Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 06, 2025


The American Populist Fight for Deportation Hangs in the Balance


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41 minutes

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158.82774

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6,648

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438

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

What happens when the Fourth Turning meets 5th Generation Warfare? A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, Jack Posoe joins host Jack to discuss all things current events in the world, including: Russia strikes Ukraine, a man accused of burning a peaceful protest in Boulder, Colorado, a big, ugly breakup over President Trump's big, beautiful bill between Trump and Elon Musk, a federal judge blocks a temporary ban on foreign students attending Harvard, and much, much more.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:39.480 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:46.080 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
00:00:49.900 We're seeing Russia has launched a wide scale attack on Ukraine.
00:00:53.340 At least four people are dead.
00:00:54.940 That number is expected to rise.
00:00:56.420 It's in response to Ukraine's drone attack deep inside Russia, which experts say was a game changer in terms of modern warfare.
00:01:03.680 A U.S. Army official warns the American military is not doing enough to keep up with the kind of drone warfare now on display.
00:01:11.620 President Donald Trump's administration on Thursday imposed sanctions on four judges at the International Criminal Court.
00:01:17.460 It's an unprecedented retaliation over the war tribunal's issuance of an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
00:01:24.980 and a past decision to open a case into alleged war crimes by U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
00:01:30.300 A federal judge in Boston has granted a temporary block on President Trump's move to ban foreign students from traveling to the U.S. to attend Harvard.
00:01:39.720 A man accused of firebombing a peaceful rally in Boulder, Colorado, Mohammed Solomon, will appear in federal court today.
00:01:46.140 A big, ugly breakup over President Trump's big, beautiful bill between President Trump and Elon Musk.
00:01:52.240 Musk slamming the president's budget bill for too much spending and not enough cuts.
00:01:56.760 The president threatening to pull Musk's $38 billion in government contracts and subsidies.
00:02:02.440 Musk warning the Epstein files are being kept secret to protect the president.
00:02:06.080 Not only making the Trump tax cuts permanent, but the largest package of working class, middle class tax relief that has ever been proposed.
00:02:14.280 You combine that with unleashing American energy, getting rid of wasteful regulations,
00:02:18.740 and also very importantly, getting the illegal aliens out of the country who are driving down wages for working people.
00:02:25.000 This is the most working class bill that has ever been proposed.
00:02:28.020 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington, D.C.
00:02:36.120 Today is June 6, 2025, Anno Domini.
00:02:40.860 The 6th of June, 81 years since the D-Day invasions of Normandy, France.
00:02:48.100 Here's a question.
00:02:48.900 Would the boys of Omaha Beach recognize the America of today?
00:02:56.340 What were they fighting for?
00:02:58.020 Is the country today the kind of country that the boys of Omaha Beach wanted?
00:03:05.040 I would argue that it's not.
00:03:07.260 And you can talk to them.
00:03:08.220 Many of them, not as many as before, but many of them are still around.
00:03:11.440 Many people know people who knew them.
00:03:13.620 And one of the ways that we can get back there, get back to that America,
00:03:18.180 is through ending the migrant crisis.
00:03:22.620 The migrant crisis is the largest and most significant change to America.
00:03:29.540 It is the largest and most significant crisis facing America today.
00:03:34.460 Anyway, let me ask you a couple of questions.
00:03:36.420 Laken Riley, Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nungary.
00:03:45.160 Did the debt and the deficit kill those American women?
00:03:50.600 Was it the debt that did that?
00:03:53.400 Or was it illegal migrants?
00:03:57.120 I think we know the answer to that question.
00:03:59.400 And we know the answer to all these questions.
00:04:02.320 These are the people who should not be here.
00:04:06.100 And President Donald J. Trump was elected to remove them.
00:04:10.580 When I went to the RNC, what sign did I hold?
00:04:15.680 It was the one they passed out.
00:04:17.240 And it said, mass deportations now.
00:04:21.160 Everyone can go see the pictures.
00:04:22.960 I remember what was said at every single one of those rallies,
00:04:26.320 every single one of those events that we went to.
00:04:29.700 This package that the president has put together
00:04:32.600 and has staked all of his considerable political capital on.
00:04:37.880 Yes, there are tax cuts.
00:04:39.480 And by the way, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime
00:04:42.280 are massive game changers for the working class.
00:04:46.740 But it is the mass deportations that were the mandate
00:04:52.320 from almost 10 years ago.
00:04:55.260 We're 10 days away from the 10-day anniversary of MAGA
00:04:58.200 when President Trump came down the escalator
00:05:01.140 and said, we are going to build a wall and deport them all.
00:05:06.920 And we finally have the chance to actually do this.
00:05:11.220 And let me tell you something.
00:05:13.080 We're going to.
00:05:14.720 We are going to.
00:05:17.780 No matter what.
00:05:19.380 We'll be right back.
00:05:20.020 Well, ladies and gentlemen, here we are back.
00:05:39.120 Human Events Daily.
00:05:40.660 We are live on Real America's Voice
00:05:43.220 as well as the Salem Radio Network.
00:05:45.240 Coast to Coast, our three Charlie Kirk's audience.
00:05:48.660 Want to bring them in.
00:05:50.300 Folks, we're going to get into a lot today.
00:05:52.100 We're going to talk about the battle of the billionaires
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00:05:55.140 We're going to talk about the issues at hand
00:05:56.540 and the bill that has been put forward
00:05:58.080 for the mass deportations
00:05:59.560 and ending the migrant crisis in America.
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00:07:47.160 Folks, I'm going to lay it out for you real simple.
00:07:49.880 Real simple.
00:07:50.920 The MAGA movement exists
00:07:52.780 because of mass deportations.
00:07:55.820 It exists because of the immigration issue, period, full stop.
00:08:01.320 When Donald Trump came down that escalator 10 years ago
00:08:04.980 and everything that's happened since,
00:08:08.260 the lawfare, the canceling,
00:08:10.360 people losing their bank accounts,
00:08:12.620 the arrests, the trials, the assassination attempts,
00:08:18.540 do you really think that we've come this far
00:08:21.140 to just throw it all away now?
00:08:23.240 No, I don't think so.
00:08:24.380 Why is it that there's always plenty of money
00:08:27.400 to send to Ukraine,
00:08:28.880 plenty of money to send the military
00:08:30.420 over to the Middle East,
00:08:32.100 plenty of money for all these things,
00:08:33.540 but suddenly when it comes to actually funding something
00:08:37.120 that's for the American people,
00:08:39.940 the American worker,
00:08:41.820 the American family,
00:08:43.580 American mothers and fathers
00:08:45.160 and American children,
00:08:46.720 oh, and then we got to be,
00:08:47.740 oh, now we got to be fiscally responsible.
00:08:49.940 Now we got to be fiscally responsible.
00:08:51.900 I'm sick of it.
00:08:52.780 I'm sick of it.
00:08:55.060 10 years,
00:08:55.800 we are not stepping back one step.
00:08:59.920 And if I see anyone taking one step back,
00:09:02.320 then you are going right on the list.
00:09:04.640 We got Vish Burra on, folks.
00:09:06.200 Vish, you got to take the mic, man.
00:09:08.040 I'm about to say something
00:09:08.840 that I shouldn't say right now.
00:09:10.400 Vish Burra,
00:09:11.080 producer, Matt Gaethro, OAN.
00:09:12.780 Take it away, Vish.
00:09:13.540 Jack, this is really, really simple.
00:09:17.040 Like you said, 10 years ago,
00:09:19.120 President Trump came down that golden escalator,
00:09:22.200 went right to the podium that day
00:09:25.160 and made his case for why he's running for president.
