Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - SUNDAY SPECIAL： LIVE FROM CPAC WITH POSO, LIBBY EMMONS, AND NATALIE WINTERS

00:00:00.000 Speaking of diarrhea, Tucker Carlson of Fox News, yesterday we learned that the Department

00:00:19.760 of Energy, you probably know about this, believes with what they described as low confidence

00:00:23.520 that COVID may have leaked from a lab in China.

00:00:26.720 Eight federal agencies now have weighed in with their assessments, four believe COVID

00:00:31.140 came from natural transmission, two say it was a lab leak, and two are still undecided.

00:00:36.780 In other words, we don't know.

00:00:38.500 But the dingbats now see this as some kind of proof that they were right, that the virus 1.00

00:00:42.340 came from a Chinese leak at a laboratory, which by the way, it might have.

00:00:45.820 The point is, we didn't know then, we still don't know now, but what we did know is that

00:00:50.360 Trump and his buddies blaming the Chinese resulted in a great deal of anti-Asian American sentiment

00:00:55.640 and even violence in this country.

00:00:57.240 And that's why it was irresponsible for the president to call it the China virus.

00:01:01.740 Trump unleashed this xenophobia.

00:01:05.000 He stopped allowing Chinese people to come to the country.

00:01:08.940 He then started calling it the...

00:01:12.060 Don't even say it.

00:01:13.160 Don't even say it.

00:01:14.060 And he kept on saying China, China, and doing this thing where I was even concerned as someone

00:01:21.800 who had lost family members for Manny to even bring it up.

00:01:26.000 And that is really sad.

00:01:27.340 The last guy before Biden said anything about this, he made it about Asian people.

00:01:33.580 And I'm sure Jon Stewart didn't realize that that's what was happening because I'm sure

00:01:39.780 he didn't know what was going on all over the country with Asian folks getting smacked 1.00

00:01:44.040 and hit and people saying stuff to them about bringing the disease.

00:01:49.240 I mean, this was what was happening.

00:01:51.700 And if you know who had not started it with that, had he not made it about that, had he

00:01:56.840 said, listen, this might have come out of a lab, it probably would have been listened

00:02:02.100 to a lot different.

00:02:03.420 So as you note, Brett, the FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of

00:02:11.800 the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan.

00:02:16.660 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard for a very special live to tape episode here

00:02:22.660 of Human Events Sunday special.

00:02:25.500 We're very excited.

00:02:26.180 We're here at CPAC on the sidelines, the very same set for Real America's Voice, where we're

00:02:31.440 doing War Room.

00:02:32.220 We're doing all the shows this week.

00:02:33.620 And I'm very, very delighted and honored and privileged to have with me here both the great

00:02:40.740 Natalie Winters and Libby Emmons, who was just named Editor-in-Chief of Human Events.

00:02:45.340 Guys, thank you so much for being here.

00:02:46.800 Thank you.

00:02:47.200 And congratulations to you.

00:02:48.520 Thank you so much.

00:02:49.380 Thank you.

00:02:50.040 You know, Natalie, I've been telling Steve that, you know, you actually got your start,

00:02:54.820 if I remember correctly, as a Human Events writer.

00:02:57.180 I did.

00:02:58.060 I think I published two or three articles there while it was under the control of the

00:03:02.780 wonderful Raheem Kassam.

00:03:03.740 That's right.

00:03:04.320 Yes.

00:03:05.000 I think we'll chamberlain.

00:03:06.600 But then obviously, things happened.

00:03:09.720 There was some turnover.

00:03:10.640 Now here we are.

00:03:11.500 Now there we are.

00:03:12.440 And now that Libby's in charge, that's why I keep saying Natalie Winters, the once and

00:03:16.320 future, once and future investigative journalist for Human Events.

00:03:21.020 So we'll talk to Steve about your contract.

00:03:23.520 You know, the first article I ever published, it was called The Weaponization of Media.

00:03:29.300 Wow.

00:03:29.400 And I feel like, and that was, gosh, three years ago.

00:03:32.480 And that's what we live in.

00:03:33.380 And now, weaponization is like the word of the year.

00:03:36.300 Well, yeah, we have like a, there's a congressional committee on the weaponization of government.

00:03:41.800 So basically, I called it.

00:03:43.660 I mean, the thing is, though, and we're going to talk about Wuhan in a second, because I want

00:03:46.960 to respond to Director Ray's comments, but if you look at the impact of your journalism

00:03:52.900 for, and for the audience out there, you just had your birthday.

00:03:57.160 I know you said it publicly, so I'm not putting you on the spot.

00:03:59.180 You're doxing me.

00:04:00.640 Natalie, which birthday did you just have?

00:04:03.520 I just turned the big 22, in the words of Taylor Swift.

00:04:07.040 22.

00:04:07.760 So.

00:04:08.240 Congratulations.

00:04:08.580 At 22, you've had more impact on journalism than most, in your journalism, than most of

00:04:17.480 the people that go to 10 years of journalism school that start out as like the little staff

00:04:23.320 writer at the Times or wherever they are.

00:04:27.040 Guess what?

00:04:27.960 They would kill to have a congressional committee based off of their work.

00:04:33.100 They would kill to be able to interview the people you've interviewed, to be able to be

00:04:36.500 just on shows with the people that you were on with.

00:04:38.700 They never raise up to that level.

00:04:40.380 But because they have this imprimatur of being with the New York Times or the Washington Post,

00:04:45.380 that suddenly we give them all this flexion.

00:04:46.940 So I want to talk about the issue that presents itself before us today, that finally, after

00:04:51.840 three years of the war room, of us just pounding this down, you going through receipt by receipt,

00:04:58.480 day by day, coming up with the names of every, you know, digging through LinkedIn to find

00:05:02.860 the, you know, who's involved with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:05:05.600 Finally, the words that emanate from the mouth of director of the FBI, he admits it, that

00:05:10.800 Wuhan was in fact behind COVID-19.

00:05:13.080 How does it feel to be validated on such a high level?

00:05:15.200 Well, thank you for your very kind words.

00:05:17.240 And I'm very fortunate to work with wonderful people like yourself and Steve, who've been

00:05:21.480 just such amazing mentors, but colleagues and friends.

00:05:26.500 But it really is amazing, I think, what we have uncovered about Wuhan.

00:05:29.980 And people always say to me, some of the mainstream media detractors, you know, say, Natalie,

00:05:34.840 you never got your master's in, you know, Chinese studies, you never went to journalism

00:05:38.700 school.

00:05:39.780 And while I think it's easy to mock the institutions, because you are right, they don't confer any

00:05:44.660 knowledge.

00:05:45.200 I having just graduated from the University of Chicago, I really didn't learn anything.

00:05:49.180 I just learned stuff that I had to unlearn.

00:05:51.800 But I think there's something more nefarious going on with these institutions.

00:05:54.820 And it sort of dovetails with my reporting.

00:05:57.060 And I think why there was such a massive cover up campaign about the origins of COVID.

