Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - SUNDAY SPECIAL： THE UKRAINE AGENDA WITH JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO

00:00:00.000 ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard today's sunday special here on human events daily we are very

00:00:16.600 excited to bring our guest on today we have you've known him you've followed him for a very long time

00:00:22.040 certainly long career long career out in media appearing in both the washington times in reason

00:00:28.720 he's been an analyst for fox news he was a judge in the new jersey superior court we are very excited

00:00:33.360 to bring on uh the new current host of judging freedom judge andrew napolitano thank you so much

00:00:40.120 for joining us judge oh jack it's a pleasure to be with you it's an honor to be on your very uh popular

00:00:45.920 platform thanks for having me well i appreciate it and i have to say kudos to the new show uh i've been

00:00:51.880 watching it very frequently i love when you do the uh the clips and the shorts of it um those are they

00:00:58.000 always seem to catch me i say i'm not going to watch this full episode and then i watch a short

00:01:01.740 of it and i say he sucked me in i've got to watch the full episode now well that's nice he caught me

00:01:07.960 again that's nicely put especially coming from one professional to another uh it it's been uh enjoyable

00:01:15.100 we started out with uh 93 viewers uh and were mocked by my former colleagues in new york but we now

00:01:24.740 have a million a week you know where that stands uh uh against other uh platforms so i'm very happy

00:01:33.260 with those numbers and with the following that we've developed well i've seen interview after

00:01:37.900 interview i mean you're racking up hundreds of thousands of views per per clip i hope people

00:01:42.880 understand that per clip and it's it's been one of the fastest growing uh channels that i've certainly

00:01:47.960 seen on youtube and i think that one of the biggest reasons and and obviously you you cover a

00:01:52.740 variety of issues but i really think it's because specifically of your analysis of what i and i

00:02:00.060 wanted to call today's episode as we we hurdle towards the one year anniversary of the start of

00:02:05.700 the ukraine war and this week we saw the reporting from seymour hirsch which obviously is offering

00:02:10.840 a lot of information that we're not getting from the mainstream media and i think that's exactly the

00:02:15.600 same uh vein as what you've been doing is because you're presenting analysis information on the ground

00:02:21.900 reports on the ground sourcing that is just not found anywhere else in mainstream media particularly

00:02:27.980 as relates to ukraine and the agenda behind the ukraine war you know it it is a head scratcher to

00:02:34.920 me and and thank you for the compliment jack but it is a head scratcher to me why mainstream media is

00:02:42.180 not covering uh what we do even uh my former colleagues who are still my good friends uh at fox

00:02:49.340 uh of those folks i think only tucker carlson is presenting you know he utilizes the services of

00:02:56.720 uh colonel uh doug mcgregor uh as frequently as i do he tucker appears to be the only major fox

00:03:04.580 personality that is presenting this point of view new york times wall street journal which is owned by my

00:03:10.940 former bosses uh washington post forget about it you're just not getting uh this view that the war

00:03:19.980 is futile that there's no way that ukraine can win that there is zero american moral legal constitutional

00:03:29.680 national security uh interest involved in the outcome of the war that every penny we spend is wasted

00:03:37.080 that uh further destroys innocent lives russian and ukrainian uh and extends a war is not going to

00:03:46.400 result in in putin's uh ouster is not going to result uh in uh crimea being under the control of

00:03:54.160 kiev again you know and to be clear you present both sides you have people on that are are pro ukraine you

00:04:00.000 have people on that are that are there uh training ukrainian soldiers and ukrainian troops you have people

00:04:05.020 there that are are members of the cia that completely disagree with others of your guests

00:04:08.880 and you've presented both sides of this which is really what you're supposed to do in a little

00:04:13.480 thing that i used to call journalism or i used to think was called journalism you can't seem to find

00:04:18.300 that on any of the major mainstream networks anymore you know as you and i were talking before we came on

00:04:24.280 air uh my base uh followers uh would be highly critical of me when i would put on uh the young man

00:04:34.280 and matt van dyke who who reports from kiev who's uh very pro ukraine who's a military american military

00:04:42.860 veteran and runs some outfit called sons of liberty international which basically supplies

00:04:49.120 technical information and know-how to the ukrainian military i want to have jack divine on jack his career

00:04:56.960 uh jack was in charge of russian espionage monitoring russian espionage in the united states and conducting

00:05:06.360 american espionage in russia and initially my uh regular base was highly critical of me for having

00:05:14.380 them on now they love to hate these guys i can tell that from the messages they send but they watch

00:05:20.680 in droves because they are happy to hear both sides uh being uh presented they are happiest as you

00:05:28.240 pointed out when i run clips of these pro-ukrainian people before scott ritter or doug mcgregor and they

00:05:35.660 just explode when they when they hear what's being said you know what is the what is the reason though and

00:05:43.020 and and you you obviously have a huge career in mainstream media what is the reason that mainstream

00:05:48.740 media has been reduced to this sort of almost propaganda narrative that promotes the death

00:05:53.560 of these innocent people and i look we took the program we went to ukraine we broadcasted from there

00:05:58.280 last summer we did the night train to odessa we went all the way down to mikolaev almost all the way

00:06:03.480 to kerson we saw the the herson highway uh as we were there and the people who are caught in the

00:06:09.920 middle of this refugees women and children going back and forth why is it that it seems like we're

