you know, not, not all of it, but, uh, you know, just our final couple of minutes,

00:46:31.060 Darren Beattie to you, how would you sum it up? Well, I agree. And I think one of the laudable

00:46:38.580 aspects of Elon's approach to things is that he's thinking in the longterm, not even necessarily the

00:46:45.700 substance of his goals, but the fact that he's thinking of goals in the broader stretch in

00:46:51.540 civilizational terms of saying, okay, my goal is to be a space faring people. How do we set that up?

00:46:59.060 Is this consistent with the delusion or what he calls the woke mind virus and all of these things?

00:47:05.060 And he works from there. He backwards engineers from, from the goal and he's thinking in long

00:47:11.140 terms. And that's, that alone is, is somewhat radical for, you know, people in the American

00:47:18.420 economy, business people, most, most of the American economy and people at, at, you know,

00:47:23.380 in managerial positions, at least they're just thinking until the next earnings report or

00:47:30.020 entrepreneurs are just thinking, oh, how do I build this up just to the degree that,

00:47:35.540 you know, some bigger entity can acquire us. You know, nobody's thinking really in those longer

00:47:41.300 term, you know, ambitious contexts. And that's, again, that's something that's critical. It's,

00:47:47.460 it's an advantage that the deep state has. That's one of its defining features is that it can make

00:47:52.340 long-term plans. And so I think it's very encouraging to see Elon having this kind of long-term vision,

00:47:58.580 because I think that is critical for long-term success. Long-term vision for America and for

00:48:06.180 American success. This is your global strategy session with Jack Posobiec and the professor,

00:48:11.620 Darren Beattie. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 03, 2025

STRATEGY SESSION： Global Empire or American Republic w⧸ Darren Beattie

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