00:06:00.580 Because it's not just that you go to these schools, right, these journalism schools at

00:06:04.320 these prestigious universities, and get indoctrinated by, you know, I would argue, kind of the far

00:06:09.100 left woke ideology.

00:06:11.060 You get indoctrinated by the Chinese Communist Party.

00:06:13.920 The CCP has poured millions, tens of millions of dollars, I would argue hundreds of millions

00:06:18.160 of dollars into some of America's most premier and prestigious universities.

00:06:22.260 And I always say the CCP is not a silent investor.

00:06:24.560 They're not like Americans in how we conduct foreign policy, where we just give Ukraine, 0.99

00:06:28.740 you know, billions of dollars in exchange for basically nothing.

00:06:31.420 Which we're going to be talking about in a second.

00:06:32.620 Yes, good to you.

00:06:34.100 But in exchange for this money, they want to pump out experts who you see every day on

00:06:38.700 the mainstream media, who defend the Chinese Communist Party.

00:06:42.400 Sometimes it's explicit, but it's also more implicit, too. 0.65

00:06:45.180 Remember, we're all xenophobes, we're all racists, we're all Nazis, because we had the 0.76

00:06:50.660 temerity to call out the Chinese Communist Party, Shenzhen Li, the Bat Lady. 0.96

00:06:55.280 I remember, wait, we'll feel back the curtain here a little bit.

00:06:58.080 I can remember getting a call from Natalie Winters right before you dropped your first

00:07:03.200 ever article, or I guess you were going to do a come on war room about it, and you were

00:07:06.800 like, Jack, how do I say this name?

00:07:09.720 Is it Xi, Shenzhen...

00:07:11.040 Hey, I always have to have my facts right, because if not, the fact checkers will do a

00:07:14.880 story.

00:07:15.120 Natalie Winters mispronounce it.

00:07:16.680 But you know what's so funny?

00:07:17.280 They did that to me with wrong claim ones, actually.

00:07:18.540 Remember, the fact checkers used to use Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers to correct

00:07:23.340 my articles, and I told Alan Duke, he's the CEO of an editor of two of these stories on

00:07:27.380 war room, I said, how is that not a conflict of interest?

00:07:29.600 Which, by the way, go back and watch the struggle session, the classic, it was like the 4th of

00:07:33.880 July, right, last year or two years ago, maybe, where it's me, Natalie Winters, Raheem

00:07:38.280 Kassam, and Alan Duke, and we just put him through a struggle session of his own words.

00:07:42.060 Because he's funded by TikTok, he's funded by the Chinese Communist Party.

00:07:44.300 His own words and actions.

00:07:45.340 There's a lot of that going around, by the way.

00:07:46.660 And this idea, though, that they're finally admitting the things that we've all known,

00:07:53.500 that we've all said, that we're just calling it out like it is, I have to put it this way.

00:07:58.480 I think, and it's interesting because for me, my focus when I was in the Navy, when I was

00:08:03.880 living in China, my focus has always been the CCP for years and years and years and years.

00:08:07.460 I was like the guy in the corner saying, yeah, I think Iraq is whatever, but the CCP thing

00:08:13.100 is kind of growing.

00:08:14.300 We should be careful, we should do something about that, we should take notice.

00:08:17.140 And they said, ah, you don't know what you're talking about, that's fine, just go write

00:08:19.380 your report, sit in the corner, you know, learn your Mandarin, whatever, nobody cares, that

00:08:23.180 won't be useful.

00:08:24.020 Okay, you know, see they're building these islands, and now they're weaponizing the islands,

00:08:27.780 or they're stealing our trade routes.

00:08:29.440 Like, okay, fine, whatever.

00:08:30.380 That eventually, they are turning on them, but there's an interesting piece, because what

00:08:37.600 do you not hear Chris Wray talk about in that clip?

00:08:39.940 You don't hear him say the name Peter Daszak, you don't hear him talk about Ralph Barak, you

00:08:44.240 don't hear him talk about EcoHealth Alliance, and he certainly doesn't talk about the fact

00:08:47.960 that there were elements of the U.S. government that were involved in this gain-of-function

00:08:51.920 research that ultimately led, specifically on the humanized mice portion of this, where

00:09:00.200 it's gotten into humanized mice a different story, that this was their contribution to

00:09:06.080 the research, yet all of that is covered up.

00:09:09.940 It's also really interesting, because Chris Wray used a word that you don't typically hear

00:09:14.060 when the establishment comes out to support the lab leak theory.

00:09:17.360 He didn't call it an accident, he called it an incident, which is very different, right?

00:09:21.160 Because an accident means that it wasn't intentionally released.

00:09:25.140 Incident, right, that diction there, leaves the possibility of that open.

00:09:29.020 And I would argue that it was a Freudian slip on his part, because I think the heart of

00:09:32.380 the issue, what you're talking about, it really goes to the broader issue of the Chinese Communist

00:09:36.260 Party, which is that they can't just inflict damage here in the United States acting independently.

00:09:41.860 They're always reliant upon the American establishment to kind of co-mingle with them and create,

00:09:46.720 whether it's bioweapons, whether it's economic chaos, you name it, right?

00:09:51.100 It's a merger. We're looking at a merger.

00:09:51.580 It's an elite merger.

00:09:52.360 It's not elite compromise, it's elite merger.

00:09:55.560 And the NIH, I mean, they were listed on the Wuhan Institute of Virology website as one of the foremost partners.

00:10:00.780 You can read the studies, read the primary documents, and you can see the grant money from Fauci.

00:10:05.420 It was not just designated as going to Peter Dalshack and EcoHealth Alliance.

00:10:09.540 It was directly given to, I will say it correctly for you,

00:10:13.140 Chiu-Jung Lee and other Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers.

00:10:17.080 Believe me, they've erased these studies.

00:10:18.560 Every time you say it, by the way, on the air, I always remember that phone call.

00:10:22.220 I said, I realized that Natalie Winters, all she cares about is getting it right.

00:10:26.080 She just wants to get it right.

00:10:27.620 So if I know, hey, I know a guy speaks Mandarin, I'll call him, how do you say this again?

00:10:31.040 How do I get it right?

00:10:32.200 And we've been right all the time.

00:10:34.000 And we've been right all the time.

00:10:35.220 I'm getting tired of being right.

00:10:36.540 But what we're seeing here, I think absolutely number one, is a limited hangout

00:10:40.340 because they're giving us Wuhan to protect Fauci, to protect NIH, to protect Barrick, to protect all of us.

00:10:46.520 But on the bigger part here, and before we switch gears in the next segment to go talk Ukraine,

00:10:51.640 that they're also trying to set up a situation where we talk about it like it was an incident,

00:10:57.360 but we get the CCP off the hook when they owe us billions, if not trillions of dollars

00:11:05.980 for the tens of thousands of lives lost, for the economic man hours lost,

00:11:11.920 for everything that was lost to us in all of this time, all of these lives,

00:11:18.020 the destruction that was wreaked upon the world, the fact that they did this,

00:11:21.240 and it seems like they're getting away with it.

