Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Sunday Special： Behind the Border Battle

00:00:00.000 ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to this very special sunday edition human events sunday special

00:00:17.320 where we're essentially conducting a panel today for the border battle docuseries which

00:00:24.640 just completed now its full run is available on salem now we're working on getting it up on all

00:00:29.600 platforms but what i've got is a special treat for all of you because we've got the director of border

00:00:35.140 battle as well as two of the stars of the docuseries that are here today to tell us a little

00:00:40.780 bit about it what it was like making it and really give us some solutions about what to do moving

00:00:46.020 forward when it comes to the border so without further ado um you know just want to introduce

00:00:50.960 you guys and let people know we've got bryce eddie we've got marcus wada we've got steve slachevic so

00:00:56.240 uh marcus tell us a little about yourself and how'd you get involved the project

00:00:59.540 yes um i met with turning point back in february um mark lamb sheriff mark lamb in pinal county arizona

00:01:08.260 uh was so kind to introduce us uh kent and myself um to charlie and marina uh the producers of the

00:01:15.640 project and really pour out their hearts on exactly why they believe the border is a huge issue in

00:01:22.240 america and i always believed it was um you know coming from my own uh viewpoint but when they

00:01:29.680 introduced to me the depth and um the heart behind it i was shocked and then i began to do research and

00:01:37.980 um you know just amazed exactly how much input that charlie and marina both had and all the

00:01:44.300 information that they were able to handle and being plugged in with guys like bryce steve

00:01:49.540 sheriff mark lamb jason jones um assistant chief at um texas uh texas dps and stacy holland

00:01:57.680 just been blessed by all these guys and really all the information and heart they have for

00:02:02.640 keeping their community safe um and the border so yeah that's kind of how it all started back

00:02:08.560 in february and then we embarked on a journey to uh go down to arizona first arizona borders

00:02:14.040 in cochise county and then travel all across america whether it's washington dc where i met

00:02:18.880 you first jack uh to los angeles all the way to texas and really around the whole world so it's

00:02:25.540 been an amazing journey amen amen so bryce eddie executive with covered six security you've also

00:02:31.280 got your show tell us a little bit about yourself what's your background yeah thank you so um you know

00:02:36.700 our firm is a security consulting firm and vocational training school for military veterans and so we

00:02:42.420 were taking quite a few trips down there um with a number of different people to kind of assess what

00:02:48.140 was going on and you know we're we're close to charlie and his organization from a consulting

00:02:53.500 perspective and uh you know kind of put our heads together as to what the issue is and some time with

00:03:00.780 the sheriff's departments and everything down there to figure out what needs to be done and then got

00:03:06.120 invited to participate in this project both as a security for the camera crew and also to do

00:03:12.980 operations embedded with the sheriff's departments down there and it was a wild ride i gotta tell you

00:03:20.360 no absolutely and then steve same question just to give the audience a little bit about your

00:03:25.020 background a little bit by way of introducing yourself yeah so i've been running a disaster management

00:03:30.540 company for a little over 30 years and i do well that was one big disaster management scenario but

00:03:37.200 when um when the situation started changing at the border i have personal friends that are border patrol

00:03:42.240 and border sheriffs and i was asking them about some of the trouble some of the issues that they uh they

00:03:47.420 were encountering and simply i operate from a space of solutions you know everything from disaster

00:03:52.520 planning disaster response and the recovery aspect of it so i was basically applying the same

00:03:58.300 information and having some of the best drone technologies and some of the best drone pilots

00:04:04.180 that uh that we do in pre and post storm situations urban search and rescue type scenarios i just saw that

00:04:11.720 there would be a great fit for us to assist them um in the process uh bringing them the tools technology

00:04:18.540 that's at the very cutting edge to just be a big support on that aspect of it so i'm a person who sees a

00:04:24.560 need and my job simply to fill it to be in service and that's what we did now absolutely and obviously

00:04:30.360 that's strategic response partners there now marcus what was it like integrating them so obviously

00:04:35.020 your background is more in terms of media production and and film but what was it like embedding with

00:04:41.740 these groups with bryce and steve and then working them into your team yeah i mean absolutely it was

00:04:48.220 humbling um seeing the level of expertise that each team demonstrated um covered six and their

00:04:55.240 knowledge and just the way that they're able to assess situations and really break down um not only

00:05:00.940 like identifying what the problem is but also coming up with solutions as we'll get into later um but just

00:05:07.000 watching them coordinate uh whether it was setting up uh different locations with the sheriff departments

00:05:12.000 in pinal county uh down in yuma and watching them really at a high level organize this structure

00:05:18.400 um you know i've been travel i've traveled all over the world uh philippines japan china korea

00:05:23.860 doing different productions and it was really humbling to see what a high level caliber um that this team

00:05:31.620 does it really i don't think those many productions uh can do so i i was able to glean a lot of wisdom

00:05:36.620 from them and then just utilizing the amazing technology that steve and his team and really i

00:05:42.660 mean outside of just the the coordination with covered six and the amazing technology just people

00:05:47.720 in general these guys are just great so i was able to learn so much in terms of their expertise on the

00:05:53.900 border and uh really just utilizing and running their teams really well so it was very humbling and very

00:05:59.520 happy yeah yeah absolutely now bryce you mentioned something and and guys feel feel free to chat you

00:06:04.360 know i don't want this to be some you know thing where i'm just barking uh barking questions out

00:06:08.480 there but but bryce you did mention something about running operations with the sheriffs you

00:06:12.860 know what what was that are you able to tell us at all about what type of operations those were or what

00:06:17.340 can you tell us about that yeah sure so you know uh the amazing thing with these sheriff's departments

