Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 04, 2022


Sunday Special: WILL BRAZIL FALL TO THE CCP? WITH MATT TYRMAND


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Join us for a special sunday special on the ongoing protests in Brazil and China as we take a deep dive into the corruption scandal that has rocked the Brazilian capital, Brasilia, since the beginning of the protests. Join me as I speak with my good friend Matt Tierman, an investigative journalist who has been covering the uprisings in both countries for years.

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00:00:00.000 ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to today's special sunday special here on human events
00:00:16.440 and we've got a great episode for you because there's so much going on in this world but
00:00:21.280 in particular two spots china and brazil we've been watching the white paper protests in china
00:00:29.580 and i've been covering it in depth but there's concurrently and simultaneously another people's
00:00:36.820 uprising going on in the southern hemisphere so we're not just talking about the eastern hemisphere
00:00:41.500 but also the southern hemisphere and that is in brazil and so since i've been covering down on
00:00:47.360 china i've not been able to cover brazil as much as i would like to so in cases like this it's always
00:00:52.880 good to have a friend and that is why i wanted to bring on today to break down so we can really go
00:00:58.660 through for this sunday special both of these uprisings in full detail my friend matt tierman
00:01:04.120 polish american investigative journalist matt thank you so much for being here with us on human events
00:01:09.020 thanks jack love love the intro awesome i know right i'm i give you the best intros in the business
00:01:14.960 that's that's that's how i get you to come back we go way back we go way back that was at my wedding
00:01:19.400 you were at you were at your wedding that was great it was a good polish american wedding
00:01:23.800 great polish house ours there yep so so break it down for me now i was just out in mexico city i did
00:01:30.260 cpac mexico city i i spent a few moments with eduardo bolsonaro uh word of rostegui talked a lot of people
00:01:37.900 down there and i even spoke to some brazilian journalists and i said you guys got to tell me
00:01:42.860 because i see these videos online i see people in the streets but i don't have the background i don't
00:01:48.800 have that strategic depth of knowledge like i do with china walk me through what is the situation
00:01:54.140 as it currently stands in brazil sure so it is uh really dynamic down there massive protests and the
00:02:04.000 media the global mainstream media is not covering it tucker's done a couple segments that i've been
00:02:07.980 on with him it's been the only one in sort of with a global reach media platform that has uh covered
00:02:13.140 it at all but this is potentially the largest demonstrations the largest manifestations of
00:02:19.260 people on the ground in a democratic country maybe ever i mean we're not talking thousands tens of
00:02:24.100 thousands or even hundreds of thousands we're talking millions and when all said and done it
00:02:28.000 may even be tens of millions brazil is the sixth largest country it is the second largest in our
00:02:34.220 hemisphere after the u.s it's the third largest economy by gdp after u.s and canada in this hemisphere
00:02:39.440 and it's a systemically important country for many many reasons beyond even the virtue of its size
00:02:44.820 incredibly resource rich uh and a bulwark uh at least in the modern era against this encroaching
00:02:51.960 latin american communism that has swept much of that continent uh starting with venezuela obviously
00:02:58.380 cuba was the bastion where the soviets had their foothold in building their whole workers the world 1.00
00:03:03.460 unite global movement uh and then venezuela they had a big victory in 2000 with chavez which then
00:03:09.000 uh maduro took over after chavez's death uh and that's been now accelerating in latin america
00:03:15.740 colombia just went to the left under petro chile under boric uh and by the way we should we should
00:03:21.780 throw down for for this is the part that i can point out that the ccp's fingerprints are all all over 0.93
00:03:27.280 all over this where do you think they're getting the money to fuel this uh pro-leftist pro-communist
00:03:34.480 open to the chinese communist party this is what this is how they institute one belt one road this
00:03:39.200 is how they get into our hemisphere they want the naval bases they want the ports they want everything
00:03:43.860 inside our own hemisphere so the ccp is behind a lot of 100 percent and we you got to go even back a 1.00
00:03:50.820 little bit uh lula was president uh 10 years ago he was in 2012 he was pushed out because of a public
00:03:56.740 corruption scandal and even obama in 2012 when it all came out said that lula was uh was absolutely
00:04:02.160 corrupt and his uh his vice president chief of staff took over dilma rousseff she was then convicted 1.00
00:04:07.860 a few years later for the same ensnared uh public corruption scandal uh people remember operation car
00:04:14.560 wash and this was all related to china uh this uh this workers party pt this is lula's party
00:04:20.500 uh they were selling brazilian natural resource assets to china for cash and bags and they were
00:04:26.660 laundering the money in a chain of car washes hence the moniker operation car wash so you had lula dilma 1.00
00:04:32.280 and dilma got impeached and convicted and was out of office and then temer served out the last two years
00:04:36.840 of her term from 16 to 18 which is when boston arrow was elected in reaction very much in reaction
00:04:42.780 to exactly that corruption and that was very much connected to china and china is like we talk about
00:04:49.460 the 20th century by the way by the way so so lula right who who was backed by the leftists um the
00:04:55.840 supreme court's coming down which is totally leftist in brazil um the election you bear you just got
00:05:01.600 ahead of of bolsonaro in the election that's what this whole thing is about they're you know they're
00:05:05.380 pointing out so many issues with when i was in mexico city right um when i was down there i'm i'm
00:05:11.780 sitting here doing my normal human events daily show right we're doing it on remote and then all of a
00:05:16.580 sudden i hear this cheering this screaming from outside the hotel and i go and look and i look
00:05:22.100 down and it's it's a group of antifa and leftists about 50 of them and they've got and matt angel it
00:05:28.300 ain't like in the u.s where they've just got the antifa flags they've got full on hammer and sickle
00:05:33.660 red flags and what they're chanting is viva lula viva and they're talking i'm like this guy is like a
00:05:42.340 communist leader in totally who had been in prison and here they are in mexico the communists are out
00:05:48.460 in full force for him and it ain't like in the u.s where they play these word game over anti-fascist
00:05:53.120 no we're just communists we're yeah oh no they they you know when people tell you who they are
00:05:57.380 believe them uh lula and his party it's not coincidental that their symbology and their colors