00:11:23.500 Of course, and it's always been, I would argue, about recalculating what the problem is about COVID.

00:11:29.020 They want to make it about pandemic prevention and mass vaccination and power by the government

00:11:32.960 and not about taking down the CCP.

00:11:35.720 And that's honestly why they have quashed the lab leak theory

00:11:39.440 and promoted this natural origins theory to push for pandemic prevention,

00:11:43.580 which is, I would argue, one of the largest rackets known to mankind.

00:11:46.240 100%.

00:11:46.720 So in the next segment here, we are going to talk about another racket that's coming up.

00:11:50.860 It's called war. 0.94

00:11:51.740 Stay tuned.

00:11:54.160 There are no leaders to charge.

00:11:55.880 There's no one to hold to account just yet.

00:11:58.020 And if nobody ever arrests Vladimir Putin and his group, what does justice look like?

00:12:02.500 Well, at this stage, the investigation is the most important thing.

00:12:06.900 Accountability is a long-term process.

00:12:09.200 World War II, Germany was still holding war crimes trials as recently as last year.

00:12:13.720 Same thing is happening in Yugoslavia for the crimes that were committed decades ago.

00:12:18.860 So at this stage, it's about collecting the evidence, preparing cases for when the opportunity presents itself,

00:12:24.520 either a regime change in Russia or somebody travels outside into Europe on a vacation or a visit.

00:12:32.600 They can never escape accountability, no matter how long it takes.

00:12:35.320 And we're back here live from CPAC with Libby Emmons as well as Natalie Winters.

00:12:41.000 The best of human events and the best of the war room.

00:12:44.240 Now, Libby, I wanted to get into here this huge breaking story that we put out this week

00:12:50.340 about Alexander Vindman, the receipts that we dropped on Lieutenant Colonel Chow Thief himself.

00:12:57.260 And by the way, I don't know if you saw, but he's very, very upset with us on Twitter.

00:13:00.720 I did see that.

00:13:01.720 Yeah, he doesn't seem to like that we exposed this.

00:13:03.660 So walk us through what actually happened.

00:13:06.660 What were the receipts that we dropped?

00:13:08.820 And then I'll explain his response.

00:13:10.580 Okay.

00:13:11.280 So Alexander Vindman was seeking a lucrative defense contract from the U.S.

00:13:17.440 Apparently he's still seeking, by the way.

00:13:19.360 Apparently he's still seeking.

00:13:20.000 He's still working on this.

00:13:21.620 He calls it philanthropic.

00:13:24.960 He wanted to use with Trident support, pitch to deck on Ukraine Weapons System Sustainment Center

00:13:31.700 to address problems with Ukraine's weapons management.

00:13:35.460 And this would be to repair machinery and equipment and weapons that were coming in from NATO

00:13:42.260 and to then get them out to the front lines on Ukraine.

00:13:46.320 So what you're saying is he wants defense contracts specifically for these vehicles,

00:13:53.360 these tanks that we hear that we're sending to Ukraine.

00:13:55.520 He's saying, look, these are American.

00:13:57.020 These are NATO tanks.

00:13:58.100 We need American hands and American business working on this to funding the resupply, 0.86

00:14:03.560 the maintenance on these tanks.

00:14:04.860 And who better, who better to receive the maintenance contracts than Alexander Vindman himself

00:14:11.820 and his brother Yevigny Vindman and all of these people that played a role in starting

00:14:17.980 the war themselves, shall I say, an overblown role, an outsized role in starting the war.

00:14:25.140 Because, of course, they worked to destabilize the relationship between the U.S., Ukraine, 0.96

00:14:29.260 and Russia that led us to this point.

00:14:31.120 He lied to the government during the impeachment trial of President Trump.

00:14:36.000 About the perfect phone call.

00:14:37.320 About the very perfect phone call.

00:14:39.080 At a time, and it's like a whole other explanation of, remember, Vindman's, or excuse me,

00:14:44.540 Zelensky at the time stood by President Trump.

00:14:48.400 Right.

00:14:49.360 But we didn't believe him then.

00:14:51.380 But now we're supposed to believe that everything Zelensky says is gospel.

00:14:55.020 But this is the same guy that you said we shouldn't believe during Trump's impeachment.

00:14:58.560 Yes, that's right.

00:14:59.080 Right, because Zelensky was, at the time, I think it was 2019, and he was talking about

00:15:04.940 the phone call.

00:15:05.620 He was, you know, saying that it was just a conversation about why the prosecutor had

00:15:11.600 been fired.

00:15:13.560 Why was the prosecutor fired?

00:15:14.580 Why was the prosecutor fired?

00:15:16.280 Trump wanted to know why the prosecutor was fired after Joe Biden had pressured Ukraine

00:15:22.100 to fire this prosecutor who was allegedly looking into his...

00:15:25.880 Withholding a billion-dollar IMF loan.

00:15:27.960 Withholding money, telling the Ukraine government to fire a prosecutor who was investigating an

00:15:34.740 energy company on whose board his son, Hunter, sat.

00:15:38.900 But Biden went on, did interviews.

00:15:41.700 He bragged about his withholding of this money.

00:15:46.280 He bragged about getting Ukraine to fire this prosecutor.

00:15:49.420 And then now it's denied.

00:15:50.620 Trump came in and wanted to know more details about that.

00:15:55.340 And there were allegations that money was withheld because of that.

00:15:59.160 And suddenly, what they did was they flipped it around so that the very thing that Biden

00:16:07.000 did, they impeached President Trump for.

00:16:10.400 For, exactly.

00:16:11.600 So here's Vindman's response.

00:16:13.240 He writes, on my piece, which I'm writing, what did he call it?

00:16:17.020 The UKWSSC.

00:16:21.820 And he writes, thanks for the advert.

00:16:24.420 I'm trying to get logistics in place to help Ukraine win the war and secure America.

00:16:29.460 It doesn't ever explain how that works.

00:16:30.580 It doesn't make any sense.

00:16:31.760 I'm looking for philanthropic contributions to get it going, which means he didn't get

00:16:36.640 the contract, which is the best part.

00:16:37.240 He did not get the $12 million in initial funding.

00:16:40.240 Reach out if you support the cause of democracy and U.S. national security.

00:16:45.200 Then in the follow-up tweet, attorneys, is there a defamation suit here?

00:16:49.340 I want to tell you something about it.

00:16:50.240 This is not a defamation suit situation.

00:16:52.320 It's not a great legal strategy if you're admitting that the thing I accused you of

00:16:57.500 is true and then turning around and claiming that it's defamation.

00:17:01.560 Yeah, that doesn't exactly work.

00:17:03.380 I know there's some lefty judges out there, but just saying, man.

00:17:09.900 There's a line in the Bible about building your house on sand.

00:17:12.360 Don't even try it, child.

00:17:13.920 Yeah, that's not what you want to do.

