In a break from President Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson is calling for the Department of Justice to release all of its information on Jeffrey Epstein. This is the first time we ve really seen in his second presidency, President Trump facing a reckoning, significant pressure from his core supporters.
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00:07:39.880I think I said, oh, no, I'm kidding, obviously.
00:07:42.840Listen, the reason that I'm like that the Epstein story.
00:07:45.800This idea that people are trying to tie it to President Trump I think is the opposite way to look at it because I think what people are trying to do is actually see where the web goes to the people that we know or, excuse me, don't know that are associated already because President Trump's role in this has been looked into.
00:08:04.660And actually, as far as I can tell, he's the only one who comes out actually smelling pretty good.
00:08:09.780Well, if you remember, what was it, 2015, 2016, when in a public interview, I think it was even on a, maybe not the debate stage, but, you know, that quote where Trump says he's asked about, I think, Bill Clinton or Hillary.
00:08:25.380And he says, well, he's going to have a problem with a little guy named Jeffrey Epstein.
00:08:31.240And, yeah, I mean, Trump was using, you know, the Epstein stuff is a sword against, you know, the Clinton family when he ran for president.
00:08:41.900So, you know, to call it a Democrat hoax.
00:08:43.960Now, look, everyone knows what this is.
00:08:45.840You can't, you know, Trump wants this to go away for a myriad of reasons.
00:08:53.000And, you know, some of them are quite legitimate.
00:08:55.800I have a very different take, I think, on the Epstein situation than most of the folks that I think are covering it in terms of what I think the nature of the intelligence relationship that Epstein had was.
00:09:11.060And I think that, you know, I'm mostly focused on Epstein's role as a financial facilitator for governments and doing so in a covert fashion that would make this driven by intelligence rather than formal diplomatic channels.
00:09:25.840And rather than on the kind of blackmail side of this, which is, I think, what Epstein is more commonly known as in, you know, in mega parlance.
00:09:36.220And so I think that Trump's instincts of saying, well, listen, if we talk about all the different names here, it's going to there's not going to be any context report.
00:09:44.800And they're going to be associated with child sex trafficking when really they didn't do anything wrong.
00:09:52.480The issue is, is the intelligence question is unanswered.
00:09:57.580And I think very deliberately unanswered because of what it would entail to to reveal.
00:10:03.760But I believe that the intelligence side of the equation when it comes to Epstein has primarily to do with Epstein's role as a financial fixer rather than as some sort of sexual blackmailer.
00:10:15.780But I think that the Pan Bonde Justice Department probably does not know where to look for that information around around, you know, covert financing for covert action.
00:10:28.220And so I think a lot of it is getting congested at the DOJ layer mixed with the fact that the national security community, as well as international partners, would not necessarily love that information to be made public.
00:10:43.220And of course, you know, the intelligence community would love someone who would be able to essentially run their slush funds for them for black operations.
00:10:53.480There's even been some reporting recently that Epstein, one of his original clients may have been Adnan Khashoggi, who was directly tied to Iran-Contra.
00:11:03.880And of course, we all know about his son, Jamal Khashoggi.
00:11:08.620And so right there, you're looking at ways for the intel community to be able to reach out, find a node.
00:11:14.760They did this many times in the past with private industry where, you know, reach out and find some famous figure to be able to put something out for them so that it doesn't actually have to be on their books.
00:11:31.380In fact, Iran-Contra was ran the exact way.
00:11:34.180You know, Adnan Khashoggi was the guy who started the Iran-Contra affair.
00:11:38.680He was the reportedly wealthiest man in the world at one point.
00:11:42.860He was the richest arms dealer in world history.
00:11:47.120He made three times more in commissions for Lockheed Martin than every other commissions agent for Lockheed Martin combined, over three times more than every other commissions agent combined.
00:11:59.080He was the CIA's top arms dealer as well as illicit and covert arms dealer for all activity in the Middle East.
00:12:09.100And he was the one, this Saudi billionaire who flew to the White House in 1983 to meet with Robert McFarlane, the national security advisor, to pitch the idea of having U.S. weapons shipped to Israel and then delivered to Iran and then have the proceeds siphoned off to support the Contras, Nicaraguan Contras, to hit two birds with one stone, two illegal activities.
00:12:36.760There was an arms embargo on Iran, so that was illegal.
00:12:40.340And Congress had passed the Boland Amendment banning funds going to the Nicaraguan Contras.
