00:01:51.780They're backed by the U.S. and often clash with the Turkish-backed SNA.
00:01:56.260They guard the prisons in the Northeast that have ISIS fighters in them.
00:02:01.400So they're a really critical component to stability as well.
00:02:05.720And then there's the Hayyit Tahrir al-Sham, or HTS.
00:02:09.440This is who ultimately led the offensive to capture Damascus.
00:02:13.440They were originally established as an al-Qaeda affiliate, led by a man who later led ISIS.
00:02:19.220They broke ties with al-Qaeda in 2016, but are still considered a terrorist organization by the U.S., Turkey, and others.
00:02:27.240It was in firm control of Idlib, a city, and much of the province beforehand, and had ruled that area with an iron fist.
00:02:35.380In late November, HTS advanced from Idlib to Aleppo, which they seized in just a few days, with not just military and violence, but governance.
00:02:44.160After the fall of a brutal dictatorship in Syria, U.S. leaders say they will recognize
00:02:48.880and fully support a new Syrian government if it's credible, inclusive, and non-sectarian.
00:02:55.220Now, the come has come after rebel forces overthrew dictator Bashar al-Assad this weekend.
00:02:59.820His regime had been in power for 50 years.
00:03:02.880He's been an ally to Russia and Iran and is accused of chemical attacks on his own people.
00:03:07.540The Defense Intelligence Agency in August 2012 said, and I quote,
00:03:10.440there is a possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared salafist principality
00:03:14.840in eastern syria and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want
00:03:19.400in order to isolate the syrian regime the u.s saw the isil caliphate coming and did nothing
00:03:24.520all right folks welcome back today got another episode of our series
00:03:30.680regime change tales of regime change syria arab spring dirty war
00:03:40.440we look at syria this is an interesting case because the regime change happened just a few
00:03:45.640months ago and we're waiting to see what takes place since this is a case where a dictator was
00:03:53.800overthrown massive civil war took place millions of people were displaced in the wake of this
00:06:58.520Nothing will stand in our way, and our golden age has just begun.
00:07:03.340This is Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:07:05.120Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
00:07:09.780Welcome to the second American Revolution.
00:07:14.200All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back here. This is Tales of Regime Change, Syria, the Arab Spring,0.81
00:07:24.600and Assad. And this is the main thing that people have to understand about the Syrian Civil War,
00:07:31.860that the Syrian Civil War was never a Syrian Civil War. The Syrian Civil War was a neoliberal
00:07:37.620intervention into Syria, backed by Barack Obama, his government, John Brennan, his CIA,
00:07:45.120the largest and most expensive CIA operation in history, over a billion dollars was spent
00:07:52.380by the U.S. government. And there's no Charlie Wilson's war movie about this. Hollywood won't
00:07:57.240talk about it. So you know about Operation Cyclone that we talked about in the Afghanistan episode.