00:06:15.260 promoting this i i i i don't know the answer i suspect that cia and mi6 have um so ingratiated

00:06:27.240 themselves with mainstream media by leaking and slipping not necessarily secrets but their version

00:06:33.940 of events and uh journalists feel uh empowered emboldened uh and privileged uh to be able to reveal

00:06:43.500 this in their uh journalism but they're just becoming tools uh of uh of government i mean i know that

00:06:49.960 there are cia and mi6 agents who are telling the truth to their bosses but i don't know that that

00:06:56.520 is making its way to the british prime minister and uh to the oval office somewhere up the food chain

00:07:04.140 the the real data the raw data of what's happening on the ground gets translated into the version

00:07:11.920 uh that uh joe biden and the british prime minister and i don't mean to be picking on him

00:07:18.220 but they they do operate hand and glove their two um intelligence agencies uh want to hear

00:07:24.620 and uh somewhere along the line that is furthered by getting back to a long-winded answer to your

00:07:31.380 question uh mainstream media i am surprised that some of my former colleagues for mouthing

00:07:37.620 uh the so-called party line rather than uh taking a look at things particularly now as it becomes so

00:07:45.840 obvious so obvious that ukraine cannot uh win this war how joe biden gets out of this but without boots

00:07:54.160 on the ground which of course would be catastrophic and immensely unpopular and and profoundly

00:08:00.720 unconstitutional how he gets out of this without boots on the ground i don't know

00:08:04.600 well and and of course we we keep hearing it slipped that there are trainers observers auditors

00:08:10.720 recorders uh advisors that are already there matt matt van dyke who again is military veteran and pro

00:08:19.700 ukraine and on the ground says they're there and jack they're not wearing uniforms what does that mean

00:08:25.940 well that allows plausible deniability by secretary of state blinken secretary of defense austin and the

00:08:32.840 president but but it is a violation of the geneva convention it also allows american military out of

00:08:39.680 uniform to be shot on sight legally by the russians as spies they have no protection of the geneva

00:08:46.900 convention uh when they're out of uniform i don't know that putin uh would do that i think he's a lot

00:08:53.380 smarter than we give him uh credit for even though we've already started the war against them i know

00:08:58.800 we're going to get to this by attacking uh the nordstrom uh pipeline that was an act of war uh

00:09:05.360 but american troops are on the ground out of uniform i'm also told this is also crazy that they're

00:09:12.400 unarmed troops in a battle zone unarmed out of uniform how crazy can you get well it's almost like

00:09:21.600 and and and to your point you know whether or not the russian command wants that uh would would go for

00:09:26.700 that or would order that that also doesn't necessarily you know account for any possible

00:09:31.640 interaction that could happen on the ground uh shelling artillery indirect fire mortar fire or a you

00:09:38.720 know a checkpoint that doesn't go wrong i mean you can think of all the permutations mind warfare etc

00:09:43.600 let me let me add another person being killed let me add another permutation jack because you and i

00:09:49.540 i believe that this already happened um a false flag do you remember when a missile killed two polish

00:09:58.540 uh villagers oh that's right and in fact i got a lot of criticism for my comments about that

00:10:06.260 oh no i was 100 with you and still am fired from russian captured russian equipment

00:10:13.480 fired by ukrainians from ukraine at the poles because the president of poland has a hair trigger

00:10:20.680 temper the president of poland is of the belief that somehow by some act of god crimea is going to be

00:10:27.660 returned to control of kiev and he has 90 000 troops training with 40 000 american troops at the polish

00:10:34.500 ukrainian border and all he needs is some little hair trigger excuse uh to send those troops over the

00:10:40.700 border and i think uh president zelinski's people i don't know if zelinski himself could have ordered

00:10:45.280 this but president zelinski's people thought that by making it look like the russians had attacked

00:10:51.460 two poor polish villagers and killed them uh that this would be the hair trigger that the president of 0.89

00:10:57.440 poland needed fortunately it wasn't unfortunately something else will probably come well and indeed you

00:11:03.920 know one of the things that i've been very public about is why is it that president zelinski has never

00:11:10.180 once and i i can go back but i've for weeks i i was checking this and i hadn't seen it i've never

00:11:15.260 seen him once express any condolences to the country of poland to the citizens to the families

00:11:22.600 for this happening even just admit saying it's a terrible act i'm so sorry that it's happened we

00:11:27.480 never intended for this just a simple act of condolence even after poland has done so much to

00:11:33.480 take in the people of ukraine in their time of need obviously done so much to prop up his government

00:11:38.920 and yet he won't express a simple act of uh again condolence that something like this happened

00:11:46.120 and he will still go and claim that it was somehow orchestrated by russia when we obviously know that's

00:11:52.020 not true he's learned from his american masters who would never ever ever admit to something like

00:11:58.500 this even though the the evidence is inescapable and overwhelming uh that this was fired from ukraine

00:12:07.360 by ukrainians using captured uh russian uh equipment and was was murder was an attempt to murder two

00:12:15.440 poor unfortunate uh polish uh villagers who happen to be uh in the sites and you're right about what 1.00

00:12:23.620 the poles have done to alleviate uh ukraine suffering uh it's over the top well and so let's let's move on

00:12:30.780 to the next question then because as you said never admit uh that was something that they learned from

00:12:37.020 the americans and uh there's there's an old phrase um you know we even we even knew this when i was an

00:12:42.900 intelligence officer uh for the united states navy they say never believe something until it's been