00:06:24.140 down there um you know they know what's happening in great detail and they know where people are

00:06:30.700 coming in they know what the problem is and can identify it and have some resources but they don't

00:06:36.480 have all the resources to do some of the things that are kind of off the beaten path for instance we did

00:06:42.560 night operations where we were going through the areas in which they were trafficking fentanyl you know

00:06:49.260 the the folks with the carpet shoes a lot of this is shown in the documentary so it's really compelling

00:06:54.520 to watch you know where people are coming in we were also able to you know be there at the moments

00:07:01.120 where people were just walking across the border down in yuma and all of that um in some previous things

00:07:08.180 that didn't make it on film because this was prior to the the project we had actually rescued human

00:07:14.580 trafficked individuals and there's a really some amazing things that we witnessed both before

00:07:21.520 production and then also during the production such as the forward operating bases that the cartels have

00:07:28.660 on our soil and things like that well let me walk me through that real quick you're you're rescuing

00:07:33.940 someone does that mean you're actually getting them out from one of these traffic situations or is it

00:07:38.380 kind of like these stories i think we had that national guardsman who he drowned when he was trying

00:07:42.560 to rescue someone in the river but you're not talking about uh in those situations you mean actually

00:07:46.440 getting them out from the traffickers right yeah that's correct and being able to hand them you

00:07:51.920 know over to border patrol and and you know get them to to safety um we witnessed things that were

00:07:57.900 absolutely horrible that did make it into the film such as the rape trees and i talk about that a

00:08:03.740 little bit um i think the first episode and stuff like that to witness that i mean it makes you want

00:08:11.140 to throw up the stuff that's going on that we're willfully letting go on it should not be a partisan

00:08:17.600 issue it should not be a political issue it's just uh i believe a real attack on our sovereignty

00:08:23.960 and we need some moral clarity about this thing no i couldn't agree more steve let me let me throw the

00:08:29.860 same question at you was there anything that you thought that um that didn't quite make it onto screen

00:08:35.940 in the docuseries that you think people really need to understand about what yeah specifically with

00:08:41.060 what you do there was a lot of scenarios and you know bryce brings up one area that that we noticed

00:08:49.540 over and over again and this is working with the different border sheriffs from arizona all the way down

00:08:54.920 to la jolla uh texas you know um the the um the border patrol the border sheriffs were a completely

00:09:05.900 overwhelmed i mean there was there was on one of the missions where they had flown the helicopter

00:09:11.480 over one area there was they they basically cleared the area there was nothing there they got a whole

00:09:17.840 group of migrants crossing over it i'm communicating with the border uh with the border patrol and he's

00:09:22.920 telling me that they're moving all their assets to this one area because they got a massive group

00:09:26.920 that's crossing over so we swung to the right and started you know scanning that area and picked up

00:09:34.020 six drug traffickers running through the area and were able to shed the coordinates to split a small

00:09:38.920 team off to go grab those those individuals and then as they were dropping the bags as they were

00:09:43.360 getting arrested we had everything with high res definition exactly every gps waypoint as to where

00:09:49.400 they're at but there was a time where we caught a group of 20 the 20 groups split into 12 and 8

00:09:55.980 and the the the border the border sheriff's calling every one of his guys and he was tapped out and he

00:10:03.780 turns over to my drone team and a couple other security guys that we had and we've done multiple

00:10:08.440 stuff with covered six but they turned and they said hey can you help us right and in that situation

00:10:13.960 we're jumping in the vehicle ripping down the highway going down this back road climbing a 14-foot

00:10:19.540 fence while my drone team's on calm saying go 100 yards right go 50 yards left right there

00:10:25.660 stop right there hold on hold on hold surround that area stay in the dark lights out the drones

00:10:30.140 are all above them they don't realize that there's a a thermal high-res drone completely opted out

00:10:35.680 it's completely dark ultra quiet so you don't hear nothing and then the the the the sheriff that was

00:10:43.340 with us he goes okay light them up so the drone comes down spotlights come on this all gets really

00:10:48.100 loud and everyone's surrounding these guys and they're shorthanded so they're trying to cuff them

00:10:53.060 right there on the ground as quick as they can and then also one person trying to run one way

00:10:59.020 one person trying to run the other way they realize that they're cuffed already because it's a shock and

00:11:02.960 all right but the need for the private security aspect of it because they're overwhelmed and they're

00:11:09.760 looking for people that are trained that can actually assist in those type of scenarios really

00:11:14.280 just think it helps the border it's a huge liability it's a life safety matter

00:11:18.820 um i can't tell you how overwhelmed they are um there's times that me and bryce were with the

00:11:26.700 with the covered six group srp marcus was there and they have 60 70 people that come across a border

00:11:32.880 crossing and they're standing there for what seven eight hours waiting for border patrol to show up with

00:11:37.400 buses and people are wandering off i mean you walk across 50 yards you can grab an uber let me let me

00:11:44.720 hold that thought right there we're coming up on our very first break but i want to get into this

00:11:49.800 more right after the break uh we're here with the behind the border battle panel here on human events

00:11:57.160 sunday special stay tuned because we're going to hear more about this saving lives tracking the

00:12:02.680 traffickers in real time across the border capturing it turning point usa stay tuned we will be right back

00:12:09.660 okay and we're back for the behind the border battle special here on human events and right as

00:12:19.940 we left steve you were telling us this harrowing story of using your drones but then also you in

00:12:26.400 real time tracking migrants and a group of them coming across illegally on the border we had just

00:12:32.940 gotten to the point where they started to be arrested they were starting to run away didn't even

00:12:36.580 realize that they were in handcuffs when i was in the military we used to call that shock of capture

