Glenn Beck and Jack Posobiec discuss the tragedy of 9/11 and how God uses it to reveal himself to us in a new and different way. Jack is joined by Glenn Beck in the Charlie Kirk studio in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:36.620You say all those things that I think, all I've been thinking of for the last week is, you know, how inadequate I am.
00:01:47.200And we all are when you look at what Charlie has built and done and most importantly, how he lived his life.
00:01:55.960It is the outpouring is just a testament to him as a human being and as a son of God.
00:02:05.280Glenn, you know, you and I were just sort of chatting in the break here that when something like this happens, when a horrific evil like this happens, the first question, of course, Christians, non-Christians, believers, non-believers, everyone asks why.
00:02:21.700And I think if you are a believer, it's you have an answer already because and this is what I've been sort of toying with, playing with in my mind is that when we see these, it's a revival.
00:03:04.700But I'm a recovering alcoholic and I, I relate this to a few summers ago, I was building a house and, and I have absolutely no skill at all.
00:03:18.800I am, I am, I am the first to be eaten if society goes down because I have no skills.
00:04:27.060And then I found the Lord and I found redemption and I got into the waters of baptism.
00:04:32.920And when I actually worked that, when I actually understood the redemptive power of Jesus Christ, all of a sudden my whole life changed.
00:04:44.500And the things that I had thought were so bad that I had done, the Lord took and used all of those things to help me connect to people that I couldn't have connected to before.
00:04:58.300Um, he, he, it put me in places that only the Lord could make it right.
00:05:04.160And there's the Lord being a carpenter is so good because he'll come in and we've cut all this wood and it's all been wrong.
00:05:13.160And yet he'll take that and make something so much better than any of us could imagine.
00:05:19.020Um, and there's not a scrap, there's no sawdust left.
00:05:26.480So he comes in and he sees what's happened, what we've done with Charlie, because this is going to continue to happen unless we learn our lesson.
00:05:36.620And this will continue to happen unless we learn our lesson.
00:05:39.980Um, so please wake up now, but, um, he sees this mess that we've made and there's enough of us that are prepared to go, Lord, make it stop.
00:06:43.360Inherently that when a great evil has been inflicted upon the land, inflicted upon the people, that the way to respond, the first thing you do is you gather together.
00:08:50.380That's right, because, you know, I'm reminded of the exorcists.
00:08:55.160They say that when you have someone who has those, you have so many imperfections, that's where the evil plays on.
00:09:02.020The evil uses that against you, and they'll pick at it, and they'll pick at it, and you know because you're self-conscious of it, because we all know, right?
00:09:13.920So our conscience is telling us that we have done this evil, we have done this wrong, and that is why it's considered a spiritual purification.
00:09:23.660Charlie was the purest of all of us, and he was the only one who could go up against such evil.
00:09:31.400I feel bad for the people who don't have this.
00:11:56.460You, you fools, uh, you know, go, go, go to church, but, but leave it in there, leave it behind the closed doors.
00:12:04.360And I want to say, Charlie, you and you as well, you know, some of the first, and, and, and certainly on campus, Charlie was the first one to say, no, I'm, I'm going to bring the Lord back to campus.
00:12:13.440I'm going to do, and if you look, our great universities were originally founded as religious universities.
00:14:42.940And, and, and we know this, the, and, and the story, the story behind the story, it reminds me of what you just said with, with Roger Ailes, because, and we all know this incredible scene, uh, where Linus at a public school is, and there, you know, what's the meaning of Christmas?
00:14:56.420And he just, he's got the blanket, you know, he's still here, the light spotlight, I hear the lights shutting down.
00:15:01.600He just nails it, goes straight to the gospel of Luke and just nails it.
00:15:05.340That's the meaning of Christmas, Charlie Brown.
00:15:07.420And he just testifies to the Lord in a public space where no one is talking about it.
00:15:12.160And, and, and they say that there was also some discussion behind the scenes.
00:15:17.380And this was, I think the 1960s, uh, with, with Charles Schultz and, and I'm saying, Hey, we're not sure if we, network's not sure if we want to go there.
00:15:25.940You know, it's, it's a little churchy, you know, we don't know if we're going to put this in.
00:16:01.160The country is not a little churchy now.
00:16:03.520I mean, maybe it's a very little churchy right now because the churches have dropped the ball.
00:16:08.680The churches are not, the church has become a building.
00:16:12.580Charlie showed us that the church is actually people on the streets, reaching out to each other, being kind to one another, doing the right thing, saying the tough stuff, but not being afraid of saying the tough stuff and saying it with love.
00:16:26.240That's what church is, not a building, not a building you go to.
00:16:30.840You know, it's, it's, we've lost so much in the sixties.
00:16:36.140That's, that's, you know, and I'd love to know you, you mentioned how many times did you say God on air?
00:16:41.060I'd also love, I'd love to put that up against how many complaints, how many complaints did, did Fox receive?
00:16:47.300How many complaints has, I think it's CBS, how has CBS received because of Linus's speech over the years?
00:18:37.820I mean, it does not replace your father, but at least you can hold on to something he, he, you know, soldiers, some of them that I know after we left Afghanistan, the way we did, they were like, what was all of this for?
00:19:01.720His children will never, ever say that.
00:19:04.520Um, and that's, that's all because of the way we react and it could have gone, it could have gone another way, could have gone another way where we reacted horribly, but Charlie did.
00:19:18.460And, and you did, everybody here has planted the seeds of principles for so long that everyone fell back on their principles, not on their politics, not on their anger, not anything, but on their principles.
00:20:09.260He's, you know, conservatives deserve this because you elected Donald Trump.
00:20:14.100And, and I, and I, and I get that feeling welling up where I just, you know, you want to, you know, as a, as a guy, as a, as a human, as a human, you want to just reach through the screen.
00:20:26.440And, and then I hear Charlie, I said, Jack, Jack, and that was it.
00:21:03.240I'm not here to police my brother and sister.
00:21:05.380I'm here to help my brother and sister.
00:21:06.980I'm here to make sure that when I go home and my brother or sister was out and I saw them and they were doing something and I get home and my dad looks at me and goes, you left your sister there.
00:22:17.520All right, guys, we are back human events daily live from the Charlie Kirk studio here, Phoenix, Arizona.
00:22:30.040Um, we do know that, uh, I know there was some news earlier today about, um, about turning points, uh, yet again, not just the organization, but actually the physical building.
00:22:45.700Um, that was the first call that I got this morning that the, you know, the facility was going to be on lockdown and it was package was checked out.
00:22:55.420Phoenix PD got here incredibly quickly and they cleared the entire scene.
00:23:01.220So I just like to say a huge shout out to Phoenix PD and all of the local security, everyone who's here, everyone who's helping out with the situation for everything they're doing.
00:23:13.940Um, people are going above and beyond to make sure that we can be here and do this safely every single day, even in the midst of having faced Charlie's murder, but also in a place where we're able to continue the mission.
00:23:31.140Because continuing the mission is absolutely what Charlie would have wanted and having Erica and her strength and her direction and her guidance in a time like this is phenomenal.
00:23:50.840And that's the only way you can really describe such a thing.
00:23:55.100And it was incredible seeing Glenn Beck here and, uh, having him come in, uh, gifting the Rush Limbaugh EIB golden microphone to Charlie posthumously and, and handing that down.
00:24:14.660Maybe, maybe folks outside of, uh, you know, whatever you call this stuff, independent media, conservative media, you know, I say, well, what's that all about?
00:24:47.760Uh, you know, I would say college 2004 was really when I first got in.
00:24:51.900And, and so it was Rush and, and Glenn that I listened to every single day and, you know, then started getting into more as, you know, sort of the online space came up, social media.
00:25:03.340And we, you know, we're able to give our views and, and also have the ability to get active and go get organized through social media that became a new outlet.
00:25:14.300But we were all always building on the things that Rush Limbaugh started that Glenn Beck and so many others followed on in.
00:25:25.540And it means a lot because losing Rush and then we had lost Andrew Breitbart 2012 and now, now Charlie.
00:25:38.800And, uh, I had the opportunity to meet Andrew Breitbart, uh, one time very briefly signed a book for me, righteous indignation, had the opportunity to see Rush once never met Rush, uh, directly, but I had the opportunity to see him once at his, what we would later find out would be his final ever public speech, which fittingly enough was at a turning point event.
00:26:03.160I think it was 2019 in, um, and, uh, in Florida and my wife and at the time, my one-year-old son was sitting there in a stroller and we've got a, we've got a great video of that up.
00:26:17.180And when we look at what this means and when we're trying to make sense of the senseless and we try to understand what all of it's coming from.
00:26:33.160And I believe there's a reason and Tanya Tay texted me last night.
00:26:40.020She flew back to, to be with our boys.
00:26:42.720Uh, obviously our intention is to be there on Sunday at this incredible memorial that's going to happen.
00:26:47.840And the team has been working around the clock, including Erica working around the clock, being so such a visionary, just such a visionary in terms of the ideas, in terms of the tributes, in terms of the moralization of a great man and a good man and my friend.
00:27:08.920And it's, it's, it's just been amazing to have a front row seat to all of that and to see that his legacy will continue and that his mission will continue.
00:27:23.120I'd also like to thank, uh, Catholics for Catholics, John Yep, who showed up yesterday and put together just on, on a moment's notice was able to get over 2,500 Catholics right out here.
00:27:39.400Just steps away from where I'm sitting at Charlie's vigil last night and we held a rosary for Charlie.
00:27:48.140And it was so fitting because yesterday was Tuesday and Catholics know Tuesday is the Sorrowful Mysteries.
00:27:59.040And we prayed the Sorrowful Mysteries for Charlie and the Sorrowful Mysteries of Christ, our King, our Lord and Savior.
00:28:05.760And we sang hymns and we, we sang patriotic songs for Charlie.
00:43:11.180You know, it was a roller coaster of emotion, extreme emotions.
00:43:15.780What people don't realize is minutes prior, minutes prior to him being shot, it was arguably the loudest entrance I've ever witnessed for Charlie Kirk at an outdoor event.
00:43:29.960We were at the bottom of a bowl with 5,000 students around us, thrilled, ecstatic, yelling, screaming.
00:43:40.380Charlie asked for Thunderstruck to come on, and there was an AV technicality, and Thunderstruck did not come on.
00:43:45.380But you did not need the entrance music for it to be, because it was so loud, no one would even have been able to hear the music.
00:45:40.020That man has, that way, his humor comes through in all of this.
00:45:44.700And, but I think the best part of this is, and I hate to say this, but it's the only part that gives us all hope.
00:45:52.860It's seeing how the world has responded.
00:45:54.620And as, and I think what you mentioned is so important.
00:45:59.300We must never, never forget the man and the community that he came from that continues to celebrate the horrific death of an innocent man in a very public manner.
00:46:14.100And they lie, they, they, they will lie because the communist hates most of all being exposed and being identified as someone who is actually anti-humanity, who is anti-life itself.
00:46:27.580Who is not just anti-speech, but he is in war with our way of life, in war with our country, in war with our society and at war to the point where they view the murder of someone, an innocent, good man in cold blood.
00:46:44.320And there, there was, there was someone who said, well, you conservatives cheered when, uh, when Osama bin Laden died.
00:46:55.300And so, okay, so you're admitting, that's not comparable, but, but, but what it is, is it's clarity because they're clarifying that's who they are.
00:47:06.340That's who that's projection and clarity because they're identifying.
00:47:09.440We are the ones who have declared war and CNN asked me this the other day.
00:49:17.180I think with perfect clarity, looking down in that scenario, seeing us all mourn his death.
00:49:22.880And, and looking down from above and also just that mischievous smile that we, he always found a way to smile.
00:49:33.540And the hardest found a way he had that little, he had a little twist on something or a little take on something.
00:49:38.960It was that mischievous smile that kept us in the darkest of times, the hardest of times say, all right, we only have a minute left.
00:49:45.880Because Andrew, are we going to be able to handle his turning point going to be able to handle all the signups that, I mean, I know you're dealing with that as well as dealing with the grief.