Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 02, 2026


The BACKLASH: THE OLD GOP LOSES THEIR MINDS AT JD VANCE INTERVIEW

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I'm excited to let you know that finally the new edition of Unhuman
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00:00:23.720 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:30.000 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:39.400 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:42.420 Christ is king.
00:00:44.080 President Trump kicking off a month of intense midterm campaigning.
00:00:47.780 My heart is in it like never before.
00:00:49.640 The president hoping to drive up Republican turnout, kicking things off in red states, Oklahoma and Texas, defending his handling of the economy.
00:00:59.220 Now they're saying it again because we have the greatest numbers of any president in the
00:01:05.400 history of our country.
00:01:06.280 Russian President Vladimir Putin warns he will use all weapons in his arsenal to defend
00:01:10.980 the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad if it comes under attack, including nuclear weapons.
00:01:16.960 It comes after NATO drills nearby sparked concern in Moscow.
00:01:21.300 Mr. Putin said he has no plans to attack any nations in Europe, but vowed to respond to
00:01:26.440 any Western aggression as necessary.
00:01:28.540 A third U.S. aircraft carrier is heading to the Middle East along with thousands of troops as President Trump weighs new strikes on Iran.
00:01:36.360 While speaking to supporters in Texas, the president said Iran is ready to fold up, adding his belief that the U.S. will win the war right after the election.
00:01:45.340 Governor Kathy Hochul issuing an executive order appointing Attorney General Letitia James as special prosecutor in the Cornell sexual assault case.
00:01:53.380 the midair attack that nearly downed a flight to Israel carrying nearly 200 people. The pilot,
00:01:58.380 who was stabbed by his co-pilot, made his first public comments to India's prime minister this
00:02:02.940 morning. That pilot, who is Indian, described how he managed to open the cockpit door to allow
00:02:08.180 passengers and the crew to overwhelm his attacker and keep the plane in the air.
00:02:12.220 The judge rejecting Lindsay Clancy's lawyer's request for a not guilty verdict in her murder
00:02:18.980 trial. One holdout juror insisted on convicting the Massachusetts mom of killing her three
00:02:24.720 children, five-year-old Cora, three-year-old Dawson, and eight-month-old Callen. That led
00:02:30.760 to a mistrial, a hearing set for next month now on a possible new trial. Live on Real America's
00:02:39.460 voice. Today is October 2nd, 2026. Anno Domine. And folks, there is
00:02:48.920 an undeniable, there's an undeniable war on white people in the West. This is something 0.59
00:02:56.680 that's very clear. It's something that Charlie Kirk talked about at length. It's something that
00:03:03.420 a lot of us have pointed out over the years. And yesterday, the vice president here on this
00:03:08.900 program board air force two decided to talk about that discrimination that
00:03:18.740 oppression i suppose you could use as a word of the left but the way that society is totally and
00:03:28.300 utterly positioned against white people particularly young white men and oh boy oh boy
00:03:36.900 were there. A lot of conservatives did not like what the vice president had to say. So at this
00:03:44.060 point, the various clips of the interview have gone mega viral, been viewed over 10 million times
00:03:52.280 across the internet. It's being written up all over the world. And two huge things that the
00:03:59.280 vice president said, number one, ending the H-1Bs. He said he would support eliminating the H-1B 0.99
00:04:06.040 program. Number two, that the Trump administration needs to work to to end the discrimination against
00:04:13.780 white men. He said anti-white, anti-male discrimination in the West. He also mentioned,
00:04:20.120 by the way, that we need to dial back, dismantle 40 years of globalism.
00:04:28.580 Now, if you're upset about the economic conditions now, you have every right to be in. Boy, oh boy,
00:04:34.540 where there are conservatives who are very, very upset with us.
00:04:38.420 They did not like what the vice president had to say.
00:04:41.340 You had the Cato Institute coming out.
00:04:43.440 You had saying that how dare he talk about this.
00:04:46.240 You had people calling it socialism, which is very strange to me.
00:04:49.780 I want to understand this.
00:04:51.560 How is it, by the way, these guys who are saying that,
00:04:54.920 these guys saying that, oh, no, it's tariffs' fault.
00:04:59.260 It's all the fault of tariffs, you see. 0.98
00:05:00.940 It's all the fault of not getting the cheap Chinese dolls in. 1.00
00:05:04.200 That's that's what's driving this right now. And not the fact that we shipped all our jobs overseas and then imported workers into the United States like that as any kind of economic push on the American people. 0.99
00:05:16.700 No, I'm going to go ahead and say that that probably did have an effect.
00:05:23.920 Let's see what else we saw that we saw that even Mark Levin, Mark Levin was very upset with us yesterday.
00:05:32.320 And Mark, you know, just just I'm sorry, buddy.
00:05:35.420 I'm sorry, but you're going to have to get used to it because this is the way the people are moving these days.
00:05:40.620 Mark Beeson out there saying that, oh, my gosh, he said, oh, my gosh, there's no such thing as a $22 burrito.
00:05:47.840 And again, it's not about that. It's about people who care about those fellow Americans that we have in our country.
00:05:55.900 What else do we have? We have Frank Fleming. Oh, Frank Fleming.
