SUNDAY SPECIAL： THE TRUTH ABOUT JAMES O'KEEFE
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James O'Keefe is the new head of the Okeefe Media Group, a subscription-based news organization that provides a subscription based platform for citizen journalism. He is also the co-founder of The Okeefilled Group, an organization that gives back to the community in the form of a monthly subscription based on the purchase of a camera.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's Sunday special of Human Events Daily.
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Today is March 19th, Sunday, 2023, Anno Domini.
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This is our full interview, our full exclusive sit-down.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to the truth about James O'Keefe.
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All right, we are excited here to bring on James O'Keefe, the new head of the OMG, the O'Keefe Media Group.
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James O'Keefe, welcome back to Human Events Daily.
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I got to ask, man, how did you come up with the name, the OMG?
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I mean, I get O'Keefe Media Group, but surely somebody said to you, like, James, are you sure you want the OMG?
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I was sitting in my new war room here, which, you know, I have about 10 people that I've identified to keep doing what I'm doing, and we were just spitting out names and different ideas.
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And I think putting my name in it was something that most people wanted to do because I've already had one company stolen from me, so I think it's a little more difficult when your name is in it.
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And it was just like O'Keefe Media, O'Keefe Media Group, and then there was that OMG, so it was like TMZ, OMG, oh, my gosh, you know, because kind of like the videos that we do, it's like, oh, my gosh, that's outrageous, right?
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It creates righteous indignation, shocks the people, wakes them up.
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So we have a little logo there, and it's a subscription-based platform where, Jack, you can actually go on there, and for $1,000, you can actually sponsor a camera, one of our special cameras that we will put into the hands of the willing, because there have been probably 5,000 people that have emailed me over the last month that want to basically do what I do.
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So now I'm going to basically create Uber for citizen journalism and get the cameras out where they need to go.
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Well, that's actually incredible, and so what you're also doing that, and I actually didn't realize that when you did the first rollout, so that people can go in, and if you're someone who, okay, maybe you don't have, in the intel community, we would have said placement and access, right?
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So placement and access obviously is the bread and butter of what you guys do on your journalism.
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So you may not have placement and access, but you might want to fund that type of journalism.
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And by the way, now, are there different tiers to this?
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Is this something where people could maybe do like, you know, a $10 a month, $20 a month, whatever it is, et cetera?
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Yeah, there's going to be, right now, we're about to break some stories, like I always do, but if you go to this website, o'keefemediagroup.com, there's tiers.
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You got $500, you get a certificate for a grand, you can buy a camera for five grand, you can get a video from me.
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And then for 20 bucks a month, you can just subscribe.
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And eventually, this website is going to have basically seminars on how to do this sort of journalism.
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And my vision is eventually to arm thousands of people with these little cameras and teach them about ethics and how to use the cameras and so forth.
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So we haven't built the website out fully, but people wanted me back in action.
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I'll be breaking stories in the next week or so.
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And people wanted to know how they could support.
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It's just a subscription-based news organization where the people that want to send their $20 can now do so.
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We will eventually build out the website as we create this content and these what I call masterclasses in how to do citizen journalism.
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Well, I think that's really great because I get people all the time.
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They come up at Turning Point events, CPAC, whatever we're at, and they say, hey, I love what you do.
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The first thing that I always tell people is just get out there and do it, right?
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Don't think that you need – there are literally – we did a segment the other day talking about this, that if you get a press pass and you just go to your local city council
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and you find out the contracts that are going through, there are stories everywhere.
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Do you get people coming up and asking you that kind of stuff?
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The number one thing people always say is what can I do?
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But I also think people like to whine and they just – people – I mean I'll say it because it's – it's critical of the audience, but people just like to whine.
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They like to complain, and a lot of people are complainers and whiners.
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So this is my opportunity to put it back on them and say, oh, you want to do something?
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Well, how about you take one of these little cameras and we're going to give it to you, and if you live in – wherever you live, you're going to go to your city council meeting, your school board,
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and you're going to start recording, and we'll help you do it, we'll guide you, we'll train you, we'll coach you, thousands of people.
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And I said, well, you said you wanted to do this, so now put your money where your mouth is.
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Actually, just me tweeting out, buy the little cheap Amazon version of the camera, like dozens of people bought it and they're willing.
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And I think this experience that I've been through over the last month, breaking that Pfizer story and then being thrown out of the organization I founded,
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Everyone always asks, how can I help and support?