00:09:28.100 And it started with the illegal immigration issue.
00:09:32.040 I mean, he had those viral moments.
00:09:34.460 Burra said that, you know,
00:09:35.880 the Mexicans are sending all sorts of criminals
00:09:39.480 and rapists and drug dealers and all.
00:09:41.080 That was the lead off.
00:09:43.060 And that hasn't changed since.
00:09:45.340 And by the way, over the years, Jack,
00:09:48.140 you go to the rallies,
00:09:49.460 they chanted, build the wall, build the wall.
00:09:52.360 And then when it came to the 2023, 2024 rallies,
00:09:55.620 guess what?
00:09:56.400 The people in the rallies were not waving signs
00:09:58.920 that said cut deficits now.
00:10:01.320 They said mass deportations now.
00:10:04.660 And, you know, I think that one of the,
00:10:07.300 Donald Trump is one of the best marketers ever
00:10:10.040 in the history of the world.
00:10:11.980 And, you know, he came out with this
00:10:13.900 big, beautiful bill aesthetic.
00:10:16.620 And it's really a signal that Donald Trump
00:10:19.580 is trying to keep his promises.
00:10:21.500 That's his number one superpower with his base,
00:10:24.520 is keeping his promises.
00:10:26.160 This big, beautiful bill does exactly that.
00:10:28.760 But I think he would have gotten
00:10:29.860 just a little step further
00:10:31.520 and said that this is the big,
00:10:33.200 beautiful deportations bill.
00:10:34.880 This is ultimately what this bill is addressing
00:10:38.080 on a magnitude we've been fighting for
00:10:40.740 for over a decade.
00:10:42.780 It finally finishes the wall.
00:10:44.680 It mandates that a million people be deported every,
00:10:48.180 a million illegals be deported every year.
00:10:50.660 It also kicks off illegals on Medicaid
00:10:54.580 and all these programs.
00:10:56.040 It is so hyper-focused on making sure
00:10:58.520 to deliver on the promises Donald Trump
00:11:01.860 has been making, not just for the last election,
00:11:05.020 not just for the last five years or so,
00:11:09.020 it is for the last decade ever since Donald Trump
00:11:11.260 came down that golden escalator.
00:11:13.120 So Donald Trump is yet again
00:11:14.780 delivering on his promises.
00:11:16.740 That's what this bill is about.
00:11:18.480 That's what our fight, MAGA's fight,
00:11:20.460 has always been about.
00:11:21.580 It's been our number one issue
00:11:23.080 since time immemorial.
00:11:24.620 And we are going to stick by our guy,
00:11:27.960 by his side, have his back
00:11:30.020 when he's trying to address
00:11:31.700 our number one priority,
00:11:33.800 which is immigration.
00:11:36.460 It's always been number one.
00:11:39.000 It is the single,
00:11:39.960 this isn't the Jeb Bush movement.
00:11:41.680 This isn't the, you know,
00:11:44.480 the Mitt Romney movement.
00:11:46.260 That's why Romney lost.
00:11:47.900 That's why Paul Ryan couldn't even win
00:11:49.760 his own home state of Wisconsin.
00:11:52.560 He was humiliated in his own home state.
00:11:56.020 Okay?
00:11:56.660 A joke.
00:11:57.680 An absolute joke.
00:11:58.320 But you know who won Wisconsin and Michigan
00:12:00.500 and Pennsylvania?
00:12:01.980 By the way, wait for it, wait for it.
00:12:03.580 Not twice, but three times.
00:12:05.760 It was Donald J. Trump.
00:12:08.360 Donald Trump is the one who won.
00:12:10.780 And not just because of who he is.
00:12:12.480 All right?
00:12:13.420 He could have run up there and said,
00:12:15.160 oh, I'm going to give tax breaks
00:12:16.380 for all the wealthy
00:12:17.360 and do this for my buddies
00:12:19.000 and do all this.
00:12:19.760 And guess what?
00:12:20.220 He would have gone down
00:12:20.820 like Michael Bloomberg.
00:12:22.200 People even forget that Michael Bloomberg
00:12:23.580 ran for president.
00:12:24.580 No.
00:12:24.740 He came up and said,
00:12:26.320 I'm going to finally do something
00:12:28.000 for the American people
00:12:30.140 and do so at the detriment
00:12:33.140 to my businesses,
00:12:34.920 to my net worth,
00:12:36.860 to his own lifestyle
00:12:38.500 that he walked away from.
00:12:40.560 This is the difference.
00:12:42.120 Vish,
00:12:42.340 there is a difference
00:12:43.480 between money and power.
00:12:46.780 Okay?
00:12:47.400 Right.
00:12:47.600 When someone is willing
00:12:48.800 to risk everything
00:12:50.220 and lose everything,
00:12:52.800 that is how you win
00:12:54.580 the will of the people
00:12:56.840 and doing the will of the people.
00:13:00.280 And I'm sorry,
00:13:01.220 but there's only one man
00:13:02.760 that I saw in Butler, Pennsylvania
00:13:05.460 who stood tall
00:13:06.660 while bullets were flying
00:13:08.000 with blood running down
00:13:10.360 his own face,
00:13:12.260 fist in the air,
00:13:13.400 yelling fight, fight, fight.
00:13:15.960 And that's Donald J. Trump.
00:13:18.300 That's right, Jack.
00:13:19.920 And think about
00:13:20.640 all the sacrifices
00:13:21.900 President Trump has made
00:13:23.500 and continues to make
00:13:24.960 to deliver for us,
00:13:26.420 the American people,
00:13:27.200 when we asked him
00:13:28.460 to be our champion,
00:13:29.600 be our fighter.
00:13:30.560 And he offered it
00:13:31.620 and he did it.
00:13:32.260 He went and faced down
00:13:33.440 every single nefarious entity,
00:13:36.420 every single nefarious force
00:13:37.920 that was trying to take him out,
00:13:39.580 that was trying to take his family out,
00:13:41.120 that was trying to take out
00:13:42.500 his empire of businesses,
00:13:44.900 his wealth,
00:13:45.780 his everything,
00:13:46.360 his existence,
00:13:47.240 his name.
00:13:48.040 They tried to erase
00:13:49.540 Donald Trump
00:13:50.600 from the historical record
00:13:53.580 of earth.
00:13:54.660 That's what these people
00:13:55.580 have been trying to do
00:13:56.480 and then they tried
00:13:57.080 to literally remove him
00:13:58.400 from the earth
00:13:59.280 as well back in Butler,
00:14:00.780 Pennsylvania.
00:14:01.700 These are all the things
00:14:03.060 that Donald Trump
00:14:04.280 has faced
00:14:04.880 to get to this point,
00:14:06.720 to be duly elected
00:14:09.500 by the people
00:14:10.420 and have their will
00:14:11.660 in his political capital.
00:14:15.420 And not only that,
00:14:16.520 it's not just him,
00:14:17.300 all his supporters
00:14:18.040 who had to go through
00:14:18.920 all of those things as well.
00:14:20.800 This was a hard-fought victory
00:14:22.620 for MAGA,
00:14:23.880 for the MAGA base
00:14:25.760 and for the American people.
00:14:26.640 We have a quick break coming up.
00:14:27.860 We're on with Vish Burra.
00:14:30.500 Vish,
00:14:30.860 and you and I were there.
00:14:31.840 We were there
00:14:32.380 the day of his first arraignment
00:14:34.140 in Manhattan,
00:14:35.460 that cold Manhattan morning
00:14:37.020 in March back in 2023,
00:14:39.920 standing up with bullhorns,
00:14:41.660 saying we don't care
00:14:43.400 what you have to say to us.
