What happens when the Fourth Turning meets 5th Generation Warfare? A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, Jack Posobiec, joins host Jack to discuss the latest in the ongoing government shutdown.
00:00:50.880President Trump says he is cutting off trade talks between the U.S. and Canada.
00:00:54.420Trump is blaming an anti-tariff commercial issued by the Canadian Provincial Government of Ontario.
00:01:00.880The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation says the ad misrepresents a radio address given by the late former president.
00:01:07.640Well, the aftermath of those protests that we saw out at Coast Guard Island in Alameda.
00:01:12.720Now, the Coast Guard says they actually had to open fire on the driver of a U-Haul truck who apparently tried to ram into the Alameda base gate.
00:01:21.320The Capitol senators in both parties put out competing bills to pay federal workers during the government shutdown.
00:03:19.500We saw a situation where Antifa or elements of Antifa and affiliated with Antifa tried to use a U-Haul truck to murder.
00:03:30.800I'm going to say that again, to murder law enforcement agents, security personnel, as well as perhaps Coast Guard members or Coast Guard security.
00:03:39.520It's not exactly clear from these videos, but I want you to see these horrifying videos of a U-Haul truck driven by what seems to be a member of an Antifa protest attempting to destroy and kill, right, destroy a security checkpoint and kill these agents.
00:04:00.320And the shots, and guys, if we can play the audio, play the audio, because you're hearing shot after shot being fired.
00:04:28.980They are attempting to do anything they can to kill our ICE agents, to kill Coast Guard, to kill federal law enforcement, anyone in uniform, basically anyone in a uniform now has a target on their back.
00:04:41.960And certainly anyone who's a public individual.
00:04:44.280And I'll tell you what this is, by the way.
00:05:32.840Oh, I can't believe that some of the blackened, charred bodies of cartel members have washed up on the shores of Trinidad over in Venezuela, off the coast of Venezuela.
00:07:45.620You're looking at a live shot of the White House right now.
00:07:48.520And of course, the Democrats are melting down because Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar just released possibly the most cringe inducing video I've ever seen talking about the East Wing saying, I can't believe they're doing that to the people's house.
00:08:04.960I can't believe that he's just he's just doing whatever he wants.
00:08:18.900Like you could have tried harder to win the election and actually done so and put up, I don't know, a candidate who had some kind of serious connection with the American people and the interests of the American people.
00:08:30.880And then maybe you would have won the election and maybe you would be able then to decide what happens with the White House.
00:08:47.320The White House is getting a big, beautiful ballroom.
00:08:51.260And you guys are just going to have to love it.
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00:11:16.240And by the way, another return to history, and I made this point on Piers Morgan, is that the United States Navy has been interdicting small boats in the Caribbean Sea since the United States Navy has existed.
00:11:27.980This is not a new mission for the United States Navy at all.
00:11:31.300We've been doing it literally for hundreds of years.
00:11:33.900Gun runners, slavers, pirates, mercenaries, rum runners during Prohibition, all the rest of it, blockade runners during the Civil War.
00:11:43.600This is nothing new for the U.S. Navy whatsoever.
00:11:47.440Yet for some reason, the media is completely losing their minds about it.
00:11:53.540And actually, you know, Jack, while we were on the break, I was reminded of this.
00:11:57.500In the 1990s, the Clinton administration launched something called the Air Bridge Denial Program, where the CIA, working with the Peruvian Air Force, was actually shooting down drug cartel aircraft.
00:12:12.240And they shot down dozens of these aircraft.
00:12:15.340The program ended because, unfortunately, they shot down a plane load of American missionaries.
00:12:21.260And the CIA was found to have lied about what they knew and didn't know, and it would have turned into a bigger scandal how 9-11 not happened.
00:12:30.780But again, this type of activity, whether you agree with it or not, is not something new in our hemisphere.
00:12:38.680And I would also argue, again, I saw something else that, before we went on, that some people were complaining that we had more assets, military assets here in our Western Hemisphere than we had in the Middle East right now, specifically ships.
00:12:54.500Well, I'm sorry, what happens in the Western Hemisphere is more important to our physical safety and the conditions of our economic prosperity than what happens in the Red Sea or in the Persian Gulf.
