Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Battle Of The Bill - Huge Schism Over Mass Deportation Bill In Congress

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.160 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:45.940 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

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00:00:56.160 certain countries, citing national security risks.

00:00:59.560 We will not allow people to enter our country who wish to do us harm. 1.00

00:01:04.600 Ordering a wide-ranging investigation into former President Joe Biden and his aides.

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00:01:19.100 President Joe Biden's White House secretary announced she is leaving the Democratic Party.

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00:01:29.220 Judge hits pause on the deportation of the Colorado firebombing suspect's family.

00:01:33.960 Arizona's Democratic Governor Katie Hobbs has vetoed a bill preventing Chinese ownership

00:01:39.340 of land in the state.

00:01:40.960 The Republican-backed legislation barred the Chinese government from holding a stake of 30% or more

00:01:46.460 in any Arizona property.

00:01:48.180 Friedrich Mayers took office just weeks ago, and while he and President Trump have spoken

00:01:52.500 on the phone since then, this will actually be the first time that they've met in person.

00:01:56.860 But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than

00:02:02.800 almost anybody sitting here, better than you people.

00:02:05.760 He knew everything about it.

00:02:06.900 He had no problem with it.

00:02:07.920 All of a sudden, he had a problem, and he only developed the problem when he found out

00:02:11.660 that we're going to have to cut the EV mandate because that's billions and billions of dollars.

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00:02:22.840 Today is June 5th, 2025.

00:02:25.580 Anno Domini.

00:02:26.480 Well, the battle of the bill has begun.

00:02:30.360 President Trump and Elon Musk trading shots back and forth, one in the Oval Office, the

00:02:37.300 other on X, and people have seen this completely going back and forth, the spiraling, the tweets,

00:02:44.720 the comments, everybody's seeing it here.

00:02:46.960 And here's what I want to say, and I want to preface this with what I said on the show yesterday.

00:02:54.000 Debt is important.

00:02:57.660 The debt is an important issue.

00:02:59.080 Of course it is.

00:03:00.080 It absolutely is.

00:03:01.740 This is something, and you go and look at the work we've done, talking about the bond market

00:03:06.120 here, talk about the work we've done, talking about deficits, talking about the reason that

00:03:11.400 we need tariffs to be able to reset all of these things, the debt is an important issue.

00:03:16.360 Of course it is.

00:03:18.120 Farm policy is an important issue.

00:03:19.680 Of course it is.

00:03:20.780 All of these things are important issues.

00:03:22.540 But there is one issue that is more critical to not only the political backbone of all of

00:03:31.800 MAGA and the existential future of the United States of America, and that is the issue of

00:03:39.820 immigration.

00:03:41.140 There are too many migrants in this country, and they are driving up prices everywhere. 1.00

00:03:47.160 They're ruining all of our systems, and, by the way, driving up our debt through direct

00:03:53.760 and indirect use and abuse of entitlement programs, okay?

00:03:59.680 If you want to have a country, you need to mass deport at least 10 million people, probably 0.99

00:04:08.460 a lot more than that.

00:04:09.480 I'm saying that is the ballpark conservative estimate of how many mass deportations that

00:04:14.660 we're going to need, and then self-deportations will commence.

00:04:18.600 This must be done.

00:04:20.260 Programs like H-1B, H-2B, J-1, all of these other programs out there that are ripe with

00:04:26.180 abuse, that needs to be taken care of.

00:04:29.340 If you want to have a country that has a debt to worry about, that has foreign policy to

00:04:34.920 worry about, that has all of these other things to worry about, that's what you've got

00:04:38.380 to do.

00:04:39.100 So there's a category error going on here.

00:04:41.540 It's a category error.

00:04:43.340 Are we going to have a country or not?

00:04:46.780 Because right now, this bill, the big, beautiful deportation bill, that's what it is.

00:04:53.320 It's in the Senate.

00:04:54.740 It can be passed.

00:04:56.380 It can get through.

00:04:57.660 It only needs 50 votes, and J.D. can break the tie.

00:05:00.760 And we can actually get our country back and set the table to be able to address all of

00:05:08.000 these other issues.

00:05:09.740 That's what Donald Trump ran for.

00:05:11.460 That's what we voted for, Donald Trump.

00:05:14.220 I didn't vote for anybody else.

00:05:15.520 I voted for Donald Trump, and all of us voted for Donald Trump to be president of the United

00:05:20.660 States.

00:05:21.440 And these were the issues he ran on.

00:05:24.160 Be right back.

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00:05:33.120 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back here.

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00:05:47.900 The battle of the bill.

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00:07:02.660 I want to bring in now the Breitbart News, Washington, D.C. Bureau Chief, Matt Boyle.

00:07:10.460 And I wanted to talk about this.

00:07:11.960 So, Boyle, we were originally planning to have you on to sort of talk about what the count

00:07:16.440 is on the big, beautiful bill, the big, beautiful deportation bill, as I've been saying it.

00:07:22.060 But there's other elements as well, including the no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, a number

00:07:27.500 of other items, line items that are coming in here.