00:17:14.420 But please, if you want to go, Alexander, this is between me.

00:17:17.560 If you want to do, please sue human events so that we can get discovery on all of your

00:17:23.560 communications with the Ukrainian government going back five years.

00:17:28.240 Please, please sue us.

00:17:30.440 I'm not going to say that.

00:17:32.020 Sorry.

00:17:33.440 Technically my boss here.

00:17:34.620 But Natalie, so you're hearing this, you're digging into this.

00:17:41.300 What is your sense of it?

00:17:43.380 How brazen is it to have the guy, the very guy who started this thing, now involved in,

00:17:49.600 apparently he wasn't even able to do it, which is actually just funny in its own right,

00:17:53.200 was trying to profit off of the very war he started?

00:17:55.760 Well, this is actually a very interesting story because there was a wonderful Guardian article

00:18:00.400 I got to tweet this at him while we're talking about it.

00:18:02.900 That came out a few days ago that was talking about how Alexander Vindman is actually not

00:18:07.240 an anomaly, but there's been a trend in the United States where dozens of people who really

00:18:12.340 are the swamp personified, right, people like Alexander Vindman, but these lobbying shops,

00:18:17.920 Republicans and Democrats have been registering as pro bono foreign agents on behalf of Ukraine,

00:18:23.880 saying that what they're doing is basically a philanthropic venture.

00:18:27.000 They're just trying to kind of help raise Ukraine's profile here in the West, get them armaments,

00:18:32.500 but really I would argue get them propagandistic media coverage here in the United States and

00:18:36.740 shape opinions.

00:18:38.000 But what's so interesting and what this investigation uncovered and what we had, of course, broken

00:18:43.120 at the war room a few months prior is that these same lobbying firms that are registering

00:18:48.180 allegedly pro bono on behalf of Ukraine, while their other clients are actually basically

00:18:53.800 the military industrial complex, Boeing, Raytheon, the companies who are profiting

00:18:57.440 from the continuation of this forever war.

00:19:00.260 And I'll take this story even a step further and, of course, tied to the Chinese Communist 0.72

00:19:03.960 Party, because what else would I do?

00:19:05.900 But a lot of these lobbying firms are also the same companies that are working on behalf

00:19:10.620 of the Chinese Communist Party, whether directly embassies, foreign embassies, but also

00:19:15.100 these kind of foreign influence groups like the China United States Exchange Foundation.

00:19:18.360 And why that's so relevant and important is because besides the Ukrainian oligarchs and

00:19:23.240 people like maybe Alexander Vindman, although it sounds like his business endeavors aren't

00:19:26.860 going too well, the number one beneficiaries of Ukraine turning into a forever war is the 0.95

00:19:33.580 Chinese Communist Party, right?

00:19:35.280 Because the United States...

00:19:36.120 Well, it's sort of fascinating, too, because now we're seeing China had put out their intent,

00:19:40.500 you know, they had like a 12-point peace plan, which I'd be interested to hear what you think

00:19:44.400 about that. But also there was talk about China supplying Russia with weapons. So then what we

00:19:50.780 have is this war between Ukraine and Russia turns into a war between the U.S., China and Russia.

00:19:58.000 And that seems to be exactly the kind of thing we should be seeking to not get ourselves involved in.

00:20:03.200 This is like political illiteracy, because if you understand the state of the world right now,

00:20:09.040 and we talk about this on War Room and on Human Events every day, there are three great powers

00:20:13.060 in the world, three great powers, three nuclear, et cetera, right? They have these massive nuclear

00:20:17.740 arsenals. There's America, there's the U.S. Excuse me, America, Russia, China, right?

00:20:22.480 Count us twice.

00:20:23.200 America, Russia, China. And if you are the U.S., you want to do everything you can to isolate 0.68

00:20:31.820 the CCP and break up the CCP's relationship with Russia.

00:20:37.700 And instead what we're doing is driving them closer together.

00:20:39.660 Instead of driving them together and then demonizing both of them at the same time.

00:20:44.420 Right.

00:20:44.920 Into an alliance.

00:20:45.940 And also we have China pressuring Saudi Arabia to sell oil in Yuan.

00:20:51.580 Of course.

00:20:51.960 Which is a huge problem, of course. You have China soliciting Russia to buy oil from them instead,

00:20:59.400 you know, especially after the U.S. basically blew up the pipelines to Europe.

00:21:03.820 Yep. Yeah, it really seems like we are telling our enemies that they should unify fully against

00:21:10.260 us in every conceivable sphere, economically, socially, and with weapons.

00:21:15.020 How is the CCP, with this type of profiteering that we're seeing from Vindman here, this is the

00:21:23.020 very same type of thing you've seen with CCP money, isn't it?

00:21:25.500 Of course. I always say that the way that the Chinese Communist Party has overtaken the

00:21:30.700 United States is through the lobbying firms, is through the law firms. And not just because

00:21:35.780 they have them on retainer, right? So they're advocating for them, whether it's the embassy

00:21:41.100 itself or front groups like the China United States Exchange Foundation, all these very nice

00:21:46.440 sounding groups, which their motives are certainly not nice. But the other, I think, more nefarious

00:21:51.100 aspect to it, is that these lobbying firms, their other clients, not just our big business,

00:21:57.440 which, of course, they're not going to bite the hand that feeds them, the Chinese Communist 0.99

00:22:00.660 Party, but they also work for the military industrial complex. And like I was telling Libby,

00:22:04.640 the biggest, I would say, beneficiaries of Ukraine turning into a forever war is the Chinese Communist 1.00

00:22:09.160 Party, because it's just a waste of more and more, not just American taxpayer dollars, but

00:22:14.100 I think we're going to get to the point where it becomes Americans' lives, as Zelensky has

00:22:19.180 demanded, and he seems to always get what he wants.

00:22:21.640 We're going to talk about that in the very next segment.

00:22:23.980 I'm doing so good.

00:22:25.520 You're teeing me up. You're just teeing me up. It's almost like we pre-planned this or something.

00:22:29.300 But what I do want to also point out, though, is that there is a third audience that I think

00:22:33.140 a lot of people are missing in terms of all of this. It's not just, you know, Russia and

00:22:37.040 China and then the U.S. There's also the concept of the global south. There is this, which

00:22:43.580 is a, by the way, population-wise is far exceeds the global north. So you're talking

00:22:48.140 South America. You're talking Africa. You're talking India. You're talking Southeast Asia,

00:22:52.540 South Asia, right? All of these countries are looking to see who is going to come out

00:22:58.900 on top of this. Who do we want to work with? Do we want to work with the people that are

00:23:03.440 constantly talking about war, war, war, war, destruction, and oh, by the way, your kids

00:23:08.780 are going to be marching with the drag queens? Or do we want to work with the people that, 0.99

00:23:12.540 okay, maybe we don't like how China runs their country. Maybe we don't like how Russia runs

00:23:15.440 their country. But you know what? They don't force that stuff on us.