00:06:02.560 are bright red five pointed stars it looks like the marxism the political marxism of the 20th century
00:06:08.460 which the soviets were pushing all over the world now we know it's the chinese pushing this 1.00
00:06:12.300 and they also five pointed stars it is one of their symbols and the fact that they you know telling you
00:06:17.200 who they are hammer and sickles and pictures of lula next to each other protesting outside cpac
00:06:21.900 mexico city what's funny is they're not protesting or counter protesting in brazil because they don't
00:06:26.820 really have much of a base which only further uh gives credence to the the protest movement saying
00:06:32.200 they don't believe this election was honest and we have to go back a little bit and you know show
00:06:36.460 the history lula in 1990 formed the sao paulo forum sao paulo forum is cpac for marxists uh and
00:06:44.100 latin american marxists in particular and the sao paulo forum is where chavez and maduro were incubated
00:06:49.020 it's where uh petro from columbia boric from chile eva morales from bolivia uh it is a who's who of the
00:06:54.900 most vociferous latin american marxists where marxism has still maintained a foothold uh and a lot of it
00:07:01.140 has to do with the geopolitics of the corruption of the narco traffic trafficking where they would even
00:07:05.900 have a popular support whether it's the majority or a minority they are politically relevant they
00:07:12.100 have been for quite some time and if you look at some of the regions where lula and this sort of
00:07:17.260 marxist political left has done well uh in brazil it's in the poorer regions where there's indigenous
00:07:22.240 people in the north and northeast around the amazon and they showed in this election uh when they had
00:07:28.620 the data up on the public site that bolsonaro got zero votes in some of these precincts well there are
00:07:34.540 videos online we can see video affidavits of indigenous people saying no i voted for bolsonaro
00:07:39.180 i'm being disenfranchised uh so it tells you that something is rotten something is fishy of course
00:07:44.540 what would be the antidote to that transparency and instead what we've gotten out of the supreme
00:07:48.660 court and the brazilian mainstream press is attack the messenger and the message no transparency and the
00:07:53.900 military has had a right to do an audit and the electoral court that's subsidiary to the supreme court
00:07:58.840 and led by the same guy alexander de moreas who's imprisoning journalists and bolsonaro's political
00:08:03.980 allies uh they instead of you know complying with a constitutionally uh allowed and uh endowed audit
00:08:11.100 they're doing everything they can to block it out they will wait wait matt don't don't don't just bury
00:08:16.000 the lead arresting journalists detaining oh we're gonna talk about that i mean is there something is
00:08:20.320 there something you might want to tell the class about that sure uh for the last three years
00:08:26.140 the supreme court under alexander de moreas who has been who was appointed by temer temer was the pm
00:08:31.380 the president who came in after dilma part of the same there's a globalist kamal and a communist kabal
00:08:36.020 and they work very very closely together uh and they appointed these just these justices or these judges
00:08:41.320 which you know the word is such a misnomer because judges supposed to be impartial they're supposed to
00:08:45.680 be jurisprudence applied to interpretation of law according to the constitution and instead they have
00:08:50.820 become a out of control judicial dictatorship at behaving autocratically they have a fake news
00:08:58.060 investigation perfectly orwellian as we are so used to these days where they have gone after journalists
00:09:03.920 uh arrested them put them under house arrest uh de-platformed them en masse uh they've even
00:09:09.820 arrested a boston era congressman who called them out so it's funny because one of the ways that they
00:09:14.960 would uh you put a fig leaf of law over law over these arrests is saying well these people criticize
00:09:20.840 the supreme court so we're arresting them but they spread fake news we have to arrest and and by the
00:09:25.240 way what happened when you yourself went down to brazil to look into all of this now that's and that's a
00:09:32.380 you know an important piece of context people always ask me because you you know me well and bannon and
00:09:37.080 what's my beat usually internationally it's europe it's the eu sovereigntyist movements in poland and
00:09:41.440 hungary and sweden and germany and france and belgium and italy and spain
00:09:44.940 etc well i went to brazil cpac september 2021 with jason miller who was uh launching who just
00:09:51.360 launched getter and was making a push in brazil so jason and i went down with a couple of our
00:09:55.300 brazilian friends who are based in america and i gave a speech in cpac uh and about journalism and
00:10:01.000 the media and when we were leaving and we'd already it had been broken on sunday afternoon one of the
00:10:07.000 mainstream press volha globo one of the sort of uh the cnn's of brazil uh had wrote an article on sunday
00:10:13.100 afternoon that we had been under surveillance the entire time we had met with jair bolsonaro at the
00:10:17.400 brazilian version of the white house pictures were floating around online and i said to jason i said
00:10:22.060 there's a good chance we're detained at the airport uh tomorrow when we leave and lo and behold that is
00:10:26.320 exactly what happened and they detained us and interrogated us and wanted to know all the names
00:10:32.200 of the people who were involved in brazilian cpac the organizers all the journalists we spoke to
00:10:36.620 all the political uh people elected from bolsonaro's party they want they said you guys are not under
00:10:42.260 arrest but we have a criminal investigation and we want to know as part of the investigation who did
00:10:47.440 you meet with and that was a very stasi tactic it opened my eyes they wanted names so they can do the 1.00
00:10:52.260 same thing that you know the doj is doing pre-dawn raids on journalists put them on the enemies list
00:10:57.480 sanction them revoke passports all things that they've been doing for the last few years and have
00:11:02.360 accelerated going into this election and then even more so after the first round and since the protest
00:11:07.080 movement began so that got me rather interested in understanding this uh out of control judiciary
00:11:12.800 that is totally at odds with the constitution and rule of law and so i did a very deep dive on this and
00:11:18.540 i wrote about 5 000 word piece for uh todd wood cdm.press creative destruction media uh on and the title
00:11:24.800 was quite simple and so germane to the things we're talking about the most important electoral battleground
00:11:29.180 in 2022 against global communism and it's really been proven out all the things that i alleged uh
00:11:34.660 and published a week or two before the election uh calling these people out well they went hog wild
00:11:39.560 and we're we're coming up on our on a hard break hold it right there because we are going to go but i