00:07:30.440 But the main thing and the main thrust, I think, for Trump supporters and Trump voters

00:07:33.360 is the understanding that this is the bill that gets us mass deportations.

00:07:37.180 This is the top issue.

00:07:38.960 This is the number one issue for Trump supporters.

00:07:41.920 And now we're seeing this huge backlash.

00:07:45.140 Now, it started as a backlash in the Senate.

00:07:47.660 Budget hawks and deficit hawks like Rand Paul had come in on it.

00:07:51.920 You know, a few others, Mike Lee and Ron Johnson, who had some issues with it.

00:07:56.140 But now Elon Musk weighing in.

00:07:58.360 And we've seen it just an absolute missive over on X.

00:08:02.900 Boyle, walk us through what's going on with this bill.

00:08:05.660 So first off, I would say that the backlash that you're seeing, quote unquote, I don't

00:08:12.580 know if I would say it's as big a backlash as people think.

00:08:15.860 I think the Republicans in the Senate are going to find a way to get a version of the big,

00:08:20.620 beautiful bill that's probably pretty similar to the House passed version through the United

00:08:24.600 States Senate, probably by the end of the month.

00:08:26.840 That would be my guess.

00:08:27.740 And maybe by early July.

00:08:30.360 And then they're going to get a bill to the president's desk.

00:08:32.720 And why is that?

00:08:33.560 Because there's so many things that ride on this.

00:08:35.340 The president's entire agenda and legacy are on the line here.

00:08:39.420 In addition to that, the entire national economy is on the line.

00:08:44.040 If they don't pass something, the 2017 tax rates are going to expire.

00:08:48.780 We're going to have a massive tax hike on Americans of every income bracket across the

00:08:55.200 country.

00:08:55.600 So from lower middle class folks, I mean, they're going to see huge tax increases on

00:09:00.360 them if they don't get if the Senate doesn't get this done and if Congress doesn't get a

00:09:05.060 final product to the president's desk.

00:09:07.300 In addition to that, as you mentioned, the bill has all sorts of things in there with regard

00:09:13.060 to immigration enforcement.

00:09:14.300 It's really incredible stuff, like more ICE resources, more it's just more and more and more for

00:09:22.080 immigration enforcement.

00:09:23.080 There are some things that some conservatives didn't necessarily like in the House, but

00:09:31.980 everybody but one Republican in the House, and that's Thomas Massey, voted for the bill.

00:09:37.780 So even the hardest core conservatives like Chip Roy and those guys, they voted for the

00:09:41.640 bill.

00:09:41.900 So the fact is, is that why would they vote for that when it increases the debt ceiling

00:09:49.540 by $5 trillion, which amounts out to about two years?

00:09:54.060 Well, because of all the other stuff that's in there.

00:09:57.140 Now, there are people out there that think that the bill should be doing doge cuts.

00:10:02.160 This is not the place for doge cuts.

00:10:04.720 Doge cuts happen in recessions and in the appropriations process.

00:10:09.480 This is a reconciliation bill.

00:10:11.180 So process-wise, you can't do doge cuts in this, because the doge cuts are discretionary

00:10:17.840 spending.

00:10:18.480 This is mandatory spending stuff.

00:10:20.660 They can do some Medicaid stuff and whatnot.

00:10:24.480 There's other people that, you know, like Rand Paul, that want to see the debt ceiling pulled

00:10:29.000 out of this and voted on clean or, you know, shorted significantly.

00:10:35.240 He says he would be willing to go.

00:10:36.900 I talked to Senator Paul a little over a week ago.

00:10:39.240 In fact, I think it was my interview with Senator Paul that really kicked a lot of this

00:10:43.040 stuff off.

00:10:44.120 But he said to me that he'd be willing to go to like three to six months or something

00:10:48.720 on the debt ceiling in there.

00:10:50.300 Now, part of the reason why President Trump wants to have a two-year debt ceiling for $5

00:10:55.640 trillion in this thing is because at a certain point, you're going to come up on the debt

00:11:01.060 ceiling date anyway.

00:11:02.140 And when that day comes, you're either going to make a deal where the Republicans vote for

00:11:06.720 it, and frankly, the vast majority of the Republicans don't like to vote for debt ceiling

00:11:10.320 increases, or you're going to have to make a deal with the Democrats to get it done, because

00:11:14.560 they're never going to let the nation default.

00:11:16.760 Nobody's ever going to let them go over the debt ceiling and default.

00:11:19.640 So this is why President Trump has even advocated something that even Elizabeth Warren has advocated

00:11:27.000 as well.

00:11:27.740 So there is populist bipartisan support for this of getting rid of the debt ceiling altogether.

00:11:34.000 Now, I don't know if Republicans would go for that, but the fact that the vast majority

00:11:38.400 of House Republicans, a majority, voted for in the House, voted for a two-year debt ceiling

00:11:44.860 increase is a big deal.

00:11:46.620 And I would imagine that the Senate will figure out a way to get there.

00:11:51.580 Now, at the same time, you also have, as you mentioned, Elon Musk and what he's going

00:11:57.660 through here.