00:23:17.620 Well, and it is really interesting to me that the same leftists and progressives who claim

00:23:21.660 that colonialization is this terrible thing and cultural appropriation are terrible things

00:23:27.580 are going out there into Africa and Rwanda, pushing abortion, pushing trans issues on all 0.98

00:23:33.460 of these people that don't want it. They are culturally colonizing these places themselves

00:23:38.500 with their own warped and perverted ideas.

00:23:40.660 Coming up on the end of the segment, but in the next, I want to get into a little controversy

00:23:46.000 that happened this week involving a deepfake, Joe Biden, something that I made, people got

00:23:51.800 very, very upset about. Right back.

00:23:55.220 So this week, I made a deepfake of Joe Biden that got a little bit of attention. Newsweek,

00:24:04.220 Snopes, USA Today, they're very, very upset with me. Because what I did was, I kind of

00:24:10.560 dialed the calendar forward about a year. And I had Biden coming up and saying, in order

00:24:17.380 to meet Russia's illegal occupation of Ukraine and China's blockade of Taiwan, I am now instituting

00:24:25.380 the Selective Service Act. Anyone who turns 20 years old as a calendar year, 2023, male, female,

00:24:34.040 or other, will now be required to register for service with the United States military.

00:24:40.860 Military. And people lost their minds. Because I saw, I said where they're going. And I showed

00:24:48.100 everyone. And so people were saying, well, how, you know, and I had people on the right who said,

00:24:53.120 how could you do that? Why would you make something like this? And they said, and I said,

00:24:58.480 first of all, first of all, it's, we're trying to prevent World War III. Okay, we're trying to

00:25:02.960 prevent the military industrial complex and Joe Biden from doing this. But second of all, this is my

00:25:07.580 best response. They said, well, could you imagine if someone did that to Trump? I said, oh, really?

00:25:12.780 You mean the media lie about Trump? You mean the media might lie about Donald Trump? Oh, no. Oh,

00:25:17.140 no. But this is what I'm saying is that conservatives have to stop being scared of the Washington Post

00:25:23.760 writing you up, the CNN writing you up, Jake Tapper writing you up, Snow Newsweek, Wikipedia,

00:25:30.000 Google. Screw all of them. They're going to do what they're going to do, but they have no power unless you

00:25:35.540 give it to them.

00:25:37.580 All right, we are back here with Libby Emmons, Natalie Winters, the sidelines of CPAC. Very

00:25:47.200 excited. So you just heard that speech. That was me on stage earlier today at CPAC. And what I was

00:25:53.460 talking about on a two front basis was this idea of why it was that we came up with and produced and

00:26:02.360 scripted and released this deep fake of Joe Biden this week. And we decided to make a deep fake of

00:26:07.060 Joe Biden instituting the national draft, the Selective Service Act, which, by the way, Natalie,

00:26:13.040 since you mentioned so graciously earlier in the show that you just turned 22, so did you know

00:26:20.320 that everyone from 20 to 25 is in the first batch for the Selective Service Act? And that's men

00:26:28.060 and women. 0.98

00:26:29.320 Oh, no. Zelensky is going to get his wish.

00:26:31.760 Exactly.

00:26:32.440 He's going to meet me.

00:26:33.140 So we actually, when we did this, I pulled the Selective Service Act language and I even went to

00:26:38.000 the website to see, okay, well, how does it work, right? So there's a lottery and it starts if it

00:26:43.460 starts in calendar year 2023, it starts at 20, then it goes to 21, then it goes to 22, then 23, 24, 25,

00:26:55.120 and it goes on from there until they reach their quotas. And so Natalie Winters, how does it and wait,

00:26:59.760 but what's going to happen though? Because if Steve goes to jail and I have to go fight in

00:27:04.300 Ukraine, who's going to host the war room? Libby, what are you doing? What are you up to?

00:27:08.420 Hey, I'm around.

00:27:09.200 You're around. Libby's around. We got Libby.

00:27:10.320 I'm not even covered by the Selective Service Act.

00:27:12.660 Yeah, I haven't been raided yet. But what I did was to, I made this video as a way, it's obviously

00:27:20.780 political commentary. It's obviously satire. It's the same thing, by the way, that SNL does every

00:27:26.020 single weekend when they find an actor who looks like the president, goes up there and

00:27:31.260 has them say something. And I came on even in the video itself and explained what you

00:27:36.340 just saw. But they got so mad. They lost their minds. You said, well, that wasn't comedy.

00:27:43.680 So what? Right? No, it was commentary to make a point that that is what we are headed to.

00:27:49.080 But I want to actually ask this question from a different angle. Natalie, for Zoomers that

00:27:55.340 are in that age range I just talked about, 20 to 25, what do you think would actually

00:28:00.340 happen to your generation if suddenly Biden got up there and gave this announcement?

00:28:05.440 And by the way, in the video, because we really dialed it up, he actually says, nobody

00:28:11.340 caught this, but he says, in response to Russia's occupation of Kiev and China's blockade

00:28:17.960 of Taiwan. So the idea is that it would be a two-front global conflict, which is Mearsheimer's

00:28:22.620 warning that we are currently headed towards. What do you think would be the effect of your

00:28:27.780 generation, 20 to 25, this calendar year, if they heard that they were being conscripted

00:28:33.400 to go off to fight Russia and China at the same time?

00:28:36.380 Well, I love getting questions about my generation because I never get to talk about my generation.

00:28:41.920 And it's funny that you bring up Professor Mearsheimer, because when I was a student at the

00:28:46.160 University of Chicago, I actually took a class of his. Wow. So he is my old professor, the

00:28:51.840 only person I learned anything from. This explains it. Now, wait a minute. This is the actual origin

00:28:56.380 story of where Natalie Winters, a student of Mearsheimer. I have to dox myself because it

00:29:03.000 was during COVID and I actually didn't attend a single class because it was virtual. I was

00:29:07.380 too busy doing war room. But to answer your question, but highly respect Professor Mearsheimer.

00:29:13.160 That's probably my biggest regret in life that I didn't go to any of his classes.

00:29:17.380 But because of the Chinese Communist Party, by the way.

00:29:20.280 But see, so, yeah, I was doing other good stuff. So I don't I don't feel that bad. But

00:29:24.060 yeah, exactly. It was just the CCP. So they could keep me out of his his class. But, you

00:29:29.220 know, I don't even know. I think my generation is is so detached from reality. And I don't just

00:29:33.980 even mean that in terms of the worldviews that they hold. Right. Whether they're socialists.

00:29:37.900 I just mean, I don't even think that they actually understand the implications, whether

00:29:42.440 it be geopolitics on their own lives. And I think that if, you know, news that they would

00:29:47.180 be drafted into this kind of two front war would come to them via tick tock. I think

00:29:51.520 they're so desensitized to just everything. That's kind of my sense that I get when I talk

00:29:56.380 to people. I feel like you have to go get people. I think like you'd actually have to go to people's

00:30:01.500 houses and get them. I don't think that they would know that they are supposed to show up

00:30:04.760 and do anything. The sad part, too, I think, you know, I didn't graduate high school that

00:30:09.420 long ago. So I sort of know the narratives, right, that they're pushing in these classrooms.