00:12:45.180And so it had to be structured as a covert action.
00:12:47.520This could not be formally done above the light, you know, in the light of day by the Reagan administration.
00:12:53.100So they used basically Saudi and Israeli financiers and weapons dealers in order to knock out two birds with one stone.
00:13:05.980And as you mentioned, in Epstein's own words, he said in 1987 that Adnan Khashoggi was one of his personal clients.
00:13:28.520Bill Barr started his career in the CIA.
00:13:31.480He worked there for six years during Iran-Contra.
00:13:37.120Bill Barr's father also worked for the CIA and, you know, basically had hired Jeffrey Epstein to the Dalton School while Donald Barr was headmaster there.
00:13:47.140And then Bill Barr was the cover-up, according to the New York Times, you know, ran a headline calling Bill Barr the, quote, cover-up general of Iran-Contra because he was the one who blocked access to CIA records when there was an investigation into that covert action.
00:14:06.600And then, you know, basically orchestrated the, you know, the pardons and cover-ups into that very affair that Jeffrey Epstein's whole network ran through, including Jeffrey Epstein himself.
00:14:18.160A lot of this has to do with the fact that there was an, that in the late 1970s, when Iran, when the Iranian Revolution happened and the government that had been backed by both the U.S., Israelis and Brits within Iran,
00:14:32.980when that government was toppled in Iran, combined with Jimmy Carter severing the capacities of the CIA, the, from, from 1979 through the 1980s, an offshore, private, self-sustained, stand-alone, covert financing operation network had to be tapped into in order to run operations that the CIA was getting in trouble for directly facilitating.
00:14:58.080So they began to use these outside facilitators.
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00:16:58.560We've got a couple of minutes left in this segment and go all the way through and talk about, look, there's this idea that a lot of us called for when we were down in Tampa.
00:17:09.680And a lot of us are pushing for a special prosecutor.
00:17:12.660President Trump has said twice yesterday, and once he mentioned it even again today, we're told that he also said it as well in this pre-taped interview.
00:17:22.600It airs on Real America's Voice later tonight, 6 p.m., and I hope everyone is tuning in.
00:17:27.720I know I certainly will be, to that, where he's calling for a special prosecutor and says, if there is legitimate information out there, let's release it.
00:17:36.220So, Benz, I say we take that ball and run with it.
00:17:40.120You know, we're talking about the criminal charges, but also you're talking about these financial operations that he was involved in, all of this information as well.
00:17:51.620So you could do it through a special prosecutor.
00:17:54.020You could do it through a transparency working group.
00:17:56.260Ed Martin, for example, is now running this weaponization task force within DOJ.
00:18:01.320I think that that would also be an appropriate place to spearhead an investigation.
00:18:05.920I think when you start looking into the Epstein story, what you see is a very, very technical, detail-laden story that laces its way through U.S. foreign policy, through Middle East foreign policy, through Western ally foreign policy, through North African country foreign policy.
00:18:29.520I don't think Pam Bondi is, you know, with her, given all the other responsibilities that she has as the head of the U.S. Justice Department, is the person who, you know, is or should be the keeper of all, you know, I don't think she needs to be personally spearheading this sort of thing.
00:18:51.160I don't think that, you know, she necessarily has the background experience or know-how in this particular thing.
00:18:59.720What you need is somebody within DOJ who will be tasked with what to ask for, who will spend their time on this and the details of the case.
00:19:09.360And what you need from Pam Bondi is basically the muscle applied in order to green light and make sure that documents are delivered to the task force or special prosecutor from the relevant agencies.
00:19:22.260And so this is why I stress that Pam Bondi, as attorney general, has an office that reports directly to her.
00:19:29.920It's called OPR, the Office of Professional Responsibility.
00:19:32.820In November 2020, two weeks after Trump lost the 2020 election, but while Bill Barr was still running the Justice Department, an investigation that had taken, I think, something like, it was from February 2019 to November 2020.
00:19:53.720So this is like, you know, a 21-month investigation that OPR led into the plea deal cut for Epstein and investigated Alex Acosta and his statements that Epstein, quote, belonged to intelligence and whether that played a factor into the plea deal.
00:20:10.220Now, you're talking about a huge, sweeping, enormously lengthy investigation by the Justice Department OPR into this exact question.