00:13:05.780So, you know, this is, again, a return to where our founders were, where most American presidents were for most of our history, that what matters in our backyard is more important than, say, who controls the Donbass or what's going on in the Red Sea.
00:13:23.780So I think, again, whether you agree or disagree with what's going on right now, that's important to remember.
00:13:29.240No, these are the specific ideals and policies that President Trump campaigned on.
00:13:34.260This is what the strategy of hemispheric defense is all about.
00:13:38.960Now, we did see this news out of the Pentagon this morning regarding the USS Ford carrier strike group is now going to be moving south beyond the Gulf of America down to the Caribbean,
00:13:51.220potentially to increase optionality should the president call for these so-called,
00:13:58.120and we're certainly hearing this over and over, potential land strikes in Venezuela itself.
00:14:15.620Walk us through how you view the situation that really is unfolding in the Caribbean right now.
00:14:20.640Well, first and foremost, you said it, is what the Department of War is doing, is giving the president options.
00:14:27.420By deploying this carrier battle group to the region, they are significantly increasing the capabilities of Southern Command,
00:14:34.540which is the overall combatant command responsible for that region and these operations against the drug cartels.
00:14:41.860This is going to quadruple, I believe, more than quadruple the number of fixed-wing aircraft available to Southcom.
00:14:48.720It's going to introduce more supporting ships and more destroyers, and I believe another cruiser as well, too.
00:14:56.680So you're going to have not just more firepower, but more capability.
00:15:00.300So, you know, for example, you're going to have more capability to conduct a suppression of enemy air defense mission,
00:15:06.660which is, you know, degrading enemy air defenses, and we have to remember that Venezuela actually has a modern Russian-built air defense system.
00:15:15.540You're going to have more intelligence capabilities.
00:15:18.240You're going to have more surveillance capabilities.
00:15:20.920So this is a significant increase in the capabilities of Southcom.
00:15:27.440You know, there's a lot of leaks in the media about, you know, who wants what in the administration and what President Trump is supposedly thinking.
00:15:37.280I just would caution people to be wary of that.
00:15:40.700But what we can't deny is that this gives the president more ability to put military pressure, not just on the cartels, but also on the Maduro regime.
00:15:52.080Now, to your question about the regime change, I don't know if a decision has been made to go all the way that direction.
00:16:00.960But regardless of what you think about the cartel mission, we should definitely be wary of that possibility.
00:16:10.580So, I mean, you're talking about the USS Ford, and that's the entire strike group.
00:16:14.300So they're going to have at least four or five destroyers that will head down with it to provide that air defense screen for the destroyer or for the carrier itself, I should say.
00:16:24.380Probably, you know, usually there's a couple of subs that are in tow whenever, you know, whenever those operations go out.
00:16:29.740And by the way, so the land strikes, and this is something that's key, by the way, the land strikes wouldn't necessarily be conducted from the Ford itself.
00:16:38.340We've got plenty of bombers that could do that, but the Ford would actually be there for the, you know, the basic, you know, the secondary or even, you know, early, you know, early preparation of the operational environment should those strikes occur.
00:16:54.880And it also brings combat search and rescue capabilities.
00:16:58.120If, God forbid, a manned aircraft is shot down.
00:17:00.980But most of the strikes have been done by a drone up to this point, right, for the most part, as far as we know?
00:17:09.440As far as we know, it has been unmanned aerial systems, drones, probably Reaper drones, but the Department of War hasn't disclosed every system they've used in these strikes.
00:17:20.460But it would appear that it is mostly unmanned systems they've been using so far.
00:17:34.400They've got, you know, they've got the Reapers down there.
00:17:37.200And simply put, this is exactly what they were designed to do.
00:17:41.280You know, people are used, of course, to seeing them in the Middle East going after trucks or going after convoys or ISIS or something like that.
00:17:49.820And, of course, they were fantastic at doing so.
00:17:53.100And going after a fast boat in the Caribbean really isn't much difference at all.
00:18:23.700So you're not risking a pilot and crew in those operations.
00:18:26.900Well, and there's even we've even seen speaking of which of the loiter time, that's exactly what we're starting to see out of Ukraine, Russia, even Iran.
00:18:36.360And they're making loiter munitions, basically, that are able to hang in the sky and wait for a specific target package to come by.
00:18:45.920They're AI controlled or, in some cases, remote controlled.
