Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Epstein EU Link, BORTAC Joins Guthrie Search & the Historic TPUSA All American Halftime Show

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00:00:42.960 A commentator, international social media sensation,

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00:00:49.620 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:52.640 Christ is king.

00:00:54.200 We have breaking news out of Cuba, where the president there just announced that while he's open to peace talks with the United States, his government also is not ruling out the possibility of entering a, quote, state of war.

00:01:07.660 U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected an offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin to voluntarily extend the new START nuclear arms control treaty.

00:01:17.940 The agreement, which caps the number of deployed strategic warheads at 1,550 on each side, was signed in 2010 and expired Thursday.

00:01:28.780 New information emerging in the case of Nancy Guthrie's disappearance as the desperate search now enters day six.

00:01:35.700 Law enforcement is racing against the clock with the FBI confirming the first deadline from an alleged ransom note has expired and the next deadline set for Monday.

00:01:44.180 Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates is now expressing regret for his association with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:01:50.440 You know, in retrospect, that was a dead end, and I was foolish to spend time with him.

00:01:56.160 I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him.

00:01:59.000 We begin tonight with a major change in immigration enforcement in Oregon.

00:02:03.580 A federal judge has ordered a temporary stop to all warrantless immigration arrests.

00:02:08.420 That change is the latest in a series of legal actions that could limit the power of federal agents conducting immigration raids.

00:02:15.620 Portland police served an arrest warrant on a man who threatened two security officers at a nearby Safeway on January 31st.

00:02:23.720 He told them he was a part of the United States Secret Service.

00:02:27.580 A suspect had approached the security officers at the Safeway, produced a handgun and pulled the trigger.

00:02:36.900 That gun didn't fire, and the suspect got away, but left behind a case with a loaded shotgun that contained shells with threats that mentioned President Donald Trump, according to PPB.

00:02:48.300 I don't want to give any spoilers. It's going to be fun, and it's going to be easy, and people only have to worry about dance.

00:02:58.860 I know that I told them that they had four months to learn Spanish.

00:03:02.720 They don't even have to learn Spanish.

00:03:04.500 They just, it's better if they learn to dance.

00:03:09.160 But I think there's no better dance than the one that comes from the heart.

00:03:14.940 You know, the heartbeat dance, that's the only thing that they need to worry about and have fun and enjoy.

00:03:20.900 On your second question, I think everybody in one of, listen, Bad Benny was,

00:03:25.240 and I think that was demonstrated last night, one of the greatest artists in the world.

00:03:30.280 And that's one of the reasons we chose him.

00:03:32.720 But the other reason is he understood the platform he was on and that this was this platform is to use to unite people and to be able to bring people together with their creativity, with their talents and to be able to use this moment to do that.

00:03:46.580 And I think artists in the past have done that.

00:03:48.900 I think Bad Bunny understands that.

00:03:51.200 And I think you'll have a great performance.

00:03:55.860 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:03:58.980 We're here live February 6th, 2026.

00:04:02.720 Anno Domini and folks what can I say we are now just days away from the Turning Point USA

00:04:12.700 all-American halftime show and I've got a lot of response on this people say how do you watch it

00:04:21.680 how are we doing it park it right here real America's voice but to you in the real America's

00:04:27.080 Voice audience, you need to be the change agent. You need to go out and be the force multiplier

00:04:32.840 for this cultural event. This is going to be a cultural turning point this Sunday. When you go

00:04:40.620 out there and you go to whatever party you're at, you got to go out, be the force multiplier.

00:04:44.860 Remember when we did the ballots? Remember we were getting the ballots and we were saying,

00:04:49.520 did you get your ballot in? Did you ballot in? Ballot chasing, ballot chasing. Same idea. You

00:04:53.480 You need to be that persistent force.

00:04:55.200 If you're at your party, if you're in the group chat, you go to the normies in your

00:04:59.200 life and you say, this is where you go to Real America's Voice.

00:05:02.360 This is how you get it up, whether you're on streaming, whether it's on a smart TV,

00:05:06.920 you download it.

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00:05:13.800 So make sure it's all set up.

00:05:15.240 Do it even before the game starts.

00:05:18.700 So make sure you do it even before the game starts so you'll be ready to go.

00:05:23.480 It's really simple, but it's really, really important to take the steps.

00:05:27.940 This is your mission, patriots.

00:05:30.460 You need to go out there and tell people.

00:05:33.220 Are you going to be one of the millions upon millions of Americans who proudly and boldly send the message?

00:05:41.320 And listen to these guys, Goodell, Bad Bunny.

00:05:44.580 Oh, you can do the dance if you don't understand the words. 1.00

00:05:48.820 Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous. 0.99

00:05:51.140 We're not going to take this anymore. 0.99

00:05:53.480 We are the American people and the American people are going to step up and be heard.

00:06:00.180 Our voices will be heard and we will vote.

