Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 02, 2025


The Christian Revival in the West and the Shocking Jobs Report in America


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40 minutes

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167.7699

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6,877

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498

Misogynist Sentences

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23


Summary

Why did Mike Walz get let go from the National Security Council? Is it a firing, or is it a Senate confirmed appointment? President Trump announces the biggest illegal immigration roundup in Florida s history, and the economy continues to crush Wall Street expectations.


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00:00:49.220 Christ is king.
00:00:50.380 Why was Mike Walz let go?
00:00:52.220 So he wasn't let go.
00:00:53.300 He is being made ambassador to the United Nations, which of course is a Senate-confirmed position.
00:00:57.460 I think he can make a good argument that it's a promotion.
00:01:00.000 But we brought Mike on to do some serious reforms of the National Security Council.
00:01:04.780 He has done that.
00:01:06.100 I like Mike.
00:01:07.160 I think he's a great guy.
00:01:08.160 He's got the trust of both me and the president.
00:01:10.340 But we also thought that he'd make a better UN ambassador as we get beyond this stage of
00:01:15.900 the reforms that we've made to the National Security Council.
00:01:18.080 Look, I think the media wants to frame this as a firing.
00:01:21.580 Donald Trump has fired a lot of people.
00:01:22.920 He doesn't give them Senate-confirmed appointments afterwards.
00:01:26.000 President Trump is ready to unveil his big, beautiful budget tomorrow.
00:01:30.660 The White House has given GOP leaders a list of wants after the president met with a group
00:01:36.600 of lawmakers today.
00:01:37.780 Federal agents announced the biggest illegal immigration roundup in Florida's history.
00:01:42.360 More than 1,100 people were arrested last week.
00:01:45.060 And Secretary Pete Headchef directing the Secretary of the Army to cut wasteful spending.
00:01:49.240 The Army is planning a sweeping transformation that will merge or close headquarters, dump
00:01:53.800 outdated vehicles and aircraft, slash as many as 1,000 headquarters staff in the Pentagon,
00:01:58.840 and shift personnel to units in the field.
00:02:01.660 Sheehan and Timu, these are two brands that made a name for themselves by being able to ship
00:02:07.040 directly Chinese goods to U.S. households.
00:02:10.600 Dirt, dirt cheap.
00:02:11.840 Really cheap.
00:02:12.760 And so now you're seeing Sheehan raising prices and Timu putting the import tax right into your
00:02:18.960 cart.
00:02:19.760 This administration closed a loophole that allowed these low-dollar goods to be shipped directly
00:02:26.260 to U.S. households.
00:02:28.500 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington,
00:02:32.860 D.C.
00:02:33.240 Today is May 2, 2025.
00:02:35.700 Anno, Domini.
00:02:36.880 The jobs report that came out today absolutely smashed expectations from Wall Street, especially
00:02:46.620 the same Wall Street that I was told, oh my gosh, President Trump is going to destroy everything.
00:02:52.960 The tariffs will never work.
00:02:54.720 The tariffs, the tariffs, they are losing their minds.
00:02:57.280 Do you hear all the tariffs or the complication, the calculation of the tariffs wasn't good.
00:03:02.220 It wasn't good.
00:03:02.960 It wasn't set up right.
00:03:03.840 Now, look at the jobs report.
00:03:07.400 Came in tens of thousands, I think 40,000 or 50,000 more jobs than were expected by Wall
00:03:15.360 Street.
00:03:15.980 We are only on the cusp.
00:03:18.420 This is the very beginning of the Trump job boom in America.
00:03:24.480 Yeah, only 100 days is all it took for Trump's job boom to get launched.
00:03:32.540 An analyst, they're scratching their heads.
00:03:34.580 They're saying, well, I don't know what could happen.
00:03:37.380 Why could it be that the tariffs would do that?
00:03:41.540 I don't know.
00:03:43.100 Well, I'm not sure because maybe you could actually let the man cook.
00:03:48.160 Just let the man cook.
00:03:50.100 Also, by the way, not only did he stun Wall Street with these numbers, but what have we
00:03:54.900 seen?
00:03:55.620 Well, and thanks to Zero Hedge, they've got a chart up.
00:03:58.000 Let's look at jobs that actually went to Americans rather than foreign-born workers.
00:04:05.340 American-born workers up now up a million foreign-born workers down 410,000.
00:04:15.500 Well, folks, that's what I voted for.
00:04:19.140 So I'm going to take my I got what I voted for award and pin it right up to my wall next
00:04:25.200 to the other several hundred of them.
00:04:28.000 Look, there's a lot of people who didn't get this, and I'm just going to say maybe you
00:04:33.660 need to stop yapping and start listening.
00:04:36.920 By the way, we're also tracking these reports.
00:04:39.060 U.S. saying that they're now pulling out potentially of peace talks with Russia and Ukraine.
00:04:45.820 However, I think that this might be another negotiation tactic.
00:04:50.460 We'll see what actually takes place.
00:04:53.960 This, of course, becomes from Russia coming out and slamming the mineral deal that the
00:04:59.220 U.S. and Ukraine signed a couple of days ago.
00:05:02.240 We're going to keep an eye on that.
00:05:03.600 And, of course, we're in direct communication with members of the administration every day
00:05:08.400 to figure out exactly what's going on so we can get the story to you, the American people.
00:05:14.060 That's what you hear here every day on Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec.
00:05:18.000 We'll be right back.
00:05:25.240 Everyone to understand what America First truly means.
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00:05:33.600 All right, Jack Posobiec here.
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00:07:07.980 We're very excited here on Human Events Daily today.
00:07:12.000 We have a commissioner of the FCC actually joining us here on the program.
00:07:17.600 So I've got to be extra careful that I stay within FCC guidelines today because we've got to be careful, folks.
00:07:24.720 We've got to be careful.
00:07:25.720 The hall monitor is here, and they're going to be checking every single word that we say.
00:07:30.840 Hey, folks, it's Nate Symington.
00:07:33.380 He's a commissioner of the FCC.
00:07:34.580 Welcome to the program.
00:07:36.480 Delighted to be here.
00:07:37.580 I think we've got a lot of cool things to talk about today.
00:07:40.680 Well, Commissioner, I'd love if I could, and I know it's not exactly your lane,
00:07:44.480 but I'd love to get your comment on this jobs report that's just come out
00:07:48.580 because I think it really is stunning.
00:07:51.140 A lot of people out there who said, how can jobs be up this much,
00:07:55.220 given all of what we were told was a tumultuous stock market
00:07:59.240 and a tumultuous economy over the last couple of weeks?
00:08:03.000 Right.
00:08:03.560 Well, there's a famous saying that originated with Warren Buffett
00:08:09.400 that in the short term, the stock market is a voting machine,
00:08:13.380 and in the long term, it's a weighing machine.
00:08:15.560 So when you see a lot of volatility in the stock market,
00:08:18.200 it's a sign that people aren't necessarily sure which way to jump.
00:08:21.080 And it's worth remembering that lots of people on Wall Street make a lot of money
00:08:25.220 not on betting on the long-term valuations of the company,
00:08:28.580 but instead betting on, for whatever company we're talking about,
00:08:32.320 betting on a particular trading direction.
00:08:35.540 So it's a little bit like if you're handicapping a sports spread
00:08:39.700 or something like that.
00:08:40.880 It's not necessarily important to win or lose.
00:08:43.500 It's important to have an advantage over the spread to be the smart money
00:08:47.360 and to buy and sell your positions on that basis.
00:08:49.280 So what we could look at is a lot of volatility
00:08:52.880 causing people to shake money out of the system
00:08:55.840 and get on the sidelines because they're just not sure
00:08:58.160 how the strategies they've used for the last five years
00:09:00.720 are going to succeed on a forward-looking basis.
