Sunday Special： Behind the Border Battle
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Join us for a special sunday edition of the Human Events sunday special where we conduct a panel with the Director of the Border Battle docuseries "Border Battle" as well as two of the stars of the show.
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ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to this very special sunday edition human events sunday special
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where we're essentially conducting a panel today for the border battle docuseries which
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just completed now its full run is available on salem now we're working on getting it up on all
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platforms but what i've got is a special treat for all of you because we've got the director of border
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battle as well as two of the stars of the docuseries that are here today to tell us a little
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bit about it what it was like making it and really give us some solutions about what to do moving
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forward when it comes to the border so without further ado um you know just want to introduce
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you guys and let people know we've got bryce eddie we've got marcus wada we've got steve slachevic so
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uh marcus tell us a little about yourself and how'd you get involved the project
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yes um i met with turning point back in february um mark lamb sheriff mark lamb in pinal county arizona
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uh was so kind to introduce us uh kent and myself um to charlie and marina uh the producers of the
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project and really pour out their hearts on exactly why they believe the border is a huge issue in
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america and i always believed it was um you know coming from my own uh viewpoint but when they
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introduced to me the depth and um the heart behind it i was shocked and then i began to do research and
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um you know just amazed exactly how much input that charlie and marina both had and all the
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information that they were able to handle and being plugged in with guys like bryce steve
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sheriff mark lamb jason jones um assistant chief at um texas uh texas dps and stacy holland
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just been blessed by all these guys and really all the information and heart they have for
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keeping their community safe um and the border so yeah that's kind of how it all started back
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in february and then we embarked on a journey to uh go down to arizona first arizona borders
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in cochise county and then travel all across america whether it's washington dc where i met
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you first jack uh to los angeles all the way to texas and really around the whole world so it's
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been an amazing journey amen amen so bryce eddie executive with covered six security you've also
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got your show tell us a little bit about yourself what's your background yeah thank you so um you know
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our firm is a security consulting firm and vocational training school for military veterans and so we
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were taking quite a few trips down there um with a number of different people to kind of assess what
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was going on and you know we're we're close to charlie and his organization from a consulting
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perspective and uh you know kind of put our heads together as to what the issue is and some time with
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the sheriff's departments and everything down there to figure out what needs to be done and then got
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invited to participate in this project both as a security for the camera crew and also to do
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operations embedded with the sheriff's departments down there and it was a wild ride i gotta tell you
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no absolutely and then steve same question just to give the audience a little bit about your
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background a little bit by way of introducing yourself yeah so i've been running a disaster management
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company for a little over 30 years and i do well that was one big disaster management scenario but
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when um when the situation started changing at the border i have personal friends that are border patrol
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and border sheriffs and i was asking them about some of the trouble some of the issues that they uh they
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were encountering and simply i operate from a space of solutions you know everything from disaster
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planning disaster response and the recovery aspect of it so i was basically applying the same
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information and having some of the best drone technologies and some of the best drone pilots
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that uh that we do in pre and post storm situations urban search and rescue type scenarios i just saw that
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there would be a great fit for us to assist them um in the process uh bringing them the tools technology
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that's at the very cutting edge to just be a big support on that aspect of it so i'm a person who sees a
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need and my job simply to fill it to be in service and that's what we did now absolutely and obviously
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that's strategic response partners there now marcus what was it like integrating them so obviously
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your background is more in terms of media production and and film but what was it like embedding with
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these groups with bryce and steve and then working them into your team yeah i mean absolutely it was
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humbling um seeing the level of expertise that each team demonstrated um covered six and their
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knowledge and just the way that they're able to assess situations and really break down um not only
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like identifying what the problem is but also coming up with solutions as we'll get into later um but just
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watching them coordinate uh whether it was setting up uh different locations with the sheriff departments
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in pinal county uh down in yuma and watching them really at a high level organize this structure
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um you know i've been travel i've traveled all over the world uh philippines japan china korea
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doing different productions and it was really humbling to see what a high level caliber um that this team
