The Big Beautiful Deportation Bill and Trump Vs Elon Round 2
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Alligator Alcatraz opens to detainees today, despite protests and a federal lawsuit. The Justice Department is launching a lawsuit claiming L.A.'s Sanctuary City Ordinance is in part to blame for the violence. Zorhan Mandami, who in his nomination speech said he will defy ICE, will not allow ICE to arrest criminal aliens in New York City.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Senator Doug Alligator Alcatraz opens to detainees today despite protests and a federal lawsuit.
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The ICE facility is on the side of a remote airfield in the heart of the Everglades.
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Very soon, this facility will house some of the most menacing migrants, some of the most
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We're surrounded by miles of treacherous swampland, and the only way out is really deportation.
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The Justice Department is launching a lawsuit claiming L.A.'s Sanctuary City Ordinance
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This lawsuit is about the supremacy clause and who gets to set immigration laws in the United
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Zorhan Mandami, who in his nomination speech said he will defy ICE and will not allow ICE
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Look, we don't need a communist in this country, but if we have one, I'm going to be watching
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over him very carefully on behalf of the nation.
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The yeas are 50, the nays are 50, the Senate being evenly divided, the vice president votes
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in the affirmative, the bill as amended is passed.
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We might have to put Doge on Elon, you know what Doge is?
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Doge is the monster that might have to go back and eat Elon, wouldn't that be terrible?
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But Elon's very upset that the EV mandate is going to be terminated, and you know what?
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When you look at it, who wants, not everybody wants an electric car.
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I want to have maybe gasoline, maybe electric, maybe a hybrid.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here
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The big, beautiful bill passing in the United States Senate.
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And there's some people who aren't too happy about the vote.
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Elon Musk coming out and saying that he is totally against this.
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And in fact, saying that he will work to primary members of the House who go and vote for it.
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And in fact, he's now backing Thomas Massey, who has been one of President Trump's proverbial
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And Trump, of course, is now backing different challengers to Thomas Massey.
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I don't believe they've chosen a specific one as of yet.
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The disparity, the disruption that you see on the financial side is 100% true.
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However, there is a larger threat to the United States of America than an economic downturn or
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That is the threat of the mass immigration crisis.
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And the mass immigration crisis is the foundational issue upon which MAGA was built.
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That's what President Trump talked about when he came down the golden escalator.
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And every single moment from that time till now has been about deporting every single last
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person who shouldn't be in this country back to where they came from, or at least somewhere
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You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
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So whether it's Alligator Alcatraz or Guantanamo Bay or whatever it is, I don't particularly care.
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I don't want to give my kids a country where every single public place is completely overrun,
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And there's been too much time spent, I think, on side quests.
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Let's get back to the main quest, boys and girls.
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And the main quest is getting our country back to the country we were all born in.
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So folks, there's a lot of people who have a lot of ideas about this big, beautiful bill.
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And one of the issues that I have with it, frankly, is the remittance tax.
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All the money that they're sending back to these foreign countries, no.
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It functions as a tariff because it keeps the money here at home, operating within our
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But that being said, it focuses on the main quest.
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It provides that money and funding and financing to the mass deportations that America and all
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Americans have been waiting for and petitioning their government for for years.
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Someone who I think it's interesting that we're going to talk about this because I'm going
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to bring on a foreigner right now to to to get in on this.
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His name, of course, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, but you may know him online as the raw egg
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So so why why am I bringing on a foreigner here when when I'm launching this completely
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Well, I think you understand that I have a certain amount of insight, maybe into America's
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future and maybe into the future of cities like New York.
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I mean, you know, we've been talking over the past couple of days about Zoran Mamdami and
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about what he might do to New York and whether New York is only just a few years behind London
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in terms of its basically degeneration into third world conditions.
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So Sadiq Khan gets elected mayor of London a decade ago.
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And now you've got this huge deterioration of London in that time frame where he's been
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All of a sudden, we're seeing at the same time, New York City suddenly has Zoran Mamdami,
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someone a name that none of us have heard before.
