Breaking news out of Cuba where the President there just announced that while he s open to peace talks with the United States, his government also is not ruling out the possibility of entering a state of war with the U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected an offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin to voluntarily extend the New START nuclear arms control treaty, which caps the number of deployed strategic warheads on each side, was signed in 2010 and expired Thursday. New information emerging in the case of Nancy Guthrie s disappearance as the desperate search now enters day six. Microsoft Co-founder Bill Gates now expressing regret for his association with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:00:54.200We have breaking news out of Cuba, where the president there just announced that while he's open to peace talks with the United States, his government also is not ruling out the possibility of entering a, quote, state of war.
00:01:07.660U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected an offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin to voluntarily extend the new START nuclear arms control treaty.
00:01:17.940The agreement, which caps the number of deployed strategic warheads at 1,550 on each side, was signed in 2010 and expired Thursday.
00:01:28.780New information emerging in the case of Nancy Guthrie's disappearance as the desperate search now enters day six.
00:01:35.700Law enforcement is racing against the clock with the FBI confirming the first deadline from an alleged ransom note has expired and the next deadline set for Monday.
00:01:44.180Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates is now expressing regret for his association with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:01:50.440You know, in retrospect, that was a dead end, and I was foolish to spend time with him.
00:01:56.160I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him.
00:01:59.000We begin tonight with a major change in immigration enforcement in Oregon.
00:02:03.580A federal judge has ordered a temporary stop to all warrantless immigration arrests.
00:02:08.420That change is the latest in a series of legal actions that could limit the power of federal agents conducting immigration raids.
00:02:15.620Portland police served an arrest warrant on a man who threatened two security officers at a nearby Safeway on January 31st.
00:02:23.720He told them he was a part of the United States Secret Service.
00:02:27.580A suspect had approached the security officers at the Safeway, produced a handgun and pulled the trigger.
00:02:36.900That gun didn't fire, and the suspect got away, but left behind a case with a loaded shotgun that contained shells with threats that mentioned President Donald Trump, according to PPB.
00:02:48.300I don't want to give any spoilers. It's going to be fun, and it's going to be easy, and people only have to worry about dance.
00:02:58.860I know that I told them that they had four months to learn Spanish.
00:03:02.720They don't even have to learn Spanish.
00:03:04.500They just, it's better if they learn to dance.
00:03:09.160But I think there's no better dance than the one that comes from the heart.
00:03:14.940You know, the heartbeat dance, that's the only thing that they need to worry about and have fun and enjoy.
00:03:20.900On your second question, I think everybody in one of, listen, Bad Benny was,
00:03:25.240and I think that was demonstrated last night, one of the greatest artists in the world.
00:03:30.280And that's one of the reasons we chose him.
00:03:32.720But the other reason is he understood the platform he was on and that this was this platform is to use to unite people and to be able to bring people together with their creativity, with their talents and to be able to use this moment to do that.
00:03:46.580And I think artists in the past have done that.
00:10:28.820And present to us your theory of the case regarding, I know we've talked about on here before,0.91
00:10:33.820the fact that, yes, everybody looks at the underage girls, of course, criminal, disgusting.
00:10:40.560but many people overlook the money aspect and that that was his real his real ability and
00:10:48.460capability that he provided to the elites. Yes. In terms of the kind of biggest bombshells that
00:10:54.120I've seen so far, I mean, there's kind of like a top 200 list. But I mean, starting just whatever
00:11:01.160randomly comes to my head, I would say that the three hour secret audio tape in which Jeffrey
00:11:07.700Epstein secretly records the head of the Israeli military while he is still the head of the Israeli
00:11:13.240military, but looking to quit and join the private sector. And Jeffrey Epstein coaches him on how to
00:11:19.920make millions of dollars on board seats and in a kind of VC venture capital type role by leveraging
00:11:28.460what he calls IOUs. People create a Rolodex of people who owe you favors. They owe you a job.
00:11:38.700They owe you their life. They owe you something. Now is the time to cash in those favors.
00:11:46.900And so this is, you know, if you've ever read the 1987 Tom Wolfe book, Bonfire of the Vanities,
00:11:53.760There's a chapter called The Favor Bank, which explains how the New York City criminal justice system works.