00:12:40.740 so you're in that shock of capture phase they don't even realize what's going on yet you know you might

00:12:45.800 start firing you know back then because if you're doing interrogations that you fire off the questions

00:12:50.100 at them they don't even realize you know kind of what's going on tell me what what what happened next

00:12:55.060 what happened next in terms of that um that encounter well one of the things is obviously once

00:12:59.960 getting getting into the encounter there's a lot of stuff that was done pre right we're watching them

00:13:04.080 walk we're watching them go a little ways hide lay down you know they're not sure if they're being

00:13:08.400 tracked or not um you're able to see the detail of whether they're carrying a weapon on them how their

00:13:13.980 clothes are moving a lot of intel is being done about how they're moving what type of what type of

00:13:18.260 weapons do you see what type of weapons do you see down there oh listen let me let me answer that

00:13:23.700 because it's it's they are they are well outfitted jack i mean they they were not just

00:13:30.380 you know having um you know pistols and rifles they were having the best pistols and rifles

00:13:37.360 these guys in some cases they had ak-47s but you saw a lot of ar-15s we're talking full kits so they 0.93

00:13:45.600 they were we're wearing plate carriers i mean this is a parallel military there uh in terms of the cartel

00:13:53.280 the people that are crossing over the border that are being trafficked or paying the cartel to get across

00:14:00.160 are are coming you know with their gear backpacks all that you know walking across uh you know

00:14:05.780 changing their shoes you know it depends on the scenario but it was amazing to witness the sheer

00:14:11.440 scale of the operation that they have going on you see i don't think people realize that because you

00:14:16.340 know and go back to steve to your story and i didn't mean to cut you off there but it it seems to

00:14:20.680 me that we hear that oh these are just people who are searching for a better life they're just looking

00:14:25.300 for economic um you know some some better situations for themselves for their families

00:14:30.120 we're not hearing stories about people coming across the plate carriers and ar-15s and ak-47s

00:14:34.800 unless it's you know the fast and furious scandal and then they don't even talk about it for 10 years

00:14:38.700 yeah no if i could interject this uh it's amazing to see exactly what you're talking about bryce and

00:14:44.380 steve and it's uh there are families coming over that's not the issue though the biggest issue is

00:14:50.020 that criminals like part of this paramilitary group with these cartels not only the pistols not

00:14:56.360 only automatic machine guns you're talking about like full-size tanks that they have at their disposal

00:15:01.000 um these these militia groups aren't militias like how you think about here they are literally as

00:15:07.700 strong if not stronger than the marines in mexico these people are absolutely terrorists it is not

00:15:13.600 this i don't know i don't know backwoods militia group just selling drugs in the mountains

00:15:19.520 these guys are organized more more intelligent than you think when you make over 24 billion

00:15:25.260 dollars per month off of human trafficking you have a lot of money at your disposal for the best

00:15:30.340 intel for intel that our military or our government systems who don't communicate well together

00:15:35.680 are not able to match because we have restrictions we obey laws our um you know the texas dps for

00:15:43.420 example they cannot just dispose of their drones the way that the cartel can they're like oh

00:15:47.920 13 000 drone we're gonna fly that into your drone they don't think about it the same way they have

00:15:53.180 scouts with sniper rifles on the other side of the mountain i've seen it in cochise county on the other

00:15:58.320 side they have this camp set up where a sniper a sniper will actually be there making sure that

00:16:03.940 other rip crews in arizona will not rip off a uh something they're trying to smuggle over these

00:16:09.660 aren't family units these are absolutely when you say a crew that the idea of a rip crew is that

00:16:14.580 somebody who's who's looking for one of these um one of these basically like uh what would you call

00:16:19.460 it like a train or a caravan one of these groups to come over and then hit them like like basically

00:16:23.980 you're basically talking wild wild west banditry like the same way it's been there for 200 years

00:16:28.420 exactly oh yeah yeah go ahead bruce and i yeah i mentioned um at the very beginning and kind of hit it

00:16:36.560 passing but i want to focus on this we have forward operating bases the the cartel is on our soil with

00:16:44.900 forward operating bases right now we witnessed them we saw them uh when we went down during the

00:16:51.120 daytime the first time when we were scouting locations in yuma we could see them we felt the

00:16:57.040 hair on the back of our necks at first uh stand up and then you know glass the areas and we could see

00:17:02.660 them in the distance and it was on our soil that's that's one of the things that people need to

00:17:07.140 understand the second thing about that is is here in california where i'm at we have desert cities

00:17:13.080 that are actually dominated by the cartels and run by the cartels to the point that local politicians

00:17:19.500 are terrified of them now you're saying and and and i want to be clear about this and and steve back to

00:17:25.680 you as well that this is happening on our side of the border this isn't in mexico where we're talking

00:17:30.480 about these cartels that that control you know these vast swassa territory they're uh just south

00:17:35.700 of the borders of the northern northern you know basically tier of mexico you're talking about on

00:17:40.000 american soil all this is going on steve uh when you're working with these sheriffs i mean are they

00:17:45.100 they're all aware of this they understand this is going on but it speaks to what you were saying

00:17:48.900 about them being overwhelmed yeah i mean they're they're they're the sheriff's department's not only

00:17:53.400 being overwhelmed they're getting played because when they're sitting at the top of these mountain peaks

00:17:57.220 mountain ranges and they have the the range finders and they have these these the the scopes we're

00:18:02.780 running our own scope so we have our own our own scopes are are you know that that have a long

00:18:07.380 range stuff on it we can actually see them looking at us and so they're giving comms to their people

00:18:11.980 going through that area to come across or they're smuggling drugs whatever else and there's many times