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And I think that's kind of a similar trajectory from Sadiq Khan.
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I mean, had he been someone who was really part of the national discourse prior to that?
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I mean, I think he was a pretty low level Labour politician.
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And then he was put forward in the London mayoral race.
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The Conservatives fielded, I think, Zach Goldsmith, who was who is the son of a former Conservative
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I mean, London's been going downhill for a long time, probably for the better part of
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And I think that's probably true of New York, too.
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I think that, you know, I mean, you had some of the decline was arrested by Rudy Giuliani,
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you know, with his kind of very tough on crime measures.
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But actually, I think what, you know, what this needs this fits into is a broader pattern
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And there's absolutely no doubt that crime in London is far, far worse under Sadiq Khan.
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You know, since 2016, Londoners are taxed more than ever.
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Sadiq Khan has brought in, for instance, fairly recently, this ultra low emission zone tax.
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So now not only do you have to pay a congestion charge to go into the centre of London, you
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also have to pay this ultra low emission zone, this ULEZ tax, which is enforced with these
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special cameras that they've mounted on the streets.
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So you're effectively getting like a double whack of tax every time you go into London from
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the Ring Road, the M25 that runs around London.
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You know, Londoners are paying more and more for declining living standards.
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It's obvious, you know, Londoners all talk about it.
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If you get in a taxi in London, and you actually happen to have a British taxi driver now, because
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a lot of them are Somali and foreign, and they don't even speak English.
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But if you speak to a traditional London cabbie, he'll say, London isn't the same city.
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And it looks like, you know, 25 years after 9-11, New York is going to have a Muslim mayor.
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And I think that that is not only indicative of, of trends in America more broadly with
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mass immigration, but also in particular trends in New York.
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You know, you've had New York flooded with migrants, these sanctuary policies.
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And New York has changed so much that now, yes, 25 years since 9-11, it's it's conceivable
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that actually you'll have a you'll have a Muslim mayor.
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Well, and this is what's interesting, too, is because you see this massive it's actually
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a tripling of South Asian, so Indian, Pakistani and Middle Eastern immigration to the New York
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City metro area has tripled since that time of 9-11.
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It's it's gone up and absolutely skyrocketed since then.
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And so people point out to say, well, wait a minute, you know, the the the exact coalition
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that Mamdani was able to put together say, well, it's not just all all, you know, all
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immigrants is it? No, it's no, it isn't. But the effect of mass immigration has created
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a sense where because I saw some other social scientists were kind of disagreeing with my
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analysis. They said, well, wait a minute. You know, what about the blacks and Hispanics?
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Because they largely voted for Andrew Cuomo. And the point is, is you sort of got old New
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York versus new New York because he's able to peel off the the Gen Zers who can now vote.
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So you're 18 to 29. He's able to peel off your white theater kid liberals, and he's able
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to pull off something like 80 percent of the South Asian vote.
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And that's simply a coalition that's able to defeat the previous working class.
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And, you know, with with somewhat of a Wall Street backing type candidate like a Cuomo.
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So new New York is actually beating old New York.
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And this is very similar to what we saw in London a decade ago.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the the demographic changes that have taken place in London have,
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like you say, they've pushed out old London, if you will, you know, they push white English
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people, white British people out to the margins of the city and even beyond the city into neighboring
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counties like Essex and Kent. You know, you've seen a wholesale demographic replacement in the
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city. And of course, it's changed the politics. And so, of course, it's changed the politics
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in New York as well. Working class neighborhoods, working class voters don't matter. Class as a
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class as a mobilizing force isn't key here. It's identity politics. And that includes, like you said,
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the white Gen Z and millennials. And it's important, actually, I think, to understand that although,
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you know, Gen Z, you know, white Gen Z and millennial voters haven't been sort of put into New York
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through mass immigration, their opinions, their values, nevertheless, have been massively,
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massively, I think, affected and determined by mass immigration so that it is, you know, so that you
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do have these sort of hipster kind of Bushwick millennials and Zoomers who are all absolutely,
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absolutely crazy about Zoran Mandami. No, of course. Simply because he is a South Asian Muslim.