00:08:01.940But have you ever heard of Operation Timber Sycamore? Well, Operation Timber Sycamore,
00:08:06.640boys and girls is when the quote-unquote moderate jihadis, remember the moderate jihadis that we
00:08:13.880were told about by John McCain and so many people, Lindsey Graham, who were backing this back at the
00:08:19.920time, they said, oh, we'll work with the moderate rebels, the moderate rebels against Assad, and
00:08:26.940we'll back them to take down his murderous, butcherous regime, the same way they talked
00:08:32.820about it with Saddam Hussein. Now, keep in mind, at this point, the Iraq war is still going when0.88
00:08:37.900this gets launched in 2011, as is Afghanistan. So they think these wonderful geniuses in Washington,
00:08:43.680D.C. think that it's so smart, all these wars they're doing in the Middle East, that they're
00:08:48.340just going to go for another one. They're going to launch one in Damascus. So you get Barack Obama,
00:08:56.120you get Brennan, you get Hillary Clinton, of course, and they start funding all of these
00:09:01.840quote unquote, moderate rebel networks, which I'm sorry, it's just not a thing. And who do they
00:09:07.360work with? They work the Jordanians and they work with the Saudis yet again, to fund these forces0.97
00:09:13.360and those become the rebels. So these are US backed proxies, a proxy war that is a dirty war0.70
00:09:21.260that is unleashed against Syria. And it spills over very quickly because some of those quote
00:09:27.920unquote, moderate rebels, don't seem to be so moderate at all. They become a little group you
00:09:32.120may have heard of called the Islamic State. They become ISIS. Joshua Lysak, I mentioned as well,
00:09:39.260you know, some of the countries that were supportive of this, but it has to be said,
00:09:44.720there's one other country that goes back to the clean break memo that supported the overthrow of
00:09:51.700Assad. Joshua, tell us about that. Yes, thank you for having me on, Jack. What we discussed the
00:09:57.360other day on Iraq, is that the Clean Break memo was a memo that was prepared for the Israeli
00:10:05.700Prime Minister, Bibi Netanyahu. Oh, does that sound interesting? Late 1990s, the idea was,
00:10:12.220in order for Israel to have long-term national sovereignty and security in the Middle Eastern
00:10:18.320region, its various strongmen opponents in the Middle East, within Islamic countries,
00:10:24.800all had to fall. And of course, Iraq was on the list. Lebanon was on the list. Iran on the list.0.81
00:10:34.620Syria on the list. We identified how the anti-Saddam Hussein sentiment was a strange
00:10:41.660coalition of evangelical Christians, neoliberals who believed in creating an open and prosperous
00:10:47.400a society where there's universal suffrage and women's rights. And as we saw with the USAID
00:10:54.960fiasco, various LGBTQIA plus programs are getting funded in 99.99% Islamic countries. What we have0.97
00:11:04.100here is a fail to understand the locals, cultures, and customs. Same thing here in the Syria situation.
00:11:11.660And what I urged in the Iraq episode is the Christians in the audience to consider the consequences of regime change on the Christians.
00:11:22.280Syrian Christians have had a very bad time following the Syrian civil war, which, as you said, is sort of a pseudo-civil war.
00:11:31.900and it's more so a manufactured regime change situation that follows the same pattern of
00:11:39.120regime change that we have witnessed in Afghanistan. We witnessed it in Iraq. If we go to other
00:11:45.580countries, ironically, the British colonies, 1760s, 70s, and 80s, following a similar regime change,
00:11:53.080but that's for another day. Coming back to this situation, remember that the stage one
00:11:58.140of regime change is the demonization, the moral authority. We have to go in there and take him
00:12:06.240out. And that, of course, is all of these videos of United Nations inspectors and aid workers who
00:12:13.520are being attacked by Assad forces. And I remember listening to NPR and reading the New York Times
00:12:19.940at the time, and seeing the case being made by satellites and affiliates of the Obama
00:12:28.080administration, that this was the most just war of the modern age.
00:12:33.420And that was the stage one, the we got to go in there and do something.
00:12:37.800Preparation, operational preparation of the environment.
00:12:41.160If anyone who's read the Unhumans Hypothesis book is in the audience, you'll recall how
00:12:46.360before a revolution is unleashed, they got to get things ready on the ground. They got to identify
00:12:51.340who are the friendlies, who are the enemies. And the great irony of American intervention
00:12:57.300is that American forces and proxies consistently align with those who slaughter Christian0.53
00:13:05.420civilians every single time in one of these situations. We talked in the Afghanistan episode
00:13:11.760how American allies, quote-unquote, against the Taliban, were these pedophile warlords.
00:13:18.980And American soldiers were prohibited from intervening and saving the children,
00:13:24.640saving these young boys from being victimized by these monstrosities.0.95
00:13:28.840In any case, we, of course, saw the intervention, Act II intervention in Syria with, again,
00:13:35.360both the proxies and the supporting, though it was on the ground.