00:12:46.920 officially denied and at the very start of seymour hirsch's bombshell article this uh this week that

00:12:54.520 came out that we you could actually argue whether or not it's a bombshell and i haven't i have a take

00:12:59.900 on that but you have these official denials from the cia from the state department from the biden

00:13:04.440 administration this did not happen biden administration was absolutely not behind the

00:13:08.880 bombing of nordstrom one and nordstrom two but the reason that i say that the seymour hirsch article

00:13:13.520 isn't necessarily a bombshell it's because i look at it and say is there anyone with a right thinking

00:13:19.160 mind that actually thought that something else happened here other than uh someone in the west

00:13:24.860 or associated with nato took out those pipelines no no a knowledgeable person uh would believe that

00:13:32.160 there are of course those who fall prey uh to the propaganda uh put out by your former colleagues

00:13:40.140 put out by the cia put out by a dozen american intelligence sources and picked up by the mainstream

00:13:47.380 media but those who have followed this with with clarity and with an understanding of the

00:13:52.060 engineering your field uh as to how this could have happened are consistent with the dutch investigation

00:13:59.660 which concluded this could only have been done by a government and what government could have done

00:14:05.540 the seymour hirsch's article whatever you think of uh of cy hirsch's politics this article

00:14:11.180 is filled with such uh detail and substantiation it is it is profoundly credible not because i want to

00:14:20.780 believe it i wish it weren't true but it is profoundly credible again how uh biden and company get out of

00:14:27.440 this is beyond me but jack you don't see it in mainstream media this morning you see it in on on

00:14:33.340 websites uh you don't see it on fox you don't see it in the new york times you don't see it in the

00:14:38.640 washington post uh i don't even know if anybody is going to ask that uh lunatic that is uh is joe

00:14:45.660 biden's uh press spokesperson i guess they don't call them press secretary anymore uh kareem jean pierre

00:14:52.380 i don't know if anybody's even going to ask her uh but it is clear the american involvement and where is

00:14:58.920 this as a matter of law it's an act of war and it's an act of war against russia and against germany

00:15:06.100 germany owned the pipeline so whoever ordered this and it could only have come from the president of

00:15:11.820 the united states caused tens of millions of germans to suffer through a cold winter uh in order to

00:15:21.340 inconvenience the russian treasury now they have done minimal damage to the russian uh economy but in the

00:15:30.580 way uh have caused catastrophic injury like the destruction of this uh pipeline what joe biden says

00:15:38.400 to the chancellor of germany i don't know what he'll say to vladimir putin when they get back on

00:15:44.020 speaking terms i don't know but it's an act of war not declared uh by the congress totally immoral

00:15:51.780 utterly unconstitutional and probably criminal do you judge view this in the light of so there's a

00:16:01.960 phrase that i've noticed from even my own comment section in getting into this where they call it

00:16:06.540 newland's private war uh victorian you know sort of a take on charlie wilson's war newland's private

00:16:11.500 war victorian newland's war this idea that she was out publicly prior to the invasion saying that

00:16:19.220 nordstrom would be taken down then president biden comes out and says that this pipeline will be ended

00:16:26.780 this project will be ended how are you going to do that and he says we have the ability to do it don't

00:16:31.240 worry uh this of course happens before again before any russian troops have crossed into ukraine or the

00:16:38.940 donbass and there is an there is a a theory out there i guess or i should say some speculation that

00:16:46.280 that this was always the plan that this has been uh to an extent uh all about energy it's about um

00:16:53.700 not necessarily the specifics of the energy but also the petrodollar and the dominance of america

00:17:01.000 over europe and western europe writ large in order to keep the european economy down to hurt uh german

00:17:09.320 manufacturing base which of course is a boon to china it's a boon to so many other uh properties out

00:17:15.080 but is this and has this always been a power play of not only because you're right that it that the

00:17:22.520 russians certainly are losing money on this but i think we really do overlook the financial and

00:17:27.900 political implications of the suffering that this has done to germany and to germans economy writ large

00:17:34.360 oh man you you you have described this about as accurately and eloquently as i've ever heard

00:17:41.560 described jack and and there's little that i can add thank you uh to amplify it except to say that

00:17:48.440 the nato treaty never contemplated one nato member attacking another it's it's the opposite of that

00:17:56.600 it's it's that all nato members will will come to the aid of one that is attacked by the way this brings

00:18:03.960 us back to the polish president just permit me a little aside here uh one of his former cabinet

00:18:09.720 ministers revealed just last week a harebrained scheme which would whereby poland would annex

00:18:17.800 the western part of ukraine as a polish protectorate and as soon as a shot was fired there they would 1.00

00:18:26.040 argue that this would uh trigger article five of course such an annexation would itself be an act of

00:18:32.040 aggression and an act of aggression does not trigger uh article five i don't know where this is under the

00:18:39.800 nato treaty nato i've been very critical of donald trump as you know it's probably why i'm no longer at fox

00:18:45.960 but i'm on this trump in my view was a hundred percent uh correct uh nato is just an american uh play

00:18:54.200 thing uh used by uh the american uh globalists and nationalists uh to suppress europe uh and to

00:19:02.840 control europe and to pay europe's uh bills for defense there shouldn't be a nato we shouldn't be

00:19:09.720 spending a nickel on it we shouldn't have all those uh troops there but we do and joe biden for all of his

