Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Death of Legacy Polling and the Rise of the People’s Pundit

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00:00:51.120 Russian and American negotiators meeting for a new round of peace talks in Saudi Arabia

00:00:55.920 aimed at ending the war in Ukraine.

00:00:57.940 Both sides are now hammering out details on the technical level, with the White House still

00:01:02.760 insisting Russian President Vladimir Putin is looking for a deal to stop the fighting.

00:01:07.640 President Donald Trump taking on countries for buying oil from Venezuela.

00:01:11.700 He is promising a 25% tariff on all imports for any country making purchases, along with

00:01:18.120 new tariffs on Venezuela itself starting next week.

00:01:21.400 I think Greenland's going to be something that maybe is in our future.

00:01:24.400 President Trump is doubling down on his suggestion that the U.S. will play a larger role in the

00:01:29.640 island's future.

00:01:30.460 Vice President J.D. Vance's wife, Usha, is scheduled to visit the Danish territory Thursday,

00:01:35.860 along with White House National Security Advisor Mike Waltz and Energy Secretary Chris Wright.

00:01:41.100 Vance is set to attend a dog sled race while Waltz tours a U.S. military base.

00:01:46.000 Since President Donald Trump took office, new approval ratings from online polling and analytics

00:01:50.220 company Civic show 45% of Americans approve of the president's job performance, compared

00:01:54.720 to 53% that do not.

00:01:56.280 USA Today reports that Trump's approval ratings have not shown a major shift from the beginning

00:02:00.040 of his term or compared with his first term.

00:02:02.220 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:02:07.640 Today is March 25th, 2025.

00:02:10.480 Anno Domine.

00:02:12.100 Signal Gate.

00:02:13.400 Signal Gate is the talk of the town.

00:02:16.200 After we wrapped the show yesterday, I heard about this.

00:02:19.400 My phone started blowing up.

00:02:20.940 No, it wasn't Jeff Goldberg calling me.

00:02:24.300 In fact, I don't even have his phone number in my phone.

00:02:27.720 And I checked, I checked, I've never had his number in my phone at all.

00:02:34.500 So people were looking at this.

00:02:36.040 People are saying, how could the administration do this?

00:02:39.180 How could this be set up the way that it is?

00:02:41.520 How could this guy get added to a chat with the highest level principles going after this,

00:02:47.520 discussing issues of state, issues of warfare, obviously planned before the strikes took place,

00:02:54.520 even though I think people knew the strikes were going to take place.

00:02:57.380 They were ongoing.

00:02:58.700 So I think that's part of it.

00:02:59.900 Look, at the end of the day, it's simple as this.

00:03:03.340 Adding a reporter like that to a chat like this, it's an on-starter.

00:03:08.380 It's an absolute on-starter.

00:03:11.180 That's period, full stop.

00:03:12.960 There's no question about it.

00:03:14.140 Look, if we're going to be the people who went after Hillary's emails,

00:03:17.940 we also have to be honest about this.

00:03:21.120 That level of being able to have compromise, allowing compromise, it's a non-starter.

00:03:27.660 It's just a non-starter.

00:03:29.360 That said, I see people going after Vice President J.D. Vance on all of this,

00:03:34.080 and I'm looking at it saying, oh, J.D. Vance, you know, Mark Deeson,

00:03:37.900 what was he saying, this neocot, you know, oh, how dare J.D. Vance have a difference of opinion

00:03:43.160 on the Houthis?

00:03:43.880 And it's like, I read his opinion.

00:03:45.200 I thought it was well thought out.

00:03:47.800 I thought it was analytic.

00:03:49.180 I think he was trying to weigh strategy.

00:03:50.840 I think he was trying to weigh messaging.

00:03:52.300 I think he was trying to understand overall commander's desire to end state.

00:03:56.320 And he was weighing it against other things that President Trump had said,

00:04:00.600 but also saying that he wanted to be able to serve the president in the best way possible

00:04:06.460 and make sure the overall mission was served as long as he would publicly back him.

00:04:12.180 That's exactly what the job of the vice president is.

00:04:16.240 That's what Mike Pence never understood.

00:04:19.400 Your role is supposed to be subordinate and supportive to the president,

00:04:24.300 meaning when you have an idea or when you have a potential difference of opinion on a certain action,

00:04:31.240 you present that to the president in a constructive manner.

00:04:35.780 Or an example is like what we see right here.

00:04:38.680 It's a fascinating discussion between principles to understand how these affairs are taking place.

00:04:47.140 I love the idea of Europe having to pay for this, having to give economic concessions,

00:04:52.300 because most of the trade going through the Red Sea affects Europe far more than the United States.

00:04:56.680 Of course, we talk about the Red Sea here on this program pretty much every day.

00:05:00.820 And so the people attacking J.D. Vance are completely out to left field.

00:05:06.560 They're out to lunch on this.

00:05:08.080 But again, as I say, adding a reporter like that, a non-starter, biggest question of all,

00:05:13.180 why don't we have secure apps in the government?

00:05:17.300 Maybe Doge can come in and fix something to actually allow for this level of communication

00:05:22.120 that it doesn't need to be on civilian.