00:20:20.280Now, all we got in the 348-page report that Justice Department released, but then weirdly deleted from its website, even though you can find it through other channels.
00:20:33.240In that 348-page report, there is a very limited hangout question which is asked.
00:21:23.180They didn't work for the agency, but they worked with the agency to broker international deals that the State Department did not want to be seen as directly brokering.
00:21:32.260And so you need to know what to look for.
00:21:36.020So first of all, we need to see exactly what Acosta was asked and exactly what Acosta answered.
00:21:41.300That way we know if the Justice Department has ever really looked into this before.
00:21:45.940We also need, because OPR reports directly to Bill Barr and his then-deputy Jeffrey Rosen, who has his own strange history with Trump world,
00:21:53.380We need to know if the Attorney General's office before Pam Bondi attempted to shape the inquiries into Epstein's intelligence ties.
00:22:02.020Given that Bill Barr was the mop-up man for the Iran-Contra scandal for the CIA, which directly involved Epstein's networks,
00:22:10.000you can immediately see why Bill Barr would want to shape the OPR investigation to ward off any attempt to ask the relevant questions.
00:22:17.520We also need all the email traffic around the 2020 OPR investigation from the CIA's Office of General Counsel,
00:22:25.320which is parked at the Justice Department in order to make sure that sensitive or classified information is disclosed in a way that does not reveal U.S. national secrets
00:22:37.140and is basically the cover-up arm of the CIA.
00:22:40.220We need to know if CIA OGR, the Office of General Counsel, CIA OGC, shaped that OPR investigation.
00:22:48.020We need the transcript of what they actually asked about Epstein's intelligence ties and what Acosta actually answered.
00:22:54.640And we need all the relevant files, records, emails, communications, tax messages from around Bill Barr, Jeffrey Rosen, and the OPR team to shape that inquiry.
00:24:17.340He's had the great Mike Benz on, and I think he's right.
00:24:21.320I think he's absolutely right on this question of a special prosecutor.
00:24:25.620I also think that he's got options on specifically things that the DOJ can do right now, today, to be able to get into this.
00:24:37.440And really, really, this is something that I just have to say it's absolutely blown up in terms of our comments.
00:24:43.800I'm looking at hundreds and hundreds of comments that are coming in right now regarding this, you know, people asking, people saying, you know, this is the one scandal that could unite the left and the right.
00:24:59.560Epstein is dead, but the web he operated within is very much alive.
00:25:03.360And while many are only now awakening to the scale and depth of the network, it is clear that we are dealing with this not a partisan issue.
00:25:50.340This is about getting accountability for something that goes all the way back to the very beginning, the very origins of the MAGA movement.
00:26:01.440This idea that our government is corrupt and has been working against us for other special interests.
00:26:09.420And in this case, perhaps nefarious interests that the intelligence agencies and the intelligence community has gone far abroad of their remit, far abroad of whatever they were set up for in the first place.
00:26:23.880And for folks trying to make sense of American foreign policy and, yes, even domestic policy choices over the last 30 plus years, this is an example.
00:26:43.720It's an example of something that's come in.
00:26:46.400Here's a message from John in Virginia.
00:26:50.960For the life of me, I can't understand why President Trump is taking the approach he has towards the supporters for demanding full transparency about the Epstein file.
00:26:58.080He's offended many who have expressed they no longer support him.
00:27:01.460This will not be good for the 2026 midterms.
00:27:03.660Many have said they will just not vote.
00:27:05.180If this is a hoax, President Trump is, if this is the hoax, President Trump is claiming his attitude is spending political capital.
00:27:13.860And that's just an email we got in at 1776 at humanevents.com.
00:27:17.580But that really is following the tenor of most of the emails that I'm seeing here.
00:27:22.580It can really sum that up where people are saying, wait a minute, you know, we were the ones who were brought in.
00:27:28.080We were the ones who were asked about this.
00:27:30.180By the way, and I'll, you know, I've reiterated this a number of times, but I was brought to the White House for a meeting.
00:27:39.220And nobody said anything about Jeffrey Epstein to me until the Attorney General came in.
00:27:43.860So, you know, this is where this all stems from.
00:27:46.980This isn't stemming from some pent-up outrage.
00:27:51.240You know, we were the ones who were brought in.
00:27:55.200And, yeah, I'm just reading comment after comment after comment on this.