00:06:00.420 Oh, just don't let me get the straight.
00:06:03.680 Just all just it's just just total crash out, just total crash out behavior.
00:06:07.400 But my personal favorite one comes from a man named Peter Laffin, who isn't laughing because he's very disturbed.
00:06:16.980 And he says that Jack Posobiec should not have this kind of access to power.
00:06:22.820 It's OK to be disturbed by this fact.
00:06:25.340 He's so upset.
00:06:26.720 He's so disturbed.
00:06:28.060 He's so worried.
00:06:29.660 His jumblies are getting all jumbly.
00:06:32.840 Well, guess what, ladies and gentlemen?
00:06:33.980 If you're disturbed by that, you better strap in because there's a whole lot more coming and it ain't stopping.
00:06:39.780 We've been doing this for 10 years and we're going to do it for 10 more.
00:06:42.520 We're going to do it for 50 more years.
00:06:44.040 We are going to keep going until we destroy every edifice that has been put in the way of making America great again and putting the American people first.
00:06:55.520 Right back with good friend Alan McCarty here on Human Events Daily.
00:06:59.320 Only Real America's Voice.
00:07:01.200 Stay tuned.
00:07:03.980 where's jack where is he jack i want to see you
00:07:16.860 great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always
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00:08:33.740 of this. We're looking at the insanity, the backlash to the J.D. Vance interview. I want
00:08:39.100 to bring on now my good buddy, Alan Bakari from the Foundation for Freedom Online. What's up,
00:08:46.040 Alan? Hey, Jack. Good to be on. Thank you so much for joining us. So Alan, just before we
00:08:52.600 get into your latest, I have to ask, why is it that you think that when J.D. Vance comes out
00:09:01.540 there and says that he wants to reform the H-1B program or possibly scrap it because he thinks
00:09:07.160 it's just totally broken, when he talks about the discrimination against white men in America
00:09:15.460 today, talks about economic conditions for young men, that these are pretty moderate opinions,
00:09:20.820 But suddenly, there's this massive backlash from the right.
00:09:24.740 What could be causing that?
00:09:26.720 You know, I think there are quite a few people in the right who have never been, who would
00:09:31.120 love to go back to the good old days of George W. Bush and Karl Rove and laissez-faire economics.
00:09:40.600 And when they didn't have to talk about these issues that increasingly matter to people.
00:09:44.380 I mean, you know, I've been, you know, as you know, I reported at Breitbart for almost
00:09:49.200 a decade. And we saw constant anti-white racism from the biggest corporations and institutions
00:09:55.480 in the United States. This is a major, major issue for people. And it hasn't really gone away.
00:10:01.020 And there are two prongs of that. There are, as you said, that's the immigration issue. And there's
00:10:04.560 the discrimination issue in leading institutions. And I think Harvey Dillon at DOJ has done a pretty
00:10:10.960 good job pushing back on that. There's, you know, completely outside what I do, which is online
00:10:14.980 censorship, but I think this is an issue that many, many people care about. But I think a lot
00:10:19.100 of Republicans wish that, you know, gearing up to try and take the party back to where it was
00:10:26.900 before Trump. That's my analysis as an outsider looking in. I'm not involved in Republican
00:10:32.000 politics. I work for a nonprofit, but I think you're asking why these people are mad. I think
00:10:36.480 that's probably a big part of the reason. Well, there's no question, but there is an
00:10:41.680 interesting distinction, I think, because if you say that you're against DEI, that's one thing to
00:10:47.420 say, and it seems perfectly safe. It seems perfectly comfortable for a lot of Republicans
00:10:53.740 to say this. But then if you actually point out that DEI in itself, in effect, its practical
00:11:01.840 expression is to be anti-white, is anti-white policies. So this is the same thing. Suddenly, 0.53
00:11:07.940 when you frame it that way, as opposed to saying DEI, they get up in arms. They feel so uncomfortable
00:11:15.320 to say, how dare you say that? I heard people accusing the vice president of being a white
00:11:19.340 nationalist and all these other things. I called him a socialist. I said, wait a minute. If you
00:11:24.760 say you're against DEI, then what's the difference between that and simply saying you're against
00:11:30.100 anti-white policies? Aren't they the same thing? That's, yeah, that's a great point. It's a
00:11:37.480 language thing and i think behind the language thing is this deep uh deep sense uh among some
00:11:43.200 republicans that they don't want to talk about this at all and i find it very strange you know
00:11:46.960 i'm you know i'm half white i'm half ethnic as you can tell from my name and all through my life
00:11:51.520 uh i've i've it's this weird thing where you know i see all these diversity programs and they exist
00:11:57.380 in the uk as well of course where i'm from and it's like they're simultaneously uh targeted at
00:12:04.120 me as an as an ethnic minority and against me because i'm also half white so i'm very aware of
00:12:09.280 both sides of this and how deeply uh deeply instituted it is especially in the lives of my
00:12:14.440 generation like i think a a white millennial a white male millennial in either united states
00:12:20.680 uh or uh or the uk or many western countries has been discriminated against in a sense all their