00:06:04.640 We will vote with our remote controls this weekend because what we're going to do is turn that off.

00:06:12.300 We're going to make the switch, turn it off, change the channel, watch the game, whatever, do whatever you want.

00:06:19.120 But when halftime show comes around, turn the big game off and turn on American patriotism.

00:06:28.100 People are going to be talking about this for years.

00:06:31.540 This is going to be the start of a new change in America and a new change in how we run these halftime shows.

00:06:40.120 And we all know, we all know this is one of the high days of American civic culture, right?

00:06:46.060 But I'll tell you something right now.

00:06:49.660 It's time to make the shift.

00:06:51.560 And that guy, Goodell, he wants to double down on Bad Bunny.

00:06:54.760 He wants to double down on all the insanity that's come forward.

00:06:57.620 You know what I say?

00:06:58.500 I say bring it.

00:06:59.740 Because the people of this country, the people of America,

00:07:03.700 the millions who voted for Donald Trump,

00:07:05.940 the millions of people, folks who just like country music,

00:07:08.760 folks who just don't want to be disrespected

00:07:11.620 by the likes of Stephen Colbert and others,

00:07:14.200 bring it on.

00:07:15.280 Bring it on.

00:07:15.860 You want to find us?

00:07:17.520 We'll be at the TPUSA.

00:07:18.820 halftime show this weekend. We'll be right there.

00:07:26.580 Nothing will stand in our way, and our golden age has just begun.

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00:09:43.740 We've got Mike Benz back on the program.

00:09:47.300 What's up, Mike?

00:09:48.660 How you doing, Jack?

00:09:50.460 Good to see you.

00:09:51.540 Well, I know you've been burning the candle at both ends, going through the Epstein files 0.57

00:09:56.500 and also seeing what the Epstein network is up to this week or these days, I should say.

00:10:03.560 And, you know, since we've seen this, you know, I was kind of I was kind of saying like,

00:10:08.280 oh, Epstein drop two finally came.

00:10:11.340 Phase two finally came.

00:10:12.440 One of the rare instances where the sequel is better than the original, as believe me, I well know.

00:10:19.280 And I saw your tweet about this where you were just saying, wow, they absolutely delivered.

00:10:25.300 What top lines did you find in this?

00:10:28.820 And present to us your theory of the case regarding, I know we've talked about on here before, 0.91

00:10:33.820 the fact that, yes, everybody looks at the underage girls, of course, criminal, disgusting.

00:10:40.560 but many people overlook the money aspect and that that was his real his real ability and

00:10:48.460 capability that he provided to the elites. Yes. In terms of the kind of biggest bombshells that

00:10:54.120 I've seen so far, I mean, there's kind of like a top 200 list. But I mean, starting just whatever

00:11:01.160 randomly comes to my head, I would say that the three hour secret audio tape in which Jeffrey

00:11:07.700 Epstein secretly records the head of the Israeli military while he is still the head of the Israeli

00:11:13.240 military, but looking to quit and join the private sector. And Jeffrey Epstein coaches him on how to

00:11:19.920 make millions of dollars on board seats and in a kind of VC venture capital type role by leveraging

00:11:28.460 what he calls IOUs. People create a Rolodex of people who owe you favors. They owe you a job.

00:11:38.700 They owe you their life. They owe you something. Now is the time to cash in those favors.

00:11:46.900 And so this is, you know, if you've ever read the 1987 Tom Wolfe book, Bonfire of the Vanities,

00:11:53.760 There's a chapter called The Favor Bank, which explains how the New York City criminal justice system works.

00:12:00.440 Not that people are prosecuted or not prosecuted on the basis of whether they broke or didn't break a law, but rather on the basis of whether that prosecution puts a favor in the favor bank to somebody on the inside or somebody on the outside.

00:12:16.740 And that is – I see that favor bank system everywhere in Washington, D.C.

00:12:21.620 I saw at the State Department, the careers have to decide whether to do a favor to their boss,

00:12:28.380 the political appointee, or to a outside think tank like the Carnegie Endowment or the Atlantic

00:12:34.480 Council or the Brookings Institution or the Open Society Foundation. And if the fixer,

00:12:42.120 you know, someone who says, hey, you know, they see you at an event, they invite you to a party,

00:12:47.200 They have a conversation. So you're at the State Department. Oh, you're in the Europe and Eurasia desk. Oh, that's that's interesting. Well, you know, we're we're working on a policy paper about trying to restructure the the energy market in Europe.

00:13:04.520 And it would be great if you could, you know, give this a little push from the inside.

00:13:10.400 And if that's not what government policy is or that's not what the top down directive is, there's a choice about whether to put a favor in the favor bank for an outside fixer or whether to do the right thing, what's best for the United States.