00:18:50.280I mean, these, the skies are getting very complicated, very, very complicated.
00:18:56.580Dan Caldwell, we're up on a quick break here.
00:19:42.100And we're walking through this new optionality that the USS Ford Carrier Strike Group gives to the president
00:19:49.100when dealing with these terrorist organizations down south that the interdiction operation that we're seeing out in really trendy Aragua and so many others of the cartels that are coming up out of Venezuela.
00:20:01.060Now, that being said, there have been some questions and I think legitimate concerns as well.
00:20:06.600That if land strikes do occur, does the Maduro regime view that as an attack on them?
00:20:15.920Because we know that there have definitely been some demonstrated overlap and demonstrated ties between certain members of the Maduro regime and Trendyragua.
00:20:25.220So, that being said, if these land strikes do occur, what are some of the ways that Maduro could respond to this?
00:20:33.740Well, this is probably the most important question.
00:20:37.160And, you know, going back to what you were discussing in the previous segment, to conduct those land strikes,
00:20:43.400I think that you are going to have to conduct some type of suppression of enemy air defense mission.
00:20:49.580Because, again, Venezuela does have a modern Russian-built air defense system.
00:20:54.900And that's, I think, one of the reasons the Ford is being moved in.
00:20:58.820Not because anybody's made a firm decision, but, again, to give the president options.
00:21:03.800And I think considering the whole ideology behind the Maduro regime, which it is a Marxist regime,
00:21:10.320but it's also rooted in this Bolivarian nationalism, this whole idea that they threw off imperialism from the Europeans,
00:21:19.120and now the threat from imperialism is from the Yankees.
00:21:22.820But I think that there is always a risk that Maduro or his cartel allies would have to retaliate in some way.
00:21:30.360That could be retaliation against military assets the United States has in the Caribbean.
00:21:38.440Or it could, God forbid, include retaliation against our homeland.
00:22:06.100And by the way, so that's, I mean, you're talking about blowback not just from, so the merger regime, again, serious military, Russian-backed, Chinese-backed, serious air defense.
00:22:17.080And so, you know, good chance that, you know, we're not going to.
00:22:20.260Now, and by the way, this is why when we flew those B-2 bombers over when the president ordered that Operation Midnight Hammer over Iran, that's why he did it after Israel and the Israeli Air Force had already conducted those operations to destroy the air defense.
00:22:37.620They were so degraded that it provided the president with an opportunity to do so.
00:22:42.100We don't have that situation here, so it would have to be American aircraft of some sort flying that operation.
00:22:51.380And also remember during Operation Midnight Hammer is that there was over 100 aircraft, including fourth and fifth gen fighters going into Iran, a lot of supporting aircraft in the Persian Gulf, you know, AWACS aircraft, intelligence aircraft, probably electronic warfare aircraft, in support of those 14 B-2 bombers going in.
00:23:11.000And so while the Venezuelan air defense network, it probably isn't overall more robust as the Iranians, to your point, it has not been degraded.
00:23:21.540So to do that would require a major operation in and of itself before you would have any type of significant land campaign.
00:23:29.320And I think that's exactly right, and I think people have to understand that this isn't, you know, it's not video game logic, right?
00:23:39.360You can't just, oh, I'm going to, or call in a bombing.
00:23:56.700Is this really what the American people are going to want?
00:23:59.720And by the way, when you mentioned blowback, I wanted to step on that for a second because the cartels themselves, not just the Venezuelan Trendyragua, but also the cartels out of El Salvador, MS-13, the cartels out of Mexico, Jalisco New Cartel, and others.
00:24:20.420I was saying earlier in the opening that some of the worst videos I've ever seen online are the cartel videos, the violence, the just insane levels of depravity.
00:25:01.380Again, the Department of War is playing a key part in that.
00:25:03.480I think that's appropriate use of the Department of War.
00:25:05.680They are definitely more aware and awake to this threat than the previous administration was, for sure.
00:25:14.780But, again, these are organizations that are embedded and have tentacles throughout our country, not just in the southern states, not just in Arizona where I grew up, but across the country.
00:25:24.880And they are a much bigger threat than the remnants of ISIS and al-Qaeda and have more capability than those threats.
