Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 05, 2026


THE ANTI ESTABLISHMENT WAVE: SOCIALISTS SURGE IN MICHIGAN


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00:00:34.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:43.120 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:49.860 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:52.840 Christ is king.
00:00:54.600 Overnight, a victory for progressive Democrats in Battleground Michigan.
00:00:58.580 In the closely watched high stakes Democratic Senate primary, voters choosing Abdul Al-Sayed as their party's Senate nominee, defeating establishment-backed Congresswoman Haley Stevens.
00:01:10.040 Tomorrow we begin to mend fences.
00:01:13.160 We have a responsibility to assure that we unite to make sure that Mike Rogers never sees the inside of the U.S. Senate.
00:01:22.740 The Democrat Party as a whole is still stuck in 2016.
00:01:26.680 They're still stuck in that mindset.
00:01:27.740 And the Republican Party is rapidly changing.
00:01:32.060 If the Democrats don't try to change their own to fight back, it's going to be a lost cause.
00:01:37.400 If they go low, we don't go high. 0.80
00:01:39.140 We take them to the mud and choke them out.
00:01:43.640 Who are you supporting in the Senate race today? 0.99
00:01:46.500 Abdul.
00:01:47.080 And why is that?
00:01:48.120 Because he doesn't take money from APAC.
00:01:49.940 We've got to start taking care of home instead of the same old status quo.
00:01:55.700 Well, as you well know, ICE has nothing to do with the southern border.
00:01:59.460 And I think we need to abolish it and start from scratch.
00:02:02.260 I don't want somebody in somebody else's pocket that they have to agree to what they want to.
00:02:07.040 You know, too many people like that in politics.
00:02:09.740 The people keep telling us they don't think their incomes are keeping up with inflation.
00:02:13.700 So do they see an answer from either party?
00:02:17.020 Obviously a critical question as we head into the midterms, right?
00:02:19.580 Here's the answer.
00:02:20.440 No. And let me start with the Republicans, because we get 55 percent, a majority of Americans saying they think Republican policies are actually hurting their costs of living.
00:02:32.280 I'm going to dive a little bit in deeper into that really quick, because I want to show you this.
00:02:36.100 It is the difference among Republicans on immigration for President Trump's approval and inflation for President Trump's approval.
00:02:44.900 And look at this gap. 90 very, very strong on immigration to 68 on inflation.
00:02:49.460 So even a lot of Republicans are feeling the pinch.
00:02:53.320 Gas prices are above $4 a gallon.
00:02:56.040 Today, look at this.
00:02:57.020 The national average is $4.10.
00:02:59.060 And experts say that's not coming down anytime soon.
00:03:02.860 Remember, a year ago, a gallon of regular was $3.15.
00:03:06.820 And right before the war with Iran, gas prices were less than $3 a gallon.
00:03:11.660 All this as mortgage rates are nearly 7%.
00:03:14.060 percent well ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard today's edition of human events daily we're here
00:03:20.460 live on real america's voice today is august 5th 2026 anno domine and of course folks have seen
00:03:29.120 the news by now abdul el sayed the most anti-ice the most open borders candidate in america
00:03:40.020 Just want a big upset in Michigan. This is a guy who hates ice. He hates white people. He hates Americans. I guarantee you he hates American holidays just as much as Francesca Hong. I guarantee you he wants the same type of race based policies as Zoran Mandami.
00:04:00.880 by the way all of these candidates can i can i just can i just pause for a second here
00:04:06.120 what is the deal with these these guys and they're constantly rug pullers right they're
00:04:11.220 constant rug pullers they they promise one thing they campaign another way as soon as they win 0.54
00:04:16.060 you know they win the primary so just another rug puller and they have this thing that they 0.98
00:04:23.900 do when they talk i call it the progressive pause can we call it the progressive pause 0.99
00:04:28.300 they have a way of speaking. That is to pause a little bit right in the middle of their
00:04:37.540 sentences. We need a politics of looking to the future. We need a politics that's not looking
00:04:45.740 to the past. We need a politics for the people. We don't need a politics that's against the people.
00:04:54.340 it's this weird like like barack obama impression kind of rhetoric thing that i'm sorry i just don't
00:05:02.160 get they all do it they do it tal rico does it ossoff does it this progressive does this work 1.00
00:05:07.540 for stupid voters i i must be i guess you have to stop every once in a while so that stupid people 1.00
00:05:13.140 can actually keep up with what you're saying and and clearly it wins because you know it's effective 1.00
00:05:18.040 because he won the primary but they all do it even graham platter i know he dropped out but
00:05:22.700 Even Graham Plattner was doing it up in in Maine when he was speaking.
00:05:25.860 I just wish we could get money out of politics.
00:05:30.560 I just I just thought we could fight the machine.
00:05:34.660 And I just thought that you hear his little video.
00:05:38.200 Look, here's what it comes down to.
00:05:40.040 Here's what comes down to.
00:05:41.020 OK, at the end of the day, Republicans do need to wake up because cost of living is going up in the perception of voters.
00:05:52.700 and one of the most obvious places where they can see this is the price of gas and i posted this
00:05:59.040 tweet up and i said hey here i just pulled the from gas body i said here's gas price for last
00:06:03.260 last year from august uh excuse me last two years august 2024 to all to now august 2026
00:06:10.180 and and i said look you might want to sit there and say oh but jack but jack what about the the
00:06:17.140 Biden and what about this and that? I said, look, look, look, it's not about what Biden did.