00:13:26.320 And so the presence of the Jeffrey Epstein archetype is a kind of financial fixer on the outside that people do favors for so that favors will be returned is is something that basically corrupts the entire ability for us to have a government that serves our own people.

00:13:44.800 and and by the way of course that bonfire the vanities uh it's it's so funny you mention that

00:13:50.960 because we talked about this on this program before in terms of the fact that you know in

00:13:55.440 that case it's a bond trader who gets you know basically unfairly accused of murder uh and then

00:14:01.320 the system completely turns against him and i remember a couple years back i said well in that

00:14:06.440 case it was a real estate or a new york uh bond trader but what if you say it was a new york

00:14:10.320 real estate developer that the system were to turn against and to make up crimes against and

00:14:16.360 claim that he was racist and all of this other stuff. Well, it's basically what Donald Trump

00:14:20.620 has been living through this entire time with the favor bank turning against him, a system that he

00:14:27.300 and in many ways, you know, you see the parallels here where he was kind of like in this network,

00:14:32.200 he was in this system, but then he turned against the system and the system turned against him.

00:14:36.880 Right. That's exactly right. But I think it's important to understand this context that there is this stick, just like in the censorship industrial complex, one of the difficult things to explain at first, but I think now the public has a pretty baseline understanding of this, is that there's this layer between the intelligence world and the non-intelligence world.

00:14:59.500 It's kind of the para-intelligence world. And it's the same thing, like there's a government institution and there's a private sector, private business, but there's a sticky layer in between called public-private partnerships.

00:15:13.160 And so, for example, if the Harvard Institute for International Development is getting $400 million from USAID to covertly, or even a better example, if USAID is giving $40 million to a Save the Children NGO in Pakistan,

00:15:35.340 But the Central Intelligence Agency has tasked USAID to have save the children, collect people's biometric identification markers in a fake vaccine program.

00:15:49.560 Well, that fake vaccine program is no longer just like a run by an NGO, a purely non-private thing.

00:15:57.420 It is a it exists in that para intelligence layer.

00:16:01.500 And Epstein sits at that nexus between government and non-government, you know, government and business, between intelligence and that sort of sticky, gooey layer between countries and, you know, whether that's U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia, U.K., France.

00:16:21.260 And so you kind of have this, through these files, we're able to actually verify what was before this highly educated, informed speculation based on overwhelming circumstantial evidence.

00:16:41.120 Now you have the hard, direct evidence. And it's a very exciting period. I would be remiss if I did not once again call for someone in Congress, whether that be Thomas Massey or Ro Khanna, who sponsored this, to simply dupe out the JFK Records Collection Act and swap out John F. Kennedy for Jeffrey Epstein so that we can get the classified layer of this.

00:17:09.020 I believe that there is that the CIA would not have been doing its job, for example, if it had not at the very least been keeping tabs on Jeffrey Epstein, given all of the him handling money for sensitive CIA assets and agents.

00:17:26.120 the fact that he was working with all these foreign governments while he was involved in

00:17:32.440 highly geopolitical sensitive regions and activities over 40 years, and the fact that

00:17:38.640 as we found out in these incredible files, it turns out Jeffrey Epstein himself foiled the CIA

00:17:46.740 twice in 1999 and in 2011 to see what documents the CIA had on him. The CIA came back both times

00:17:57.220 and said, we have no open and acknowledged agency affiliations. As for any classified documents you

00:18:03.640 requested, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of such files. Well,

00:18:11.380 this would be a great moment. I don't think anyone in Congress, that bill passed 427 to 1

00:18:17.420 in the House and 99 to 0 in the Senate. I don't think anyone in Congress would want to be on the

00:18:21.800 other side voting against that declassification mandatory independent review board. I think it's

00:18:30.100 time to pull back the mask and show the true face of this thing. It's time to dig it. It's time to

00:18:36.500 dig it all up. And Benz, to your point about CIA, right before we cut to this break, whenever they

00:18:43.000 might need a favor from the Favor Bank, well, they just reach out to Jeff, reach out to good

00:18:49.080 old Jeff and say, Jeff, can you take care of something for us while we look the other way

00:18:54.540 about certain other activities? Because you're so useful for us when we need to move money around,

00:19:01.480 when we need to move personnel around, whatever it is. Hey, can you fly this on one of your

00:19:06.460 planes you know there'd never be that wouldn't be on a passenger manifest so you just look at

00:19:11.100 the connections and to the people say there's nothing in epstein i would say you guys obviously

00:19:15.540 haven't looked at the files be right back jack so big mike ben's human events daily

00:19:19.400 today you know they talk about influencers these are influencers

00:19:27.940 and uh they're friends of mine jack so like where's jack jack he's got a great job

00:19:36.180 All right, folks, here we go.

00:19:40.280 Jack Posobiec, we're back.

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00:20:45.660 Okay, Mike Benz, I want to get you back on here because we also were talking about,

00:20:49.580 so you're digging through the Epstein files, but we're also getting the contours of the Epstein network.