00:19:16.680 uh perception being an old man that's out of it uh is really um using american power uh to suppress nato

00:19:28.200 and advance american imperialism as condemnable as that is going back to george washington and john

00:19:34.920 adams uh far more effectively than uh barack obama or bill clinton ever did so the use of american

00:19:43.720 imperialism the idea that uh we are the only country that is moral and we can spread americanism

00:19:50.520 around the world that doesn't spread liberty and doesn't spread democracy ask george w bush about

00:19:57.320 that in afghanistan and iraq it spreads violence murder torture death theft and lying these are arts 0.70

00:20:06.040 that the american government is expert in yeah there's there's that old um there's that old quote

00:20:13.480 from the original uh i'm trying to pull it up right now the original commander of nato about um

00:20:21.800 uh secretary general ismay he said the original part he was the original um commander of nato

00:20:27.320 and they asked him what the purpose of it was and he responded the purpose of nato is back in the 50s

00:20:33.080 the purpose of nato is to keep the soviet union out the americans in and the germans down and when you 0.97

00:20:40.600 look at this through that lens it actually is very interesting that what you're what you're seeing

00:20:45.000 essentially is just an extension of the cold war thinking that we saw from the 1950s and maybe that

00:20:51.960 made sense in the 1950s when the insane bolsheviks were running the kremlin and were running moscow 0.97

00:20:57.320 uh but at the same time and this is something to your point that president trump used to talk about that

00:21:01.880 after the sonia union fell then that nato found itself in this place where it wasn't didn't necessarily

00:21:07.080 have a reason to exist and there are many people i think at one point that were saying perhaps nato

00:21:13.320 could be turned into sort of an international counter-terrorism organization i would put myself

00:21:18.600 in that camp certainly uh this was during the rise of isis this was during the rise of these various

00:21:23.160 groups in the middle east that were getting into europe essentially through um through migrants and

00:21:28.120 everything else that was going on there that certainly nato could find itself to pivot to uh focus on

00:21:35.240 the the new emerging threats and that possibly there there would be some some reason for working

00:21:42.120 with russian security services who obviously have a keen eye into those areas of daga stan and

00:21:49.320 the caucuses where you find this the boston bombers come to mind where we were warned of the boston

00:21:54.680 bombers by the russian fsb and then of course james comey and muller never did anything about it so

00:21:59.240 but but but it seems though nato and you kind of see this now with a lot of folks who are sort of in

00:22:06.280 this this next generation of intel officers and military officers that they've just adopted the cold

00:22:13.480 war thinking and that there is no been no update whatsoever to looking at geopolitics as they are today

00:22:19.400 it's just a continuation of that lord ismay's uh maxim that we must always do this and nobody ever

00:22:26.120 sits down and explains why well you understand the uh uh mentality of uh naval intelligence and military

00:22:36.280 intelligence and of intelligence officers in general far but i wouldn't i would say that they

00:22:40.760 are mental i agree with you there yeah i mean but but but what you're saying is that they uh they assume

00:22:49.320 the the cultural and geopolitical attitudes of the people who trained them which is usually the

00:22:55.560 generation before uh the same thing you mentioned comey the same thing is the case uh with the fbi

00:23:01.800 since the uh since 9-11 uh and the patriot act uh one of the worst pieces most liberty assaulting

00:23:10.600 pieces of legislation ever enacted maybe the worst since the alien and sedition acts in 1798

00:23:16.280 a generation of fbi agents has come of age learning how to spy on americans without using the fourth

00:23:23.720 amendment without getting a search warrant uh from judges it's now de rigueur getting a search warrant

00:23:29.560 is the exception rather than the norm the problem comes about when they have to use whatever evidence

00:23:34.440 they got in federal court then they have to find some way to claim how they obtained the evidence

00:23:40.280 lawfully the same thing i gather is the case uh with the mentality of intelligence uh agents who still

00:23:48.440 are operating with the cold war mentality who still mistrust uh anything uh russian uh scott ritter

00:23:56.920 who is on with me uh once a week you know is expert in this area uh arguing that the russians are

00:24:06.360 no different than we are and want to live peacefully and want to live prosperously and they're afraid of

00:24:12.120 us why we have weapons at their border they don't have weapons at our border the last time i looked and

00:24:19.960 i monitor this stuff the way you do putin never uh threatened joe biden uh senator lindsey graham publicly

00:24:28.680 asked joe biden to have putin assassinated so tell me who's crazy and who's rational all right and you

00:24:35.880 also have the the recent comments in the interview from uh former israeli prime minister naftali bennett

00:24:41.160 where he depicts a conversation with putin that he said would you sit down with zelinski would you

00:24:46.040 hammer out some deal this is i think one month the time frame that he's talking about into this whole

00:24:51.240 thing and both putin and zelinski seem to have agreed to at least a you know a premise or pretext

00:24:59.000 for having a conversation about putting this thing back on the shelf and turning this thing off

00:25:03.480 turning the troops back and there's this story that uh bennett uh tells saying that you know you plan

00:25:10.360 to kill zelinski and putin says no we're actually not interested in that and then of course that's

00:25:15.240 when zelinski starts making these these videos outside on the street and then bennett points out

00:25:19.880 that he it wasn't until he told zelinski that putin said that that he started making all of these

00:25:25.400 videos out on the street said no we're not we're not targeting this guy i'd be happy to to sit down