00:14:45.160 We don't care
00:14:45.540 what you do to us.
00:14:46.740 We don't care anything
00:14:47.420 because we're going to stand here
00:14:48.860 and we are going to keep fighting
00:14:50.380 when nobody believed
00:14:52.260 in this movement,
00:14:53.280 when nobody believed
00:14:54.740 that he could come back
00:14:55.720 to political office,
00:14:56.760 when no one believed
00:14:57.900 that a comeback was possible.
00:14:59.760 We stood in the breach.
00:15:01.480 Why?
00:15:02.140 Because he stood for us.
00:15:05.720 We're going to take a quick break
00:15:07.240 and be right back here.
00:15:08.820 Jack Posobiec, Vish Burra.
00:15:11.660 Today, you know,
00:15:18.700 they talk about influences.
00:15:20.240 These are influences
00:15:21.180 and they're friends of mine.
00:15:24.500 Jack Posobiec.
00:15:26.000 Where's Jack?
00:15:26.980 Jack?
00:15:27.900 He's done a great job.
00:15:29.420 All right, Jack Posobiec.
00:15:32.860 Here we are back.
00:15:33.540 Human Events Daily,
00:15:35.160 Real America's Voice,
00:15:36.800 Salem Radio Network.
00:15:38.620 Folks,
00:15:39.280 this bill
00:15:40.760 is everything
00:15:42.260 that we've been fighting for
00:15:44.280 for 10 years.
00:15:45.960 And I'm not saying
00:15:47.060 that there aren't,
00:15:48.680 you know,
00:15:49.140 some perfect issues
00:15:51.260 that we can talk about.
00:15:52.600 I'm not saying
00:15:53.780 that this is like
00:15:54.960 some handed by God
00:15:56.920 and we live,
00:15:57.500 folks,
00:15:58.200 we live in the real world,
00:15:59.320 okay?
00:15:59.820 We live in the real world.
00:16:01.780 This is how political
00:16:02.880 reality works.
00:16:04.740 And at the end of the day,
00:16:06.160 the MAGA movement
00:16:07.060 has always been about what?
00:16:09.340 It's been about
00:16:10.220 getting the economy right
00:16:12.200 for the middle class
00:16:13.140 and working class.
00:16:14.060 And that's mostly
00:16:15.280 through trade,
00:16:16.040 but also through
00:16:16.980 economic policies
00:16:18.040 that are populist.
00:16:19.760 It's through
00:16:20.480 mass deportations
00:16:22.040 and it's ending
00:16:23.180 the foreign wars.
00:16:25.080 You're worried about,
00:16:26.060 you're worried about the debt,
00:16:27.280 you're worried about the deficit.
00:16:28.580 Well, how about we stop
00:16:29.760 sending hundreds of billions
00:16:31.380 of dollars to Ukraine
00:16:33.140 and that,
00:16:34.480 which nobody ever seems
00:16:35.320 to have a problem with
00:16:36.140 when it comes to this.
00:16:37.120 And then we use that money
00:16:39.180 to fund the deportations.
00:16:41.100 Vishborough,
00:16:41.920 why is it
00:16:43.300 that there's always money
00:16:45.040 for war,
00:16:45.940 but never money
00:16:46.920 for things that actually
00:16:48.180 help the American people?
00:16:50.580 Well, this is the entrenched
00:16:52.100 uniparty establishment
00:16:53.420 in play, Jack, right?
00:16:55.260 This is also part of
00:16:56.260 what we've been trying
00:16:57.020 to fight as MAGA
00:16:58.720 and what we've been trying
00:17:00.100 to support President Trump's
00:17:01.620 effort in and trying
00:17:02.440 to drain the swamp
00:17:03.380 and make D.C.
00:17:05.420 in MAGA's image, right?
00:17:07.400 We have been running
00:17:08.320 the primaries.
00:17:09.540 We've been recruiting candidates.
00:17:10.880 We've been on the ground
00:17:11.740 pounding.
00:17:12.480 We've been over the air
00:17:13.760 promoting our ideals,
00:17:16.040 our candidates.
00:17:17.320 And we've been slowly
00:17:18.280 remaking D.C.
00:17:20.100 and the Congress,
00:17:21.120 the Senate,
00:17:21.820 the White House
00:17:22.480 in MAGA's image.
00:17:24.260 But it's a slow process.
00:17:25.900 It takes time.
00:17:26.620 And there's still
00:17:27.180 establishmentarians
00:17:29.940 and uniparty people
00:17:31.240 who are still in there,
00:17:32.720 who still make sure
00:17:33.720 that their priorities
00:17:34.720 are being funded.
00:17:36.040 And look,
00:17:36.440 if we had won
00:17:37.420 a larger majority
00:17:38.600 that's padded by
00:17:39.880 a ton of MAGA votes,
00:17:41.520 yeah, maybe we would
00:17:42.380 have gotten more
00:17:43.220 of what we wanted.
00:17:44.160 But as the majority
00:17:45.600 in the Congress
00:17:46.180 is constituted now,
00:17:47.900 this is what we can get.
00:17:49.240 And it's no small feat
00:17:51.900 to get what we wanted
00:17:53.760 on the border wall,
00:17:55.600 on the deportations,
00:17:57.060 on the 10,000 new ICE officers,
00:18:00.220 to get all of that
00:18:01.520 in this bill
00:18:02.360 with this Congress,
00:18:04.020 with the Republican
00:18:04.860 makeup as it is,
00:18:07.220 it's actually an incredible feat
00:18:08.840 to be able to get
00:18:09.740 this thing through
00:18:10.560 the Senate.
00:18:11.420 It would be
00:18:11.900 a historic bill.
00:18:13.760 And it would really
00:18:14.500 set the tone
00:18:15.140 on what is possible
00:18:16.480 in D.C.
00:18:17.600 when you have the power,
00:18:18.960 when you've worked hard
00:18:20.040 over the last decade
00:18:21.400 to take those halls of power.
00:18:23.280 This would be a monument
00:18:24.420 to Donald Trump's
00:18:25.960 legacy and successes
00:18:27.560 for everything he's,
00:18:30.240 all the work he's put in
00:18:31.840 for over a decade.
00:18:33.100 And so we need to make sure
00:18:34.200 that we bring this thing home
00:18:35.500 and get it through
00:18:36.280 the finish line.
00:18:37.440 I completely agree, Vish.
00:18:38.760 One of the other things
00:18:39.680 that, you know,
00:18:40.400 sort of the elephant
00:18:41.020 in the room
00:18:41.380 a little bit,
00:18:41.980 a little close to home,
00:18:43.400 so one of the top issues
00:18:45.800 as well, by the way,
00:18:47.480 freedom of speech
00:18:48.300 and also, by the way,
00:18:49.860 freedom of the press
00:18:51.740 have been huge issues
00:18:53.700 throughout the course of this,
00:18:55.900 by the way,
00:18:56.500 because they've been
00:18:57.260 trying to censor us
00:18:58.520 because we are
00:18:59.460 for mass deportations.
00:19:01.140 People need to understand
00:19:01.920 that was the issue
00:19:02.800 that caused the censorship
00:19:04.100 in the first place.
00:19:05.400 And I've always committed
00:19:06.560 and continue to commend
00:19:07.680 Elon Musk for this,
00:19:09.140 but also we are looking
00:19:10.880 for some help at the FCC
00:19:12.580 and we're looking
00:19:13.900 at ways, many ways,
00:19:15.400 digital bill of rights,
00:19:16.520 various things
00:19:17.220 that could be done
00:19:18.240 to actually help fight
00:19:19.760 the big tech oligarchy
00:19:21.960 and big media oligarchy.