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A lot of people, I think, just want to complain.
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But I think there's a small minority of people who are fearless and willing,
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and that is what this company, OMG O'Keefe Media Group, is designed to do.
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It's we're going to train and mobilize an army of citizen journalists because power hates sunlight.
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And the only way to hold our leaders accountable, like you have an intelligence background,
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is to find the people with the access, people that are in proximity to those people who have the – I call it testicular fortitude,
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to get close, to record, to jump on the proverbial grenade, not literal grenade overseas,
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but the proverbial grenade in Washington or wherever, and to record it and to show people the truth,
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That's the mission of this organization, and I would ask your audience to go to the website and subscribe.
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What do you say to people who they would say – I'm sure one of the responses you'll get back,
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and we always heard this as well because, look, even when I was in the intel community,
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and I wasn't married yet, I didn't have kids yet, but they – you know,
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you saw people that had been invested in for so long, and they would see the corruption.
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I remember Benghazi, and I remember sitting there behind my desk going,
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I can – I know the president of the United States is lying.
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I know that he's lying up there on TV on the – I can see the footage.
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We can – but he's just – he's telling people the – you know, this falsehood.
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But at the same time, you've got people saying, well, hold on a second.
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What do you say to somebody like that who knows, you know, whether they're at Pfizer
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or one of the banks, as we've seen this week, right, the complete insanity,
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the mismanagement of these banks, someone who knows something that's going on,
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but they're too worried about the repercussions of what will happen before they came out.
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You also had, of course, at CPAC that incredible moment where the whistleblower from Pfizer came
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forward with you on stage knowing, by the way, she's probably not going to be welcome back
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I wrote a whole book about this, but let me summarize.
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You know, there's this, there's this old saying where if you go in one direction, you lose
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If you go in the other direction, you betray your conscience.
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But there is definitely a degree of suffering that goes along with, with truth telling.
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Um, but you, but you maintain your own soul, right?
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You, you're, you're, you're loyal to, to some greater thing.
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I don't hate to break the news to you, but life is short.
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And I think more and more people right now want meaning in their life.
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They want to actually make a difference more so now than ever before.
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Most people are quite envious of my little ragtag group of people here at, at, at, uh,
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Um, because they're like, I want to do what you're doing.
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I mean, maybe 1% of the people that email me are actually willing to do it, but that's
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a lot of people I've gotten like 10,000, you know, emails here in the last couple of weeks.
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So that, that's a, that's a, you know, that's, that's a hundred people wanting to wear cameras.
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And to answer your question, they may be able to stop one person like me or Debbie, right?
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I mean, there's been a few journalists here and there.
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Um, some of my colleagues, some of my former colleagues doing great work, but imagine thousands
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Like thousands of whistleblowers coming out at the same time.
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And yes, it's hard, but there's also a lot of grace that comes along with that so-called
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Some, sometimes the public's right to know is so great that it's worth the sacrifice inflicted
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I will create seminars on ethics and, and legal primers and technology to support you.
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And, and, and I, and I, I told Debbie, I was like, well, listen, Pfizer is going to have
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And if they go through me, they got an army of people by my side.
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And Debbie was inspired to, to come out, um, as a result of what happens to me.
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Uh, she was afraid, but after I was thrown out of the organization, I found it a week
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after the Pfizer story, she became inspired to go public.
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And I think there's going to be a lot more people to do the same.
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Look, James, I mean, and, and if you're willing to share anything with us on that, people,
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It's like, it's like a rollercoaster and everyone's head is spinning with whiplash over this.
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The last time I checked, it was at like 30 million.
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And it's probably up to 50 million views at this point.
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One of, if not the biggest project Veritas video that I've ever seen has come out.
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One of the biggest stories, just an absolute apex moment.
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And then suddenly, you know, the brakes are put on hold.
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Well, I don't know if you guys saw my, um, my, uh, uh, remarks departing.
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I mean, I, uh, I mean, that, that's basically what, what I have to say about the matter.
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Um, and it was, I, I said it to my staff, 60 people, 65 people, and it was, um, and then
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I recognize that when I, you know, distribute a Vimeo link to 70 people, someone's going to
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Um, you know, and that's what I have to say about the matter.
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I'm, I never really paid attention to board governance.
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Um, and I was taking responsibility for everything.
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And so far as I was taking responsibility for everything, I did my yearly audits.