00:18:17.000 we're working our drones and there's no pattern that we do and so we'll get on top of these guys and

00:18:21.720 they're in full camel they'll drop down in the grass like whatever that's at they'll lay there and then

00:18:26.520 you see them on the phones talking to the scout on the mountaintop hey i got a drone on top of me

00:18:31.860 which way do i go you know meanwhile they know exactly when the border patrol comes in when their

00:18:37.920 shift changes are when the the border sheriffs how they're moving where their truck is the dust trails

00:18:42.740 so they stop move people all around that it's like a coordinated uh trafficked route that has scouts and

00:18:49.000 like this full-blown logistical operation i mean that sounds like that sounds like like a military unit

00:18:55.120 basically that sounds like a military unit movement operation like the same type of stuff i trained on

00:18:59.640 uh when i was in the military that to me sounds like where you're using to your point right you've got

00:19:05.380 um you've got aerial you've got overhead you've got your own drones you got your own scouts i mean you're

00:19:10.200 not talking about this isn't a couple of people just you know crossing the river no this isn't this is a

00:19:15.340 military operation that's exactly what it is yeah that's exactly what it is it's difficult for them to get

00:19:21.180 into those areas they know that right so by the time the border sheriffs try to get up into a mountain

00:19:25.780 range where they're at they simply track across it they're they're they're across the border mexico

00:19:30.020 the sheriff leaves it's almost like they they know that they can't get to them so they just move back

00:19:34.340 into the area and it's the terrain's very difficult and there's routes that are not being patrolled by

00:19:40.560 anybody and they they know what those routes are when to move through those sectors and go undetected

00:19:45.320 yeah and with their overwatch you know all they have to do is warn them when they see the lights

00:19:51.820 of the sheriff's department the dust and you know anything coming their way border patrol agents and

00:19:57.160 they can run them off we should talk about the border patrol agents for a moment because i i feel bad

00:20:02.720 for those guys those guys are despondent and demoralized because they could if again there was

00:20:09.220 political will they could solve this problem and most of them are hamstrung because of what's

00:20:14.920 happening now and that political temperature that we have i think this is an attack on our

00:20:20.500 sovereignty as a nation and these guys are unable to do what their whole entire purpose is and it's a

00:20:28.800 it's sad to see some of that i know we we put into the the docuseries but a lot of it just the exchanges

00:20:36.720 we had friendly with these border patrol agents as we're walking around prior to filming or in the

00:20:43.420 middle of shoots they're they were telling us all kinds of heartbreaking things well what give me

00:20:47.960 give me an example we got a couple of minutes well give me an example of something they would say

00:20:51.000 yeah yeah we we interviewed um specifically somebody we did not want to um cause them to

00:21:00.160 lose their job so we did put them in a situation where you know the voice was the whistleblower so

00:21:05.300 that this is the episode where we have the the whistleblower i think the interview plays in a

00:21:09.760 couple episodes but this is the whistleblower who was in the silhouette go ahead correct he's in

00:21:14.240 episodes one two and five i'm just hearing exactly um how evil it is the way that they're not limited

00:21:21.680 or the way they are limited to do their job they are very capable from 2016 to 2020 they were very

00:21:27.340 capable at the job then all of a sudden 2021 on all of a sudden they're inept it doesn't make sense

00:21:32.960 so but these people are going through it they're seeing dead bodies at a record rate um i believe

00:21:39.120 it was over 2 000 recovered dead bodies in the state of texas um and because of cold because of

00:21:44.060 conditions that you know we're allowing people to come in and we're allowing criminals to make their

00:21:49.180 way in but in disposing of family units they're utilizing families as a distraction so the biggest

00:21:55.560 problem that we have isn't um the border patrols and capabilities they're capable people these are

00:22:02.040 professionals that want to take care of their community these people are very capable at

00:22:06.780 everything they do if you watch any of their films in the way that they're trained they're military

00:22:11.940 level talent the problem is the way that they're being handcuffed right now and just used as a

00:22:17.360 professional uber service where they're taxing people being inundated into certain areas where the

00:22:22.800 cartels know we're going to send in family units over here to distract them and to utilize our

00:22:28.840 capabilities to say hey okay here's here's where the family units go i have a friend that's

00:22:32.540 interviewed in episodes one and and two um hot neil um he made his way over he's a cuban refugee

00:22:38.420 and went through and the cartel was the one organizing he found out and you know treated like raw pieces of

00:22:45.680 meat not caring he witnessed people raped coming up through mexico he witnessed people just being killed

00:22:51.740 just because again these people are cargo if you're not going to obey his cargo you're going to be

00:22:56.640 terminated so these these border patrol agents are being inundated and they're being distracted to

00:23:02.020 take care of these ports of entry or uh different places where it's safer for family units to travel

00:23:07.000 while the cartels are going to the other side and using what you call bonsai runs they send in family

00:23:13.240 units 20 to 100 people and then they boom they'll go through a gate they'll cut a fence and then now

00:23:19.160 you have drugs pouring into our country at a record rate so if they send the family units to one side

00:23:23.680 and we've only got a minute here till the break but they'll send the family units to one side wait

00:23:27.320 for the border patrol to respond trigger that response which steve you were just talking about

00:23:31.760 and then bang they'll hit this other route as they know the people are going over there and that's

00:23:36.600 where the drugs are coming in that's where other trafficked um just you know obviously you know

00:23:40.340 military age males and the rest are coming through correct the situation on our border it's completely 1.00

00:23:45.680 insane um i i don't think people realize you you guys you're not talking about some

00:23:51.160 you know some little low-level issue this isn't street gangs this is a military operation what

00:23:57.220 we're talking about here is a war it's a war with a trans national parallel military organization