00:06:24.900 It's about how voters perceive what you're doing for them now. You as a politician,
00:06:33.620 I'm speaking squarely to the Senate GOP. I'm speaking to the Senate, uh, excuse me,
00:06:39.140 the house GOP. What are you doing to fix this? What are you? Cause you're the ones up for
00:06:43.140 election this year. You're the ones who have the midterm elections. What are you doing to fix this
00:06:47.660 problem? Because voters see this every single day and they don't care what happened in 2021 or 2022
00:06:54.340 or 2023. They care about today and they care about tomorrow. An election is about the future.
00:06:59.500 Elections are about the future. Elections are about the future. You can't talk about stuff
00:07:04.920 from years ago because elections are about the future. You have to offer voters something right
00:07:10.820 Now, it's really simple. That's how voters, that's how psychology, that's how it all works.
00:07:16.820 And today, we're going to talk to pollsters to see what they say.
00:07:19.700 Right back, Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:07:31.040 Jack, where is Jack? Where is Jack? Where is he?
00:07:37.260 Jack, I want to see you.
00:07:40.820 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:07:46.000 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who
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00:09:18.800 All right, folks, we're going to get in.
00:09:19.900 We're going to talk about these polls because we got Rich Barris,
00:09:22.820 the People's Bundit, joining us now on Human Events.
00:09:26.040 Rich, how are you, buddy?
00:09:27.800 Living the dream as always, my friend.
00:09:29.480 Thanks for having me.
00:09:31.020 Well, it's great to see you down in Chattanooga.
00:09:32.460 And, Rich, I got to say, though, we saw the win in Michigan.
00:09:37.240 You've been predicting the rise of this, the anti-establishment candidates.
00:09:39.940 But look, that's not what I brought you on to talk about, because we got to talk about the progressive cause, the politics of change, the politics of the future.
00:09:51.660 Why do they do it? Rich, why do they all talk like this? They're like a bunch of cartoon characters.
00:09:57.780 It's scripted. I mean, this is this is a mold. This is an entire tactic.
00:10:04.440 And, you know, it's kind of smart to model it off of Barack Obama, but even though you were being coy a little bit, there's truth to it.
00:10:12.840 So the cadence in their voice and everything, it does allow people to process what they're saying and allows for delivery.
00:10:20.400 But this is all very well crafted, very well scripted, and there are going to be a bunch of them that follow this playbook because they know it works, Jack. 0.55
00:10:29.200 And, you know, I'm not going to say stupid, but it does allow time for people to process what they're saying before they deliver the emotional hit, which is you ever notice?
00:10:41.380 That's what always comes after that delay. 0.98
00:10:43.440 Oh, it's all it's all emotion.
00:10:46.800 It's pathos, you know, to use the, you know, the speaking.
00:10:51.340 Josh Shapiro does this, by the way, in Pennsylvania.
00:10:53.320 So my governor, you know, and I've seen him do this since he was a state rep, since he was my county commissioner.
00:10:57.840 you know he's it's actually gotten he's gotten a lot worse over the years he didn't used to do it
00:11:02.840 when josh spiro like if you go back 2008 when i first met him you know it's because it's so fake
00:11:08.180 and it's so effective and they don't always do it you notice they'll kind of they call it code
00:11:11.920 switching right so they'll drop it whenever they're having like a serious conversation
00:11:16.040 but when they get back to that stump they're always up there we're gonna make the rich talking
00:11:21.260 about freedom hey there fair share josh spiro when he says donald trump wants to step on your
00:11:26.680 freedoms. I can't even do it because I don't know how to like talk from my throat like
00:11:30.540 that. And it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's beneath me. And just like Josh Shapiro, because
00:11:35.440 he's only five, three and Abdul say, because he's only about five, four. And I'd love to
00:11:39.760 see them even bigger than those guys. I wasn't going to go there, Rich. I wasn't going to
00:11:45.600 go there, but Rich, look, look, look, they're all doing it. And to your point, it does work
00:11:50.920 on a certain subset of the voting base.
00:11:54.440 You see a lot.
00:11:55.240 Look, I saw a coalition with, you know,
00:11:57.320 going through the hashtags on this,
00:11:59.140 or the hash marks, I should say,
00:12:01.120 and correct me if I'm wrong,
00:12:02.400 but this looks a lot like the Mondami coalition.
00:12:05.380 It looks like you saw, you saw the,
00:12:07.860 because you saw the high affluent,
00:12:09.940 high educated progressive voters
00:12:11.820 and young voters going for, 0.93
00:12:13.800 and migrants, of course, going for Syed. 1.00
00:12:16.780 Then you saw, you saw blacks. 0.83
00:12:19.640 I haven't seen the breakdown on Hispanics yet, but you did see blacks and working class whites going for Stevens.
00:12:28.160 And so that reminds me a lot of the Mondami Cuomo progressive versus, you know, sort of establishment fight in the New York City primary.
00:12:36.900 What do you see in there?
00:12:38.200 Yeah, I mean, we should have expected this.
00:12:40.080 And by the way, you said it.
00:12:41.280 I'm just going to throw it in there real quick.
00:12:42.740 If only somebody had written a book warning about all of this, maybe we could have avoided it.
00:12:47.780 But it also included, Jack, I mean, some of this scared me a little bit, and some of the different vote chairs, vote methods, right? How did they vote? By mail, in person, on election day? He did have a little bit stronger, even though the race was close. He did demographically, let's not use stronger, let's use more diverse. He did have a little bit more diverse of a coalition.