00:25:36.100Unfortunately, for a long time, for over 20 years, we devoted far more resources to, really, after 2011, after we killed bin Laden and after President Trump destroyed the ISIS caliphate, we devoted, even then, far more resources to those threats than the ones in our backyard.
00:25:57.420And, Jack, I just got to say, that makes this situation much more complicated.
00:26:03.060It is not as black and white to say, okay, you know, this is us getting into yet another stupid war in the Middle East.
00:26:17.040It's not as like, okay, this is another stupid war.
00:26:20.700There are things we have to do here to keep ourselves safe.
00:26:24.160But at the same time, we have to acknowledge that there are real risks because escalation, and we could do something that, in the long term, actually makes certain things worse in our own hemisphere.
00:26:50.200You can see me talking about stuff like this and maybe posting something about how I struggle, whether or not Kill Em All is the best album or Ride the Lightning.
00:26:57.480That's a continued debate I have within myself.
00:26:58.560I mean, it is Ride the Lightning, but I was kind of going for an effect there.
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00:29:55.640And it's amazing to be joining your great show.
00:29:59.600And I hope that anything I can provide in the new show will be a great addition to all of the information that you do so well covering every day here.
00:30:10.380And I'm more than happy to support, Grace.
00:30:12.680I wanted to, you know, people know you.
00:30:15.320They've seen you doing, you know, all sorts of media.
00:30:18.260You've been blowing up on social media.
00:30:20.180I've seen you've got millions of views all across these reels that you do.
00:30:24.700But I don't know that everybody knows the background that you and I met many moons ago through Turning Point USA and that you were, in fact, a Turning Point USA alumni.
00:30:37.420Tell us a little bit about that story and how it really was, you know, Charlie and his work that got you started.
00:30:45.040Yeah, this truly is just another example of Charlie's impact.
00:30:48.900First of all, that I would even be talking to all of you today, but just that Jack's been able to have an impact on my life as well.
00:30:55.080I started with Turning Point as a high school student and I basically met Charlie Kirk, was inspired to decide to fully commit to standing for Christian conservative values, which at the time as a high schooler wasn't the easiest thing to do.
00:31:10.360It wasn't a popular thing, that's for sure.
00:31:12.960But I decided, you know what, this is worth it.
00:31:15.460The truth is on my side and I want my generation to actually hear these ideas, which they weren't hearing.
00:31:21.400That's something that I had noticed. So I started a chapter, got involved in Turning Point and the rest is history.
00:31:27.280But because of that and all of the things that have happened years since with Turning Point, with people like Charlie believing in me, people like Jack believing in me, that's why my work now is an outgrowth of Turning Point and that impact.
00:31:43.500And by the way, you know, you came out to the memorial.
00:31:46.400You were there in Arizona. You did a lot of coverage of that.
00:31:49.600You did a lot of appearances and you have been.
00:31:52.640I just wanted to say thank you for, you know, having the really just the bravery to be able to take that spark that Charlie, I think, and motivation and inspiration that Charlie gave to so many of us and to be able to use that to let that shine through.
00:32:10.320And so much of the media and so much of the coverage that you did, because I know it couldn't have been easy.
00:32:14.260Yeah, well, it's been an honor and an absolute privilege, one that I'm so grateful to God for just to have the opportunity to be able to honor someone who has had such an impact on our lives, but also on the country and the course of history.
00:32:30.460Of course, the impact he's had through sharing his faith, being so dedicated to truth and really being dedicated to the why of it all and being dedicated to explaining the why to people who weren't hearing Christian conservative ideas is what has had such an impact.
00:32:48.240That's gotten our country to this point in a lot of ways has gotten the conservative movement to this point in a lot of ways.
00:32:54.760And I think every day it's an honor for us all to just wake up and do our very best to carry on his legacy the best we can and to just keep spreading the truth because it matters.
00:33:05.580It matters so much. And, you know, I've seen so many people try to kind of like spin Charlie's legacy and try to put him in a different, you know, box or this and that.
00:33:18.780But people don't realize that Charlie was really just about being there for the kids, being there on campus.
00:33:24.800You're obviously living proof of that, that he was he was also trying to identify talent, that he would go out and he would say, you know, I've got to identify who are the some of the best student leaders.
00:33:36.880And then some of them would get jobs with Turning Point. Some of them would go on to become field organizers with Turning Point Action.
00:33:43.520Others would step up in different ways, student government, student leadership.