00:25:30.760 with him and you know to go back to the the start of all of this because i do think that people have

00:25:37.640 they're missing a lot of the context here because they do it's sort of like when you go back to if you

00:25:43.400 ask the the typical mainstream media uh viewer about you know what happened in 2014 in ukraine

00:25:50.360 and they'll talk about the invasion of crimea they'll consider it an annexation they'll say it

00:25:55.000 was illegal there was in a referendum etc etc but they will never talk about maidan and we had rahim

00:26:00.440 kasam on here last week and we were talking all about the maidan revolution how that was as the founder

00:26:06.040 of stratfor said a textbook to a textbook political coup done by the united states clearly a color

00:26:12.200 revolution if there ever was one and rahim was actually there in kiev in 2013-2014 when this

00:26:18.120 was happening and some of the same names judge that you have just mentioned were actually there

00:26:22.440 fanning the flames of this victoria newland senator lindsey graham at the time senator john mccain

00:26:27.560 marco rubio played a role in some of this as well as in libya and syria and so it does seem to be

00:26:33.240 that they're missing a lot of the context of and and again you know i'm sitting here as an american

00:26:37.800 saying look i i you know i don't have skin in this game one way or the other but i also don't understand

00:26:44.120 what the strategic national interest for americans and american national security is but we also look

00:26:50.040 at the fact that it is it true judge that you that you've seen and in your reporting that there were

00:26:56.440 peace terms that were actually offered even before the invasion that were completely denied

00:27:03.480 by not only uh nato but the biden administration as well as far as i know uh it is true and from my uh

00:27:13.240 reporting and from my education actually the the people that talk to me off air and on air it would

00:27:21.880 be very much like president uh putin to have wanted to have done that look putin is not in the business of

00:27:28.680 depleting his army uh and his army and military has been depleted not nearly the to the extent that

00:27:36.040 the ukraine uh defense ministry some sort of a baghdad bob like character claims uh but but he's

00:27:44.840 suffered seriously he didn't want to do that he would prefer to have uh returned russian-speaking

00:27:51.880 citizens and territory that has been russia's since before the american revolution back to russia without

00:28:00.200 firing a shot what's mystifying to me maybe it's not because tony blinken for all of his skills is is

00:28:09.160 really just focused on let's get putin out of office why there's not back channel negotiations going on

00:28:16.840 uh as we speak i mean there should be some american some ukrainian some russian diplomats

00:28:25.000 maybe in geneva or zurich uh speaking uh on a regular basis and i'd be surprised if that's

00:28:33.160 happening because we haven't heard a peep about it right and yes we we hear again and again that

00:28:38.760 these talks uh originally there were some talks that were going on in turkey that erdogan was brokering

00:28:43.640 some of this turkey of course has that dual relationship there um that there were talks

00:28:48.440 that are currently going on in the uae at least for prisoner transfers that have gone on a little bit

00:28:53.400 but that these deals naftali bennett talks about a deal that was scuttled uh boris johnson we have

00:28:59.720 reporting that he went over and personally told zelinski not to take any peace deals in terms of this

00:29:06.920 and then you go to the americans and and i hear this so much from the biden administration

00:29:11.160 that they barely actually talk about ukraine they'll talk about you know these these we'll

00:29:16.440 see these also by the way these very strange sort of prisoner swaps like britney griner for victor

00:29:21.400 bout it's just you know it seems ridiculous if you accept it on its face but if you look at it from

00:29:26.760 another another level they don't talk about ukraine they don't talk about how this benefits ukraine they

00:29:32.520 say we're doing this to punish russia we're doing this to deplete russia we're doing this to diminish 0.89

00:29:36.440 russia and and certainly you can see the results of that uh nordstrom 2 is gone their economic

00:29:42.360 relationship with europe is in tatters uh any hope of russia entering a an economic deal with the eu

00:29:49.000 or a schengen agreement for citizen travel etc etc i mean i think that's been scuttled for something

00:29:54.440 like the next 20 years and obviously nato has a new lease on life because of all of this and so if you

00:29:59.800 if you ask those if you ask to anthony blinken to take a uh a lie detector test

00:30:08.520 and said you know what what is what is the goal of american involvement in ukraine

00:30:14.520 is it to uh expel the russian military and russian citizens from crimea or is it to expel

00:30:24.600 president vladimir putin from office you would learn that hit the true goal is to expel

00:30:31.400 president vladimir putin from office and the same thing from victoria newland and i would imagine

00:30:37.960 um uh lloyd austin the secretary of defense uh as well and if you read between the lines what old joe

00:30:45.960 uh is saying sometimes just mouthing the words that his speech writers have written sometimes off the cuff

00:30:53.000 rationally uh speaking that is their goal their goal is to drive him from office but like much of what

00:31:00.360 government does when the pope suppress the latin mass there are more people attending the latin mass

00:31:07.560 worldwide than there were before he suppressed it god bless these people the right yes with these people

00:31:12.520 trying to drive putin from office his popularity has gone up it's so typical of government's heavy hand

00:31:22.440 of meddling in areas where it shouldn't meddle it has the opposite effect from the stated uh purpose

00:31:30.760 putin even if uh the poor guy that's in a prison camp who i love in russia even if he were out and

00:31:40.360 campaigning against him putin would win by overwhelming numbers now just because the american government has

00:31:46.840 demonized himself well and plus too i mean uh if anyone's uh studied any history of the region um