00:19:23.720 And it seems that
00:19:24.940 one of our friends,
00:19:26.760 Gavin Wax,
00:19:28.200 is now potentially
00:19:28.980 in contention
00:19:30.920 for one of these spots
00:19:32.620 at the FCC
00:19:33.260 that has come up.
00:19:34.600 What are your thoughts on it
00:19:35.480 and where do you stand?
00:19:36.680 Well, it's actually quite,
00:19:40.520 I'm sure,
00:19:41.140 the honor and the privilege
00:19:42.060 to be even mentioned
00:19:43.040 in that conversation
00:19:44.160 for Gavin.
00:19:44.900 But we know Gavin
00:19:45.960 very well, Jack, right?
00:19:47.980 There is no question
00:19:49.160 about his loyalty
00:19:50.100 to President Trump.
00:19:51.340 There is no question
00:19:52.380 about his efforts
00:19:53.940 for the MAGA movement
00:19:56.400 on the ground,
00:19:57.300 over the air,
00:19:58.160 his writings.
00:19:59.100 He's done everything
00:19:59.840 for this movement.
00:20:01.180 And, you know,
00:20:01.820 I don't think there,
00:20:02.580 again,
00:20:02.780 there's no question
00:20:03.660 about his loyalty
00:20:04.860 and his views
00:20:06.200 and where he stands
00:20:07.440 on the issues.
00:20:08.480 But I think that one point
00:20:09.720 that needs to be
00:20:10.700 kind of pressed on
00:20:11.880 us a little bit
00:20:12.560 is that Gavin Wax
00:20:14.620 is probably the person
00:20:15.860 with the most bipartisan
00:20:17.200 broad appeal
00:20:19.140 to fill this role.
00:20:21.220 You know,
00:20:21.400 Gavin is very strong
00:20:23.380 on the issues of unions,
00:20:25.500 on the issues of labor,
00:20:27.520 on the issues of
00:20:28.680 rural broadband
00:20:29.700 and connectivity,
00:20:30.900 on the issues of localism
00:20:32.380 and local news
00:20:33.680 and local organizations
00:20:36.480 being funded
00:20:37.080 to be able to address
00:20:39.420 the concerns
00:20:41.020 of the population.
00:20:41.660 Almost out of time,
00:20:42.340 but it's, you know,
00:20:43.920 and Gavin Wax
00:20:44.740 is uniquely qualified
00:20:46.520 for this
00:20:47.100 because he understands
00:20:48.400 the threat
00:20:48.980 to free speech
00:20:49.760 and he also understands
00:20:51.300 the role of big tech
00:20:52.980 and big media
00:20:54.060 in this country.
00:20:55.640 I think he'd make,
00:20:56.320 if the president so chose,
00:20:57.940 I think he'd make
00:20:58.500 a fantastic addition
00:21:00.220 to the FCC.
00:21:02.840 Vish Burra,
00:21:03.440 go give him a follow.
00:21:05.600 We'll be right back.
00:21:06.360 We're going to be talking
00:21:06.920 Ukraine,
00:21:07.800 talking about that war
00:21:08.640 that just won't end
00:21:10.220 between Ukraine and Russia
00:21:11.680 when we return.
00:21:12.400 And Jack,
00:21:19.160 where is Jack?
00:21:21.320 Where is Jack?
00:21:23.560 Where is he?
00:21:24.860 Jack,
00:21:25.320 I want to see you.
00:21:28.500 Great job,
00:21:29.540 Jack.
00:21:29.940 Thank you.
00:21:30.700 What a job you do.
00:21:32.100 You know,
00:21:32.360 we have an incredible thing.
00:21:33.500 We're always talking
00:21:34.080 about the fake news
00:21:35.080 and the bad,
00:21:35.800 but we have guys
00:21:36.800 and these are the guys
00:21:38.180 who should be getting policies.
00:21:39.500 It was a deliberate strike
00:21:40.660 and it only confirms
00:21:43.120 our suspicions
00:21:43.820 that the illegitimate regime
00:21:46.360 in Kiev
00:21:46.940 that came to power
00:21:48.300 through a coup
00:21:48.940 is now being reborn
00:21:50.800 as a terrorist organization
00:21:52.320 and its sponsors
00:21:55.280 become supporters
00:21:57.520 of terrorism.
00:22:00.580 Recently,
00:22:01.280 the Ukrainian government
00:22:03.180 and their allies
00:22:04.480 dreamt
00:22:05.600 of inflicted
00:22:06.600 against strategic defeat
00:22:07.780 on Russia
00:22:08.220 on the battlefield.
00:22:10.100 Now,
00:22:10.500 they're withdrawing
00:22:11.680 from the battle zone,
00:22:15.960 fleeing,
00:22:18.240 and now
00:22:18.700 the Kiev regime
00:22:22.260 is trying to resort
00:22:23.220 to terrorist attacks.
00:22:24.820 At the same time,
00:22:25.680 they're asking
00:22:27.560 for a ceasefire.
00:22:29.160 They're asking
00:22:29.800 for top-level meetings.
00:22:33.000 But how can we
00:22:33.980 organize such meetings
00:22:35.280 when something like this
00:22:36.620 is happening?
00:22:37.080 What is there
00:22:38.240 to talk about?
00:22:39.820 How can we negotiate
00:22:41.080 with those
00:22:41.840 who are resorting
00:22:44.580 to terrorism?
00:22:46.680 And
00:22:46.940 why should we
00:22:49.600 reward them
00:22:51.460 with a
00:22:53.080 cessation and hostilities,
00:22:55.700 allowing them
00:22:57.040 to receive additional weapons
00:22:59.040 to continue
00:23:00.040 their mobilization
00:23:01.000 and to prepare
00:23:01.760 for more terrorist attacks
00:23:03.140 like those
00:23:03.680 in the Bryansk and Kursk regions?
00:23:04.900 I think that's the question.
00:23:07.080 All right, folks.
00:23:08.060 Jack Posobiec here.
00:23:09.440 Human Events Daily.
00:23:11.160 Real America's Voice,
00:23:12.040 Salem Radio Network.
00:23:13.880 Charlie Kirk,
00:23:14.940 Hour 3.
00:23:17.180 That was President Putin.
00:23:18.620 It's been translated
00:23:19.460 into English.
00:23:20.540 But that was President Putin
00:23:21.540 declaring
00:23:22.320 that after
00:23:24.640 the attacks
00:23:25.900 on Russian civilians
00:23:27.820 and a civilian train,
00:23:30.560 the attacks
00:23:31.860 on the strategic bombers
00:23:33.260 that he now views
00:23:35.760 and the Kremlin
00:23:36.660 now views
00:23:37.740 the Ukrainian government
00:23:39.400 essentially
00:23:40.360 as terrorists.
00:23:42.600 And of course,
00:23:43.560 in the Russian parlance,
00:23:45.700 they would then come back
00:23:46.620 and say,
00:23:47.160 well,
00:23:47.540 we refuse to negotiate
00:23:48.900 with terrorists.
00:23:50.480 This also comes
00:23:52.700 amid a massive reprisal
00:23:55.000 from the Russians
00:23:56.260 sending ballistic missiles,
00:23:58.740 cruise missiles,
00:23:59.840 and hundreds
00:24:00.920 of drones,
00:24:02.620 massive drone swarms
00:24:04.020 across every single region
00:24:06.180 of Ukraine last night
00:24:07.920 all the way up
00:24:08.920 to the border
00:24:10.200 with Poland itself,
00:24:11.300 the NATO border.
00:24:12.640 And so,
00:24:13.640 huge reprisal.