00:11:59.360 Obviously, this comes the week after Elon left the White House.

00:12:02.420 It does seem like this is a pretty bad breakup between the two of them.

00:12:07.340 I've seen Elon Musk out there taking credit for Donald Trump being the president.

00:12:11.740 There's no doubt that Elon Musk helped President Trump in a big way last year.

00:12:16.620 During the campaign.

00:12:18.180 But the idea that President Trump would have lost without him is just nonsense.

00:12:23.980 Like, that's it's totally untrue.

00:12:27.160 And frankly, Elon's not the president.

00:12:30.280 Trump is right.

00:12:31.380 Like, so Trump is the people, the person that people voted for.

00:12:34.940 The American people entrusted the man who's in the Oval Office to make these decisions for

00:12:40.940 them and to lead the country.

00:12:42.660 And he's the leader of the movement.

00:12:44.140 So it does seem like this is a little bit of a bad breakup.

00:12:47.460 There are some things between the two of them, in particular in the bill specifically.

00:12:53.760 It gets rid of the electric vehicle, the tax credits and whatnot.

00:13:00.940 Elon has said that he's okay with getting rid of those, I guess.

00:13:05.300 So he's okay with that staying in the bill.

00:13:07.240 But that would cost Tesla a lot of money.

00:13:09.460 So that's one thing as to one motive for him.

00:13:12.900 There's also some bad blood.

00:13:14.120 By the way, like, I wouldn't even, you know, I wouldn't have even had a huge problem.

00:13:19.840 And I'll just say this.

00:13:20.740 I wouldn't have had a huge problem if that was still in the bill, if the tax credit for

00:13:24.560 Evie was still in there. 0.99

00:13:25.880 Honestly, for everything, because of everything that he did do, as many people did, no one

00:13:30.800 did as much as Donald Trump.

00:13:32.260 But sure, fine.

00:13:33.680 It doesn't really bother me that much.

00:13:35.840 Why?

00:13:36.360 Because of what I was saying before, that if this gets us, this is politics, right?

00:13:41.480 Guys, it's politics, right?

00:13:43.160 It's not like you don't get to come in here and say, oh, well, I want this perfect thing

00:13:47.040 and that part.

00:13:47.600 No, no, it's politics.

00:13:49.000 It's about cutting deals.

00:13:50.460 That's how that works.

00:13:51.180 So if that's the deal, if you get this support and then other things down the line, and he

00:13:55.840 wants the Evie, like, it's honestly, I'll make that deal.

00:13:58.760 If it means we get the mass deportations, I will make that deal.

00:14:01.960 Why?

00:14:02.620 Because mass deportations are that important. 1.00

00:14:05.980 One minute to the break, Matt Boyle.

00:14:08.020 Yeah, look, I would just say, though, I have been tracking what Elon is doing.

00:14:13.160 And staying for many months now, dating back to the election last year and since then.

00:14:18.520 And there's always been something uneasy with him, right?

00:14:21.220 He opposed the tariffs.

00:14:22.960 The tariffs are a massive source of revenue for the federal government.

00:14:26.640 Even the CBO admits the tariffs are going to raise a significant amount of revenue, more

00:14:31.120 than this bill would lose, right?

00:14:33.920 Like, so he's opposed to that.

00:14:36.320 He's been opposed to immigration enforcement.

00:14:38.140 So he's been somebody who has been weakly aligned with President Trump anyway over the

00:14:44.080 course of this year.

00:14:45.400 And it seems like this breakup, if you will, has been destined to happen for some time.

00:14:50.640 He's never really been a natural fit at President Trump's side.

00:14:54.220 It's been obvious from the beginning.

00:14:55.780 And I think that what you're seeing now play out was destined to happen.

00:15:00.580 And I think that the Senate Republicans and the congressional Republicans, where at large,

00:15:04.540 understand that, get it.

00:15:06.920 And they also understand the importance of the moment here.

00:15:09.820 And they're going to do everything they can to get this done.

00:15:11.780 Quick break.

00:15:12.700 Matt Boyle, Jack Posobiec, coming right back.

00:15:15.080 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.

00:15:23.860 These are influencers.

00:15:25.720 And they're friends of mine.

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00:15:29.600 Where's Jack?

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00:15:31.580 He's done a great job.

00:15:33.000 All right, folks.

00:15:36.820 Jack Posobiec back live.

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00:17:02.840 Okay, we've got Matt Boyle on here, the D.C. Bureau Chief for Breitbart News.

00:17:07.840 We're walking through the politics of all of this.

00:17:09.980 So, Matt, Elon Musk up on X right now, he's threatening to create a new political party

00:17:17.720 to fund that, to run against Republicans and Democrats, presumably, in the midterms.

00:17:24.920 A lot of stuff going on.

00:17:26.600 What's your read on it?

00:17:28.240 Well, creating a new political party is a lot of work.

00:17:32.800 You would need to fight to get ballot access in a whole bunch of different places.

00:17:36.820 You would have to—it's not as easy as it sounds.