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And so this is what they do. Interesting book that came out about a year ago about that. We'll be right
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back with more of the Raw Egg Nationalist on Human Events Daily. Talk about influencers. These are
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, about how these similar conditions and similar forces that we've seen
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in London a decade ago that he saw and experienced in London are very, very similar to the pressures we're
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seeing in New York City play out today. And in many ways, New York is just a decade behind where London
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is. And how this, it's just this mass flood of immigrants will inevitably, it'll change your
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demographics, it will change your politics, and it will change the character of your country. Because
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of course, these will all be led behind it. And now, this is one of the things that I've said when we
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talk about the Big Beautiful Bill, there's so many people who want to focus on the issues with it.
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And I say, focus on the fact that at least the one thing that it does do, right, and this is why I'm
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behind it so much, the Big Beautiful Bill. And I want it to become the Big Beautiful Law, because it
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centers us back on the main quest. And the main quest is mass deportation. So, Raw Egg, if you could,
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walk us through why it is that immigration is sort of the main quest. And if we allow ourselves to be
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distracted and spend political capital on various other issues, or I'm not saying they don't exist
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and aren't out there, but ultimately, this one thing will alter or destroy your entire country
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if you don't focus on it. Yeah, well, you know, there's been a lot of talk on Twitter about the
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Big Beautiful Bill, about the benefits and the deficits. And look, I mean, no, no bill is perfect.
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Every single bill that is passed, every single law is a product of compromise, where you have to
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weigh competing interests, you have to achieve some kind of consensus by making concessions. And that
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involves chipping away at certain aspects of a, you know, an ideally presented initial bill. You know,
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so we've had the remittance tax chipped down, for example. But yeah, this idea of immigration being
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the main quest in MAGA is absolutely true. And people have been saying on Twitter, look,
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what do you want? What kind of America do you want in 30 years time? Do you want an America that has
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a much lower deficit, let's say, but is demographically a totally different country?
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So you don't pass the Big Beautiful Bill. And, you know, whatever effects the Big Beautiful Bill
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might have had on the national debt, you know, they don't happen. But you don't fund the border
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wall. You don't provide more funding for ICE and for, you know, for DHS and deportations, etc. So you
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get a totally changed America. Or in 30 years time, maybe you have an America that has a bit more debt,
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or even significantly more debt. But the demographic change has been arrested and reversed. And America
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is still then fundamentally America. So I mean, I think that that is the best way to put it, you know,
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it's like, okay, you can reduce the deficit, but then you don't do anything about demographics, or you do
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something about demographics, which is, I think, the fundamental problem. Because if America's demographics
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change any, any, any more, then America is going to be a different country. And the economic side
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won't matter. So yes, I mean, this is, immigration is the main quest. It was like you said, it was the
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main quest when Donald Trump came down that escalator 10 years ago, it's always been the central MAGA
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quest. All of the other things are side quests. This is the MAGA agenda. And ultimately, look, you're not
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going to get a better bill than this, I don't think now is the time to fund deportation to fund the
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building of the border wall, and to get all of these millions and millions of people out of America,
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before actually America is changed for good, and you can't do anything about it.
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There's never going to be a position or a politician like Donald Trump, he's never going to be at a
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position where he's at the zenith of his power, more than he is right now. He's there. This is it.