00:09:02.700 All of a sudden, maybe long-term valuation
00:09:04.720 has become a bigger player than it had prior.
00:09:07.240 So I'm not a finance professional,
00:09:10.100 but that's my amateurish read from the sides,
00:09:12.440 that at this point, the real economic numbers
00:09:14.700 are going to be much, much more interesting
00:09:16.460 than watching the stock ticker.
00:09:19.280 Well, I think this is exactly right.
00:09:21.160 And I was kind of making a joke the other day
00:09:23.320 when there are some people I said,
00:09:25.400 tell me how I know you bought NVIDIA High
00:09:28.740 without you telling me you bought NVIDIA High.
00:09:31.320 I get it, all right?
00:09:32.560 There are certain people that when certain policies
00:09:35.120 are announced, they get very upset about that.
00:09:37.460 But in this profession that we do,
00:09:39.460 the question is, it's not about what affects us directly.
00:09:43.160 It's about what's actually going on in the country.
00:09:47.260 And this is something where, by the way,
00:09:49.220 this idea of on-shoring,
00:09:50.860 this idea of providing jobs for the American people,
00:09:52.960 this is exactly what President Trump campaigned on.
00:09:55.820 And, you know, I'm not trying to be your cheerleader here,
00:09:58.420 but I'm pointing out, I'm calling balls and strikes.
00:10:00.620 This is precisely what he said
00:10:02.660 that he would get to work doing.
00:10:04.300 Here we are at exactly 100 days in,
00:10:07.060 and he's got a Trump job boom that is,
00:10:10.460 by the way, it's not something that I'm predicating.
00:10:12.100 It's something that's actually seen in the data.
00:10:14.880 That's what's going on writ large
00:10:16.020 across the country right now.
00:10:18.900 Yeah, absolutely.
00:10:20.320 Well, I mean, there was a report recently
00:10:22.840 that showed that 25% of Americans
00:10:26.480 would be willing to work in manufacturing.
00:10:28.580 The people who don't like the idea of manufacturing,
00:10:31.160 perhaps they've never had anyone in their family
00:10:32.880 who was involved with direct or primary production.
00:10:34.800 And, you know, maybe they just have an email job.
00:10:38.800 So for them, it's not appealing
00:10:40.240 or they don't think it would be appealing.
00:10:41.620 They looked at that number of 25% and said,
00:10:44.500 wow, you know, this proves that manufacturing
00:10:46.120 will never find takers in the American workforce.
00:10:49.080 Thing is, only 8% of Americans
00:10:51.460 currently work in manufacturing.
00:10:53.020 So my friends who do manufacturing
00:10:54.440 were over the moon ecstatic,
00:10:56.420 saying, look how many more people
00:10:57.820 want to come work for us.
00:10:59.220 So this is one of these things
00:11:01.000 where it's very easy to misread the tea leaves
00:11:03.600 from the, you know,
00:11:06.100 from a comfortable birth at a DC desk.
00:11:10.060 There are a lot of real Americans
00:11:11.680 who have, you know, perhaps they
00:11:13.480 or their parents had real production jobs
00:11:16.520 that were sources of pride
00:11:18.060 and that were great options for them.
00:11:21.600 And then when those went away,
00:11:23.700 it's not as though they just sat around
00:11:25.180 unemployed forever,
00:11:26.060 but there's a certain amount of,
00:11:27.200 you know, part-time security guard,
00:11:28.940 gig economy in there.
00:11:30.220 I think there are a lot of people
00:11:31.080 who want to get back to work.
00:11:32.540 And as the United States,
00:11:33.920 I think we've got a huge amount of capital
00:11:35.400 that would love to employ them.
00:11:36.900 It's just a matter of getting the parts right.
00:11:40.980 Well, and that's actually a great point
00:11:42.520 that you bring up though.
00:11:43.820 People willing,
00:11:45.100 but also there's a lot of people
00:11:46.700 who don't necessarily have the training
00:11:49.200 or the family experience
00:11:50.720 because a lot of these jobs, right,
00:11:52.920 this is something that has been lost
00:11:55.040 as we've moved our society more in search
00:11:58.420 of these, you know, elusive at some,
00:12:01.100 oh, the service sector jobs,
00:12:02.320 the service sector jobs,
00:12:03.420 the service sector jobs.
00:12:04.400 I remember the first time I heard about that
00:12:06.220 when I was, you know,
00:12:07.440 I think still in college
00:12:08.680 and we're going to move to a service sector
00:12:10.960 kind of said, what does that mean?
00:12:11.980 Who are we serving?
00:12:12.960 What are we producing?
00:12:13.860 What are we actually making?
00:12:14.980 And nobody can ever really explain that to you.
00:12:17.900 And ultimately it's because
00:12:19.340 there's a hollowing of the society.
00:12:22.060 There is no primary industry.
00:12:23.860 This is something, of course,
00:12:25.100 Vice President Vance talks about all the time
00:12:27.240 because he's literally lived it
00:12:29.540 in a town where they at once had a primary vector
00:12:32.260 for their economic activity being factories
00:12:34.400 or much of Appalachia.
00:12:36.060 You see mining, of course,
00:12:38.140 coal mines now, of course,
00:12:39.440 drilling with fracking and the LNG fields
00:12:42.240 in like Marcella Shale out of Pennsylvania
00:12:44.140 where I'm from.
00:12:45.080 But we really have lost a lot of this.
00:12:48.820 At one point it was generational knowledge.
00:12:50.560 Now I would even just say
00:12:51.420 it's national knowledge
00:12:53.280 of how to go into this,
00:12:55.160 into these types of fields.
00:12:56.360 And this is going to become an issue
00:12:57.800 as we move back towards it.
00:13:01.080 Yeah, I totally agree.
00:13:02.680 I mean, if you talk to people who work in,
00:13:05.580 for example, electrical utilities,
00:13:07.800 or if you talk to people who work in various trades,
00:13:11.100 you'll often hear this question.
00:13:12.320 I don't know where the next generation is coming from.
00:13:14.180 I don't know where the continuity is.
00:13:15.620 I know of at least one major engineering college
00:13:18.220 that shut down its power engineering program
00:13:20.880 for lack of interest,
00:13:23.920 which is too bad because my son was considering
00:13:26.160 going there to study that.
00:13:27.560 But that sort of took that one off the table
00:13:29.480 when we found out it had been shuttered.
00:13:31.960 I guess I would say there is this discontinuity
00:13:35.760 and probably the form of manufacturing employment
00:13:38.980 that we would look to see grow in the future
00:13:41.020 would not precisely resemble the mass assembly line labor,
00:13:46.040 I guess, media image or vibe
00:13:47.940 that a lot of people have in their bones
00:13:50.080 or just saw it on TV.
00:13:54.160 It's not going to look like that,
00:13:55.520 but it's going to look like something.
00:13:57.660 And I mean, even in China,
00:13:59.100 it doesn't look like that anymore.
00:14:00.460 Not so much.
00:14:01.140 There are sweatshops in China, for sure.
00:14:02.880 There are people sitting at a sewing machine
00:14:04.600 12 hours a day, six days a week.
00:14:06.660 But a lot of what we're talking about
00:14:08.580 when we talk about Chinese advanced manufacturing,
00:14:10.940 the kind of stuff we would like to make here,
00:14:12.960 advanced batteries,
00:14:14.460 weapon system components, to be sure,
00:14:18.620 but also just something as simple as the BYD car.
00:14:22.160 The things stopping us from making it here
00:14:23.940 are usually not the quality of worker available.