00:17:40.060 It's not like just calling up a bunch of buddies and saying,

00:17:42.380 we're going to start a political party and, you know, voila, Monday morning, it started.

00:17:46.940 No, there's a lot of work that goes into starting a political party.

00:17:51.500 Could he do it?

00:17:52.480 Maybe.

00:17:54.240 Could he focus for more—let's put it this way.

00:17:56.720 It takes a lot more than 130 days worth of work to start a political party, right?

00:18:01.020 Like, so, you know, I mean, he worked for 130 days in the White House, in the administration.

00:18:05.400 He did a lot of interesting and cool and important stuff.

00:18:08.840 And I know that the president viewed all the things he was doing there as very important at those.

00:18:15.520 But the fact is, is that, you know, you don't just get the phone in end.

00:18:22.780 You know, you have to actually do the work.

00:18:25.600 It's going to take a lot of work, a lot of money, et cetera.

00:18:28.880 I don't know if that works out so well.

00:18:30.320 So maybe, you never know, right?

00:18:32.600 Like, but it's been since, what, the 1800s sometimes?

00:18:36.760 Since the last time we had a, you know, a new major political party come on the scene.

00:18:41.040 We've got two parties in this country.

00:18:42.780 That's just kind of how it works in America.

00:18:44.480 You've got a two-party system.

00:18:45.700 Either the Republicans win or the Democrats win.

00:18:48.640 And the fight is inside the Republican Party, frankly, for conservatives.

00:18:53.100 It's about electing better Republicans.

00:18:55.340 And look, we've gotten a lot better Republicans over the last 10 years or so than we had, you know, when I first started this whole thing, you know, 15 years ago when I was working with Tucker and Bannon back in the day.

00:19:07.380 But the, you know, those numbers, you know, they could be a lot better still, too, right?

00:19:15.160 There's still a lot of bad guys there.

00:19:16.680 Well, Matt, you know, we did, by the way, and I've explained this to, you know, even people on the left.

00:19:21.580 I've been, you know, kind of been doing some interesting podcasting lately with people I don't usually talk to.

00:19:26.540 But I've always said MAGA was a third party.

00:19:29.860 Okay, this was essentially a third party that was founded within the Republican Party.

00:19:35.660 And it sort of started with the Tea Party, and a lot of that Tea Party DNA flowed into MAGA.

00:19:40.780 And that's the genesis of how this movement got started.

00:19:44.020 And so the fights were between the Democrats and the establishment Republicans.

00:19:48.400 It's like we have to go back and explain to people what happened.

00:19:52.320 And we're coming up, actually, on the 10-year anniversary of the escalator.

00:19:56.440 And it's amazing that people, like, you think this is just something that happens overnight.

00:20:01.780 No, no, it took us a decade of a lot of work and going through a lot of crap just to get to this point.

00:20:09.280 Final minute, Matt Boyle.

00:20:11.400 Yeah, look, and there's still more work to be done, right?

00:20:15.480 Like, so we're finally, Mitch McConnell's still a senator, right?

00:20:19.080 Like, so think about that, right?

00:20:20.580 He's been a senator since the 1980s.

00:20:22.560 He's still a senator.

00:20:23.740 He will be until next year.

00:20:25.160 But there's a huge opportunity upcoming in Kentucky, right?

00:20:28.840 There's all these, there's these two McConnell guys running, and then there's a Trump-aligned guy, this guy named Morris, that's running.

00:20:35.280 So we'll see if, you know, that's another pickup opportunity, right?

00:20:38.700 But each time there's an open seat, each time there's a credibly winnable primary, that's where to get engaged to actually continue to move the needle.

00:20:48.060 But it's, I think that Elon gets frustrated, and I agree with this rightfully so, that, you know, the things don't happen fast enough.

00:20:57.380 As much as I would like to look our fingers.

00:20:59.380 I think the frustration is understandable.

00:21:01.880 I do.

00:21:02.260 But you know what?

00:21:02.800 That's gridlock.

00:21:03.560 That's politics.

00:21:04.360 That's Congress.

00:21:05.460 Welcome.

00:21:05.820 Welcome to the game.

00:21:06.840 Matt Boyle.

00:21:07.400 Go give him a follow, folks.

00:21:08.740 Breitbart.com.

00:21:10.680 Jack Posobiec coming back right after this break.

00:21:18.060 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:21:22.980 Where is Jack?

00:21:25.300 Where is he?

00:21:26.580 Jack, I want to see you.

00:21:30.220 Great job, Jack.

00:21:31.660 Thank you.

00:21:32.440 What a job you do.

00:21:33.860 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:21:35.240 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:21:41.040 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live, Real America's Voice, and coast-to-coast on the Salem Radio Network, bringing in, of course, that third hour of the Charlie Kirk program.

00:21:55.420 So we got into this dust-up between Elon Musk and President Trump, and that's obviously still ongoing.

00:22:01.980 I'm sure President Trump's going to have some interesting truth socials for us as that comes, and we'll be looking for it if it does.

00:22:09.900 Or perhaps, you know, perhaps we're going to get a phone call, and maybe the two of them will talk things out of me.