00:30:14.460 And you can see in the polling, right, I think we've hit record lows in terms of the number

00:30:18.320 of Americans who are actually proud to be American. Right. And I would argue that's part of the

00:30:23.240 Chinese Communist Party's, you know, unrestricted and unconventional warfare tactic, by the way,

00:30:27.700 is a huge part of. Yeah. So I think that people would not show up. I think people it's

00:30:33.980 not that they wouldn't want to fight in the war because they don't want to die or, oh,

00:30:37.280 you know, I don't know if it's right. They don't want to defend America. I think that's

00:30:41.500 the fundamental issue. And we say this is they'd be probably seeing this on TikTok, which is,

00:30:45.920 of course, a controlled app. Well, and the thing, too, though, is that with

00:30:48.780 the generation, with Zoomers that I see, it seems like they go to TikTok and they say, 1.00

00:30:54.940 oh, that's crazy. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, that's crazy. I can't believe

00:30:58.000 that happened. I can't believe that. But there's no sense of connection to anything that's

00:31:01.740 going on. Oh, that's crazy. Trump. Oh, that's crazy. We saw this with that horrible shooting

00:31:06.380 in St. Louis. There was no connection to what was going on. And that was live. That was

00:31:10.860 live. It was a person was using the phone as an interface to reality and did not feel

00:31:15.420 that they had any impact on reality. I mean, I'm I'm no Joe Allen. He's our transhumanism

00:31:19.960 guy at the war room. It's very smart. But I think it is an interesting convergence of reality

00:31:26.140 in the metaverse. And it really dissociates you from what's going on. And that's that's

00:31:31.820 the point. It's there's a sense of it's it's unreality. Well, Colombia, the country of Colombia

00:31:36.460 just held a legal trial in the metaverse, which I think is absolutely a devastating turn of events

00:31:42.660 for justice itself. Well, I mean, was that but you look at it, we've kind of been doing the same

00:31:48.440 thing here when during COVID. During COVID, how many trials do we have that were on zoom? I think

00:31:53.800 it's absolutely unacceptable. NPC judges, you know, it's like in the judges are NPCs, which

00:31:58.680 by the way, this is an argument that Libby and I have all the time behind the scenes of what I

00:32:03.560 always say, what's the difference between an AI writing something and an NPC writing something?

00:32:08.520 Yeah, I think everyone has a soul though. One was created by God, I would argue.

00:32:14.120 No, I'm not talking about the person versus the machine. I'm talking about the just the content

00:32:20.120 of the writing itself. If I go to one of those, and we were talking before about those like 20

00:32:24.840 something bloggers at the times or whatever, or one of these, like, somebody went to J school,

00:32:29.800 and you always know what they're going to write, you always know what their narrative is going to be.

00:32:33.320 It's the exact same thing every time that's an NPC. And so you know, all CNN says that I need 10

00:32:39.560 vaccinations and boosters, and I need to turn my kid into a girl and all this because CNN

00:32:44.040 says I saw it on TV, right? We'd literally have people who stayed in their homes for a year

00:32:47.880 because the TV told them to. So that's an NPC. So what's the difference between an NPC writing

00:32:53.000 who can't think for themselves and an AI where you do the thinking for them?

00:32:56.360 Well, that's why the same side supports, I think it's not just indoctrination,

00:32:59.800 but it's the destruction of critical thinking and the ability to think for yourself.

00:33:03.080 And that's why they also support AI. And that's why they got upset about my deepfake.

00:33:07.320 Well, that's the thing about the deepfake too, that's so important,

00:33:10.280 is that people are not thinking critically about it. And Biden said just about a year ago

00:33:15.400 that there would be no troops on the ground in Ukraine. But he also said that we wouldn't be

00:33:19.480 sending tanks, right? And he also said that we wouldn't be doing all of this other stuff.

00:33:23.320 And we're doing all of it. So World War three. Yes, he said that. So how long before he goes back

00:33:29.640 on the promise of there being no troops on the ground, which now we do actually have troops on

00:33:34.360 the ground because they go over there to help the Ukrainian military figure out how to use the

00:33:39.080 weapons and do all of that stuff. And there's also true that the U.S. is facilitating Ukraine's

00:33:46.120 targeting of the American missiles. So we're already heavily involved in this war. How long before they

00:33:52.600 do demand like Zelensky promised? Let me ask you guys, what do you think about this broader

00:33:57.480 question? There was actually one expert on, you know, disinformation or whatever communications

00:34:02.440 who actually basically had my back and said, I think this is a legitimate use of this technology

00:34:07.560 for political commentary. Do you think that it is legitimate to use this type of stuff to,

00:34:14.360 and you know, Natalie's point to get attention. We all have 90 seconds left. We can carry this over

00:34:20.040 to get people's attention, to have this discussion, or is it completely inappropriate to actually,

00:34:25.320 you know, go on offense and put points on the board? I think it's, I think it's acceptable. I think

00:34:29.800 it's an acceptable use of the technology. I think it is important to say that this is,

00:34:34.280 you know, technologically generated and is not actually, you know, a tape of what Biden said.

00:34:39.960 But I do think that it's a perfectly good use of the technology for satire and to expose what's going

00:34:46.360 on. I think the issue when it comes to the regulation of this stuff and when you say,

00:34:50.200 oh, well, you got to slap a label on it, you have to very clearly say it's parody, it's humor,

00:34:54.520 that sort of goes against the whole point of parody and humor and comedy. But I also think

00:34:59.240 it's, it's sort of like the Russia collusion hoax. I think it's offensive to the American people.

00:35:03.240 And it's saying that you're too dumb to actually be able to decide what's real, what's fake. 0.99

00:35:07.720 And I think that is sort of, again, the Freudian slip part on the part of the establishment that 1.00

00:35:11.960 it shows you how idiotic. Well, it's kind of like, it's kind of like the establishment saying, 0.99

00:35:15.960 no, you're not allowed to lie about your political opponents. Only we're allowed to lie about our

00:35:20.920 political opponents. Because I even saw some conservatives and they said to me, oh, well,

00:35:25.320 how would you like it if they did that to you? I'm like, where have you been for the last 10

00:35:29.640 years? How would I like it if the media lied about me and my friends and the people on our

00:35:34.920 political? Have you seen what they do to Steve Bannon? Have you seen what they say about us every,

00:35:39.240 what they're probably saying about us right now as we're filming this at CPAC? It's ridiculous. 0.95

00:35:43.800 So it's, it's like, it's like what Andrew Breitbart said. He's like, they're going to do, 0.90

00:35:46.680 they have two moves. They call you a Nazi, they call you Timothy McVeigh. And, and that's all

00:35:50.680 they do. And they think that's going to stop you. Now it's misinformation spreader.