00:13:38.340I remember hearing stories how there were these insurgents allied with the United States who were receiving resources, weaponry, intelligence, and they would later go on to become ISIS, or as the Obama administration, President Barack Obama himself would always say, ISIL for some reason, which sort of is the NPR American version of it, I suppose.
00:14:03.520And then again, the aftermath and consolidation, stage three of regime change, did not go as planned.
00:14:10.520Well, actually, wait, wait, Joshua. Joshua, hold on a second.
00:14:13.140The use of the word ISIL as opposed to ISIS, which everyone in media and everyone in regular, you know, the regular world was saying, was actually a form of linguistic dominance.
00:14:28.240Why is it that the neoliberal regime forces these tricks on us like neolinguistic dominance?
00:14:34.760Why do they force us to use their words like that?
00:14:38.740Because if you use their words, they are in control of your reality.
00:14:43.660And the most effective, we'll say, mainstream manipulator.
00:14:48.440It's also a sign of loyalty too, right?0.99
00:14:50.580That we will make you say something that sounds stupid to prove that you're loyal.0.99
00:14:57.000And we see this across left-wing cultural movements, both abroad and domestically, of course.
00:15:04.340For example, we noticed how the individuals who are transvestites, that was changed to be transgender to make it a thing, for example.
00:15:16.180Now, what's interesting is we're seeing some reversion, we're seeing some rollback of some of that language.0.80
00:15:21.880You might recall how a couple of days ago, as of this publication, a couple of days ago, there was this Department of Homeland Security post from the official X account referring to illegal immigrants who were sodomites.0.67
00:15:46.780That is also a cue that we are not using politically correct language anymore.
00:15:51.940We are rolling it back, and they are all going back.
00:15:56.620The use of ISIL was a way of saying, I am more intelligent and more informed than you,
00:16:01.840because it's not simply the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
00:16:05.800It is the Islamic State of Iraq, and the Levant, which is a sort of NPR listener cue,
00:16:12.860those who are familiar with that communication, it's a way of saying, I am more enlightened and
00:16:20.100educated than you, because I understand that the whole region is called the Levant, right?
00:16:27.040Levantine. It's a way of showing you in just one word, I know more than you, therefore I am in
00:16:34.700charge. That's the linguistic dominance. And despite the catastrophe that was unleashed by
00:16:40.960the botching of stage, not just two, but stage three in Syria of a regime change, and that's
00:16:46.660where you try to install your guides, stabilize things. Well, look how that's turned out in Syria.
00:16:52.080Literally the day the Assad situation turned for the worst from his perspective, what did we see
00:16:59.660posted all over X? We saw the live leak equivalent of massacres of Christians, men, senior citizens,
00:17:08.620women and of course children in mass by quote-unquote our guys we were supposed to hate
00:17:16.880this Assad man because he was like serious Putin was a regular reference that I heard used during
00:17:24.900the time period oh wait unintended consequences Jack where have we seen that before but only
00:17:30.780everywhere. Well, and not only that, what do we receive in response to this? The Syrian civil war
00:17:39.840was used to create and manufacture the migrant crisis across Europe and many parts of the US0.93
00:17:48.360as well. It was used to manufacture the migrants, many of whom didn't even come from Syria. They0.96
00:17:55.020came from North Africa. They came from Turkey. They came from places that did not have a
00:17:59.800a civil war at all and yet millions upon millions of these people were told by angela merkel and
00:18:07.880so many other members of the eu that they had to come to europe france they were coming from right
00:18:12.840across right across in algeria nothing to do with the syrian civil war so why did the eu do this
00:18:22.360quite the interesting question we'll get to that in the next second
00:18:33.640today you know that you talk about influences these are influences and uh they're friends of
00:18:39.160mine jack or something where's jack he's done a great job all right jack so we're back here with
00:18:47.320Joshua Lysak. Now, Joshua, I want to be clear about something that when we talk about the
00:18:52.940zookeeper theory, when I talk about that, that's, that's, that's the zookeeper theory that I,