00:27:59.280And, of course, you know, this is, there's a lot of Trisand effect, I think, going on right here as well, where people are saying, you know, we want more.
00:28:34.220And look at where we were 10 years ago versus where we are now.
00:28:39.520And it's just been an absolute sea change since President Trump came down from that escalator to where we are now.
00:28:47.440And I'm also very honored, by the way, to be able to say that as we continue this, the main quest, the main quest fight against illegal aliens, illegal immigration.
00:28:59.100I've always said that is the main quest, the main plot that we have here on the program.
00:29:03.880Once again, Tricia McLaughlin, the Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, joining us.
00:29:20.200Well, yeah, it was nice being able to see you briefly while we were there at Turning Point in the Student Action Summit.
00:29:27.060Secretary Noem's great speech and the great I think it was a real personal touch from her, you know, really coming in and praying for the safety of federal law enforcement and really all law enforcement officers, because even in the days since that speech or perhaps I'm guessing you guys probably knew more about this than was public at the time,
00:29:49.420that we've seen more and more doxing, more and more targeted attacks on actual ICE employees regarding the situation at the California marijuana facility.
00:30:04.840Right now, our ICE law enforcement are facing an 830 percent increase in assaults against them.
00:30:11.460We're seeing that they're being shot at.
00:30:13.520We saw that with that marijuana facility, which, as I know your listeners are likely aware, that's where we located 14 children, including 10 of which were unaccompanied, likely being exploited, trafficked, potentially slave or forced labor, just horrendous there.
00:30:32.080But our law enforcement, they're the ones who rescued these innocent children.
00:30:36.920And yet you have Gavin Newsom, AOC, Tim Walz, Mayor Wu out of Boston, you name it, a Democrat du jour who is likening ICE to the Gestapo and encouraging threats and assaults against them.
00:30:50.780And so, you know, if you see a law enforcement officer, whether it be ICE or CBP or otherwise, thank them for their service because they are being targeted, their families are being doxed.
00:31:01.200And we pray for their safety, but we're also working to make sure we prosecute to the full extent of the law those who do try to do harm to our law enforcement.
00:31:09.980Now, if I can zoom in a little bit specifically on that case regarding the individual who was shooting at the ICE agents there in California, are there any updates on this identification apprehension?
00:31:25.680I know there's been some other apprehensions recently, but has that one actually come down yet?
00:31:30.080This one in particular, we have a $50,000 bounty on this guy's head by the FBI.
00:31:37.320Our Homeland Security investigators are working hand in glove with the FBI to find this depraved individual.
00:31:46.300We will find him, but I won't get ahead of any announcements out of the FBI on this one, Jack.
00:31:53.960When it comes to these raids, you know, I have to look at these images and having focused on, you know, Antifa and left-wing agitprop groups in the past, when I see that many people showing up in order to try to obstruct one of these raids, it seems to me as though some information, those people don't just materialize in the middle of nowhere, all the way out on some farm all by themselves.
00:32:20.320That takes planning, that takes coordination, that takes organization.
00:32:24.260So it seems to me as though, is there a worry that somehow information about these raids is leaking before they take place?
00:32:32.920Yeah, that's something that we're highly focused on, and we have seen in the past that leaked information gets out there, it gets to activist media, or it gets to these kinds of activists themselves.
00:32:46.660We saw, you know, in Prairieland in Texas, that there was a group of 12 individuals who were wearing tactical gear, carrying rifles, and then went on to attack law enforcement.
00:33:00.920What we're seeing are these highly coordinated attacks across the country, and Jack, I do think that there is a, you brought up Antifa and these very sophisticated organization coordination of attacks.
00:33:14.200But I think the, you know, the mainstream problem of this, which is so disturbing, is that we have Democrat politicians who are trying to normalize violence against our law enforcement.
00:33:25.480They totally ignore the fact that our law enforcement's being doxxed, that their family members are being targeted, that it's being put online where their spouses work, where their children go to school.
00:33:36.180And this is in the face of them going after and trying to arrest highly sophisticated gang members like MS-13 or Trendy Aragua, terrorist organizations.
00:33:46.060And these Democrat politicians are just handing on a silver platter intelligence to these vicious, violent gangs.
00:33:53.700And so when we see all of this, unfortunately, it's something where I've warned for quite some time that the violent rhetoric is getting worse.