00:12:26.540 in their entire lives by the leading institutions of society so it's insane to pretend this isn't
00:12:31.800 an issue. It's gotten better, for sure, in the last couple of years. But remember how bad it was
00:12:37.080 in 2020, 2021, 2022, when the biggest corporations were just openly trying not to hire people on the
00:12:44.940 basis of their race. That's clear-cut racism. No, it clearly is. And this is why it gets to
00:12:53.840 this bigger thing that I want to look at, because I also saw a lot of people saying,
00:12:57.240 well, I'm against identity politics. I'm against identity politics, but not against identity
00:13:00.920 politics. The Republican Party plays identity politics all the time, by the way. And of course,
00:13:06.580 you see this with various caucuses of different groups and saying, oh, we're going to have this
00:13:11.620 celebration and this caucus and that caucus. And so it also comes across, and this, of course,
00:13:16.780 is in the light of the governor of Arkansas's, I think, ill-timed ad. And it probably wasn't
00:13:25.800 ill-meaning, by the way, and I actually don't think it was when she, you know, this ad,
00:13:30.520 the anti-Brad ad that she put out earlier this week, you know, saying that decrying
00:13:35.980 young white male gamers as being the biggest freeloaders on welfare, which, and by the way,
00:13:42.720 I haven't posted this yet. I've done some digging into this. And I'm pretty comfortable saying that
00:13:48.140 not only are young white males not, by far, nowhere near the largest group that takes
00:13:55.540 government assistance. They are, in fact, the least likely group to take government assistance,
00:14:02.480 the least likely. However, to your point, this is the one that Republicans are more comfortable
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00:14:59.100 Yeah, and I wonder if this is a really a generational thing if, you know, if there's
00:15:05.040 some demographic out there that Huckabee Sanders thinks is going to be enthused by this ad. It would
00:15:09.860 be very depressing if there was, if that demographic existed in the Republican base.
00:15:14.000 But I might also just be giving too much credit to whoever came up with this ad. I'm not sure they really thought it through beyond thinking, oh, this is clever. It means we won't get attacked by the mainstream media for racism and we can also talk about welfare. That's probably what they were thinking. And I don't think they fully understood the backlash they'd receive.
00:15:35.000 And I'll say one thing about, you know, gamers. I'm working on a book about Gamergate. You might remember that controversy from 2014. That was the first successful anti-woke backlash.
00:15:45.580 So if you care about the excesses of wokeness, you even have Democrats like, and especially the censorship it caused, you even have Democrats like AOC seemingly issuing some reservations about what they call woke one, trying to brush down the car because they're aware of how far it went.
00:16:05.240 gamers were the first ones to sort of organize against it back in 2014, even before Trump ran
00:16:11.940 in the primaries. So, you know, not just spearing white males, smearing gamers as well. I mean,
00:16:17.800 that's a pastime enjoyed by tens of millions, if not hundreds, you know, over a hundred million
00:16:23.660 Americans. It's a huge pastime. It's like attacking football fans. It's stupid.
00:16:28.920 No. And of course, you're referring to GamerGate and longtime followers of Poso will 1.00
00:16:34.880 remember that i wasn't involved in gamer gate but i on my original blog which was all about game of
00:16:40.380 thrones um you know it was sort of like a broader if we call it like nerd gate where we experienced
00:16:46.260 some of this as well um where uh the hugo awards and there was this group called the sad puppies
00:16:52.260 and the angry puppies and we were experiencing the same thing across other genres as well uh in in
00:16:58.180 sci-fi in fantasy the same type of thing was coming up and at the time we called it social
00:17:03.460 justice warriors. It was now, of course, referred to as woke one, but it was very much those same
00:17:09.200 type of pressures that were being applied to so much of these groups that again, non-political,
00:17:15.360 right? It was, uh, uh, entertainment spaces, but suddenly people started having a backlash to it
00:17:20.620 because we didn't like the crap that they were doing to our content. And we wanted to respond
00:17:27.560 And, well, here we are. And I'm still doing it 10 years later or 15. I don't even know how many years later.
00:17:35.240 And I'll just just emphasize like gamers were very, very good at digital organizing.
00:17:39.960 You know, they formed a genuine grassroots movement with no help from any institutional force, be it conservative or any other political group.
00:17:47.300 They weren't astroturfed at all. So I think it's it's it's very short sighted to alienate a group that is simultaneously very large.
00:17:56.080 We'll talk millions of people, probably sympathetic to conservative causes because they saw how wokeness affected their own their own hobby.
00:18:04.540 And three, really, really quite good at building associations and organizations.
00:18:09.220 You know, this is, you know, the same thing if you're if you're into deep political theory.
00:18:14.800 There's this fantastic book Robert Putnam wrote in around 2000 called Bowling Alone about the decline of associations and organizing in American life and how this was bad for democracy.
