On today's show: President Joe Biden calls in to the show, a man with a gun is found on the roof of a building in Washington, D.C., and the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is greeted by anti-Israel protesters outside the Watergate Hotel where he was staying.
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00:08:02.440All right, we're very excited and honored to have on someone who's been doing just the absolute yeoman's work on this from the federal level.
00:08:09.980Senator Ron Johnson now joins myself and Gavin Wicks here on Human Events Daily.
00:08:20.260I wanted to also, again, thank you and your team for making a copy of that report available to us so I could use it on the Tucker Carlson program yesterday.
00:08:29.420Well, I appreciate you using it and I do appreciate both you and Tucker recognizing I have very good investigators working for the Perm Subcommittee Investigation.
00:08:38.960I'm the ranking member right now and they're the ones that, you know, really have been doing yeoman work, calling up, reaching out to and doing interviews with law enforcement.
00:08:50.580Now, I wish the federal law enforcement were actually talking to us, but they're channeling us through their, you know, congressional liaison offices, but local law enforcement has.
00:09:00.900And so what we did do on Sunday, I thought it was important that we release our preliminary findings.
00:09:07.600Now, this was very incomplete, very preliminary, but I thought it was very important based on the fact that the federal officials are stonewalling us.
00:09:16.240I wanted to get some initial findings out there primarily to prompt more people to come forward.
00:09:21.040People in general public that witnessed things, they may have a piece of information they may think is insignificant, but could be an important piece of the puzzle.
00:09:28.600We also need more law enforcement individuals, maybe whistleblowers from the federal agencies because their higher-ups are not communicating with us.
00:09:39.080But since we issued that preliminary finding on Sunday, we've continued to be doing interviews.
00:09:44.080We've gotten more people calling in and, you know, contacting us through our whistleblower email account.
00:11:17.800If you have video or audio evidence, make backup copies.
00:11:21.780You know, certainly make backups before you give it over to the FBI.
00:11:25.000But it's extremely important that people, again, memorialize what they know and then contact our office.
00:11:31.820We have our whistleblower emails on our webpage.
00:11:35.820You can contact us through that email address.
00:11:41.200Now, Senator Johnson, you know, we hear that, so eight shell casings.
00:11:46.320We've essentially heard that eight shots rang out in, obviously, one hitting President Trump, but the rest all within the vicinity of that area.
00:11:56.700So it seems to be that if eight shots were fired from there, this could really be something that speaks to a single shooter.
00:12:03.720Of course, as you say, the investigation is still ongoing.
00:12:08.220So let me ask you as well, though, we hear about the resignation of Director Cheadle earlier this morning after the House Committee investigation or that hearing that she held yesterday, which, quite frankly, to my mind, she didn't provide much evidence of all.
00:12:23.080Let me get your reaction to her resignation and to her hearing yesterday.
00:12:25.940Well, she should have resigned immediately.
00:12:29.400She should have been honest and forthright with the American public.
00:12:33.420I mean, again, I tweeted out immediately, wow, she's not going to answer any questions.
00:12:38.080She's using the tired old excuse of an ongoing investigation.
00:12:41.560And what I've really found infuriating, every time she said it's only been nine days, what I was thinking, it's been nine days.
00:12:49.580I mean, these are basic questions that needed to be answered.
00:12:53.580The fact that you aren't willing to answer those questions was beyond scandals, quite honestly.
00:12:58.500So, again, she should have resigned immediately.
00:13:02.020This is why we need a completely independent investigation.
00:13:05.160Now, there's certain things that Congress simply can't do.
00:13:07.700I mean, we don't have the assets to do all the forensics.
00:13:09.960We didn't have the people on the ground securing the site.
00:13:12.840But we certainly can interview witnesses, and that's what we must do.
00:13:17.840And so I appreciate the House is active in this.
00:13:21.800Supposedly, the committee that I used to chair, now being chaired by Senator Peters, I'm a ranking member on permanent subcommittee investigation.