00:11:45.880 want to bring this back because you're on the tarmac you're down there for cpac you're down there for
00:11:50.820 a publicly uh known international conference that's that's been operation for decades and you're getting
00:11:57.520 detained because there's this power struggle between the duly elected president and then the
00:12:03.300 unelected or unelected appointed judiciary down in brazil that's controlled by the communists stick
00:12:10.120 with us we'll be right back here human events sunday special all right we're here back with matt
00:12:17.020 tierman when we left he was just telling us about his harrowing escape from brazil now matt was this
00:12:23.460 rio de janeiro or is this uh was brazilia brazilia this is brazilia you're the capital of brazil you're
00:12:28.600 harrowing escape that you're being interrogated by the guards you don't know if you're about to be
00:12:33.160 thrown into some kind of uh you know a tropical amazonian dungeon or or you know some such black 1.00
00:12:40.000 site you know where you're never heard from again where they uh you know they're they're they're
00:12:43.900 throwing leeches and tree frogs at you and you you will tell us the information but but we're trying
00:12:50.500 to understand this dynamic and i think this is tough for people to get um but but i think i that
00:12:54.940 to put it this way we don't necessarily have this in the u.s but we do have something called a deep
00:12:59.680 state well and and from from what you're telling me and tell me if i have this right it sounds as though
00:13:04.380 our deep state in the u.s is analogous to sort of this judiciary uh framework this apparatus in
00:13:13.080 brazil so they have the ability to force arrests to launch investigations it's different from the u.s
00:13:19.480 it's different from our system where doj is is more tied to the presidency they it's basically
00:13:24.280 they've got their own ability to launch this stuff and in doing so right guys keep in mind
00:13:29.180 we're talking about south america right this isn't exactly you know it isn't exactly new uh for for
00:13:34.240 down there um and so this is probably this is by the way what led to the problems in the 80s right
00:13:38.720 the same similar problems that led to uh everything that went on back then let's just put it that way
00:13:44.300 which is where bolsonar comes from and that uh because it's it's it's this interesting dynamic
00:13:50.780 where you have judges to your point who are supposed to be the ones that are upholding the law
00:13:57.060 that are actually the ones that are are doing away with the rule of law and they're basically it just
00:14:02.300 comes down to raw naked power so so you experienced this when you went there right who's going to hold
00:14:08.600 them accountable well the question i guess then becomes the people right and that's that's why that's what
00:14:12.960 you're seeing now and the military and we'll get to that uh because the brazilian constitution is
00:14:16.900 very interesting and i've kind of done some deep dives that is part of me so yeah walk us through
00:14:21.020 where you were but i do want to get to this this point about the military's role and it's obviously
00:14:25.140 a sensitive topic but when people need to understand though is that there is a constitutional role for
00:14:30.660 the military in brazil that we do not have reflected in the u.s so please matt continue so you know
00:14:37.100 going back to these judges the sort of out of control judiciary filled with political appointees by the
00:14:42.660 lula dilma temer crowd uh they wholesale have powers they're supposed to be separated powers right
00:14:49.260 you've got an executive branch a legislative branch and a judicial branch and the constitution does carve
00:14:53.820 out the roles in brazilian society but the judicial branch has taken it upon itself it's almost like
00:14:59.520 bismarck's uh famous saying politics is the art of the possible they just do it and they have access
00:15:05.480 to a federal law enforcement like an fbi a police force so they can investigate they can execute
00:15:12.020 obviously subpoena power uh they have access to all the information you know where they can get uh
00:15:16.880 open up people's computers and emails and social media platform uh communications uh they have the
00:15:22.720 ability to prosecute they have the ability to judge they have the ability to sentence i liken it to
00:15:27.620 imagine if in the u.s we had a body that had all the powers that eric holder adam schiff sonia
00:15:35.980 sotomayor uh state ags uh congressional committees all wrapped up into one where they can go after
00:15:42.740 their political enemies open them up expose them arrest them claim there's some sort of criminal
00:15:47.540 investigation and then sentence them and this is what they're doing and they really should not have
00:15:51.940 according to the constitutional uh structure this this all these mixed roles together because it is a
00:15:58.840 it is at odds with keeping uh the guardrails in place in a free society but they've been doing it
00:16:04.620 and bolsonaro has been fighting it but with the entire media complex in brazil in the bag for the
00:16:11.340 lula crowd for the judges even right now with the protest the mainstream media says one of two things
00:16:16.200 either it's not happening or the protesters are thugs who deserve to be punished by the law
00:16:20.880 insurrectionists wherever i heard that one oh no they're already right i read that about myself all 0.93
00:16:25.440 the time from brazilian lefties that oh you know uh bannon and tiermond and uh uh whoever else are
00:16:30.680 just trying to do an insurrection uh you know it's not even about bolsonaro and that's something that
00:16:35.300 bannon has been you know various duties told that to the washington post this is bigger than
00:16:38.800 bolsonaro this is about the brazilian constitution and the people have a right to march and if the judges
00:16:44.160 could they'd be arresting the protesters they're already finding the truckers who've been doing the
00:16:48.600 blockades uh they're uh trying to push through a piece of legislation again they don't even have the
00:16:53.860 right to write legislation but they're doing it and they try to push through if you get caught as a
00:16:59.320 protester and a protest organizer they will take your children away because you're leading them to
00:17:04.440 uh children to an unsafe uh childhood and unsafe environment now if you go to the protests and i'm
00:17:09.520 you know speaking to people on the ground there it's people wrapped in the brazilian flag praying the rosary
00:17:14.780 uh you know chanting in unison they're not violence they're not like antifa or you know marxist type
00:17:20.480 uh thugs who when they protest it always ends with heads uh you know head butting uh it's much more
00:17:25.940 more you know decentralized organized people are coming of their own volition from all over the
00:17:30.440 filling up every city we're seeing these we're seeing these images and and and and we're going
00:17:35.540 to place them here as as you and i are speaking but what what is the you know what is the what is
00:17:41.240 the path here or what are they calling for uh i've seen that the headline that bolsonaro and his party