00:13:08.440 And what concerned me the most is that looking at some of those counties like Macomb, he would do better in the early vote.
00:13:15.480 And then she would do very well in the, especially election day vote that would come in from more conservative or working class areas.
00:13:21.720 And then something happened later where it seemed like she had a very specific, and I'll tell you what I think it is.
00:13:29.580 She had a very specific timing in her vote with certain vote batches that did well for her.
00:13:36.820 And then even in places like McComb, where we saw that she was winning that, we thought, okay, his margin will shrink even more.
00:13:43.120 And it didn't shrink as much as we thought.
00:13:45.560 Even in her own home county, where she underperformed, contrary to what some people are saying, that's where she represents folks.
00:13:53.880 Winning it by that margin is a humiliation.
00:13:56.500 But I think there's an answer for this. 0.99
00:13:59.200 She had a lot of money.
00:14:00.840 And money in politics, it's a sad state of affairs, but it's just true.
00:14:04.940 It's just a reality.
00:14:05.720 it buys you a lot you know it can run around and give people loosies to make sure they get their
00:14:10.800 votes in it can run around and target specific neighborhoods and specific groups of voters
00:14:15.680 in a way that a more organic movement like el sayed he just didn't have the the financial
00:14:20.380 ability to do that so his was much more organic so if we look at places that weren't targeted and
00:14:27.740 weren't high media market areas high targeted media market areas we can see the more organic
00:14:33.300 elements of their coalition and in that respect where I do see that I think you know Jack in some
00:14:39.140 of these areas where Bernie did really well against Hillary Clinton in 2016 but by 2020
00:14:44.600 there weren't any Bernie voters there it had completely flipped he won only the urban
00:14:49.700 progressive areas and why because they all went to Donald Trump well El Sayed was doing well in
00:14:55.900 some of those areas in some of the later election day votes you know he lost the city early vote in
00:15:00.600 detroit by 50 points and the election day was basically tied so it was it's concerning you
00:15:07.500 know there are still contrary to what people think there are still some working class areas
00:15:11.480 where donald trump did very well in wayne county well and so this is this is actually key by the
00:15:17.640 way because it's going to be now of course it'll be incumbent upon rogers so he's running he's
00:15:23.600 looking at this and he's going to have to go now to independence and yes he's going to have to go
00:15:29.600 to a swath of those Democrats to say, you know something, this guy is just too radical for
00:15:36.120 Michigan. That's why you got to vote for me or at the very least stay home. Do you think Rogers has
00:15:42.840 a path? I mean, I think he has a path just from a probability point of view, but he is not favored
00:15:49.240 here. He is not likely. You guys know me. I do not sugarcoat anything. And the fact of the matter is
00:15:55.080 With the exception of Donald Trump, Jack, winning Michigan in 16 and winning it again, you know, once or maybe twice, right, in 24, definitely, and he won it fairly easily, it is little to suggest that Michigan really is a battleground state.
00:16:10.960 Just to give people a little bit of history, this is why Trump's anti-war and populist platform had to be the future of the Republican Party.
00:16:17.120 I can't believe after 10 years, we're still having to explain this to people.
00:16:21.200 Before Donald Trump, Republicans had not won a U.S. Senate seat in Michigan since 1994.
00:16:26.840 What happened in 1994 was an open seat, and it was the Republican revolution.
00:16:31.700 It was an extreme, not just a pro-Republican environment, a historically pro-Republican
00:16:37.780 environment that ended decades, decades of Republicans being locked out from some of
00:16:42.060 these areas.
00:16:42.740 but then they went on to lose it 1.00
00:16:44.700 the very next cycle to Debbie Stabenow
00:16:46.780 and before they won it in 94
00:16:48.120 they hadn't won it since 1972
00:16:49.960 and then you get at the presidential level
00:16:52.420 and Trump was the first one to win it since 1988
00:16:55.080 I mean guys
00:16:56.640 and the reason why I say this
00:16:57.840 is not to be a doomer
00:16:58.760 you know with all these like low IQ people out there
00:17:01.260 who want to create safe spaces 0.99
00:17:02.640 like the little cuckold crybaby leftist college kid 0.95
00:17:07.060 that they used to make fun of apparently four years ago 0.98
00:17:09.600 stick in reality for a second
00:17:12.200 And the reason why I say this is because it was important to keep Trump's platform.
00:17:17.140 It was important to run candidates that supported and pushed Donald Trump's platform.
00:17:22.980 A reversion to the old wing of the Republican Guard is the wrong move.
00:17:27.200 You cannot win the Rust Belt like this.
00:17:28.660 I've been on your show to talk with you about this, Jack, for years, countless times.
00:17:33.020 Mike Rogers couldn't put it away when Donald Trump was on the ballot in 2024.
00:17:37.440 And I know what the argument is.
00:17:38.560 Well, he wasn't running against El Saeed.
00:17:40.720 Well, that's great.
00:17:41.380 And my argument is the polls that even have them remotely competitive are modeling electorates more Republican than Donald Trump even had.
00:17:48.740 Mike Rogers underperformed Donald Trump in Oakland County in 2024.
00:17:53.320 This is a Herculean task.
00:17:55.600 It's not impossible.