00:35:53.080 It's kind of like in between, you know, Nina Yankovic is raising money,

00:35:55.880 but we're going to come back. Final segment here, Jack Posobiec, Libby Emmons,

00:35:59.640 Natalie Winters. Stay tuned.

00:36:03.960 All right. Final segment here, CPAC, Natalie Winters, Libby Emmons. Guys, and, and you guys are

00:36:10.280 as much prognosticators. You've gotten so much right over the last couple of years as, as anybody out

00:36:15.720 there. And I would put you up, I would put up your records as journalists against anyone in the

00:36:22.120 mainstream media, anyone on MSNBC, anyone on CNN, anyone, New York times, guardian, any of this,

00:36:30.520 I would, I would say, let's go pound for pound. Let's actually match records. See who's got right.

00:36:35.080 And who didn't? Well, Jack, I have to say, you know, the New York times has crowned

00:36:39.800 War Room, the number one spreader of misinformation. You got to pick up the slack.

00:36:43.800 Wait, where is it? I was so upset. I was, no, I would say though, that it's been my contributions

00:36:50.280 to War Room that really put it over the top. We're drifting off of you. We're riding your

00:36:54.280 coattails. Anytime I come on, it's like, all right, what's the big lie today? But there was,

00:36:59.400 you had, cause you had the, the crown and Libby, you missed it. Natalie had the crown and the

00:37:04.280 mustache. A very nice member of the War Room Posse had it made and got a, got a tiara.

00:37:10.760 That was, that was actually amazing. That's why we love the War Room Posse. 0.64

00:37:13.480 We do love the War Room Posse. But, but, but when I, when I say prognostication,

00:37:18.440 where are we going with all of this? Where is, you know, and, and actually let me ask Libby first,

00:37:23.080 because you, you have a mind for trends in media, as you are in media yourself. Where do you see this

00:37:30.920 type of journalism going? Because, you know, is the website dead? Is the blog dead? Is journalism

00:37:38.120 now a personal thing? What's the next thing that will drop? The next thing that will drop in

00:37:43.320 journalism? I think we're going to see a lot more deep fake stuff going on. I think that's for sure.

00:37:48.680 I, I really like the rise of the citizen journalists who goes out and covers things in their local area.

00:37:55.240 And as we have the decline of local newspapers, I think that's so important, you know, that people

00:38:01.960 record and document what they're doing in their own areas. I think we should see a lot more of that.

00:38:07.480 And I think that the, you know, the burgeoning outlets really need to dig into what's going on

00:38:13.480 and really need to expose the- People come up to me every day and they say,

00:38:17.320 how can I make an impact? And I say, get a press credential in your town.

00:38:21.240 And just go for it. And just go to the town meeting.

00:38:23.240 We'll report on things. Look what Alex Stein turned that in.

00:38:26.280 It turned that whole career into crashing those meetings.

00:38:28.520 But he's running for school board in Texas.

00:38:30.360 I love it. I love it. God bless. God bless the primetime 99.

00:38:33.800 But, but it, you know, and you look at like, Natalie, what you've been able to do

00:38:37.560 with your journalism, it's the stories are out there. So how can people, you know,

00:38:42.520 when they sit back and they come and say, how do I get involved? What do I do?

00:38:45.720 How do I get started? People come up to me here at CPAC and say, here's my card.

00:38:49.320 I have this thing. I have that thing. What would your advice to those people?

00:38:52.520 Because you've done it, obviously.

00:38:53.720 Yeah. You know, three, three years ago, uh, I was still living in LA and I just graduated high

00:38:59.640 school and you know, now look where I am. And it's, I remember the first night that I met you

00:39:06.680 at Trump DC with Tanya was there. And we were with sort of like the MAGA DC.

00:39:11.640 I knew nothing crew and it was, we used to hold these MAGA meetups, you know, every,

00:39:15.880 it was like every Wednesday or something. And we would just sort of, you know, people would

00:39:19.960 come around and meet and someone said, Hey, this is Natalie. She's going to be,

00:39:22.840 she's going to be great. I want you to, you know, you know, keep an eye on

00:39:25.720 her while she's working here in DC. Okay. Uh, and yeah, we'll see whatever. And you know,

00:39:32.600 I, I made sure never to shut that door though.

00:39:34.760 But you know, what's so interesting? Cause you know, when we meet the war room posse,

00:39:39.480 they're always so nice. And they say, Natalie, you know, you're so good at your job. You're so

00:39:42.920 good at reporting. And I always say, I'm actually not. And what I, what I mean by that is that

00:39:49.640 I'm just lucky because I am so young. I don't have any conflicts of interest, right? I haven't

00:39:53.960 gone through journalism school. I haven't worked on the hill. I haven't been a foreign lobbyist,

00:39:59.560 right? I don't have any of those conflicts of interest. So I can just report.

00:40:04.040 Alexander Vindman hasn't hired you for his defense contracting for me.

00:40:07.320 Hey, I'm very happy at war room, but you never know. No. But I think that's the point. And,

00:40:12.280 you know, take the issue of, and my point is get involved. And if election fraud is so rampant

00:40:17.480 and so widespread, which we know it is, right? We all live in the United States. Most of us probably

00:40:22.200 do. So there's election fraud going on in your community. So go out and find it, right? That's

00:40:26.680 what we saw happen in the midterms. And of course, you know, you're doing something right.

00:40:30.760 When the mainstream media loses their collective, I don't want to say mind,

00:40:33.880 because they don't have one, but they're, they're NPC chat, GPT bot AI mind.

00:40:37.800 Yeah, the brain goes down. But I think that's, find, find some aspects, something that's going on,

00:40:43.560 you know, watch war room, watch shows like yours to understand the bigger meta narratives

00:40:48.280 about what's happening, right? The weaponization of government, election fraud, the origins of COVID.

00:40:53.240 And that's happening. It trickles down. It permeates into your community too,

00:40:57.560 on a local level, which I would almost argue is more important because it's these stories together

00:41:02.600 that form the broader narratives, but become a whistleblower, find the fraud, you know,

00:41:07.000 get involved. It doesn't, it's not just writing a check.

00:41:09.400 It also can be like really simple, which is in so many facets of our lives, we are told by mainstream,

00:41:17.160 mainstream media. We're told by even friends and family to just lie about things, right? We were

00:41:22.920 told to lie about a vaccine efficacy. We were told to lie about masks. We're told to lie and tell people

00:41:29.560 that they can actually become the opposite sex. We're told to lie to kids about, you know, their gender

00:41:36.280 and sexuality as well. And just refuse to lie, you know, stay, speak the truth, tell others to speak

00:41:42.200 the truth, refuse to lie, refuse to believe lies and stand on those words.

00:41:46.520 Imagine being a normie and having to walk around with the amount of just lies that you have to live

00:41:55.080 by every day.

00:41:56.440 It's like so much confusion.

00:41:58.280 It's actually happened to me a few times where I've met people, you know, just out in the world

00:42:03.400 who recognize me and they'll come up and it's like a breath of fresh air because they know they

00:42:08.120 can just talk.