00:17:47.340 have pushed for a potential annulment of the election but of course that to your point the court that
00:17:53.780 they're petitioning to is the same court that's controlled by this uh by these leftists i don't
00:17:59.680 think that's going to be an avenue that's there's a supreme court led by alexander de moreas and then
00:18:04.800 there's the supreme electoral court which is a subsidiary court which is tasked with administering
00:18:10.280 the election and overseeing it that's also led by alexander de moreas who is put together the this
00:18:16.040 cabal's enemies list and you know he's revoking passports he's uh he put out an interpol red notice on
00:18:21.960 one uh one brazilian journalist alando santos who's in exile in the usa he revoked his passport
00:18:26.620 he put on an interpol red notice which interpol declined to execute because it's frivolous and
00:18:31.600 it's obviously politically partisan uh it is absolutely gross overreach and this also includes
00:18:37.580 the compliance with the military audits non-transparent though you brought up an interesting
00:18:42.040 point valdemor de netto is the head of bolsonaro's party and he petitioned the court uh eight or ten days
00:18:48.020 ago and said we have proof that the machines from the later series uh do not count the votes correctly
00:18:54.740 we have proof of it and he proved it and we want to their push was not to know the whole election
00:18:59.980 but to annul the votes that went through those machines where there was obvious uh malfeasance you
00:19:05.080 know you prove that the machines from a certain technological series uh run of manufacture are fraudulent
00:19:11.480 that have communication external communication capability which is totally at odds with the entire
00:19:16.300 structure they supposedly tried to create and there's no paper ballots there's no auditable ballot
00:19:21.240 trail and that's by design it's a feature not a bug uh and he pushed to annul those votes which is
00:19:26.580 reasonable so what did moreas do he fined the party 22 million reais and put valdemor de netto the head
00:19:32.740 of the party on his fake news investigation uh criminal ensnarement list so now this guy's under and
00:19:37.820 this guy is not like bolsonaro he's not this sort of like populist firebrand he is an old guard
00:19:42.840 politician who's been around for generations leading political parties who's very well respected
00:19:47.080 has never had an allegation of impropriety levied against him and so now he is being uh threatened
00:19:52.460 with criminal investigation and prosecution by this court for doing his job as a party head and saying
00:19:57.160 okay we have proof of some of uh some machine issues uh and so they are doing everything they can
00:20:03.120 to sweep any of these concerns under the rug even to the point of the election certification supposed to
00:20:08.160 be december 19th as of yesterday and we're filming this a few days before this will air so as of uh
00:20:12.960 uh tuesday the 29th as of this week yeah this week they're pushing to move the certification of lula up
00:20:19.600 from uh december 19th to december 12th move it they're trying to rush the whole thing they're trying
00:20:24.320 to rush it because what do the protesters want right let's get let's let's get to that point because
00:20:29.080 what is the path forward so this this is what the courts are trying to do they're trying to rush
00:20:32.980 the whole thing got it the protesters i've seen videos right and i spoke with some some brazilian
00:20:38.040 journalists when i was in mexico i've seen videos of the protesters outside military braces protesting
00:20:44.060 and i said are they protesting the military and and what she explained to me said no no no no no
00:20:48.760 they're not protesting the military they're calling for the military to get involved what is that all
00:20:54.360 about so one of the reasons the locus of protest activity now it's happening in the main city squares
00:21:01.300 all over the country as far you know bahia recife obviously bello horizonte which is the fourth
00:21:06.560 biggest city after you know brazilia rio and sao paulo it's all over the country but it's now the
00:21:11.820 locus has sort of focused on for those hardcore who are there 24 7 now and day 30 or 31 is outside
00:21:18.420 military barracks because the military and the military commandants of these uh these forts these
00:21:23.480 military posts has said things like our job is to protect the brazilian constitution our job is to
00:21:29.600 protect the protesters who are engaging their rights their constitutionally endowed rights to
00:21:34.680 assemble to protest even as moreas is trying to have them arrested and have this thing forcefully
00:21:39.140 dispersed the military is saying no no no we have to uphold the brazilian constitution they've got a
00:21:43.560 constitutional right it's also important bolsonaro is not visible or vocal that is a good thing he should
00:21:49.200 not be this is not about him uh if you know the the election fraud is proven and they annul the
00:21:55.200 fraudulent votes he would be receded but it can't be him leading this charge because then the supreme
00:22:00.500 court will arrest him they're looking to do that already and say that you're trying to run a coup
00:22:04.580 uh at an insurrection the military has to act independently and they've got the tools to do so
00:22:09.200 article 142 of the brazilian constitution says that the brazilian military by virtue of the fact that it
00:22:16.020 is the institution society that is most governed by discipline hierarchy and order and never forget that on the
00:22:21.920 brazilian flag the mantra of the country is ordem y progresso order and progress we need order we need
00:22:27.340 rule of law thus we can progress as a society when the military takes that to heart they have a right
00:22:33.040 and they have sort of the right to in a situation where there's a separation of powers dispute as is
00:22:40.140 existing right now with this out of control judiciary at odds with the executive branch and even the
00:22:44.820 legislative branch at times usurping the legislature's role in pushing laws in the uh in the management
00:22:51.120 and administration of the election it is the military's uh uh sovereign right to come in and
00:22:56.340 adjudicate this and to enforce the constitute constitutional law to clean up the mess because
00:23:02.380 that is something we've talked about in the past we talked about with poland and hungary with post
00:23:05.720 communist judges if you've got a judiciary that is totally out of compliance with rule of law and
00:23:11.200 the constitution who is the one who is going to enforce that in theory it would be the judiciary but if
00:23:16.200 they are a self-dealing conspiratorial cabal as this judiciary is of political appointees who've
00:23:21.420 done everything they can to fix the chessboard by the way there's a law on brazil's books it's a very
00:23:25.880 important law if you are a convicted felon you cannot run for office lula was convicted three courts
00:23:32.280 12 charges 19 judges across these three courts these panels of judges unanimously convicted him to 12
00:23:40.620 years in prison this court the supreme court his appointees his his team's appointees dilman temer