00:33:47.580There's so many different options. But of course, it was sort of this this funnel.
00:33:51.060And then obviously, media route was another one that clearly you have excelled at.
00:33:56.400And that was so much of what his vision was. It wasn't just the idea of, you know, promoting.
00:34:01.660And it was a simple message, right? Very simple message. God, family, country.
00:34:05.020That's pretty much like that's literally it right there. God, family, country.
00:34:07.940But you could you could boil it all down to those three.
00:34:10.680But but it was his organizational abilities and his never ending drive to just go campus by campus to find the best talent in America.
00:34:21.040And give it give it an opportunity to shine. And that's what was so different about Charlie.
00:34:26.200And I think so many of these other youth directed organizations that he really did make it about the people.
00:34:33.260Yeah. And what it really was, too, to just lean in on that is that he gave people courage.
00:34:39.380He gave people the courage to speak out, to dive deeper into what they thought and become committed to sharing that with other people.
00:34:47.540That's something that students on college campuses and high school campuses across the country have trouble with, because a lot of the times they're feeling alone.
00:34:56.020They're feeling like all of their teachers or peers are more on the left and that they're going to get bullied or ostracized for being conservative.
00:35:03.520And I think that something that Charlie's done is he's changed that.
00:35:06.740I would say that that's not the reality anymore. And it's very clear to all young conservatives out there that you are not alone.
00:35:13.380There are so many linking arms with you across the country and more people are bold, are bold and excited and courageous enough to be sharing their values now than they ever were.
00:35:25.320I think even when I was in high school and Charlie is a huge part of that.
00:35:32.360You know, I and it's it's funny because I remember like meeting you.
00:35:35.600It was it was like ALX, you know, some of the great school.
00:35:40.900And Anna Polina Luna was, you know, just she was, quote unquote, just an influencer.
00:35:47.640And Candace, obviously, you know, Graham Allen, you know, you go all the way back and, you know, it's it's you look at where everybody is now and the role they've taken on.
00:35:58.460And, you know, I love the fact you're calling it American restoration because it's it's the opposite of revolution.
00:36:06.420That's what the left wants. You're talking about restoring that which made America great in the first place.
00:36:11.860Yeah, absolutely. And something that the left is so hyper focused on is this transformation.
00:36:18.140Of course, that's something Obama used to talk about a lot, but they want to transform us away from the values that founded us and have allowed our country to excel all of these years to the point where we're about to hit 250 great years.
00:36:33.140And the fact that so many on the left are so ready and willing to stand against those things, to stand against the values that have founded our country is a huge problem.
00:36:42.960And that's why with the company that I'm with restoration of America and now this show, which is a play on that restoring America, we're focused on bringing back those values, putting shining a light on them, shining a light on the things that have made our country successful.
00:36:59.040So great. But beyond that, shining a light on truth, because, of course, that's what it is when it comes down to it.
00:37:04.820I mean, the values that founded our country are something that, unfortunately, people disagree on today.
00:37:11.900America is in the midst of a very serious identity crisis for many reasons.
00:37:16.480But one of these key reasons is that the left and the right today fundamentally disagree on their vision for the country.
00:37:23.560And a lot of that comes down to the very basics, the foundations and the values.
00:37:28.960So we think that if we can talk more about those, talk about the why more, that hopefully we'll be able to kind of reignite those conversations and get people thinking more about these whys.
00:37:41.620Because another thing is, with the pace of current events, it's so easy to just be trying to keep your head above water and keeping up with the latest insane things that are happening.
00:37:51.140So the goal of the show is to add more layers to that.
00:37:55.120Heartbreak coming up. We'll be right back.
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00:38:03.580Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book.
00:38:13.320Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.
00:38:15.640And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:38:19.600And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
00:41:02.760So, so that you can be adding on your knowledge when you're looking at current events, everything,
00:41:08.140even from history in the past that will be brought up is going to be incredibly relevant.
00:41:12.360I've found that that's what people are the most interested in because it really brings to life all of the issues that we're facing today.
00:41:19.040Well, the biggest one for me, and, and obviously we, you know, we started talking about Charlie,
00:41:25.640but the biggest thing that I've been, you know, raising the alarm on, and obviously I've talked about it for years,
00:41:30.900but, you know, predominantly in the last couple of weeks is the rise of leftist political violence.
