Masako Ganaha is an expert in the influence of the Communist Party of China (CPC) in the United States and around the world, especially in the Asia pacific region, and specifically in the nation of Japan. She joins us to discuss the recent events that took place in Davos, China on Jan. 6th and 7th of 2019, as well as to the role of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in China.
00:00:00.000well ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard for a very special sunday here with human events we
00:00:16.760just completed our china files series and we wanted to keep the discussions going because
00:00:23.440there's so much more that's happening right now in the world with the ccp as well as in different
00:00:29.720regions of the world in the ccp and i wanted to take this time because we have the sunday special
00:00:36.000to bring on someone who is an expert in ccp influence and ccp information operations not
00:00:44.140only in the united states and around the world but specifically in the asia pacific region and in
00:00:50.860the nation of japan and so that's why i wanted to bring in all the way she joins us from okinawa
00:00:56.560today it is masako ganaha masako thank you so much for joining us today i thank you very much
00:01:03.180for having me on i appreciate it now masako for those who don't follow her she's on youtube she's
00:01:09.700on rumble they're always trying to ban her on youtube but she is an incredible information
00:01:14.280and international journalist we actually met in washington dc i think just a few days after
00:01:20.240january 6th and we were going through all of the footage from january 6th we were looking at
00:01:25.060everything that was going on in there but obviously your focus isn't necessarily u.s it's more focused
00:01:30.060on japan but specifically the influence of ccp the world economic forum davos globalism because
00:01:37.040personally i feel that in the west we see the ccp and the world economic forum working together do you
00:01:46.040see the same thing in japan yes yes uh recently i've been digging into wef uh i started to call not
00:01:54.940wef but wef that's easier that's how they call it in europe and wef they have a summer davos in
00:02:01.780in china every year and yes so they have strong connection and as you know they uh posts they
00:02:10.740created a website for people to follow this year's davos and they excluded twitter but because of the
00:02:18.920um true media talking about this they added twitter so it's really funny how they react to um many
00:02:30.280internet uh news so world economic forum they're holding this wef and that is how they say it in europe
00:02:37.060actually when i visited there and attended before i was detained i think i remember you saw uh this
00:02:43.140last summer in when they because they moved it because of covid to may of 2022 so i was detained
00:02:50.180by the world economic forum police and of course reuters got very very upset and they said no it's not
00:02:56.100the world economic forum police it's just the police who've been assigned to the world economic forum it's
00:03:01.360completely and utterly different um and so of course they were fact-checking me on all of this and trying
00:03:06.120to delete my posts and videos but i noticed that when they were there they kept saying wef wef wef so
00:03:11.960we don't usually say that in the u.s but that's right internationally they would they would call it wef so
00:03:16.440when they are holding wef in this summer session that's being held in china uh who attends is it the
00:03:23.980same group of people as a klaus schwab but to people from the ccp also attend and for people that need
00:03:30.320to understand uh at the world economic forum conference in davos the number one delegation is
00:03:36.400the united states the number two delegation in there in switzerland is from the chinese communist
00:03:42.240party so when it's being held in china do you see the same international footprint as well as from ccp
00:03:48.800uh yes and actually uh as klaus schwab state during one of his interview he says he admired the system in
00:03:59.360china so what they're doing is completely the same and uh myself being japanese i'm always looking at how
00:04:09.920how they influence japan and uh i am seeing this as like japan is not even a player our government
00:04:20.800officials are just puppet uh it's really sad to say this but that's what i've been finding out
00:04:27.920so in what ways do you find that japan has become a puppet of the ccp obviously most americans of course
00:04:37.440were praying for japan because of the horrific incident with shinzo abe former prime minister
00:04:43.840earlier or just later last year that took place and of course shinzo abe was known for being extremely
00:04:52.560supportive of japanese nationalism supportive of a strong defense was known as a conservative and people
00:04:58.960were very very concerned that this horrific incident may have had some connection to the ccp
00:05:07.440yes uh his assassination uh it's there are so many mysteries and the police in japan and of
00:05:15.280government japanese government wants to uh end this argument that this one suspect just did it on his
00:05:24.560own but there are many other thing journalists trying to figure out what really happened still now
00:05:31.040because there are so many things that doesn't make sense and uh to your question how how is it
00:05:40.080how can i say that japanese government is just a puppet actually in japan uh let me tell you the
00:05:46.480atmosphere in japan first of all if you are to talk about world economic forum or or if you mention
00:05:53.920the name klaus schwab then you are considered to be crazy people person
00:06:01.040so this um in japan there are so many um propaganda going on trying to stop um this world economic forum
00:06:16.640criticize critics so uh our government they go to davos and they address speeches and they also
00:06:26.880implement the policy based on what they decide what have been decided in davos but then they do not
00:06:35.840give us explanation how they got idea from davos or what their connection to them so as a job as japanese as
00:06:46.880a japanese i am trying to explain and wake up japanese people that our official what they're telling us