00:24:03.700 multiple organizations that's going on on our border every day and the border patrol agents

00:24:09.660 they're not given the ability to actually fight it the way they should stay tuned we'll be right back

00:24:14.920 behind the border battle continues

00:24:17.060 jack posobiec we're back here behind the border battle i'm joined by marcus wada bryce eddie steve

00:24:27.420 slichevic and we're talking about behind the border battle the stories that didn't quite make the cut

00:24:32.580 for the border battle series available salem now and all platforms of course we're also summarizing a lot

00:24:39.420 of what goes on we're talking right now about the morale issues for our border patrol under this

00:24:44.220 biden regime the fact that it's an attack on our sovereignty and they're not given the ability

00:24:49.960 to do the job that they are capable of doing marcus we were just talking a little bit during the break

00:24:54.560 that you're actually seeing now the child trafficking that's going on across the border tell us about

00:25:00.220 that that's correct it is absolutely disheartening as a father of six myself you're witnessing countless

00:25:07.840 children coming in with people that are not their parents not their family members when we were

00:25:14.100 there with coverage six and with srp we witnessed many people who had children that look absolutely

00:25:19.840 nothing like them and not only that i have a friend in border patrol that told me a story that

00:25:25.400 absolutely sent chills down my spine and still does when i think about it but they recovered a three-year-old

00:25:30.900 at the border who's been dumped and actually documented many times of crossing the border with different

00:25:35.660 family units and when they found her she had a phone number and address attached to her kind of just

00:25:41.380 like you would a cattle registered if you will and so the border patrol agent took her back into the

00:25:47.640 border patrol where they register everybody and a woman came who wasn't called and woman came and

00:25:53.360 asked for her she had a piece of paper with the document and a picture of the girl and said that it

00:25:58.180 was her niece the girl did not want to be released to this woman the border patrol agent had no other

00:26:05.080 option because under the regulations and how they operate now if it is a claimed family member which

00:26:11.060 there is no check this girl did not have an id um did not respond to a name the border patrol agent had

00:26:17.560 to give her up and that border patrol agent still struggles to live with that moment and she he still

00:26:21.940 says he sees her every day in his sleep i mean you you hear some of these towering stories you know

00:26:28.100 steven bryce you know not only with the child trafficking but what are what are some of the other

00:26:32.740 stories these craziest stories that you've heard you know that didn't quite make it into into the

00:26:37.600 cut that didn't make it into the show well there's that 11 year old that got raped multiple times she 1.00

00:26:43.100 came across the border bleeding you know we thought maybe she that she had her period come to find out 0.75

00:26:47.760 there was like seven eight nine different strands of dna they found in her you know when they did the 1.00

00:26:52.440 when they did the the work up on her um the seven nine-year-old that were kidnapped from honduras

00:26:58.580 right um in traffic across the border by two coyotes right i'm a single male my wife left me

00:27:04.920 come to find out those kids weren't even their kids um it's it's it's it's it's sickening um

00:27:12.260 in the thing happens every day excuse me this happens every day um and people just seem to turn

00:27:21.020 a blind eye all the border patrol that we've worked with and at nighttime they're sitting there they're

00:27:24.820 telling me look you got another hit got another hit got another hit we're overwhelmed i can't get

00:27:29.360 to all these so it just if they're overwhelmed they're flooded they're exhausted i'm like how

00:27:36.160 many hours he's like i'm on overtime you know um on multiple runs that we were at i'm like where's

00:27:42.480 the drone team at he goes oh there's a cloud this guy and the drone is just it has this old thermals

00:27:48.220 on it that are four years old it's obsolete we don't really even use it because the drone team

00:27:52.800 even though they're supposed to be doing it they're overwhelmed they're being called in to

00:27:55.980 do apprehension so they can't even effectively do that part of their job um it's been the other

00:28:02.160 horrifying yeah i mean it's just horrible yeah and i mean here the fact that they would that they

00:28:09.360 would allow this to happen with with children and that our government knows about this and and and

00:28:17.120 bryce explain to me this our government knows this is going on and yet they they seem to allow it they

00:28:23.040 seem to enable it why is this happening yeah listen i mean jack i know you talk about this on on your

00:28:29.960 show on a regular basis but this is an attack against our sovereignty and you know if you if you

00:28:35.960 can break our borders then you can you know reimagine them or recreate them in your own image and we

00:28:41.900 have a lot of that going on i think it's driven by uh you know globalist concerns and so you know

00:28:49.200 although they're aware of it they don't care because again we could solve this problem um you know

00:28:55.840 touching on human trafficking real quick the thing that people don't really think about with human

00:29:02.120 trafficking is drugs fentanyl and things like that get used one time but a human being can be used

00:29:09.600 multiple times and that's why it's such a massive industry for the cartels that's why it's something

00:29:15.860 that's so profitable for them but if you think about what they're doing to these folks uh many of them

00:29:22.240 that are coming over have even an expectation that they are going to be raped and abused along the way

00:29:29.740 there was a a cuban girl that we had kind of privately talked to and she was a lawyer

00:29:36.800 and uh came over went through the process trafficked by the cartel to to get over just you know paying

00:29:43.960 them to cross the border and clearly she had been abused and was still in the ptsd of it and uh you

00:29:54.280 know didn't want to lay out the story but you saw in her eyes the horrors that she went through

00:29:59.400 yeah and we'll go ahead marcus yeah no i remember that it still affects me my editor and i uh when

00:30:07.860 reviewing this project this project was a blessing but at the same time it was one of the hardest

00:30:11.940 things i had to deal with uh just emotionally seeing um all the destruction um every day you