00:31:55.800 just because you get rid of rid of one russian ruler or one russian leader that doesn't necessarily

00:32:01.560 mean that the forces you unleash are going to be better i mean the last time that happened was 1917

00:32:06.360 when the germans decided to send a train car packed with communists and bolsheviks over to 0.99

00:32:11.480 moscow and st petersburg and we we saw that led to the bolshevik revolution that led to the soviet union

00:32:17.160 in charge that led to this lunatic regime that was at that point hell-bent on taking over the world and 0.77

00:32:23.000 certainly dominating all of europe uh this was completely insane so the idea that they would uh

00:32:28.760 depose the current leader and you'd get some regime or you know go look at the shah in iran for another 0.86

00:32:33.960 example uh leading to the which which set in motion the dominoes that led to you know the creation of

00:32:39.240 the ayatollah and that and the mullahs uh this idea that we are going to just and this is by the way

00:32:43.880 the the one spot where uh i always joke i say i don't i don't always agree with the libertarians but

00:32:48.680 on foreign policy i think we're very simpatico that uh you know this this idea that we are going to

00:32:54.360 simply walk around the world and knock over all these people that we don't like or who don't want

00:32:59.320 to go along with this that uh you know that it's going to make everything better it's there's no track

00:33:03.800 record of it anywhere none whatsoever correct but i do want to ask you about the finance

00:33:09.080 side of this and the fact that there is clearly not only an element of certainly the us being able

00:33:17.640 to backfill the energy sales to europe as we're seeing with europe with american elegy going through

00:33:22.200 the roof for western europe but also the idea of the petrodollar and sort of this this rise of the

00:33:28.680 new multipolar world as a potential i'll say competitor to the american backed system american hegemony

00:33:37.000 uh we said on earlier on the show this week that uh you'll you'll never know what type of trouble

00:33:42.920 the regime is willing to start when the petrodollar is on the line can you walk people through that can

00:33:47.560 you explain that well uh i'm of the view and of course you know i'm what libertarians call a true north

00:33:56.440 libertarian which means usually the most libertarian person uh in the room i'm i'm of the view that

00:34:02.680 competition uh improves the product uh i'm of the view that the dollar would actually be stronger if we

00:34:09.720 were uh competing with a petrodollar or a yuan dollar whatever you want to call it uh for uh world dominance

00:34:18.440 i'm of the view that a rising tide shift lifts all boats uh and when uh american industry and and the

00:34:27.320 american dollar uh is competing for the uh use uh by the rest of the world against another standard

00:34:36.840 um uh yardstick of measuring uh financial activity that both sides uh will will benefit from it i'm also

00:34:47.160 of the view and this goes back to john adams that we can't go around the world looking for monsters to

00:34:51.640 slay because there will be no end to our search uh we have you know this better than i do you've

00:34:58.360 probably been to many of them 903 903 military installations outside the united states around the

00:35:06.920 world uh where your former colleagues uh live and work uh and the american taxpayer and because we borrow

00:35:14.200 so much of our money taxpayers as yet unborn uh are uh are financing it no no human being can

00:35:21.480 name or be pretend to be familiar with all of that uh but we do uh we do pay for it uh we don't export

00:35:30.280 democracy when we go around the world looking for monsters to slay now i'm thinking of barack obama

00:35:37.720 using a drone to kill anwar al alaki not a nice guy but an american and never even charged with a crime 0.91

00:35:46.040 while he was sitting in a cafe with his son and the son's friend and the three of them were just

00:35:51.480 evaporated uh when we go around the world doing that we don't export democracy we don't export

00:35:58.680 liberty we don't export truth we export violence and that breeds more violence so maybe i'm not the

00:36:06.760 right person to give a full uh economic economics 101 explanation on the petrodollar uh versus the us dollar

00:36:15.560 uh but competition always improves the product uh and american imperialism uh will will bring about

00:36:24.200 the end of american liberty as we know it well i think that's i think that's right you know and i've

00:36:28.600 actually spoken to i don't know that i've said this publicly yet but i've actually spoken to members

00:36:32.840 of the trump administration who were lobbying very hard against nordstrom too uh you certainly know

00:36:38.920 we all know rick runnell had made it a huge uh part of his policy portfolio when he was the ambassador

00:36:45.080 to germany when he was there was constantly railing against this president trump of course railed against

00:36:49.160 it at the united nations this was a very well-known policy in fact when i was at the helsinki summit uh

00:36:54.920 with president trump and president putin that this was a huge point of contention between them when it

00:36:59.560 came up was north stream too but i i asked the question to uh uh to this guy i said did you ever

00:37:07.160 consider uh kinetic action to take it out did you ever consider uh you know sending in navy divers to

00:37:14.120 to just blow the thing up and he said well well no because that's world war three thinking that's the

00:37:18.920 type of stuff that gets you into situations where you might think it's a good idea if you forget the

00:37:24.920 fact that russia has the ability to respond well i mean i mean depending upon exactly who did this

00:37:34.920 if they were navy divers your buddies and then i say that with deference and respect to your career

00:37:42.840 in the military even though i've been very critical of the way it's been deployed i don't i don't criticize

00:37:48.440 the guys and girls who actually put their lives on the line i criticize management so to speak

00:37:55.640 um if joe biden used the military without notifying congress under the war powers resolution which i