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does it really i don't think those many productions uh can do so i i was able to glean a lot of wisdom
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from them and then just utilizing the amazing technology that steve and his team and really i
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mean outside of just the the coordination with covered six and the amazing technology just people
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in general these guys are just great so i was able to learn so much in terms of their expertise on the
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border and uh really just utilizing and running their teams really well so it was very humbling and very
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happy yeah yeah absolutely now bryce you mentioned something and and guys feel feel free to chat you
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know i don't want this to be some you know thing where i'm just barking uh barking questions out
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there but but bryce you did mention something about running operations with the sheriffs you
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know what what was that are you able to tell us at all about what type of operations those were or what
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can you tell us about that yeah sure so you know uh the amazing thing with these sheriff's departments
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down there um you know they know what's happening in great detail and they know where people are
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coming in they know what the problem is and can identify it and have some resources but they don't
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have all the resources to do some of the things that are kind of off the beaten path for instance we did
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night operations where we were going through the areas in which they were trafficking fentanyl you know
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the the folks with the carpet shoes a lot of this is shown in the documentary so it's really compelling
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to watch you know where people are coming in we were also able to you know be there at the moments
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where people were just walking across the border down in yuma and all of that um in some previous things
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that didn't make it on film because this was prior to the the project we had actually rescued human
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trafficked individuals and there's a really some amazing things that we witnessed both before
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production and then also during the production such as the forward operating bases that the cartels have
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on our soil and things like that well let me walk me through that real quick you're you're rescuing
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someone does that mean you're actually getting them out from one of these traffic situations or is it
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kind of like these stories i think we had that national guardsman who he drowned when he was trying
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to rescue someone in the river but you're not talking about uh in those situations you mean actually
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getting them out from the traffickers right yeah that's correct and being able to hand them you
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know over to border patrol and and you know get them to to safety um we witnessed things that were
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absolutely horrible that did make it into the film such as the rape trees and i talk about that a
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little bit um i think the first episode and stuff like that to witness that i mean it makes you want
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to throw up the stuff that's going on that we're willfully letting go on it should not be a partisan
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issue it should not be a political issue it's just uh i believe a real attack on our sovereignty
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and we need some moral clarity about this thing no i couldn't agree more steve let me let me throw the
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same question at you was there anything that you thought that um that didn't quite make it onto screen
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in the docuseries that you think people really need to understand about what yeah specifically with
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what you do there was a lot of scenarios and you know bryce brings up one area that that we noticed
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over and over again and this is working with the different border sheriffs from arizona all the way down
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to la jolla uh texas you know um the the um the border patrol the border sheriffs were a completely
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overwhelmed i mean there was there was on one of the missions where they had flown the helicopter
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over one area there was they they basically cleared the area there was nothing there they got a whole
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group of migrants crossing over it i'm communicating with the border uh with the border patrol and he's
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telling me that they're moving all their assets to this one area because they got a massive group
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that's crossing over so we swung to the right and started you know scanning that area and picked up
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six drug traffickers running through the area and were able to shed the coordinates to split a small
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team off to go grab those those individuals and then as they were dropping the bags as they were
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getting arrested we had everything with high res definition exactly every gps waypoint as to where
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they're at but there was a time where we caught a group of 20 the 20 groups split into 12 and 8
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and the the the border the border sheriff's calling every one of his guys and he was tapped out and he
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turns over to my drone team and a couple other security guys that we had and we've done multiple
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stuff with covered six but they turned and they said hey can you help us right and in that situation
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we're jumping in the vehicle ripping down the highway going down this back road climbing a 14-foot
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fence while my drone team's on calm saying go 100 yards right go 50 yards left right there
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stop right there hold on hold on hold surround that area stay in the dark lights out the drones
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are all above them they don't realize that there's a a thermal high-res drone completely opted out
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it's completely dark ultra quiet so you don't hear nothing and then the the the the sheriff that was
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with us he goes okay light them up so the drone comes down spotlights come on this all gets really
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loud and everyone's surrounding these guys and they're shorthanded so they're trying to cuff them