00:30:18.260 know eight to eight to 12 hours editing going through the loss going through multiple five-year-old

00:30:23.780 children that i've actually seen tossed aside i was just with the brush team texas dps and la jolla

00:30:30.320 texas and uh we were running through the brush thorns cacti sticking in my leg chasing this individual

00:30:37.460 throws a five-year-old boy and just to to avoid detection and uh i just remember as this woman 0.97

00:30:46.500 claimed it was the father and i was just uh as a man you you kind of want to physically engage

00:30:52.300 um but yeah just just the absolute destruction and that woman what happened a little the kid 0.94

00:30:59.440 was he all right he was okay um the the female that was taking care of him uh got gathered got

00:31:06.520 processed uh by border patrol but um yeah still you know just being tossed aside like that as a five

00:31:12.860 year old i can only imagine the emotional uh damage and if not physical but um how that would stick with

00:31:19.340 you uh being seen as less than human um it has to be ruining so i mean it feels like we're not even

00:31:28.980 you know let's we're talking about the victims of this but you know marcus steve bryce whichever

00:31:35.060 you guys want to take this who who are some of the heroes who are some of the heroes down there

00:31:40.080 you know we talk about the victims but but it it does feel like there are people that are stepping up

00:31:45.080 um obviously yourselves going down there filming running these operations but who are some of the

00:31:50.660 heroes that people can actually look to when it comes to this these two guys uh these two guys are

00:31:55.880 definitely some i'm no joke like i respect them they are amazing uh but sheriff mark lamb um yeah

00:32:02.020 and pinal county arizona sheriff mark daniels down in coches county sheriff leon wilmot down in yuma

00:32:08.320 county um texas dps as a whole uh i got to work with all the way from alpine el paso midland uh la

00:32:16.240 jolla all the way down um to edinburgh uh these guys and and women they all risk their lives daily

00:32:25.740 with with little pay in comparison if you think about the physical um requirements that they have

00:32:30.820 to do but i'm talking about stacy holland uh jason jones who's actually with newsmax and i work with

00:32:35.220 him at newsmax as well um these these guys they put their life on the line every single day

00:32:42.180 no thank yous for the most part maybe a free diner meal every once in a while but these people have

00:32:49.180 families these people have real life relationships and they're they're facing down the barrel daily

00:32:56.580 and um you know i've gotten to go in helicopters with these guys and underground units and uh me and

00:33:02.680 my team and i can tell you like kent and i and ryan we've experienced so many blessings just by seeing

00:33:09.120 the sheer determination these people have to protect the community uh but yeah jason jones as well like i

00:33:14.760 said um and uh stacy holland and texas dps these guys and their whole teams i i'm blown away with the

00:33:21.860 care they have yeah i'll add i'll add to that sorry steve i'll add to that but the um the sheriff's

00:33:30.880 departments without a doubt but also the citizen journalists and like marcus and his team you know

00:33:36.720 he's saying nice things about us but what they're doing to expose this i mean charlie kirk tp usa um

00:33:42.660 you know putting themselves on the line uh marcus put himself in danger um you know he he was down

00:33:48.260 there wearing rifle plates and everything because you know we didn't know exactly what we were going

00:33:51.960 to get into and then you have the drew hernandez of the world the um you know other folks jorge

00:33:57.640 ventura all of these people that have been going down there on their own to expose this stuff and

00:34:03.520 try to get some of these things highlighted those are the heroes right now we need to bust this thing

00:34:08.760 wide open and reveal what's truly going on no i think that's right steve you're going to say

00:34:12.700 something yeah i was just adding to a bryce saying uh sergeant tim williams you know out of

00:34:18.440 cochise county and his saber team incredible right these guys are the unsung heroes and the other people

00:34:24.200 that i want to also is the guys that are quiet they're silent but they're sharing intel from

00:34:29.100 both border patrol and and and uh border sheriffs right um all of them just sharing information on the

00:34:35.460 back end um everybody that's putting their their voice out there who's shown up there is putting

00:34:40.980 their lives at risk these i live 40 miles from the border right we're we're you know along with

00:34:46.760 covered six our names out there right so our families are at risk but you know what we do it for the love

00:34:52.020 of the country and for the fact of just humanity like when you come across these children's these kids

00:34:57.640 who had no choice right and god calls us to be in service so when you step in there and you're

00:35:03.960 intercepting one at a time you've changed the trajectory of that child's life they don't know you

00:35:10.100 they don't know the team members they don't know the sheriffs that showed up there to intercept that

00:35:14.360 situation but these guys get up every single morning and they show up with their hands tied

00:35:19.980 behind their back uh taking all kinds of negative press they can't speak out the border people that

00:35:26.880 live along the border ranches these ranchers that we've talked to where they're cutting their fence

00:35:31.240 they're killing their cattle they're letting their cattle out they're destroying their properties

00:35:34.780 the real estate agents who i know that are along the border areas who can't sell the property

00:35:39.020 property property values have substantially dropped you know um there's a group that's put a class

00:35:45.480 action together to go against the federal government for these border property owners that have lost

00:35:51.360 just about their entire livelihood the ranches people don't go out to these ranches to hunt these

00:35:56.060 private reserves i mean it just goes on the ripple effect and one thing i wanted to add also is that

00:36:02.460 people don't understand my buddy and i and also bryce knows this firsthand is la county sheriff uh the

00:36:09.400 stuff that they're seeing the increase in gains they got fresh recruits not just in la county but in new

00:36:14.880 york and all kinds of other areas yeah we are we're coming up on our on our our last break but when we come

00:36:21.600 back when we come back i want to turn the situation here around a little bit and talk about

00:36:26.660 pie in the sky what can we do to solve it come back behind the border battle human events daily