00:18:25.820 because people forgot how because people were not organizing in around hobbies there'd be less
00:18:30.700 added at organizing politically and i think gamers are one of the few groups in society that do know
00:18:35.880 how to organize quite well and you saw that convert into almost political organization during
00:18:42.000 gamergate so i think i think we should sum it up short-sighted in many ways that add
00:18:47.300 we should we should write an update to that uh called gaming alone yes yes and that's and that's
00:18:55.220 what they wanted they they wanted they came after the gamers the gamers responded this i mean this
00:18:59.520 is it's it's so much the deep lore of maga that i i i really stress that that these people have
00:19:07.920 no idea the forces of which they are dealing with when you go after the gamers and i've had to reach
00:19:13.820 out to over the years i've had to reach out to certain people again and again say guys don't do
00:19:18.860 not do this you have no idea what you're toying with don't go there just trust me on this
00:19:25.040 Do not mess with the gamers.
00:19:28.480 Jack Posobiec, Alan Bakari, right back here.
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00:21:34.560 Alan Bakari is our guest for the Foundation of Freedom Online. Alan, you've got a new op-ed up
00:21:40.840 on an incredible website called humanevents.com. You're saying that conservatives must not abandon
00:21:47.680 the tech industry and AI to political wolves. Tell us about it.
00:21:54.000 Yes. So, I mean, I don't think I can be accused of being uncritical of big tech.
00:21:58.960 I started covering big tech over 10 years ago in 2015, and I spent almost seven years exposing,
00:22:07.240 well, more than that, my entire career, basically exposing how big tech colluded with
00:22:12.920 non-profits and the media to censor political speech. But I think we're missing something
00:22:18.200 with the current round of criticism of big tech, which is increasingly coming from the left,
00:22:22.660 especially all the stuff about data centers and AI apocalypse. Because my criticism of big tech,
00:22:28.660 you know, five years ago, 10 years ago, was never about the underlying technology. I always thought
00:22:35.080 the underlying technology of social media was very, very good because it disrupted the legacy
00:22:39.800 media it gave ordinary people a voice uh it uh it uh it was a threat to the establishment's power
00:22:46.560 and my criticism of big tech was joining with the establishment joining with the deep state
00:22:51.000 to uh to you know to censor people uh and you know sort of take undermine the very revolution
00:22:57.020 they were creating and i was very pleased that companies like uh that people like elon musk
00:23:01.920 and eventually mark zuckerberg realized their error and stopped the censorship um and i think
00:23:07.480 So my article is that big tech has been bad to conservatives in the past, and perhaps they don't trust them because of that.
00:23:15.820 But we need to understand that it's a good thing that the industry has moved over, that they've abandoned censorship, number one, and that they've embraced their role as disruptors of the establishment, as many of these leading tech figures now have.
00:23:30.540 And now things have changed in another degree because the people who are trying to undermine tech and destroy tech and regulate tech are all people in the permanent bureaucracy, in the European Union, in the media, in the NGO industrial complex.
00:23:45.820 They're the ones who want to control big tech now because they recognize that tech is undermining their power.
00:23:53.980 They undermine the power of the media.
00:23:56.060 And I think the AI industry is going to undermine their power even more because it undermines the ability of managerial elites to keep a monopoly on information and to govern by complexity.
00:24:07.340 AI destroys complexity.
00:24:09.120 It also undermines Hollywood.
00:24:10.640 It undermines big animation studios.
00:24:14.120 You'll soon be able to create a Pixar movie based on it with a few prompts.
00:24:18.400 This is horrendous for Hollywood gatekeepers who only want your kids to see, you know, woke, woke, woke movies when they turn on the TV or go to the cinema.
00:24:27.500 These are all massive threats to control over information.
00:24:30.640 So I think we need to separate our criticism of people who sometimes run tech, people who sometimes censor tech and the underlying technology itself.
00:24:38.140 The point of this article I've written for Human Events is that the underlying technology, be it social media, be it AI, is trending towards the disruption of the establishment, and that is the empowerment of ordinary people.
00:24:50.400 And that is a good thing.
00:24:52.560 Well, and that's exactly right.
00:24:54.840 And this is something that, you know, when you went back, we were just talking about Gamergate, Nerdgate.
00:24:59.440 And the idea that back then, which a lot of those energies which flowed into the online MAGA movement in 2015, 2016, were obviously powered by social media.
00:25:11.700 The original Trump core was powered by social media.
00:25:15.280 It would not have been able to disintermediate the mainstream media, the cable networks, the dinosaur media, the way that even Real America's Voice is doing the same thing right now with the power of using the Internet, using tech.
00:25:30.760 And so while we like the technology, the question is always, of course, and the same as it was back then, it's the gatekeepers, isn't it?
00:25:39.300 It is the gatekeepers.
00:25:40.760 And we're now seeing an effort to install gatekeepers over the AI industry.
00:25:44.460 there's an organization called meter metr that is using fears about an ai apocalypse to raise huge
00:25:51.600 sums of money tens of millions of dollars uh we have a reporter my institute the foundation of
00:25:56.920 freedom online shows how that organization metr which is being pushed by anthropic and dario modi
00:26:02.480 to regulate the entire industry to be granted access to every single ai uh company's safety uh
00:26:09.080 safety protocols sort of installing themselves gatekeepers not over just one company but every
00:26:13.800 company. We just have a report out at the Foundation for Freedom Online showing how they're
00:26:18.680 teaming up with the Rand Corporation, which has been this sort of deep state linked establishment
00:26:24.660 think tank since the 1950s. And they were a big advocate of, for example, NewsGuard,
00:26:30.660 which was an organization that built blacklists of disfavored media companies, would take those
00:26:35.460 blacklists to advertisers and advertisers would then use those blacklists, financially throttle
00:26:40.860 disfavored media, mainly conservative media, also some anti-establishment sources on the left.