00:20:54.900 You put out a video late last night, early this morning.

00:20:58.800 it's been making the rounds, going hyperviral regarding J.D. Vance, the EU, 2028 censorship.

00:21:07.620 And you claim that this is tied to elements of the Epstein network. What's going on?

00:21:13.680 Well, what I mean by that, I mean, there is a funny direct tie. Even just yesterday,

00:21:18.440 the government of France raided the offices of X to get their internal data claiming X was

00:21:26.360 non-compliant with their new censorship law. So they literally had their Ministry of Justice

00:21:31.320 sick their feds to raid, as if it was James O'Keefe's house, the corporate offices of a major

00:21:39.840 U.S. company, X, just for its data to force it to compel censorship of speech. But when it did so,

00:21:53.420 France justified it by its EU censorship law that it's enforcing with a crowbar.

00:22:02.200 They cited a fake news study by MIT Media Lab, and it turns out MIT Media Lab was engorged

00:22:14.420 in a massive scandal when it turned out that they had secretly concealed millions of dollars

00:22:20.420 in funding from Jeffrey Epstein, and Jeffrey Epstein also brought in as a bundle of money

00:22:28.620 into the MIT Media Lab, Reid Hoffman, who was the one who funded the fake E. Jean Carroll case

00:22:37.980 and funded the fake Russian bots, the unbelievable new knowledge scandal from 2017,

00:22:44.240 when the private mercenary firm that wrote the Senate intelligence report on Russian bots

00:22:49.080 was caught by Facebook creating fake Russian bots and mass subscribing them to the Republican Roy

00:22:56.180 Moore's candidacy. In fact, new knowledge funded by Reid Hoffman would say that in their donor

00:23:03.760 report, quote, we elaborated, we orchestrated an elaborate false flag operation to give the

00:23:09.540 public impression that Roy Moore was being backed by the Russians. And then they describe how after

00:23:14.340 they created these fake Russian bots, they told the media that they had discovered fake Russian

00:23:18.580 bots as a digital forensics firm. So this is who France is citing to justify its censorship

00:23:27.660 activities, a fake news study funded by someone brought in by Jeffrey Epstein, whose whole

00:23:34.860 professional career is funding fake operations. So irony there. But another thing is the censorship

00:23:42.680 industrial complex, at its heart, is a transatlantic thing. It was from the moment it was

00:23:48.900 born. The censorship industrial complex was not born in the United States after Trump won the 2016

00:23:53.620 election. It was born under NATO and the EU after the 2014 Crimea coup that we, the Crimea, I'm sorry,

00:24:02.100 the Maidan coup that gave rise to the eastern Ukraine breakaway and the Crimea

00:24:07.760 referendum for it to join the Russian Federation. That was when NATO, the U.S., and the EU began

00:24:15.240 setting up what at the time was its nascent censorship industrial complex by switching

00:24:21.620 NATO's charter to focus on so-called hybrid threats. That is, it went from tanks to tweets,

00:24:28.040 first setting up the censorship infrastructure through the Atlantic Council, which is funded

00:24:32.380 not just by the U.S. government, the State Department, the War Department, USAID, the National

00:24:38.720 Department for Democracy, but also by the British government, the Norwegian government, the French

00:24:43.320 government, the Spanish government, as well as major oil companies and military industrial complex

00:24:49.340 actors. But then when Brexit happened, the censorship industrial complex moved west to

00:24:58.020 Western Europe. They blamed Brexit on Russian infiltration of social media, etc. And then to

00:25:08.100 the U.S. when Trump won in November 2016. And then as right-wing populist parties, like the Vox

00:25:14.300 party in Spain, Marine Le Pen's party in France, the AFD party in Germany, started to rise in

00:25:22.920 polling and sometimes to power, as it did, for example, in Italy, the US-EU, the transatlantic

00:25:32.000 censorship industrial complex, began to radically escalate. It feared that it did not have the

00:25:38.920 leverage on its own, countries on their own, to be able to be a crowbar to Google, one of the

00:25:46.760 biggest companies in the world, Facebook, one of the biggest companies in the world, and Twitter.

00:25:50.280 And so they got together at these transatlantic—it was basically out-of-power Democrats with never-Trump Republicans, with their EU Eurocrats and their NATO-bot blobsters—all got together in rooms.

00:26:09.140 I have this all on tape. I've played hundreds of hours of video of this over the years.

00:26:14.420 And between 2017 and 2018, said we need to create the leverage to be able to enforce censorship as a matter of rule of law because we're not able to change the social norms around this fast enough.

00:26:26.940 So what happened was is the U.S. government agencies, and mostly these are intelligence, if not at best intelligence adjacent.