00:13:28.980Both those chairmen saying they want a bipartisan investigation, fine.
00:13:33.760What I would be nice to have it not only bipartisan, but bicameral.
00:13:39.040And I would just say to really confirm that I've got excellent investigators.
00:13:46.080Any independent investigation must include my investigatory team.
00:13:50.340These guys have stepped into the fray.
00:13:52.680They've already done some excellent work.
00:13:54.980They need to be part of any independent investigation.
00:13:57.880Senator, have you been following the Heritage Foundation's own independent investigation?
00:14:06.340I know they recently published some findings online that showed that the shooter's phone had pings in Washington, D.C., in Massachusetts, other areas.
00:14:15.520Have you seen or heard anything that show some connections that the shooter may have had to individuals in D.C. or elsewhere?
00:14:24.520Not independently from that standpoint.
00:14:26.380I'm aware of what the Heritage Foundation's reporting.
00:14:29.060The good news here is unlike in 1963 where we had one Zapruder film, and of course we had the Warren Commission basically set up to hide evidence, not seek it, not reveal the truth.
00:14:39.520You know, now we literally have hundreds of witnesses, probably hundreds of Zapruder films and audio recordings.
00:15:12.920That's certainly what I'm dedicated to do.
00:15:16.720Senator, I received a tip about just a few minutes before we went to air here today from a, I'll just say, a source in Pennsylvania.
00:15:25.900I'm from Pennsylvania, pretty well connected there more than just about anywhere else on the planet.
00:15:29.800And regarding this, this man in the gray suit that I know that your office has been tracking, obviously you spoke about this with Arena Barromo on Sunday morning, that they're confirming that this was an ATF, a special agent, a member of the Pittsburgh field office, which jurisdictionally, I guess, falls under the Philadelphia office.
00:15:49.480And the story that I'm being told is that this was an agent who took it upon himself to leave the field office that day when he saw what happened and then drive up to Butler to be able to receive whatever information that he could to begin some preliminary investigation from the ATF side.
00:16:05.820And I wanted to know if that if that concurs or corroborates anything that you and your investigators have found.
00:16:12.780Again, what we found or what we heard from the local law enforcement, you had the Beaver County sniper team, they had secured, well, they were positioned in the AGR building.
00:16:24.240They were the first people to go up on the roof to photograph, you know, see and photograph the dead assassin.
00:16:30.640Then they were joined by members of the Allegheny bomb squad, you know, probably because they saw some detonators up there.
00:16:37.740It was the members of the Allegheny bomb squad that apparently told the Beaver County sniper team to send the photos they'd taken to a 215 number, which happened to be a number of an ATF agent in Pittsburgh.
00:16:52.760Somewhere during that time period, an individual in a suit, I don't know where the gray suit or the color came in, but somebody in a suit came up on top of the roof.
00:17:01.440Those people assumed it was a Secret Service agent, didn't sound like he offered any credentials.
00:17:07.740Now you're telling me it might have been an ATF agent.
00:17:09.840Again, we just don't know, which and it's absurd that we don't know.
00:17:13.740I mean, our our staff contacted the ATF person, that 215 number.
00:17:19.500He said, how do I know your Senate staff?
00:18:45.560Jack Posobiec back live, New York City.
00:18:48.060I'm here with Gavin Wax, the chairman of the New York Young Republican Club, soon to be chairman of the full New York Republican Party.
00:18:55.820But we'll see a couple of days in the future here.
00:18:58.720We are on and honored to have on Senator Ron Johnson.
00:19:02.360His investigators have put together the most thorough public, public-facing and transparent investigation that we have seen to date of this thing.
00:19:12.720We were able to use his findings very graciously, was able to give us a copy of his findings for the Tucker Carlson episode yesterday.
00:19:23.860Walk through people, by the way, to the serious investigators.
00:19:26.480Now, I know from my background as a Navy intelligence officer that, of course, the reports that come in, this is something they need to be vetted.
00:19:35.520This is something the investigators have to do.