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If you watch my ad for OMG, I actually get out of a black car and I, I throw a sandwich.
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Um, and I, and I've been the same man for 13 years.
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Um, but I think in a media organization, in a media company, most media news organizations
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are corrupted at the top in traditional newsrooms.
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Investigative journalism is a thing of the past because most organizations are
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pursuing a profit or they don't understand how to run a balance sheet as it, when it pertains
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So having ethics and integrity is, is going to be critical.
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Um, and sometimes it's not always profitable if you're trying to squeeze profit.
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I, I, I spent 14 years of my life, uh, building a credible news organization.
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And, uh, and suddenly there was an emergency to oust me, uh, all of a sudden, which doesn't
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make sense to me, it doesn't make sense to any of you, but I would, I would say to you
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Um, I'm going to be more effective as a result of it.
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I've certainly seen a lot of evil and darkness, but I've also really seen a lot of good.
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I've been able to identify a few people that are absolutely, I mean, amazing human beings,
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uh, that I've gone through this with me and have been by my side and, and really, you know,
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this is a movement that requires really strong people in their souls, absolutely unyielding,
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won't bend at the knee, won't be pressured, uh, people that will do it for free.
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Um, which, which, which some of us have been doing here, Jack, for the last couple of weeks,
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um, you know, sleeping on the floor and eating pizza and doing what we have to do.
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That's what we're doing over here because we believe in it.
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And, and I think I'll be more effective as a result of this.
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And I've learned a lot of things that will help me as I venture to the next level, which
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is to equip thousands of people with the cameras, as opposed to just a couple dozen.
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And I appreciate you sharing with that with us and being as candid as you've been.
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I mean, can you walk us through just what does the process there, what's the process
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of that, of determining who those individuals are to start with your, your, I mean, it's
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Basically you are a startup right now, um, that you are, you've gone through 13, 14 years
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You, you, you've gone back to the start in a sense, but it's a new start.
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This is a subscription based news news organization, and you will see stories in the coming days.
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You might even see a story like tomorrow or Monday.
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I mean, as I speak to you, these things are flying across the transom, even more from
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I mean, we have people inside Pfizer that only trust us.
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They don't trust anybody else because they know that I'm not for sale.
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They know that even though this is a subscription based news outs, news organization, no one
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No one will tell me what not to do and tell me what do do.
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There's no board of directors that own this right now.
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Um, but I think to answer your question, if you go to this website about that, by the
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way, because, because I haven't heard you say anything about that you're, I've never
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seen to my knowledge, project Gartas, even in the past, I've never seen you take ads.
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I've never seen you, uh, work with, with any of those types of, um, you know, programmatic
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And you're saying right now that you're not going into this with huge financial backing or
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No, I mean, I, we, I maxed out my credit card in the last, uh, week to, to, uh, and
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my colleague, um, one of my brave colleagues who is volunteering put on his credit card,
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Because we believe in it because my people are, we're working for free for the last two
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And that's fine because the people that are willing to do this are willing to do it for
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When I, I tweeted out, Hey, go buy these Amazon cameras.
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And literally like a few dozen people bought them and say, I'm ready to go.
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So, but the next level today, we're getting a few thousand subscriptions right now.
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So I can make payroll and hire my people officially.
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And for a thousand bucks, you can actually buy a camera for one of our sources.
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And as I, my understanding is in the last two hours, I think a few, uh, how many people
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Maybe a couple dozen have already put in those thousand dollar subscriptions so that we can
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So what I envisioned Jack is that eventually we're going to have seminars on ethics and
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technology, legal primers so that we can, we can mobilize these people at these events
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That's my vision, uh, so that we can create a vast army of citizen journalists.
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Now, one thing, and I appreciate you mentioning that about, about Pfizer, about how there's
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Because when you're dealing with what we would call source management and source handling,
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People talk about sources and we use these phrases like placement and access.
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Yes, we used to, you know, in the Intel community, we'd say human intelligence and source management,
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confidential human at the end of the day, it's just people.
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And if you've got to hand off a source from someone that you have a trusted relationship
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with someone who in many of these cases, you're opening yourself up to, you know, just in the
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journalism side, legal liability, you're opening yourself up to political liability.
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You might be fired, financial liability, all of this.
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You cannot do that without a trust based relationship.
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So James, when you're, when you're looking at take Pfizer, for example, these types of
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relationships, how important is that source management?