00:12:00.440Not that people are prosecuted or not prosecuted on the basis of whether they broke or didn't break a law, but rather on the basis of whether that prosecution puts a favor in the favor bank to somebody on the inside or somebody on the outside.
00:12:16.740And that is – I see that favor bank system everywhere in Washington, D.C.
00:12:21.620I saw at the State Department, the careers have to decide whether to do a favor to their boss,
00:12:28.380the political appointee, or to a outside think tank like the Carnegie Endowment or the Atlantic
00:12:34.480Council or the Brookings Institution or the Open Society Foundation. And if the fixer,
00:12:42.120you know, someone who says, hey, you know, they see you at an event, they invite you to a party,
00:12:47.200They have a conversation. So you're at the State Department. Oh, you're in the Europe and Eurasia desk. Oh, that's that's interesting. Well, you know, we're we're working on a policy paper about trying to restructure the the energy market in Europe.
00:13:04.520And it would be great if you could, you know, give this a little push from the inside.
00:13:10.400And if that's not what government policy is or that's not what the top down directive is, there's a choice about whether to put a favor in the favor bank for an outside fixer or whether to do the right thing, what's best for the United States.
00:13:26.320And so the presence of the Jeffrey Epstein archetype is a kind of financial fixer on the outside that people do favors for so that favors will be returned is is something that basically corrupts the entire ability for us to have a government that serves our own people.
00:13:44.800and and by the way of course that bonfire the vanities uh it's it's so funny you mention that
00:13:50.960because we talked about this on this program before in terms of the fact that you know in
00:13:55.440that case it's a bond trader who gets you know basically unfairly accused of murder uh and then
00:14:01.320the system completely turns against him and i remember a couple years back i said well in that
00:14:06.440case it was a real estate or a new york uh bond trader but what if you say it was a new york
00:14:10.320real estate developer that the system were to turn against and to make up crimes against and
00:14:16.360claim that he was racist and all of this other stuff. Well, it's basically what Donald Trump
00:14:20.620has been living through this entire time with the favor bank turning against him, a system that he
00:14:27.300and in many ways, you know, you see the parallels here where he was kind of like in this network,
00:14:32.200he was in this system, but then he turned against the system and the system turned against him.
00:14:36.880Right. That's exactly right. But I think it's important to understand this context that there is this stick, just like in the censorship industrial complex, one of the difficult things to explain at first, but I think now the public has a pretty baseline understanding of this, is that there's this layer between the intelligence world and the non-intelligence world.
00:14:59.500It's kind of the para-intelligence world. And it's the same thing, like there's a government institution and there's a private sector, private business, but there's a sticky layer in between called public-private partnerships.
00:15:13.160And so, for example, if the Harvard Institute for International Development is getting $400 million from USAID to covertly, or even a better example, if USAID is giving $40 million to a Save the Children NGO in Pakistan,
00:15:35.340But the Central Intelligence Agency has tasked USAID to have save the children, collect people's biometric identification markers in a fake vaccine program.
00:15:49.560Well, that fake vaccine program is no longer just like a run by an NGO, a purely non-private thing.
00:15:57.420It is a it exists in that para intelligence layer.
00:16:01.500And Epstein sits at that nexus between government and non-government, you know, government and business, between intelligence and that sort of sticky, gooey layer between countries and, you know, whether that's U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia, U.K., France.
00:16:21.260And so you kind of have this, through these files, we're able to actually verify what was before this highly educated, informed speculation based on overwhelming circumstantial evidence.
00:16:41.120Now you have the hard, direct evidence. And it's a very exciting period. I would be remiss if I did not once again call for someone in Congress, whether that be Thomas Massey or Ro Khanna, who sponsored this, to simply dupe out the JFK Records Collection Act and swap out John F. Kennedy for Jeffrey Epstein so that we can get the classified layer of this.
00:17:09.020I believe that there is that the CIA would not have been doing its job, for example, if it had not at the very least been keeping tabs on Jeffrey Epstein, given all of the him handling money for sensitive CIA assets and agents.