00:23:47.180 let him out of jail they expunged his record annulled and vacated all the judgments and sentencing
00:23:53.480 against him so that he could have a clean record and then run the criminal lula brought out of jail 0.87
00:24:00.120 matt we're going to our next break i said we're going to get to china we will we will as we come up
00:24:05.020 but we need to break down everything that happened in brazil so i want to get into this next and we're
00:24:11.200 going to talk about specifically what the role of the military will be stand by
00:24:14.620 and we're back matt tierman the people of china are experiencing what i call a slave revolt
00:24:24.580 they're fighting back against the power the ccp the same way they did in tiananmen square 1.00
00:24:30.480 the same way they did in 1989 which actually was predicated by the death of a former party leader
00:24:37.320 back then it was hu yaobang today a new party leader has died his name is jiang zemin he was
00:24:44.600 involved in those crackdowns don't get it don't get it uh don't get don't be don't be uh don't
00:24:51.680 whitewash what happened but at the same time all right there is a real possibility that those people
00:24:58.200 those brave people who know the stakes in china shanghai beijing even in the city of wuhan itself
00:25:04.040 where this all started actually have the ability to push back on their regime but but matt what
00:25:09.720 you're telling me down in brazil with the brave patriots of brazil where they are going is not
00:25:15.860 necessarily just into the streets because they're also going to the military barracks and they're
00:25:20.420 calling for the military to get involved break us down now you know when you when i hear you know
00:25:25.180 the brazilian military is getting involved i mean that conjures up all sorts of images about you
00:25:29.680 know military military military america pinochet and helicopters and memes and all that but but but
00:25:36.380 there is actually a constitutional role for the military and i think that a lot of americans
00:25:41.060 are are ignorant of that you're you're you've gone full native in the amazon so tell us tell us what
00:25:48.400 the role constitutionally of the brazilian military is when it comes to elections well keep in mind that and 0.97
00:25:54.220 this is actually a very interesting point that the lula party heads like lula like dilma one of the
00:26:00.000 things they said over the last 10 years when they would give their own you know forums and speeches
00:26:04.520 uh to their people and talk to their sympathetic media is they said their big regret when they did
00:26:09.720 not run government for a dozen years under lula dilma and temer is that they did not defang
00:26:15.340 defenestrate the media i'm sorry the media the military uh the media is their uh their handmaidens
00:26:21.180 someday someday the media the media is you know it's great to get into the media because it's
00:26:26.000 almost like communist state-owned enterprise the mainstream media there under dilma and lula
00:26:29.380 did great they got straight taxpayer money they're totally in the bag which is why they cover the
00:26:34.100 protest this way either memory holding it with the revolution will not be televised or by calling the
00:26:39.000 protesters thugs by the way this is this is what what what what law and justice got right in poland
00:26:44.500 is when they got it when they got in and i remember when you and i were there in warsaw when they got in
00:26:49.060 they replaced the media they said no way and then they got me and you on air they got attacked uh
00:26:55.520 when every party when they would take over state media say you know like the bbc in the uk or the
00:27:00.580 cbc in canada well poland has tbp poland television and it was a you know during the presidential run of
00:27:06.520 duda he didn't even get on air they would just put the incumbent their guy on and then of course peace
00:27:11.460 wins law and justice wins and then they flipped the script and said no we're putting out people in and
00:27:15.720 then washington post rule of laws under attack uh law and justice attacks a free press this is state
00:27:20.860 media this is you know it's government appointees what they should keep their opposition running
00:27:24.760 propaganda against them uh so in brazil you've got a private sector media what's that brilliant move
00:27:30.720 absolutely yeah well in brazil you've got a private sector media that is so hard left in the bag for lula
00:27:35.980 and that people don't talk about how much money they made during lula and dilma's terms and how they're
00:27:40.760 well positioned to do so again should he come in that doesn't get reported on near enough and then
00:27:46.380 the the independent right-wing media like joven pan which would be like a brazilian fox news
00:27:50.620 moreas goes and censors them finds them restricts their ability to communicate in social media de
00:27:56.440 platforms them uh so it's it's quite a all hands on deck from the left using every force they can
00:28:01.900 to censor and obfuscate the truth we talked about blocking out the military audit of the ballot machines
00:28:07.200 and the transparency but the military's got a big role to play as we discussed with article 142 in
00:28:11.700 the constitution and people are begging for it they want it and i think the military does end up acting
00:28:16.880 because they're students of the history general martin morale uh who tweeted a couple fridays ago that
00:28:23.280 the supreme court is eviscerating the constitution i'm paraphrasing when he says something that publicly
00:28:29.400 a highly respected military leader uh that is not a unilateral act that was obviously discussed at the
00:28:34.880 highest realms of the military hierarchy yesterday a we're talking on monday the 29th earlier this week
00:28:41.380 uh there was a open letter sent to the highest ranking general sort of the joint chiefs of staff
00:28:48.120 equivalent by 170 high-ranking officers that would report to the uh to the to the high guard and they
00:28:55.480 said three points one the court has breached its uh its constitutional abilities by far the media is
00:29:01.980 totally in the bag and protesting is absolutely a right of brazilian citizens so now the highest
00:29:06.900 ranking officers are appealing to the equivalent of the joint chiefs the leadership uh of the military
00:29:12.000 to take action and these these military men uh are not you know uh ignorant of history uh one of them
00:29:18.680 tweeted the other day this was the 77th anniversary of 1935 november 25th or 26 19 19 uh 1935
00:29:26.220 where brazilians fought away a communist insurgency they so them suggesting this is pretty big symbology
00:29:33.600 you know and he said we're on guard we will not let communists take over of brazil also important to
00:29:39.000 note bolsonaro was a career military man while lula was a career criminal and was in bed with narco
00:29:44.520 traficantes uh and uh marxist revolutionaries who are the equivalent of our weather underground you know
00:29:50.680 which by the way and by the way let me you know and we had um you know we had we had darren beady on
00:29:56.080 uh a couple of weeks ago and we were talking about the cartels and we talked about the fact
00:30:00.340 that the ccp has their cartels the cia has their cartels uh you've got cartels that are double dealing 0.90