00:06:55.360is not from us is not from their mouth but the people above our officials that's why i say that
00:07:04.880our government is not even a player they're just puppet they are successfully um hiding this channel like how
00:07:18.240they implement the policy so it's really severe situation in japan and so because of this atmosphere
00:07:30.240you're seeing this from now japan is not like the united states where there's no first amendment there's no
00:07:36.000uh constitutional protection the same way we have in u.s but are you seeing that from the government side as well as the government willing
00:07:43.520to come in and censor this information about weff and about ccp well in japan the tendency is that uh more of
00:07:54.560quote-unquote mainstream media is trying to hide from us and because not so many people japanese people speak
00:08:03.440or read in english people cannot get to the actual information so people who woke up and then
00:08:14.720have ability to read and speak in english can get right information that language barrier is one of the
00:08:23.600uh huge uh huge uh issue also and also the fact checker quote-unquote fact checker oh yes we have the
00:08:32.160quote-unquote fact checker here in the u.s as well yes and also you youtube too we have huge censorship so if
00:08:41.440actually if you were to talk about topics like world economic forum or ccp then they will take down
00:08:49.120your video and actually i have a youtube channel and i got two strikes and two strikes already for what
00:09:00.800one is uh the video i talked about ccp and one year later i published the video on ccp threats to japan
00:09:14.720they just one day they just gave me email saying that this video violates our policy so they took down
00:09:23.120my content so that was my uh first strike so you're saying this took place uh almost two years after the
00:09:34.960original video itself was posted that you received a strike from youtube in japan yes one year and not only
00:09:43.600myself but many other journalists who focuses on ccp their videos were taken down or uh their
00:09:54.080channel was banned that's been going on yeah yes i was just going to say that it sounds like a very
00:10:02.560similar situation that we're facing here in the united states and that's why we use platforms like rumble
00:10:08.320we use accounts like of course we still have twitter but we also have getter and then we have places
00:10:13.920like rumble where we can go and put all the videos up and not face this kind of censorship that's going
00:10:20.320on rumble i think just revamped their website have you set up a rumble yet uh actually yes i do have
00:10:26.320rumble and i upload all of my videos but uh i'm trying to uh spread those information that there are
00:10:33.840alternative social media but because japanese people cannot uh read in english they the platform
00:10:41.520itself is not available in japanese that's one of the issue that many japanese people cannot okay but
00:10:50.240we'll we'll we'll talk to them we'll see if we can fix that i'm sure we can fix that
00:10:54.160yes and good news is uh recently getter started their japanese branch so it's gonna be available in
00:11:01.760japanese also so i hope that it will spread in japan well that's tremendous because i know twitter
00:11:09.040and we're coming up on our first break here but is it true that twitter is still one of the most
00:11:12.960popular social medias in japan yes actually eon musk stated that uh twitter is more famous
00:11:22.240in japan than any other country i think that's right actually if you look at month on month i've seen
00:11:28.160those numbers that if you look month on month the terms of daily active users monthly active users
00:11:34.080in japan is actually larger than any other country so that's why it's key if you want to understand
00:11:39.120how twitter works if you want to understand twitter's business you need japan to be in there now of course
00:11:44.400twitter is banned in china but if the ccp right think about it in terms of influence if they want to
00:11:50.160influence the united states if they want to influence japan their neighbor of course ccp or china and japan have
00:11:56.160had many many wars over the years to include world war ii to include many other conflicts
00:12:02.000that is something that they need to focus on which is twitter stay tuned we're coming right back
00:12:06.720with international journalist masako kanaha okay this is jack sobek here human events we are back
00:12:14.000with masako kanaha the international journalist out of okinawa she joins us today from okinawa and we were
00:12:20.320just talking about how youtube is taking down your information your journalism about the ccp and
00:12:27.440particularly their threat to japan so let's go through that we know of course that ccp is a military threat
00:12:34.400to japan everyone knows this uh certainly also a military threat to um to taiwan and a military threat
00:12:41.840you have the the islands as well that are disputed between china and japan but what about
00:12:47.280the information warfare what about the influence threat tell me walk us through what is the influence
00:12:55.520threat of the ccp in japan okay thank you very much for bringing this topic on uh because i live in
00:13:04.160okinawa it's a little island located in southern part of japan this island is particularly targeted for
00:13:15.040decades by ccp that's why i started my uh journalism and we have local new two newspapers heavily infiltrated
00:13:26.720from ccp so all the all the news information we get from those local newspapers are filled with propaganda
00:13:38.080and especially those uh newspapers target on u.s basis and before i go deep into this let me give you the
00:13:48.400broad picture so ccp information operation heavily deployed on okinawa southern part of japan and
00:13:57.520hokkaido hokkaido is located in northern part of japan those two places are the key place for them to
00:14:07.840infiltrate and especially okinawa because we have u.s bases they want to get rid of it because that's
00:14:16.240easier for them to invade right and so there has been huge propaganda going on saying that people
00:14:27.120live in okinawa we say okinawans okinawan people are discriminated against by u.s and japan
00:14:36.480that's how they try to divide and conquer us so many local okinawan people are brainwashed thinking that