00:17:26.120the fact that he was working with all these foreign governments while he was involved in
00:17:32.440highly geopolitical sensitive regions and activities over 40 years, and the fact that
00:17:38.640as we found out in these incredible files, it turns out Jeffrey Epstein himself foiled the CIA
00:17:46.740twice in 1999 and in 2011 to see what documents the CIA had on him. The CIA came back both times
00:17:57.220and said, we have no open and acknowledged agency affiliations. As for any classified documents you
00:18:03.640requested, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of such files. Well,
00:18:11.380this would be a great moment. I don't think anyone in Congress, that bill passed 427 to 1
00:18:17.420in the House and 99 to 0 in the Senate. I don't think anyone in Congress would want to be on the
00:18:21.800other side voting against that declassification mandatory independent review board. I think it's
00:18:30.100time to pull back the mask and show the true face of this thing. It's time to dig it. It's time to
00:18:36.500dig it all up. And Benz, to your point about CIA, right before we cut to this break, whenever they
00:18:43.000might need a favor from the Favor Bank, well, they just reach out to Jeff, reach out to good
00:18:49.080old Jeff and say, Jeff, can you take care of something for us while we look the other way
00:18:54.540about certain other activities? Because you're so useful for us when we need to move money around,
00:19:01.480when we need to move personnel around, whatever it is. Hey, can you fly this on one of your
00:19:06.460planes you know there'd never be that wouldn't be on a passenger manifest so you just look at
00:19:11.100the connections and to the people say there's nothing in epstein i would say you guys obviously
00:19:15.540haven't looked at the files be right back jack so big mike ben's human events daily
00:19:19.400today you know they talk about influencers these are influencers
00:19:27.940and uh they're friends of mine jack so like where's jack jack he's got a great job
00:20:45.660Okay, Mike Benz, I want to get you back on here because we also were talking about,
00:20:49.580so you're digging through the Epstein files, but we're also getting the contours of the Epstein network.
00:20:54.900You put out a video late last night, early this morning.
00:20:58.800it's been making the rounds, going hyperviral regarding J.D. Vance, the EU, 2028 censorship.
00:21:07.620And you claim that this is tied to elements of the Epstein network. What's going on?
00:21:13.680Well, what I mean by that, I mean, there is a funny direct tie. Even just yesterday,
00:21:18.440the government of France raided the offices of X to get their internal data claiming X was
00:21:26.360non-compliant with their new censorship law. So they literally had their Ministry of Justice
00:21:31.320sick their feds to raid, as if it was James O'Keefe's house, the corporate offices of a major
00:21:39.840U.S. company, X, just for its data to force it to compel censorship of speech. But when it did so,
00:21:53.420France justified it by its EU censorship law that it's enforcing with a crowbar.
00:22:02.200They cited a fake news study by MIT Media Lab, and it turns out MIT Media Lab was engorged
00:22:14.420in a massive scandal when it turned out that they had secretly concealed millions of dollars
00:22:20.420in funding from Jeffrey Epstein, and Jeffrey Epstein also brought in as a bundle of money
00:22:28.620into the MIT Media Lab, Reid Hoffman, who was the one who funded the fake E. Jean Carroll case
00:22:37.980and funded the fake Russian bots, the unbelievable new knowledge scandal from 2017,
00:22:44.240when the private mercenary firm that wrote the Senate intelligence report on Russian bots
00:22:49.080was caught by Facebook creating fake Russian bots and mass subscribing them to the Republican Roy
00:22:56.180Moore's candidacy. In fact, new knowledge funded by Reid Hoffman would say that in their donor
00:23:03.760report, quote, we elaborated, we orchestrated an elaborate false flag operation to give the
00:23:09.540public impression that Roy Moore was being backed by the Russians. And then they describe how after
00:23:14.340they created these fake Russian bots, they told the media that they had discovered fake Russian
00:23:18.580bots as a digital forensics firm. So this is who France is citing to justify its censorship
00:23:27.660activities, a fake news study funded by someone brought in by Jeffrey Epstein, whose whole
00:23:34.860professional career is funding fake operations. So irony there. But another thing is the censorship
00:23:42.680industrial complex, at its heart, is a transatlantic thing. It was from the moment it was
00:23:48.900born. The censorship industrial complex was not born in the United States after Trump won the 2016
00:23:53.620election. It was born under NATO and the EU after the 2014 Crimea coup that we, the Crimea, I'm sorry,
00:24:02.100the Maidan coup that gave rise to the eastern Ukraine breakaway and the Crimea
00:24:07.760referendum for it to join the Russian Federation. That was when NATO, the U.S., and the EU began
00:24:15.240setting up what at the time was its nascent censorship industrial complex by switching