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right there on the ground as quick as they can and then also one person trying to run one way
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one person trying to run the other way they realize that they're cuffed already because it's a shock and
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all right but the need for the private security aspect of it because they're overwhelmed and they're
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looking for people that are trained that can actually assist in those type of scenarios really
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just think it helps the border it's a huge liability it's a life safety matter
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um i can't tell you how overwhelmed they are um there's times that me and bryce were with the
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with the covered six group srp marcus was there and they have 60 70 people that come across a border
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crossing and they're standing there for what seven eight hours waiting for border patrol to show up with
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buses and people are wandering off i mean you walk across 50 yards you can grab an uber let me let me
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hold that thought right there we're coming up on our very first break but i want to get into this
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more right after the break uh we're here with the behind the border battle panel here on human events
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sunday special stay tuned because we're going to hear more about this saving lives tracking the
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traffickers in real time across the border capturing it turning point usa stay tuned we will be right back
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okay and we're back for the behind the border battle special here on human events and right as
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we left steve you were telling us this harrowing story of using your drones but then also you in
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real time tracking migrants and a group of them coming across illegally on the border we had just
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gotten to the point where they started to be arrested they were starting to run away didn't even
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realize that they were in handcuffs when i was in the military we used to call that shock of capture
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so you're in that shock of capture phase they don't even realize what's going on yet you know you might
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start firing you know back then because if you're doing interrogations that you fire off the questions
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at them they don't even realize you know kind of what's going on tell me what what what happened next
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what happened next in terms of that um that encounter well one of the things is obviously once
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getting getting into the encounter there's a lot of stuff that was done pre right we're watching them
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walk we're watching them go a little ways hide lay down you know they're not sure if they're being
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tracked or not um you're able to see the detail of whether they're carrying a weapon on them how their
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clothes are moving a lot of intel is being done about how they're moving what type of what type of
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weapons do you see what type of weapons do you see down there oh listen let me let me answer that
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because it's it's they are they are well outfitted jack i mean they they were not just
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you know having um you know pistols and rifles they were having the best pistols and rifles
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these guys in some cases they had ak-47s but you saw a lot of ar-15s we're talking full kits so they
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they were we're wearing plate carriers i mean this is a parallel military there uh in terms of the cartel
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the people that are crossing over the border that are being trafficked or paying the cartel to get across
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are are coming you know with their gear backpacks all that you know walking across uh you know
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changing their shoes you know it depends on the scenario but it was amazing to witness the sheer
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scale of the operation that they have going on you see i don't think people realize that because you
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know and go back to steve to your story and i didn't mean to cut you off there but it it seems to
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me that we hear that oh these are just people who are searching for a better life they're just looking
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for economic um you know some some better situations for themselves for their families
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we're not hearing stories about people coming across the plate carriers and ar-15s and ak-47s
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unless it's you know the fast and furious scandal and then they don't even talk about it for 10 years
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yeah no if i could interject this uh it's amazing to see exactly what you're talking about bryce and
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steve and it's uh there are families coming over that's not the issue though the biggest issue is
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that criminals like part of this paramilitary group with these cartels not only the pistols not
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only automatic machine guns you're talking about like full-size tanks that they have at their disposal
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um these these militia groups aren't militias like how you think about here they are literally as
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strong if not stronger than the marines in mexico these people are absolutely terrorists it is not
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this i don't know i don't know backwoods militia group just selling drugs in the mountains
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these guys are organized more more intelligent than you think when you make over 24 billion
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dollars per month off of human trafficking you have a lot of money at your disposal for the best
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intel for intel that our military or our government systems who don't communicate well together
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are not able to match because we have restrictions we obey laws our um you know the texas dps for
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example they cannot just dispose of their drones the way that the cartel can they're like oh
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13 000 drone we're gonna fly that into your drone they don't think about it the same way they have
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scouts with sniper rifles on the other side of the mountain i've seen it in cochise county on the other
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side they have this camp set up where a sniper a sniper will actually be there making sure that