00:36:34.020 okay we are back with our final segment here human events sunday behind the border battle final

00:36:43.440 segment you know we've gotten to some rough stuff here on the show uh we've been having hitting some

00:36:48.340 definite low spots but i wanted to also mention we just talked about the heroes but i also want to get

00:36:53.400 into solutions because i think so often we talk about the border people know it's bad they realize

00:36:58.060 how harrowing it is what can we do about it and so i want to kind of go through the the circle here

00:37:03.600 and ask let's start with uh let's start with steve and i'll ask all you guys same question blank check

00:37:09.220 unlimited budget um you know assume that you're going to get whatever executive order you need etc etc the

00:37:16.180 courts are going to go your way what is what does right look like how do you solve this what's your

00:37:21.180 task force like what's the authorities what do you do steve you know um i think it's a multi-pronged

00:37:27.720 solution right i think um the private security side of it is going to be a big part of it you got to

00:37:33.960 disrupt you got to disrupt it you got to make it very difficult for them to be able to continue

00:37:37.620 uh operations as business as usual right so i think for me obviously in the space the drones part

00:37:46.920 of it is really good at at capturing them and putting actually a drone solution together but

00:37:52.980 also being able to when they do the pickups on the highways to have a drone team that's dedicated to

00:37:59.500 tracking these to their stash houses and all the way through the channel so you can disrupt the entire

00:38:05.420 channel that means going into south america finding where the root of the octopus starts and then

00:38:12.980 actually cutting off that entire leg yes it's going in and it's extracting the root out you keep

00:38:19.580 cutting these branches on our side of the border that just keeps growing another branch another leg

00:38:24.260 i think you got to go straight into the root track it from the root and disrupt the entire supply chain

00:38:30.520 so are you and and just to just go on with that are you talking would that look like military would

00:38:36.140 that look like national security agencies or just kind of an all the above sort of approach

00:38:41.240 um i i think that it's got to be the the two the two governments got to be working together right

00:38:47.500 i mean that's that's the biggest biggest problem here you know somebody's got to want to stop it

00:38:53.040 look i don't run the military but when you stop a hole when you create a container system where you

00:38:58.520 you know you rehire the border patrol that you fired right you bring in the resources um you put you

00:39:04.980 put up that that that that front um you track them you stop them in their tracks left and right

00:39:10.840 it's real disruptive you're grabbing their drugs you're stopping the sex traffickers you're dropping

00:39:16.020 the child traffickers you know i feel that you know and then you're able to trade chase them and here's

00:39:23.200 the thing we we chase tornadoes right with high-speed drones racing teams and you do it safely because

00:39:28.780 they know once they get past a certain speed limit the dps border patrol border sheriffs have to back

00:39:35.420 down they can't race through these towns so these getaways you stop them with using high-speed drones

00:39:41.880 that they don't even know they're being tracked and you start hitting them in those areas and using

00:39:46.520 technology you know you get them a bunch of times it's gonna it's gonna no i agree definitely

00:39:53.900 technology is gonna play a huge part of that bryce let's go same question to you unlimited budget

00:39:58.080 unlimited authorities what do you do yeah i'm gonna answer it a little bit differently though

00:40:02.220 because i think there's a short-term intermediate and then long-term solution but i'll hit you with

00:40:06.740 the short term if you have a governor even with a political will to do something on their own border

00:40:14.360 i think you can solve it um and and kind of create the pressure on the other states to also do something

00:40:20.200 similar what i would do is i would augment the sheriff's departments down arizona where we've spent a lot

00:40:27.800 of time those guys already know where to go where things are happening where the drugs are coming in

00:40:34.300 where the personnel is coming in and if you declared war on the cartels in those areas you could start to

00:40:42.920 button things up by providing real resources to them again augment their forces you know we we have a

00:40:49.280 you know a um a vocational training school for military veterans you could repurpose military vets

00:40:55.840 and you know put them in service train them uh have them work alongside dps have them work alongside

00:41:03.000 the border patrol have them work uh with the sheriffs and again augment and bolster their forces

00:41:09.160 in order to say that okay this border is shut down and if you did that even in just certain areas it will

00:41:15.640 force the flow into the other areas and then you're going to have to have a cohesive response across our

00:41:23.280 entire border if you have a you know federal administration that wants to do this it's going

00:41:28.720 to be similar you're going to have to have somebody that has the political will to say that it ends here

00:41:33.960 and really increase the penalties for traffickers you know really work hard you know with the mexican

00:41:40.120 government to make sure that we're not getting the fentanyl and the human trafficking in but you could do it

00:41:45.000 not agree um marcus same question yes um thank you for allowing me to go after the two experts but

00:41:52.880 i think i would like to piggyback of all of them but i think legislatively we need to designate the

00:41:59.500 cartels as a terrorist organization they are absolutely stronger than isis they have more pool

00:42:07.520 than any other organization in the world to me financially they money launder through china

00:42:12.040 they have relationships with them that's where they get the fentanyl precursors is from china

00:42:16.740 um this isn't some conspiracy this is just actual where they produce the products the department of

00:42:22.160 justice just had a huge indictment of one of the not just the um chinese communist party members that

00:42:28.640 was conducting the fentanyl precursors but also the money launderers was just indicted forget the next

00:42:34.320 guy's name off the top of my head but he was indicted for laundering money for the cartels through china

00:42:39.420 and then back into the united states and mexico that's right so if we designate them as a terrorist

00:42:45.200 organization and jason jones does this expertly through uh in episode six as well as the documentary

00:42:50.340 series but we have to cut them off and that way internationally they're now known as a terrorist