00:30:07.000 you have people out there he had the great line that went hyper viral when he said you know what's
00:30:11.340 the purpose of the dea the purpose of the dea is to go after the cartels that have fallen out of favor
00:30:16.600 with the cia right and so it because you have this massive underworld uh trafficking operation these
00:30:23.400 money laundering operations this dirty money that they're able to use that's never tracked that's
00:30:28.480 off ever this is where by the way you get your your ftx type operations your tether type opera type
00:30:33.720 operations because this is how the overworld leaders that we're seeing now are able to manipulate
00:30:40.100 things that we can see like a lula election or other uprisings in parts of the world that they're
00:30:46.500 trying to control that all of these different pieces on the chessboard are being moved but it
00:30:50.780 is three-dimensional because you have pieces that are above and you have peace you have levels that
00:30:54.400 are above and levels that are below and so one of the big one of the big uh drivers in all of this
00:31:01.580 is that the narco terrorists they don't want to just be in business in mexico they don't just want 0.97
00:31:05.840 to be in business in venezuela and colombia they want to get into brazil that's what this is about in a
00:31:10.080 huge way yeah well it's also about you know we talked about uh china china is very interested in
00:31:15.840 obviously having their bulwarks uh geopolitically all over the world so they can continue their
00:31:20.140 you know their leadership in marxist expansion and uh imperial hegemony and brazil is incredibly
00:31:26.180 one belt one road this is exactly what this is the one belt run road system they want to drive that
00:31:30.240 straight through south america straight through latin america right up to our border where they're
00:31:33.980 already flooding fentanyl across and we had the border battle special all about this we said people kept
00:31:38.580 pointing back they said this is china right china's china is in all this china by the way he's also
00:31:43.220 underwriting the war in ukraine right now with russia of course we understand they're russia's
00:31:47.240 only real lasting trade partner they kind of in many ways they have a massive leverage over russia now
00:31:53.100 and so you know all roads lead back to beijing and that's why when you're seeing the slave revolt
00:31:59.340 in the heart of the empire all the way across the empire in in china that is why this is so massive
00:32:06.680 because the money of the chinese party the chinese communist party has been generating throughout their
00:32:11.480 dirty deal with the west that goes back to scrowcroft and and george hw bush in the 1980s
00:32:17.640 whom we could have pushed the ccp over with a feather right they decided to construct this system 1.00
00:32:22.300 of globalism well the chinese are responding with their own version of it called one belt one road 0.90
00:32:27.780 and that's their attempt to essentially rest the reins from the west from the party of davos and they're
00:32:34.020 and they're using places like brazil brazil is one of the battlefronts of this and so the money
00:32:38.900 that should have been going into at least you'd think at least for the conditions of the people
00:32:42.780 that are living in china right which have increased and i'm not going to say they haven't but you know
00:32:46.840 certainly for the times of chairman mao when everybody's starving and dying and and eating
00:32:50.360 their own children in some in some areas well now you've got now you've got money that's being spent
00:32:55.960 all around the world this is the revolt because there's they're putting money to back these people
00:33:00.480 like lula to back these these narco terrorists narco cartels now the people of china say where's our
00:33:06.060 peace why are our living conditions becoming so fraught and destroyed why have you not done well
00:33:11.460 for us you get people burning alive in the xinjiang massacre right the xinjiang massacre of the of the
00:33:16.920 apartment building there with the videos heart-wrenching videos of people burning alive women children
00:33:21.240 uh the uyghurs that are inside this building as well we don't even know the full the full scope of who 0.97
00:33:26.060 died there brazil is a battlefront in all of in all of these geopolitical forces and matt i i commend you
00:33:33.020 for your work by the way putting this all together if brazil falls if lula is seated then china will
00:33:39.440 basically have total control over south america the resources the population the geopolitical uh
00:33:46.900 placement of south america to our south that'll you know that is their entry point of control of this
00:33:54.820 side of the world of this hemisphere you know better than anyone they're playing a long game
00:33:58.840 and the working with the marxists of uh of the south america the sao paulo forum the chavez's and
00:34:05.260 maduro's and morales's uh brazil was the last hold down steve bannon and i you know we do his show all the
00:34:11.000 time you know talks about the evangelical movement the catholics and the christian evangelicals the brazil
00:34:16.520 still has a very large and growing population of evangelical fervor and these are people who believe
00:34:23.340 in god and rule of law on earth and this is obviously the enemy of global communism mal was
00:34:30.040 the one who said i think it was mal right he said religion is the opiate of the masses it's why they
00:34:34.400 poland uh that was marx okay uh well mal certainly you know banning religion and uh and and really
00:34:41.580 making it your religion in communism is the state it always is and that's why poland was such an 0.85
00:34:46.700 interesting holdout because after so many generations of imperialism the repository of social
00:34:50.960 and structural values of society was in the church so it was much harder for poles uh to be uh beaten
00:34:57.500 down the way some others behind the iron curtain were by the soviet encroachment in their society 0.85
00:35:02.100 when they became totally uh in hock to the far-off mandarins of moscow uh but this is the same thing
00:35:07.960 in brazil brazil is this bulwark and that's why you're seeing this protest movement and people stand
00:35:12.420 with boston arrow i have no doubt that he won and let's go back to this sort of electoral mechanics
00:35:17.040 you go back uh 10 years or so when boston arrow was a congressman uh in the lower house the chamber
00:35:23.200 of deputies it's sort of like our house of representatives the way there's an upper house
00:35:26.520 and lower house legislation starts in the lower house he pushed a bill for auditable paper ballots
00:35:32.820 paper ballots that are alongside the machines so you have a paper ballot printout that can then be
00:35:38.720 audited later on and this legislation he spearheaded uh was taken up in congress and it passed
00:35:44.500 dilma was president at the time she vetoed it citing and this is just so hilarious almost and
00:35:50.020 it's sort of farce uh she cited well printers are expensive we don't want to have to pay for
00:35:54.640 printers in every polling site when has a socialist ever cited uh you know fiscal fiscal expenditure