00:17:56.940 It's just not, you know, I don't find it helpful to pretend like Mike Rogers can campaign the way he intends to campaign and still think that it's not going to be,
00:18:08.680 it's not going to end up anything else than an utter waste of money go give that money to
00:18:12.700 ken paxton and make sure that texas is shored up i mean just do that go give it to ashley hinson
00:18:17.920 and make sure we don't lose iowa that's where we are right now so people need to take their
00:18:22.700 heads out of the sand playing ostrich does nothing if mike rogers is going to be the
00:18:26.820 neocon he was during the iraq war run on with expanding fisa without reforms and you know the
00:18:33.260 iran war how popular that is then you know what gg good luck i don't know what to tell you you're 0.62
00:18:37.960 going to lose yeah you're probably going to lose badly of course going to be by the way we saw those
00:18:42.680 real quick going on break but rich we saw those same attack lines come out with um with el sayed
00:18:48.940 there in his not you know his victory speech where he was making that he's he's this is the
00:18:53.680 anti-establishment candidate versus a candidate that he is going to argue is part of the
00:18:58.920 establishment that insider base in washington dc and this is as you've as you've laid out
00:19:06.040 This is going to be the big danger because this is how radical politicians get elected.
00:19:12.960 Right back.
00:19:13.380 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Rue Markers Voigt.
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00:20:52.220 All right, we're on with Rich Barris.
00:20:54.160 And Rich, so this is something else I want to point out that it seems to me that there's
00:20:59.000 a lot of Republicans, particularly we'll just say like old, right. Republicans who seem to think
00:21:06.120 that all you have to do is say, Oh, he's a socialist, always a socialist. And that's all
00:21:09.860 you have to do. And, and, and, and they're going to win and enrich. So, so last week I kind of
00:21:15.860 played this, this AB test where I went up and I said, I don't think you guys understand how this
00:21:21.680 works right now. Most people out there, particularly under a certain age level and particularly under
00:21:27.900 a certain income level view the word socialist positively. And in addition, and this is where
00:21:35.120 I had a little fun, most people out there under a certain income level and under a certain age
00:21:41.140 level see the word capitalist as negative. And boy, Rich, guess what response I got when I
00:21:50.700 attack the word capitalist. Yeah. I mean, I, I saw, I w I was watching and here's what,
00:21:57.440 number one trend, uh, you know, yeah, it was up there for a while, Jack. Uh, but this is what
00:22:03.220 your critics don't understand. Your definition of capitalism may even be skewed on how other
00:22:09.320 people see it, but you're also being very dishonest about what you think we have in this
00:22:14.020 country. All right. What do you think we've had in this country for big con it's everyone knows
00:22:19.620 it's fake. Everyone knows that capitalism for them ends at the water's edge. It ends at the
00:22:24.180 corner of Wall Street and broad. Capitalism is only for the little guy who's got to pull himself
00:22:29.060 up by the bootstraps and eat ramen all through college, right? Until he can somehow scrape
00:22:35.620 something for himself in this system that is totally rigged against him and rigged in favor
00:22:40.560 of the privileged who get a very different form, which is this very soft, cushy form of socialism.
00:22:45.920 Robert Kennedy was right about that. This is what people need to comprehend. We don't live in 1980 anymore, okay? Reagan's not coming back, and the Reagan electorate is not coming back. You will never make people more afraid of those scary words socialism than they are at not being able to pay their own bills.
00:23:06.100 So you've got here and let me give you the opportunity because I know you have, you know, we have this chart up that you went through and you racked and stacked the different priorities that voters have.
00:23:17.700 And right up there, number one is cost of living, which Democrats have a massive lead on.
00:23:23.360 Now, this is widened out again since the peace deal fell apart.
00:23:26.720 A lot of this tightened, Jack, after the president in June announced the MOU, which, you know, what are we going to call it?
00:23:34.300 And the neocons attacked and pushed back and killed and made sure that it didn't continue.
00:23:38.380 This had narrowed. And then this was taken again after fighting resumed.
00:23:43.980 It's the optics of this entire thing, Jack, that the right doesn't seem to care at all about their priorities and that they're prioritizing whatever it may be.
00:23:52.600 And now, Rich, Rich, is this in order of importance for voters?
00:23:59.320 It is.
00:23:59.520 The way you have it laid out.
00:24:00.700 So I want to run through it.
00:24:02.420 It's inflation cost of living is number one.
00:24:03.880 Number two is economy jobs.
00:24:05.400 Number three is health care.
00:24:06.820 Number four is crime and safety.
00:24:08.260 Number five is immigration and border security.
00:24:10.800 Number five, by the way, is the only one that Republicans are winning.
00:24:13.860 Number six is accountability and corruption.
00:24:15.940 That's your Epstein files.
00:24:18.680 And number seven is foreign policy, national security, all the way at the bottom.
00:24:24.780 And also, by the way, Democrats are winning on foreign policy and national security.
00:24:29.820 So, Rich, this all sounds like I'm just going to say it.
00:24:33.440 It sounds like people out there are upset and they just want to burn it down.
00:24:38.920 Jack, you couldn't have said it better.
00:24:41.620 Again, I wish somebody wrote a book about this.
00:24:43.620 But just to point out why Democrats lead on foreign policy and national security, which is historically a very strong issue for Republicans generically in the congressional level, Senate, for president, they do because so many people are upset about how foreign policy and national security is being conducted.
00:25:00.440 They want to shut it down.
00:25:01.780 And we also ask, who do you trust more to keep us out of war?
00:25:04.620 How important do you think it is?
00:25:06.160 The bottom line is this is about optics.
00:25:09.020 People want their candidates that they're going to vote for.
00:25:12.480 You said this in the break, and you're right, that politics is always about the future.
00:25:17.140 What can you do for the future?
00:25:18.540 What can you do for us in the future?
00:25:20.380 How could you make our lives better?
00:25:21.860 Americans are instinctively forward-thinking.
00:25:24.920 This is all very, you know, a lot of the Republican messaging right now sounds all very bushy,
00:25:29.580 and that is not forward-thinking.
00:25:31.620 And I got to tell you, speaking of Bush, let me just bring up this little story, right,
00:25:35.500 that I think Republicans need to, you know, take their heads out of the sand and realize this could happen to them.
00:25:40.300 There's a, I mean it's not a famous scene
00:25:43.920 But people like me who do what I do know it well
00:25:46.400 In 1992, Herbert Walker Bush
00:25:49.100 Sitting with then George W. Bush
00:25:50.880 He's not yet the president
00:25:51.840 You know, was really stunned that he lost to Bill Clinton
00:25:54.380 He really had held out hope to the very end
00:25:56.800 That he was going to win re-election
00:25:58.540 And he turned and he looked at George W. Bush
00:26:00.760 And he said to his son
00:26:01.720 I really thought the war would carry us
00:26:05.000 And he was, you know, almost like tears in his eyes
00:26:08.220 And it didn't
00:26:10.060 And to anybody who was an objective observer of that election, for somebody to say that, being the presidential ticket, being the presidential candidate, not remembering that you looked at your watch like you had other better things to do during the debate and people were worried about how they were going to deal with the economy, 7% unemployment back then, prices were rising back then.
00:26:31.800 What did Bill Clinton talk about?
00:26:33.880 I feel your pain.
00:26:35.940 What did James Carville famously say in that year?
00:26:38.200 it's all which is exactly what abdul say is up there saying this is come on what are we doing
00:26:43.720 are we incapable of learning our own lessons i gotta tell you guys i really feel like a lot of
00:26:49.540 the right right now is putting themselves in this safe space like i said before like the left wanted
00:26:54.640 to do in the trump era and you did you don't want to acknowledge that those grievances are real
00:26:59.440 real quick before we gotta go sound yeah it's burn it down jack burn it down what the polls
00:27:04.880 show young americans really want go pre-order it on amazon thanks brother
00:27:09.500 thanks brother hey rich where you from you don't know gator right back human events daily
00:27:15.460 One communist on the faculty of one university is one communist too many.
00:27:45.440 Communist among the American advisors at Yalta was one communist to many.
00:27:54.560 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live human events daily.
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00:29:23.100 course the head pollster of the honest polling company mark mitchell what's going on mark
00:29:29.620 great to be back two pollsters in one day me and rich you can't well i think we need to because i
00:29:36.420 I feel like I feel like that there's there's a lot of information going around out there.
00:29:42.100 People are seeing the elections.
00:29:43.120 They're going, whoa, what's going on?
00:29:45.220 How are all these DSA candidates winning?
00:29:47.500 And guys like like Barris, guys like yourself, you have been saying all along you've been
00:29:52.940 sounding the alarm that this anti-establishment wave is coming.
00:29:57.860 Yeah, absolutely.
00:29:58.600 And people will call me a black pillar or doomer, but I've been saying the same stuff
00:30:02.080 for like a year and a half now, which is, hey, you guys forgot what you got elected for and you're
00:30:06.980 going to lose people. And are you going to lose everybody? No, you're going to keep the straight
00:30:10.180 ticket Republican voters. But the things that the Republicans don't want to acknowledge is that they
00:30:14.760 do not have the same coalition they had 30 or 40 years ago. They've got to get independents. They
00:30:19.580 got to get socialists. Actually, some socialists voted for Trump. And so if your strategy is going
00:30:24.920 to be to point the finger at the socialists and say socialists are bad, it's going to have like
00:30:29.240 limited returns. Like that's just what is going to happen. And so as Rich probably said with his
00:30:34.500 book, Burn It Down, there's an aspect of economic messaging that's just like completely wrong. Like
00:30:40.240 they are not going to win until they show that there is a better alternative to socialism that
00:30:45.340 the right can provide. And I don't think we have that right now. I think a lot of people thought
00:30:50.180 economic populist parts of MAGA was that. And we can argue about whether it's being implemented or
00:30:56.000 not. But what's not happening is we don't see a coherent, unified message on the economy between
00:31:01.860 Republicans and Trump. And it's been hurting him for a very long time. He's said some quotes that
00:31:07.680 are going to come back and bite him when they start running ads in the fall. And you can't
00:31:11.920 make those go away. You needed really single-minded laser focus on this economic, I think, warfare.
00:31:19.400 And I think what we're seeing is that in 2016, Trump was a little bit more of a peacetime
00:31:23.340 president and what America needed after the Biden inflation, after the economic crisis and the wage
00:31:29.880 suppression and all the stuff that we've been through economically, they need a wartime president
00:31:34.500 and a wartime president has to signal confidence on like the main mission, which is fighting the
00:31:40.520 enemy. Let me, let me, let me just, you know, I'll say when you say wartime president and, and,
00:31:44.900 and, and when I say, when you say wartime president, you're talking about the war at home
00:31:50.240 And the war should be the socialist revolution that is currently going on in the United States.
00:31:59.000 And it is being driven because people feel that their expectations are not being met.
00:32:07.560 It's really what it comes down to and specifically on the economic front.
00:32:12.420 And people can throw data and charts and say, oh, well, there's this and this one and that and this is better and that one's better.