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00:07:55.600 So it's been a minute since we've had this next guest on the program here on Human Events

00:08:01.000 Daily.

00:08:01.680 And some schedule issues.

00:08:03.040 He's got some new time slots.

00:08:04.540 We've got some new time stuff going on.

00:08:06.300 We figured out a way to make it happen.

00:08:09.580 I'm on the road, so it actually works out.

00:08:11.780 Ladies and gentlemen, returning to Sherman Events Daily, triumphantly, to the People's

00:08:17.960 Fundant, Richard Flores.

00:08:19.920 What's going on, Rich?

00:08:21.660 Hey, Jack.

00:08:22.380 It's good to be back, brother.

00:08:23.600 How you been?

00:08:24.140 The drum roll is going.

00:08:25.220 The audience is cheering.

00:08:26.940 Finally!

00:08:28.600 The People's Fundant has returned!

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00:08:32.620 Rich, what's amazing to me, and I've got to get you on about this, because you look

00:08:39.140 what's going on to the polling industry right now, and in the last couple of weeks since

00:08:45.360 the election, it's, you're seeing, it's like, Rich, all the people that you targeted,

00:08:52.840 the Monmouth Poll, Rich, the Monmouth Poll has closed their doors, and Seltzer has retired.

00:08:59.980 538 has been shut down.

00:09:02.160 Now, these are all the people, all the people that we were told, they were the gold standard.

00:09:06.500 Remember, all the eggheads were telling me, these are the gold standard.

00:09:09.200 Oh, that's the Honmouth Poll.

00:09:10.140 You've got to trust them, and Seltzer has hit the gold standard.

00:09:12.800 That's the gold standard, and people are like, did we miss something?

00:09:15.400 Did we miss a big Kamala vote?

00:09:16.800 Did we miss a big abortion army vote?

00:09:18.600 Going through, and 538 was the model.

00:09:21.480 If he was the one guy who was the one guy all through 2024, especially through the fall, 0.97

00:09:26.880 that was just like, they're liars! 0.99

00:09:29.100 They're liars! 1.00

00:09:30.100 They're all lying! 1.00

00:09:31.720 They're all playing games!

00:09:33.180 And it was Rich Barris, the one guy who was slimed, who was smeared, who was attacked,

00:09:38.400 who they went after day after day after day.

00:09:41.380 And I've got to just say, wait a minute, how come all of you guys don't have jobs anymore,

00:09:46.200 Donald Trump is in office, and Rich Barris, the people's pundit, is still standing tall.

00:09:52.080 Rich Barris, take a victory lap, man.

00:09:53.900 You've earned it.

00:09:54.480 Couldn't have happened to worse people.

00:09:57.360 I have absolutely no sympathy for them whatsoever, and I like to consider myself a pretty good

00:10:03.540 Christian Jack, or at least I try. 0.74

00:10:05.220 We all try.

00:10:05.880 We're all imperfect people.

00:10:07.180 But they deserve this.

00:10:09.080 They 100% deserve this.

00:10:11.180 You know, in 2016, when we were going through something as an industry, it was a little bit

00:10:15.220 tough to navigate, but those of us who used new collection methods and tried to understand

00:10:20.980 why people didn't answer polls anymore, the difficulties of it, and the differences in

00:10:25.380 people and who they are, and, you know, why does one want to be interviewed so much more

00:10:29.160 than the other?

00:10:30.100 We did okay, but it was only a few of us.

00:10:32.520 In 2020, COVID came, and it was difficult because everybody was home.

00:10:36.000 You had all of these Zoomers and professional class people signing up, especially for online 1.00

00:10:40.380 panels, and they're sitting there clicking how they hate Donald Trump all day.

00:10:43.460 So it was a little bit difficult, and I understood some of that, some of that.

00:10:47.860 But 2024 was not hard.

00:10:50.340 If you had a response bias so bad that you had Kamala Harris ahead in Iowa, then you should

00:10:55.800 not be a public pollster.

00:10:57.020 You shouldn't be a pollster at all for anyone.

00:10:59.080 If you thought in any way, shape, or form that after the debate there was a bump for Kamala 0.67

00:11:04.180 Harris and she was, you know, suddenly ahead and had the edge in this election, you should 0.89

00:11:10.160 not be a pollster.

00:11:11.040 The truth is public opinion does not move like this.

00:11:14.300 It doesn't move as dramatically as these pollsters suggest, and that is narrative polling.

00:11:20.800 And now we know, by the way, I mean, with some of the government funding we've seen, Jack,

00:11:25.160 we know that some of these people are funded by incredibly odd, just odd, you know, sources.

00:11:33.020 And I would never do something like that or get myself involved, especially not my public

00:11:39.020 work, you know, with an arrangement that they have in some of these polling outfits.

00:11:45.160 And the bottom line is, I mean, if we ever thought that there were some methodological

00:11:50.180 issues and people needed to fix them, that's all.

00:11:53.580 I mean, we can throw that out the window.

00:11:55.120 2020 was easy.

00:11:56.060 It was a fairly easy election to poll.

00:11:58.860 Donald Trump was always going to win this election.