00:14:48.320they are the victim of those policies and they sometimes bring up um heartbreaking crime
00:14:59.280that kind of things happen for example uh rape or drink and drive uh drink and driving
00:15:08.160by american soldiers those things happen but it's not because they are americans there are many bad people
00:15:18.560whether they are americans or japanese but those things they will bring this uh accident or the crime
00:15:27.120big enough that they brainwash us to think that we have to get rid of u.s bases entirely
00:15:36.400that's how this information operation is going on and there are many activists
00:15:43.280came from all over japan and they do protest in front of u.s bases
00:15:49.440but those are the ones who came outside of okinawa claiming that pretending to be they are locals
00:16:00.160some activists moved to okinawa in order to continue this activism they are not locals they just moved
00:16:08.640a couple years ago but they say oh i'm from okinawa and i i oppose u.s bases that's how their
00:16:15.920operation is going on and this is the broad picture and myself i was born and raised in okinawa
00:16:29.360i know the real local people's voice especially those who live around bases they love american people
00:16:39.520they have good friendship and they understand why we have u.s bases as well of course um japanese
00:16:47.600self-defense force too because we are under the threat of ccp military invasion
00:16:54.880and so there is this gap between real voice of local people and the quote unquote local people that
00:17:05.200appears on newspaper that's why i say we can only trust the date on newspaper everything else we have
00:17:14.640to turn it upside down and read it that's how we can get
00:17:18.240so these activists and actually let me let me take a second so to make people understand this because
00:17:26.560just a few months ago there was an incident uh between a u.s sailor and his family and a very
00:17:33.920unfortunate car accident that took place um driving from mount fuji and which is not nokinawa but um
00:17:41.280it's about two hours from ukuska and he cracked he was involved in a car crash his car did hit
00:17:49.760pedestrians i believe two people were killed um i know one woman was killed some people were injured
00:17:58.240that's what happened one person killed people injured he testified later that it was due to altitude
00:18:03.920sickness and he had fainted so he wasn't drunk he wasn't driving recklessly he was given three years in
00:18:09.840jail for this um they call it negligent manslaughter and many people um in the u.s including president
00:18:17.200biden as well as other lawmakers have petitioned this is a u.s navy officer this just happened a
00:18:22.160couple of months ago to have him released this punishment um particularly harsh for him even
00:18:28.880compared to other instances of this happening before and of course it's horrible and and we're so
00:18:34.080horrified this happened and we wish it never had happened but i think it speaks to what you're
00:18:38.480talking about how some of them are treated differently than if this happened to um regular
00:18:45.840japanese citizen where this took in place now these activists so for folks listening this is something
00:18:52.080that comes up all the time even obviously right now there's there is a u.s navy officer currently in
00:18:57.680jail in japan because of one of these issues and the activists use this to push a wedge between
00:19:04.640u.s and japan to say we don't want you here we don't want your bases here we don't want your
00:19:09.200aircraft carriers ukuska is the largest u.s navy base outside of the united states it is the main
00:19:16.240base for the united states seventh fleet it's the flight at the base where i visited many times when i
00:19:20.720was in an officer in the u.s seventh fleet um it's a great city a lot of fun just south of tokyo
00:19:27.200and it is a huge issue but masako what i wanted to get into want to ask you is these activists you're
00:19:33.120talking about do they have a connection have you uncovered a connection between them and the ccp
00:19:39.120because certainly the goal of the ccp would be to drive a separation between the u.s and japan
00:19:47.120yes uh so what i see the connection is in terms of um what so-called dukiu okinawa independence
00:19:58.160movement those people who oppose american bases also states that okinawa is not part of japan
00:20:08.880they bring this to identity issue and then saying that okinawa should be independent country
00:20:17.760so that they can get rid of u.s spaces not only u.s spaces but japanese self-defense force too
00:20:26.320that's how they use this logic to demilitarize japan and this okinawa independence movement
00:20:37.520is actually promoted by ccp if you go look into like chinese newspaper
00:20:46.880they say they state that okinawa should be independent country that's how they um do information
00:20:56.560operation to divide and conquer so we we can see the connection and they also ccp also invite japanese
00:21:06.640scholar to china and then they have symposium talking about how okinawa can be independent
00:21:15.360so it's clear that they are trying to buy rewriting the history they are trying to destabilize okinawa
00:21:29.840so we can see that's how we can see the connection and also interestingly it's not interestingly but
00:21:38.480um in north korea there is huge influence by north korea to okinawan uh those uh activists
00:21:49.520activists and sometimes activists in korea connected to north korea they come to japan especially okinawa
00:22:02.160and they do protest with those japanese activists and they held banner of the photos of kim jong-un and then
00:22:14.640the president of korea and holding hands together and they're saying korea is going to be united
00:22:23.680so we don't have to be united so we don't have to worry about the threat of north korea so we don't need
00:22:29.600those bases that's how they did that's how they promoted their propaganda and they do dancing and then
00:22:38.080uh that the and then those local newspaper they took photos and they just uh take those propaganda
00:22:47.680and then spread to okinawan people so this um anti-us base activity activism has huge uh what should i say