00:38:05.000 think is unconstitutional but it is it is the law uh he's committed a very very serious violation

00:38:11.960 of federal law if on the other hand used intelligence agents now cy hearst says he used both but if he used

00:38:19.400 just intelligence agents as barack obama did when he was um uh getting rid of muammar qaddafi in libya

00:38:28.680 then there's no reporting uh requirement uh under american law but under the constitution

00:38:35.800 away from which the congress deviates more than it conforms uh it is absolutely unconstitutional for joe

00:38:44.120 biden or any president to instigate an act of war only the congress can declare war you want to declare

00:38:53.080 war on russia so you can blow that thing up go ahead and declare it you want to declare war on an ally 0.64

00:38:59.480 and live with the diplomatic and geopolitical fall out of that so you can destroy the allies ability

00:39:05.240 to keep their their their citizens and inhabitants warm in the winter go ahead and declare it but to

00:39:10.920 blow this up in secret is profoundly unconstitutional and unlawful and as this person that to whom you 0.93

00:39:19.000 spoke uh four or five or six years ago um the beginning of world war three maybe the beginning

00:39:27.800 of world war three is is this proxy war we're fighting in in ukraine i don't know but this overt

00:39:34.600 destruction of the property of foreign countries that wish us no ill and do not harm us at all is an act

00:39:45.320 of war to me it looks like it looks like a move of desperation that's done by and and and i've said

00:39:52.120 this many times and uh we have darren beady on who created this phrase the globalist american empire

00:39:57.800 and i do think that even though i say this to my to my followers i say this to the subscribers the

00:40:03.400 viewers that yes america was founded as a republic that's absolutely correct but along the way america

00:40:10.840 has certainly transformed and our government has certainly transformed to something that has far

00:40:15.240 more imperial in the phrase that that beady came up with this globalist american empire when you look

00:40:20.120 through when you look at america's actions through that lens when you look at the government action

00:40:23.720 through that lens it feels like an empire that is reaching out its tentacles to to claw in more

00:40:32.040 territories to keep more territories under its dominance to make sure that there's no deals that 0.77

00:40:38.040 are being made at the at the expense of the empire and it certainly seems to fit with a lot of what

00:40:43.240 you're saying about how these acts are completely unconstitutional in many cases unlawful and yet

00:40:47.800 there doesn't seem to ever be any accountability for it my um column called freedom's extinction

00:40:54.840 and it makes that a very argument you know the government that james madison uh gave us uh was a pure

00:41:03.160 uh republic uh with a lot of checks and balances uh and which basically required a consensus among the

00:41:11.880 electorate now the electorate now the electorate was you know adult white landowning males at the time

00:41:16.600 but a consensus among the electorate before any significant movement in one direction or another

00:41:23.560 was taken we no longer as as well as the protection under the fifth amendment of life liberty and property

00:41:31.320 from interference by the government requiring due process a jury trial at which the government must prove

00:41:37.400 that it's a firm's fault we are so far from that model that madison uh gave us so far from it to the

00:41:47.640 point where unelected uh bureaucrats in administrative agencies like the federal reserve uh can weaken the

00:41:58.280 value of everything that we own uh and a popularly elected president but without the

00:42:06.200 the consensus of Congress can engage in a war. These are very, very, very dangerous times.

00:42:13.920 What was everybody talking about a week ago today? A balloon, a balloon in the skies that

00:42:20.180 the government knew about for months and months and months that the government knows about. And

00:42:24.120 we send our balloons over there and they send their balloons over here. Why did we demonize

00:42:29.420 China for doing something we knew it was doing? Because old Joe wants to demonize China.

00:42:36.200 To build up a consensus for American imperialism in Taiwan. Another island.

00:42:43.480 Well, what I've, what I've said, it's impossible to defend.

00:42:46.420 What I've said so many times is, I don't know if you follow the work of Dr. John Mearsheimer,

00:42:52.020 but Mearsheimer released a warning a few months ago talking about exactly what you just said there.

00:42:57.740 This, this danger of, you know, do we understand the Chinese communist party? Do we, do we trust 0.99

00:43:03.280 them? Certainly no. But at the same time, are we really trying to escalate a two front global

00:43:09.380 conflict where on one hand we are in a, currently in a hot proxy war with Russia? I don't even know

00:43:17.780 if you can call it a proxy war because nobody's trying to hide the fact that we're in it. It's,

00:43:22.060 it's just openly in it. Um, and then at the same time, trying to escalate things with China to the

00:43:30.540 point where that Taiwan Island situation kicks off into another proxy war that the U S will find

00:43:38.180 themselves in where this would be insane front. I mean, you're, I don't, I don't know how to define

00:43:43.920 that other than the start of world war three. I don't know how else to explain it. We just can't

00:43:47.700 get enough military equipment by land or sea against the will of the Chinese government onto Taiwan.