00:14:27.580 They're usually not even the technology,
00:14:30.440 although there's some integration that we could be doing.
00:14:32.560 It's as much as anything,
00:14:33.700 just capital systematic distinction.
00:14:35.440 We're coming up on a quick break here.
00:14:38.920 And I'd love if I can hold you over.
00:14:40.760 So honored to have you on the program here today,
00:14:43.480 because I think a big piece of this
00:14:45.800 that we want to look at nationwide is China
00:14:49.000 and what we can do to compete with China
00:14:52.100 and hopefully, and I suspect we can,
00:14:54.440 out-compete China.
00:14:55.980 This is Jack Posobiec.
00:14:57.440 You're listening to Human Events Daily,
00:14:59.560 Real America's Voice,
00:15:00.720 and the Salem Radio Network.
00:15:03.060 Right back.
00:15:03.780 Quick break.
00:15:05.440 Hey, you know,
00:15:20.720 they talk about influencers.
00:15:22.260 These are influencers,
00:15:24.040 and they're friends of mine.
00:15:26.540 Jack Posobiec.
00:15:28.040 Where's Jack?
00:15:28.980 Jack.
00:15:29.960 He's done a great job.
00:15:31.460 All right, Jack Posobiec.
00:15:35.740 Here we are back live.
00:15:37.380 Human Events Daily,
00:15:38.940 Real America's Voice,
00:15:39.720 Salem Radio Network,
00:15:40.860 welcoming in the third hour,
00:15:42.840 the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:15:44.600 We're here live with FCC Commissioner
00:15:46.720 Nate Symington.
00:15:48.520 And Commissioner,
00:15:49.480 just when we left before,
00:15:50.800 we were talking about China,
00:15:52.440 and we were talking about capacity.
00:15:53.960 One of the things,
00:15:55.600 as a prior Navy intelligence officer,
00:15:57.940 I think a lot about shipbuilding.
00:16:00.020 I actually do.
00:16:00.680 I spend a lot.
00:16:01.380 I'd be, you know,
00:16:02.080 kind of my nerdy hobby,
00:16:03.240 but I, you know,
00:16:04.020 it is certainly something that I consider
00:16:06.120 when it,
00:16:07.280 in terms of America's force projection,
00:16:10.980 in terms of our ability
00:16:12.220 to protect our merchant ships
00:16:15.100 out on the open seas,
00:16:17.420 and freedom of navigation around the world,
00:16:19.300 an increasingly tumultuous world.
00:16:22.320 Anyone can see what's going on in the Red Sea
00:16:24.320 and the Houthis right now,
00:16:25.680 as pertains to that.
00:16:27.380 And yet,
00:16:28.080 we've fallen so far behind
00:16:30.300 the Chinese on shipbuilding,
00:16:32.100 to the point of where I believe
00:16:33.060 Vice President Vance said
00:16:34.540 that we've only built
00:16:35.520 something like three major ships
00:16:37.640 in an entirety of all last year.
00:16:40.960 This is something that falls directly in line
00:16:42.700 with what you're talking about, isn't it?
00:16:45.280 It absolutely does.
00:16:47.220 It absolutely does.
00:16:48.880 Imagine going back
00:16:50.020 to the United States of 1930,
00:16:52.580 1950, 1970,
00:16:54.660 and saying one day,
00:16:55.900 China is going to build
00:16:56.580 half the ships in the world.
00:16:58.140 Japan and South Korea
00:16:58.980 are going to split
00:16:59.560 much of the difference.
00:17:00.940 Italy will have a piece
00:17:01.900 and the United States will have zero.
00:17:03.900 But that's within,
00:17:05.220 you know,
00:17:05.400 we built a few ships
00:17:06.640 in the United States.
00:17:07.520 There are some regulatory
00:17:08.440 and other legal compliance reasons,
00:17:10.260 but it's not the industry
00:17:11.980 it used to be.
00:17:13.260 You know,
00:17:14.140 the father of capitalism,
00:17:15.620 Adam Smith,
00:17:16.360 was identifying things
00:17:17.560 that governments
00:17:17.980 should be spending on.
00:17:18.980 And one of his examples
00:17:19.840 was the Navy,
00:17:20.700 which makes sense
00:17:21.420 for 18th century Britain.
00:17:23.500 It seems funny to say
00:17:26.680 that we're going to have
00:17:28.220 military shipbuilding
00:17:29.340 unless we have
00:17:30.440 a comprehensive full stack
00:17:32.080 of the associated
00:17:33.400 civilian technologies
00:17:34.660 and people with relevant
00:17:36.120 civilian training
00:17:36.800 to step in.
00:17:37.980 It's very,
00:17:39.300 very difficult
00:17:39.740 to imagine
00:17:40.440 a truly healthy Navy
00:17:42.920 without some sort of strength
00:17:44.500 in this area.
00:17:45.040 And it's strange
00:17:46.120 that,
00:17:47.020 as you say,
00:17:48.220 a Navy built
00:17:49.240 to protect commerce
00:17:50.420 internationally
00:17:51.060 in an uncertain world.
00:17:52.380 And, you know,
00:17:52.740 there's still piracy.
00:17:53.640 There's a movie about it.
00:17:54.380 I'm the captain now.
00:17:56.560 It's funny
00:17:57.220 that in a world like this,
00:17:58.500 the United States
00:17:59.320 has less presence
00:18:00.740 in this area
00:18:01.300 than the international
00:18:02.820 guarantor of the seas
00:18:04.000 would be expected
00:18:05.060 to have.
00:18:05.660 I guess just to put a pin
00:18:10.240 in this one,
00:18:12.020 with the case,
00:18:13.080 what I'm saying
00:18:13.540 advanced technology
00:18:14.360 is to build the Navy.
00:18:16.060 We need a steel industry
00:18:17.920 for this
00:18:18.440 that is truly healthy
00:18:20.100 and flourishing,
00:18:20.920 but we also need
00:18:21.940 an advanced manufacturing sector
00:18:23.620 that's capable
00:18:24.560 of meeting
00:18:25.300 the kinds of price points
00:18:26.380 and capabilities
00:18:27.160 that can only be acquired
00:18:29.020 by longstanding
00:18:30.500 industrial engagement
00:18:32.040 outside of the normal
00:18:34.100 military contracting process.
00:18:35.940 I've heard from people
00:18:37.080 working in this area
00:18:37.940 that the South Koreans
00:18:39.320 can do things
00:18:40.000 in two days or a week
00:18:41.200 that might take us
00:18:42.140 six months or more to do,
00:18:43.640 and they've developed
00:18:44.480 that expertise
00:18:45.120 painstakingly over time,
00:18:46.680 and if the answer for us
00:18:48.100 is that it's better
00:18:48.680 to repair our ships there,
00:18:50.000 well, that might be
00:18:50.640 a good short-term answer,
00:18:51.840 but as far as
00:18:52.320 a long-term answer,
00:18:53.500 it's obviously got to be
00:18:54.600 development of American capability.
00:18:56.160 Otherwise,
00:18:56.580 we're not going to be
00:18:57.220 up to our jobs
00:18:57.920 of keeping the seas free.
00:19:02.040 And that's what it all
00:19:02.960 comes down to, right?
00:19:04.200 You know,
00:19:04.380 you talk about these things,
00:19:06.340 you talk about
00:19:06.780 Maris, Alabama, right?
00:19:08.060 We needed our ship
00:19:09.660 to be able to perform
00:19:10.700 that maneuver
00:19:11.220 so that the Navy SEAL snipers
00:19:12.620 from SEAL Team 6
00:19:13.900 could be able
00:19:14.780 to get in place
00:19:15.440 to deal with
00:19:16.240 those Somalian pirates.