00:24:21.620NATO's charter to focus on so-called hybrid threats. That is, it went from tanks to tweets,
00:24:28.040first setting up the censorship infrastructure through the Atlantic Council, which is funded
00:24:32.380not just by the U.S. government, the State Department, the War Department, USAID, the National
00:24:38.720Department for Democracy, but also by the British government, the Norwegian government, the French
00:24:43.320government, the Spanish government, as well as major oil companies and military industrial complex
00:24:49.340actors. But then when Brexit happened, the censorship industrial complex moved west to
00:24:58.020Western Europe. They blamed Brexit on Russian infiltration of social media, etc. And then to
00:25:08.100the U.S. when Trump won in November 2016. And then as right-wing populist parties, like the Vox
00:25:14.300party in Spain, Marine Le Pen's party in France, the AFD party in Germany, started to rise in
00:25:22.920polling and sometimes to power, as it did, for example, in Italy, the US-EU, the transatlantic
00:25:32.000censorship industrial complex, began to radically escalate. It feared that it did not have the
00:25:38.920leverage on its own, countries on their own, to be able to be a crowbar to Google, one of the
00:25:46.760biggest companies in the world, Facebook, one of the biggest companies in the world, and Twitter.
00:25:50.280And so they got together at these transatlantic—it was basically out-of-power Democrats with never-Trump Republicans, with their EU Eurocrats and their NATO-bot blobsters—all got together in rooms.
00:26:09.140I have this all on tape. I've played hundreds of hours of video of this over the years.
00:26:14.420And between 2017 and 2018, said we need to create the leverage to be able to enforce censorship as a matter of rule of law because we're not able to change the social norms around this fast enough.
00:26:26.940So what happened was is the U.S. government agencies, and mostly these are intelligence, if not at best intelligence adjacent.
00:26:38.640it's so it's so clear the nexus is it's so clear the way the same patronage networks and that's
00:26:44.980what it is are still operating today mike ben's that's all the time we have uh we gotta hop over
00:26:50.120here what um uh where can people go to volume find me on x on youtube instagram it's all mike
00:26:56.940ben cyber mike ben cyber god bless man and god bless you hope you'll be uh i hope you watching
00:27:03.160the halftime show this weekend ben's you're gonna like it you're gonna like what we put together for
00:27:09.800jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you
00:27:22.940great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always
00:27:30.380talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys who'll be getting
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00:29:13.280have now on the program. Of course, we've all been talking. The entire country is talking and on edge
00:29:18.140about this situation down in Arizona, sort of north of Tucson, in the area of Pima County,
00:29:24.800where the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Savannah Guthrie, has taken place.
00:29:31.880I want to bring on someone we've had on the program before. He is the former sheriff of
00:29:37.040Pinal County, which is just north of there, Sheriff Mark Lamb, who has run before. He's
00:29:42.860running for Congress right now. He joins us here at Human Events Daily. Sheriff, how are you?
00:29:46.320Great, Jack. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it.
00:29:50.680Well, thank you. And I just got to get your sense.
00:29:52.920You know, have you ever seen something like this take place in the state of Arizona?
00:29:58.380Certainly on your watch. What's your sense of of the case as it's unfolded?
00:30:03.680Well, look, this is a very high profile case because of who whose mom she is.
00:30:08.840And there's a lot of cases like this happen.
00:30:11.340and oftentimes the people don't have the name recognition and those cases go unknown to the
00:30:18.000community. We had one similar when I first became sheriff, turned out to be a catfish thing. He
00:30:23.700disappeared, same type of thing, blood around a car. We worked that case. It took us four days
00:30:29.480to actually find the body. Unfortunately, by the time we found him, he was dead. And we ultimately
00:30:35.080tracked down the guy using social media, phone pings, and we got our suspect and he is now
00:30:41.560facing life in prison plus 30 years or something. So I've seen it firsthand and we've been involved
00:30:48.740in some of these other cases, but this is a really high profile case. And Jack, I'll just
00:30:54.520one more thing, not to take away from this case and what's going on for the Guthrie family,
00:31:00.780but we also have some really big news that has dropped and it's kind of frustrating because
00:31:05.060there's a lot of stuff dropping right now with the Epstein stuff. And yet this is kind of
00:31:10.140dominating the news. And so I, I'm hoping that at some point we get some attention back to
00:31:15.080some of these people in the country have done some really, really nasty things and might be
00:31:19.780involved in that. So anyway, but I know we're talking about Guthrie today, so.