00:32:18.820 and it's like, look, people want to feel that relief. They want to feel the relief that was
00:32:23.840 promised after the Biden years and they're not feeling it. Then they go to the gas pump and I
00:32:28.980 just posted the gas price up and I said what I said. And, you know, the people could say, oh,
00:32:34.240 I'm upset about I'm upset about it. Right. I don't think it's great. But it's certainly obviously not
00:32:38.880 something you want when you go into an election year. But guess what? If you're in office,
00:32:43.640 You need to deal with this or, right, the Republicans are running for reelection in the Senate, running for election in the Senate.
00:32:50.740 The Republicans are running for reelection in the House.
00:32:52.400 They are all going to be asked this question.
00:32:54.320 And you can't sit there and just say, oh, Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden.
00:32:58.100 That's what's at stake in this election.
00:33:00.400 And if you don't do that, we will get socialists like Abdul El-Sayed in office who are saying they want to defund the police and abolish ICE.
00:33:10.100 I mean, excellent.
00:33:11.360 that's exactly exactly the situation if republicans can't propose a pragmatic credible alternative
00:33:17.740 which i think should be national populism to socialism then we are going to be socialists
00:33:23.060 because it is winning with boy they got that by by i said that last week on a podcast man
00:33:27.760 and they got the neocons got pretty upset with me for simply saying that we need to be nationalist
00:33:33.420 populist which i'm like i'm sorry i thought we've been saying that since 2015 and the guy came down
00:33:37.840 the escalator. Yeah, a nationalist is a dirty word now. You know what I mean? And there's like
00:33:43.720 a real big fight there, obviously, to maintain an establishment status quo. We're seeing it on
00:33:48.560 both sides. We're actually seeing the exact same thing over the exact same issues play out on both
00:33:53.700 the Democrat and the Republican side, which again means, in my opinion, there's a huge opportunity
00:33:58.860 for a political horseshoe effect, which the Republicans should be on the playing field
00:34:03.840 because they captured the youth with Trump. They won this. And now they're ceding territory
00:34:09.760 because they're losing this war that you're talking about, this domestic war. Now, the way
00:34:15.760 that you're right, it's war against socialism. It is absolutely war against socialism. But the way
00:34:20.980 you fight that war isn't by blowing up socialism. You have to fight that war by making voters be
00:34:28.000 convinced that by voting for you, they get something they want more. Because people will
00:34:33.040 say, well, socialism, you're going to wind up in a ditch. You're going to pull a bullet in your 0.99
00:34:36.380 head. Somebody is going to knock on your door. There's going to be scarcity or whatever, right? 1.00
00:34:40.900 And these are all very valid concerns. But people don't feel that now. They feel an inability to
00:34:45.980 live in modern day America the way that they feel like they should, the American dream, right?
00:34:51.480 So how do you give them an alternative? Saying the status quo is great is not going to be fighting
00:34:58.460 that war. It needs to be like a believable plan. And again, like MAGA was great. I think it was
00:35:04.880 like the good opening salvo of this battle, but where's the plan? Like, where is the, where are
00:35:11.540 the supply lines for this fight? Where are the think tanks that are forming national populist
00:35:17.260 agendas? Where's the project 2028, like 29, whatever. Like, and again, you're going to have
00:35:25.060 to make a leap of faith. You're going to have to make a leap of faith, Republicans. Yes,
00:35:30.620 boomer politics are pretty much still ruling the party, but the math is the math. And it's going to
00:35:37.460 go the other way. And I think you're going to see it because these younger people, like Rich
00:35:41.740 probably talked about, are not very idealistic. And you can try and teach them more about socialism
00:35:46.920 and maybe they'll listen and maybe they won't. But at the end of the day, if they vote for the
00:35:50.360 socialist, they think they're voting for somebody that's going to give them something. And you know
00:35:54.800 what? They're kind of right. If a socialist gets into office, you're going to see Medicare for all
00:35:59.160 you're going to see, you know, the paid for childcare plans. You're going to see that stuff.
00:36:04.040 Will it destroy the treasury? Yeah, of course, but they're going to get something. And right now
00:36:08.600 in the current system, they're not getting anything. And we know this because the people
00:36:14.060 that voted for Trump in 2016 kind of thought he was going to blow up the Republican party and turn
00:36:19.340 them into this. And I think the people that are bouncing, like you said, are people who are like,
00:36:23.620 well, it never, like, what are we doing here, guys? You know what I mean? And again, like,
00:36:28.940 you know, the political capital, me and Rich have been talking about this for a year,
00:36:33.220 year and a half. It's gone. And it was like, hey, you're going to lose the political capital.
00:36:37.020 You're losing the political capital. It's gone now. And on the gas price thing, again,
00:36:42.160 can Americans stomach an increase of a dollar in gas? Sure, 100%. But it's symbolic. It's a
00:36:48.600 political football that the Republicans will very transparently say, well, look, we brought gas
00:36:55.020 prices down a buck. What's the problem? Well, it's like we shouldn't even be talking about gas prices.
00:36:59.880 We should be talking about how wages are up 10% because we got rid of 10 million foreigners. 1.00
00:37:04.120 Like that's what we should be talking about. And I know that that's asking a lot, but again, 1.00
00:37:08.940 it comes back to a vision of the future. You don't have to deliver the golden age today.