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We are at the pinnacle. This is the pivotal moment that everyone has been waiting for. And yes, of
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course, politics is the art of the possible, as they say. And I'm here in Washington, D.C., and I
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can tell you that's definitely how it works on a day-to-day basis. But think of the Overton window
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shift from 10 years ago, you know, President Trump, he could only really, when he was Mr. Trump,
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real estate developer Trump, candidate Trump, could only talk about a wall, but he would say why we need
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the wall. And he would describe the character of the people who were coming over. And the media
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instantly, and Don Lemon and CNN instantly attacked him for this, saying, how dare you even question
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this? Now, you notice, they talk about the treatment. They'll say, oh, you're sending them
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to Alligator Alcatraz. Oh, you're sending them to El Salvador. But they don't defend the types of people
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who are here illegally because they've seen the numbers. They've seen President Trump win
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by winning the popular vote and winning this massive victory in every single swing state, because
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Americans absolutely want this. And you've seen a galvanization of the American people as well. 55%
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support all mass immigration. It's done. Just final minute to you. Could you talk us through
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how significant it is of where we've come from in the last 10 years to get to this point?
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Yeah, well, like you say, the Overton window has shifted enormously. When Trump took power in 2016,
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you know, he was pretty radical, but nowhere near as radical as he is now. You know,
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a huge amount has happened in 2016. You know, I mean, he laid the seeds, he laid the groundwork,
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really, you know, for what he's finally, finally getting around to doing now, which is actually
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addressing the fundamental issue, which is mass immigration. You know, he's been subject to
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incredible reversals. 2020, the stealing of the election, he nearly had his head blown off
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on national television. All of these things have, I think, radicalized him and pushed him, I think,
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to a position where actually he is really prepared now to do what is necessary. This is his second term.
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He doesn't have to run for re-election. He doesn't have to worry about, let's say, momentary
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sort of political advantage. He really can pursue a radical agenda.
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Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're
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always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys
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should be getting politicians. All right, Jack, what's up? Here we are back live human events
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daily. We're here in Washington, D.C. By the way, I've got some other shout outs in the chat here.
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People talking about, of course, alligator Alcatraz down in Florida, really driving the news today. So
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a lot of people saying, though, as well, you know, what about the other states? What about the other
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regions of the United States? So we've been going back and forth. Let's see. We got the Arizona Hot
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Box or the Arizona Rattlesnake Roundup, the Jersey Gridlock, the D.C. Swamp, the Philly Pen,
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the Texas Dustvale, Tennessee Hollows, the Yukon Labor Camps, the Georgia Pit, Louisiana, of course,
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the Bayou Bastille, Hawaii, the Volcano Vault, Oklahoma, the Tornado Towers. And personally,
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I love this, the Northern California Grizzly Gulags. I really, really, really am looking forward
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to the Grizzly Gulags. I'm sure the Supreme Court will have a lot to say about all of this, but I
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wanted to get into some of this with the Supreme Court. And so we saw these decisions come out last
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week. And one in particular that's really got a lot of people talking, of course, was the back and
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forth between Ketanji Brown-Jackson and her dissent, as well as Amy Coney Barrett writing for the majority
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on this question of nationwide injunctions. And a lot of heated words back and forth. Of course,
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Amy Coney Barrett running, I believe, the initial welcoming party for Ketanji Brown-Jackson
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and playing the theme song from Hamilton for her when she was welcomed. So we knew we had to bring
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someone in to break all this down for us. So I had to get Will Chamberlain to your counsel for
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the Article 3 project. What's up, Will? Not much, man. Before we get started, I do want to,
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since you were talking about Alligator Alcatraz, I want to give a shout out to Florida Attorney General
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James Uthmeyer, a former colleague of mine, both in Florida and a former member of the Law Journal I was
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on. Actually, he's a fellow Georgetown Law alum. So he's an absolute badass. You should try and have
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Good shot. He's done great work. I got to say, though, I've been watching some of his stuff lately.
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I don't think he needs the beard. I think he can. I think he actually pulls off the clean
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shave and look better. Just my two cents. Just my two cents. Just my two cents.
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I don't think the beard is bad. I'm just saying clean shave for him. I think it works for some folks.
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J.D., myself, the beard is better. President Trump, nah, he doesn't need the beard. James,
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go back to the clean shave. I think you work better. That's just my two cents. I think I see
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something going on down there on the Will Chamberlain chinstrap there.