00:26:46.940 That's who these guys are teaming up with. So we're seeing almost the same thing that we saw
00:26:51.700 with the campaign against disinformation. The campaign against disinformation was characterized
00:26:58.020 by this globally coordinated push by governments, by the advertising industry, by NGOs that were
00:27:06.360 often funded by the US deep state to install these third party disinformation experts in the trust
00:27:14.160 and safety teams of social media companies where they could censor anyone at will. And I think
00:27:18.380 we're seeing the same push to install this class of AI safety experts as the intermediaries between
00:27:25.480 AI and the public. And that organization, their CEO is on camera advocating open borders. So those
00:27:32.460 of the type of people we're talking about.
00:27:34.580 Exactly.
00:27:35.140 Where can people follow you?
00:27:36.960 At Alan Bakari on Twitter,
00:27:39.080 and that's the foundation of freedomonline.com.
00:27:42.120 All right, folks, we'll be right back
00:27:43.360 with more Human Events Daily
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00:29:42.840 All right, I want to bring on now Rich Barris,
00:29:45.180 the People's Pundit, the author of the new book,
00:29:47.940 which just hit the shelves.
00:29:49.520 It's burning up the charts.
00:29:50.640 It's called, it's burning up the charts,
00:29:52.780 even though its title is Burn It Down.
00:29:54.980 Rich, how are you?
00:29:55.700 living the dream brother that works so well rolls right off the tongue doesn't it it does roll off
00:30:01.420 the tongue and great work with you and uh with joshua lisek as well congrats on all the success
00:30:06.500 of the book and continued success rich i gotta ask though you know so a lot of what i wrote about
00:30:12.180 in on humans two years ago as well as the new update that we're putting out on a human socialist
00:30:17.940 revolution it ties so much into what you and joshua then built on with uh burn it down a lot
00:30:25.660 of the same it's it's the same idea why are we in a socialist revolution why are these people winning
00:30:30.500 it's not because these guys want socialism it's because they're sick of you it's because they're
00:30:35.600 sick of the old way that people are running things and so jd vance comes on the show yesterday
00:30:41.500 we sit down we invite us all air force to we sit down we talk about it for a couple of minutes
00:30:47.080 for a couple of minutes we sit down you know uh you know a short it was a brief interview
00:30:53.440 it was it was but it was extensive but man oh man did he hit the fault lines he he tripped
00:30:59.880 the trip wires yesterday walk us through the backlash to this and the response from so many
00:31:08.860 people that you know i would have thought would have been on side this is this is was a perfect
00:31:15.280 it was an opportune interview but it was it really was like the perfect definition of what's
00:31:20.240 going on on the right right now and you have one side that is advocating for a message a way of
00:31:27.140 thinking about uh where we are in our history on our historical timeline and the majority of course
00:31:33.660 agrees with it because it's real it's the truth and then you have the other side that is like
00:31:39.200 clinging to a dying a doomed way of way of uh governing way of living it's a doomed order
00:31:46.500 and it's an order that was put in place to cater to a small group of people and the rest of the
00:31:51.380 country is just saying you know at this point we've had it we're done it we can't continue the
00:31:55.520 vice president was not had like nodding you know to it he totally understood it he understood like
00:32:02.420 i feel like somebody's reading these books jack you know it's it's almost like somebody gets it
00:32:06.860 Uh, and he's giving this voice to these people that we're, you and I are trying to, uh, to, to reach and represent here. And then they get, he gets attacked for it. And this is a preview of what 2028 is going to look like. You have a dying part of the Republican party that Donald Trump resurrected.
00:32:26.560 They rode his coattails. 1.00
00:32:28.200 They're professional losers, and they're going extinct. 1.00
00:32:31.820 Donald Trump resurrected them. 1.00
00:32:33.800 They're losers without him, and J.D. Vance is the heir to that, all right? 0.98
00:32:38.280 That is just the reality, and he's more than that, I mean, because he understands it better
00:32:42.800 because he is one of them.
00:32:44.180 He's one of these people that feel unheard.
00:32:46.680 He's got the same lived experience, and to attack it, I knew they were going to do it
00:32:51.540 too, Jack.
00:32:51.960 That's the most delicious part about it.
00:32:53.400 I knew after just watching 10 seconds of this interview that they were going to attack it,
00:32:58.060 which is a trap, but good.
00:32:59.560 Walk into it because I really do think that this has to happen.
00:33:03.520 This discussion has to happen and it has to be put to bed really soon.
00:33:07.460 You can either have empathy and have the sort of politics where you can coherently and competently
00:33:13.440 articulate your message and it's a winning message and it's one that has empathy toward
00:33:18.080 your fellow man and the lived experience of others. 0.97
00:33:21.020 or you can be a bunch of pretentious little ruling class snots 0.94
00:33:24.860 like they were before Trump came along to save them 0.95
00:33:27.440 and you can lose
00:33:28.860 and the socialists can win
00:33:30.820 so let's just have this fight right now
00:33:32.920 let's do it
00:33:33.620 because they don't have a constituency
00:33:35.840 this is what, you know, they were
00:33:37.940 look at that, look at that
00:33:38.800 the Democrats must love this
00:33:40.560 no, you know what the Democrats love?
00:33:42.460 you getting your hands in a coalition
00:33:44.480 you didn't help build at all
00:33:46.520 and then trying to run it into the ground
00:33:48.640 for your own selfish reasons
00:33:50.520 while your fellow man is suffering.
00:33:53.140 That's what Democrats love
00:33:54.260 because that's how Democrats win elections 1.00
00:33:56.340 and it's why you are a loser 0.99
00:33:58.100 and you have been losing elections since the Bush era 1.00
00:34:01.660 and you haven't been able to put it back together.
00:34:04.800 Again, Trump, let's not forget,
00:34:06.580 people can't, we cannot allow this to go,
00:34:09.600 to become forgotten, Jack.
00:34:11.280 This was a party that was already burned to the ground.
00:34:16.020 They destroyed it.
00:34:17.680 One that went from winning
00:34:18.720 every single fastest growing excerpt in the country in 04 to just four years later, not
00:34:24.400 even being a national political force and being destroyed.
00:34:27.540 People like him gave us Obamacare.
00:34:30.180 That's how we got Barack Obama.
00:34:32.040 That's how we got Obamacare.
00:34:33.380 That's how we got the IRS targeting conservative groups because of the right wing that like
00:34:40.100 this, it's a dinosaur wing, it's going extinct, and the best thing you can do for this country
00:34:44.740 just go quietly while the rest of while while the while the future tries to fix what they broke
00:34:50.320 and it's it's it's amazing because i've noticed that they haven't really gotten the talking points
00:34:57.840 as to what they should be mad about in the interview so you notice they know they're mad
00:35:03.340 right exactly so you know they're mad so i said so mark levin pops off and he says the democrats
00:35:08.400 will love this and i'm like what like what what what so it's like a it's like a pro-democrat
00:35:14.300 thing like i'm or it's like help the democrats i'm not really sure what that i'm not really sure
00:35:18.280 what that means i'm gonna say i'm just gonna be honest mark i don't even know what you mean like
00:35:21.560 like he doesn't even know what to say right he knows how he knows he doesn't like it but he
00:35:26.260 doesn't even really know what to say about it because jd's talking about like hey we need to
00:35:30.300 we need to work on the economy like okay great politician running in an election doesn't say
00:35:36.480 something like that of course you need to work on the economy that's your job right you know that's
00:35:40.100 what you want um then you've got it uh then you had people saying um you know just who were upset
00:35:47.080 that like he was talking to me like oh my gosh he's talking to someone who oh oh oh my goodness
00:35:52.060 someone who's also from the rust belt someone who might actually understand uh things that are
00:35:57.880 issues in the rest of he's from ohio i'm from pennsylvania you know maybe just maybe some of
00:36:02.760 the de-industrialization that's going on in the rust belt are similar economic forces that we can
00:36:08.540 both speak to. And, you know, I was thinking about it. It's like, you know, we're actually
00:36:12.120 similar in age. We both joined the military after college, just, you know, a couple of couple of
00:36:16.140 different things that, that kind of line up in our, our, uh, you know, a lot of different things
00:36:20.380 too, but you know, things like that do line up and I think he's got, he's got a couple of months
00:36:24.880 on me though. He's got a couple of months on me and you sit there and then they were calling it
00:36:29.180 socialist. What's socialist about him just talking about the big and the biggest thing that I've seen
00:36:34.620 them upset about it's not even the h1b it's not even it's not even that he said we need to end
00:36:39.100 anti-white discrimination they're upset about that but that wasn't the biggest one the biggest
00:36:42.740 one is when he went after globalism rich and i think that at the end of the day more than anything
00:36:47.420 else is what this is about jack neocons are leftists all right it's time to like resurface
00:36:54.880 this lost couple of decades of our history where fox news and company helped paint over the real
00:37:01.580 history of what happened to the American right. They were kicked out of the Democratic Party
00:37:05.780 during the Vietnam War because of their hawkish foreign policy and the Democrats becoming
00:37:09.840 the anti-war party, but they are the children of Trotskyite thought. They were then welcomed 0.65
00:37:15.200 into the Republican Party by the great communicator, the Gipper himself, Ronald Reagan,
00:37:19.620 and they were allowed to take positions in the coalition, but Ronnie did not let them
00:37:25.800 drive foreign policy and did not subscribe to the use of the primacy of U.S. power to shape
00:37:33.880 the world in your image, which is a very godlike, arrogant worldview to hold, but that's what
00:37:40.400 neocons, that's their view, which is why it's irreconcilable. How could you claim to be
00:37:45.960 conservative and you think that government is incompetent and it's corrupt, yet somehow you
00:37:50.500 believe nation building and regime change thousands of miles away can work? You can't do it.