00:26:38.640 it's so it's so clear the nexus is it's so clear the way the same patronage networks and that's

00:26:44.980 what it is are still operating today mike ben's that's all the time we have uh we gotta hop over

00:26:50.120 here what um uh where can people go to volume find me on x on youtube instagram it's all mike

00:26:56.940 ben cyber mike ben cyber god bless man and god bless you hope you'll be uh i hope you watching

00:27:03.160 the halftime show this weekend ben's you're gonna like it you're gonna like what we put together for

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00:27:09.800 jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you

00:27:22.940 great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always

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00:29:06.080 these American jobs and celebrate 250 years of freedom. All right, folks, very excited that we

00:29:13.280 have now on the program. Of course, we've all been talking. The entire country is talking and on edge

00:29:18.140 about this situation down in Arizona, sort of north of Tucson, in the area of Pima County,

00:29:24.800 where the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Savannah Guthrie, has taken place.

00:29:31.880 I want to bring on someone we've had on the program before. He is the former sheriff of

00:29:37.040 Pinal County, which is just north of there, Sheriff Mark Lamb, who has run before. He's

00:29:42.860 running for Congress right now. He joins us here at Human Events Daily. Sheriff, how are you?

00:29:46.320 Great, Jack. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it.

00:29:50.680 Well, thank you. And I just got to get your sense.

00:29:52.920 You know, have you ever seen something like this take place in the state of Arizona?

00:29:58.380 Certainly on your watch. What's your sense of of the case as it's unfolded?

00:30:03.680 Well, look, this is a very high profile case because of who whose mom she is.

00:30:08.840 And there's a lot of cases like this happen.

00:30:11.340 and oftentimes the people don't have the name recognition and those cases go unknown to the

00:30:18.000 community. We had one similar when I first became sheriff, turned out to be a catfish thing. He

00:30:23.700 disappeared, same type of thing, blood around a car. We worked that case. It took us four days

00:30:29.480 to actually find the body. Unfortunately, by the time we found him, he was dead. And we ultimately

00:30:35.080 tracked down the guy using social media, phone pings, and we got our suspect and he is now

00:30:41.560 facing life in prison plus 30 years or something. So I've seen it firsthand and we've been involved

00:30:48.740 in some of these other cases, but this is a really high profile case. And Jack, I'll just

00:30:54.520 one more thing, not to take away from this case and what's going on for the Guthrie family,

00:31:00.780 but we also have some really big news that has dropped and it's kind of frustrating because

00:31:05.060 there's a lot of stuff dropping right now with the Epstein stuff. And yet this is kind of

00:31:10.140 dominating the news. And so I, I'm hoping that at some point we get some attention back to

00:31:15.080 some of these people in the country have done some really, really nasty things and might be

00:31:19.780 involved in that. So anyway, but I know we're talking about Guthrie today, so.

00:31:24.680 Right. And, and certainly, uh, you know, there's, there's been no, uh, shortage of violence,

00:31:29.840 no shortage of trouble coming across. I mean, you're, you're talking just a couple,

00:31:33.620 about an hour north of the border. People know I've talked about before that I used to be

00:31:39.480 ran through Fort Huachuca a couple of times down Sierra Vista area for training. And so I'm

00:31:45.080 familiar with this area. Obviously, the Turning Point headquarters being there in Phoenix. So I've

00:31:49.600 been to been to this area quite a few times. And and the spot where she's at, you know, or the

00:31:55.500 house is at, you know, people have to realize that this is this is kind of on the outskirts.

00:31:59.420 This is not the center of town. This is a more, you know, more specific area.

00:32:04.700 This isn't something where you're just sort of driving down the street and you see a house.

00:32:07.680 I mean, you can even see in some of the videos where where it's like this.

00:32:11.580 Sheriff, you know, in a situation like this, there's a lot of questions have come up.

00:32:16.140 People say, could this be there's ransom notes?

00:32:19.040 There's hoax ransom notes coming in, some that seem to be taken seriously.

00:32:24.000 But then other people are also saying, what about members of the family?

00:32:28.300 In a law enforcement situation, how do you you know, how do you parse that out when it seems like there's so much incoming all at once?

00:32:36.460 Yeah, there is a lot of incoming and plus the national attention, there's just social media, the national media, everything is popping off with this.

00:32:46.160 You know what we have to do when we take a case like this is we have to remove the feelings of it.

00:32:50.760 I mean, obviously, we feel for the family in that sense, but we also have to we can't let it cloud our judgment or cloud the evidence.

00:32:58.300 And honestly, in these cases, 90% or more, I don't know what the exact number, I know it's over 90%, end up being somebody that's familiar to the person or maybe even sometimes family.

00:33:09.680 And so what you're going to look for is you're going to look for who had the means, who had the opportunity, and also who had the motive.

00:33:15.480 And the family oftentimes falls within those three the most.

00:33:20.120 I think that you start there, you have to cast a wide net because you don't want to lose her either.