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A little bit. A little bit of a chinstrap. Okay. So when we're looking at these,
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this thing, I mean, just incredibly viral. First, it was Amy Coney Barrett's majority decision,
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or majority opinion, rather, that, you know, that a lot of people saw. But then people even
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started, myself included, looking at Ketanji Brown's dissent, and it was ridiculous. And some
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people think it was written by AI. I'm actually not sure. I think she wrote this herself in some
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extent. I mean, she's got slang in there. She's got millennial colloquialisms in there. I mean,
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Will, just give us the context. Is this the type of stuff that we usually see coming out of a
00:27:41.240
Supreme Court? No, I don't think I've seen a more strident dissent ever. And I've seen,
00:27:48.460
I've read some very aggressive dissents from people like Scalia, who was known for writing very pointed
00:27:52.920
dissents. But this was extremely strident and flippant. And as a result, she got smoked,
00:28:00.740
in the majority opinion, in very aggressive terms. And I talked a lot about this last week
00:28:08.100
with a few people. But it's not just that Justice Barrett put out this opinion. It's that six
00:28:13.980
conservative justices signed on to an opinion that was overtly mocking of Justice Jackson's legal
00:28:20.180
reasoning. And that really shows that, I mean, the bulk of the court basically just doesn't even
00:28:24.920
take her seriously anymore. They don't think she's smart. And that's not good for her, because she's
00:28:30.820
she's in the minority. So, you know, she's just going to get to write furious, weak, pointless
00:28:36.600
dissents for the next, what, 20 years until the Democrats get a majority again. She won't be able
00:28:40.500
to have any meaningful influence over the bulk of the court. She won't be able to pull them onto her
00:28:45.500
way on a moderate case. If they end up agreeing with her, it's despite her, not because of her.
00:28:50.460
Well, and so and this is this is crazy, right? This is this idea that you would even have judge. And
00:28:56.060
and by the way, well, so even though Amy Coney Barrett, she authored the opinion, the other
00:29:02.220
justices, including Chief Justice Roberts, signed off on the on the on this. So they saw what she
00:29:08.220
wrote and said, yeah, I endorse that. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. They were willing to have
00:29:14.680
her basic have six justices criticized her dissent as not being based in law at all. Wow. And you have
00:29:22.720
to you have to go back to I mean, what is her theory? Her theory is that the judicial power
00:29:26.920
is basically unconstrained and judges should go around, unprompted by a case or controversy,
00:29:34.100
unconstrained by laws passed by Congress or the Constitution, saying you the executive are doing
00:29:39.100
something illegal, stop it. And it's like, that's not our system of government, because that would
00:29:42.720
place the Supreme Court above the executive and legislative branches. And we have a co-equal system
00:29:48.320
of government with co-equal branches. And in the same way that the executive and legislative
00:29:52.960
branches are constrained in various ways, so is the court. And the court is constrained both by the
00:29:58.100
Constitution and by laws passed by Congress, and therefore can't actually do anything it wants,
00:30:04.820
can't stop every instance of illegality in the executive branch because its own jurisdiction is
00:30:10.620
constrained. And this is something where, you know, and I read there were a ton of her dissent. I mean,
00:30:16.720
it's, it's actually kind of interesting, because you could almost label this the no kings descent,
00:30:21.360
because that's what she kept trying to say over and over and over. Oh, America doesn't have a king.