00:34:06.860Shouldn't this be something, though, that the Democrats, you know, certainly they may not agree with the policies, certainly they may not agree with the politics, but you'd think on the question of violence, that would be something that they could all stand against, right?
00:34:18.020Absolutely. No, absolutely. Jack, I'm very concerned that someone's going to get killed, that this doesn't stop.
00:34:27.200We were, I remember at the start of this administration, probably two months in, we were seeing a 400 percent increase against our law enforcement.
00:34:35.520And now we're at 830 percent increase. When does this stop?
00:34:40.040When do the likes of Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass and Tim Walls and AOC start to condemn this? Is it going to take a death to do that?
00:34:50.060And that's what's so disturbing is there are just a hellbent on the demonization and attacks.
00:34:56.740And, you know, we didn't hear anything from Gavin Newsom after he lied about our enforcement operation, what he called a strawberry farm, which it wasn't.
00:35:05.540And it was two marijuana facilities. And when the information came out about these 361 illegal aliens, that among them that were arrested were convicted rapists, convicted child molesters, drug traffickers, horrendous people who were working among children.
00:35:24.480How is that not? That goes way beyond partisan politics. And it's just about basic humanity.
00:35:30.220When it comes down to it, this really is about the victims in many of these cases.
00:35:37.280And I know it's something obviously Tom Homan has spoken about quite a bit when you do have these child migrants who have been, you know, even even labor traffic or or worse.
00:35:49.420It's something that he's talked about a number of times, because in many of these cases, when they come, they're so young.
00:35:54.240They have no idea what's going on. And then they get wrapped up in organizations like this.
00:35:59.580And and I do think that it's something where the media and the Democrats have been trying to paint it as, you know, ICE is some kind of they use this very heated rhetoric describing ICE agents.
00:36:09.220But what they're actually doing is not only liberating the child victims, but also anyone who lives in one of these areas.
00:36:16.300That's unfortunately being affected by MS-13 or one of these other groups.
00:36:19.680Oh, exactly. These are not you would not want these criminals to be your neighbors.
00:36:26.600And Jack, I think you hit the nail on the head. I think one of the greatest untold stories of the Biden administration and the humanitarian crisis that they manufactured at our southern border are those 300,000 plus children who were lost in the system.
00:36:42.880So many of them, so many of them exploited, so many of them sex trafficked, so many of them labor trafficked.
00:36:48.340And the administration now, their efforts to reunite those and put them in safe hands.
00:36:54.680And so far, about 10,000 children have been located.
00:36:59.020But, you know, the incompetence and the lack of organization really imperiled these children.
00:37:06.860And it's been an uphill battle to try and reunite them.
00:37:10.520But Secretary Nome and President Trump, they are, you know, very laser focused on this.
00:37:17.180Now, one question that I get a lot in from my listeners, you know, we talked about the big, beautiful bill.
00:37:23.580We talked about the big increase in the ICE budget.
00:37:27.220Just in the last couple of minutes that we have you, can you tell us a little bit about how that new, you know, much bigger budget is going to be put to use?
00:37:34.700Yes, this has been incredible for the Department of Homeland Security and our ability to really turbocharge arrest numbers.
00:37:43.900Detention bed space has been a linchpin operationally to allow us to arrest and detain and eventually deport more illegal aliens.
00:37:54.340And the fact of the matter is that this money from the big, beautiful bill is going to double our detention bed space so we can really put the numbers up as well.
00:38:03.180I mentioned before, you know, the perils that our law enforcement is facing.
00:38:08.760This is going to give them potential bonuses for our Border Patrol and ICE agents.
00:38:13.740As well, we're going to be increasing our ICE enforcement officer workforce by about 50 percent.
00:38:19.720So much more guys and gals on the ground to help with those arrests.
00:38:24.360And then, I mean, think about things like the border wall.
00:38:27.300It's going to help us get hundreds, if not thousands more mileage of border wall, as well as technology surveillance vehicles that we need to make sure we're keeping these numbers at the southern border at a historic low.
00:38:42.440And having that full operational control.
00:38:45.600Trisha McLaughlin, where can people go to follow you and get all updates from DHS?
00:38:50.280Yes, absolutely. Follow me at Trisha, excuse me, at TrishaOhio on X and at DHSGov.
00:38:58.980Give us a follow. We debunk the fake news media all the time.
00:39:03.860And we're just bringing facts to the American people.
00:39:51.540I know it's a little earlier than you're used to getting your John Solomon.