00:42:55.280 organization which brings attention to them where we are forced in to take measures that are necessary

00:43:01.300 to prevent them from further doing any business with us um also would restrict business doing

00:43:06.620 operations with mexico and the short being until it is audited and made sure that mexico's dealings are

00:43:13.120 not infiltrated by the cartels because as a humanitarian as most people care about other

00:43:18.140 human beings or as they proclaim they do we have to be able to take care of each individual and for

00:43:23.100 people that actually want to come into this country and we want to for their well-being if you say that

00:43:27.680 you're oh well these are just migrants then you have to take care of them where they're at and where 1.00

00:43:31.740 they're coming from and see that this terrorist organization is slaughtering thousands of people

00:43:36.180 making 5 000 people miss a year where they just don't end up in an obituary they're missing so we

00:43:42.660 have to understand that this terrorist organization is a bigger threat than any other middle east

00:43:47.080 organization to the america's sovereignty so label them as a terrorist organization and then actually

00:43:53.120 praying and understanding that these lives of all the individuals involved i actually had the

00:43:58.720 opportunity to tackle a coyote uh coming in and uh cast a grand and i asked him questions just basic

00:44:05.340 questions and this is a kid that just owes money you know like some of these people owe money to the

00:44:09.700 cartels they're not actually part of the cartel but they are forced to do it because it's either

00:44:13.420 lead or silver you either get paid or you get murdered so if you care about people you will force 0.98

00:44:20.040 as a people we have to make our voices heard we have to go and get legislation done to where they are

00:44:26.760 labeled as terrorist organization and that we want to take care of people and we want to take care of

00:44:31.340 our own people whether it's fentanyl or just violence and crime and all the different organizations

00:44:35.820 sprouting across america that are infiltrated by the cartels with human trafficking over 20 000 kids are

00:44:42.420 missing due to human trafficking we have to do something and it starts with us as individuals

00:44:47.760 raising up and actually saying we won't stand for this anymore no i couldn't agree more thank you so much

00:44:53.900 for that uh lee xi jur was the name of the uh the launderer by the way lee xi jur who was indicted

00:45:00.400 and convicted of laundering but of course with this chinese communist party they're just going to find 0.85

00:45:04.540 another one it's the same deal with these cartels they're going to find another one you know for me i

00:45:08.460 i i don't know you know you guys mentioned it so i'm gonna have to throw it out there it would

00:45:12.660 certainly be nice if we had some sort of i don't know physical barrier separating the north and south

00:45:20.460 almost like a um almost like a wall you know some kind of uh yeah let me hit that really quick

00:45:28.260 because there's confusion on this wall you know a wall is not a perfect barrier but where it is

00:45:34.260 complete and we saw it complete you're talking lights sensors cameras you know all of the technology

00:45:42.300 that they put on this wall the wall is impressive and in those areas where it exists you know they're not

00:45:48.800 crossing there they're going around and the where the where they are coming in is where the wall is

00:45:54.960 missing so you know it's not going to be a perfect barrier but it will slow them down right you're

00:45:59.660 going to create that friction time for the drones to be able to get there time for the teams be able

00:46:03.800 to get there and you're also what you're doing is you're channelizing it so that uh you know where

00:46:08.900 those areas are going to be so to you know to steve to your point for these guys getting overwhelmed

00:46:13.360 then they'll be able to focus on hopefully those areas we're down to our last two minutes guys let

00:46:18.740 me just add real quick with the safe rounds go right ahead real quick so it's a simple solution

00:46:24.760 when you said a blank check you don't need a blank check you can actually with the system that we

00:46:30.040 worked with bryce at covered six there's a solution that is substantially less way more effective

00:46:35.820 that in the private sector if shared with the public sector could be a huge solution into reducing

00:46:42.720 the ink the incoming bad elements and a better approach to apprehending people safely and actually

00:46:49.840 being able to stop some of this stuff that's going on you know no absolutely i mean it would be so easy

00:46:57.060 to do that i wish and and back to bryce's point we just need the political will everyone knows where

00:47:03.620 to follow me human events uh marcus where can people follow you oh well they can look at senate 48

00:47:09.440 yeah think of a good senate 48 that's a production company that kent and i both own and operate um i

00:47:15.620 would encourage you to actually watch the great global reset a documentary that uh jack is also a

00:47:20.580 part of as i believe it as uh bryce mentioned earlier as a marcus and i got frisked at the uh the world

00:47:27.300 economic forum by the world wef police didn't even get dinner out of that one no yeah but i believe

00:47:33.900 that is the catalyst for all of this uh this is the destabilization of our own country uh utilizing

00:47:40.000 foreign assets to basically break us apart from within um so i believe if you watch that uh that

00:47:46.060 will be a great precursor in understanding as to why the devastation at the border is happening no they

00:47:50.640 go together they certainly go together steve where can people go to access you and get access to your

00:47:54.300 work yeah they can i'm i'm i'm an open book steve slepcevic uh you can find our company strategic

00:48:01.200 response partners um disaster management company srp24.com amen bryce you're uh same question for

00:48:08.960 you what are your coordinates yeah you can follow me at super bryce eddie on instagram or i'm the

00:48:15.040 host of liberty station on salem's podcast network and so you can find me there all right and we are

00:48:20.360 going to make sure to put all of that information here in the description of course on the podcast

00:48:24.340 side we'll have it down for everybody i want to say thank you again to the panel thank you guys for

00:48:28.500 your work outside of this and then also your work into making border battle this incredible success

00:48:34.320 that it is and i think we can all agree that we pray that all of this humanitarian disaster

00:48:39.800 eventually will be ended in our lifetimes ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 06, 2022

Sunday Special： Behind the Border Battle

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