00:36:00.820 as a barrier to pushing anything found fiscal conservatives coming up on our last break real
00:36:07.820 real quick to hold that thought because i want to bring i want to get into this i want to get into
00:36:12.840 what happens i want to get into what happens should brazil fall come right back yes
00:36:18.780 ladies and gentlemen we're back here with matt tierman we're discussing
00:36:25.100 the grave consequences of what should happen if brazil falls to communism if brazil falls under the
00:36:33.040 influence of the chinese communist party because that is what's at stake here our own our own backyard
00:36:39.660 our own hemisphere and let me just say that we had the ability we the way it should work by the way
00:36:45.340 is that the united states the free people of the united states the patriots of america should be
00:36:50.280 working in concert with the patriots of mexico the patriots of brazil to create a robust economic
00:36:57.280 and strategic partnership in our in our hemisphere i'm not talking about a you know an american union or
00:37:04.240 anything like this no no no i'm talking about free people and free countries working together
00:37:09.660 from the point of mutual benefit so that we can we can sell to them so that we have manufacturing in
00:37:16.500 our areas and so that we have strategic diplomatic and national security that's what we need and the
00:37:22.680 ccp and the russians and iran whoever else is trying to get into our hemisphere i'm full monroe 0.91
00:37:27.100 doctrine on that call me a neocon if you want but i'm but if you're trying to get into our backyard i say
00:37:31.480 no mas matt walk us through again these stakes okay so you know it's i want to close the loop on
00:37:38.380 this uh this uh congressional uh legislation that boston narrow uh took up he pushed for a bill it
00:37:44.740 was passed by congress to create paper balloting alongside the machine so that you'd have an audit
00:37:49.220 trail so you could do an audit should there be allegations of impropriety common sense right
00:37:53.900 election integrity who's not for election integrity well we know who's not for election integrity those who
00:37:57.760 are looking to steal elections uh dilma vetoed uh this bill it got sent back to the congress to the
00:38:05.320 lower house and they overrode the veto that is very rare to happen in brazilian congressional politics
00:38:12.700 uh for a bill to have a veto override that way because you have to get a super majority and the
00:38:18.420 congress there this is not you know a two-party system like we have in the u.s republicans and dems
00:38:22.900 this is very it's more almost parliamentary there's many parties they coalition it's fractured
00:38:28.220 but they overrode dilma's veto and then the supreme court struck it down under get this privacy concerns
00:38:36.580 any fig leaf which they could use to get rid of something that would allow an auditable ballot trail
00:38:42.920 and when jason and i and when we were in brazil and we went to some of these protests that were going
00:38:47.240 on then people were protesting uh about exactly this there were chants in brazilia on that sunday ahead
00:38:53.300 of the freedom march their independence day give us paper ballots give us auditable ballots and the
00:38:58.280 supreme court even suggesting that the election might not be clean by even saying we want paper ballots
00:39:04.540 they would sanction those journalists those activists and those politicians who would push for
00:39:09.600 something as common sense to election integrity as a paper ballot backup an auditable ballot trail so you
00:39:15.740 know that that's that's the league we know what they are what they want when people like i said
00:39:21.620 earlier when people tell you who they are believe them when lula da silva's transition head monica
00:39:26.420 valenti who was running the sao palo forum in brazil says we need to protect brazilian democracy like we
00:39:32.560 have to protect maduro's democracy in venezuela to these people maduro in venezuela is running a democracy
00:39:39.160 this is what this is the stakes they will turn brazil within 12 to 24 months should lula be seated
00:39:45.580 into venezuela it will the bulwark of democracy in the largest country in latin america will be gone
00:39:52.160 and losing it i don't know how hard it would be what feasibility there would be to go back to a
00:39:59.480 democratic system for a country that produces one-sixth of the world's food the basic inputs of
00:40:06.560 wheat and corn and barley uh the heavy the heavy uh heavy natural resources the uh the industrial
00:40:12.460 components oil gas tin cobalt copper brazil is a heavyweight player it's why china wants it under
00:40:20.720 their dominion if lula gets seated brazil is a chinese vassal and that should frighten everybody 1.00
00:40:27.420 in this hemisphere especially in the northern hemisphere where we supposedly have free nations
00:40:31.640 of like u.s and canada well let's let's talk about that because you know as as you and i said here in
00:40:37.140 the united states we're dealing with all of these these geopolitical issues uh we don't have the
00:40:42.480 government that we wish we did right we don't even have a serious government we don't even have a
00:40:46.940 president who knows what time of day it is but but what should right let's let's walk through what
00:40:53.280 should the american response to this be and rather than getting into you know which candidate or this
00:40:59.100 candidate yeah it's not important but let's get into let's get into the idea of what policy should we be
00:41:05.900 focused on that both both benefits by the way our geostrategic interests but also the interests and
00:41:13.620 and keep in mind you know america first movement here all right that benefits the people that live
00:41:18.260 within the united states why should americans care why should america you know what was it you made a
00:41:22.700 good point you made a good point when and this is something i always say you know it's very adam
00:41:26.040 smithian uh nations that trade together nations that bring their comparative advantages to the table
00:41:31.140 whether it's industrial output manufacturing versus agricultural output those nations that it that
00:41:36.180 unilaterally pursue their best interest you know not multilateralism not the eu with france and germany
00:41:41.940 dictating to 28 other member nations exactly what their policy should be whether it's on borders
00:41:46.120 immigration economics trade and ag policy whatever uh but unilaterally best interest policy of a
00:41:52.860 nation state it always leads to let's trade with our neighbors with our distant neighbors because nations
00:41:59.680 that trade together don't go to war nations that trade together that get the best of each other's
00:42:04.300 economies and peoples and transfer knowledge culture and trade there's a pax there was what you call
00:42:11.140 in the pax americana in the 20th century there is a stabilization it's a stabilizing force and brazil
00:42:17.200 given the strength of its economy and its natural resource wealth do we want to trade with them or do we
00:42:22.560 want china to control their oil and gas their uh their rare earth minerals like they're doing in africa 1.00