00:30:25.080
America doesn't have a king. And then she cited, she cited Hamilton. So she cites Hamilton as this,
00:30:32.860
who is, and I realized something, I said, wait a minute, this just goes back to my contention. These are
00:30:37.960
all theater kids. They get all of their actual knowledge of history from media and the consumption
00:30:44.960
of fiction rather than reality. Because one thing, of course, that they don't mention in the Hamilton
00:30:50.480
musical, or at least not into any, in any great extent, is that Hamilton, of course, Alexander
00:30:54.980
Hamilton was famously a monarchist. He wanted a king. He was one of the people who was championing
00:31:01.460
for this. And in fact, the reason that we have the, the Constitution at all is because the previous
00:31:07.200
system, which lacked an executive, fell apart and collapsed. The, the entire point of the exercise
00:31:13.280
of creating the Constitution was to create a stronger executive, but also place, place it
00:31:20.600
within the bounds of these checks and balances of the judiciary and the legislature. But well, in,
00:31:24.980
in her, uh, in, in nowhere in her dissent, did she seem to have any even understanding of this?
00:31:32.240
No, if anything, she criticized it as legalese. I mean, I actually have her opinion pulled up,
00:31:36.760
you know, that I just, this actually just, you should just read from this because people need
00:31:41.000
to understand what this dissent said. Quote, to hear the majority tell it, this suit raises a
00:31:46.240
mind numbingly technical query, are universal injunctions sufficiently analogous to the relief
00:31:51.660
issued by the High Court of Chancery in England at the time of the adoption of the Constitution.
00:31:56.160
But that legalese is a smokescreen. I'm sorry, whoa, step back, step back. You're mocking,
00:32:02.960
and the whole point of her dissent is this argument, oh, we must force the executive to
00:32:07.480
follow the law. And then when the majority says, well, we all, we also need to follow the law.
00:32:13.060
Here is the law that governs our authority and exactly how far it reaches. She's like,
00:32:18.180
oh, that's a dumb, mind numbingly technical legalese inquiry. Well, then you couldn't,
00:32:21.820
you say the same about whatever your criticism of the executive branches, like the executive could
00:32:26.500
get up and say, well, you had the Supreme Court's making this argument about what I can and can't do,
00:32:30.340
but that's a mind numbingly technical legalese theory. I'm going to do what I want. It's she,
00:32:34.460
it's, it's internally inconsistent, dramatically so. Right. And this, and of course, you know,
00:32:40.740
this, this part of the thesis of, uh, the book that, uh, Joshua Lysak and myself put out last year,
00:32:47.180
the unhumans secretory of communist revolutions and how to crush them was, this is exactly what
00:32:53.320
they do. They do this every time where they say this power is, it's essentially, it's akin to just
00:32:59.000
sort of the meme of saying, it's good when I do it and it's bad when you do it. And it really just
00:33:04.840
comes down to that. And, you know, I'm sorry to the folks who get upset when I say this, but this
00:33:09.240
is why the friend enemy distinction exists in politics, that sometimes it's just, these people
00:33:14.540
are my friends and I like them and these people are my foes and I dislike them. And that's really
00:33:19.640
all it comes down to. So I wish by the way, that we could go back to the previous systems and actually
00:33:24.760
have this, you know, system of law and the checks and balances and all this. Right. But when you
00:33:29.500
have people like Atanji Brown Jackson and you have a significant and a non insignificant part of this
00:33:34.440
country, uh, the MSNBC crowd, basically who totally agree with her, they will completely agree with
00:33:41.280
every single word of her dissent and they will be left scratching their heads, trying to figure out
00:33:46.720
why it is that they were slapped down in the first place. It's because they've, they've just
00:33:51.020
willfully and, and over a long period of time had a completely fried mental model of the world.
00:33:57.060
And I really do attribute this just to, just to mass media and fiction and the mass consumption
00:34:02.180
of pop history rather than actually understanding our true history. Of course, well, this begs the
00:34:07.240
question of, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Atanji Brown Jackson, Harvard law?
00:34:13.160
Yeah. Harvard law, just because you got into Harvard law, it doesn't mean you're all that sharp. I can
00:34:16.780
speak as someone who went to an elite law school that I wasn't that impressed with a decent
00:34:20.740
number of my colleagues, like just because you had to do a good law school and graduated from it.
00:34:25.220
Doesn't mean you have a good handle on the law. And this is really basic constitutional law 101.