00:22:15.860 Just got off the phone with Putin yesterday.

00:22:17.500 He was on the phone with Xi Jinping.

00:22:18.880 So we know how President Trump is when he's being diplomatic.

00:22:23.380 However, I know someone who isn't always diplomatic, and sometimes you need other methods to solve your issues.

00:22:31.400 And when you do, you might turn to, I don't know, former Special Forces sniper like Tim Kennedy.

00:22:37.180 And Tim Kennedy joins us now.

00:22:38.620 What's up, Tim?

00:22:40.060 Hey, how you doing, Jack?

00:22:42.260 Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, like, you know, when I think of Tim Kennedy, I don't think of diplomacy.

00:22:47.040 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:47.680 That's other options, other methods.

00:22:50.780 Yeah, I mean, sometimes the type of peace that we want is going to be on the far side of war.

00:22:54.780 Obviously, I'm a big proponent of violence.

00:22:56.560 I mean, I'm quick to turn to violence, but, you know, I'm happy that for the first time almost in my entire life, we are not at war.

00:23:05.860 So this is a nice change.

00:23:07.880 Well, no, I certainly agree.

00:23:09.100 But it's interesting, though, because you talk to some of these guys.

00:23:11.880 I was in a – it's funny you mention that because I was in a debate with the libertarian candidate for president, Chase Oliver, last year.

00:23:17.820 And we were talking cartels, and we were talking the narco and the rat lines across the border and fentanyl and, you know, the whole nine yards of the issue.

00:23:26.720 And I said to him, he said, you know, you're never going to stop this until you stop the demand in the north of the border.

00:23:32.700 I said, yeah, I agree that's a problem, but I do think there's other options we could use.

00:23:36.340 And he said, options like what? 0.99

00:23:38.080 And I said, well, we could just kill them. 1.00

00:23:39.680 We could just kill – we could just go after the cartels and use violence to kill them and disrupt their networks and actually take them out. 1.00

00:23:47.700 And you should have seen – just the look on – like deer in the headlights, totally frozen, going in a vapor lock. 1.00

00:23:54.480 The moderator is, like, turning at me like, what?

00:23:56.840 You can't say that.

00:23:58.000 What do you mean I can't say that?

00:23:59.500 Of course, they're cartels.

00:24:01.100 There's certain types of people that, you know, the diplomacy and the negotiation and, oh, socioeconomic issues, it just ain't going to work.

00:24:08.580 But if you take them out, that actually works pretty well.

00:24:12.540 Yeah, and I think that's going to be a really accurate representation of some problems that we're going to be having in the coming conflicts.

00:24:18.580 We are not going to be fighting against state actors.

00:24:21.400 You know, we got so comfortable fighting this named bad person, right, like these radical, fundamental, violent extremist organizations or, you know, the Germans or the Koreans or the – but now, moving forward, we're going to be fighting proxy armies.

00:24:38.240 Like we can label them Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis. 0.51

00:24:42.020 But really, they're just branches of a state actor that's funding other organizations to fight against us, just like we're going to be fighting corporations.

00:24:50.000 We're going to be fighting cartels.

00:24:51.340 We're going to be fighting syndicated criminal organizations and international criminal groups.

00:24:56.380 It's just not going to be the type of warfare that Americans had ever understood, but that's the warfare that we have in the future, and you're 100 percent right.

00:25:04.380 The only way that these people understand win or lose is really bodies on the floor.

00:25:10.640 So it's going to come down to who's dealing the death, and we're going to have to do it.

00:25:15.220 Well, and it's incredible, too, because they say, oh, these cartels, you're talking about it like it's, you know, like it's like a business operation or something.

00:25:24.180 Are you – like, guys, have people seen what's going on just south of our border and in many cases north of our border?

00:25:30.740 I'm sorry, we weren't even planning on talking about this, but it's so crazy to me when you look at the level of brutality that various cartels are operating in.

00:25:39.520 And, in fact, that's how they become the top cartel in many cases, some of which, unfortunately, at times received training from our own U.S. military,

00:25:49.760 then turned around, broke away from Mexican special forces, and then began forming their own cartels where they're doing beheadings,

00:25:56.980 they're doing family reprisals, they're doing all of this stuff.

00:25:59.780 And so when President Trump and Pete Hegseth, who's doing a fantastic job over as our SecDef,

00:26:04.660 when they actually start turning towards this problem set, I predict that, unfortunately,

00:26:09.640 there's going to be a period of time where things get worse before they get better.

00:26:13.780 Yeah, I totally concur.

00:26:15.720 And the type of violence that we're going to be seeing are – the things are horror stories.

00:26:23.460 These are people skinned alive that are hung from bridges. 0.96

00:26:26.580 Like, the best thing that could happen is you're decapitated.

00:26:29.140 But that's not really what the cartels are doing because they're trying to send a message.