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other rip crews in arizona will not rip off a uh something they're trying to smuggle over these
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aren't family units these are absolutely when you say a crew that the idea of a rip crew is that
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somebody who's who's looking for one of these um one of these basically like uh what would you call
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it like a train or a caravan one of these groups to come over and then hit them like like basically
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you're basically talking wild wild west banditry like the same way it's been there for 200 years
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exactly oh yeah yeah go ahead bruce and i yeah i mentioned um at the very beginning and kind of hit it
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passing but i want to focus on this we have forward operating bases the the cartel is on our soil with
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forward operating bases right now we witnessed them we saw them uh when we went down during the
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daytime the first time when we were scouting locations in yuma we could see them we felt the
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hair on the back of our necks at first uh stand up and then you know glass the areas and we could see
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them in the distance and it was on our soil that's that's one of the things that people need to
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understand the second thing about that is is here in california where i'm at we have desert cities
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that are actually dominated by the cartels and run by the cartels to the point that local politicians
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are terrified of them now you're saying and and and i want to be clear about this and and steve back to
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you as well that this is happening on our side of the border this isn't in mexico where we're talking
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about these cartels that that control you know these vast swassa territory they're uh just south
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of the borders of the northern northern you know basically tier of mexico you're talking about on
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american soil all this is going on steve uh when you're working with these sheriffs i mean are they
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they're all aware of this they understand this is going on but it speaks to what you were saying
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about them being overwhelmed yeah i mean they're they're they're the sheriff's department's not only
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being overwhelmed they're getting played because when they're sitting at the top of these mountain peaks
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mountain ranges and they have the the range finders and they have these these the the scopes we're
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running our own scope so we have our own our own scopes are are you know that that have a long
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range stuff on it we can actually see them looking at us and so they're giving comms to their people
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going through that area to come across or they're smuggling drugs whatever else and there's many times
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we're working our drones and there's no pattern that we do and so we'll get on top of these guys and
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they're in full camel they'll drop down in the grass like whatever that's at they'll lay there and then
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you see them on the phones talking to the scout on the mountaintop hey i got a drone on top of me
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which way do i go you know meanwhile they know exactly when the border patrol comes in when their
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shift changes are when the the border sheriffs how they're moving where their truck is the dust trails
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so they stop move people all around that it's like a coordinated uh trafficked route that has scouts and
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like this full-blown logistical operation i mean that sounds like that sounds like like a military unit
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basically that sounds like a military unit movement operation like the same type of stuff i trained on
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uh when i was in the military that to me sounds like where you're using to your point right you've got
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um you've got aerial you've got overhead you've got your own drones you got your own scouts i mean you're
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not talking about this isn't a couple of people just you know crossing the river no this isn't this is a
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military operation that's exactly what it is yeah that's exactly what it is it's difficult for them to get
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into those areas they know that right so by the time the border sheriffs try to get up into a mountain
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range where they're at they simply track across it they're they're they're across the border mexico
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the sheriff leaves it's almost like they they know that they can't get to them so they just move back
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into the area and it's the terrain's very difficult and there's routes that are not being patrolled by
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anybody and they they know what those routes are when to move through those sectors and go undetected
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yeah and with their overwatch you know all they have to do is warn them when they see the lights
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of the sheriff's department the dust and you know anything coming their way border patrol agents and
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they can run them off we should talk about the border patrol agents for a moment because i i feel bad
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for those guys those guys are despondent and demoralized because they could if again there was
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political will they could solve this problem and most of them are hamstrung because of what's
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happening now and that political temperature that we have i think this is an attack on our
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sovereignty as a nation and these guys are unable to do what their whole entire purpose is and it's a
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it's sad to see some of that i know we we put into the the docuseries but a lot of it just the exchanges
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we had friendly with these border patrol agents as we're walking around prior to filming or in the
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middle of shoots they're they were telling us all kinds of heartbreaking things well what give me
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give me an example we got a couple of minutes well give me an example of something they would say
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yeah yeah we we interviewed um specifically somebody we did not want to um cause them to