00:31:24.680Right. And, and certainly, uh, you know, there's, there's been no, uh, shortage of violence,
00:31:29.840no shortage of trouble coming across. I mean, you're, you're talking just a couple,
00:31:33.620about an hour north of the border. People know I've talked about before that I used to be
00:31:39.480ran through Fort Huachuca a couple of times down Sierra Vista area for training. And so I'm
00:31:45.080familiar with this area. Obviously, the Turning Point headquarters being there in Phoenix. So I've
00:31:49.600been to been to this area quite a few times. And and the spot where she's at, you know, or the
00:31:55.500house is at, you know, people have to realize that this is this is kind of on the outskirts.
00:31:59.420This is not the center of town. This is a more, you know, more specific area.
00:32:04.700This isn't something where you're just sort of driving down the street and you see a house.
00:32:07.680I mean, you can even see in some of the videos where where it's like this.
00:32:11.580Sheriff, you know, in a situation like this, there's a lot of questions have come up.
00:32:16.140People say, could this be there's ransom notes?
00:32:19.040There's hoax ransom notes coming in, some that seem to be taken seriously.
00:32:24.000But then other people are also saying, what about members of the family?
00:32:28.300In a law enforcement situation, how do you you know, how do you parse that out when it seems like there's so much incoming all at once?
00:32:36.460Yeah, there is a lot of incoming and plus the national attention, there's just social media, the national media, everything is popping off with this.
00:32:46.160You know what we have to do when we take a case like this is we have to remove the feelings of it.
00:32:50.760I mean, obviously, we feel for the family in that sense, but we also have to we can't let it cloud our judgment or cloud the evidence.
00:32:58.300And honestly, in these cases, 90% or more, I don't know what the exact number, I know it's over 90%, end up being somebody that's familiar to the person or maybe even sometimes family.
00:33:09.680And so what you're going to look for is you're going to look for who had the means, who had the opportunity, and also who had the motive.
00:33:15.480And the family oftentimes falls within those three the most.
00:33:20.120I think that you start there, you have to cast a wide net because you don't want to lose her either.
00:33:24.980You want to be able to catch anybody that might be trying to get out of town.
00:33:28.920So you cast a wide net, but honestly, you're going to really focus in and hone in until you can clear them.
00:33:34.640You've got to look at the people that had the means and the opportunity.
00:33:38.080And unfortunately, that falls to the family most often.
00:33:41.800So, yeah, that's how we would treat that case.
00:33:44.580Our job is to find them and find the crime and find the criminals, the suspects, the victim.
00:33:49.020And we have to stay focused on what the evidence and where it leads, what it is and where it leads.
00:36:00.500Well, that's exactly right. And I, you know, some of the military training I had,
00:36:04.580And, you know, talking about, you know, hostage taking, abduction situations, it hits on all the same, you know, the idea of humanization, make sure that there's, you know, there's someone there, that it's a situation like that.
00:36:16.520I do have to ask, though, you know, you know, you being a former sheriff from the area, you know, what do you what is your sense of the communication that the public has gotten versus, you know, what seems to be a lot of information that kind of goes back and forth?
00:36:31.640You know, one day there's one thing and then suddenly it gets contradicted the next day.
00:36:53.800We really don't have any clue who it is.
00:36:55.760That doesn't give confidence to the family.
00:36:58.160That doesn't give confidence to the public.
00:37:00.180And what it does is it actually fuels more disconcerting information or confusing information.
00:37:07.400Oftentimes, even if you don't really have a strong, strong suspect, you will tell people that you do because it makes the person who may be the abductor, they now all of a sudden start to make mistakes.
00:37:20.740And so you're trying to either force them to make mistakes.
00:37:25.360And this is the type of information we would be giving.
00:37:28.100But really, the leadership should be delivering very confident, very clear, give as much information as you can to the to the to the community and then withhold key information that's going to help you on your investigation.