00:37:55.800 here. You can't do it domestically in your own backyard, but somehow you're going to make it
00:38:00.420 work thousands of miles away. It's failed one time after another. And unfortunately, after the
00:38:06.400 Reagan administration, Poppy Bush took the banner, ran with it. They got creamed. They couldn't even 1.00
00:38:11.900 win an election again until George W. Bush came around in 2000. What did he preach? Did he preach
00:38:17.940 let's go invade Iraq? He didn't win like that. He ran saying we can't be the world's police.
00:38:23.260 We can't listen to these forces who want us to be all over the country forever in a post-World War II era.
00:38:29.260 We have to deal with home.
00:38:30.640 And that's how we put the Perot coalition back together.
00:38:33.340 And they want to crack it up all over again even though they didn't build it.
00:38:38.160 No, no, they didn't.
00:38:39.480 Rich Baris, Jack Posobiec, right back.
00:38:41.020 Human Events Daily, only on Real America's Voice.
00:38:53.260 This is the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:38:57.600 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential
00:39:01.860 nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:39:03.560 And that is, I'll be honest.
00:39:10.480 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:39:16.840 We're on with Rich Barris.
00:39:18.260 We're talking about the backlash to this, uh, the JD Vance interview from all the right
00:39:23.360 people, by the way, the fact that the, um, the old right conservatives, the neocons are
00:39:30.000 just so, so, uh, we've, we've rust their Russell, we've rustled their jumblies, rich
00:39:35.280 we've rustled their jumblies and rich, by the way, by the way, rich, I remember that.
00:39:40.000 All right.
00:39:40.600 And just a little inside baseball that, uh, right before I went to interview the VP, uh,
00:39:47.960 So we're obviously we're on the plane and you don't have Wi-Fi when you're on a government plane like that.
00:39:53.000 So I had texted you like right before I was like, hey, I'm about to go interview him.
00:39:57.280 I think it's going to go big. Yeah.
00:40:00.600 Little prediction. I didn't hear anything since. And then and then boom.
00:40:05.240 And, you know, now here we are. I mean, but let's talk about this right there.
00:40:10.220 Yeah. Why is it? Yeah. And so this is your this is your post.
00:40:14.700 you know why was it so impactful why do you think this one was so impactful because look the vice
00:40:20.740 president talks all the time and and i'm not trying to my own horn here but why do you think
00:40:25.080 this one specifically had so much more impact than uh than some of the other the other statements
00:40:31.860 the other some of the other things that he said lately look and then here's here's more than a
00:40:36.800 hint i'm just going to tell people what it is right now and we alluded to it in the last segment
00:40:40.640 A lot of people have tuned out, Jack, and it's because they don't feel like the people that they were listening to before are representing them or even understand them, and they're not speaking towards their needs or their interests at all.
00:40:53.820 So it could be somebody else who interviews the vice president, does an incredible job, he's super articulate, he drives the message.
00:40:59.720 But people tuned in to you interviewing the vice president because they wanted to see people who understand what they're going through interview the vice president.
00:41:10.640 And then get out of the vice president what, you know, something better, something more out of it.
00:41:15.200 Let me see what he really thinks about these issues that I care about.
00:41:18.260 Does he understand? Does he have empathy for what I'm going through right now?
00:41:23.080 And I don't mean to shoot your horn, but it's true.
00:41:26.640 These kind of voters that the right's having a problem with and struggling with right now, they trust you more.
00:41:33.060 It's that simple. They know, or at the very least, they recognize in you the same experience.
00:41:38.440 And they're like, you know what? If anyone's going to ask anything that I care about and I want to hear an answer to, it'll be Jack Posobiec. If anyone's going to say, hey, what about this? What about the fight against globalism? Did we forget about this? What about manufacturing? What about H-1B visas? What about all of this that we were supposed to care about just two years ago?