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Obviously, you know, seeing somebody like Debbie come out at on stage like that and present
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herself to the entire world is, is the pinnacle of it.
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But people don't understand, I think a lot of the audience may not even understand what
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it takes to get someone from that first, that first email, that first text, that nibble
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all the way up to being on stage next to you, if you know what I mean.
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And it comes down to trust and, and it sounds like a cliche, you know, we hear the words
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Um, it means you do the right thing, you know, to quote the 60 minutes whistleblower,
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Jeffrey Wigand interviewed by Mike Wallace in 1996, one of the most famous whistleblowers
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There's a whole movie about it called the insider with Al Pacino.
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And Jeffrey Wigand says to Mike Wallace, Mike Wallace said, why are you doing this?
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So why again said, because it's the right thing to do.
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Um, uh, and when you have nothing to gain from the transaction, it's an, and, and, and
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in the problem in the for-profit news industry traditionally has been, if you're running it
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like a business, you're going to squeeze every ounce of profit out of it and investigative
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Some of my stories have cost a million dollars to do.
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It takes months of the story we did, uh, you know, on the border of last year, I mean,
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months and months and months and dozens of people.
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And, and most people there's, it's sort of philanthropic work, right?
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So, and then there's the fear factor that is to say you operate without fear or favor
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That means you operate without fear and you operate not partial to a particular policy.
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Well, hell, I mean, 99% of the people in media, all they do is talk about their preference
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So I think in source management, if you operate without fear, if you're philanthropically minded
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and you're not shoving policy down my throat, you're just focused on the cold, hard facts.
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And I think when it came to Debbie and you can, um, you know, she's my first whistleblower,
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uh, in the last couple of weeks, she, she was inspired to, to go on that.
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See, you were with me at CPAC Jack, she was inspired because she saw what happened and
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she, you know, and I don't want to put words in her mouth, but certainly it's very suspicious
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Um, and, um, she decided that, that, you know, she would follow.
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And I think, uh, you can't, uh, you can't really philosophize courage.
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You have to do it yourself and then people will follow.
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So it's kind of some momentum that we have right now with OMG and O'Keefe media group.
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Thousands of people want to follow Debbie's footsteps, kind of a band of brothers to quote,
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I know I texted you that, that quote from, from Shakespeare.
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And that's what, that's what essentially this is.
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And I think people have to realize that, I mean, you've walked towards the fire for the
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entire time that I've known you, the challenges that come up, whether it be the New York times,
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whether it be lawsuits, whether it be literal FBI raids, uh, coming at you, people have to
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understand that when you're doing what James O'Keefe does on a regular basis, you have that
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constant sort of Damocles that's just hanging above your head.
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You don't know when that, when there was a knock at that door at five in the morning or
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five in the evening, whenever it is, you don't know who's on the other side of that.
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And that's always something that's the danger I think of living on the edge.
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And that's why so many journalists today, they, you know, they, they go back into whatever
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safe, they say, I'm just going to do the work of Pfizer.
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I'm going to do the work that a big tech wants that Silicon Valley wants.
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Well, let's take a look at Silicon Valley right now.
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Let's take a look at pharma, all of this, it's all falling apart.
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So, so James, what can people do when they, we see our government and we see our system,
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not just government, but our whole system that seems like it's falling apart at the seams.
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And yet all the people, how many people that go there, thousands of people every day,
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they show up, they go to work, they check in, they clock in, they check out, they work
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Gavin Newsom's bank, who doesn't even tell us, gets a bailout because he's pushing for
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They bailed out his own bank because of course he does.
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So I guess what I, what I, when I come back on the side of it is when we live in a time
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of such corruption, when so many systems are going crazy, not to mention, not even to get
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into the election stuff, because obviously we're getting close to, to 24.
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So we know there's going to be a lot of elections coming up, but when you look at these types
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of things, do you have any specific targets in terms of industries that you look at on
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the horizon or potential leads in, uh, to different areas that you're looking at with OMG, as you
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I mean, if you're every school board, every NGO, every three letter agency, every city
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council, I think, I think this whole process with Pfizer has awakened a sleeping giant.
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I've never seen anything like it in terms of people DMing me and messaging.
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So I think in the coming months, you'll see this army expanding into every state house,
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People are conspiring to keep themselves in power and line and line their pockets with
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tax dollars and there's, and their greed and their self-interest, um, is, is hurting
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And we all know real journalism has been dead for a long time now.
