Outrage growing as new details emerge from newly released Justice Department records on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. On Iran, the Supreme Leader today said that the U.S. Act could spark a regional war. Meanwhile, pressure building on Britain s Prince Andrew Mountbatten Windsor.
00:01:31.940If we don't make a deal, then we'll find out whether or not he was right.
00:01:35.800Outrage growing as new details emerge from the millions of newly released Justice Department records
00:01:41.460on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
00:01:44.060They include Epstein's messages with powerful men.
00:01:48.140In these messages from 2013, the convicted sex offender connecting New York Giants co-owner Steve Tisch with various women.
00:01:56.600In one exchange, Tisch asked about a woman writing pro or civilian.
00:02:01.740In a statement, Tisch acknowledging a brief association where we exchanged emails about adult women,
00:02:07.880but saying I did not take him up on any of his invitations and never went to his island.
00:02:12.940Tonight, pressure building on Andrew Mountbatten Windsor following the release of millions of pages of Justice Department records on notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, including these photos, undated and lacking context, showing the former prince crouched over a young woman.
00:02:30.960House Democrats had asked the disgraced royal to appear for questioning in November as part of their ongoing probe of Epstein's alleged accomplices, but lawmakers say he failed to respond.
00:02:41.900Now, U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer weighing in, saying,
00:02:46.540I have always said anybody who has got information should be prepared to share that information in whatever form they are asked to do that.
00:02:54.800Andrew, just one of several prominent figures across politics, finance and tech, now mentioned in the files.
00:03:11.900Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live.
00:03:21.540Real America's voice today is February 2nd, 2026.
00:07:26.580Our wave and our golden age has just begun. This is Human Events with Jack Posobo. Now it's time
00:07:32.680And for everyone to understand what America first truly means.
00:07:36.620Welcome to the second American revolution.
00:07:43.900All right, Jack, we're back here live human events daily.
00:07:48.460So, of course, we just had the huge announcement.
00:07:51.580Everyone in the country is talking about it now.
00:07:53.980The Turning Point USA all-American halftime show.
00:07:56.780Why would you want to go watch a, what were they calling it, a celebration of queer history that hates America, that says they, the guy was up at Bad Bunny, was up on the Grammys last night saying he hates ICE, that ICE is so bad.0.95
00:08:16.120See, that's strange because to me, you know, when I think of ICE, I think of someone and a group of people that are getting the pedos out of the country because they're actually deporting pedos.0.77
00:08:26.440So, you know, if you're anti-ice, doesn't that make you kind of pro-pedo?0.96
00:10:10.020And, you know, nothing but, you know, nothing but thanks and gratitude to the Turning Point team
00:10:15.840for looking at this and seeing the energy and the response,
00:10:19.420the massive response that it, you know, that it really engaged and engendered. And it's something
00:10:24.400that I think absolutely America just wants because we're sick of, and here's, what's kind of funny0.97
00:10:29.540because like, it feels like America for so long has been run by this like sick, depraved cabal0.97
00:10:37.460of sorts. And then we get the Jeffrey Epstein emails and it's kind of like, oh, we were being
00:10:42.980ruled by a sick, depraved cabal of sorts. And in fact, here they are laughing about it in their0.59
00:10:48.480emails to each other. I don't want to go into like super in the weeds, but you know, and of
00:10:55.300course we'll do that a little bit, but you know, in a general sense, does this kind of show you
00:11:01.100or show the country that like the way that we think of our government as just sort of being
00:11:06.460like, well, we, the people go vote for politicians and they go do the work. Is that really how the
00:11:11.480sausage is made obviously not and i think that for a while now the american people have realized
00:11:18.720that it's it's only a few uh stalwarts i think that are really holding on to the mr smith goes
00:11:24.120to washington model of american politics they know that the country has been run by a cesspool
00:11:30.200they just didn't know all the names they didn't know all the details they didn't know all the
00:11:34.080connections and while there's still a lot going on with the files there's so much to parse i'm still
00:11:39.480waiting you know as we turn through what's real what's speculation what was just someone saying
00:11:44.640something offhand and then what can we confirm there's so much behind all of this but what it
00:11:49.160does show is that there is an elite club that there is an elite class that they are engaged in
00:11:54.320exactly exactly the kind of behavior that you expected from them and so when we're looking at
00:12:00.680politics when we're trying to understand why we feel like our country is coming up harder that
00:12:05.820the people who are ruling us ultimately don't care about us this is just more evidence to back up the
00:12:11.380you know the the sneaking suspicion that i think more and more people had in the country that we
00:12:15.780simply cannot trust our elite ruling class and and that really is the the the bottom line on it and
00:12:24.380i think it's something where even over the past year that's why to an extent so many democrats
00:12:30.400cynically, like AOC kind of glommed onto this. And of course they did it as an anti-Trump
00:12:36.080sort of thing, but the dam just sort of broke on the narrative where they realized, okay, guys,
00:12:41.580we can't uphold this, this false reality that we're, you know, that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't
00:12:47.380connected to all of these powerful people. So we just have to go with it, but then also claim that
00:12:52.420it's tied to Trump even when, and I've been through this phase two, you know, the first
00:12:57.980thing I look for, same as phase one, was does it mention Trump? And every single time that it comes
00:13:04.040up, and then Trump just put up a Truth Social about this, where it's just, it's all about
00:13:08.060talking about, it's all about mentions of them saying, how can we get Trump involved? How can
00:13:13.860we get dirt on Trump? How can we dirty up Trump or do things to him? Because he wasn't involved
00:13:20.940in any of this. And so I think it does go to show you, but to your broader point there,
00:13:25.180that so many Democrats had to just go along with the narrative because they were sick of upholding
00:13:31.520the lie. Well, you can understand why the administration was initially careful with
00:13:37.220what was going on here. As you say, many Democrats are combing through this, just kind of searching
00:13:42.780through and whatever mention of Trump's name, they say, oh, look, there's evidence that Trump
00:13:46.680did something. And then we actually look at the document and there's no way to verify it. Or like
00:13:51.480you said it's them trying to figure out how to involve him in these kind of things it never pans
00:13:55.940out to actually pointing to trump being involved in directly one of these epstein scenarios and so
00:14:02.480you get that like you have to be careful about how you ultimately roll that out but i do think
00:14:07.700it's important the information is out now and that hesitation by the administration at some level
00:14:12.520allowed the democrats to kind of lob the ball back into their court to to try to attach this to trump
00:14:18.440in some way saying oh what is he hiding was he hiding well it turns out nothing but that doesn't
00:14:22.660matter because if they can create the appearance of some kind of uh cover-up that's what matters
00:14:28.720that's what gets people's minds turning so i think it was wise you know you just needed to get this
00:14:33.840out into the public and yes in many ways the left can try to uh uh exploit it or mislead people with
00:14:41.440it but ultimately i think the sunshine is absolutely the best disinfectant on this it's all
00:14:47.180going to vet out if Trump is not involved, then the best thing to do is simply get out what is
00:14:51.320involved there. And I think that this is ultimately going to be something that's good that the Trump
00:14:55.260administration is going to get behind them after all of this. Yeah. And look, the thing that we've
00:15:02.780always said, just to reiterate it, but, you know, every time this comes up and you'll see at the
00:15:07.260left, oh, you're doing this, oh, you're doing that. Guys, Joe Biden was in power with Merrick
00:15:13.660Garland in charge of the Department of Justice. If Trump was in the Epstein files, you wouldn't
00:15:19.600have needed Jack Smith. You wouldn't have needed a Russian dossier. You wouldn't have needed all
00:15:24.760of Russiagate. Why would they have gone to such incredible lengths making up crimes that had never
00:15:33.120been indicted before, that no one had ever been charged with before? Why would they have gone to
00:15:37.940all of those lengths if they could have just said, oh, here's a picture of Donald Trump in a
00:15:43.080jacuzzi with the girl. Oh, wait, sorry. That was actually Bill Clinton. Or, you know, here's,
00:15:47.400of course it, that would have been the very first thing they all looked for because you can even see
00:15:53.460in the interviews that have come out. And by the way, I would even say, I was talking to a buddy
00:15:57.220of mine who, uh, prior intelligence service guy that I was, I was in the IC with. And we talked
00:16:04.700about how, even when you look by the way, at the FBI officers or the FBI agents that are holding
00:16:10.240these interviews and when they're talking to people, even they keep asking about Trump.
00:16:15.600They don't actually go down the line of asking about anyone on the left. They're the ones who
00:16:21.580are asking about Trump. And this is in the, you know, 20 teens, 2020s. So again, you just see
00:16:26.420this pervasive bias over and over from both Epstein and his friends and even the FBI at times
00:16:33.200of trying to get Trump. It just ain't there. Yeah, that's such an important point, Jack.
00:16:38.940And that's why I was always relatively sure that there wasn't going to be anything with Trump involved, because as you said, the Democrats pushed basically every radical attempt to try to keep Trump from returning to the presidency that they could find.
00:16:52.560They threw his supporters in jail. They threw his staff in jail. They manufactured charges. They created conspiracy theories. They strained the credibility of the FBI, the intelligence agencies.
00:17:05.200they just did everything up to and including shooting the guy to try to stop him so it's
00:17:11.700really hard for me to believe that they just have this slam dunk case of him as being some kind of
00:17:16.900pedophile and they just couldn't get around to bringing it out now some people said oh well it's
00:17:21.060gonna it's gonna indict some of the democrats they're worried about it indicting some of the
00:17:24.640democrats guys they were willing to destroy anyone and everyone to beat trump you don't think that
00:17:30.020they were willing to ruin the reputation of bill clinton whose reputation is already ruined
00:17:35.100to get donald trump i mean come on that's ridiculous ultimately if the case had been
00:17:40.800there they would have made it it obviously wasn't and that's why ultimately it was always going to
00:17:46.500be the case that the best thing to do was to get the epstein files out there and prove that trump
00:17:52.340is ultimately exonerated and that there are other very nefarious actors inside our government that
00:17:58.460we need to be aware of the relationships the attitudes towards the average american especially
00:18:03.780Christians was absolutely gross. We see that reiterated throughout different documents in
00:18:09.480these leaks. And so the picture that falls into place is definitely one that I think
00:18:13.500really exposes the entire American elite system, but especially those on the left.
00:18:21.520And it certainly does. And when you look at Epstein's politics, you know, or political,
00:18:26.760you know, leanings that come across in these things, it really just kind of feels like
00:18:31.800this is sort of like your average msnbc viewer kind of guy where he doesn't actually have any
00:18:38.680level of sophistication that's further than that other than his own access to the elites but his
00:18:45.020politics are pretty much just in line with anybody who would watch like rachel maddow or any of the
00:18:51.160chris hayes joy reed any of these other msnbc shows and there's certainly you know there there's
00:18:57.460other things that he gets into but that's by and large all that jack sobek one with
00:19:02.020Oren McIntyre here, Human Events Daily. We'll be right back.
00:19:26.180Talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
00:20:31.220And, Arne, you and I were just talking about how this really does kind of show that, like, the, you know, they call it 4chan weaponized autism.
00:20:40.6204chan was 100 percent right about how the world works.
00:20:44.860They also, by the way, were correct in actually people forget this.
00:20:49.540But 4chan was the one was the place, the website that broke the news anonymously that Jeffrey Epstein had died.
00:20:55.800That was actually the place where it came out.
00:20:57.440Um, apparently the guard, one of the prison guards is now being named that unfortunately
00:21:02.980some of his, uh, there was investigation into him as to where the leak came from.
00:21:06.940And that came out in these files as well.
00:21:08.840And so I, hopefully, uh, hopefully he doesn't catch any backlash for that, but, uh, there's
00:21:14.360something that I, that I also wanted to get into and it's, it's the way it's, it's this
00:21:18.500level of disdain that Jeffrey Epstein seems to have for regular people.
00:21:22.680And he just seems like he felt like he was completely untouchable.
00:21:28.700When I hear Mike Benz going through his chapter and verse on how the money laundering was done for the CIA, was done for intelligence agencies around the world, Israeli intelligence, British intelligence, getting into Robert Maxwell.
00:21:42.060We'll talk about that in a little bit with Rich Barris.
00:21:44.360it, it gives a lot of credence to that because it just seems like he has this ability to be,
00:21:50.140um, you know, to feel like he's, to feel like he's untouchable. And then, and then he's just
00:21:55.220referring to, to people as like the goys and the goyum, like they're like, there's some kind of0.98
00:22:01.220like under, you know, an under creature. And, and it's amazing because I'm like, oh, so are,0.99
00:22:07.620are we, are we going to like call that out as hate speech? Because when I say Christ is King,
00:22:12.200or where I'm holding a rosary on a stage in front of, like, young people at a memorial, by the way,
00:22:18.320at my friend's memorial, I get told that's hate speech.