00:18:56.760I ascribe to that when you have these zookeepers, we're not saying that they are good people from
00:19:03.440some sort of like abstract moral, um, you know, moral standard. What we're saying is that they
00:19:10.940are better relative to the alternative of what would be in place. And so we saw the Syrian civil
00:19:20.680war, one of the dirtiest wars, one of the bloodiest wars the Middle East has ever seen. Entire
00:19:26.160villages wiped out, people killed en masse, reprisals, family reprisals. And you could,
00:19:33.840anyway, people can go watch the mass graves. You can go on Telegram right now and look at the mass
00:19:37.440graves so joshua i guess my my point is is that we sit there and we i actually let me put it this
00:19:44.180way we sit there and we say we're taking out a bad guy quote unquote and yet we will unleash
00:19:51.240some of the most horrific atrocities and violence all in the name of being on the right side
00:19:59.780of history it's really amazing isn't it yes we talked in the afghanistan episode how
00:20:05.900So history is written by the ghostwriters of the side that wins, and so they are able to tell the story that is going to be best consumed by the populace and received the best.
00:20:21.640I remember 2015, but real quick backing up, it was in 2014, there was not a direct invasion by the United States into Syria, but there was arms provided, there was training, intelligence, airstrikes that supported the anti-Assad rebels, like the so-called Free Syrian Army.
00:20:39.340There were some Kurdish forces there as well, and then there was also involvement from Turkey, Saudi Arabia, allegedly Israel, and then, of course, Russia having an allyship there with Bashar al-Assad, a truly proxy war between these various regional powers jockeying for position.
00:21:00.820We want our people who are friendly to us to be in charge there.
00:21:04.800The great migrant crisis occurred beginning in 2015 after a few subsequent months of this.
00:21:10.860And what we were regularly seeing and hearing on the pages of the New York Times on NPR would be these individuals who had been born and raised in Syria and had become educated in the United States.
00:21:24.080They had family back over there, and they would share their, let's say, N equal one
00:21:30.480sub-stories of how this beautiful home of ours, that it was part of a compound that
00:21:36.600our great-great-great-great-grandfather built all these many years ago, it was wiped out
00:22:40.960And, of course, we all saw the truly tragic, I will say, the drowned boy on the beach.0.96
00:22:49.900That photo went around the world and became used by the likes of Angela Merkel in Germany and others to open wide the floodgates of immigration being allowed into Europe and also to the United States.
00:23:02.580and i'll and i'll throw in on that picture by the way for folks who don't know and this is how all
00:23:08.340pictures are uh peter duke has this great line that all pictures are all photograph every photograph
00:23:14.520is a lie every photograph is a lie because it later came out that that child's father was in
00:23:21.560fact a human trafficker and was involved in those human trafficking operations so again this didn't
00:23:29.460have anything to do with people fleeing from, again, you said Turkey, there's not people fleeing
00:23:35.840from warfare. There's no civil war in Turkey. In Turkey, they are safe. In Turkey, there was no
00:23:42.320Syrian civil war because you're not in Syria anymore. In fact, it was a child who was being
00:23:47.900caught up in human trafficking operations, child trafficking operations, horrific things that are
00:23:52.980going on. And look, I'm just going to say, you know, I wish and I had a hope for NATO at one
00:23:59.460point that following the demise of the Soviet Union, that NATO would be able to be moved from
00:24:06.360this anti-Russia organization to an organization that would focus on things like this, that would
00:24:11.640focus on drug trafficking, child trafficking, going after sleeper cells and these terrorist
00:24:18.220groups as they're small. You would think that that would have been, you know, across Europe,
00:24:21.860by the way, you know, across Europe and in our lands. And you would think that that would be
00:24:25.860the state, like the actual places where NATO has membership, you know, like, like, like the US and
00:24:32.080NATO, like those are the NATO countries. So you would you would work and sort of reform it as a,
00:24:37.400you know, quasi military, but policing operation to go against these counter national threats.