00:34:31.060
The law of standing is something you discuss in your first year of law school. The idea of
00:34:34.820
constrained judicial powers is something you discuss in your first year of law school. And it's
00:34:38.420
definitely something you cover in detail in a class called federal courts, which is something that
00:34:44.020
anybody interested in clerking and is going to take. So yeah, this stuff is actually fairly
00:34:49.380
straightforward. And part of the reason that I think the six conservative justices were so angry
00:34:56.020
is that this is stuff a 1L would have gotten. They would have looked at her arguments and her
00:35:00.180
dissent and been like, Ketanji, what are you thinking? This isn't even close. This repudiates
00:35:06.340
the law of standing that our court has developed over hundreds of years. It's like, you know,
00:35:10.820
there are close questions in the law. This isn't even one of them. Is the Supreme Court's jurisdiction
00:35:15.940
constrained? Yes. Do we have to obey the Judiciary Act of 1789 when considering
00:35:20.980
our equitable jurisdiction? Yes, because that's where it was granted. No, no kidding.
00:35:26.660
No, and it's amazing because, again, you have a situation where people are pushed through and,
00:35:33.460
you know, just gonna have to say it, right? This is exactly why people were so worried and so
00:35:39.220
concerned about the rise and use of DEI in hiring practices, in politics, certainly because people
00:35:47.380
were chosen because not because of their ability to analyze law. Elena Kagan, right? You know,
00:35:53.460
she wouldn't be making arguments like this. But instead, we know that Joe Biden, when he was
00:35:59.860
president and, you know, I've made the argument that, in fact, she was not a DEI hire. She was an
00:36:05.380
auto-pen hire and probably illegitimate because of that. We don't actually know who dominated her
00:36:13.540
in the first place and certainly who signed that commission. But the issue is, of course,
00:36:19.060
that we knew that he said, I'm going to choose an African-American woman and then did so,
00:36:25.300
which is the opposite of President Trump, who came up and said, I'm going to choose the best person for
00:36:29.620
the job. And I'm always going to do that. And he certainly did when he chose his Supreme Court
00:36:34.340
justices. And he absolutely did with J.D. Vance as vice president. Jack Posobiec,
00:36:39.540
we'll be right back here at Human Events Daily.
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All right, Jack Posobiec. Here we are back live. Human events daily on Real America's Voice. The only
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there at Alligator Alcatraz. Brian Glenn, camera crew, everyone who was there getting all the questions in.
00:38:24.260
A fantastic, fantastic job by the team who was there. President Trump, by the way, tweeting
00:38:30.740
during the show. I just caught up on some of his posts saying that, number one, of course,
00:38:35.460
congratulating the passage of the big, beautiful bill in the Senate. Goes through, says he's urging
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the House to complete it so that it can be done and you and your family can have it before we go in
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America on the July 4th vacation. The American people need and deserve it. They sent us here to
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00:39:08.980
all. He said, have fun. Amazing. Will Chamberlain, we're back on. We're talking about the Supreme Court
00:39:15.460
here. Ketanji Brown Jackson, this just ridiculous dissent from her. So for folks that are watching
00:39:22.340
back at home, you know, is there any real relief to this? I mean, I don't know if my little idea of
00:39:29.220
getting her decommissioned as a Supreme Court justice is really viable. Obviously, impeachment
00:39:35.860
is possible, but you know, perhaps politically untenable. What's the real best case for the
00:39:43.380
future of Ketanji Brown Jackson? Because she's quite young and she'll be there for a while.