00:43:55.440 We can't, uh, we can't expose American, uh, military in boots and uniform on the ground in

00:44:02.680 Ukraine. We simply cannot, we are not strong enough and we don't have the will. We don't have 1.00

00:44:08.140 the moral argument behind us to fight either of those wars. It would be insane. It would be

00:44:14.160 impeachable. It would be beyond imagining to try and do that, uh, at the same time, both instigated

00:44:20.580 by us. You know, this is not stopping Hitler in Europe or stopping Hirohito, uh, in Japan. This is

00:44:28.700 Joe Biden. It could be anybody fill in the blank. This is American imperialism trying to spread in Eastern

00:44:36.240 Europe, uh, and in the far East at the cost of American, uh, blood and treasure. The public simply

00:44:43.180 won't stand for it. You think LBJ was driven from office. The Democrats will be driven from office

00:44:48.100 for a generation. Well, you know, it won't be just the Democrats because you got Lindsey Graham

00:44:52.060 and, and a bunch of Kevin McCarthy controlled Republicans in the house in favor of all of this

00:45:00.000 as well. Judge, we're coming up on our last couple of minutes. Um, before I ask people what your

00:45:05.300 coordinates are, can you let us know what, what's, what should the American at home do? That's,

00:45:10.000 that's listening to us. That's, that's hearing our, uh, diagnosis of the situation. What would

00:45:15.480 the prognosis be then? What would be your plan for treatment of these issues?

00:45:22.420 Well, my plan for treatment of these issues is to bring the troops home. I would close nearly all

00:45:29.360 foreign, uh, foreign, uh, military, uh, equipment, not spending money on these, uh, on these foreign

00:45:49.220 bases. I would bring all the troops, uh, and all the, bring all the troops home and close down the

00:45:56.180 foreign bases. You, you know, this number, our military budget is greater than the budgets of

00:46:02.260 the next 12 countries combined, which of course includes Russia and China because they don't waste

00:46:10.020 it on all this imperialistic activity, uh, around the world in terms of what can be done, uh, home.

00:46:17.420 It's very, very difficult. Uh, you know, the intelligence community far better than I,

00:46:22.480 there are parts of the government that are insidious and have their claws into the, into the

00:46:27.220 Congress, whereby the Congress always votes to increase their budgets and to increase their,

00:46:32.120 uh, authorities. And those who spy on us domestically and waste our money, uh, in the military have a

00:46:38.480 lot more clout with the Congress than the average voter does. But talk about this, expose it. And if

00:46:45.160 you're Catholic, say a lot of Hail Marys. I've already got my rosary in for today, but, uh, and we'll

00:46:51.040 probably be doing another Latin rosary again later with, uh, with my boys, but judge congratulations

00:46:55.480 again on the success of the show on judging freedom. Uh, and I really think by the way,

00:47:00.660 that the success of your show in such a short time does absolutely show that there is an appetite for

00:47:07.580 this type of commentary, for this type of analysis, where can people go to find it? When can they go

00:47:12.840 find it? I mean, it seems like you're, you're, you're just putting out content like crazy these days.

00:47:16.440 Well, I put out a lot of content, so I do, um, a one-on-one interview like you and I are doing now

00:47:22.040 five days a week, Monday through Friday. Uh, and I do solos where I just sit right where I am now. And I

00:47:27.800 just talk about whatever the issue may be the FBI at Mar-a-Lago, Joe Biden declaring war on his own. I

00:47:35.320 forget what he did last week. I came up here. I was angry. It was about six o'clock at night. I called up my

00:47:39.820 producer who lives in Florida. I said, you know, get me the link. I want to go on air. What are you

00:47:43.840 going to do? I'm just going to attack Biden. I did it for 10 minutes, 450,000, uh, views and 90,000

00:47:53.320 comments, 99.9999. Those are the best ones over the top positive. I love because you'll sit there

00:48:01.480 and I'll do this too. I'm sure. And you'll plan something out and you'll have this architecture,

00:48:05.440 this great argument and you're making notes and you're reading, I've got all my articles set up

00:48:09.020 and that does, you know, it does okay. And then you'll, you'll just pop off something that comes

00:48:13.360 right from the gut and that one goes hyper viral. Correct. Correct. So, uh, it's judging freedom.

00:48:19.400 You can get it at judge and app.com. You can get it at judging freedoms channel on YouTube. You can get

00:48:25.180 it at Twitter. You can get it at Facebook. Uh, I used to be very popular with Tik TOK, but those people

00:48:31.460 over there, uh, got wise to me when I referred to abortion as homicide. Uh, and when I argued that

00:48:39.160 the federal government should not prosecute people for a conspiracy, five people to overtake the

00:48:45.000 government of the United States by violence, that is impossible to carry out a valid legal argument

00:48:51.180 made in every conspiracy case. Every time one is tried in every courthouse in the United States,

00:48:56.320 Tik TOK got furious at me. So now they use an algorithm to, uh, suppress me, but, uh, Facebook,

00:49:03.200 YouTube, um, uh, judging, uh, judge nap.com and judging freedom's own site, uh, have brought all

00:49:10.920 of my wonderful followers to look at my face and hear my voice. Well, I appreciate it. Judge

00:49:15.400 Napolitano. Make sure you guys are checking that out after you watch human events daily every day.

00:49:19.940 Keep in mind, but yeah, judging freedom. It's, it's a fantastic show. Congratulations again.

00:49:23.860 Thank you for joining us. Thank you, Jack. I hope, I hope you'll come on. I hope you'll visit with us

00:49:27.360 and you and I can have a conversation like this and I can explore your fertile brain and your

00:49:32.720 experiences, uh, in naval intelligence. Well, just wanted to say thanks again so much for joining us

00:49:38.020 here. Judge Napolitano, everybody go check out judging freedom and folks, as always, you have my

00:49:42.920 permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 12, 2023

SUNDAY SPECIAL： THE UKRAINE AGENDA WITH JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO

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