00:19:37.640They can't just, you know, run out there with every story they get in.
00:19:40.440Walk me through a little bit of that process of sifting through what you guys have coming in the door.
00:19:44.820And remind us again, for anybody who's watching, if you happen to be at that rally or know someone at that rally, where they can go to contact your office with information.
00:20:23.320We reached out immediately to local and federal law enforcement and people started talking to us.
00:20:29.180And so we memorialize all these things while it's fresh.
00:20:32.800And seeing when I saw how much the federal officials were just not being transparent.
00:20:39.700And, of course, you had in our Senate briefing on Wednesday, both the FBI and the Secret Service director saying, you know, boy, we don't want these conspiracy theories to take hold.
00:20:48.960Well, if you don't want that to happen, tell the American people what you know.
00:20:53.860I think people realize it's incomplete.
00:20:55.820It's, you know, it's very early in the process.
00:20:59.580So I'm hoping people cut us some slack on how incomplete and preliminary our findings were.
00:21:05.400And if information changes, I'll provide it.
00:21:09.100That's one of the reasons I'm saying now that we've had confirmation eyewitness account that there were eight shells.
00:21:14.800You know, maybe that will lay to rest the concerns that there were maybe there's another shooter.
00:21:18.680Again, it's that even that is preliminary, but it's so important to be conducting the investigation now.
00:21:26.680And it's so important to have an independent investigation because, unfortunately, and this is sad, we can't trust the Secret Service and the FBI.
00:21:37.640Look what the FBI did with the Russian collusion hoax.
00:21:41.160They knew that was a dirty trick by the Hillary Clinton campaign.
00:21:44.220They knew that the source of the Steele dossier was somebody they were investigating as a Russian spy.
00:21:50.280And yet they allowed the Mueller committee, the special counsel, to be set up and put America through political turmoil that hasn't ended to this day.
00:21:58.800So, unfortunately, the higher ups of the FBI are, it's corrupt.
00:22:03.120I think the Department of Justice is corrupt.
00:22:05.400I think higher levels of Secret Service is probably corrupt.
00:22:08.540Best isn't to say that the people working on the ground, most of them are heroes.
00:22:14.520OK, look what happened in terms of the detail around President Trump.
00:22:17.420They put their bodies and they protected President Trump.
00:22:59.260Well, I'm not going to dive into that right now.
00:23:01.580But is there anything that Congress could do to really start to, you know, bring some sense of accountability to these runaway bureaucracies?
00:23:08.880Well, we do have the power of the purse, but you need, you know, 60 senators to enforce that.
00:23:14.100You also need your president willing to sign it.
00:23:15.940We do have constitutional authority to do oversight.
00:23:19.780Unfortunately, that oversight authority, Congress has allowed that to atrophy.
00:23:23.460I mean, I'd say the Senate is not particularly serious about investigations.
00:23:27.060I'm the ranking member on the permanent subcommittee investigation.
00:23:30.300We have as strong a subpoena power as any committee in the Senate.
00:24:31.360Now, that has not been done for a very long time.
00:24:34.400Maybe we need to start doing that if people don't cooperate with our constitutionally provided authority.
00:24:43.200Senator, when you talk about potential for full investigations, would you support, do you believe that the resources that you have currently, it sounds like you don't think you have the full resources from the Permit Slight Committee.
00:24:59.480We've heard, by the way, on the House side, they're talking about this, an independent investigatory body to be constituted a commission or a committee to go to look into the attempted assassination attempt on the attempted assassination on President Trump.
00:25:13.660I think Mark Morgan has suggested that, the former head of Customs Border Protection.
00:25:17.900He actually suggested I chair that effort.
00:25:20.020You know, listen, I just want to make sure I'm an integral part of any bipartisan or any bicameral investigation because, again, I've proven my staff's ability to really uncover facts, both the Russian collusion investigation, the Hunter Biden investigation, and now that we are serious individuals, we are serious about obtaining the truth.
00:25:42.480Not on a partisan basis, the truth is what we need to explore, and we need serious people that know how to get the truth.