00:22:21.320So what's up with the double standard there?
00:22:24.020Yeah, it's sadly not shocking at all because the double standard is constant in our society.
00:22:30.400We're the one group that you're always allowed to make fun of as Christians, especially white Christian men.
00:22:36.220and so Jeffrey Epstein throwing around this type of language is swept under the rug or presented
00:22:41.940is not a big deal when it's obviously really vicious the way that he's referring to people
00:22:46.940as you say he's constantly using as an exclusionary term oh I guess we can you know bring some of
00:22:51.680those around tonight I guess we can allow them into the party or into the club and it's just a
00:22:56.680wider understanding of you know just how nefarious our elites were and how untouchable as you point
00:23:02.600out they feel like they are a lot of people speculated you know who did who did Jeffrey
00:23:07.300Epstein work for did he work for the CIA did he work for the Mossad he worked for some other
00:23:11.840intelligence agency and the answer is probably yes you know this idea that intelligence networks are
00:23:18.760just have every single person on the books drawing a salary doing 100 of their job for one that's
00:23:26.060not how this work you know intelligence assets are out there all the time they're usually being
00:23:30.980recruited by these different agencies because they're going to have some level of utility.
00:23:35.140They often are working in multiple worlds, often in contact with multiple agencies.
00:23:40.000And so while it's probably unlikely that Jeffrey Epstein was officially drawing a paycheck from
00:23:46.040the CIA or the Mossad or any of these other intelligence networks directly, it's very
00:23:51.340clear that he felt his connections with that world made him more or less untouchable.
00:23:56.460He's servicing some of the highest clientele.
00:23:59.300He's out there holding secrets, working with some of the richest men in the world, providing them possibly drugs for diseases that they had contracted and possibly passed to their wives.
00:24:10.240These are things that puts Epstein, puts people who are incredibly powerful or wealthy in the debt of someone like Epstein.
00:24:17.480And so does he need to have like direct connections to every intelligence agency?
00:24:22.000Does he need to be able to summon the power of Israel or America?
00:24:25.980No, he just talks about, you know, the average person as if they're worthless, if they can't touch him, because he feels like he can't be touched.
00:24:33.300He has all these international connections that he can wield, all this blackmail, all this influence.0.98
00:24:39.620Why would he think that he's going to be held accountable by the average goyim, as he would call it?0.98
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00:29:54.060back we're talking to epstein today the dam is absolutely broken on so many of these files so
00:29:59.340much that's gone in phase two let me just say phase two again you know a rare instance where
00:30:06.400the sequel is better than the original i'll take epstein phase two all day long was folks remember
00:30:12.560uh epstein phase one didn't quite go over as well as planned want to bring rich barris in here the
00:30:19.140people's pundit to help us break it all down what's up rich living the dream jack thanks for
00:30:24.500having me on as always brother of course and man i'm sure you're right there with me you and i
00:30:30.160talked about this so much if if if this drop had been the phase one drop i mean i just think we'd
00:30:36.180be in a very different place right now wouldn't we oh we definitely would have and again part of
00:30:42.660the administration's problem was simply how they handled this jack i mean it was very simple for
00:30:48.400because we've been hearing people try to defend it and they basically say things like, well,
00:30:54.300you know, there was no other way to do it. This was the way it had to be done after all. That's
00:30:58.080not true. They could have easily have just come out instead of, you know, the promise of part one
00:31:02.800with the binders and then Pam Bondi doing the charade she pulled on Fox News. They could have
00:31:07.460easily have just come out and said, look, we will get to the bottom of this. But remember,
00:31:11.500it's the same FBI who launched a coup against me in my first administration. It's the same FBI
00:31:17.860who behaved grossly with Hillary Clinton, we're going to need some time to go through it. And
00:31:23.160people would have given them the time of day for that. They would have get, especially with he
00:31:28.520still had the political capital that he did, they would have given him a lot of grace. But now here
00:31:33.960we are. So it's hard to see how any of this ends up being a victory for the administration, except
00:31:40.960what I think you and I always knew, which is that there was never going to be anything about Donald