00:37:42.560sheriff lamb this is phenomenal information one of the biggest stories really in the country
00:37:50.880right now um we're up on a hard break i want to hold you over because this is something we're
00:37:55.980getting comments flooding in right now with your with the response to the stuff that you're putting
00:38:01.300out so hold it right there jack posobic sheriff mark lamb here on human events dale be right back
00:38:12.560Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.
00:38:20.460And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:38:24.380And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen.
00:38:31.400All right, Jack, we are back live. We've got Sheriff Mark Lamb joining us now. Of course,
00:38:37.140he's running for Congress now, but for many years, he was the sheriff of Pinal County.
00:38:42.560there in Arizona. Not exactly the same county where Nancy Guthrie has gone missing, but
00:38:50.060very, very close. And in some cases, also very similar terrain. Sheriff Lamb, you were telling
00:38:55.920us about a case that took place where you had a disappearance. Tell us a little bit about the
00:39:02.960terrain that we're talking about in this situation, because people are saying if she was abducted,
00:39:08.980I mean, they could be out in the desert.
00:39:11.700Yeah, look, first of all, the desert is very dark out there.0.98
00:39:15.060Everything in the desert is trying to poke you, stick you, try to kill you, I mean, scratch you, whatever, bite you.0.71
00:39:20.940So it is not the place you want to be.
00:39:22.680It gets very cold at night, even though Arizona may get up to 75 to 80 degrees.
00:39:28.840It's still extremely cold out there in the desert.
00:39:31.780And so even from a helicopter, it's hard to actually locate people in the desert because of the terrain.0.60
00:39:39.820So when we've been looking for smugglers or lost people in the past, we're flying over and it is very tough to see them, which is why they have called in BORTAC.
00:39:50.240BORTAC is a specialized unit with the Border Patrol.
00:39:53.880They are extremely proficient at looking for people, tracking people, using footprints, all sorts of stuff.
00:40:01.700So I'm glad to see that they brought them in, because if she is indeed in the desert,
00:40:06.400you're going to want to have people experience with that terrain who know where she might be and where to look.
00:40:12.860Now, let's I mean, if she's been in the desert, it's going to be a miserable four nights or seven because it gets cold.
00:40:18.620But Bortak is there and they can help us tremendously in that area.
00:40:24.320Well, and so Bortak, I mean, this ties in with the national conversation that we've been having.
00:40:29.440ICE, Border Patrol, control of the border. BORTAC has these capabilities, not because typically
00:40:36.160they're looking for abductees or victims, but because they're tracking traffickers and cartels
00:40:43.300and migrants and coyotes across the border in this area. Yeah, they're human traffickers and
00:40:49.160they're human. Let me say that again. They are human trackers, not traffickers. They look for0.96
00:40:56.260the human traffic. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. I'm getting on a plane for anybody listening.1.00
00:41:02.880They are human trackers. They're very good at what they do. And they're going to be very helpful
00:41:07.760if she is indeed in the desert. You want to rule that out. You don't want that to be lingering
00:41:12.340around. You want to be able to know that you've looked at all those areas. You followed every
00:41:17.360lead. And this also going back to the tracking footprints, tire tracks, all of those things
00:41:22.340become very important in a case like this and guys who who are experienced in that are going
00:41:27.460to be very helpful and they have the ability to do that as well you know you mentioned at night
00:41:35.260infrared that's something they're going to be able to track or if and in for on those infrared cams
00:41:39.860i know this from you know being an intelligence officer in the military that you could track if
00:41:43.960a vehicle has come through an area recently because they'll see that they'll see that heat
00:41:48.420signature, and that'll light up at night. Absolutely. That'll help. If there's anybody
00:41:53.600that's been laying in the sand, it'll show the warmth of that in there. So yeah, very helpful
00:41:58.680for tracking. That certainly is. Sheriff Lamb, tell people a little bit about your race and
00:42:07.480what it is that made you want to go from law enforcement into running for political office
00:42:12.380there, running for Congress. Look, I think we need this type of leadership, not just at a county
00:42:17.820level. We're seeing it. We need it everywhere. We need people that are experiencing the issues
00:42:22.720of this country, border patrol, getting government spending under control, finding fraud and
00:42:29.360prosecuting people for fraud. These are the type of leadership we need in D.C. And frankly,
00:42:34.320right now, we need people that are unapologetic about what they believe in. And my belief system
00:42:40.080is God, family, freedom in the Constitution. Andy Biggs has been a great congressman, but he's now
00:42:45.160running for governor in the state of Arizona. And I'm working on trying to replace his empty seat
00:42:50.100and make sure that we get a good conservative in Washington, D.C. that's going to try to bring
00:42:55.140some strong leadership and some some knowledge to Washington on some areas that we really need to
00:43:02.300we really need to make sure we fix. You know, President Trump has done great with his his
00:43:07.920executive orders and fixing the border. And now we've got to solidify those long term and make
00:43:13.660sure that we protect American citizens because all that we're seeing in Minnesota and everywhere0.99
00:43:18.220else, these are a byproduct of a broken immigration system. And we're still dealing0.97
00:43:22.260with the after effects of the Biden administration. And that's exactly what we see going on writ large.