00:25:50.300Senator Johnson, I know that you've got to run.
00:25:52.120I want to thank you for your yeoman stand, your yeoman's work.
00:25:54.820Please thank your staff for us as well, and please come back the minute that, and we'll certainly be in touch, by the way, even when we're off air, to get the latest breaking, and I hope to have you on soon.
00:26:10.600So, Gavin, what we just heard from the senator, a breakdown, how important that is, not just the fact that we found the eight casings, because I want to marinate on that for a second, but what he's talking about, that the institutions are not responding to congressional oversight.
00:26:24.900This is a senator on the permanent select committee on investigations.
00:26:28.740Yeah, look, it goes to show that, you know, Congress has sort of been sidestepped in favor of this, you know, this behemoth, this, you know, this giant faceless bureaucracy is sidestepping.
00:26:43.460I mean, what we're seeing is kind of just how far our republic has fallen in recent years, that our elected officials, our highest ranking elected officials, senators, chairs of these select committees, these subcommittees, they have basically very limited options when it comes to tackling them.
00:27:00.400Yes, they have the power of subpoena, you know, he referenced, you know, possibly using the sergeant in arms to arrest people who refuse to answer those subpoenas.
00:27:08.520But at the end of the day, it looks like we're in a process right now where they're destroying evidence or they're hiding evidence.
00:27:13.900I mean, Cheadle said yesterday that there were no recorded radio communications from that day.
00:27:20.040I mean, how is that possible unless she's lying or unless they've destroyed it?
00:27:23.200So we really have no idea what's happening.
00:27:31.760But I still feel like we're going up against a machine right now and they're doing their best to protect the machine.
00:27:36.500You know, it's interesting, by the way, and I'll, you know, kind of pull back the curtain a little bit.
00:27:40.760So when when when Tucker and I were going through the timeline and through the senator's report on the show yesterday, that was actually because we sat down beforehand for a couple hours before that interview.
00:27:52.340And I said to Tucker, hey, we've got the report.
00:28:07.140And as the senator saying, so I hope that he and his investigators don't think that we're being critical of them.
00:28:13.760If there's anyone to be critical of, it is the government.
00:28:17.540And this is where I threw down this this this new kind of this new concept, I think, that and, you know, hat tip to the great Scott Adams is that in situations like this, at this point, the government does not have the presumption of innocence.
00:28:33.660The government has the presumption of guilt.
00:28:37.100The burden is on them to prove their innocence in all of these cases.
00:28:42.200And I'm not just talking about this shooting, but I'm talking about every single one of these scandals.
00:28:46.120In addition to, by the way, the fact that we were kept that the condition of the president of the United States was kept completely hidden from the American public for almost a full week.
00:29:59.280And I mentioned this on Tucker as well.
00:30:00.720But if an ATF agent was there in plain clothes who walked up to the crime scene, then that begs the question, how many other federal assets were there in that crowd in plain clothes?
00:30:14.580You mean to tell me that this is the first time that Donald Trump has held a rally that federal agents didn't have plain clothes?
00:30:19.620I'm sure, by the way, that there were plain clothes units in that crowd from the local police.
00:30:23.760I'm sure that the federal agencies had at least some assets in there.
00:30:27.440Why wouldn't you do that, by the way, if you want to maintain basic security?
00:30:32.880And so, Kimberly Cheadle, I know that you've resigned, but don't go too far from D.C., Kim, because your presence will be requested very soon.
00:35:40.060Listen, I think they're burning through their own legitimacy for the sake of power, and I think it's going to cost them.
00:35:44.980I mean, look, there's tons of statistics out there that show that candidates that go through a primary process do better in the general election.
00:35:51.980This is going to come to haunt Kamala.
00:35:54.620Kamala Harris, whatever her name is, it's going to haunt her and her campaign, whoever her VP pick is.
00:36:00.040This sort of rule by diktat, rule by elite backroom decision-making.