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lose their job so we did put them in a situation where you know the voice was the whistleblower so
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that this is the episode where we have the the whistleblower i think the interview plays in a
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couple episodes but this is the whistleblower who was in the silhouette go ahead correct he's in
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episodes one two and five i'm just hearing exactly um how evil it is the way that they're not limited
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or the way they are limited to do their job they are very capable from 2016 to 2020 they were very
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capable at the job then all of a sudden 2021 on all of a sudden they're inept it doesn't make sense
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so but these people are going through it they're seeing dead bodies at a record rate um i believe
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it was over 2 000 recovered dead bodies in the state of texas um and because of cold because of
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conditions that you know we're allowing people to come in and we're allowing criminals to make their
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way in but in disposing of family units they're utilizing families as a distraction so the biggest
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problem that we have isn't um the border patrols and capabilities they're capable people these are
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professionals that want to take care of their community these people are very capable at
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everything they do if you watch any of their films in the way that they're trained they're military
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level talent the problem is the way that they're being handcuffed right now and just used as a
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professional uber service where they're taxing people being inundated into certain areas where the
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cartels know we're going to send in family units over here to distract them and to utilize our
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capabilities to say hey okay here's here's where the family units go i have a friend that's
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interviewed in episodes one and and two um hot neil um he made his way over he's a cuban refugee
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and went through and the cartel was the one organizing he found out and you know treated like raw pieces of
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meat not caring he witnessed people raped coming up through mexico he witnessed people just being killed
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just because again these people are cargo if you're not going to obey his cargo you're going to be
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terminated so these these border patrol agents are being inundated and they're being distracted to
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take care of these ports of entry or uh different places where it's safer for family units to travel
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while the cartels are going to the other side and using what you call bonsai runs they send in family
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units 20 to 100 people and then they boom they'll go through a gate they'll cut a fence and then now
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you have drugs pouring into our country at a record rate so if they send the family units to one side
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and we've only got a minute here till the break but they'll send the family units to one side wait
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for the border patrol to respond trigger that response which steve you were just talking about
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and then bang they'll hit this other route as they know the people are going over there and that's
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where the drugs are coming in that's where other trafficked um just you know obviously you know
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military age males and the rest are coming through correct the situation on our border it's completely
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insane um i i don't think people realize you you guys you're not talking about some
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you know some little low-level issue this isn't street gangs this is a military operation what
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we're talking about here is a war it's a war with a trans national parallel military organization
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multiple organizations that's going on on our border every day and the border patrol agents
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they're not given the ability to actually fight it the way they should stay tuned we'll be right back
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jack posobiec we're back here behind the border battle i'm joined by marcus wada bryce eddie steve
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slichevic and we're talking about behind the border battle the stories that didn't quite make the cut
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for the border battle series available salem now and all platforms of course we're also summarizing a lot
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of what goes on we're talking right now about the morale issues for our border patrol under this
00:24:44.220
biden regime the fact that it's an attack on our sovereignty and they're not given the ability
00:24:49.960
to do the job that they are capable of doing marcus we were just talking a little bit during the break
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that you're actually seeing now the child trafficking that's going on across the border tell us about
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that that's correct it is absolutely disheartening as a father of six myself you're witnessing countless
00:25:07.840
children coming in with people that are not their parents not their family members when we were
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there with coverage six and with srp we witnessed many people who had children that look absolutely
00:25:19.840
nothing like them and not only that i have a friend in border patrol that told me a story that
00:25:25.400
absolutely sent chills down my spine and still does when i think about it but they recovered a three-year-old
00:25:30.900
at the border who's been dumped and actually documented many times of crossing the border with different
00:25:35.660
family units and when they found her she had a phone number and address attached to her kind of just
00:25:41.380
like you would a cattle registered if you will and so the border patrol agent took her back into the
00:25:47.640
border patrol where they register everybody and a woman came who wasn't called and woman came and
00:25:53.360
asked for her she had a piece of paper with the document and a picture of the girl and said that it
00:25:58.180
was her niece the girl did not want to be released to this woman the border patrol agent had no other
00:26:05.080
option because under the regulations and how they operate now if it is a claimed family member which
00:26:11.060
there is no check this girl did not have an id um did not respond to a name the border patrol agent had
00:26:17.560
to give her up and that border patrol agent still struggles to live with that moment and she he still
00:26:21.940
says he sees her every day in his sleep i mean you you hear some of these towering stories you know
00:26:28.100
steven bryce you know not only with the child trafficking but what are what are some of the other
00:26:32.740