00:26:33.940 They are recruiting the poor. 0.99

00:26:35.900 They are recruiting the uneducated. 0.91

00:26:37.760 And they manipulate them via leverage of, hey, we're going to destroy your family. 0.99

00:26:41.060 We're going to torture your sister. 1.00

00:26:42.740 You know, we're going to murder your wife and your kids if you don't do these things for us. 1.00

00:26:45.520 But this is the type of warfare that we have ahead of us. 0.87

00:26:47.780 You know, and we're at a very unique position where our hero-level adversaries, they want to see disruption and instability and lack of security within the United States.

00:27:00.020 So when you see Iran and you see China, you see Russia, like, let's call a spade a spade. 0.87

00:27:07.180 We are currently in a variety of ways at war with them, and those countries are using mechanisms like the cartel to destabilize Americans.

00:27:17.880 They want fentanyl in here.

00:27:19.100 They want pornography on our screens. 0.99

00:27:21.060 They want our border to be a mess because it's easier for them to operate, and a destabilized America is a vulnerable America for them.

00:27:28.840 Well, of course, look, they understand they're not going to be the Americans in a peer-to-peer battle.

00:27:35.060 The Chinese aren't going to beat us on the water, and the Russians aren't going to beat us on land.

00:27:39.480 We get that.

00:27:40.320 However, they also understand that if they can get us fighting each other, if they can get us bogged down, if they can get us totally either, as you say, wrapped up on fentanyl, wrapped up on pornography, which is sort of a digital fentanyl to begin with, then guess what?

00:27:53.600 We are going to be so worried about those internal issues and so much internal division that we're not going to be able to deal with any of these things.

00:28:00.920 And one of the things that I think President Trump is rightfully doing so is also looking around the world and understanding, okay, where do we need our footprint the most?

00:28:09.500 Where do we actually – and he's going through an assessment.

00:28:12.000 He's going through – and it's like an audit, right?

00:28:14.060 He's doing a business audit, and he's a businessman, of our foreign policy to say what makes the most sense for us.

00:28:20.260 Where can we cut a deal?

00:28:21.180 Or, by the way, where is something we can cut a deal and say, look, we've got Gulf partners here.

00:28:25.860 They could deal with this issue better than we can.

00:28:28.080 Why?

00:28:28.320 Because it's in their own backyard.

00:28:29.640 So they can deal with this.

00:28:31.060 Let's build up that partner force capacity, have them come in, take – they'll deal with the Shea Militia group or whatever it is.

00:28:37.600 Don't have to put our guys in harm's way only when it matters.

00:28:41.460 And then taking back some of these other issues here back at home.

00:28:44.140 But one of the things – and they wanted us to talk about this, and my producers are mentioning it as well – they're talking about MyPatriotSupply because, unfortunately, I do predict that we are going to go through this period of instability as all of these geopolitical forces are aimed at the United States when the United States is going through all of this.

00:29:05.100 And President Trump is helping us to rebuild Fortress America, which has been totally forgotten.

00:29:09.860 But guess what?

00:29:10.380 We're going to have the Chinese. 1.00

00:29:11.400 We're going to have the Iranians. 1.00

00:29:12.280 We're going to have the Russians. 1.00

00:29:12.960 We're going to have the cartels.

00:29:14.600 I was going viral the other day talking about what – you really think the Chinese haven't spread drones up through the border and put them on all that farmland right next to our bases to do the exact same thing that the Ukrainians just did to the Russians? 0.93

00:29:26.080 Of course they have.

00:29:27.340 Okay?

00:29:27.760 So what's the response going to be when they do that?

00:29:30.900 And, you know, one of the things that – they said, look, President Trump's going to help with that.

00:29:34.960 But one of the things that MyPatriotSupply is doing right now, they're coming in and saying, look, there's instability.

00:29:39.800 There's issues with the power grid, which we know that obviously there have been sabotage networks in this country that have been targeting our power grid.

00:29:46.900 It's just clear at this point.

00:29:48.600 And based on all the things that you're saying, you know, it's so obvious to me.

00:29:52.980 So that's why I think it's – people know MyPatriotSupply for the food.

00:29:56.800 They've just come in.

00:29:57.860 Tell me about this new Grid Doctor 3300 that they're releasing for the summer, which is the perfect time to do it.

00:30:04.020 Yeah, that thing's incredible.

00:30:07.580 I couldn't agree more, Jack.

00:30:09.460 You know, we have some very scary times ahead of us.

00:30:12.600 And you can only prepare for a crisis before the crisis occurs.

00:30:16.440 So you have to have this stuff in your home before something bad happens.

00:30:21.620 We – our entire infrastructure is incredibly vulnerable.

00:30:25.420 And we've seen that time and time again, whether it's one boat that hits a bridge and then that entire area can't even get fuel.

00:30:35.580 You know, the power falling in Texas, for example, we had one bad storm.

00:30:41.520 We lost power for almost a week.

00:30:43.600 They're rolling blackouts during a fire.

00:30:46.480 We just have a much more vulnerable system.

00:30:48.920 And we've been comfortable because it's been really, really, really nice.

00:30:51.600 But there are scary times ahead of us.

00:30:54.720 And that power bank, you know, you can stack these batteries.

00:30:58.820 You have solar panels to recharge them.