00:39:48.500
Yeah, I think she'll, I think I'd rather have her stay on the court in a liberal seat. You know,
00:39:53.140
we don't need, we need five. We don't need, we don't need nine. Six is in fact good because it gives us
00:39:58.180
and cushion. But I'm fine with her being one of a minority of three discrediting and humiliating
00:40:02.980
liberal jurisprudence for the next 30 years. I think that's great. You know, if there's going
00:40:08.660
to be a liberal wing of the court, it would be better if they made arguments that were facile
00:40:12.420
and frivolous and led people to understand like, oh, these people aren't even serious and they would
00:40:17.220
destroy the country if we let them have power. So maybe we shouldn't. So I don't, I don't really
00:40:22.900
think there's a reasonable way to remove her. I mean, I don't think any Supreme Court justice has ever
00:40:26.260
been impeached. So I do think we're stuck with her until she goes, but so long as she's in the
00:40:31.140
minority, she doesn't threaten the conservative legal project because no one takes her seriously.
00:40:38.260
So she can't even persuade moderates like Roberts and Barrett to agree with her.
00:40:44.420
Well, you know, it's amazing because, uh, and that's a brilliant point to, uh, uh, producer Angelo
00:40:49.380
here, producer Foz is saying that, you know, there's, there's value in having someone around
00:40:54.580
who is always wrong. There's value because, because number one, and in some cases it's,
00:41:00.180
it's more valuable than having someone that's either, either always right or sometimes right.
00:41:04.340
Because here's, here's what's interesting is that when you have someone who's sometimes right,
00:41:08.660
you, as you say, they can be, they can persuade people. They are, they could be smarter. They could be
00:41:13.380
more skillful. They could persuade people of their position. But when you have the person who's always wrong,
00:41:18.820
you can always just do the opposite of what they say. You'll be correct. You'll have the right
00:41:23.380
decision. So, so now going forward, unless she figures this out, which I doubt she, you know,
00:41:28.820
she will become the person that for the rest of the justices, they say, it's almost like a poison
00:41:33.700
pill. If she gets behind something to say, oh, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
00:41:38.500
KBJ is on board with this. All right, hold on. Let me, let me reexamine my position.
00:41:42.260
Right. Let me recheck the logic on this one. I must've made a mistake somewhere. Yeah. Uh,
00:41:47.380
I think she, you know, the deep irony, she might be the Washington general of the Supreme Court,
00:41:52.100
right? She's just for, whereas the six and serve the justices of the Harlem Globetrotters,
00:41:55.940
a little ironic under the circumstances, but that's, I think that's her role going forward.
00:42:00.100
Like she's just, she's there to get beaten up on and be wrong consistently.
00:42:05.220
And it's really something too, as well, where, you know, I, I think that the left understands this
00:42:10.040
because I don't see anyone defending her. Uh, I haven't seen MSNBC trying to rally the troops.
00:42:14.540
I haven't seen Rachel Maddow go out. Uh, Joy Reid's not even on air anymore, really. So she's not there
00:42:20.320
to, you know, rally anything. Morning Joe hasn't mentioned this at all. So it's, I think they all sort of
00:42:25.340
realized that this is a losing bet and Hey, we're, we're not going to throw good money behind a bad
00:42:30.780
investment and we're just going to leave it as that. Then unfortunately we, we bought ourselves
00:42:35.580
a clunker and we're, she's going to be there as a testament to the only, the only surviving piece
00:42:42.400
of Joe Biden's legacy, other than the millions of illegals that of course, hopefully, uh, Stephen
00:42:47.500
Miller and Tom Homan will be working through and making short work of once they get the funding
00:42:52.740
that they need. Will Chamberlain, where can people follow you and the good work of the
00:42:56.160
article three project? Yeah. You can follow me at, at Will Chamberlain, um, and on Twitter
00:43:02.480
and follow the article three action project at a3paction.com. We also just put out a judicial
00:43:07.980
sabotage tracker. So you can check that out. I believe at judicial sabotage.org.
00:43:13.000
Okay. And by the way, from myself and Tanya, congratulations to you and Jordan just announced
00:43:17.560
number two is on the way. So best of love. God bless you guys. Yeah. Thank you, Jack.
00:43:22.740
All right. And folks, incredible day, huge wins for president Trump. We're getting rid
00:43:28.060
of them. We're rounding them up, started alligator Alcatraz, and then move them all the way out.
00:43:33.520
Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.