00:41:35.320And it's something where I just feel like it still to this point.
00:41:41.080And that's why we have to use social media.
00:41:42.680That's why we have to bring this information directly to people videos again, right?
00:41:47.260If you just look at the U-Haul video, that's going viral this morning of this U-Haul out in Oakland, California, that, you know,
00:41:54.240if you clip that video, so what Antifa is doing, they're going, they're running all over Tik TOK right now.
00:41:58.540And they're clipping the video to make it look like these officers, these, this federal law enforcement is just randomly opening fire on a U-Haul truck.
00:42:07.520But if you show the full video, what does it show?
00:42:10.900It says the U-Haul shows the U-Haul truck and the Antifa driver are flooring it in reverse so that the, you know, the, the back area of the U-Haul is directed at these officers.
00:42:22.980I mean, not obviously it could have killed them by running them over.
00:42:26.620And who knows, there could have been an ID in there.
00:42:30.140And unfortunately, I feel like this is getting worse.
00:42:32.400Grace, do you feel like when you go out and you, you know, you put the stuff on social media, are people starting to become more receptive?
00:42:42.320Of course, what you're saying though, is something I've been thinking a lot about that.
00:42:46.280Is there hope to even have conversations like this and, you know, to talk about the whys?
00:42:50.820If one side is so okay with political violence all of a sudden, obviously there are people on both sides who, who aren't, but there's a huge fringe of people and it's not a small amount anymore.
00:43:04.240We saw that after Charlie passed away and so many people were celebrating his death.
00:43:08.560There's a lot of people who have normalized and become okay with complete dehumanization and political violence.
00:43:15.180And that's a serious, serious problem and something that's hard to reason with and that we need to call out at every single chance we get.
00:43:22.600And it's been insane to watch the escalations of Antifa throughout the past few years, but even just throughout the past few months.
00:43:31.860It feels like it gets worse every day almost, even watching what's happening with ICE agents who are just doing their jobs.
00:43:37.320And then also watching Democrat leadership say that it's all okay and be okay with it, right?
00:43:44.480I mean, the fact that Democrat leadership has been justifying and defending behavior like that, encouraging behavior like that.
00:43:50.900And I think that that's why it's so important to be calling this out, covering it, because we didn't always, you know, years ago, used to be in a place where so many people were okay with normalizing political violence and such extreme reactions to people that you don't agree with politically.
00:44:43.480I was just going to say, when you're talking to, you know, other people, when you're trying to recruit for Turning Point, when you're going to high schools, when you're going to college campuses, you know, do people, you know, are they open to hearing perhaps a different point of view than that which they're provided by the mainstream media?
00:45:00.420I think that they definitely are, and part of the reason that I would say that is because people have noticed this escalation in being okay with political violence, for example.
00:45:11.420And there are a lot of decent, reasonable people who see that and say, oh, wait, I don't want to be on that side.
00:45:18.340So, I think the radicalization of the left has actually helped people that maybe are more in the middle but lean more towards the left understand the direction that the left is going and be more open to considering other ideas.
00:45:33.280So, there's definitely a chance for that.
00:45:35.720And something that we've seen through what Charlie Kirk did is the willingness of people to come and at least listen and have conversations.
00:45:43.100Now, of course, there are people who show up to events like that and won't change their minds, have already decided that.
00:45:49.940And that's definitely a serious problem in our country.
00:45:52.500People who are committed to their ideas won't change their minds no matter what, always wrong but never are in doubt.
00:45:58.600And that's something that I think we just have to not accept and fight against and just keep understanding that our ideas are right, better, and on the side of truth.
00:46:07.420And that if we can keep bringing those ideas to more people, we do have a chance to change hearts and minds.
00:46:14.220And I've experienced that in my own life, in my own work, people who were on the left and who have decided to consider conservative values because they've finally gotten a chance to hear them.
00:46:25.640So, I think we've got to hold the line, keep spreading the truth because there is a chance.
00:46:30.240And that's something, obviously, that Charlie believed with what he did every day and what we believe by nature of talking about conservative values and current events every single day, that people will be able to hear our ideas and consider them.
00:46:44.620And hopefully that's something that people start opening up more to.
00:46:49.200And I think that this violence is actually opening more people's eyes.