00:24:14.980 And so many analysts
00:24:16.940 in Washington, D.C.
00:24:18.640 have told us
00:24:19.280 that the Russians
00:24:19.960 don't have the reserves,
00:24:22.340 they don't have
00:24:22.760 the military capacity
00:24:24.060 to be able to do this.
00:24:25.160 Well, guess what?
00:24:26.140 Russia never divested
00:24:27.400 of their manufacturing base.
00:24:30.000 They never did.
00:24:30.660 The United States did.
00:24:32.200 They also are willing
00:24:33.660 to tap their own
00:24:34.760 economic resources
00:24:35.840 and their natural resources.
00:24:38.120 Oil,
00:24:38.960 liquid natural gas,
00:24:39.940 all of it
00:24:40.340 that's out in Far East Siberia.
00:24:41.880 They're using it.
00:24:42.720 They're selling it
00:24:43.220 to the Chinese.
00:24:44.260 They're using it
00:24:44.940 to flood the zone
00:24:46.700 and to prop up
00:24:48.420 the BRICS nations.
00:24:49.980 And don't tell me,
00:24:51.140 by the way,
00:24:52.260 that the sanctions
00:24:52.880 are really stopping that.
00:24:54.260 This is how they're
00:24:54.940 getting around a lot of this
00:24:57.340 while they continue
00:24:58.100 to fill their coffers.
00:25:00.520 And Europe,
00:25:01.180 by the way,
00:25:01.580 Western Europe,
00:25:02.320 is still purchasing
00:25:03.820 Russian gas
00:25:04.940 because they have to.
00:25:06.080 It is just cheaper.
00:25:07.060 It is just cheaper
00:25:07.960 and that's what's going on.
00:25:09.380 So this is a huge turn
00:25:11.040 in relations.
00:25:12.740 I wanted to bring on
00:25:13.700 someone that I've been
00:25:15.120 chatting with
00:25:15.840 about this
00:25:17.020 for a little while
00:25:18.420 on the backside,
00:25:19.820 but not on the show yet.
00:25:21.660 But I want to bring him on
00:25:22.360 because I think he has
00:25:23.280 a lot of interesting things
00:25:24.620 to say.
00:25:25.120 It's Jeff Webb.
00:25:26.120 He's the CEO
00:25:26.780 of the Human Events Media Group
00:25:28.120 and a business entrepreneur
00:25:29.380 in his own right.
00:25:31.740 Jeff,
00:25:32.340 you know,
00:25:32.640 hearing this latest
00:25:33.700 out of Ukraine,
00:25:35.460 what does this mean
00:25:37.260 for the peace talks?
00:25:38.740 What does this mean
00:25:39.520 for the peace process?
00:25:42.820 It's very concerning.
00:25:44.400 It's very disturbing.
00:25:46.160 I think rather than moving
00:25:48.660 with some type of momentum
00:25:50.120 toward peace discussions,
00:25:51.980 starting with the ceasefire
00:25:53.760 and so on,
00:25:54.420 as President Trump
00:25:55.440 has attempted,
00:25:56.660 we seem to be going
00:25:57.540 the other direction.
00:25:58.900 I mean,
00:25:59.260 we're getting real escalation here.
00:26:01.200 And I really worry
00:26:02.360 that the opportunity
00:26:03.960 for real peace discussions
00:26:06.740 has come and gone.
00:26:09.240 And that maybe even a year ago,
00:26:11.360 I think Ukraine
00:26:13.480 was in a stronger position
00:26:15.080 to have those negotiations.
00:26:17.420 And now, again,
00:26:19.180 we see with the attacks
00:26:20.480 on the Russian air bases
00:26:22.980 last week,
00:26:24.500 and then, of course,
00:26:25.300 the attacks you mentioned
00:26:26.980 just now on Ukraine
00:26:28.960 by the Russians,
00:26:29.600 it's things are going
00:26:31.180 the wrong direction.
00:26:31.980 There's no doubt about it.
00:26:33.100 And I think you make
00:26:34.440 a very good point, Jack,
00:26:35.620 about the Russians'
00:26:36.700 abilities to rearm.
00:26:38.020 And we have been hearing,
00:26:39.460 you're right,
00:26:39.980 for months,
00:26:41.200 for months,
00:26:41.640 from military,
00:26:42.620 so-called military experts,
00:26:44.380 that Russia was going
00:26:45.600 to run out of,
00:26:46.260 you know,
00:26:47.000 military armaments.
00:26:48.280 And it seems to be
00:26:49.360 just the opposite.
00:26:50.340 And that's concerning as well,
00:26:52.000 because now you've got
00:26:52.960 this Russian army
00:26:54.140 and this Russian military
00:26:55.320 that is getting
00:26:56.320 all this battlefield experience.
00:26:58.220 and that's concerning.
00:27:01.200 You know,
00:27:01.340 that one of the things
00:27:02.100 they've said about the U.S.,
00:27:03.880 especially after Vietnam,
00:27:05.260 was even though
00:27:05.820 that was a big problem,
00:27:07.300 you know,
00:27:07.580 the military really,
00:27:09.100 you know,
00:27:09.440 had experience on tactics
00:27:11.000 and how to do things differently.
00:27:13.060 Well,
00:27:13.660 the Russians are fighting
00:27:14.600 a modern war
00:27:15.980 and they're starting
00:27:17.600 to do better and better.
00:27:18.740 And now they've
00:27:19.400 armed themselves,
00:27:20.700 they've built up
00:27:21.260 their manufacturing
00:27:22.160 for their war capability.
00:27:24.860 So all the way around,
00:27:26.280 I think it's not good.
00:27:28.220 So Jeff,
00:27:30.660 if you had the ability
00:27:31.580 to reach out to,
00:27:34.120 and obviously we have senators
00:27:35.340 and members of Congress
00:27:36.260 who watch the program
00:27:37.240 and are potentially listening
00:27:38.860 on the podcast side
00:27:40.720 or live on Salem Radio right now,
00:27:43.420 if you had the ability
00:27:44.100 to reach out to them,
00:27:45.760 what would your advice be
00:27:47.500 given the current situation
00:27:49.500 between the two sides?
00:27:50.780 That's a tough one, Jack.
00:27:54.820 You know,
00:27:55.660 I agree.
00:27:56.240 Well, yeah,
00:27:56.320 it's not so often
00:27:57.740 that we have someone
00:27:58.820 who's been involved
00:27:59.740 in international negotiations
00:28:01.660 and dealing with these types
00:28:03.000 of coalitions
00:28:03.640 and things at this level.
00:28:04.820 So, you know,
00:28:05.580 I figure if Steve Witkoff
00:28:06.860 can do it,
00:28:07.320 then maybe,
00:28:07.880 maybe we could tap
00:28:09.140 some of Jeff Webb's
00:28:10.060 expertise as well.
00:28:12.300 Fair enough.
00:28:13.300 It doesn't make it easier,
00:28:14.540 but fair enough.
00:28:16.160 You know,
00:28:16.880 I think that,
00:28:18.160 I'm worried that the Europeans,
00:28:20.180 frankly,
00:28:21.240 who have a much different situation
00:28:24.160 than we do,
00:28:24.680 they're a lot closer to this.
00:28:27.080 You know,
00:28:27.760 the Western Europeans
00:28:28.900 have been fighting the Russians,
00:28:31.320 you know,
00:28:32.100 on and off for hundreds
00:28:33.080 and hundreds of years,
00:28:34.280 back and forth
00:28:35.200 over the Ukraine
00:28:36.480 and Poland and so on,
00:28:37.760 and there's a lot of mistrust there.