00:41:58.460 it's Jack Posobiec he'll ask it nobody's going to tune in and I hate to say this but
00:42:03.420 the last couple interviews the vice president did I mean effectively amounted to a waste of
00:42:09.340 his time he's the vice president and he makes news wherever he goes and when he opens his mouth
00:42:14.360 people listen there's no doubt but as far as what you know a segment if not an entire hour if you
00:42:21.420 wanted to sit down but as far as like when people look and they're deciding whether or not they even
00:42:25.880 want to see an interview or watch it all the way through they're wondering is somebody is the
00:42:30.240 interviewer going to even direct the discussion in a way that i care about i find of interest or
00:42:37.140 is relevant to me and you guys it worked that interview worked so well and you know you're
00:42:42.540 talking about your commonalities but i mean like come on catholic centennial i'll use the centennial
00:42:47.840 not the millennial uh midwest you know very similar experiences both veterans i mean you just
00:42:54.440 it you you directed a conversation to the way that people really wanted the rest has just been a lot
00:43:00.300 of a lot of uh you know people are tired of giving so much of their time uh to hearing things that
00:43:06.160 they don't care about it's about and look you know at the end at the end of the day it's it's
00:43:13.780 it's about connecting right and i think it has nothing to do with anything that i said it has
00:43:20.680 nothing to do with uh anything special i did other than than go there and and you know be able to ask
00:43:26.760 those questions but but that starts with listening that starts with listening to going around on
00:43:31.680 campus talking to young people like charlie did by the way and the fact that charlie used to talk
00:43:37.120 about this all the time he would say that young people have issues with economics he was saying
00:43:44.860 this in 2024. He was saying this in 2025. And their approach to economics, their situation
00:43:51.120 with economics is different than it has been for previous generations. And he was specifically
00:43:57.340 talking about Gen Z. And he was saying that the first place that you have to start, your starting
00:44:03.880 place with this, is to listen to them and actually understand their concerns, understand the
00:44:11.100 pressures that are against them, and the fact that all of these things, right, it's not about
00:44:14.660 burritos it is a burritos but it's not about burritos by the way one thing i have to put out
00:44:19.420 that's so funny that like i've even seen like mark theason all these guys saying there's no such
00:44:23.120 thing as a 22 burrito and it's like dude we we went through this a couple of weeks ago we were
00:44:29.160 all able to find uh 22 burritos for like very quickly right around us at like chipotle's we
00:44:36.400 did a chipotle test the only way you could get it under was if you like you you had like no meat or
00:44:41.340 you put that like fake meat in it or something whatever it is and it's it's not the point that
00:44:47.400 oh you know you can go and out to the store and make cheaper bread by the way i usually cook at
00:44:52.100 home or like we you know tiny tay usually i should say not me but like our family right right let's
00:44:56.360 call it what it is that's not tanya and laura but you know what though right right right but i'm but
00:45:01.540 i'm married i have kids i'm already a time when i was getting started i ate out like all the time
00:45:07.920 All right. 2016, run around on that campaign, man. I was, you know, it was like, it was like
00:45:12.800 Wawa. It was burritos. It was sheets, depending on what part of Pennsylvania I was in, you know,
00:45:18.500 or what part of the country, right? That's where I ate. And that's what I ate all the time. And so
00:45:24.640 the idea that is not, it's, it's about living conditions. It's about standards. H1B is the
00:45:29.880 pressures that are against young men. And the fact of the matter is rich. And I'm just going to say
00:45:34.500 I think that a lot of those people, that a lot of these people who are upset, it's because their side of the aisle is getting rich off of the system the way that it is.
00:45:46.340 Of course, of course.
00:45:48.460 And, you know, FFS, Mark, nobody wants to pay $4 for gas like you said they would.
00:45:53.260 I mean, everything these people say is wrong.
00:45:55.980 It's all wrong, Jack.
00:45:57.160 And then they just move the goalpost and try to talk about something like there's no $22 burrito.
00:46:01.560 You know what there is?
00:46:02.880 430 gasoline, bro, that nobody wants to pay for.
00:46:05.840 I mean, it is what it comes down to is what you're saying.
00:46:09.880 That this is benefiting them.
00:46:12.080 They like this.
00:46:13.160 That's okay.
00:46:14.220 Now, my employee, who's a Gen Z, brilliant kid, super talented, went to school, did everything right.
00:46:20.640 He's got to buy burritos on the run because the kid's never home.
00:46:23.640 If he wants to make a living, he's driving all over the place from D.C. to Tennessee to North Carolina to Pennsylvania.
00:46:31.660 Like, Jack, he's not sitting home and making Sunday dinner every week.
00:46:36.380 I'm sure he wishes he could.
00:46:38.100 It's just a total lack of empathy for the experience of other people, the suffering of other human beings.
00:46:45.060 And it's, I mean, I actually, as a pollster, because I have to hear it all the time, it makes me angry because I know it's real.
00:46:52.800 And I just can't understand how other human beings who claim to love politics, which is all about relationships with other people and interacting and listening to other people, or at least that's what it should be, and that's what it always was.
00:47:08.700 It's astonishing to me that there are so many in this world who just feel, and I'm not going to say they can't do it because you and I both know they really can.
00:47:17.560 They don't want to because they're doing well, and that's all they care about.
00:47:22.040 and it's brother it's disgraceful it's morally wrong number one and number two you know charlie
00:47:28.460 wait rich can i just get can i just get your response on this 90 seconds but
00:47:33.860 then you get these guys like brad todd coming out and saying well this is identity politics
00:47:38.600 and i don't like identity politics i don't think that's true wake up anyway look at the world
00:47:44.940 around you all right it is you're engaged in identity politics in the way that he's saying
00:47:50.080 whether you want to be or not all right you have to recognize that your core base of voter which is
00:47:57.660 what is that it's all the difference in the world young men who are millennial and down are the all
00:48:03.760 the difference in the world we call them over here all the winning parts all right all the new parts
00:48:08.300 that came to trump in 24 that made the election super easy and super early all right we weren't
00:48:14.680 doing a 2 30 in the morning election jack if we didn't have we already knew donald trump won 1.00
00:48:18.760 and we did because those men came out to vote it is just malpractice and stupidity to sit there 0.99
00:48:25.280 and ignore the voices of a core constituency that you need to win because you want to sit 1.00
00:48:30.220 up on some principled pedestal and claim you don't want to engage in identity politics
00:48:35.140 the happy loser bro is over it's over rich bass we follow you brother people's pundit.locals.com
00:48:43.360 go buy burn it down everybody let's do this let's pass spencer cox come 0.88
00:48:47.200 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission.
00:48:49.200 Later.