00:33:24.980 You want to be able to catch anybody that might be trying to get out of town.

00:33:28.920 So you cast a wide net, but honestly, you're going to really focus in and hone in until you can clear them.

00:33:34.640 You've got to look at the people that had the means and the opportunity.

00:33:38.080 And unfortunately, that falls to the family most often.

00:33:41.800 So, yeah, that's how we would treat that case.

00:33:44.580 Our job is to find them and find the crime and find the criminals, the suspects, the victim.

00:33:49.020 And we have to stay focused on what the evidence and where it leads, what it is and where it leads.

00:33:55.940 Well, there's no question about that.

00:33:58.060 I'm sure you must have seen these this dramatic exchange, the purported ransom notes.

00:34:04.160 They're going to TMZ and some local media.

00:34:06.400 You've seen members of the family, the children responding to the ransom notes.

00:34:13.320 When you get something like that, how do you really vet whether something like that is is real?

00:34:18.300 you know obviously have to be skeptical but what do you do in in terms of one of those situations

00:34:22.800 well what you're going to vet is whether that they have information that is not privy to anybody else

00:34:28.620 um i think there was some information in one of those notes one of them i think they arrested

00:34:33.360 somebody on and i don't know why they're sending them to tmz or the media that doesn't make sense

00:34:38.480 but they're sending them to their one of them it was enough i think that they actually

00:34:42.880 they've had a response to. Now, if you look at their responses, I know people hear the message

00:34:49.460 from the family, and it is heartfelt, and the FBI and law enforcement doesn't tell you what to say.

00:34:55.860 But when I hear those messages, if you go back and listen to them, now that I told you this,

00:35:00.440 both the son and Savannah, the way they say there's very key information in there,

00:35:05.840 and it follows a script that the FBI or we in law enforcement will give to a family missing

00:35:10.560 somebody a you want to establish contact hey please we're ready to reach out we're ready to

00:35:16.320 talk b you ask for something and then in this case you're going to ask for proof of life what we need

00:35:22.420 to see that she's alive you even go a part of it is making sure that they're not sending you some

00:35:27.500 fake photo which savannah hit on and the third thing you do is you humanize the victim this is

00:35:33.420 our mom we love her we want her back she has medical issues those are all following a very

00:35:39.140 specific way to deal with abductors and people that have been abducted.

00:35:43.860 And so while the rest of the country saw it as, Hey, this is those messages.

00:35:49.940 If you go back, they're very consistent in what they're saying.

00:35:52.780 And they're hitting these very key pieces for a script when we're dealing with an

00:35:57.620 abduction or a kidnapping.

00:36:00.500 Well, that's exactly right. And I, you know, some of the military training I had,

00:36:04.580 And, you know, talking about, you know, hostage taking, abduction situations, it hits on all the same, you know, the idea of humanization, make sure that there's, you know, there's someone there, that it's a situation like that.

00:36:16.520 I do have to ask, though, you know, you know, you being a former sheriff from the area, you know, what do you what is your sense of the communication that the public has gotten versus, you know, what seems to be a lot of information that kind of goes back and forth?

00:36:31.640 You know, one day there's one thing and then suddenly it gets contradicted the next day.

00:36:35.280 What's your sense of that?

00:36:37.080 You have to give confident and clear information.

00:36:40.420 Give as much as you can without jeopardizing the case.

00:36:43.540 I don't think that was accomplished initially.

00:36:45.880 And it's created a real quagmire on the information level.

00:36:50.420 And still to this, they're still messaging.

00:36:52.860 Well, we don't know.

00:36:53.800 We really don't have any clue who it is.

00:36:55.760 That doesn't give confidence to the family.

00:36:58.160 That doesn't give confidence to the public.

00:37:00.180 And what it does is it actually fuels more disconcerting information or confusing information.

00:37:07.400 Oftentimes, even if you don't really have a strong, strong suspect, you will tell people that you do because it makes the person who may be the abductor, they now all of a sudden start to make mistakes.

00:37:20.740 And so you're trying to either force them to make mistakes.

00:37:23.680 Maybe they move the person.

00:37:25.360 And this is the type of information we would be giving.

00:37:28.100 But really, the leadership should be delivering very confident, very clear, give as much information as you can to the to the to the community and then withhold key information that's going to help you on your investigation.

00:37:42.560 sheriff lamb this is phenomenal information one of the biggest stories really in the country

00:37:50.880 right now um we're up on a hard break i want to hold you over because this is something we're

00:37:55.980 getting comments flooding in right now with your with the response to the stuff that you're putting

00:38:01.300 out so hold it right there jack posobic sheriff mark lamb here on human events dale be right back

00:38:12.560 Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.

00:38:20.460 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:38:24.380 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen.

00:38:31.400 All right, Jack, we are back live. We've got Sheriff Mark Lamb joining us now. Of course,

00:38:37.140 he's running for Congress now, but for many years, he was the sheriff of Pinal County.