00:28:40.260 You have to look back also
00:28:41.420 at the fact that the Russians
00:28:42.620 lost, you know,
00:28:43.840 nearly 9 million soldiers
00:28:46.060 during World War II,
00:28:47.640 17 million civilians,
00:28:50.120 17 million.
00:28:51.620 And so there's a lot of mistrust
00:28:53.360 on that side as well.
00:28:55.240 I think somehow,
00:28:56.840 some way,
00:28:58.220 I think it can't be done
00:29:00.060 without the U.S.
00:29:00.880 I think,
00:29:01.380 I think President Trump right now
00:29:02.740 is in a very tough position.
00:29:04.480 I'm not sure he has the cards to play.
00:29:06.200 You know,
00:29:06.840 he was talking to Zelensky
00:29:08.880 and I mean that with all respect.
00:29:10.500 It's just that
00:29:11.160 I don't know that
00:29:12.820 we have a lot of influence right now.
00:29:15.900 It's not the right time.
00:29:17.720 But the Europeans
00:29:18.600 have seemed to be
00:29:20.020 much more kind of hawkish
00:29:21.740 than we have.
00:29:23.000 And when you talk,
00:29:23.700 when the British
00:29:24.500 are going to a war footing
00:29:25.900 and they're talking about,
00:29:27.660 you know,
00:29:28.380 putting the French,
00:29:29.520 we're talking about putting,
00:29:30.440 you know,
00:29:31.400 boots on the ground in Ukraine,
00:29:33.140 that's really going
00:29:34.500 the wrong direction.
00:29:35.940 It's somehow,
00:29:36.720 some way,
00:29:37.500 we have to get our way
00:29:38.440 to a ceasefire
00:29:39.160 where,
00:29:39.640 as President Trump said,
00:29:40.920 at least the killing stops
00:29:42.980 and somebody's going to have
00:29:44.640 to make their first move.
00:29:45.960 I don't think the Russians
00:29:47.020 are going to do it.
00:29:48.020 I think it's going to have to be
00:29:49.400 the Ukrainians,
00:29:50.300 unfortunately,
00:29:51.320 just because of the history here.
00:29:54.320 Well,
00:29:54.780 Jeff,
00:29:55.420 coming at it
00:29:56.260 from a negotiator standpoint,
00:29:58.440 you know,
00:29:58.840 Ukraine obviously
00:29:59.880 is very entrenched
00:30:01.120 in their position
00:30:02.160 and,
00:30:03.060 you know,
00:30:03.480 they're fighting this war
00:30:04.560 for their survival
00:30:05.680 in many cases
00:30:06.520 and they're willing,
00:30:07.560 as we've seen,
00:30:08.360 to go to great lengths
00:30:09.800 to conduct these attacks,
00:30:11.500 which Russia then responds
00:30:13.020 and calls them
00:30:13.740 terrorist attacks,
00:30:14.640 saying you're hitting bridges,
00:30:15.640 you're hitting trains,
00:30:16.960 obviously this huge,
00:30:18.760 very audacious plan
00:30:20.780 to attack the strategic bombers
00:30:22.760 across all of Russia.
00:30:25.180 But,
00:30:25.440 but when it really comes down to it,
00:30:27.720 do you think
00:30:28.400 this is going to get done
00:30:29.780 without having,
00:30:31.440 ultimately,
00:30:32.120 Trump and Putin
00:30:34.120 talking to each other
00:30:35.480 and really making
00:30:36.600 that one-on-one deal
00:30:38.660 between the two of them?
00:30:40.800 I,
00:30:41.420 I think
00:30:41.940 it will not stop
00:30:43.080 until that ultimately happens.
00:30:44.900 It's,
00:30:45.500 it's a matter of
00:30:46.300 getting to that,
00:30:47.580 to that position,
00:30:48.900 listening to what,
00:30:49.760 in the,
00:30:50.680 in the piece you ran
00:30:51.560 before you and I
00:30:52.600 started talking here,
00:30:53.860 listening to,
00:30:54.600 to Putin's position
00:30:55.900 as far as,
00:30:57.200 you know,
00:30:58.040 the,
00:30:58.900 viewing the,
00:31:00.580 the,
00:31:00.760 what he views as escalation
00:31:02.840 on the,
00:31:03.940 on behalf of the Ukrainians.
00:31:05.180 I look,
00:31:05.500 there's two sides to it always.
00:31:07.580 The Ukrainians feel the same way,
00:31:09.120 but I,
00:31:10.580 you're,
00:31:10.700 you're right about the Ukrainians
00:31:11.980 fighting for their,
00:31:13.000 their homeland
00:31:13.640 and their survival.
00:31:15.040 Again,
00:31:15.520 if you go back over history,
00:31:17.520 you know,
00:31:17.860 the,
00:31:18.200 especially those eastern provinces,
00:31:19.640 they are very,
00:31:20.500 uh,
00:31:21.220 Russian oriented
00:31:22.180 and it's,
00:31:23.460 the lines are,
00:31:24.640 are not so clear,
00:31:25.940 unfortunately.
00:31:26.840 But I think that
00:31:28.500 the,
00:31:29.120 the,
00:31:29.440 the,
00:31:29.600 somebody has,
00:31:30.360 has to stop shooting
00:31:32.180 and the other hopefully
00:31:33.800 will respond
00:31:34.780 and it probably will take sanctions,
00:31:36.980 uh,
00:31:37.980 severe sanctions,
00:31:39.120 uh,
00:31:40.020 to make that happen.
00:31:40.960 You make a great point
00:31:41.900 about the Europeans
00:31:42.680 still buying Russian
00:31:43.640 oil and gas.
00:31:44.860 So in effect,
00:31:45.640 they are fueling,
00:31:47.420 uh,
00:31:48.120 the,
00:31:48.440 the,
00:31:48.780 the conflict.
00:31:49.780 So it,
00:31:50.640 it's complicated.
00:31:51.660 It's just something
00:31:52.380 I hope that,
00:31:53.300 um,
00:31:54.200 you know,
00:31:54.520 we don't find the,
00:31:55.480 find our own country
00:31:56.280 drug into.
00:31:57.340 Uh,
00:31:57.780 it's happened before.
00:31:58.580 I hope it doesn't happen again.
00:31:59.520 Well,
00:32:01.420 and this,
00:32:01.760 this became a huge issue.
00:32:02.860 So I just got back
00:32:03.740 from,
00:32:04.220 uh,
00:32:05.060 Europe,
00:32:05.500 met with prime minister
00:32:07.060 Viktor Orban
00:32:07.980 and,
00:32:08.880 uh,
00:32:09.080 had the opportunity
00:32:09.800 to meet the now
00:32:11.000 president elect
00:32:12.160 of Poland.
00:32:14.340 And one of the things
00:32:15.800 that Viktor Orban
00:32:16.640 said during our meeting,
00:32:17.900 and I asked him about this
00:32:18.960 regarding the,
00:32:20.660 regarding the negotiations
00:32:22.080 and he has tried
00:32:22.980 and folks remember,
00:32:24.020 and he took a lot of,
00:32:24.840 uh,
00:32:25.560 a lot of flack for this
00:32:26.960 and a lot of criticism
00:32:27.760 because he went to
00:32:28.660 the Ukrainians in Kiev
00:32:29.680 and then he also went
00:32:30.820 to the Russians in Moscow
00:32:32.260 when Hungary held the head
00:32:34.320 of the European commission
00:32:35.300 and he was the president
00:32:36.420 of it last year.
00:32:37.240 And he said,
00:32:37.920 look,
00:32:38.420 we want peace on both sides,
00:32:40.120 but unfortunately,
00:32:40.800 both sides were telling him
00:32:42.820 that we believe
00:32:44.120 that we are winning.