00:36:23.300I said, Leviathan has revealed itself.
00:36:26.980What was actually calling the shots in Washington, D.C.?
00:36:30.700Well, I think it's the Obamas, the Clintons, it's the lobbyists, it's the military-industrial complex that control Washington.
00:36:37.200I mean, we're seeing all the same people who have always consolidated the power in Washington, D.C. yet again do it.
00:36:43.260I mean, I heard Alex Jones say last night that Biden technically is going against the deep state now trying to retain his power, and the deep state won again and nominated Kamala Harris.
00:36:52.640I mean, it is the single most undemocratic move in the history of modern politics when nobody who has ran in the primary in Kamala Harris didn't get a single primary vote.
00:37:02.840Jason Palmer got more primary votes and delegate votes than she did in the American Samoa.
00:37:08.380Okay, so we're talking about somebody like a Dean Phillips or Marianne Williamson, and the Democratic Party can always say that they went through a Democratic process.
00:37:16.160They went through a primary technically, but it was the single most divided, one consolidated power in the history of American primaries and party primaries.
00:37:26.940I mean, Donald Trump had a more competitive primary than Joe Biden did in terms of going against these people that are literally ostracized from the Democratic Party for even thinking about bringing up issues like Biden's age, like Biden's visibility, viability.
00:37:41.040And now they've replaced Biden at the very tail end where they have seen his poll numbers tank.
00:37:45.680And that's the only reason that Biden got replaced.
00:37:50.720It's because he can't beat Donald Trump.
00:37:52.480And if we're allowing party nominations at the DNC, at conventions, and delegates to just consolidate power over to another candidate, all because he is losing an election, then what is the point of primaries in general?
00:38:06.440Why couldn't we solely just nominate Donald Trump because he was a former president?
00:38:11.180No, we let him go through the primary process, like democracy, which is what the Democrat Party supposedly stands for, for their January 6th virtue and virtue signaling and gaslighting that they've done over the last three years.
00:38:23.000And now they all of a sudden can just nominate the vice president and nominate somebody who did not go through the primary process as their nominee out of absolutely nowhere.
00:38:33.920We have got to call out their hypocrisy.
00:38:35.420If we want to win the narrative back, we have to realize that the deep state elites still control the Democratic Party, and we can't allow the unit party to win.
00:38:43.680Ironically enough, Biden went through the most deep state battle that probably he's ever been through, considering he's been through the most deep state part of being part of the deep state most of his political career.
00:38:53.120But now we're seeing the deep state truly win and nominating Kamala Harris and going through the absolute most non-anti-democratic primary process and nomination process that we've ever seen in American politics by the nomination of this woman.
00:39:05.840Did it surprise you, Kenny, at the speed at which they, when she went to go and visit that, and by the way, we've got the footage now, this first footage of Joe Biden walking out of the SUV to Air Force One.
00:39:21.940I believe he called us from Air Force One, by the way, earlier here in the show.
00:39:26.160But, Kenny, did it surprise you at all the speed at which the signs around the Biden for America campaign office were removed, thrown out, and replaced immediately with Kamala signs?
00:39:40.060It surprised me a little bit because I thought that they would see Harris as the second most unpopular Democrat within the party.
00:39:46.700Because, I mean, historically, she got 1.5 percent in 2020, didn't even make it to Iowa, even though she was the second highest funding campaign besides Michael Bloomberg eventually in the 2020 primary.
00:39:56.640So I thought they would maybe try to pivot to somebody like Michelle Obama, Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsom.
00:40:01.200But it kind of surprised me in that way.
00:40:02.840But it doesn't surprise me that they went ahead and consolidated behind another candidate because this has always been their plan.
00:40:07.920They wanted to see and wanted to give the test run out there because Biden, ironically enough, they probably thought Biden was the most electable candidate back before the first debate.
00:40:16.060Because their bench was so weak, and Kamala Harris and others are so weak going against Trump or any other Republican that they're polling against.
00:40:22.840But they went ahead and consolidated behind their person.