00:24:43.400And of course, with the Mediterranean, you may have to cross the Black Sea, you may have to cross
00:24:46.720from time to time. But it's always in furtherance of smashing one of these organizations. And yet,
00:24:51.860what we saw NATO do then is actually, I would say, enhance and expand those types of operations
00:25:02.160and conduct proxy wars and dirty wars in places like Syria that aided child traffickers and human
00:25:10.720traffickers and instead let innocent people to die. And this is where it gets really dark, folks.
00:25:18.120This is where it gets really dark because, as we always say, Joshua, the point of a system is what it does.
00:25:28.780The book that Data Republic and I have recently finished the manuscript for, released in 2026, we trace the—it's called the Administrative NGO Complex.
00:25:39.120It's an unelected, bureaucratic, worldwide network, unofficially.
00:25:44.600But you'll notice that the same people keep propping up from one think tank to another.
00:25:50.320For example, there are individuals who went from working in the Bush administration to the Obama administration
00:25:55.160to working for organizations like the World Economic Fund, World Bank, NATO even.
00:26:02.200And this is a sort of alliance of self-appointed decision makers
00:26:06.140who believe themselves to be on the right side of history and are in a position to call the shots.
00:26:12.360And in the case of Syria, as it was with Iraq and Afghanistan, well, our nation-building regime change efforts didn't exactly work.0.87
00:26:19.880You know, fight them over there so we don't fight them over here was the expression.0.95
00:26:23.560So the alternative then is to let's import their citizenry from over there to over here.0.98
00:26:33.280The road to hell is often paved with good intentions.0.95
00:26:37.140There's not one but two wars that are being waged in Syria.0.54
00:26:43.600First is a war to defeat ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other jihadist groups, this is a war against
00:26:49.240terrorists who have declared war on America and it's a war that we must win.
00:26:54.020The second is the counterproductive war to overthrow the government of Assad, an illegal
00:26:58.900war that Congress has not authorized and which must end.
00:27:03.600This war to overthrow the Syrian government has strengthened rather than weakened our
00:28:22.620We've seen this migrant crisis, and Syria was really used, this proxy war, as used as the impetus for it, where so much of the rape of our daughters, the rape of European women, the killing of European children, in many cases, the mass rapes, things that we saw in Rotherham and others, were perpetuated by this mass importation of Middle Easterners across the continent.0.79
00:28:47.700We're seeing it now happen in the United States as well.0.53
00:28:52.180And part of me has to say, do you think that any of this was intentional, that they actually
00:28:58.800wanted to open the United, Dearborn, Michigan comes to mind, places like Minneapolis, Somalia
00:29:59.020It all comes down to our paychecks being smaller, our taxes being higher, in order to import0.99
00:30:05.720the third world so that we become the third world.0.99
00:30:08.620The idea behind that, the justification from the neoliberal unelected elite is, again, there are these strong men over there who have these closed societies.
00:32:47.740But to get back to your question, Jack, yes, it all is intentional.
00:32:51.840And the unelected elite who are deciding these things, it's not some vast global conspiracy.
00:32:59.380It's simply people who inhabit the deep state, which is, frankly, publicly available knowledge.
00:33:06.780These think tanks associated with the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, with religious organizations like Catholic Charities, with the World Bank, with WEF, the sort of United Nations networks that we've seen, this is publicly available, but it's not quite accessible to the citizenry.
00:33:28.040We don't quite have it all figured out, and that's what Data Republican is for.
00:33:31.700So we're excited about releasing that book in 2026 to expose it all.
00:33:36.460Coming back to it, yes, it was intentional.
00:33:39.180And if you look at why they did it, they did it because they believed naively that they were doing the right thing.
00:33:45.600An open society that we can control to make them be democratic and free and feminist and gay friendly.