stories these craziest stories that you've heard you know that didn't quite make it into into the
00:26:37.600
cut that didn't make it into the show well there's that 11 year old that got raped multiple times she
00:26:43.100
came across the border bleeding you know we thought maybe she that she had her period come to find out
00:26:47.760
there was like seven eight nine different strands of dna they found in her you know when they did the
00:26:52.440
when they did the the work up on her um the seven nine-year-old that were kidnapped from honduras
00:26:58.580
right um in traffic across the border by two coyotes right i'm a single male my wife left me
00:27:04.920
come to find out those kids weren't even their kids um it's it's it's it's it's sickening um
00:27:12.260
in the thing happens every day excuse me this happens every day um and people just seem to turn
00:27:21.020
a blind eye all the border patrol that we've worked with and at nighttime they're sitting there they're
00:27:24.820
telling me look you got another hit got another hit got another hit we're overwhelmed i can't get
00:27:29.360
to all these so it just if they're overwhelmed they're flooded they're exhausted i'm like how
00:27:36.160
many hours he's like i'm on overtime you know um on multiple runs that we were at i'm like where's
00:27:42.480
the drone team at he goes oh there's a cloud this guy and the drone is just it has this old thermals
00:27:48.220
on it that are four years old it's obsolete we don't really even use it because the drone team
00:27:52.800
even though they're supposed to be doing it they're overwhelmed they're being called in to
00:27:55.980
do apprehension so they can't even effectively do that part of their job um it's been the other
00:28:02.160
horrifying yeah i mean it's just horrible yeah and i mean here the fact that they would that they
00:28:09.360
would allow this to happen with with children and that our government knows about this and and and
00:28:17.120
bryce explain to me this our government knows this is going on and yet they they seem to allow it they
00:28:23.040
seem to enable it why is this happening yeah listen i mean jack i know you talk about this on on your
00:28:29.960
show on a regular basis but this is an attack against our sovereignty and you know if you if you
00:28:35.960
can break our borders then you can you know reimagine them or recreate them in your own image and we
00:28:41.900
have a lot of that going on i think it's driven by uh you know globalist concerns and so you know
00:28:49.200
although they're aware of it they don't care because again we could solve this problem um you know
00:28:55.840
touching on human trafficking real quick the thing that people don't really think about with human
00:29:02.120
trafficking is drugs fentanyl and things like that get used one time but a human being can be used
00:29:09.600
multiple times and that's why it's such a massive industry for the cartels that's why it's something
00:29:15.860
that's so profitable for them but if you think about what they're doing to these folks uh many of them
00:29:22.240
that are coming over have even an expectation that they are going to be raped and abused along the way
00:29:29.740
there was a a cuban girl that we had kind of privately talked to and she was a lawyer
00:29:36.800
and uh came over went through the process trafficked by the cartel to to get over just you know paying
00:29:43.960
them to cross the border and clearly she had been abused and was still in the ptsd of it and uh you
00:29:54.280
know didn't want to lay out the story but you saw in her eyes the horrors that she went through
00:29:59.400
yeah and we'll go ahead marcus yeah no i remember that it still affects me my editor and i uh when
00:30:07.860
reviewing this project this project was a blessing but at the same time it was one of the hardest
00:30:11.940
things i had to deal with uh just emotionally seeing um all the destruction um every day you
00:30:18.260
know eight to eight to 12 hours editing going through the loss going through multiple five-year-old
00:30:23.780
children that i've actually seen tossed aside i was just with the brush team texas dps and la jolla
00:30:30.320
texas and uh we were running through the brush thorns cacti sticking in my leg chasing this individual
00:30:37.460
throws a five-year-old boy and just to to avoid detection and uh i just remember as this woman
00:30:46.500
claimed it was the father and i was just uh as a man you you kind of want to physically engage
00:30:52.300
um but yeah just just the absolute destruction and that woman what happened a little the kid
00:30:59.440
was he all right he was okay um the the female that was taking care of him uh got gathered got
00:31:06.520
processed uh by border patrol but um yeah still you know just being tossed aside like that as a five
00:31:12.860
year old i can only imagine the emotional uh damage and if not physical but um how that would stick with
00:31:19.340
you uh being seen as less than human um it has to be ruining so i mean it feels like we're not even
00:31:28.980
you know let's we're talking about the victims of this but you know marcus steve bryce whichever
00:31:35.060
you guys want to take this who who are some of the heroes who are some of the heroes down there
00:31:40.080
you know we talk about the victims but but it it does feel like there are people that are stepping up
00:31:45.080
um obviously yourselves going down there filming running these operations but who are some of the
00:31:50.660
heroes that people can actually look to when it comes to this these two guys uh these two guys are
00:31:55.880
definitely some i'm no joke like i respect them they are amazing uh but sheriff mark lamb um yeah
00:32:02.020
and pinal county arizona sheriff mark daniels down in coches county sheriff leon wilmot down in yuma
00:32:08.320
county um texas dps as a whole uh i got to work with all the way from alpine el paso midland uh la
00:32:16.240
jolla all the way down um to edinburgh uh these guys and and women they all risk their lives daily
00:32:25.740
with with little pay in comparison if you think about the physical um requirements that they have
00:32:30.820
to do but i'm talking about stacy holland uh jason jones who's actually with newsmax and i work with
00:32:35.220
him at newsmax as well um these these guys they put their life on the line every single day
00:32:42.180
no thank yous for the most part maybe a free diner meal every once in a while but these people have
00:32:49.180
families these people have real life relationships and they're they're facing down the barrel daily
00:32:56.580
and um you know i've gotten to go in helicopters with these guys and underground units and uh me and
00:33:02.680
my team and i can tell you like kent and i and ryan we've experienced so many blessings just by seeing
00:33:09.120
the sheer determination these people have to protect the community uh but yeah jason jones as well like i
00:33:14.760
said um and uh stacy holland and texas dps these guys and their whole teams i i'm blown away with the
00:33:21.860
care they have yeah i'll add i'll add to that sorry steve i'll add to that but the um the sheriff's
00:33:30.880
departments without a doubt but also the citizen journalists and like marcus and his team you know
00:33:36.720
he's saying nice things about us but what they're doing to expose this i mean charlie kirk tp usa um
00:33:42.660
you know putting themselves on the line uh marcus put himself in danger um you know he he was down
00:33:48.260
there wearing rifle plates and everything because you know we didn't know exactly what we were going
00:33:51.960
to get into and then you have the drew hernandez of the world the um you know other folks jorge
00:33:57.640
ventura all of these people that have been going down there on their own to expose this stuff and
00:34:03.520
try to get some of these things highlighted those are the heroes right now we need to bust this thing
00:34:08.760
wide open and reveal what's truly going on no i think that's right steve you're going to say
00:34:12.700
something yeah i was just adding to a bryce saying uh sergeant tim williams you know out of
00:34:18.440
cochise county and his saber team incredible right these guys are the unsung heroes and the other people