00:43:29.800And by the way, you know, you mentioned how Border Patrol and the importance of what they're
00:43:34.320doing. You got Bortak out there that's actually joining in the search for Savannah Guthrie's
00:43:40.360mother, Nancy, and they're being demonized by the Democrats. They're being demonized by the media,
00:43:45.520by the left. But this is what they do on a regular basis. They're the best in the world at it. And
00:43:51.700those are the same people who are being used as a political football when really all they are
00:43:57.520is national security and law enforcement. That's it. That's it. And what this also shows is the
00:44:04.020importance of a working relationship with federal law enforcement and local law enforcement, not to
00:44:10.280digress into a political, but what we see across this country in the areas where they don't want
00:44:14.760to work with the federal partners, it's not always about immigration. Sometimes it's about
00:44:18.800finding somebody's mom. Sometimes it's about tracking down human traffickers, child traffickers.
00:44:24.400Sometimes it's about tracking down drug operations and cartels across this country.
00:44:30.340To be successful, we have to have good collaboration and cooperation from our local
00:44:35.240law enforcement, state law enforcement, county sheriffs, and our federal partners.
00:44:40.160And I think this should be a reminder to everybody on a case like this, the importance of that.
00:44:46.760And kudos to President Trump for his willingness to send all those resources for this case
00:44:51.740and to be able to help wherever he can.
00:45:13.060You can donate no matter where you live.
00:45:15.240Even though I'm running for Congress in Arizona, the votes I make will impact you no matter what state you live in.
00:45:20.800I've been endorsed by President Trump, House Freedom Fund, Club for Growth, TPUSA.
00:45:26.840So, yeah, we're at Turning Point Action.
00:45:29.080We're running a great campaign, and we want to be able to represent the people of Arizona.
00:45:34.120And and look, my heart goes out to the Guthrie family, hope prayers for the law enforcement and the family.
00:45:40.020But hopefully they find her and bring some resolution to this case.
00:45:44.720Well, amen to that. There's no question. Sheriff Lamb, thank you so much for joining us.
00:45:48.840Thanks, Jack. We'll talk to you later. Absolutely. Folks, you got it straight from the horse's mouth.
00:45:54.440Sheriff Lamb, one of the one of the best men in law enforcement, certainly Arizona.
00:45:59.980When this whole thing kicked off, he was one of the first people I said, we want to get him on.
00:46:05.260I want to get Sheriff Lamb on. And I've remembered he was from the county that was immediately adjacent to Pima County.
00:46:12.260I said, well, look, he knows the area, similar terrain, probably have had cases that, you know, crossed from county to county because, of course, criminals and traffickers and and the rest.
00:46:20.820They aren't the ones that are going to be they're not going to worry about county lines.
00:46:24.140They're going in and out. And that situation he talked about where, you know, it was a search and rescue where they were found out in the desert, that there was an individual that had gone lost and had been missing, catfished in that situation, later found with a vehicle, blood out there in the desert.
00:46:43.520And it's not far from this area. This is a remote area. This is not right downtown. This is in the outskirts of Tucson. And then from there, it is not far at all as a crow flies or be able to drive out into the high desert.
00:46:59.620and certainly something that I think myself and a lot of people are looking for.
00:47:04.800I'll just say, you know, you have to take them seriously, but I'm skeptical.
00:47:08.500I'm skeptical of these ransom letters.