00:37:13.860 Nobody expects that, but they need to see that you're fighting that war. That's the end of the
00:37:18.200 war. We defeat socialism. When you give us a golden age, the golden age means a revitalized
00:37:24.720 American middle-class. So if you're going to run on something, Republicans, how are you going to
00:37:29.920 rebuild the middle-class? That's, that should be everything they talk about. Every single thing
00:37:33.560 they talk about. Instead it's communism. Every day. Every single day. And, and, and there's a
00:37:40.060 way, and by the way, I, you know, I wrote a book two years ago that, that lays out quite a bit of
00:37:45.940 how to crush communist revolutions and it may just be time to revisit the unhumans book because
00:37:54.240 there's a whole chapter in there and i think i think i might need to flesh that out where we
00:37:58.280 talk about specifically this that you must embrace national populism and if you do not embrace
00:38:04.340 nationalist populism you don't embrace maga what the maga actually means then you are going to get
00:38:11.180 Mangione. You're going to get Mondami. You're going to get Abdul L. Syed, who hates white
00:38:18.140 people. Apparently, it's really mad. You don't pronounce his name. Correct. Right back. 0.99
00:38:30.080 We're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently,
00:38:34.200 I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack
00:38:38.260 episodic and that that is i'll be honest
00:38:40.960 all right folks absolutely back live human events daily real america's voice you know i watched you
00:38:49.940 know that um that speech that was given by the democrat senate candidate out there in michigan
00:38:58.340 and i saw him and he said he said these these republicans they're running all these they're
00:39:05.280 running all these ads against me and they can't even say my name right and if you can't say my 1.00
00:39:11.580 name right get it out of your darn mouth get it out of my darn mouth if you can't say my name 1.00
00:39:15.740 right really simple see simple as that simple as that my gosh these guys absolute clown show 1.00
00:39:26.320 it's the star wars cantina folks it's it's literally just the star wars cantina let's get
00:39:30.980 back to mark mitchell here mark so so that being said now i i do by the way one of the things that
00:39:37.380 we we talk about in the book is mock these people they try to act so serious just literally mock
00:39:42.640 them to their face actually because they can't take it and it drives them crazier um so so if
00:39:48.280 you really want to like tweak them you know we say mockery is um is the bane of their existence when
00:39:53.460 it comes to leftists but but one of the other things that we say very clearly is you have to
00:39:58.900 undercut their messages, because what they're doing is they're addressing real concerns from
00:40:05.420 voters. And if you're not addressing those concerns, then the voters are not going to
00:40:09.620 listen. They're going to tune you out. I've been saying that for, yes, 100%. If they get one of
00:40:15.940 these guys into office, we will see a $10 trillion housing bill. And you know what? The younger
00:40:20.480 people will get something. They will get money for a down payment or something. And they're not
00:40:25.380 really thinking long-term because, again, when people say kitchen table and economic issues,
00:40:31.080 when they say affordability crisis, and right now, I mean, it's just sad the extent to which
00:40:34.980 the Republicans have conflated this into a fight over whether a burrito should cost $20 or not.
00:40:40.520 This is not really about inflation. It's not about Biden's inflation. That was the cherry
00:40:45.280 on top of a rotten system that has suppressed wages and concentrated wealth, and both parties
00:40:51.480 are in on it. That's the crazy thing is that the establishment Democrat wing that tried to keep
00:40:55.540 Syed from winning is super corporatist. They, you know what I mean? Like they, it's two sides of the
00:41:01.460 same coin, right? And so yes, we have this ideological problem, but it's being created
00:41:06.440 by an establishment on both the right and left that should be looking out for the voter. And
00:41:12.000 what my message has been is that the Republican party should be the mature side that acknowledges
00:41:17.340 that and fixes it because it's the side with principles it's the side that believes in our
00:41:22.240 founding principles it's the side that should be more christian and and religious it's the side
00:41:27.620 that should have the moral authority here and you know it's like where are we right it's like we're
00:41:33.300 just is corporatist i think in many ways and whether we are or not we do things that make
00:41:40.260 that the perception and it's like don't talk exactly and that's that's why you know that's
00:41:46.380 why i uh i said what i said you know last week and you know i i stand by that when when they say
00:41:52.820 if this is the system of capitalism today then i'm not a capitalist how can i be a capitalist
00:41:57.800 in today's system i'm a nationalist populist i'm a nationalist populist because that is the system
00:42:03.920 that i'm fighting for that's the system that i've been fighting for since day one in this movement
00:42:09.880 that's the system and and yeah and i've given speeches at cpac saying that we need to focus
00:42:14.960 on trade and immigration. Trade and immigration. These are the two main issues that separate
00:42:19.240 Donald Trump and a Donald Trump voter from the old right, from the Mitt Romneys and the George
00:42:25.080 W. Bushes and the John McCain's and the Paul Ryan's. These were the people who lost with the
00:42:30.800 working class. They couldn't possibly get elected in Pennsylvania or Ohio or Michigan or Wisconsin.
00:42:36.200 And now a lot of those Rust Belt voters, by the way, are down in the Sun Belt. So you're going to
00:42:39.640 need a lot more of them to be able to help you out to get across the board. And I just, I really
00:42:46.620 wish that I would see these candidates actually start to understand that. Well, we need a nuanced
00:42:51.660 understanding of capitalism and somebody has to do that work. And I don't know who is going to be
00:42:57.260 the banner, the standard bearer for that, but this is not capitalism. It doesn't work for anybody
00:43:02.560 anymore. The wealth concentration is off the chart, the rent seeking and all this other stuff.
00:43:07.520 And the problem is, is that most people think that we have capitalism in the Republican Party and they will defend it fiercely by calling any change to the status quo socialist.
00:43:17.800 Now, I'm not saying we should be socialist. I'm not saying we should stop laughing at socialists.
00:43:22.220 I'm saying that we need the maturity to specifically lay out exactly what parts of our current capital system are not working.