00:34:24.200
that i want to also is the guys that are quiet they're silent but they're sharing intel from
00:34:29.100
both border patrol and and and uh border sheriffs right um all of them just sharing information on the
00:34:35.460
back end um everybody that's putting their their voice out there who's shown up there is putting
00:34:40.980
their lives at risk these i live 40 miles from the border right we're we're you know along with
00:34:46.760
covered six our names out there right so our families are at risk but you know what we do it for the love
00:34:52.020
of the country and for the fact of just humanity like when you come across these children's these kids
00:34:57.640
who had no choice right and god calls us to be in service so when you step in there and you're
00:35:03.960
intercepting one at a time you've changed the trajectory of that child's life they don't know you
00:35:10.100
they don't know the team members they don't know the sheriffs that showed up there to intercept that
00:35:14.360
situation but these guys get up every single morning and they show up with their hands tied
00:35:19.980
behind their back uh taking all kinds of negative press they can't speak out the border people that
00:35:26.880
live along the border ranches these ranchers that we've talked to where they're cutting their fence
00:35:31.240
they're killing their cattle they're letting their cattle out they're destroying their properties
00:35:34.780
the real estate agents who i know that are along the border areas who can't sell the property
00:35:39.020
property property values have substantially dropped you know um there's a group that's put a class
00:35:45.480
action together to go against the federal government for these border property owners that have lost
00:35:51.360
just about their entire livelihood the ranches people don't go out to these ranches to hunt these
00:35:56.060
private reserves i mean it just goes on the ripple effect and one thing i wanted to add also is that
00:36:02.460
people don't understand my buddy and i and also bryce knows this firsthand is la county sheriff uh the
00:36:09.400
stuff that they're seeing the increase in gains they got fresh recruits not just in la county but in new
00:36:14.880
york and all kinds of other areas yeah we are we're coming up on our on our our last break but when we come
00:36:21.600
back when we come back i want to turn the situation here around a little bit and talk about
00:36:26.660
pie in the sky what can we do to solve it come back behind the border battle human events daily
00:36:34.020
okay we are back with our final segment here human events sunday behind the border battle final
00:36:43.440
segment you know we've gotten to some rough stuff here on the show uh we've been having hitting some
00:36:48.340
definite low spots but i wanted to also mention we just talked about the heroes but i also want to get
00:36:53.400
into solutions because i think so often we talk about the border people know it's bad they realize
00:36:58.060
how harrowing it is what can we do about it and so i want to kind of go through the the circle here
00:37:03.600
and ask let's start with uh let's start with steve and i'll ask all you guys same question blank check
00:37:09.220
unlimited budget um you know assume that you're going to get whatever executive order you need etc etc the
00:37:16.180
courts are going to go your way what is what does right look like how do you solve this what's your
00:37:21.180
task force like what's the authorities what do you do steve you know um i think it's a multi-pronged
00:37:27.720
solution right i think um the private security side of it is going to be a big part of it you got to
00:37:33.960
disrupt you got to disrupt it you got to make it very difficult for them to be able to continue
00:37:37.620
uh operations as business as usual right so i think for me obviously in the space the drones part
00:37:46.920
of it is really good at at capturing them and putting actually a drone solution together but
00:37:52.980
also being able to when they do the pickups on the highways to have a drone team that's dedicated to
00:37:59.500
tracking these to their stash houses and all the way through the channel so you can disrupt the entire
00:38:05.420
channel that means going into south america finding where the root of the octopus starts and then
00:38:12.980
actually cutting off that entire leg yes it's going in and it's extracting the root out you keep
00:38:19.580
cutting these branches on our side of the border that just keeps growing another branch another leg
00:38:24.260
i think you got to go straight into the root track it from the root and disrupt the entire supply chain
00:38:30.520
so are you and and just to just go on with that are you talking would that look like military would
00:38:36.140
that look like national security agencies or just kind of an all the above sort of approach
00:38:41.240
um i i think that it's got to be the the two the two governments got to be working together right
00:38:47.500
i mean that's that's the biggest biggest problem here you know somebody's got to want to stop it
00:38:53.040
look i don't run the military but when you stop a hole when you create a container system where you
00:38:58.520
you know you rehire the border patrol that you fired right you bring in the resources um you put you
00:39:04.980
put up that that that that front um you track them you stop them in their tracks left and right
00:39:10.840
it's real disruptive you're grabbing their drugs you're stopping the sex traffickers you're dropping
00:39:16.020
the child traffickers you know i feel that you know and then you're able to trade chase them and here's
00:39:23.200
the thing we we chase tornadoes right with high-speed drones racing teams and you do it safely because
00:39:28.780
they know once they get past a certain speed limit the dps border patrol border sheriffs have to back
00:39:35.420
down they can't race through these towns so these getaways you stop them with using high-speed drones
00:39:41.880
that they don't even know they're being tracked and you start hitting them in those areas and using
00:39:46.520
technology you know you get them a bunch of times it's gonna it's gonna no i agree definitely
00:39:53.900
technology is gonna play a huge part of that bryce let's go same question to you unlimited budget
00:39:58.080
unlimited authorities what do you do yeah i'm gonna answer it a little bit differently though
00:40:02.220
because i think there's a short-term intermediate and then long-term solution but i'll hit you with
00:40:06.740
the short term if you have a governor even with a political will to do something on their own border
00:40:14.360
i think you can solve it um and and kind of create the pressure on the other states to also do something
00:40:20.200
similar what i would do is i would augment the sheriff's departments down arizona where we've spent a lot
00:40:27.800
of time those guys already know where to go where things are happening where the drugs are coming in
00:40:34.300
where the personnel is coming in and if you declared war on the cartels in those areas you could start to
00:40:42.920
button things up by providing real resources to them again augment their forces you know we we have a
00:40:49.280
you know a um a vocational training school for military veterans you could repurpose military vets
00:40:55.840
and you know put them in service train them uh have them work alongside dps have them work alongside
00:41:03.000
the border patrol have them work uh with the sheriffs and again augment and bolster their forces
00:41:09.160
in order to say that okay this border is shut down and if you did that even in just certain areas it will
00:41:15.640
force the flow into the other areas and then you're going to have to have a cohesive response across our
00:41:23.280
entire border if you have a you know federal administration that wants to do this it's going
00:41:28.720
to be similar you're going to have to have somebody that has the political will to say that it ends here
00:41:33.960
and really increase the penalties for traffickers you know really work hard you know with the mexican
00:41:40.120
government to make sure that we're not getting the fentanyl and the human trafficking in but you could do it