00:19:17.980 And so, you know,
00:19:19.060 it's one of these situations
00:19:20.340 where, you know,
00:19:21.780 these are old problems.
00:19:23.280 These are actually,
00:19:24.200 shipbuilding is one
00:19:25.060 of the things
00:19:25.560 that in many ways
00:19:26.400 built the United States
00:19:27.860 even back when we were
00:19:29.080 just the 13 colonies.
00:19:30.840 These are not new industries
00:19:33.280 at all.
00:19:34.600 What's new is this idea
00:19:36.040 through globalism
00:19:37.420 that we didn't need
00:19:39.080 these industries anymore
00:19:40.120 and that we could
00:19:40.680 offshore them
00:19:41.760 and then somehow
00:19:42.580 just bring back
00:19:43.380 the products here
00:19:44.080 through the flow of capital.
00:19:45.420 And it really isn't working.
00:19:47.000 And this is why
00:19:47.740 for so many reasons,
00:19:49.140 places like Plymouth,
00:19:50.600 places like Portsmouth,
00:19:51.880 places like Newport News,
00:19:53.760 where so many incredible ships
00:19:55.660 are built,
00:19:56.300 this is why
00:19:57.560 those areas
00:19:58.460 have been built up so much
00:19:59.460 and there's so many jobs
00:20:00.340 out there.
00:20:01.040 Well, guess what?
00:20:01.840 They're going to be lost
00:20:03.180 and those are going to be
00:20:03.820 rotten up in Connecticut.
00:20:05.840 I could just keep
00:20:06.620 naming off places
00:20:07.440 and areas where
00:20:08.420 there's so much
00:20:09.500 economic activity
00:20:10.500 surrounding this
00:20:11.340 just from the military side,
00:20:12.720 not to mention commercial.
00:20:13.660 I'm from Philadelphia,
00:20:14.400 by the way,
00:20:14.860 where we've got
00:20:15.320 effectively a mothballed
00:20:16.940 shipyard that used to be
00:20:17.880 one of the great
00:20:18.980 job providers in the area.
00:20:20.720 It was the Philadelphia Navy Yard.
00:20:22.180 Commissioner,
00:20:22.740 where could people go
00:20:23.480 to track you?
00:20:24.700 This was great.
00:20:25.340 This was not what we planned
00:20:26.580 on talking about at all,
00:20:27.600 but sometimes it just
00:20:28.640 works out that way.
00:20:29.740 Where could people go
00:20:30.320 to get more information
00:20:31.080 from you?
00:20:33.640 Well, my at is
00:20:34.920 Symington FCC,
00:20:36.620 so S-I-M-I-N-G-T-O-N
00:20:38.720 FCC,
00:20:39.760 and that's the same at
00:20:41.140 on Instagram,
00:20:42.200 Twitter,
00:20:42.560 and True Social.
00:20:43.680 Just maybe one last
00:20:44.680 closing comment on the ships.
00:20:46.660 In Primary Colors,
00:20:47.820 which came out in 91 or 92,
00:20:49.900 the Clinton stand-in
00:20:51.100 is already telling people
00:20:52.860 in Portsmouth,
00:20:53.900 you know,
00:20:54.180 we're not going to be
00:20:55.260 making ships anymore.
00:20:56.420 The muscle jobs
00:20:57.340 are going overseas
00:20:58.280 is, I believe,
00:20:59.100 the phrase.
00:20:59.740 So he's all but telling them
00:21:01.020 learn to code.
00:21:02.020 So this has been in the air
00:21:03.740 for more than 30 years,
00:21:05.140 and we've had plenty
00:21:06.040 of lead time to deal with it,
00:21:07.500 but, you know,
00:21:08.120 the first step is admitting.
00:21:10.520 First step is admitting
00:21:11.600 you have a problem.
00:21:12.580 We'll be right back here
00:21:13.460 at Human Events Daily.
00:21:14.220 And Jack,
00:21:22.440 where is Jack?
00:21:24.580 Where is Jack?
00:21:26.820 Where is he?
00:21:28.100 Jack,
00:21:28.600 I want to see you.
00:21:31.740 Great job, Jack.
00:21:33.200 Thank you.
00:21:33.960 What a job you do.
00:21:35.380 You know,
00:21:35.620 we have an incredible thing.
00:21:36.780 We're always talking
00:21:37.360 about the fake news
00:21:38.360 and the bad,
00:21:39.060 but we have guys,
00:21:40.480 and these are the guys
00:21:41.480 who'll be getting
00:21:42.040 all right,
00:21:44.740 Jack Posobiec.
00:21:45.580 We are back live here,
00:21:48.180 Washington, D.C.
00:21:49.400 Another beautiful day
00:21:50.660 in Washington, D.C.
00:21:52.080 I'm glad it's good weather today
00:21:53.500 because immediately after this,
00:21:55.960 I'm going to a fun run.
00:21:58.180 My kids,
00:21:59.320 where they're going to
00:22:00.160 throw paint on me,
00:22:01.180 which will be great.
00:22:02.760 I'm really, really excited.
00:22:04.440 I will be taking
00:22:05.080 the jacket off for that.
00:22:07.820 It's a fundraiser.
00:22:08.760 I want to welcome in here
00:22:09.500 the Salem Radio Network
00:22:10.620 as well as
00:22:11.100 The Real America's Voice
00:22:11.860 audience and our next guest,
00:22:14.200 the great Dr. Steve Turley.
00:22:16.600 Dr. Turley,
00:22:17.200 thanks so much for joining us
00:22:17.980 back here on Human Events.
00:22:19.880 Oh, it's great
00:22:20.380 to be back with you, Jack.
00:22:21.400 Do I get to come
00:22:22.340 and throw paint at you too?
00:22:24.820 You can come,
00:22:25.700 but I've got to have
00:22:26.560 my paintball gun there,
00:22:27.460 so you better be ready.
00:22:28.660 Oh, no.
00:22:29.620 Oh, I'm going to get it back.
00:22:30.880 Oh, there you go.
00:22:31.680 With my kind of courage,
00:22:32.840 I'll hide behind the kids.
00:22:32.980 Yeah, and I'll see some kids
00:22:33.540 when I mess with Poso
00:22:34.240 when I get the Titman A5 out.
00:22:37.660 But, Dr. Turley,
00:22:39.520 I wanted to ask you
00:22:40.780 what we've seen,
00:22:42.140 and you and I were kind of
00:22:42.960 tweeting the other day
00:22:44.000 when Easter happened
00:22:45.580 that it seemed like
00:22:47.640 from a variety
00:22:49.260 of different signs
00:22:50.260 that this Easter
00:22:51.380 seemed like
00:22:52.260 a bigger Easter.
00:22:54.060 It just,
00:22:54.860 it's hard to say
00:22:56.020 because Easter's always big.
00:22:57.040 Of course,
00:22:57.380 it's the biggest Christian
00:22:58.460 festival and holiday
00:23:00.100 of the year,
00:23:01.180 liturgically and theologically,
00:23:02.500 of course.
00:23:02.800 But there was more
00:23:04.540 around this Easter.
00:23:06.120 You saw the great
00:23:06.800 King of Kings
00:23:07.520 from Angel Studios,
00:23:08.580 by the way,
00:23:09.260 was breaking records
00:23:10.440 at the box office.
00:23:11.680 And then The Chosen
00:23:12.780 was at the box office
00:23:13.860 with like three other movies.
00:23:15.600 I think there was another
00:23:16.460 Christian-themed movie
00:23:17.780 that was at the box office.
00:23:19.120 Meanwhile,
00:23:19.620 Snow White went down
00:23:20.960 in flames,
00:23:21.980 Snow Woke.
00:23:23.260 What is going on right now?
00:23:25.560 And are we experiencing
00:23:26.840 a Christian revival?
00:23:30.040 We are.
00:23:31.160 In a nutshell,
00:23:31.800 we are.
00:23:32.500 It's pretty astonishing stuff.
00:23:35.200 Scholars call it
00:23:36.120 re-traditionalization.
00:23:38.200 And it's really happening.
00:23:39.800 We're seeing it in real time.
00:23:41.360 I was following
00:23:42.220 your ex-feed
00:23:43.580 right around Easter weekend.
00:23:45.720 You were on top
00:23:46.460 of it all as usual.
00:23:48.360 But yeah,
00:23:48.960 I mean,
00:23:49.160 the numbers don't lie.
00:23:50.480 In France,
00:23:51.360 there was a record-breaking
00:23:52.900 17,800 converts
00:23:56.240 baptized across the country.
00:23:58.820 This is 10,400 adult baptisms.
00:24:02.360 7,400 young people baptisms.
00:24:05.260 This is between 11 and 17.
00:24:07.260 All into the Catholic Church.
00:24:08.960 And keep in mind,
00:24:09.620 these are baptisms.
00:24:10.480 So these are converts
00:24:11.580 coming in.
00:24:12.700 They've never been baptized before.
00:24:14.880 45% increase
00:24:16.980 from this time
00:24:18.300 last year in 2024.
00:24:20.260 It wasn't just France.
00:24:21.640 Belgium.
00:24:22.420 Baptisms were up 50%
00:24:24.000 from this time last year.
00:24:25.640 In London,
00:24:26.920 in the Catholic Archdiocese
00:24:28.540 of Westminster,
00:24:29.380 there were a record number
00:24:31.120 500 converts
00:24:32.800 who were received
00:24:33.760 into the church
00:24:34.520 on Easter Vigil.
00:24:35.980 That's a 24% increase
00:24:38.140 from their previous highest,
00:24:40.600 which was back in 2018.
00:24:42.100 And this is, again,
00:24:44.000 part of this stunning
00:24:45.320 sort of surge,
00:24:46.700 particularly in trad
00:24:48.060 Catholic church membership
00:24:49.560 in the UK.
00:24:50.800 They're on course
00:24:51.860 to surpass,
00:24:52.720 and I bet you know this, Jack,
00:24:53.980 they're on course
00:24:54.520 to surpass
00:24:55.260 the Anglican church membership
00:24:56.920 for the first time
00:24:58.180 since Henry VIII,
00:24:59.520 since the founding
00:25:00.380 of the Anglican church.
00:25:01.880 And we saw some
00:25:02.380 comparable numbers
00:25:03.280 here in the United States
00:25:04.160 to St. Patrick's.
00:25:06.500 Yeah, it's stunning.
00:25:08.520 It's stunning.
00:25:09.060 350 people were baptized
00:25:11.160 in St. Patrick's.
00:25:11.620 Wait, does that mean,
00:25:11.980 by the way,
00:25:12.480 wait, wait, Dr. Turley,
00:25:13.380 I have to ask,
00:25:13.980 does that mean,
00:25:14.800 does that mean we get
00:25:16.460 all our abbeys
00:25:17.280 and monasteries
00:25:18.080 and churches back
00:25:18.940 that the king
00:25:19.760 and the crown
00:25:20.400 confiscated from
00:25:22.000 the Catholic church?
00:25:22.720 I think I'll have to wait
00:25:23.560 on that one, I suppose.
00:25:25.360 Well, bring your paintball back.
00:25:26.760 I think Westminster Abbey
00:25:26.860 might still be a little bit
00:25:27.760 out of reach.
00:25:28.420 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:29.060 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:32.960 No, it's amazing.
00:25:34.160 It's amazing stuff,
00:25:34.820 I have to tell you,
00:25:35.760 because what's going on here
00:25:37.260 is just par for the course
00:25:38.880 of what's happening
00:25:39.640 all over the world.
00:25:41.760 Scholars such as
00:25:42.740 Rodney Stark
00:25:43.740 of Baylor University
00:25:44.860 just passed away
00:25:45.920 a couple of years.
00:25:46.700 He was calling it
00:25:47.500 what he was noticing
00:25:48.900 over the last decade,
00:25:50.520 the single greatest
00:25:51.420 religious revival
00:25:52.480 in the world
00:25:53.200 we've actually ever seen.
00:25:55.040 And it is turning
00:25:56.700 the world more and more
00:25:57.840 politically conservative.
00:25:59.340 And it's this process
00:26:00.620 known as retraditionalization,
00:26:02.500 where more and more
00:26:03.680 populations
00:26:04.380 are pushing back
00:26:05.480 against liberal globalism,
00:26:06.840 against wokeness,
00:26:08.440 by re-embracing
00:26:09.760 nation, culture,
00:26:11.200 custom, and tradition,
00:26:12.620 most particularly
00:26:13.320 their religious traditions,
00:26:14.900 as mechanisms
00:26:15.840 of resistance
00:26:16.720 against the anti-cultural
00:26:18.500 processes
00:26:19.020 of liberal globalism
00:26:20.320 and its secular aristocracy.
00:26:22.080 And they're embracing,
00:26:22.780 what's so cool about it, Jack,
00:26:24.540 is they're embracing
00:26:25.360 like real kind of
00:26:27.280 classical,
00:26:28.320 traditionalist Christianity.
00:26:30.180 They're attracted
00:26:31.220 to the Latin Mass.
00:26:32.860 We're seeing in my communion,
00:26:34.760 the Orthodox communion,
00:26:35.800 we've seen an 80% increase
00:26:38.160 in converts since 2022,
00:26:40.560 which was the highest
00:26:41.440 number recorded
00:26:42.940 post-pandemic.
00:26:44.640 And, you know,
00:26:45.440 you and I were talking
00:26:46.360 about this in Austin.
00:26:49.140 It's being driven
00:26:50.680 primarily by young men.
00:26:53.240 Young men,
00:26:54.480 more than anyone else,
00:26:55.780 are coming into the church.
00:26:56.880 Actually, for the very first time,
00:26:59.480 we're finding
00:27:00.380 that young men's
00:27:02.440 faith commitment
00:27:03.900 is larger than women's.
00:27:06.660 So this was based
00:27:08.160 on an American
00:27:08.940 Enterprise Institute study.
00:27:11.840 Gen Zers,
00:27:12.640 5,000 of them.
00:27:13.900 So these are people
00:27:14.460 born between 1997 and 2012.
00:27:17.560 And in that survey,
00:27:18.720 they asked,
00:27:19.320 do you identify
00:27:20.180 as religious or non-religious?
00:27:22.480 About 40% of the women
00:27:24.120 there described themselves
00:27:25.500 as non-religious.
00:27:26.880 But only about 30%
00:27:28.540 of the men
00:27:29.060 described themselves
00:27:29.980 as non-religious.
00:27:30.880 That's unheard of.
00:27:32.120 We've never seen that before.
00:27:34.080 Researchers always find men
00:27:37.620 more non-religious
00:27:39.140 than women.
00:27:40.800 Always.
00:27:41.760 Any age cohort,
00:27:44.300 you name it.
00:27:45.360 Not with Gen Z.
00:27:46.480 Gen Z looks like
00:27:48.620 it's not just
00:27:49.340 the most religious demographic
00:27:51.800 that we have
00:27:52.500 in terms of age.
00:27:53.580 it may actually be
00:27:55.080 the one representing
00:27:56.200 where the men
00:27:57.200 are returning
00:27:57.960 and they're turning
00:27:58.960 to faith.
00:28:01.740 And this is amazing.
00:28:03.380 And by the way,
00:28:04.360 I'll say this with,
00:28:05.560 you know,
00:28:05.940 we see it at the Catholic Church
00:28:07.240 where if you go
00:28:08.900 to churches now,
00:28:10.580 it started in
00:28:12.400 the Latin Rite churches,
00:28:14.080 but now it's moved over
00:28:15.420 even into the Novus Ordo.
00:28:17.020 That's the ones
00:28:17.660 that you'll see in English
00:28:19.480 for those out there
00:28:21.300 trying to follow up
00:28:22.640 with all of our liturgical talk.
00:28:25.180 You're Latin.
00:28:25.900 Yeah, that's right.
00:28:27.500 That you will see the veils.
00:28:30.280 The veils are coming back.
00:28:31.680 And what's so interesting to me
00:28:33.120 is that you see the veils
00:28:35.220 coming back with women
00:28:36.520 who are sort of,
00:28:37.400 you know, over 60,
00:28:38.840 but also the women under 30.
00:28:41.260 The women under 30
00:28:42.560 are coming in in veils.
00:28:44.300 And you're seeing
00:28:45.320 they will kneel,
00:28:47.540 a full kneel
00:28:48.240 before they go for communion
00:28:49.560 and kneel
00:28:50.540 and no communion
00:28:51.380 on the hand
00:28:52.620 actually communion
00:28:53.620 on the tongue.
00:28:55.860 And what does that mean?
00:28:56.700 That, you know,
00:28:57.120 basically that is
00:28:57.780 the more traditional way.
00:28:59.160 I am not worthy.
00:29:00.360 This is the body of Christ.
00:29:01.600 And again,
00:29:02.180 these are these
00:29:03.060 outward implements
00:29:04.540 that we can all see
00:29:06.100 to realize
00:29:07.160 that what's going on
00:29:08.780 is,
00:29:09.380 and I think,
00:29:10.160 and I'll ask your
00:29:11.040 take on it as well,
00:29:12.380 but I imagine it's similar,
00:29:13.520 that what's going on
00:29:15.140 is that we've lived
00:29:16.140 in such a secular,
00:29:17.880 atheistic world.
00:29:19.060 It's like, guys,
00:29:19.580 the atheists,
00:29:20.200 you've had your shot.
00:29:21.320 You had your shot
00:29:21.980 and it completely failed.
00:29:23.060 I said it yesterday
00:29:23.640 on the program.
00:29:24.660 COVID was your shining moment
00:29:27.840 in the mud
00:29:28.800 and people realize
00:29:30.560 that we can't go on
00:29:31.680 like this anymore.
00:29:32.660 And so they're grasping
00:29:33.560 for some sort
00:29:34.940 of traditional meaning.
00:29:36.880 They want to snap
00:29:37.660 all the way back
00:29:39.060 as far as they can go.
00:29:40.500 And that's why
00:29:41.600 they're going back
00:29:42.380 where?
00:29:42.940 To the most traditional
00:29:44.500 forms of worship
00:29:46.060 that we have available.
00:29:47.980 Those available
00:29:48.740 in the traditional rites
00:29:49.880 of the Catholic Church
00:29:51.120 and in the Orthodox Church.
00:29:53.680 That's why
00:29:54.300 they're looking for that.
00:29:54.980 They don't want the,
00:29:56.060 you know,
00:29:56.760 the woke,
00:29:57.680 modernist,
00:29:58.540 you know,
00:29:59.420 kind of stuff.
00:30:00.060 And I was at that
00:30:00.720 contemporary
00:30:01.360 prayer service
00:30:02.460 with the female bishop
00:30:03.880 that President Trump
00:30:05.220 and J.D. Vance
00:30:06.060 and she starts yelling
00:30:06.980 at them and go.
00:30:07.800 I was sitting a couple pews
00:30:09.800 behind them
00:30:10.860 with my brother
00:30:11.740 and just she's going off
00:30:14.100 about illegal aliens
00:30:15.080 and you shouldn't do that.
00:30:16.320 Everyone's kind of
00:30:17.000 looking at each other
00:30:17.780 like what do we get
00:30:18.980 ourselves into?
00:30:20.040 And yes,
00:30:20.480 yeah,
00:30:20.760 pull their tax-exempt status
00:30:23.380 along with Harvard's,
00:30:24.600 by the way.
00:30:24.960 But do you think
00:30:25.440 that's what it is?
00:30:26.120 Are people searching
00:30:26.860 for meaning
00:30:27.340 and they want
00:30:27.860 the fullest meaning
00:30:28.840 they can find?
00:30:31.540 Yeah,
00:30:32.160 I think you're
00:30:32.900 absolutely right.
00:30:33.440 Yeah,
00:30:33.700 well,
00:30:34.580 what you found yourself
00:30:35.980 in is something
00:30:36.540 called Episcopalianism
00:30:37.740 and you should listen
00:30:39.800 to Tucker talk
00:30:40.560 about it being
00:30:41.220 an Episcopalian.
00:30:42.200 It's quite the fun
00:30:43.220 stories there.
00:30:44.600 I think you're
00:30:45.380 absolutely right.
00:30:46.820 There's a theorist,
00:30:47.980 a cyclical theorist,
00:30:49.160 very much like
00:30:49.720 fourth turning,
00:30:50.640 but at a bigger
00:30:51.360 like civilizational level
00:30:53.080 by the name
00:30:53.580 of Pityram Sorokin.
00:30:55.080 He's the American
00:30:56.340 Russian sociologist.
00:30:58.760 He founded
00:30:59.020 the sociology department
00:31:00.220 at Harvard
00:31:00.900 back in the 1930s
00:31:02.440 and that's his,
00:31:03.580 you pretty much
00:31:04.680 summed up his argument.
00:31:05.880 His argument
00:31:06.460 in a nutshell
00:31:07.560 is that all
00:31:08.300 civilization
00:31:08.900 is rooted
00:31:09.640 in religion,
00:31:10.720 you know,
00:31:10.920 classic ancient religion.
00:31:12.780 All civilization
00:31:13.480 is rooted
00:31:14.320 in religion
00:31:15.440 because religion
00:31:16.180 provides those
00:31:17.020 sacred frames
00:31:18.100 of reference
00:31:18.880 that give
00:31:20.540 constant renewal
00:31:22.320 to society.
00:31:23.440 Society is always
00:31:24.180 breaking down
00:31:24.840 in some way,
00:31:25.460 shape,
00:31:25.660 or form.
00:31:26.740 It needs
00:31:27.300 to find
00:31:28.180 sort of like
00:31:28.820 a fountain
00:31:29.780 of youth
00:31:30.440 to constantly
00:31:31.100 rejuvenate itself
00:31:32.400 and that's what
00:31:33.280 religion
00:31:33.800 traditionally
00:31:34.700 provided
00:31:35.320 and then
00:31:36.060 he recognized
00:31:36.800 that every society
00:31:37.660 has a secular
00:31:38.680 element to it.
00:31:40.060 You know,
00:31:40.320 you got to learn
00:31:40.960 how to,
00:31:41.360 you got to mow
00:31:41.800 the lawn,
00:31:42.440 you got to do
00:31:42.920 your accounting,
00:31:44.020 you got to
00:31:44.740 cook the meals
00:31:46.540 and blah,
00:31:47.200 blah, blah.
00:31:47.520 So he just saw
00:31:48.800 the secular
00:31:49.340 as just the mundane
00:31:50.380 everyday sort of stuff
00:31:52.020 but the secular
00:31:52.680 was always
00:31:53.640 in some way,
00:31:54.660 shape,
00:31:54.840 or form
00:31:55.320 an embodiment
00:31:56.140 of the sacred,
00:31:57.780 of the eternal,
00:31:58.980 of the religious.
00:31:59.960 He theorized
00:32:01.660 that virtually
00:32:02.260 every society
00:32:03.260 at some point
00:32:04.480 goes on a
00:32:05.280 prodigal journey
00:32:06.180 where the secular
00:32:07.480 sort of breaks
00:32:08.480 off from the sacred
00:32:10.520 and says,
00:32:11.640 I got this,
00:32:12.480 I don't need you
00:32:13.180 no more
00:32:13.660 kind of thing.
00:32:14.500 So it breaks
00:32:15.180 off from the sacred
00:32:16.040 and tries to do
00:32:17.160 its own thing
00:32:17.900 for a while
00:32:18.620 but it inevitably
00:32:20.020 ends up collapsing
00:32:21.440 because it doesn't
00:32:22.860 have those eternal
00:32:24.200 sources of renewal
00:32:25.580 that you get
00:32:26.920 only with the
00:32:27.920 religious sacred.
00:32:29.200 So it ends up
00:32:29.880 inevitably collapsing.
00:32:31.460 I love how you said it
00:32:32.320 like in the sense of
00:32:33.280 COVID in many ways
00:32:35.020 I think was
00:32:35.660 it was the most
00:32:37.340 stark moment
00:32:38.240 where we recognized
00:32:39.360 is this what
00:32:40.480 we signed up for?
00:32:41.360 The sterile,
00:32:42.520 ugly,
00:32:43.100 sort of tyrannical,
00:32:44.640 despotic nonsense?
00:32:46.220 Is this what we
00:32:46.640 So it starts to rot
00:32:48.800 but what Sorokin,
00:32:50.280 this is the cyclical part
00:32:51.560 pointed out,
00:32:53.020 Sorokin noted
00:32:54.120 that that rot
00:32:55.100 actually turned more
00:32:56.060 into a compost
00:32:57.080 and then the
00:32:58.280 religious seeds
00:32:59.640 are still there
00:33:00.880 to blossom again
00:33:01.800 and they're still there
00:33:02.680 because they really
00:33:03.320 are eternal.
00:33:04.420 They really are
00:33:05.540 an eternal point
00:33:06.360 of renewal.
00:33:06.900 We may leave them
00:33:08.040 these eternal seeds
00:33:09.840 but it doesn't leave us
00:33:11.260 and so when we rot,
00:33:12.800 when we come back
00:33:13.820 on our prodigal journey,
00:33:15.120 all of a sudden
00:33:15.860 you'll inevitably see
00:33:17.080 another springtide
00:33:18.180 of religious renewal.
00:33:19.660 It's a beautiful
00:33:20.260 cyclical picture.
00:33:21.540 This is why,
00:33:22.740 by the way,
00:33:23.340 that when the communists
00:33:24.980 come to power
00:33:25.860 in any country,
00:33:27.400 anywhere,
00:33:28.300 and the revolutionaries,
00:33:29.520 what's the first group
00:33:30.700 they go after?
00:33:31.700 Well, they try to root
00:33:32.640 out those seeds.
00:33:33.780 That's exactly
00:33:34.460 who they target
00:33:35.300 because they realize
00:33:36.400 that there cannot be
00:33:37.880 a competing religion
00:33:39.380 to their religion.
00:33:41.720 And so what do they do?
00:33:42.780 They target the priests,
00:33:43.740 they target the nuns,
00:33:44.520 they target the clergy,
00:33:45.260 and we saw this
00:33:45.900 from Spain to Russia
00:33:48.180 to France to China
00:33:50.540 and even the religious there,
00:33:52.320 the monks,
00:33:53.120 and they wipe them out
00:33:55.560 completely until,
00:33:57.800 or in some cases,
00:33:58.760 they are stopped.
00:33:59.300 By the way,
00:33:59.740 happy Franco Friday.
00:34:01.480 This is Jack Posobiec.
00:34:02.380 You're listening to
00:34:03.160 Human Events Daily,
00:34:04.340 Real America's Voice,
00:34:05.360 and the Salem Radio Network
00:34:07.240 along with Dr. Steve Turley.
00:34:08.380 We'll be right back.
00:34:15.260 Jack is a great guy.
00:34:23.860 He's written a fantastic book.
00:34:25.520 Everybody's talking about it.
00:34:26.780 Go get it.
00:34:27.880 And he's been my friend
00:34:28.840 right from the beginning
00:34:29.780 of this whole beautiful event.
00:34:31.860 And we're going to turn it around
00:34:33.220 and make our country
00:34:34.160 pray to you again.
00:34:35.140 Amen.
00:34:37.020 Now a couple shift happening
00:34:38.760 in American public life.
00:34:40.640 Ever since the baby boomer generation,
00:34:42.540 surveys have shown women
00:34:43.980 are more religious than men,
00:34:46.040 but not anymore.
00:34:48.340 Two new surveys show
00:34:50.360 Gen Z men are more likely
00:34:51.980 to claim religious affiliation
00:34:54.340 and even attend church
00:34:56.560 than their female counterparts.
00:34:58.700 Let's bring in NBC News correspondent
00:35:00.260 and NBC News Now Daily anchor,
00:35:03.180 Morgan Radford,
00:35:04.140 for a closer look at this trend
00:35:05.600 and what it means
00:35:07.920 even politically, Morgan.
00:35:09.480 Mika, great question.
00:35:10.600 It has a lot of political implications,
00:35:12.620 especially if you sort of look down
00:35:13.980 in the decades to come.
00:35:15.240 But it's a trend that America's
00:35:16.560 religious leaders
00:35:17.380 have been paying attention to.
00:35:18.680 But it's also something
00:35:19.800 that a growing number
00:35:21.100 of political groups
00:35:22.080 are tracking
00:35:22.580 since this shift
00:35:23.800 toward religion
00:35:24.700 is happening
00:35:25.280 at the very same time
00:35:26.680 that we're also seeing
00:35:27.580 more young men
00:35:28.400 lean conservative
00:35:29.180 on a number of social issues.
00:35:31.420 All right, Jack Sobik here.
00:35:32.920 We are back live
00:35:33.980 live for the third hour
00:35:37.780 of the Charlie Kirk Show
00:35:38.760 on the Salem Radio Network
00:35:39.700 as well as
00:35:40.800 Real America's Voice
00:35:42.660 Human Events Daily.
00:35:43.820 We're on with Dr. Steve Turley,
00:35:46.540 the host of Turley Talks
00:35:48.200 and the author of Fight,
00:35:50.960 the new book.
00:35:51.620 You should go and get it
00:35:52.600 and check it out.
00:35:53.220 It explains so much
00:35:54.040 about what's going on right now
00:35:54.960 and what you can do about it.
00:35:56.900 And we're talking about
00:35:57.820 this religious revival.
00:35:59.580 And, you know,
00:36:00.220 we were just talking
00:36:00.800 in the last segment
00:36:01.460 about how this is also,
00:36:04.000 by the way,
00:36:04.700 coming up in political results.
00:36:06.500 You see it in election results.
00:36:07.880 There's this election in Canada
00:36:09.180 that, yes, it went to the liberals.
00:36:11.700 But when you break it out by age,
00:36:13.740 guess what?
00:36:14.500 It's only the 55 plus
00:36:16.140 that voted for the liberals.
00:36:17.920 Every other age demographic
00:36:19.640 under 55
00:36:20.540 voted for the conservatives.
00:36:22.360 This is a complete inversion
00:36:25.160 of what we thought
00:36:26.600 would happen with politics.
00:36:28.100 And so what is it?
00:36:30.080 Do you believe that
00:36:30.960 this is also something
00:36:32.020 that's driving this, Dr. Turley?
00:36:34.820 Oh, definitely.
00:36:36.000 Yeah.
00:36:36.360 Yeah.
00:36:36.600 And I'm I'm I'm laughing
00:36:38.000 because we were talking
00:36:38.820 before the break.
00:36:39.840 There's a large books,
00:36:41.480 about 400 pages,
00:36:42.700 two British authors
00:36:43.620 called The Cultural Backlash.
00:36:45.780 And it's it's been widely known
00:36:48.480 as The Cultural Backlash Thesis.
00:36:49.740 I think it was published
00:36:50.620 in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.
00:36:52.960 And it basically made the argument
00:36:54.500 that, yeah, Trump has won.
00:36:56.880 This is back in twenty sixteen.
00:36:58.100 Yeah, we're seeing
00:36:58.920 the nationalist populace
00:37:00.060 rise all over Europe.
00:37:01.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:02.040 But don't worry.
00:37:03.260 Those are just a bunch
00:37:04.200 of old white men
00:37:05.540 who were threatened
00:37:07.000 by this new, beautiful,
00:37:08.420 multicultural progressivism
00:37:09.840 that's awakening
00:37:11.280 all around them.
00:37:12.500 And they're just doing
00:37:13.560 their Archie Bunker thing.
00:37:14.980 But they're all going
00:37:15.800 to die out.
00:37:16.640 And within ten years or so,
00:37:18.520 this world is going to be
00:37:19.360 this happy, clappy, woke place.
00:37:21.460 And the reason why
00:37:23.580 that is so absurd
00:37:25.700 is because it's
00:37:26.840 the exact opposite
00:37:27.820 in the end.
00:37:29.000 It's actually the boomers.
00:37:30.980 Sorry, you know,
00:37:32.340 Xers aren't that much better
00:37:33.580 per se.
00:37:34.060 I'm an Xer technically.
00:37:35.280 But but really,
00:37:36.640 the boomers are kind
00:37:37.860 of the they're the hangover,
00:37:39.900 as it were.
00:37:40.640 They're the lag
00:37:41.520 of an old world,
00:37:43.200 a liberal, industrial,
00:37:45.100 modernist world
00:37:46.160 that really came
00:37:47.260 to the fore in 1991
00:37:48.720 with the fall
00:37:49.580 of the Soviet Union.
00:37:50.820 And then we became
00:37:52.080 kind of the unipolar.
00:37:53.900 We became a unipolar world
00:37:55.580 with United States
00:37:56.660 at the head
00:37:57.280 and kind of neocon philosophy
00:37:59.260 saying we basically
00:38:00.400 rule the world.
00:38:01.580 We rule it politically.
00:38:02.900 We rule it economically.
00:38:04.560 We rule it militarily.
00:38:05.900 And and that world,
00:38:09.940 that concept of just
00:38:12.460 the structures,
00:38:13.500 the WTO and the IMF
00:38:15.620 managing world order,
00:38:17.800 the rules based order,
00:38:19.100 where you put all this trust
00:38:21.040 in in in those institutions
00:38:23.380 and in universities
00:38:25.220 and science
00:38:26.100 because they're all rational
00:38:27.800 and objective.
00:38:28.700 That world is dead.
00:38:29.760 I mean, it is it is dead
00:38:32.160 in the hearts,
00:38:33.040 certainly in the hearts
00:38:34.100 and minds of of people
00:38:37.100 under the age,
00:38:38.000 I would say, of 50.
00:38:40.280 And it still lives on.
00:38:42.240 There is the lag.
00:38:43.280 It's still there.
00:38:44.380 No question.
00:38:45.780 But I think politically,
00:38:47.140 it's really only living
00:38:48.540 in the memories of of voters
00:38:51.560 who are probably 60 and up,
00:38:53.740 who still have a lot of trust
00:38:55.360 in those institutions,
00:38:56.420 who still believe,
00:38:57.840 you know,
00:38:58.080 when they're hearing things
00:38:59.020 from the CDC
00:39:00.740 or the W.H.O.
00:39:02.200 Oh, I better listen
00:39:03.280 to that kind of stuff.
00:39:04.880 They still believe in that.
00:39:06.620 And they see the new nationalist
00:39:07.940 populist movements
00:39:09.200 around the world
00:39:10.380 as fascist
00:39:11.980 and Nazi
00:39:12.700 and dangerous
00:39:13.700 and, you know,
00:39:14.760 white supremacists
00:39:16.260 and Christian nationalists
00:39:17.720 and so forth.
00:39:18.700 And when in point of fact,
00:39:20.620 all it is,
00:39:21.420 it's another world
00:39:22.260 that's rising.
00:39:22.900 It's another world order
00:39:23.960 that's rising.
00:39:24.620 What is it?
00:39:25.260 Nation, culture,
00:39:26.640 custom, tradition.
00:39:27.520 It's civilizationalism.
00:39:29.540 So it's a world
00:39:30.220 where civilization
00:39:31.480 is rising together
00:39:33.040 with the ancient religions
00:39:35.000 so as to create
00:39:36.420 a new world
00:39:37.140 that is far more conservative.
00:39:38.940 But I would argue as well,
00:39:40.340 far more free
00:39:41.360 because it breaks through
00:39:42.660 those managerial institutions
00:39:44.560 that function
00:39:45.560 as a one-size-fits-all
00:39:46.980 top-down rule.
00:39:49.740 That's an incredible,
00:39:51.020 that's an incredible way
00:39:51.940 of looking at it.
00:39:52.880 The rise and the return,
00:39:54.920 perhaps,
00:39:55.360 of Western civilization
00:39:56.580 because we see
00:39:57.560 Eastern civilization
00:39:58.640 being absolutely resurgent
00:40:01.080 right now
00:40:01.600 on the world stage.
00:40:03.020 You see it with Russia,
00:40:05.260 which, of course,
00:40:05.780 is an ancient civilization.
00:40:07.260 You see it with India.
00:40:08.640 You see it with China,
00:40:09.900 certainly.
00:40:10.600 These have been around
00:40:11.240 for thousands of years.
00:40:13.380 So who are we
00:40:14.740 as the West?
00:40:16.060 And I think we've been
00:40:16.880 sort of going through
00:40:17.840 this national
00:40:19.120 and civilizational question
00:40:20.580 for quite some time.
00:40:22.000 And, you know,
00:40:22.760 it's making us question
00:40:24.080 some of the shibboleths
00:40:25.520 and the taboos
00:40:26.320 and the values
00:40:27.460 that we've been holding up
00:40:28.400 over the last 30 years
00:40:29.320 and realizing that
00:40:30.140 perhaps that was a singular moment
00:40:32.700 in global history
00:40:35.060 that's never going
00:40:35.960 to come back again.
00:40:37.140 And so we have to remember
00:40:38.120 who we are.
00:40:39.980 Dr. Turley,
00:40:40.500 we're all out of time.
00:40:41.600 Where can people go
00:40:42.180 to follow you
00:40:42.700 and get the book?
00:40:44.500 Oh, you can just
00:40:45.340 punch my name,
00:40:46.460 Dr. Steve Turley,
00:40:47.400 into YouTube or Rumble.
00:40:48.780 You'll find my channel there
00:40:49.860 and just go to Amazon
00:40:50.720 to grab the book,
00:40:51.800 Fight,
00:40:52.160 How Trump and the MAGA Movement
00:40:53.440 are changing the world.
00:40:56.040 Amen.
00:40:56.700 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:40:57.460 as always,
00:40:58.200 you have my permission
00:40:58.780 to lay a short.