00:38:42.560 there in Arizona. Not exactly the same county where Nancy Guthrie has gone missing, but

00:38:50.060 very, very close. And in some cases, also very similar terrain. Sheriff Lamb, you were telling

00:38:55.920 us about a case that took place where you had a disappearance. Tell us a little bit about the

00:39:02.960 terrain that we're talking about in this situation, because people are saying if she was abducted,

00:39:08.980 I mean, they could be out in the desert.

00:39:11.700 Yeah, look, first of all, the desert is very dark out there. 0.98

00:39:15.060 Everything in the desert is trying to poke you, stick you, try to kill you, I mean, scratch you, whatever, bite you. 0.71

00:39:20.940 So it is not the place you want to be.

00:39:22.680 It gets very cold at night, even though Arizona may get up to 75 to 80 degrees.

00:39:28.840 It's still extremely cold out there in the desert.

00:39:31.780 And so even from a helicopter, it's hard to actually locate people in the desert because of the terrain. 0.60

00:39:39.820 So when we've been looking for smugglers or lost people in the past, we're flying over and it is very tough to see them, which is why they have called in BORTAC.

00:39:50.240 BORTAC is a specialized unit with the Border Patrol.

00:39:53.880 They are extremely proficient at looking for people, tracking people, using footprints, all sorts of stuff.

00:40:01.700 So I'm glad to see that they brought them in, because if she is indeed in the desert,

00:40:06.400 you're going to want to have people experience with that terrain who know where she might be and where to look.

00:40:12.860 Now, let's I mean, if she's been in the desert, it's going to be a miserable four nights or seven because it gets cold.

00:40:18.620 But Bortak is there and they can help us tremendously in that area.

00:40:24.320 Well, and so Bortak, I mean, this ties in with the national conversation that we've been having.

00:40:29.440 ICE, Border Patrol, control of the border. BORTAC has these capabilities, not because typically

00:40:36.160 they're looking for abductees or victims, but because they're tracking traffickers and cartels

00:40:43.300 and migrants and coyotes across the border in this area. Yeah, they're human traffickers and

00:40:49.160 they're human. Let me say that again. They are human trackers, not traffickers. They look for 0.96

00:40:56.260 the human traffic. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. I'm getting on a plane for anybody listening. 1.00

00:41:02.880 They are human trackers. They're very good at what they do. And they're going to be very helpful

00:41:07.760 if she is indeed in the desert. You want to rule that out. You don't want that to be lingering

00:41:12.340 around. You want to be able to know that you've looked at all those areas. You followed every

00:41:17.360 lead. And this also going back to the tracking footprints, tire tracks, all of those things

00:41:22.340 become very important in a case like this and guys who who are experienced in that are going

00:41:27.460 to be very helpful and they have the ability to do that as well you know you mentioned at night

00:41:35.260 infrared that's something they're going to be able to track or if and in for on those infrared cams

00:41:39.860 i know this from you know being an intelligence officer in the military that you could track if

00:41:43.960 a vehicle has come through an area recently because they'll see that they'll see that heat

00:41:48.420 signature, and that'll light up at night. Absolutely. That'll help. If there's anybody

00:41:53.600 that's been laying in the sand, it'll show the warmth of that in there. So yeah, very helpful

00:41:58.680 for tracking. That certainly is. Sheriff Lamb, tell people a little bit about your race and

00:42:07.480 what it is that made you want to go from law enforcement into running for political office

00:42:12.380 there, running for Congress. Look, I think we need this type of leadership, not just at a county

00:42:17.820 level. We're seeing it. We need it everywhere. We need people that are experiencing the issues

00:42:22.720 of this country, border patrol, getting government spending under control, finding fraud and

00:42:29.360 prosecuting people for fraud. These are the type of leadership we need in D.C. And frankly,

00:42:34.320 right now, we need people that are unapologetic about what they believe in. And my belief system

00:42:40.080 is God, family, freedom in the Constitution. Andy Biggs has been a great congressman, but he's now

00:42:45.160 running for governor in the state of Arizona. And I'm working on trying to replace his empty seat

00:42:50.100 and make sure that we get a good conservative in Washington, D.C. that's going to try to bring

00:42:55.140 some strong leadership and some some knowledge to Washington on some areas that we really need to

00:43:02.300 we really need to make sure we fix. You know, President Trump has done great with his his

00:43:07.920 executive orders and fixing the border. And now we've got to solidify those long term and make

00:43:13.660 sure that we protect American citizens because all that we're seeing in Minnesota and everywhere 0.99

00:43:18.220 else, these are a byproduct of a broken immigration system. And we're still dealing 0.97

00:43:22.260 with the after effects of the Biden administration. And that's exactly what we see going on writ large.