00:41:45.000
not agree um marcus same question yes um thank you for allowing me to go after the two experts but
00:41:52.880
i think i would like to piggyback of all of them but i think legislatively we need to designate the
00:41:59.500
cartels as a terrorist organization they are absolutely stronger than isis they have more pool
00:42:07.520
than any other organization in the world to me financially they money launder through china
00:42:12.040
they have relationships with them that's where they get the fentanyl precursors is from china
00:42:16.740
um this isn't some conspiracy this is just actual where they produce the products the department of
00:42:22.160
justice just had a huge indictment of one of the not just the um chinese communist party members that
00:42:28.640
was conducting the fentanyl precursors but also the money launderers was just indicted forget the next
00:42:34.320
guy's name off the top of my head but he was indicted for laundering money for the cartels through china
00:42:39.420
and then back into the united states and mexico that's right so if we designate them as a terrorist
00:42:45.200
organization and jason jones does this expertly through uh in episode six as well as the documentary
00:42:50.340
series but we have to cut them off and that way internationally they're now known as a terrorist
00:42:55.280
organization which brings attention to them where we are forced in to take measures that are necessary
00:43:01.300
to prevent them from further doing any business with us um also would restrict business doing
00:43:06.620
operations with mexico and the short being until it is audited and made sure that mexico's dealings are
00:43:13.120
not infiltrated by the cartels because as a humanitarian as most people care about other
00:43:18.140
human beings or as they proclaim they do we have to be able to take care of each individual and for
00:43:23.100
people that actually want to come into this country and we want to for their well-being if you say that
00:43:27.680
you're oh well these are just migrants then you have to take care of them where they're at and where
00:43:31.740
they're coming from and see that this terrorist organization is slaughtering thousands of people
00:43:36.180
making 5 000 people miss a year where they just don't end up in an obituary they're missing so we
00:43:42.660
have to understand that this terrorist organization is a bigger threat than any other middle east
00:43:47.080
organization to the america's sovereignty so label them as a terrorist organization and then actually
00:43:53.120
praying and understanding that these lives of all the individuals involved i actually had the
00:43:58.720
opportunity to tackle a coyote uh coming in and uh cast a grand and i asked him questions just basic
00:44:05.340
questions and this is a kid that just owes money you know like some of these people owe money to the
00:44:09.700
cartels they're not actually part of the cartel but they are forced to do it because it's either
00:44:13.420
lead or silver you either get paid or you get murdered so if you care about people you will force
00:44:20.040
as a people we have to make our voices heard we have to go and get legislation done to where they are
00:44:26.760
labeled as terrorist organization and that we want to take care of people and we want to take care of
00:44:31.340
our own people whether it's fentanyl or just violence and crime and all the different organizations
00:44:35.820
sprouting across america that are infiltrated by the cartels with human trafficking over 20 000 kids are
00:44:42.420
missing due to human trafficking we have to do something and it starts with us as individuals
00:44:47.760
raising up and actually saying we won't stand for this anymore no i couldn't agree more thank you so much
00:44:53.900
for that uh lee xi jur was the name of the uh the launderer by the way lee xi jur who was indicted
00:45:00.400
and convicted of laundering but of course with this chinese communist party they're just going to find
00:45:04.540
another one it's the same deal with these cartels they're going to find another one you know for me i
00:45:08.460
i i don't know you know you guys mentioned it so i'm gonna have to throw it out there it would
00:45:12.660
certainly be nice if we had some sort of i don't know physical barrier separating the north and south
00:45:20.460
almost like a um almost like a wall you know some kind of uh yeah let me hit that really quick
00:45:28.260
because there's confusion on this wall you know a wall is not a perfect barrier but where it is
00:45:34.260
complete and we saw it complete you're talking lights sensors cameras you know all of the technology
00:45:42.300
that they put on this wall the wall is impressive and in those areas where it exists you know they're not
00:45:48.800
crossing there they're going around and the where the where they are coming in is where the wall is
00:45:54.960
missing so you know it's not going to be a perfect barrier but it will slow them down right you're
00:45:59.660
going to create that friction time for the drones to be able to get there time for the teams be able
00:46:03.800
to get there and you're also what you're doing is you're channelizing it so that uh you know where
00:46:08.900
those areas are going to be so to you know to steve to your point for these guys getting overwhelmed
00:46:13.360
then they'll be able to focus on hopefully those areas we're down to our last two minutes guys let
00:46:18.740
me just add real quick with the safe rounds go right ahead real quick so it's a simple solution
00:46:24.760
when you said a blank check you don't need a blank check you can actually with the system that we
00:46:30.040
worked with bryce at covered six there's a solution that is substantially less way more effective
00:46:35.820
that in the private sector if shared with the public sector could be a huge solution into reducing
00:46:42.720
the ink the incoming bad elements and a better approach to apprehending people safely and actually
00:46:49.840
being able to stop some of this stuff that's going on you know no absolutely i mean it would be so easy
00:46:57.060
to do that i wish and and back to bryce's point we just need the political will everyone knows where
00:47:03.620
to follow me human events uh marcus where can people follow you oh well they can look at senate 48
00:47:09.440
yeah think of a good senate 48 that's a production company that kent and i both own and operate um i
00:47:15.620
would encourage you to actually watch the great global reset a documentary that uh jack is also a
00:47:20.580
part of as i believe it as uh bryce mentioned earlier as a marcus and i got frisked at the uh the world
00:47:27.300
economic forum by the world wef police didn't even get dinner out of that one no yeah but i believe
00:47:33.900
that is the catalyst for all of this uh this is the destabilization of our own country uh utilizing
00:47:40.000
foreign assets to basically break us apart from within um so i believe if you watch that uh that
00:47:46.060
will be a great precursor in understanding as to why the devastation at the border is happening no they
00:47:50.640
go together they certainly go together steve where can people go to access you and get access to your
00:47:54.300
work yeah they can i'm i'm i'm an open book steve slepcevic uh you can find our company strategic
00:48:01.200
response partners um disaster management company srp24.com amen bryce you're uh same question for
00:48:08.960
you what are your coordinates yeah you can follow me at super bryce eddie on instagram or i'm the
00:48:15.040
host of liberty station on salem's podcast network and so you can find me there all right and we are
00:48:20.360
going to make sure to put all of that information here in the description of course on the podcast
00:48:24.340
side we'll have it down for everybody i want to say thank you again to the panel thank you guys for
00:48:28.500
your work outside of this and then also your work into making border battle this incredible success
00:48:34.320
that it is and i think we can all agree that we pray that all of this humanitarian disaster
00:48:39.800
eventually will be ended in our lifetimes ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay