00:17:41.540and the social and political effects of mass immigration have been disregarded they've been
00:17:47.620illegitimate you haven't been allowed to speak out you've been subject to censure you know people
00:17:52.780have even been sent to prison um but it does look like things are changing jack i mean i this is this0.67
00:17:58.660is such an horrific case and people are so fed up with uh the terrible terrible mess that has been0.63
00:18:05.340made of britain by mass immigration policies of mass immigration over a period of almost 30 years0.98
00:18:10.860now. So, yeah, I mean, there's absolutely no reason not to believe this is going to be a
00:18:15.540significant turning point. No, I couldn't agree more that what we've seen is sparking ramifications
00:18:24.720and sending shockwaves really across the political system. J.D. Vance, by the way, has just posted
00:18:29.700a very long tweet about Henry Novak. We're seeing, again, even the fact that the UK deputy
00:18:38.380prime minister is being asked about something like this. The Overton window, as it's as it is,
00:18:44.720where these issues just four or five years ago weren't able to be spoken of. Now, we even have
00:18:51.220mainstream media calling deputy prime ministers to account on this. The vice president of the
00:18:57.300United States is speaking out, also a sort of deputy prime minister in a sense. So, you know,
00:19:02.100This has really turned the page on all of this.
00:19:06.780I believe it's a tipping point, and I believe it's something that can get us back to, look, if we're going to have a just society, if we're going to have a righteous society, we ought to be a colorblind society where the same standards are applied to everyone and all, regardless of your characteristics.
00:20:50.380I want to bring Dr. Charles Cornish Dale back on here.
00:20:53.400We're talking more about the shockwaves of the Henry Novak case.
00:20:58.620And I also wanted to point out that the United States State Department also put out a tweet earlier today directly targeting the British government.
00:21:10.980And they said ideological conditioning and two tier policing are glaring symptoms of civilizational decline.
00:21:18.000They must be rejected across the West.
00:21:20.300The United States sends our condolences to the family of Henry Novak and the people of the United Kingdom at this troubling time.
00:21:27.600That's an official release from the Department of State of the US. And of course, we remember the response to the George Floyd death. We remember the way that the UK responded. Many foreign governments responded. Many folks on the left responded. And yet you're not seeing this because this is an example of, again, that two-tier policing.
00:21:47.180So I want to get, Dr. Charles, your comment on this, that it seems, as you say, these policies that are erected in the name of anti-racism actually in function only turn out to be anti-white.0.60
00:22:03.660And in fact, there are racial judgments and racial measurements and racial qualifications that are always employed as long as they are employed against whites.
00:22:16.180So in actuality, they haven't been anti-racist at all.
00:22:20.780No, quite. And I mean, this is a this is a fairly standard point that's actually been hugely controversial for a long period of time, you know, pointing out actually anti-racists are perhaps, you know, the most racist people of all.
00:22:36.940They're certainly as racist as any, you know, sort of boogeyman white supremacist that you might want to point to.
00:22:43.640But actually, that's been that's been beyond the pale.
00:22:46.580It's been beyond the pale to say, you know what, actually, these policies that are supposed to enshrine equality for all and equal justice.
00:22:55.920Actually, you know what, that's not what it's about.
00:22:58.500It's actually about dispossessing, disenfranchising the white majority, taking revenge upon them, allowing hideous crimes to be perpetrated against them.
00:23:11.080You know, you only need to look at it in the case of the US at the Community Relations Service, this Department of Justice subunit that was established specifically to cover up anti-white crimes, violent crimes, rapes and murders in particular.0.87
00:23:27.300you know a white man is is kicked to death by a gang of somalis in a small town in maine0.83
00:23:34.020uh it's there's an obvious racial motive the crs jumps into life um you know comes to the scene0.91
00:23:41.680tells the family members no you know you've got to speak out and say this isn't a racist murder
00:23:46.520you've got to call for calm we're going to sort of cover this up and the the perpetrators they're
00:23:51.080not going to get a heavy police sentence they're not going to get a heavy jail sentence um you know
00:23:55.640anti-racism yes is a racist phenomenon it is a racist morality it's a racist value system
00:24:04.620because it privileges certain groups over others on the basis of their skin color it is that simple
00:24:11.340but it's been too controversial to say that for you know for years and years and years but only
00:24:16.100now as we see you know the the the dire effects of um demographic change as the contradictions
00:24:24.540mount and it becomes almost impossible now or it actually does become impossible now to um uh
00:24:32.220deny that there is a two-tier system that there is unequal justice in britain and in other western
00:24:38.720countries um then the overton window has shifted popular sentiment has shifted and it is and it is
00:24:46.700like you say it's an amazing thing really for the state department to put out a tweet like that for
00:24:53.720JD Vance, the Vice President of the United States, to put out a tweet like that. But I think
00:24:58.780actually, patriots in the UK should be very, very encouraged by these tweets. You actually do have
00:25:06.540the support of the US government. The US government supports you in your fight against
00:25:12.300the negative effects of demographic change, against the liberal authoritarianism that is
00:25:18.740the handmaiden of demographic change so um yeah think things really are changing jack things
00:25:24.980really are changing well and you hear people all again and again say oh you know why do we support
00:25:32.660mass immigration it's that not that we we like immigrants it's because we hate americans or we
00:25:37.900hate british that we want the spLC again used to have a guy in the back office one of his officials
00:25:44.140and he kept metrics of the declining white population percentage of the United States of
00:25:49.700America. This is my point. They use these fancy and flowery terms as a smokescreen for what it0.97
00:25:56.620really is that they're driving for, is that they want there to be this two-tier system.
00:26:01.600In fact, it's always been a two-tier system rather than the simple colorblind, everyone is
00:26:08.000held to the same tier system, which is how we used to run things in the West. And oh, by the way,
00:26:12.640how western civilization came to be the greatest civilization on the face of the earth last minute
00:26:17.860to you dr charles yeah well quite well that would i think that would be a true anti-racist um system
00:26:25.220wouldn't it that is the anti-racist system the colorblind meritocracy where people succeed on
00:26:31.540the basis of their character and their abilities rather than receiving you know uh a helping hand
00:26:37.980from the state, prejudicial laws, two-tier policing that actually force the white majority
00:26:45.280into a position of second-class citizens in their own nation. And as you say, I think the best thing0.90
00:26:53.560that can be done is to return to that system. And certainly, at least in the UK, you know,
00:26:59.280you have reform, Nigel Farage, you have other right-wing parties restore. And that's exactly
00:27:04.200what they want to do the movement is growing and growing dr charles uh what again is your
00:27:09.460twitter handle for folks my twitter handle is baby gravy nine i am the raw egg nationalist on
00:27:15.720twitter my goodness go give him a follow folks if you dare we'll be right back
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00:29:57.300So what we found is that in 2025, Pope Leo had a private audience with members of what
00:30:06.580was called the World Meeting of Popular Movements.
00:30:08.740This was the fifth of these meetings that took place under the auspices of the Vatican
00:30:13.800since 2014. Pope Francis was in charge for four of them, and Pope Leo for the first time
00:30:19.900was in charge of this one. And the thing is, the World Meeting of Popular Movements,
00:30:24.300it's a gathering of actual communist organizations. They call themselves popular
00:30:28.960movements, but really they are Karl Marx praising communists. And they get together,
00:30:36.860they start talking about, well, how can we collaborate with the church? How can we
00:30:40.240work with local governments to try and expand our design or desires for the way civilization
00:30:47.880ought to be. And Pope Leo, in his private audience with this group, which was held in the Vatican,
00:30:54.660the meetings were held off site. But in his meetings or in his private audience with this
00:30:59.800group, he called them social poets. He called them champions of virtue and champions of justice
00:31:05.120and champions of humanity. And they are none of these things. These are actual communists and
00:31:10.480they're promoting abortion. They're promoting LGBT stuff. So that's, in a nutshell, what we1.00
00:31:16.680discovered. So you're looking at these things that are being promoted and we see the president
00:31:24.380coming out. And by the way, I'm somebody who, I'm a Catholic. I consider myself a traditional
00:31:30.400Catholic in the sense of a, you know, cradle Catholic and, uh, you know, not, not in the,
00:31:35.920you know, sort of online, uh, I'm a trad cath kind of sense, but no, I mean, in the, in the
00:31:40.900fact that I, I raised my children to be Catholic, that we say grace before meals, that we say the
00:31:46.720rosary together, that we, uh, that we go to church every week. This is our life. This is our lifestyle.
00:31:54.840We, and we're Polish, so it can pretty much only come in one flavor, um, when it comes to that,
00:31:59.200But it's it's it's what we've been doing as a family and as a faith tradition for over a thousand years.
00:32:05.960And when you look at some of these things that the current pope is pushing, they don't seem to be in line with those traditions.
00:32:13.000No, they certainly don't. I mean, the the the whole world meeting of popular movements was put together under the dicastery for integral human development.
00:32:21.820And one of the things people have to understand, this isn't something that was incidentally kind of tossed together and then presented to the new pope, because just shortly before the World Meeting of Popular Movements, he published his very first apostolic letter.
00:32:38.160It's called An Apostolic Exhortation, and the title of it was Delexite.
00:32:41.620And it's supposed to be on love and service to the poor and that kind of stuff, but he dedicated two paragraphs of this document to popular movements.
00:32:49.700and he even acknowledged that there were certain problems with these groups he said
00:32:53.700there have been and still are various popular movements made up of lay people and led by
00:32:59.720popular leaders who have been viewed with suspicion and even persecuted okay i've got to
00:33:07.580put this in context because they've been viewed with suspicion because they are actual communists
00:33:12.160we have video of them reciting the communist manifesto we have them marching through the
00:33:17.620streets with hammer and sickle flags. Okay. This, this is not like your pot smoking garden variety
00:33:22.380college student. This is, this is a real communist entity. So he says they've been viewed with
00:33:27.340suspicion. Well, that's why. And he says, and they've even been persecuted. Well, there's no
00:33:31.340persecution when it comes to criminal enterprises like these communist groups. So for him to say
00:33:36.900such things about these organizations kind of gives a, I don't know if he wrote that part of
00:33:43.460the encyclical himself, but it certainly doesn't look good. And for him to say the things,
00:33:49.820calling them social poets, calling them champions of humanity at his private audience gives kind of
00:33:56.620an insight into what he thinks about these popular movements. And it's not a good thing,
00:34:00.840but we're seeing consistently that there is a Marxist infiltration at deep levels within the
00:34:06.400Vatican. And for Donald Trump to recognize this and to acknowledge this when he was going back
00:34:12.300and forth with some of the stuff going on with Pope Leo. And he said he's surrounded by, by
00:34:16.700Marxists. He's right because he is surrounded by Marxists. You know, and, and this is, this is a
00:34:24.760huge issue because look, I was there when, um, Pope Leo, uh, the conclave, you know, where he
00:34:31.020was, where he was, uh, chosen. I was there in Vatican square when, um, Vatican city, when,
00:34:38.860St. Peter's Square when the white smoke came out for Pope Leo. And of course, just mentioned
00:34:47.280before, as a guy of Polish descent, we've all been hoping for another John Paul II who was an
00:34:55.520ardent and strident anti-communist. Bolton Sheen, who is on his way to canonization, he'll have his
00:35:02.480beatification later this year and then on his way to canonization, was a strident anti-communist.
00:35:08.300And so it's confusing for the laity at the very minimum to see people like this invited
00:38:53.920you are the guest in today's question of the day will the murder of henry novak be a tipping point
00:39:00.960our email is always 1776 at human events.com 1776 at human events.com we've got a number
00:39:08.840of emails in this one in from elizabeth in florida hi jack i do think this is the tipping
00:39:14.860point believe it or not there was a time back in the early 2000s where people were very proud of
00:39:19.180their english heritage and history i think seeing an innocent man murdered because he's white
00:39:23.540then watch an innocent murder victim handcuffed while he lays dying of an unprovoked stabbing
00:39:28.740attack has woken up the sleeping giant. Tommy Robinson is no longer considered far right.
00:39:34.060The advancement of the reform party and information that came out about the grooming
00:39:38.260rape gangs coming out recently, people have had it. No, I couldn't agree more.
00:39:44.300This one in from Janet. Yes, it's already a tipping point. A horrendous,
00:39:48.080savage crime the british police attitude against white men is so obvious this one is in from
00:39:55.620kitty and uh okay she says go ahead and use my my first name and then she's got she says she's a
00:40:02.280proud american she says she doesn't think that it will be a tipping point it should be a tipping
00:40:07.400point and absolutely a gazillion incidents ago should have been but after seeing what people
00:40:11.280are willing to tolerate during the china virus left me feeling that there is no rise up and fight
00:40:15.900left in our DNA, meaning USA and other countries, and it terrifies me. I'd love to see people in
00:40:25.320these countries start denouncing these commie, soulless unhumans, but people's instinct to1.00
00:40:31.120survive the moment seems to negate the instinct to fight for a better tomorrow. The unhumans have1.00
00:40:35.880infiltrated every aspect of most countries' institutions, agencies, systems, which makes1.00
00:40:40.500the collective monster seem unbeatable. Good must defeat evil, though. I certainly agree with that,
00:40:45.080and I agree it will. And hopefully us doing it chip by chip will make enough headway to do just
00:40:50.080that in the long run. So in summary, no tipping point will be achieved, but all hope isn't lost
00:40:54.720either. Well, I, I see what, I see what you're saying, but I would submit this, that it, there
00:41:01.580are, there are moments that become tipping points. George Floyd was a tipping point in many ways in
00:41:07.2602020. It really was, it was a watershed moment, but at the same time, you know, I think, you know,
00:41:12.860today, for example, is actually the 14th anniversary of turning point USA. And when
00:41:19.300Charlie started turning point 14 years ago, you know, he 2012, he didn't know that it would turn
00:41:27.460into this massive organization. He didn't know that there would be a Donald Trump, that there
00:41:33.880would be three houses of government, um, uh, you know, the president, the house and the Senate
00:41:37.980that would turn over so many governor's races. You can go look at the Democrat autopsy the other
00:41:42.160today, we were talking about that with Jonathan Alpert, that it would be so successful because
00:41:47.240in that moment, it looked like the Democrats have won anything. And I remember Democrats saying that
00:41:52.300the Republicans would be relegated to a regional party back then. But Charlie said, no, he said,
00:41:58.580I think there's going to be a chance to push forward. And he saw that he had the vision.
00:42:04.440Look where we are today. So I agree with you that it, you know, it doesn't mean it's going to,
00:42:10.420the fight's going to be over, that it's total victory. Absolutely. Obviously. But I would also
00:42:16.760say that when you look at it from the perspective of where we were in 2012 as a country, as a
00:42:22.760movement, as a people to where we are today, things are getting better. Is there friction? Yes.