00:40:25.860The uniparties decided that Kamala Harris was going to be the next Democratic nominee through their fundraisers.
00:40:31.400They went ahead and consolidated all that money to make sure that the money gets transferred over from one donor to the next, one campaign to the next, with an easy transition.
00:40:38.540And now we're seeing a consequence in polling and being reflective of Kamala being the most second.
00:40:45.240Like I said, if there's one unpopular person in the Democratic Party, it was Joe Biden after the first debate.
00:40:51.040But unfortunately, the Democrats are now having to consolidate behind the second most.
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00:42:41.020By the way, Gavin, do you think for a second that there weren't a bunch of cars in that parking lot of the Trump supporters and Butler, PA, that didn't have firearms in them?
00:42:58.760So it's it's I know Carville has the, you know, the pencil tucky, but it's also it's like we call it the T.
00:43:03.700So it's like it goes up to sort of to Erie and then it goes up on the other side, you know, towards towards Pike County, you know, Scranton area.
00:43:11.020And this is why he tries to use Scranton all the time.
00:43:13.440And then it goes through the middle like that.
00:43:14.960That is the hunting, fishing, trapping, camping, outdoors part of Pennsylvania.
00:43:32.760Her family was, you know, we got some special passes to the Butler rally that they were there.
00:43:37.260They visited and they saw that the the insanity that transpired.
00:43:41.680They were 30 feet away from the shots.
00:43:43.760And in fact, the line of fire, the yeah.
00:43:47.140So the they heard the things whizzing.
00:43:49.980And my fiance's uncle wanted to go sit in the bleachers on the side where Corey Comparator ultimately, sadly, tragically it within, you know, could see where he was and had the ability to go sit there because they had the special passes.
00:44:17.120And then obviously we saw the news and, you know, it was like, you know, total communication blackout for hours.
00:44:22.440So we had one of the reasons hours later.
00:44:24.120One of the reasons for that, by the way, is standard operating procedures that you would kill all radio signals just in case.
00:44:31.060Now, I remember saying this live, by the way, like within minutes calling in here on Rav after it happened, I said, well, they would kill radio signals in the on the off chance that he's got some remote controlled explosives.
00:44:42.220Turns out he absolutely had remote control.
00:44:45.340So what happened to that, by the way, because we've heard the story change.
00:45:01.720So if it was the van, he could carry the explosives in the van.
00:45:05.340He carried the bike in the van, leave the van with the explosives, ride the bike and then potentially blow the van as a distraction to get out.
00:45:18.860I can't even say they said this is just some of the reports I've seen and I've read that he planted the weapon on site before they did the site clearance,
00:45:28.760which would even make sense how they wouldn't have caught that.
00:45:31.720And if they and if he didn't have it planted there, you can see there's some kind of bag on that bike.
00:45:36.420Which I mean, it looks like a rifle bag for anyone who's hunted, anyone who's actually when we have Tucker, he had a rifle bag just like that sitting next to the sitting right next to the table in the cabin.
00:45:48.040I mean, that that's what a rifle bag looks like.
00:45:50.080There's, you know, we've got your your telescope carrying my telescope with me to the Trump rally, you know, my rangefinder and my drone.
00:45:57.400I just like at one point at one point, it's like, are we going to hear that?
00:46:01.180Oh, and by the way, he went up to the Secret Service and he asked them if they could give him a ride around the rally so he could see all the the bleachers.
00:47:18.500And I also think they understand they needed to push out Biden now because President Trump saw an electoral surge in the polling post assassination attempt, post convention, post announcing the VP.
00:47:29.240And allowing Biden to be the nominee would just be, you know, it was a guaranteed loss for them.
00:47:35.040So I think they're taking a risk with Kamala, Kamala, whatever her name is.
00:47:38.320They're trying to see, you know, what's what's the worst thing to happen?
00:47:49.220They're the one throwing that out where if you I'm not even going to say it, but if you look up on Urban Dictionary, the coconuts, it's not a very nice thing.