00:31:46.060trump specifically damning or incriminating the president is one of the very few people who came
00:31:51.980out of this entire epstein debacle with his hands clean out of all that everyone in that social class
00:31:58.360and that political class donald trump is the only one who ever stood up to jeffrey epstein and it's
00:32:04.320a shame because of how they went through this process he will not get the credit for that
00:32:07.680but there are a lot of there are a lot of big nuggets in this drop jack including one of my
00:32:13.040personal favor and that's something i want to dig into oh yeah but yeah please please do roll into
00:32:18.480it because you know there's so much in here and it's like drinking from a fire hose you know
00:32:23.420we're we're you know there's there's an email here there's bill gates there's there's stuff
00:32:27.240with russia there's stuff with uh reed hoffman of course elon musk he's trying to get him to come
00:32:32.000down and elon's like i'm doing rockets i got i got way more important things to do to come some0.93
00:32:36.240stupid island you know and over and over it's like you're right because it is actually exculpatory0.95
00:32:42.580to people like Donald Trump, people like Elon Musk, by the way. And it is very unfortunately,1.00
00:32:48.880I think, getting overlooked that there's a lot of people here that are within these power
00:32:52.600structures that are completely getting overlooked. So I want to go to you. What was the biggest
00:32:57.320takeaway that you have so far? The biggest takeaway for me, and again, maybe showing my age
00:33:04.280and remembering old events that were huge events, the biggest eye-opener to me, Jack, was that
00:33:11.200Jeffrey Epstein very clearly believed that Robert Maxwell was killed by Mossad, that he worked for Mossad.
00:33:18.200He details the arrangement that they had, and then he details the moment when Mossad decided that Robert Maxwell was no longer worth the heavy price that they had to pay to keep him as an asset.
00:33:30.220And that in Jeffrey Epstein's mind, again, remember his role with Robert Maxwell is his relationship with obviously Ghislaine, his daughter.
00:33:41.340This was a huge story at the time that he was killed or the time that he was died mysteriously fell off the back of his boat.
00:33:47.300Right. I mean, this is this is what the story was back then.
00:33:50.560Nobody really believed it. And he was a huge name.
00:33:53.360He was a titan of the industry. It was a huge event in his daughter's life.
00:33:57.360uh and of course now we know a huge one in the life of jeffrey epstein and for people who have
00:34:02.680not read this email he basically said um and i forgot the the verb the the the wording he used
00:34:10.260but basically that he was suicide right um meaning he wasn't he was killed and he wanted them to pay
00:34:18.580that he had a lot of problems with his business relationships and his business empire it was
00:34:24.120falling apart. It had a lot of financial struggle, a lot of issues he was going through, and he
00:34:29.780wanted them to bankroll it in order to continue to deliver what he was delivering for them.
00:34:34.760And Mossad decided it wasn't worth it, and they got rid of him. And that's what it says in the
00:34:39.200email, Jack. That's what we call a smoking gun. That is crystal clear. And what are we just
00:34:45.760supposed to believe? Jeffrey was wrong? Come on. Give me a break. He didn't know? Come on.
00:34:50.940that's just it's inconceivable to me he knew what robert was up to and that's what he believed
00:34:56.440happened to him and it's it's it's just so crazy because and then when you go back to robert
00:35:03.420maxwell this mike benz of course has talked about this he's come on the show talked about it for
00:35:07.240years how this was a guy who was a fixer right he was a fixer for british intelligence he worked
00:35:13.660with israeli intelligence he was going into eastern europe and doing all sorts of stuff
00:35:18.800in sort of like the during the Cold War and then the end of the Cold War, post-Cold War.
00:35:23.460These were the type of operations that he was working on. And I love the fact, by the way,
00:35:28.240and I'd have to pull up the actual town name. But if you go and look up, right, this is my
00:35:33.280favorite nugget on this. Where was Robert Maxwell born? Well, at the time, it was not this. But if
00:35:40.920you go and look at the current borders, the town where he was born is currently within the borders
00:35:46.300of Ukraine. He was born in what is now Ukraine. At the time, it was in, you know, it was actually
00:35:53.560part of the original Czechoslovakia that after the fall of the Soviet Union got reapportioned
00:35:59.380to Ukraine. It's just, it's like, why does everything keep turning back to Ukraine? It's
00:36:04.560just another one of those nuggets that keeps, it's like the black box of the deep state,
00:36:09.060the black box of the intel community, that everything nefarious just seems to run through there.