00:32:45.020 So we went to the Russians
00:32:45.800 and he said,
00:32:46.340 we're,
00:32:46.620 they said,
00:32:47.000 we're winning.
00:32:47.660 We believe we have time
00:32:48.500 on our side.
00:32:49.160 And then he went to
00:32:49.900 the Ukrainians
00:32:50.460 and they said,
00:32:51.080 we believe we're winning
00:32:52.300 and we have time
00:32:53.280 on our side.
00:32:54.380 And this just goes
00:32:55.760 to show you
00:32:56.340 that it really feels
00:32:57.900 like there's a lot
00:32:58.400 of recalcitrance
00:32:59.240 on both sides.
00:33:00.560 A lot of galvanization,
00:33:01.740 obviously,
00:33:02.280 as happens
00:33:03.000 with these types of wars,
00:33:04.600 but there's just no appetite
00:33:06.560 even in a place
00:33:07.820 like Poland
00:33:08.700 where my family's from,
00:33:10.580 but even in that election,
00:33:11.560 if those results show,
00:33:12.700 there isn't an appetite
00:33:13.880 even for them
00:33:15.060 who have a lot of reasons
00:33:16.600 to not be fans
00:33:17.660 of Russia,
00:33:18.540 a true enemy
00:33:19.180 or adversary,
00:33:20.520 I guess,
00:33:20.880 in a classical sense,
00:33:22.120 but they don't want
00:33:22.800 to go to war either.
00:33:23.820 And that's really
00:33:24.540 what this comes down to.
00:33:26.980 No, no,
00:33:27.660 I think you're absolutely right.
00:33:28.860 And I think you,
00:33:29.800 you know,
00:33:30.560 history tells us
00:33:31.540 that when you have
00:33:32.780 this kind of ongoing
00:33:33.880 back and forth conflict
00:33:35.140 at a certain level,
00:33:36.300 it's just a matter
00:33:37.240 of some miscalculation
00:33:38.680 and pretty soon
00:33:39.460 you're in something
00:33:40.600 really, really major.
00:33:42.040 And we have to remember,
00:33:43.180 of course,
00:33:43.600 that the Russians
00:33:45.700 have, what is it,
00:33:46.360 4,000 nuclear weapons?
00:33:47.760 And we just have
00:33:49.640 to always keep
00:33:50.700 that in mind.
00:33:52.040 And I think that,
00:33:54.380 I think that the Europeans
00:33:56.080 are going to have
00:33:56.700 to come to
00:33:57.440 their own conclusions
00:33:58.780 about the fact
00:33:59.660 that there has
00:34:01.480 to be peace.
00:34:02.540 I mean,
00:34:02.800 Russia is a much
00:34:03.800 larger country
00:34:04.640 than Ukraine.
00:34:05.540 Jeff,
00:34:05.800 we have a quick break.
00:34:06.780 Hold that thought
00:34:07.440 because I want to,
00:34:08.340 I want to unpack this
00:34:09.400 in the next segment.
00:34:10.360 The European angle
00:34:11.740 on all of this
00:34:12.980 is so important
00:34:14.280 and it's going to be
00:34:15.440 what changes everything.
00:34:16.460 Jack is a great guy.
00:34:25.700 He's written
00:34:26.000 a fantastic book.
00:34:27.380 Everybody's talking
00:34:28.060 about it.
00:34:28.560 Go get it.
00:34:29.740 And he's been my friend
00:34:30.640 right from the beginning
00:34:31.580 of this whole beautiful event.
00:34:33.640 And we're going to
00:34:34.400 turn it around
00:34:35.020 and make our country
00:34:35.920 great to get to you.
00:34:36.880 Amen.
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00:35:35.400 Jack Posobiec here.
00:35:36.580 Back,
00:35:36.980 final segment
00:35:37.580 of the week.
00:35:38.880 Pretty,
00:35:39.280 pretty eventful week,
00:35:41.440 that's to be said.
00:35:43.000 And not only
00:35:43.760 the sparks flying
00:35:44.740 in Washington,
00:35:45.380 D.C.,
00:35:45.880 but the actual missiles
00:35:47.360 flying
00:35:47.860 and the drones flying
00:35:48.980 between Ukraine
00:35:50.160 and Russia.
00:35:51.700 We're on live,
00:35:52.920 Real America's Voice
00:35:53.540 in the Salem Radio Network.
00:35:54.720 We're on with Jeff Webb,
00:35:56.160 business entrepreneur
00:35:56.880 and CEO
00:35:57.640 of the Human Events
00:35:58.560 Media Group.
00:35:59.360 Jeff,
00:35:59.560 during the break,
00:36:00.640 you said something
00:36:01.400 that I really want
00:36:02.320 to unpack
00:36:02.720 for the audience.
00:36:03.540 And we were talking
00:36:04.160 and we had mentioned
00:36:04.960 before about
00:36:05.540 Steve Witkoff
00:36:06.660 and his business
00:36:07.760 background.
00:36:09.000 And this is something
00:36:10.420 where he's faced
00:36:11.240 a lot of criticism.
00:36:12.500 People have said,
00:36:13.100 how can President Trump
00:36:14.880 appoint a businessman
00:36:15.780 to go and deal
00:36:17.440 with all of these issues?
00:36:18.500 And he's obviously
00:36:19.340 not just involved
00:36:19.980 in Ukraine and Russia,
00:36:20.900 but Israel-Gaza,
00:36:22.600 involved in these
00:36:23.680 Iran negotiations,
00:36:25.280 nuclear weapons,
00:36:26.240 all of these things.
00:36:27.100 He's saying,
00:36:27.380 this guy's not an expert.
00:36:28.400 He doesn't have any
00:36:29.100 background in these things.
00:36:30.880 Jeff,
00:36:31.540 is having a business
00:36:32.680 background actually
00:36:33.900 an advantage
00:36:35.520 in some of these
00:36:37.060 negotiations
00:36:37.840 as opposed to
00:36:39.060 a disadvantage
00:36:39.900 as the media
00:36:40.740 would have us believe?
00:36:42.600 Yeah,
00:36:42.860 I think it definitely
00:36:43.600 can be.
00:36:44.240 I mean,
00:36:44.420 I think Steve's done
00:36:45.320 an amazing job
00:36:46.440 so far,
00:36:47.180 by the way.
00:36:48.260 And,
00:36:48.560 you know,
00:36:49.660 just having been
00:36:50.760 involved in
00:36:51.460 a lot of business
00:36:52.800 negotiations
00:36:53.540 and transactions
00:36:54.560 and,
00:36:55.240 you know,
00:36:56.660 I think your point,
00:36:58.000 Jack,
00:36:58.220 about not bringing
00:36:59.920 in some ideological
00:37:00.880 position
00:37:01.800 that perhaps
00:37:03.360 puts you
00:37:04.280 in a difficult
00:37:05.320 place as far
00:37:06.940 as giving
00:37:07.340 and taking
00:37:07.900 and,
00:37:08.620 you know,
00:37:08.720 you're just kind of
00:37:09.320 blinded to some extent
00:37:10.580 sometimes.
00:37:11.180 And I think
00:37:12.660 when you bring
00:37:13.240 somebody like
00:37:13.820 Whitcoff in,
00:37:15.040 who Trump says,
00:37:16.600 I want you to
00:37:17.040 make this deal.
00:37:18.240 Well,
00:37:18.380 he can always get
00:37:19.160 the advice
00:37:19.840 of diplomats
00:37:20.760 and experts
00:37:21.480 and Miller.