00:31:01.140 I use them in my Land Cruiser when I'm camping, when I'm going overland.

00:31:04.460 That Grid Doctor, I have been in Ukraine, Afghanistan, Mexico, using all sorts of different battery packs.

00:31:12.400 These are the best ones out there.

00:31:14.260 I mean, I travel with my family with them.

00:31:16.620 I have all of my meat backed up with that battery wall and using all of those, you know, the mechanisms to recharge those batteries.

00:31:24.440 So I never have to worry about it.

00:31:25.700 Then I don't have to live in fear.

00:31:27.040 So then no matter what happens, I know I'm good.

00:31:29.260 I know my family is good.

00:31:31.060 It's kind of back to that very original American idea of individual responsibility.

00:31:35.800 I'm not going to be looking for the government to come and help me or save me because the government is going to have its own problems.

00:31:42.500 If the grid falls, if we're having difficulties purifying water, nobody's going to come and save you.

00:31:49.060 You're going to have to self-rescue and you're going to have to have everything that you need.

00:31:52.200 We used all of this stuff in Western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene.

00:31:55.360 We were dropping those battery packs in with Elon Musk's Starlinks to give people connectivity so then we were able to find out who was actually surviving by a thread.

00:32:09.420 And these were the exact tools that we used to save lives.

00:32:14.120 And this is – look, and by the way, folks, I don't want this stuff to happen.

00:32:17.600 I would much prefer this stuff not to happen, but I also understand that for our country to get where we are now and to solve the problems that we do have right now, we've got to pass through this crucible.

00:32:28.520 We just do.

00:32:29.520 And this stuff isn't going to go away without a fight, and that will cause issues.

00:32:34.440 That's going to cause – go look at the grid in Western Europe.

00:32:37.340 We just fell apart, just completely fell apart.

00:32:39.700 The grid down in South Africa, it only works for like 12 hours a day, and they do rolling blackouts.

00:32:45.000 So the east side has power.

00:32:46.180 Now the west side has power.

00:32:47.040 You've got kids in South Africa right now that are doing their homework with flashlights, you know, flashbulbs attached to their heads basically because they don't have power.

00:32:56.120 They can't even charge their cell phones.

00:32:57.860 And so that's why – and look, folks, I don't want any of this to happen, but I want my family to be ready, right, and my friends, my loved ones to be ready should something happen.

00:33:08.700 And that's why when you look at the grid doctor, when you look at the stuff that MyPatriotSupply has, and we've got it up, MyPatriotSupply.com slash Jack.

00:33:15.700 You go, you take a look for yourself, you take a look at the deals that are out there right now.

00:33:19.600 There are some great deals, and boom, you can have that peace of mind.

00:33:24.020 I always say, you know, when it comes to their food kits, just grab one, throw in the trunk of your car.

00:33:28.820 Just throw in the trunk of your car.

00:33:29.940 You have some car trouble.

00:33:30.860 I actually had some car trouble this week.

00:33:32.120 I mentioned it the other day, and I didn't have the kids in the car with me.

00:33:34.940 But God forbid, right, God forbid, because we've got two little boys, and, you know, they start getting a little antsy.

00:33:39.700 They need a little something.

00:33:40.980 You just, you know, waiting for that tow truck, AAA, whatever it is, you've got something that's going to be on.

00:33:45.980 So MyPatriotSupply.com slash Jack.

00:33:49.180 They've got two waterproof 200-watt solar panels that you can get in for free.

00:33:53.700 That's a $900, almost $900 value.

00:33:56.880 It's a ton.

00:33:57.760 Go and check it out.

00:33:58.920 Folks, we are on with Tim Kennedy.

00:34:00.780 We've got a quick break right now.

00:34:02.800 We're going to come back.

00:34:03.920 President Trump's response to Elon is out.

00:34:07.440 We're going to read that for you right after the break.

00:34:10.200 Stay tuned.

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00:34:22.200 He's written a fantastic book.

00:34:23.880 Everybody's talking about it.

00:34:25.060 Go get it.

00:34:26.240 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:34:30.100 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great.

00:34:32.800 Thank you, man.

00:34:33.420 Amen.

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00:35:35.100 President Trump has responded to Elon Musk, and as promised, we're not going to pull punches here, and certainly President Trump isn't either.

00:35:43.300 We're going to read it in full.

00:35:45.120 So President Trump's first response, Elon was wearing thin.

00:35:48.760 I asked him to leave.

00:35:49.800 I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted.

00:35:55.400 He knew for months I was going to do it, and he just went crazy.

00:35:58.780 That was the first truth social.

00:36:00.440 The second truth social, though, is much, much more over the top than this one.

00:36:06.140 He says, the easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars, is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts.

00:36:15.460 I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it.

00:36:19.500 So we're on with Tim Kennedy, folks, and we've been talking about the domestic instability and destabilization, and I guess we're seeing a little destabilization here.

00:36:29.320 But, Tim, you and I were just chatting during the break as we were reading these that people aren't used to seeing this because this is the way that alpha males communicate.

00:36:38.780 This is the way that men talk to each other.