00:43:29.800 And by the way, you know, you mentioned how Border Patrol and the importance of what they're

00:43:34.320 doing. You got Bortak out there that's actually joining in the search for Savannah Guthrie's

00:43:40.360 mother, Nancy, and they're being demonized by the Democrats. They're being demonized by the media,

00:43:45.520 by the left. But this is what they do on a regular basis. They're the best in the world at it. And

00:43:51.700 those are the same people who are being used as a political football when really all they are

00:43:57.520 is national security and law enforcement. That's it. That's it. And what this also shows is the

00:44:04.020 importance of a working relationship with federal law enforcement and local law enforcement, not to

00:44:10.280 digress into a political, but what we see across this country in the areas where they don't want

00:44:14.760 to work with the federal partners, it's not always about immigration. Sometimes it's about

00:44:18.800 finding somebody's mom. Sometimes it's about tracking down human traffickers, child traffickers.

00:44:24.400 Sometimes it's about tracking down drug operations and cartels across this country.

00:44:30.340 To be successful, we have to have good collaboration and cooperation from our local

00:44:35.240 law enforcement, state law enforcement, county sheriffs, and our federal partners.

00:44:40.160 And I think this should be a reminder to everybody on a case like this, the importance of that.

00:44:46.760 And kudos to President Trump for his willingness to send all those resources for this case

00:44:51.740 and to be able to help wherever he can.

00:44:56.120 Well, that's exactly right, Sheriff Lamb.

00:44:57.820 I know you've got to run.

00:44:59.020 Tell people where they can go to follow all of everything that you're doing to get involved

00:45:03.560 with the campaign.

00:45:05.100 Well, Jack, thank you for having me on again.

00:45:07.600 Please go to marklam.us, marklam.us.

00:45:10.920 You can support by donating.

00:45:13.060 You can donate no matter where you live.

00:45:15.240 Even though I'm running for Congress in Arizona, the votes I make will impact you no matter what state you live in.

00:45:20.800 I've been endorsed by President Trump, House Freedom Fund, Club for Growth, TPUSA.

00:45:26.840 So, yeah, we're at Turning Point Action.

00:45:29.080 We're running a great campaign, and we want to be able to represent the people of Arizona.

00:45:34.120 And and look, my heart goes out to the Guthrie family, hope prayers for the law enforcement and the family.

00:45:40.020 But hopefully they find her and bring some resolution to this case.

00:45:44.720 Well, amen to that. There's no question. Sheriff Lamb, thank you so much for joining us.

00:45:48.840 Thanks, Jack. We'll talk to you later. Absolutely. Folks, you got it straight from the horse's mouth.

00:45:54.440 Sheriff Lamb, one of the one of the best men in law enforcement, certainly Arizona.

00:45:59.980 When this whole thing kicked off, he was one of the first people I said, we want to get him on.

00:46:05.260 I want to get Sheriff Lamb on. And I've remembered he was from the county that was immediately adjacent to Pima County.

00:46:12.260 I said, well, look, he knows the area, similar terrain, probably have had cases that, you know, crossed from county to county because, of course, criminals and traffickers and and the rest.

00:46:20.820 They aren't the ones that are going to be they're not going to worry about county lines.

00:46:24.140 They're going in and out. And that situation he talked about where, you know, it was a search and rescue where they were found out in the desert, that there was an individual that had gone lost and had been missing, catfished in that situation, later found with a vehicle, blood out there in the desert.

00:46:43.520 And it's not far from this area. This is a remote area. This is not right downtown. This is in the outskirts of Tucson. And then from there, it is not far at all as a crow flies or be able to drive out into the high desert.

00:46:59.620 and certainly something that I think myself and a lot of people are looking for.

00:47:04.800 I'll just say, you know, you have to take them seriously, but I'm skeptical.

00:47:08.500 I'm skeptical of these ransom letters.

00:47:10.720 I want to know what's going on there.

00:47:12.420 The fact that they're going to media and not dealing directly with the family,

00:47:15.640 it all seems very suspicious.

00:47:18.680 So my heart and prayers are certainly with the Guthrie family.

00:47:23.100 This weekend, folks, patriots, America, the public, law and order,

00:47:29.420 That's what we're talking about.

00:47:31.100 And I'm talking about American Patriots, not the team.

00:47:34.520 That's why we've got the Super Bowl halftime show.

00:47:37.000 That's why, look, it's going on to be a national thing.

00:47:41.040 I came up with the original, you know, the tweet for it and all the rest.

00:47:44.120 But at the end of the day, it's about honoring our country, using the inspiration from Charlie.

00:47:50.180 That's exactly where this came from.

00:47:52.740 So, ladies and gentlemen, I hope you're watching this Sunday.

00:47:55.520 Remember, change the channel to American patriotism.

00:48:00.200 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 06, 2026

The Epstein EU Link, BORTAC Joins Guthrie Search & the Historic TPUSA All American Halftime Show

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