00:42:28.320 that is antithetical to our best interests to the american interest forget globalist interest just the
00:42:34.420 american interest the issue we have is that we've got a state department an executive branch that
00:42:40.500 executive branch joe biden moments after the final tabulation drop that looked absolutely fishy
00:42:46.300 beyond compare when bolsonaro both in the first round and the second round was way up early and then
00:42:50.880 every ballot drop therein as if a switch was flipped went 60 40 or 55 45 one way until they both
00:42:57.220 overlapped and lula took the lead at 66 percent of precinct reporting two-thirds uh biden moments after
00:43:04.360 the last ballot drop said uh tweeted uh congrats to lula da silva on your fair your win in this fair
00:43:10.140 free incredible election he thinks the lady don't protest too much how does he know it's fair free
00:43:14.280 incredible one minute after the last ballot drop one minute so the fix was in we've got a globalist
00:43:19.800 uh uh political class that is in the in the in the seat of power now in washington uh the eu is the 0.99
00:43:26.860 same way highly globalist the globalists are the useful idiots of the communists they're the useful 1.00
00:43:31.620 idiots of the soviets and they're useful idiots of the chinese now whether it's the world economic 1.00
00:43:35.640 forum or the un or the eu in brussels or washington so instead of looking out for our best interest what 1.00
00:43:43.000 we have is last year william burns the cia chief was sent down to uh finger wag at boston arrow do
00:43:48.800 not create any election issues as if to say you know don't say anything when your election is stolen
00:43:53.640 from you uh and then uh after the election they said they were going to after the election second
00:43:58.280 round october 30th they said they were going to send jake sullivan down uh and that got some press
00:44:02.580 tucker and i talked about it so they kiboshed that and now it looks like as they're trying to push
00:44:06.620 the certification up a week ahead of potential military engagement over this issue uh now they're
00:44:12.140 going to send jake sullivan down again to help with the transition i don't know what compelling
00:44:16.060 interest there is for the american government to help with the lula to silver or any transition
00:44:19.920 well i'm old enough to remember you know when bernie sanders and the the left was railing against
00:44:24.560 the cia's engagement in latin american elections in the 1970s so you know where is the uh where where
00:44:31.740 where are the dogs barking here like this this doesn't make any compelling sense unless you know
00:44:36.800 what their real interest is which is globalists tying together with china uh working together in
00:44:42.620 breaking down sovereign borders well matt let me ask you this then you know and and you you made you
00:44:47.620 made a bold prediction on on uh on war room pandemic and steve bannon's war room about the military in
00:44:54.420 brazil do you believe that the military will get involved i do based on the signals that some of
00:45:01.600 these generals have sent based on the 170 the last time there was an open letter written to military
00:45:06.960 high command from the from the officers was 1954 when there was also uh the destabilized brazil and
00:45:13.900 the military came in uh the military if they do not act they do are students of latin american
00:45:19.900 communism of global communism of the chinese sovereignty sale of lula and dilma it was also
00:45:25.120 them that helped expose lula and dilma in 2012 led to street protests and convictions if they don't
00:45:31.040 get involved it's venezuela 2000 when chavez goes gotten uh took control what happened to the military
00:45:37.200 that tried to defend venezuela they end up gulagged so if they don't defend the sovereignty of brazil
00:45:42.920 against this illegal election this uh out of out of uh control supreme court that's eviscerating the
00:45:48.900 constitution they will be signing their own death warrant they will be the first ones going to the gulag
00:45:53.520 so i think that compelling self-interest is such that they will be forced to act no because they know
00:45:59.840 it's just a matter of time before they're next let's let's put it this way folks communist takeovers 0.98
00:46:05.220 all follow the exact same playbook first you get your guys in power and then you start cleaning house
00:46:12.220 and that's exactly by the way what xi jinping did when it came to these rivals when it came to everybody
00:46:17.540 else that was going against him and there were a lot of a lot of these you know uh china experts out
00:46:22.140 there that uh i disagreed with and i took stances against and i said you know they said she's about to
00:46:27.140 fall and she won't be named chairman i said he is systematically going through and picking off his
00:46:32.040 rivals one by one he's putting them on television he's going he's locking them all up uh he's replacing
00:46:38.240 the judiciary which is exactly what you're talking about happened here in brazil and he's setting
00:46:42.040 himself up to be chairman for life and if you don't see that then you haven't been paying attention
00:46:45.900 and you're just wish casting and that's not what we do here and so it's amazing to see the people rise up
00:46:51.020 and and i'm going to put and i'm not going to discount that because what we're seeing here
00:46:55.300 is people in china the slave revolt of china we're seeing the patriots of brazil we are seeing this
00:47:03.180 force for national sovereignty true national sovereignty take place across the entire world
00:47:10.980 last minute matt tierman well as i said in my cdm.press piece really doing a deep dive into the
00:47:16.900 brazilian judiciary and their illegal actions against journalists and politicos uh the brazilian
00:47:22.560 people do not want their grandchildren to be speaking mandarin they know the stakes they will
00:47:26.880 not be leaving the streets the fact that lula was a convicted criminal they are chanting we will not be
00:47:31.740 led by a criminal they know what the court did letting him out expunging his record totally illegal
00:47:37.660 and at odds with the constitution and the constitution says if something like this happens it's the
00:47:41.960 military's role to restore order that is the disciplined hierarchical based social institution
00:47:47.880 whose job it is and i certainly hope they act matt tierman where can people go to follow you where
00:47:53.600 can people get your coordinates uh well at matthew terramont m-a-t-t-h-e-w-t-y-r-m-a-n-d
00:47:59.500 getter twitter social media frequently on with you and steve on war room occasionally uh nowadays can
00:48:05.800 talk to uh tucker about brazil it's great that he's uh shown interest in this he did a great for more
00:48:10.580 background by the way i urge uh your viewers and listeners to go and see his fox nation documentary
00:48:16.220 about brazil taped in the summer june july aired in august uh and it talks very very deeply about
00:48:22.280 china's engagement in brazil the last 15 years incredible matt tierman thank you so much for
00:48:26.660 joining us ladies and gentlemen once again as always you have my permission to lay a short