00:12:01.240 And anyone who found otherwise was either lying intentionally, bad at their job, or just 0.99

00:12:06.160 hedging because they're a coward.

00:12:08.200 Well, Rich, I want to hear, and you're right, I think 2024 never, I think it never fundamentally 0.52

00:12:13.680 changed.

00:12:14.960 I think people saying that Biden would have won.

00:12:18.940 Even Biden, by the way, has said that he would have won if he had stayed in.

00:12:22.060 It's just not true.

00:12:22.640 It's completely not true.

00:12:24.200 So even he has fallen for these lies.

00:12:27.740 I want you to walk through a phrase that you just mentioned, a concept, narrative polling.

00:12:32.540 I think I know what you mean, but unpack that for our audience.

00:12:35.880 Look, Ann Seltzer held a poll for a ballpark a month that showed that Donald Trump was nearly

00:12:43.400 20 points ahead of Joe Biden in the state of Iowa.

00:12:46.620 They never released it.

00:12:47.900 I knew that poll existed.

00:12:49.260 I told your viewers on that show it existed.

00:12:51.360 I told Charlie Kirk it existed with you as a co-host on that show.

00:12:56.060 And then we found out when they pulled, or were trying to pull, the switcheroo on Joe

00:13:02.180 Biden after the debate, that they used it in a story for a narrative that, look, Biden

00:13:08.580 was down nearly 20 points last month, but Kamala's much closer.

00:13:12.840 That's narrative polling.

00:13:14.040 They held that for a story.

00:13:16.320 And oh, by the way, Kamala Harris was never close in Iowa to Donald Trump.

00:13:20.360 In fact, Kamala Harris ran behind Joe Biden in most of the Great Lakes and the Midwest

00:13:26.660 states throughout our entire cycle's polling.

00:13:31.480 So it didn't mean Joe Biden was going to win.

00:13:33.860 It just meant the coalition looked a little bit different.

00:13:36.420 And I tried telling this to people.

00:13:38.060 Who is going to do better in Bidentown, Pennsylvania?

00:13:40.780 Joe Biden, who's Scranton Joe Biden, or Canadian Kamala Harris?

00:13:45.760 Who do you think is going to perform better in northeastern Pennsylvania?

00:13:49.420 It's a no-brainer.

00:13:50.460 I cannot even believe we're having these conversations.

00:13:52.900 In the Plain states and in the farmer areas of Iowa, Joe Biden is more like than her.

00:14:00.380 He was still going to lose, but he's more like than her.

00:14:03.200 So that's for a narrative.

00:14:04.920 She held that poll. 0.98

00:14:06.280 So the Democratic Party could later tell a story.

00:14:09.620 That's what she was doing.

00:14:10.740 And I'm telling you, that's unacceptable behavior.

00:14:14.720 She was paraded around as if she was the gold standard.

00:14:18.060 She was not.

00:14:19.580 By the way, John Kerry didn't win Iowa either.

00:14:22.260 She predicted and her poll suggested he would in a very comfortable margin.

00:14:26.840 He lost the state of Iowa to George W. Bush.

00:14:29.700 So all of this was just always bogus.

00:14:31.940 I mean, it was just completely bogus push because when certain polls drop, they want people

00:14:36.920 to believe them more, and those polls are used to set a narrative, and it's sad, and I used

00:14:43.080 to give people the benefit of the doubt, but after this election, there is no more benefit

00:14:46.560 to give.

00:14:47.380 It's over, Jack.

00:14:48.340 There's no more benefit to give.

00:14:49.300 And I saw people at the time were trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and saying,

00:14:56.420 oh, she's really good, and maybe there was a methodology issue, et cetera, and I'm just

00:15:01.020 I'm sorry, you know, because, and I saw people asking her, she did this sort of like, she

00:15:06.180 opened Q&A on YouTube talking about the methodology, and she just kept writing them off over and

00:15:11.220 over, and I'm sorry.

00:15:12.360 This was done for narrative.

00:15:13.840 This was not done.

00:15:15.100 Your accuracy.

00:15:15.920 We're coming back, Human Events Daily, the postmortem on the 2024 polling with Richard

00:15:21.600 Barris.

00:15:21.980 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.

00:15:31.280 These are influencers, and they're friends of mine, Jack Pesovic.

00:15:37.020 Where's Jack?

00:15:37.980 Jack.

00:15:39.120 He's done a great job.

00:15:41.980 All right, Jack Pesovic, we're back.

00:15:43.400 Human Events Daily.

00:15:44.760 Now, Rich, you know, we talked about it until during the last segment, but I got to get you

00:15:49.440 in, man.

00:15:50.340 The Monmouth Poll.

00:15:51.220 I know, Rich, this is your favorite poll.

00:15:54.380 These guys were your besties.

00:15:56.140 I know that you guys had this wonderful relationship.

00:15:58.700 You used to come on here all during 2024 and talk about how much you loved the Monmouth

00:16:03.260 Poll.

00:16:03.620 You just, you just, you'd sit up the night before the Monmouth Poll would come out.

00:16:07.060 You'd get so excited, you know, like, like, like a little kid on Christmas Eve waiting

00:16:11.000 for the Monmouth Poll to drop.