00:43:29.040 And by the way, like I'll throw this out right away, that the very first thing that we should be focusing on is is borders.
00:43:35.900 And the number very second thing we should be focusing on is the Fed.
00:43:39.360 If you go and look at what the Federal Reserve has been doing for all these years, then you
00:43:44.100 would know right away that we have a kind of zombie capitalism as our current system.
00:43:48.880 This is not actual free market enterprise.
00:43:51.640 And if you're going to sit there and say, oh, everything's great about the system and
00:43:54.840 just talk around the Federal Reserve, then honestly, like you're kind of just a joke.
00:43:59.620 I don't even know how to explain anything to you because they have been providing quantitative
00:44:03.480 easing to their buddies on wall street and their buddies in the financial institutions since 2008
00:44:08.600 and that's why since 2008 as i said if anyone actually listened to my comments in uh uh that
00:44:14.780 clip last week that we have had a k-shaped economy for the last 20 years yeah it's longer than that
00:44:20.900 in many ways it's the asset class we have an asset class they're powerful they keep the republican
00:44:25.660 Party establishment in power. Now, I would present one additional enemy, which is very useful and
00:44:33.580 which the voters, I think, want to see anger, retribution taken out on. And it's a problematic
00:44:39.560 area for the current Republican regime, and that is large corporations. And so we have a large
00:44:45.880 corporation problem. Well, yeah, and I throw that in with kind of, you know, those are the people
00:44:51.320 who are bringing in the H-1Bs, those are the people who are fighting us on the border. They're 0.99
00:44:54.620 the ones who are fighting us on tariffs they're the ones who have got us stuck in with china and 0.96
00:44:59.060 you know it was really by kind of pulling thread on china that i came up against this problem as
00:45:03.800 as well in the very first place and i remember that's who was fighting donald trump all the way
00:45:08.360 back in the 2015 excuse me 2016 primaries mark where can people go to follow you uh the honest
00:45:15.140 poll.com come check it out it's my new outfit and also on twitter at honest pollster so new
00:45:21.400 independent outlet. We're going to do basically just polling for the people, public sentiment
00:45:25.960 work. And I'm not going to be beholden to anybody. We're taking checks from any political party.
00:45:31.720 All right. Check them out, folks. All right. I want to go now to President Trump. It will be
00:45:36.400 speaking in Red Rock Resort on the outskirts of Las Vegas very shortly to promoting working family
00:45:43.320 tax cuts. So right right as we were talking about something that they can show directly to the
00:45:48.900 people. That's what President Trump is going to be touting. And our own Ben Burkwam is on the
00:45:52.760 scene. Ben, how are you? What's up, brother? No, you're absolutely right, man. It's all about
00:45:57.920 service economy out here and no tax on tips, no tax on overtime and no tax on Social Security.
00:46:04.180 So that's the message out here, getting back to the economy like you were just talking about.
00:46:10.400 A hundred percent. What are you hearing from people out there, Ben?
00:46:13.060 You know, I was out talking to the crowd out there, and the crowd is filling in here where,
00:46:19.580 as you mentioned, in Red Rock Casino. And it's very clear the people get it, especially here
00:46:24.420 in Las Vegas. They've seen a direct result. President Trump's tax cut in that first year,
00:46:30.160 the largest tax cut for working class Americans in American history. When you come out here and
00:46:35.000 you talk to the people that are servers, that work in the restaurants, that work in the casinos,
00:46:38.620 work all over the valley here, they all get it. They've had a bump in their paycheck.
00:46:42.560 One of the guys I talked to said his tax return or the amount he paid in taxes went down by 50%.
00:46:51.040 And so when you talk about an impact to you directly, these guys, they love President Trump.
00:46:56.360 And what's crazy is this is actually where that idea came from, no tax on tips.
00:46:59.780 It was a service worker came up to President Trump, met him and said, hey, could you stop taxing tips?
00:47:05.160 Could you make part of your campaign?
00:47:06.920 This was when he was running again in 2024.
00:47:09.280 Could you make part of the campaign no tax on tips?
00:47:11.640 And he said, I like that.
00:47:12.580 Let's do that.
00:47:13.220 That's what President Trump is.
00:47:14.260 He's a pragmatic guy.
00:47:15.580 He gets, you know, here's a good idea.
00:47:17.120 And he says, why haven't we done that before?
00:47:19.920 Las Vegas is a direct result of that.
00:47:22.100 It's where it was inspired.
00:47:23.520 And it's also where they're feeling it the most.
00:47:27.700 Well, that's absolutely great.
00:47:29.400 So are people seeing that?
00:47:30.800 Are they seeing that kick in then on the, you know,
00:47:33.620 where they're doing their tax returns, getting refunds, all that?
00:47:38.180 100%.
00:47:38.580 100%.
00:47:39.580 Everyone I spoke to that's in the service economy that relies on tips for their wages or on overtime for their wages
00:47:45.180 says it's had a direct result in their paychecks and their take-home money since it went into law.
00:47:51.780 And so it's made a huge impact.
00:47:54.040 And again, it's one of those things when you get distracted by the other things that the left or other people want us to get distracted by,
00:48:00.940 we forget all the good stuff President Trump has done.
00:48:03.160 100 percent and important to make sure to remind people that in a midterm year providing relief
00:48:10.440 for workers that's ben berkman we're going to go back to him of course real america's voice
00:48:14.280 we'll be covering that as president trump is set to speak very soon as for me ladies and
00:48:18.300 gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay ashore