00:39:55.200It will be live and full at 6 p.m., but he's here joining us for a special preview of his exclusive interview with President Trump, which was conducted this morning.
00:40:06.160So this is before the Oval Office gaggle, which he held there.
00:40:11.480John Solomon of Just the News joins us now.
00:40:28.840But the fact that Kash Patel had opened a conspiracy case treating the last decade of weaponization as an ongoing conspiracy, from clearing Hillary, pursuing Trump and Russiagate, trying to protect Hunter Biden, doing the Ukraine impeachment, protecting Biden from the Chinese plot to help him win the 2020 election.
00:40:52.780Oh, we better get a camera case on Donald Trump to negate that.
00:40:55.900Looking at that as one ongoing conspiracy, which has a lot of benefits.
00:40:59.340You can go back and charge old crimes in an ongoing conspiracy.
00:41:02.720You can also take this case and move it out of Washington, D.C. and bring it to Florida, because one of the overt acts of the conspiracy would have been raiding Donald Trump's house.
00:41:12.160The president didn't know about that because the FBI doesn't normally brief a president on things.
00:41:15.200But when we broke that story, the president heard about it, learned about it, and he said, hey, I like the idea.
00:41:20.700I think it's a good way of looking at what happened, and maybe we finally get some accountability because we don't get any.
00:41:25.900And then, without any prompting, without me even asking yet, he says, I also think if that has a special prosecutor, that prosecutor should just look at anything credible about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:41:47.100They release what they can about it, and they tell the American people whatever the grand jury can squeeze out of it.
00:41:52.240Now, I've done tons of reporting on Epstein.
00:41:54.820The Wall Street Journal and I have probably been the most prolific of doing this going back to 1817.
00:41:59.660Miami Herald did some great work, too.
00:42:01.060I think people are going to be disappointed what's in the government files, not because there probably wasn't good stuff to be had, but because the government did a crappy job investigating this.
00:42:12.060The Bush Justice Department in 07 and 08 could have gotten Jeffrey Epstein and made one of the largest scandals in American history.
00:42:19.380They gave him a pass, and they did it in the most cowardly ways.
00:42:24.120They took a pass, and they didn't take the time to go get the sort of things that would have been explosive evidence, like a ledger or an accounting of what happened.
00:42:34.900And so Trump finally starts pursuing in 19.
00:42:38.180The FBI says Epstein kills himself in the jail.
00:42:41.440I think even when a special prosecutor gets into it, the government did such a poor job on this.
00:42:46.360We're all going to be a little disappointed.
00:42:47.960That said, the fact that the president is willing to let a special prosecutor look at this tells you that he wants the base, he wants all of America to have confidence in the final findings.
00:42:58.520And I think that this is a big moment, a big announcement for President Trump.
00:43:26.840So, John, I want to just get this straight for everyone.
00:43:29.840So, President Trump, he's talking about this special prosecutor, which, of course, he references earlier in the Oval Office as well as yesterday.
00:43:37.980He was on a couple of these tarmac gaggles where he says that's for the prosecutor to do.
00:43:43.780And that's what you said was going on War Room.
00:43:45.720So that's in reference to a special prosecutor.
00:43:48.140Now, it's possible that this special prosecutor could also be looking at all of these in conjunction with this broader conspiracy.
00:43:55.140So would all of this fit into a scope memo for that prosecutor?
00:43:59.180Of course, this goes back to what we remember from Special Counsel Mueller and the scope memo all the way back in 2017, 2018 regarding his special investigation.
00:44:19.640As part of that, what the president is saying, expand the scope and let Epstein be part of this, too.
00:44:24.680And let's give the American people confidence, independence.
00:44:27.240Let's get a good person there and let's do that.
00:44:29.660So the predicated case is already open.
00:44:32.520That's something that was news that broke on Monday.
00:44:34.920You snap in Jeffrey Epstein and you let an independent person, you get this out of Pam Bondi's hand where there were several false starts and mistakes made and you let everybody go.
00:44:43.720And I think there are two places we haven't been looking at.
00:44:46.320The FBI's documents are all in Pam Bondi's hands.
00:44:49.740There are two places that haven't been tapped.
00:44:52.200One is the sealed grand jury proceedings in New York.
00:44:55.920That is not something Pam Bondi on her own can release, but she should make the request to the judge and say, judge, we believe it's in the public interest.