00:42:09.320 They just, they don't have to make that.

00:42:11.080 I'm not going to, you know, attack them for using the wrong pronoun or if you said the R word or if you

00:42:18.120 did this or that, I don't care, right? Because they know that I've been through that pain box situation

00:42:23.640 and I don't care about that world. It's that, by the way, this is what it was like living in the

00:42:28.840 Soviet Union. And you guys know my wife, she tells us stories about it, that there are certain

00:42:33.400 conversations where like you would have to go outside of the house and make sure nobody's around

00:42:39.160 and whisper just to be able to talk. So that's what freedom of speech actually means in a broader

00:42:47.000 sense is that it's the ability, and they talk about this in Orwell, that it's not so much that the

00:42:52.840 party can compel your speech. It is that they will actually control your language,

00:42:59.000 they will control your thoughts, and that you have like this little sensor living inside your mind

00:43:04.040 that you can't talk about. Or if you were to use, I don't know, like emojis on Twitter

00:43:09.560 to describe somebody and then you get kicked out of a sorority. 0.99

00:43:12.280 A clown emoji talking about clownish transgender people. It's calling reality for what it is. And I 0.99

00:43:19.320 think that's why people dovetails with what we were talking about before, right? When they see

00:43:23.480 people like you, people like Steve, it's like an affirmation that they're not crazy and people

00:43:29.080 don't want to feel crazy. It's okay to be normal. And frankly, what even is normal nowadays? You know,

00:43:35.080 they keep changing the definitions, they change the definitions on pandemic, vaccine efficacy,

00:43:40.520 gender, really any word. There's a there's a 4chan phrase that I'm just gonna have to throw out

00:43:46.520 because it's very typical 4chan phrases. Don't worry, I won't get us too canceled. But it's,

00:43:52.040 it's just very powerful. It's very short, it's very punchy. And it just says, you will never be a real

00:43:56.920 woman. Well, you will never fight. And they have like hats. And, and it's like they've even made

00:44:03.720 a deep fake of Biden saying this. And it's, it's these sort of phrases where you hear it.

00:44:09.160 And everybody knows it's true. Everybody knows it's true. And you're not

00:44:12.600 supposed to say anything about it disagree with it. Can I say something controversial? Dylan Mulvaney

00:44:18.280 is ugly. Get out. Get out. She looks weird. She looks weird. He, they, whatever. It's offensive 0.99

00:44:27.080 as a woman. Wait, how? I don't find Dylan Mulvaney offensive, like from a female perspective. But I,

00:44:33.960 in terms of like, you're not a woman, which obviously he's not a woman. But what I find

00:44:38.120 so offensive about Mulvaney is the 100 days of girlhood, where he said that he's like emerging

00:44:43.160 as a girl. Yes. And like, if you're not born a girl, if you don't grow up a girl, you're just not

00:44:47.800 a girl and you're never going to be a woman. And it doesn't make, uh, it doesn't make any sense

00:44:51.960 to lie to people about who they are and what their status is. Also, you don't get to control

00:44:56.600 how other people view you. I'm really sick of this whole thing where you're supposed to like

00:45:01.000 address people by how they would like to be addressed personally based on their own delusions

00:45:06.360 and manifestations. I'm done with that. There's a bigger, there's a bigger point. And you made this

00:45:10.520 recently when you made some pretty controversial comments on Tim cast with James Younger.

00:45:17.080 Oh, I didn't think that was even controversial. Regarding surrogacy. Right. Where, uh,

00:45:21.640 if I remember correctly, you called surrogacy an abomination. It isn't about commercial

00:45:26.280 surrogacy. Commercial surrogacy. Is an entire abomination. But doesn't this dovetail with that

00:45:31.000 in a sense? Because aren't you commodifying womanhood? You're commodifying womanhood. You're 1.00

00:45:37.080 commodifying reproductive materials. Right. But I'm saying both. Yes. Right. With Dylan Mulvaney and with

00:45:43.000 this. Yes. You're, you're just commodifying being a woman into, which by the way, totally 0.91

00:45:48.680 goes against the whole we're ruled by the patriarchy argument because if to be a woman or to use, uh, 1.00

00:45:54.520 feminine, um, surrogacy options, then obviously women have more power or more empowered because 1.00

00:46:02.200 if it's the whole narrative in 2016, that like the handmaiden press, right. If you don't want to be

00:46:07.880 a woman, it sucks. You're going to get like, you know, raped on the college campus just if you step 1.00

00:46:12.840 outside, like UVA. Yeah. Yeah. The UVA rape case, they had to come up with a fake account. Yeah. And 0.99

00:46:19.560 this was like way after Camille Paglia, who I think is very pioneering and intelligent woman,

00:46:24.760 uh, fought to get rid of curfews for women on her college campus. And when she was talking to Jordan 0.96

00:46:31.160 Peterson, this was some years ago, she said that they were looking for the freedom to take that risk,

00:46:35.720 to take the risk. Maybe they would get raped, but they wanted the freedom to take their own risks.

00:46:40.440 And now women are saying that they don't want the freedom to take the risks. They want to punish 1.00

00:46:45.080 everybody when things get screwed up and they're saying that men are women. It's absolutely a 1.00

00:46:49.960 cognitive dissonance situation. And not only are the, are the curfews coming back, but this

00:46:54.280 segregation, segregation is coming back, but it's good segregation. These are good curfews. 0.99

00:46:59.880 And there are some men that are allowed into the women's spaces so long as they put their hair in 0.96

00:47:04.920 pigtails and just act cute and say they're lesbians. We're coming up on our final minute. 1.00

00:47:10.040 Where can people go to follow you guys? Incredible work as always. Thank you so much for your time today.

00:47:14.840 Let people know how to follow you. I am Natalie G. Winters on basically all the social media

00:47:19.720 platforms. And of course, always tune into War Room to watch me co-host and executive edit.

00:47:25.240 What does the G stand for? It's my middle name, Grace.

00:47:28.520 I like that. Oh, that's fairly nice. Natalie Grace Winters. I can't take any credit for it,

00:47:32.920 but I think it's a good name. That's so good. Thank you, Mom and Dad.

00:47:35.560 You can find me at Libby Emmons on Twitter, and you can come check out all the great work we're

00:47:39.800 doing every day at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com. All right,

00:47:44.520 folks. So remember, just a great roundtable here. If you were here at CPAC, it's been a fantastic

00:47:49.480 event. We've had amazing speakers, great connections. Make sure you stay tuned. Human

00:47:53.800 Events Daily. We're going to be doing these every single Sunday, day in, day out. Follow these women. 1.00

00:47:59.080 This is the future of journalism that you're seeing right before you. Ladies and gentlemen,

00:48:03.560 as always, you have my permission to lay it short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 05, 2023

SUNDAY SPECIAL： LIVE FROM CPAC WITH POSO, LIBBY EMMONS, AND NATALIE WINTERS

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