00:37:22.120 Oh,
00:37:22.280 he can get all that.
00:37:23.680 But he's charged
00:37:24.560 with how do I do
00:37:25.360 the give and take here?
00:37:26.860 How do I really find out
00:37:28.440 what is the most
00:37:29.460 important thing
00:37:30.380 to each party?
00:37:31.940 How do I find out
00:37:32.760 what they could give
00:37:33.580 a little bit on?
00:37:34.780 How do I try to
00:37:35.500 try to change it
00:37:36.760 so that maybe
00:37:37.440 it's a different approach
00:37:38.640 and they can live
00:37:39.580 with that?
00:37:40.680 That's what
00:37:41.300 true negotiation is.
00:37:42.460 It's very difficult
00:37:43.500 and it's very difficult,
00:37:45.200 especially now.
00:37:46.180 You're not only
00:37:46.580 dealing with money
00:37:47.700 like in business,
00:37:48.620 you are dealing
00:37:49.460 with politics
00:37:50.240 and sometimes religion
00:37:51.400 when you get
00:37:52.300 to the Middle East.
00:37:53.300 It's a tough job
00:37:54.940 and I think somebody
00:37:56.120 with that kind
00:37:56.600 of business background
00:37:57.600 I think is the right
00:37:59.780 kind of person
00:38:00.380 to lead those negotiations
00:38:01.540 ultimately.
00:38:03.080 You only have to
00:38:03.960 look back,
00:38:04.580 frankly,
00:38:06.060 at the,
00:38:06.520 you know,
00:38:07.620 at the previous
00:38:08.840 administration
00:38:09.600 with Anthony Blinken
00:38:11.660 and Jake Sullivan
00:38:12.560 and it's very difficult
00:38:14.200 to really identify
00:38:15.080 anything that they
00:38:16.380 got accomplished
00:38:17.020 in all four years.
00:38:18.400 We did end up
00:38:19.260 with a couple of wars
00:38:20.080 while they were in charge.
00:38:21.280 I was not blaming them
00:38:22.100 but they just
00:38:23.360 weren't effective
00:38:24.000 and I think Steve
00:38:25.080 Whitcoff already
00:38:25.840 has been more
00:38:26.660 effective than they
00:38:28.540 were in their four years.
00:38:31.560 Well,
00:38:32.120 you know,
00:38:32.400 actually when,
00:38:33.060 so when Secretary
00:38:34.200 Besson had me on,
00:38:35.520 another businessman
00:38:36.340 by the way,
00:38:36.920 coming in,
00:38:37.780 had me on that
00:38:38.800 train to Kiev
00:38:40.360 back in February
00:38:42.120 and we were,
00:38:43.980 so we were on
00:38:44.680 the presidential car
00:38:46.100 and they were telling us,
00:38:47.220 they said,
00:38:47.380 oh,
00:38:47.560 this was the same car
00:38:48.540 that Biden had used
00:38:50.340 and we were on
00:38:51.000 this sort of
00:38:53.440 conference room car
00:38:54.740 that they had
00:38:55.220 on the back
00:38:55.560 of the train
00:38:56.020 and they said,
00:38:58.060 and Jake Sullivan
00:38:58.620 was here too
00:38:59.320 and so I asked
00:39:00.080 the attendant,
00:39:01.420 you know,
00:39:01.580 sort of like a conductor
00:39:02.740 and I said,
00:39:03.480 so which seat
00:39:04.480 did Jake Sullivan sit
00:39:05.780 and he said,
00:39:06.140 is this one right here?
00:39:06.900 I said,
00:39:07.160 all right,
00:39:07.340 I'm not going to sit there
00:39:08.460 on the train.
00:39:11.640 And Secretary Besson,
00:39:12.660 look,
00:39:13.080 and I appreciate too
00:39:15.040 the way that he came at this
00:39:16.560 and obviously,
00:39:17.440 you know,
00:39:17.680 the deal hasn't quite gone
00:39:19.020 the way that I think
00:39:19.700 a lot of people were hoping,
00:39:20.820 but he offered
00:39:21.880 this mineral deal
00:39:23.520 to Ukraine
00:39:24.100 in terms of economic interest,
00:39:26.500 said,
00:39:27.020 and this has been something
00:39:27.740 President Trump,
00:39:28.480 again,
00:39:28.880 as his businessman
00:39:29.700 looking at it,
00:39:30.520 say,
00:39:30.720 look,
00:39:30.980 we want to get something
00:39:32.620 out of this,
00:39:33.660 we put so much in
00:39:35.080 and if Ukraine's
00:39:36.040 not going to be able
00:39:36.680 to refund these loans,
00:39:39.080 then perhaps there is
00:39:40.240 something that we can get
00:39:41.060 in terms of these rare earth
00:39:42.800 minerals or some of the
00:39:44.180 other mineral rights
00:39:44.980 out of there.
00:39:45.800 That's just what,
00:39:46.760 how a businessman thinks.
00:39:48.040 That's not how anyone
00:39:49.180 in Washington,
00:39:49.960 D.C. thinks,
00:39:50.540 though,
00:39:50.700 is it?
00:39:51.640 No,
00:39:52.080 it's not.
00:39:52.740 And I think the other thing
00:39:53.960 about that positioning
00:39:54.840 was that,
00:39:56.120 and this is kind of
00:39:57.680 a longer term play,
00:39:58.840 but,
00:39:59.360 you know,
00:39:59.560 when you have countries
00:40:00.740 that are doing business
00:40:02.280 with each other,
00:40:02.960 when you've got industries
00:40:04.300 that are interacting
00:40:05.320 within the two countries,
00:40:07.640 they don't really fight as much.
00:40:09.100 And so I think
00:40:09.740 just starting,
00:40:10.760 starting that process,
00:40:12.340 getting in business
00:40:13.280 with them,
00:40:14.180 having more say
00:40:15.180 in what they do.
00:40:16.680 And the same thing
00:40:17.720 with Russia.
00:40:18.380 I mean,
00:40:18.640 we,
00:40:18.920 I think that we should
00:40:19.840 be looking for ways.
00:40:21.200 I know that sounds
00:40:22.240 almost like heresy
00:40:23.100 to some people,
00:40:23.860 but we should be looking
00:40:25.300 for ways to be doing
00:40:26.400 business with all
00:40:27.720 of these countries
00:40:28.420 and perhaps you can,
00:40:30.020 you can break the cycle
00:40:31.240 of these kind of hostilities.
00:40:32.960 I think that's what it is.
00:40:36.880 I think that's what
00:40:37.560 it all is about.
00:40:39.500 Folks,
00:40:40.020 this is Jeff Webb.
00:40:41.700 We're just about
00:40:42.500 out of time here
00:40:43.320 for the program
00:40:44.100 for the week.
00:40:44.840 Jeff,
00:40:45.320 shout out your book again
00:40:46.980 so that everyone understands
00:40:48.420 how they can learn
00:40:49.280 a little bit more
00:40:50.120 about this
00:40:50.560 for themselves as well.
00:40:51.420 You know,
00:40:52.860 it's,
00:40:53.660 you can find that
00:40:54.760 on Amazon.
00:40:55.880 It's,
00:40:56.240 it's all about
00:40:57.980 the middle class,
00:40:58.880 which is what I grew up in
00:41:00.960 and different things
00:41:03.280 that I think,
00:41:04.280 I just kind of
00:41:04.900 practical knowledge.
00:41:06.660 It's called
00:41:06.940 American Restoration.
00:41:09.200 Absolutely.
00:41:09.860 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:41:10.460 as always,
00:41:10.920 you have our permission,
00:41:11.680 lay ashore.
00:41:21.420 Thank you.