00:16:13.040 Yeah, no, that's not like that.

00:16:14.240 I think Rich's relationship was a little bit different.

00:16:16.900 Tell me your thoughts when you heard, put us in the room, paint the picture, when you

00:16:23.500 heard that Monmouth was shutting their entire polling operation.

00:16:27.960 Insta laughter, belly pain from the chuckles, you know?

00:16:31.680 I mean, the, I'm, and, and the, the article.

00:16:34.700 The media hasn't covered this at all.

00:16:37.460 They don't even mention it.

00:16:38.720 They're like, oh, they shut it down, blah, blah, blah.

00:16:40.200 Like, it's nothing.

00:16:41.260 Like, they didn't run that poll all over the place during the election.

00:16:44.380 All over the place.

00:16:46.540 And there were only two columns that were, that made a big deal out of it.

00:16:50.500 One was on NewJersey.com.

00:16:51.940 The other one was the Star Ledger.

00:16:53.180 And you see they're using words like gold standard polls, shuttering its doors after X

00:16:58.820 number of years in excellence since Patrick Murray came over in the early 2000s.

00:17:03.360 And I think he did in like, oh, five or something.

00:17:05.420 And then buried in page four, there's the mention briefly of how he had to write an op-ed

00:17:12.640 apologizing for how bad his polling is after their own state's gubernatorial election, their

00:17:18.960 own state's gubernatorial election, which he missed by about 10 points.

00:17:24.760 He showed that Patrick Murphy, of course, a Democrat, was going to easily beat Jack Cittarelli,

00:17:30.700 the Republican.

00:17:31.620 And it was a nail biter.

00:17:33.660 They had to stuff absentees in Bergen County in order to keep Governor Murphy in his seat.

00:17:39.860 So he wrote an article and he didn't, I mean, he acted like he accepted blame.

00:17:43.860 But then within, by the time he got to sentence three and four, it went on to, you know what?

00:17:49.220 We may not be able to do this anymore because horse race polling may not be possible.

00:17:54.760 It may just not be possible.

00:17:56.580 No, it's possible for some of us.

00:17:59.240 It's maybe not possible for somebody like him.

00:18:02.060 And some people do it intentionally.

00:18:05.740 I mean, in 2016, Monmouth was absolutely waiting for party to get Hillary Clinton closer to

00:18:11.540 Donald Trump in battleground states or indeed kind of comfortably ahead of Hillary, of Donald

00:18:18.000 Trump in states they polled, such as Pennsylvania, which they missed by seven points.

00:18:22.100 But when you miss your own state, okay, for years I was a guy who's, okay, what's really

00:18:27.620 happening in Florida?

00:18:28.880 Let's look at what the people's pundit has because those races used to be razor thin and 1.00

00:18:33.300 we had a very good track record.

00:18:34.780 When you miss your own state.

00:18:36.740 Wait, wait, wait.

00:18:37.280 Very good track record.

00:18:38.040 He's very humiliated.

00:18:39.660 Rich won't toot his own horn, so I'm going to do this.

00:18:42.400 Rich Ferris was the first person in America to talk about the Hispanic swing, which started

00:18:48.760 in Florida, which then carried over through the rest of the states, wherever you saw this

00:18:53.840 sizable Hispanic population, that they were all swinging to Trump.

00:18:57.200 It started in Florida.

00:18:58.480 Rich Ferris was the first person, even before any of these other quote-unquote gold standard

00:19:04.540 posters were talking about it.

00:19:06.320 Rich Ferris was five years ago, half a decade ago now, was Rich Ferris, the people's pundit

00:19:13.680 who told us it was coming.

00:19:14.560 Yeah, and I will give him one thing.

00:19:19.920 He did entertain that notion back then, but then like everybody else in that social circle,

00:19:24.760 Jack, he folded.

00:19:26.460 But it was going on that.

00:19:27.960 Let me say something about that.

00:19:29.780 Just now, you see some of these people responding to things we have been talking about for years,

00:19:35.680 and we can get into this in more detail.

00:19:38.140 But before I do, I will say this.

00:19:40.880 He did take my side once in this dispute with Ann Seltzer.

00:19:44.280 We're going back to 2020 in the Democratic caucuses.

00:19:47.480 She was polling for CNN in a joint poll with the Des Moines Register, and they spiked the

00:19:52.240 final poll, which means they did not release it.

00:19:55.180 Yeah, remember that?

00:19:56.080 The Sunday before the election.

00:19:58.020 Cernovich and I both get our hands on this poll.

00:20:00.660 It's leaked to us both.

00:20:02.040 It's very obvious what happened.

00:20:04.460 Joe Biden was trailing badly.

00:20:06.940 And Pete Buttigieg was used as an excuse for why they didn't release the poll.

00:20:11.640 And they were claiming the Buttigieg and Biden campaigns had issues with the poll because

00:20:15.760 they had found out about somebody who wasn't asked about Pete Buttigieg.

00:20:19.640 And when they investigated it, one interviewer had the Zoom set on her screen.

00:20:24.420 So when she was reading the interview, Jack, they were it was zoomed in and cutting off

00:20:29.040 Pete Buttigieg's name.

00:20:31.080 So they spiked it.

00:20:33.220 And that is not a legitimate reason to spike a poll.

00:20:35.900 For example, if I give people any given shift that an interviewer is conducting a poll, they

00:20:42.780 may be gathered themselves a handful of interviews.

00:20:45.340 You need a lot of people interviewing.

00:20:47.040 So in that event, you would just get rid of her responses to make sure that you didn't

00:20:51.760 get anything that's tainted.

00:20:53.240 You could go back and easily check whether or not she did it to anybody else.

00:20:56.540 It was plenty of good panels and you could wait that.

00:20:58.640 But it was games that they played.

00:21:00.340 Monmouth.

00:21:00.720 Yeah, it was an excuse.

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00:23:15.580 So we're on with Rich Barris, the People's Pundit.

00:23:18.420 We're talking about how the media completely got 2016, 2020, and 2024 wrong.

00:23:24.400 Yeah, they got 2020 wrong.

00:23:26.020 That's a story for another day, though.

00:23:27.860 A story for another day, perhaps.

00:23:29.800 Perhaps, you know, where's all the Joe Biden voters go, especially in those swing states?

00:23:36.560 And isn't it weird, by the way, that the same state that had the most universal ballots were Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin,

00:23:44.420 that had the lockdowns, the universal mail-in ballots, all of the nonsense,

00:23:48.760 and what with the three Democrat governors, Josh Shapiro and Whitmer and Evers over in Wisconsin.

00:23:55.360 And we just couldn't seem to crack the code of what was really going on.

00:23:58.720 But, you know, I digress.

00:23:59.980 I digress.

00:24:01.060 But there remains to be unfinished business on all of that.

00:24:05.720 Rich, what was really going on in 2024?

00:24:09.060 Because you and I were on here every day.

00:24:10.660 We were talking about this phenomenon that you had originally identified.

00:24:14.840 We talked about the low-prop voters, these people who don't usually vote in many elections.

00:24:19.600 But you talked about the phenomenon of the no-prop voters.

00:24:23.740 This is a phrase you coined, and you said, these are just people who have never voted,

00:24:29.480 either because they're young or because they've just never been involved in the political process before.

00:24:35.540 But you correctly identified that Donald Trump was switching them on,

00:24:40.380 and they were more likely to vote for Trump.

00:24:44.520 They're not exactly as conservative as your sort of core Republican voter.

00:24:51.380 They're not for poor Republicans at all.

00:24:53.800 They were pro-Trump.

00:24:55.680 And this is something that the media all of a sudden is acting like it's this huge revelation.

00:25:01.420 And I've seen people, you know, going on MSNBC now saying,

00:25:04.220 oh, my gosh, we've uncovered some incredible secret that Donald Trump is more popular than ever.

00:25:11.240 And if more people had voted, his numbers would have only gone up.

00:25:14.240 And I'm like, guys, we talked about it literally every single day for like 40 weeks straight

00:25:20.340 when we had Rich Barrison explaining this over and over and over,

00:25:24.700 and you guys just didn't listen because you were wrong and we were right.

00:25:29.480 Rich, what was the true story of 2024?

00:25:32.680 And how is it that these people who are acting like they magically just found out

00:25:36.340 have always been completely in the dark?

00:25:39.340 Yeah, ultimately, this was a result of the realignment,

00:25:43.600 and it had massive implications on the coalition and the outcome of the vote.

00:25:47.900 And we first identified the no-prop voter when we began to really study in greater detail

00:25:54.080 than others were even bothering to try the Trump or bust voter, right?

00:26:00.140 As somebody who comes out and votes for Donald Trump or would if you could get them to the ballot box,

00:26:04.980 but they will never vote for anybody else.

00:26:07.000 They're not going to vote for Nikki Haley.

00:26:08.480 They're not going to vote for Ron DeSantis.

00:26:10.940 And they lean to the right, but most of them will say that they're moderates.

00:26:14.860 And by the way, 24 was very moderate, the electorate.

00:26:18.200 It was as a percentage of the electorate, it usually would be that chair would represent a Republican loss.

00:26:25.020 But because of these no-prop voters actually coming out for the first time,

00:26:30.080 Trump was able to utilize them to win the election.

00:26:32.440 Years ago, USA Today used to do a survey, and it was called the Unlikely Voter Survey.

00:26:37.920 People understood that that number did matter and had predictive value,

00:26:41.240 but it was a massive implication of the realignment because many years ago and my entire career,

00:26:47.560 those voters were Democratic voters because the Democratic Party was the parting of the working man and woman

00:26:53.820 and the average working man and woman.

00:26:55.660 And they don't vote at the rate that educated voters and politicos vote.

00:27:00.620 So we identified them, seeing them in that Trump or bust number, and it was a very significant number.

00:27:07.700 All right, there's no, we would ask them to, if you could vote, if you were going to vote, who would you vote for?

00:27:12.600 And it was only Donald Trump.

00:27:13.940 So what does that mean?

00:27:14.560 The likely voter sample in polling is now more Democratic than the registered voter sample,

00:27:20.380 and the adult sample is now more Trumpy than either the register or likely.

00:27:25.040 It means that Trump, especially Trump, I mean, it's really not a Republican vote.

00:27:29.240 It is a Trump vote.

00:27:30.760 He had an enormous opportunity to go out and get these people,

00:27:34.220 and if he did, he would change the electorate. 0.99

00:27:36.520 He would make pollsters look like fools, and that's exactly what happened. 0.97

00:27:39.460 But now, two years later, we see people, like you said, on MSNBC, Harry Enten from CNN does a segment, 0.97

00:27:46.520 and they're acting as if they've made this novel discovery, Jack.

00:27:51.040 Like, this hasn't been going on for a very long time.

00:27:53.880 And in fact, we saw it from the very beginning of the Trump movement.

00:27:57.340 Trump got people out in 16 that had not voted since Bill Clinton.

00:28:01.600 They're not just necessarily young voters.

00:28:03.740 Some of these people, especially in the Midwest, middle-aged to just about to be in the senior,

00:28:10.700 you know, they're 45 to 64.

00:28:12.380 That age group, that was an extremely Trumpy voter, and they either had no vote history at all,

00:28:17.940 or they did not have a vote history within the last four cycles,

00:28:22.000 which is why we use the term, like, one out of four voters.

00:28:24.560 They've only voted in one out of the last four elections.

00:28:27.420 And this is one of the biggest findings of the 2024 election, along with, of course,

00:28:34.480 the change in vote preference for a Republican candidate among people of color, among younger voters.

00:28:41.200 So, you know, I mean, there are studies being done now, and we're all going to see them very soon.

00:28:45.060 I've seen several of them.

00:28:46.780 We always wait for these post-election autopsies.

00:28:49.120 It looks like Trump won in several states.

00:28:51.520 He won some of the young non-white vote.

00:28:54.600 It's just incredible.

00:28:55.420 It's just a remarkable outcome.

00:28:58.200 But you would not have been surprised if you did follow the public polling project that we conduct,

00:29:03.380 or you follow Big Data Poll, or People's Pundit, or you watch Jack Vostovic.

00:29:06.920 And, you know, we were talking about it on one of our segments.

00:29:09.840 So when you watch these people now act as if this came out of the blue,

00:29:13.300 and, you know, it's a big revelation, it wasn't.

00:29:15.660 Anyone who was really paying attention, doing an honest job,

00:29:18.460 and being honest with people would have been able to see this and identify it.

00:29:23.120 You should have been.

00:29:23.640 We talked about class realignment over and over and over.

00:29:28.920 We talked about how it was being done on economic lines, which shut across ethnic lines.

00:29:36.540 That's why you saw the big swing, particularly with African-American men.

00:29:39.720 And we talked about the fact that the Democrats saw it, too.

00:29:43.440 That's why they put Barack Obama out there, to have him start scolding African-American men.

00:29:48.060 Remember? Come on, brothers. Come on, brothers. We got to help our sister out.

00:29:52.840 Remember that? Come on. It was the most tristing I've ever seen.

00:29:55.720 I was at the DNC when Barack Obama spoke.

00:29:59.500 I remember this. I was in the room when he gave the speech.

00:30:02.220 We infiltrated the whole thing, and we were in there.

00:30:04.960 And I was like, this guy's seen the numbers.

00:30:07.720 We used to have this joke. It was Kamala's internals. 0.98

00:30:10.820 But Kamala's internals were basically our externals on this side of the football

00:30:16.020 because we were just telling the truth all along, and her internals were exactly the same.

00:30:21.440 And that's how you could tell their actions.

00:30:23.620 Or these jokes about, like, well, she's up big in –

00:30:27.880 Remember, they were trying to say she's up big in Florida.

00:30:29.620 Why is she going to Florida then? Why isn't she going to Florida? 1.00

00:30:32.440 If she's up in all these areas, why isn't –

00:30:35.640 If she was so up in Iowa, why didn't Tim Walz go ever to Iowa

00:30:41.420 when she is the governor of the neighboring state?

00:30:44.300 The neighboring state.

00:30:44.920 Basic things that we could do to fact-check the numbers that point out that their actions only made sense

00:30:54.520 if you saw them through the lens of what we were talking about

00:30:57.960 because internally they were not lying.

00:31:00.340 Internally they were telling the truth.

00:31:02.180 And that's why you didn't even see a big freakout from the Democrat establishment when Trump won

00:31:05.600 because they knew he was going to win the whole time.

00:31:08.600 And on the flip side of that, there was the other lie,

00:31:11.660 which is that there was going to be a massive blowback.

00:31:14.920 And that maybe even if this is happening, that people like the People's Pundit and others are saying,

00:31:20.500 even if he's really doing better with younger voters, with non-white voters, it doesn't matter

00:31:25.220 because there's going to be this massive revolt, this massive defection of white Republican women, 1.00

00:31:32.540 especially educated white Republican women in the suburbs. 0.78

00:31:36.160 And that was the other side of that lie.

00:31:38.440 And you had people like Dave Wasserman on Twitter, basically – not basically.

00:31:42.260 He said the day before the election, we'll know immediately when we see New Jersey

00:31:46.900 because we're going to see Monmouth County come in.

00:31:49.240 And I know you know this area of New Jersey.

00:31:51.180 And Monmouth County will tell us because there's a ton of white Republican women there 1.00

00:31:54.680 and he didn't do well with them last time and blah, blah, blah.

00:31:57.680 At the end of the day, Donald Trump obviously expanded his advantage in Monmouth County

00:32:02.100 and flip counties like Morris because none of that happened.

00:32:04.960 You could go through Upper and Lower Buckingham 1, 2 in Bucks County.

00:32:11.420 And you can see that these are very educated areas, by the way.

00:32:14.420 There's – you know, you have Lower 1, which is more working class, Lower 2, which is more educated. 0.89

00:32:19.880 The head of Merck lives over there, guys.

00:32:22.500 I mean that's the kind of area it is.

00:32:24.260 Donald Trump not only improved his performance in those areas, he won them both.

00:32:30.000 So he was winning the working class.

00:32:32.160 He was one of the only people.

00:32:33.600 He was one of the only people who pointed out that Trump was going to do better with suburban white women.

00:32:40.920 We talked about the impact of the trans in women's sports.

00:32:45.740 This was a huge issue there.

00:32:47.740 We talked about – I wrote a whole op-ed about the migrant violence, the MS-13, the Lake and Riley's, all of that.

00:32:55.220 And, of course, it can't be denied, the Maha movement.

00:32:58.640 The Maha movement is probably – and I'm just going to say it, right – is probably the most popular political movement in all of America today.

00:33:08.000 Maha is more popular than MAGA. 0.77

00:33:10.260 And I say that as like a card-carrying, you know, MAGA guy.

00:33:13.660 It's just true.

00:33:14.600 It's insanely popular.

00:33:16.900 So the idea that the Democrats could run against this entire constellation of things, they just don't understand.

00:33:23.300 And Trump understands it.

00:33:24.560 He intrinsically understands that this is where the country was at.

00:33:28.960 That's why he steered where he was.

00:33:31.120 That's why he put together the coalition the way that he did.

00:33:33.700 And that's why he got the result that he did.

00:33:36.220 Last minute, Rich Barris in the segment.

00:33:37.560 Yeah, I would basically point out that what you just said is absolutely right.

00:33:42.660 And we did do the Four Freedoms poll leading up to the election, which showed that that Maha movement was it. 0.96

00:33:50.560 That was the final nail in the coffin of the Harris campaign as if she was ever going to win.

00:33:54.720 But it bridged this gap between, you know, people that were attracted to what people like Robert Kennedy was saying about food and freedoms, food and health freedoms.

00:34:06.580 And that was the final nail in the coffin.

00:34:08.580 It was more than the margin.

00:34:10.000 And that was the ballgame.

00:34:12.200 And it gave them the permission to say, I'm not just voting for Trump.

00:34:16.160 I'm voting for the team with Bobby Kennedy on it.

00:34:19.920 We'll be right back here with more Human Events Daily.

00:34:24.720 Jack is a great guy.

00:34:33.340 He's written a fantastic book.

00:34:34.960 Everybody's talking about it.

00:34:36.220 Go get it.

00:34:37.340 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:34:41.300 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

00:34:44.400 Amen.

00:34:47.520 According to the NBC poll, Donald Trump achieved his highest approval rating ever.

00:34:52.060 He's ever had either time that he has been president.

00:34:57.080 Huh.

00:34:57.760 You wouldn't believe that from the headlines.

00:35:00.200 And the Democrat Party.

00:35:01.800 Well, it turns out that pretty much nobody can stand them.

00:35:06.740 Here's NBC pollster Steve Kornacki.

00:35:09.260 Look at this number for the Democratic Party right now.

00:35:12.180 Just 27 percent positive.

00:35:14.520 55 percent negative.

00:35:16.620 That's a gap of 28 points.

00:35:19.180 Fascinating stuff, that.

00:35:21.800 And then there was the old question, is the country on the right track or the wrong track?

00:35:27.780 Well, again, despite the media hyperventilating about every damn thing Trump does being the end of democracy as we know it, guess what?

00:35:37.380 More Americans think the country is heading in the right direction than they have for at least a decade.

00:35:42.840 We're back, final segment, human events, daily Salem radio, Real America's Voice with the People's Pundit.

00:35:50.860 Rich, more Americans now believe that America is on the right track than have in a very long time.

00:35:59.000 And President Trump obviously, obviously, driving force behind that, the MAGA and MAHA movements that are firing on all cylinders.

00:36:08.880 This, I've described the London Review of Books, by the way, is quoting me, saying that what President Trump is doing right now is instituting an actual regime change in Washington, D.C.

00:36:21.720 And the people are saying, look, this is what we voted for.

00:36:25.520 This is what we wanted.

00:36:26.800 In fact, this is what America wanted back in 2017.

00:36:30.160 And there's a whole story about why that didn't happen, because the regime fought back.

00:36:34.760 But this time around, no, that last gasp of the regime really was Joe Biden.

00:36:39.720 And then this insane Hail Mary with Kamala Harris.

00:36:42.600 Rich, what's going on with President Trump's true approval ratings right now?

00:36:47.460 What are you seeing?

00:36:48.400 Is the coalition building?

00:36:50.020 What are you looking at?

00:36:51.960 First, let me just tell people this.

00:36:54.540 If a pollster cannot poll an election, they can't poll anything else.

00:36:58.960 So if they can't tell you accurately who's going to win, what support levels each candidate has, then you really cannot trust a word of what they say when it comes to approval ratings, favorability ratings, even support or opposition towards an issue or a bill.

00:37:15.700 Do they support gun control?

00:37:17.080 Do they not support gun control?

00:37:18.440 Do they approve or disapprove of the president, of this congressman, of this senator?

00:37:23.000 The test for any pollster comes on election day.

00:37:26.680 It's the only way for you guys to evaluate us and the quality of our work and the accuracy of our work.

00:37:32.800 So Reuters, Ipsos, the New York Times, throw them all in a big bucket.

00:37:37.420 Who cares what they say about his approval rating?

00:37:40.280 You can't trust it.

00:37:41.480 They couldn't get the election right.

00:37:43.080 They're not getting that right either.

00:37:45.420 Right.

00:37:45.580 So I would I would I would also quote Mark Penn.

00:37:48.060 All of these negative approval polls are coming from people who did not do a good job during the election.

00:37:53.700 So we actually have not had Trump go negative yet in our own polling.

00:37:58.360 Now, of course, there was a honeymoon period and he hit as high as plus 18 with the approvals that we that we've gathered.

00:38:07.040 But now it's back down to planet Earth where you see for a typical popular president ranging anywhere between plus two when it gets a little hairy for him in certain, you know, certain times all the way back up to where it looks like it's going to be today, which is plus four.

00:38:20.680 So I was thinking at the start of this week, maybe it'll go negative.

00:38:24.240 But so far, it hasn't ticked back up, which I just looked at right now before the between the commercial break.

00:38:30.300 So that's that's where we really are.

00:38:32.660 I mean, and it's normal to see somebody come back down.

00:38:36.400 Now, I think a big part of it is people are kind of waiting to see whether he delivered.

00:38:40.760 And I'm starting to think that after we got some economic numbers and, of course, with inflation, people always know before you hear those numbers.

00:38:48.280 And I'm thinking that's why maybe we're seeing a little bit of a rebound, because for a few weeks, people were basically saying, look, we think you can do this, but we are waiting and kind of reserving judgment.

00:38:59.300 So right now I may be somewhat approved or somewhat disapproved.

00:39:02.920 And now they're coming back into the camp of being more solid about their position.

00:39:06.580 So we'll see, you know, and we'll we'll always, you know, give you the latest on where that is.

00:39:10.680 But again, all of the negative polls, with the exception of one who I think was grifting anyway, the entire election, those of us who did a good job are have have been roughly in the same ballpark with each other.

00:39:22.600 I mean, if you look at us, Rasmussen, Penn over at Harvard and Robert Cahaly did a good job, too, over at Trafalgar.

00:39:32.180 There's very few of us.

00:39:33.500 You know, I mean, honestly, you can count them on one hand.

00:39:35.860 We're all in the same ballpark.

00:39:37.320 And, Rich, it's the fundamentals, right, the fundamental propositions that led the no prop voter to become the, you know, the Trump prop voter, whatever you want to call it, which, by the way, I'm going to throw this out there, that any of these Republicans, and we've got to get you back on, Rich, to talk about the 2028 primary, which has already begun.

00:40:00.560 It's in full swing.

00:40:01.520 It's in full swing already.

00:40:03.620 And, you know, pretty much everybody in the 2028 primary, I think, was apparently all in a signal chat together recently that, sorry, I had to say it.

00:40:17.020 But look, you know, those voters, they're not going to be there for people who don't have Trump on their name.

00:40:21.820 They're just not going to be there for them.

00:40:23.060 So you've got to look at the country in fundamentally a different way.

00:40:25.860 And so Trump's approval rating is riding high on the fact that people who he brought into the process, they like him.

00:40:33.020 They like the style.

00:40:33.920 They like the MAGA style.

00:40:35.000 They like the Trump style.

00:40:36.420 They're not necessarily going to be there for any other candidate.

00:40:39.840 So if you're a J.D. Vance, if you're a Pete Hegg set, if you're a Zulci Gap, whoever, right, whoever, you know, Ron DeSantis, if he wants to run again, he probably will.

00:40:47.960 You've got to bank on that.

00:40:49.900 Or excuse me, you can't bank on that.

00:40:51.680 You have to understand the reality on rounds.

00:40:55.040 So Rich Barris, where can people go to follow you?

00:40:58.100 Incredible.

00:40:58.660 We could go on for another two hours.

00:41:00.940 We really could.

00:41:01.800 But unfortunately, we just don't have it, right?

00:41:04.440 Peoplespundit.locals.com.

00:41:06.220 That's the best place to follow me.

00:41:07.680 Peoplespundit.locals.com.

00:41:09.260 Thanks, Jack.

00:41:09.920 All the best, brother.

00:41:11.620 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 25, 2025

The Death of Legacy Polling and the Rise of the People’s Pundit

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