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And when I got started, one of the biggest stories, Jack is, do you remember the acorn
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story or the pimp and hooker two kids from the cast of high school musical three had to
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break that story with their grandmother's chinchilla coat and $1,300 in credit card debt.
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I mean, it's going to require some sacrifices of people.
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I mean, I've, I've, I've been ousted from the organization I founded and I'm taking a
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leap of faith that I'm asking people to take a leap of faith with me and my band of brothers.
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These are the best of the best of the best working with me right now.
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And you can subscribe on the website, sponsor a camera, get access to our website.
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We'll have more material for you very soon, but I think it requires taking a leap of faith.
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And I think the real mission here is to give people hope.
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I think that real miss mission is to give people hope and, um, get through this fear
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that people are fearing, feeling, uh, people are very afraid.
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So it's our job to find the people who are not afraid and create an army of citizen journalists.
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Now, now I got to ask, right, because, you know, I, and I follow you on social media.
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I don't just share the stuff, but, but you at this picture with a right, you know, obviously
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in the wake of Pfizer, someone who's been very outspoken at that RFK junior, you guys
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Like you're on the, on, on a huge hike, obviously on social media, you've been posting that you
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And if you can, for us, cause I got a little bit of time left with you here, walk me through
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Like, do you find that training, that physical fitness is a way for you to maintain?
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Obviously you've got a huge, you've got so much hope, even in the face of everything
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that's been thrown against you, you've got energy, you've got exuberance, you've got ambition.
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Do you find that that comes through physical activity and do you find that helpful?
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Walk us through just what's, what's a day in the life of James O'Keefe like?
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Well, I think that the biggest source of strength through this whole process has probably come
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Um, and there's been a lot of grace afforded to me, although I've been through a lot of
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pain in my life and everyone of us goes through pain, right?
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We all experience pain different, differently, and we lose loved ones or, you know, get fired
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Um, and to help answer your question, um, you know, my mentor, Andrew Breitbart died March
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1st, 2012, arrested twice by the FBI, uh, three years on effective house arrest when
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I was 25 to 28 years old, two federal jury trials in the last three years, constant defamation
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In the very beginning, when I was 26, the Wikipedia page made me cry.
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I mean, just literally stating the opposite of what is true.
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And it just over and over again for so many years, it strengthens you for the next, for
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And I mean, I went through a horrible trial and in September of literally this past year,
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two weeks in federal court with a, with a jury who was, it was just, it was just a horrible,
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All these things have strengthened me like a muscle in the gym.
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You could call it spiritual muscle conditioning.
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Uh, I would say that the spiritual fitness, that's right.
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Um, and, and I, I would say that those things have prepared me for the next one so that even
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though ostensibly the most recent thing looks the worst being shackled and put in federal
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You know, being stuck in a courtroom for two weeks with jurors who want to kill you just
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because they think they, they know they don't like your perceived politics.
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Um, being alone on house arrest and having federal probation officers harass my family,
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And I, and I managed to, we managed to be resilient in the face of those impossible odds.
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So I think there's the spiritual aspect of this, which is a fight of good versus evil
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Um, and the evil has gotten worse and the good has gotten more good.
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And I think there's also every, every day you have to take care of yourself.
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You have to, whether it's an hour in the gym or hiking with RFK in Los Angeles, which I
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Um, I spent some time with him and he knows a lot about Pfizer.
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He knows a lot about the United States government through letter agencies and what they're doing.
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Um, I think it's very important that we take care of ourselves physically because our body
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And, um, I make sure that every day I probably, at least for an hour to an hour and a half,
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Um, you know, I I'll admit when I was going through college, that wasn't something that
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I was, I was learning, learning Mandarin, finding out about the CCP.
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But for me, it was when I joined the military and then started getting used to this general
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regimen of, uh, physical fitness, watching your diet, understanding that, you know, God
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And it is up to us to maintain that, to perfect that, to continue to make it better.
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And he didn't give us those things for us to just sit on the couch and do nothing with,
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And so when I hear you talk about this, you're right.
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It's mental training because a lot of, look, you can, you can be physically strong.
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You can be as physically strong as you want, but if you don't know how to respond when
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somebody, you know, writes a hit piece on you or starts attacking you in the media or
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not even on your level where they're going after you in court, where they're going after
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you through legal processes, you will completely break down.
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And I find that that's something that's sorely lacking in our society today.
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And I think it's what's gotten us to this point.