00:42:28.940But change always comes with friction, right? That's required. You will not have or achieve
00:42:35.760any meaningful change in your personal life, your business life, your scholastic life if you're in
00:42:41.960school, or your relationships, your romantic life. You won't have any change without those friction
00:42:50.460points. And I get what you're saying about how people just want to get through the moment. I
00:42:53.760totally get that. Because we all feel that, right? Oh, it'd be easier to just kind of let bygones
00:42:58.820be bygones. It'd be easier not to say anything, not be confrontational. I'm from the Philly area,
00:43:05.160so you know we don't have that but but i get it right i do understand that other people have that
00:43:10.240and we've gotten too complacent too comfortable too fat and happy and then you see something
00:43:18.640like this on the news and you think hey wait a minute that could be my kid that could be any of
00:43:25.780our kids we can't have a two-tier system anymore and we certainly can't have a two-tier system
00:43:32.140based on number one political or or you know elitism which we've talked about in the u.s
00:43:38.160but also we can't have two tiers when it comes to race either one set of laws for white people
00:43:44.960and one set for everyone else no doesn't work it's not gonna work and and in fact that would
00:43:49.360tear this country apart it would tear any country apart can't have it you know great comment though
00:43:55.060great uh this one come in from paisano if the uh he's saying that look you know the british police
00:44:01.440are they're going to work every day and they have to remember that they're on video and this is
00:44:06.240going to happen and that means a tipping point will have been reached otherwise the brits will
00:44:11.060still be arrested and jailed for social media posts this one in from chuck finley he says no
00:44:18.100he says he thinks that the brits will forget about this as as soon as it comes in as soon as0.62
00:44:25.380it's tea time or time to head to the pub while they keep killing and unfortunately the rape gangs0.99
00:44:30.780keep raping. I don't know if I agree with that. I think this is going to be remembered. I think0.99
00:44:35.020this is going to be remembered. Something about this one from Oh Right Mate. They are going to
00:44:42.000bring in digital IDs so British people who express any opinions online can be arrested or jailed.
00:44:47.800There's no ability for it to be a tipping point when speaking out will result in prison. And
00:44:53.680that's a true statement. That's a very true statement. We do have to watch out for that,
00:44:57.720of course uh let's see what else do we have here dr chloe carmichael actually writes in a great1.00
00:45:02.640guest let's see if we get her on next week she says the healthy function of anger is to strengthen
00:45:08.040boundaries amazing just absolutely amazing this one in from at second amendment he actually has
00:45:14.380the account at second amendment have great handle it should be but i fear the uk is too far gone i
00:45:19.920hope they prove me wrong mr maga miguel the uk is tipping novak is positive it's unfortunate but
00:45:26.900necessary i hope i'm right uk can't fall more eric retired united states marine corps not a
00:45:32.900foreign marine because there's no such thing as a foreign marine if multiple assassinations were
00:45:37.080not there may never be a point of return for liberals too far gone well that's an interesting
00:45:43.560uh interesting point mike brown two events post charlie henry the number one the anthony burdick0.97
00:45:50.300convicted uh if he's convicted we we will see black people blow up if he's let off white people0.61
00:45:59.500blow up something needs to change both countries are on the verge of revolution i don't care for0.99
00:46:03.920chud he should be able to bond out it feels like we have a two-tier system and this is kind of what
00:46:08.280i'm getting at right this is what i'm getting at is that you look at the carmelo anthony i know i
00:46:12.900haven't talked about a ton on uh on air here and everyone wants to read that as a racial incident
00:46:20.060Oh, you know, it's a black guy. So I have the white kid. So obviously on the face of it, sure, it's it's racial. But when it comes to the law, when it comes to the law, the law should be applied equally. Right. Who was the provoker? Who was the instigator? Was it self-defense? Was it not self-defense and the same standards and the same rules and the same adjudications that we applied to the Kyle Rittenhouse situation should also apply here.
00:46:46.380And interestingly enough, it turns out that if you don't even remember this, that Jacob Blake Jr. was the black man who came at officers with a knife in Kenosha, and that led to the Kenosha riots, which led to Kyle Rittenhouse being forced to defend himself against those rioters.
00:47:08.580They were marauders who came largely from Chicago and he defended himself using lethal