00:36:40.860 When they have a problem, they hash it out.

00:36:42.660 They go hard.

00:36:43.640 Guess what?

00:36:44.320 This is how my brother and I talk to each other when we go at it, right?

00:36:47.480 He's still my brother, but when we go at it, we go hard, and we go hard in the paint.

00:36:52.240 This is not the rule by consensus, Biden, like, oh, let's go have a committee for him.

00:36:57.120 No, we're going to go hard, and then we're going to make the decision.

00:36:59.900 What's your take on all this?

00:37:02.580 Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

00:37:04.540 This is actually effective communication.

00:37:08.180 And I know every C-suite HR person is pulling their hair out.

00:37:13.600 Like, you can't talk like this in government.

00:37:15.200 No, this is actually how you get things done.

00:37:17.880 When you have high-agency people that aren't looking for the permission of other people about how to say things, when to say things, they're not going to say, hey, let's take a vote about if it's okay for me to push back on this idea.

00:37:30.760 President Trump is the president.

00:37:32.600 And then Elon Musk was an advisor, a special employee, but he really had no authority or authorization that wasn't granted by the president.

00:37:45.540 So you have to be on that team.

00:37:47.700 You're 100% behind the president, or if you're not value-added, then you're going to be a detriment to the objectives and initiatives that the president's trying to do.

00:37:56.280 So everybody knows that Elon Musk is brilliant, as does President Trump.

00:38:01.180 President Trump is going to be absolutely direct.

00:38:03.960 We're just not used to this being public.

00:38:06.660 We're not used to people having these communications in front of billions of other people.

00:38:11.840 But that's what's happening.

00:38:12.800 These are just two high-agency people that are trying to hash it out a little bit.

00:38:16.720 And we have to – well, I guess we get to sit and watch with a little bit of popcorn.

00:38:20.880 They were all along for the ride.

00:38:23.540 But, no, I actually appreciate this.

00:38:25.660 You know, this is something where, you know, in the past, we're always asked – we didn't even know for four years who the president was.

00:38:32.220 And it probably wasn't Joe Biden.

00:38:33.840 We had this auto pen, and whoever was controlling it, did Hunter Biden pardon himself, all this.

00:38:38.240 And right now, you're actually seeing just – I don't know, part of me wants to step back and say,

00:38:42.720 you're seeing something that, as you say, would normally be behind closed doors.

00:38:48.320 But what an opportunity to actually see how the sausage is made, how the decisions are going down, how these conversations are happening.

00:38:56.240 And, yeah, and what two better individuals on the planet than two of certainly the most powerful people,

00:39:01.660 the richest man in the world and the most powerful president in the world just having it out.

00:39:06.020 Yeah, we just saw President Trump, you know, at the border, and there's a video from Secret Service where they wanted to pull him off to the side to do an interview.

00:39:15.620 And he said, well, one of the people right here said that it's not safe for me to go over there.

00:39:20.760 Even, like, if that were President Biden, if a handler had said, hey, you need to shuffle over there, he would have just walked over there mindlessly.

00:39:28.740 You know, but what we see is we see the man in charge.

00:39:31.300 We see the proper executive in the White House, in the West Wing that's making decisions, and you're either going to be supporting him.

00:39:39.560 You know, if you are one of the appointees that were then confirmed, you are 100% going to be in that camp.

00:39:44.600 Whether you are a former Democrat, whether it says director or secretary in front of your name,

00:39:50.380 you are going to work for him, with him to support his agenda, his initiatives as part of his administration,

00:39:56.880 or you're going to get the raw end of a couple of true social posts.

00:40:02.960 Look, I said it before, I'll say it again.

00:40:05.340 I voted for Donald Trump in the election.

00:40:07.580 I didn't vote for anybody else.

00:40:08.880 JD, of course, was on the ballot as well.

00:40:10.600 But that's who I voted for.

00:40:12.000 That's who America voted for.

00:40:13.680 It was a team effort.

00:40:14.400 Of course it was a team effort.

00:40:15.580 Was it a coalition?

00:40:16.300 Of course it was a coalition.

00:40:17.480 But again, this is how high agency, I love the way you put it.

00:40:20.860 This is how high agency individuals communicate.

00:40:24.260 And you just got to see it.

00:40:25.000 Tim, we're just out of time.

00:40:26.240 Where can people go to follow you, brother?

00:40:28.880 Yeah, Tim Kennedy MMA on the social medias, you know.

00:40:31.440 But like, just keep fighting for this America.

00:40:33.340 This war is not over for our country.

00:40:36.080 God, we won in November.

00:40:37.340 We have to keep fighting.

00:40:38.840 Do not count your wins.

00:40:40.220 We got to keep fighting.

00:40:41.220 So, Jack, thank you for everything that you do.

00:40:44.000 God bless.

00:40:44.680 Likewise.

00:40:45.480 Folks, go be sure to check out mypatriotsupply.com slash Jack.

00:40:49.960 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

00:40:56.240 We'll be out.

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 05, 2025

The Battle Of The Bill - Huge Schism Over Mass Deportation Bill In Congress

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