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And so if I could say anything about, about what you're doing with the new group, the fact
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And by the way, everyone who asked me that, and even, you know, we only chatted a little
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bit, uh, when, when you were all dark on Twitter, et cetera.
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And I was, people were asking me, is James okay?
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Is James, I said, do you know anything about James O'Keefe?
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He's going to be perfectly fine because he's been through 10 times worse than this.
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I'm asking what, don't ask me about James O'Keefe.
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That's exactly what you're talking about with the OMG.
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A lot of people want to live, maybe perhaps vicariously through me, uh, or they kind of want
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to see my trajectory because, you know, the tip of the spear is, was one of the values.
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Um, but I, I think there's a lot to say about that spiritual strengthening.
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Um, the, the difficulties, the challenges of being in federal court, the litigation piece
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has been, I mean, man, I've been sued dozens of times, deposed, doesn't, you know, dozen times,
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um, key witness in so many different pieces of litigation.
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Um, and I would say that that, that has been very challenging and, and, uh, um, and sometimes
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taxing and Kafka ask it's, it's very difficult to, for a, for a, for a man to, uh, maintain
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When you're, when you're confronted with so much gaslighting, you have to have a firm
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constitution, you have to have a strong sense of identity, a strong sense of right and wrong.
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You have to stick by your guns, particularly in politics, which I don't consider myself
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But, um, in politics, there's a lot of phony people.
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There's a lot of people who are in it for the cloud or the fame or whatever you want to
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And, and they're, they're not approaching things from a rational perspective.
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So it's, it is, it is a very unique journey, but, um, I'm doing great.
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I've got so many things to do as I'm sitting, talking to you, this is quite a long segment.
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I'm getting dozens of emails of people that are like, get me the camera.
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By the way, the, uh, that, the, that book Kafka.
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So the trial, and everyone should go read the trial by Kafka, but I don't know if, uh, I
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forget if I mentioned this with you, maybe it was on with Charlie, but I recently found out
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that the German title of the trial by Kafka, I actually think it's better.
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It's, and it's so perfect because throughout the entire book, he, he's never even informed
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He's never, he doesn't, it's not explained to him what he's accused of being done, but
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of course they have their informant and they have their evidence and they have their accusations.
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And so if you haven't been through a trial like that, if you haven't been put into this
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system, people need to understand the process is the punishment.
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The process is you tweeted that out after my FBI raid.
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And, um, it was very much a sort of Damocles that was very difficult.
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Um, because what it's designed to do is it's designed to instill fear in you like a perjury
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trap and what you, you're not supposed to continue.
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I continue, I mean, that was three years ago almost, and I continued going.
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Um, but you know, you get the criminal defense lawyers and then they say, well, you're not
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supposed to say anything or do anything, hide in your apartment, you know?
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So it's just this fear-based approach to living.
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But the, the sort of Damocles, that's a very apropos metaphor, which is like to say after
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that happened, I mean, the, for the FBI to raid your home is a very aggressive thing and
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And I was the, one of the first journalists in the United States history to ever be raided
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by the FBI so much so that the ACLU and the reporters committee have come out in my defense
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and requested these affidavits remain unsealed.
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So yes, it's Kafkaesque because they would never do that to the New York times or CNN.
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If you're, if you're a man that cares about justice, the injustice, it can, it can really
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That is why the people that are signing up on this website have to be strong people.
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They have to be really strong and have an incredible sense of self, an incredible sense of right
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It's about the line in the sand, the line that separates good and evil runs through each
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and every human heart, not through states or political parties, but each and every one
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And it's in the, and it's drawn in the hearts of the, of the people that we expose here at
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OMG and the evil and the lies and the malfeasance and the line that the pocket, the pockets with
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And the only hope for society is a citizen army and holding the institutions accountable.
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You can go to this website right now and help us sponsor a camera.
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Um, and, um, I'm going to make this bigger and badder and we're going to change the world
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Is there any, any last message that you have for us for the entire community before you
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James O'Keefe, the, the founder, do you even have an official title yet there?
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Founder and CEO of the O'Keefe Media Group, okeefemediagroup.com.
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James, thank you so much for your time with us today.
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All right, folks, remember the website is O'Keefe Media Group, okeefemediagroup.com.
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Incredible interview going inside the mind of James O'Keefe to give us the truth about
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everything that's happened over the past six weeks and more.
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One thing's for sure, James, whatever you do going forward, be there with you.
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Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.