00:36:13.860Yeah, so it wouldn't be a shocker. Also, you know, connecting all of that together a little bit. Very interesting. And he says flat out that because of the information that he had gathered, because of which you can only assume is compromising material on people, he had access, revolving door access to Downing Street when Margaret Thatcher was the prime minister of Britain,
00:36:41.960when Ronald Reagan was the president of the United States.
00:36:45.200And he talks about those halls of power, you know, those people that gave him access to the halls of power in Europe
00:36:52.100and the work that he was doing, what is now the former Soviet bloc.
00:36:55.520So, you know, I think, Jack, what this does is the people who are naysayers
00:37:01.700or were the people who would downplay Robert Maxwell's relationship to Jeffrey
00:37:07.960and what that meant, you know, with the issues surrounding his death and, you know, the speculation,
00:37:14.320obviously, that we all heard. I think there's a problem for that side who tried to downplay this
00:37:18.940now, which is that he's confirming that these relationships did in fact exist. He's confirming
00:37:26.740that, you know, it's like the worst thing to the American voter, that the rich, the powerful,
00:37:32.160the elite behave badly. They end up in bad positions because other bad people, you know,
00:37:39.380find them compromised in those positions. And then it opens the door to bad actions from those
00:37:45.100people. You know, that whole. And that's and that's where so much the money is changing hands.
00:37:49.820The power is changing hands. The influence is changing hands. We're on with Rich Barris,
00:37:53.760the People's Pundit, right back. Human Events Daily.
00:39:00.640We're phase two. Here it is. Here is phase two. Do I wish it was out sooner? Of course, I wish it was out sooner. But it's out now. And we're going through. We talked about how it should have been out sooner. We've given I've given speeches at Turning Point how it should have been out sooner.
00:39:17.700And one of the big pieces, too, that I want to get into is this is there are examples here where Jeffrey Epstein is not just having these conversations with people who are like his staff and his close circle.
00:39:32.400This seems like a pretty well-known operation when he's emailing with the likes of Bill Gates and others that he's Reid Hoffman.
00:39:42.100they seem to all know exactly what he's doing what he's talking about especially this whole exchange
00:39:47.360over the std so i'm so sorry accidents do happen we'll we'll try to get you the antibiotics all
00:39:53.680of this i'm like i'm like whoa dude this is just all over open emails and by the way if that's what
00:40:00.560he put on email imagine what he only said on the phone or in person yeah yeah jack i mean this was
00:40:07.800again, this is the funny thing where we're all being told by the media, you know, all of a sudden
00:40:12.180recent, quite recently, right? Throughout the last year, the first year of Trump's administration,
00:40:17.600that some of the things that were open secrets are suddenly now conspiracy theories. And if you
00:40:23.760go through these emails, you can see that it's obvious that some of the, even the things we
00:40:28.780were just discussing in the last segment, he's talking about as if they are, everybody knows it
00:40:34.040as if everyone is like read in, except for the American public. And it's just astonishing. Again,
00:40:42.660I mean, we have a media, Jack. We have corporate media. We have independent media. We have all
00:40:47.420of these people who are supposed to be doing work like this. It doesn't get done. It takes
00:40:52.400a bipartisan act of Congress to circumvent normal order in order to get this bill passed so we can
00:40:59.020get our hands on these documents to begin with. I mean, that's important to know. And depending
00:41:03.580It doesn't really matter what you have after your last name.
00:41:07.000Both parties did really not want this out.
00:41:11.120Both parties that joined together and used the petition process.
00:41:15.800But I do want to say, well, here's what I'll say about this, though, is the people from both parties who put this out, they thought that this was going to be a Donald Trump, you know, dossier.
00:41:29.640They thought this was going to be a new dirty dossier on Trump, that it would get Trump.
00:41:35.640And it just it just didn't materialize at all because AOC was hyping this stuff.
00:41:39.920She was the only Democrat that I could find who was hyping this stuff up the other day.
00:41:44.180And then it comes out and it's like, yeah, these are mostly people associated with your party, AOC.
00:41:50.260And for the anti-Trump people on the on the Republican side, it's like, guys, it just ain't there.
00:41:54.780yeah the well the anti-trump right because they're they're you know we know this the entire
00:42:03.740party is certainly not maga it's not america first and you know there's a perfectly what we
00:42:08.980call perfectly normal corruption in washington dc which both parties you know engage in it's just
00:42:14.440a fact um and and trump was coming out of this clean and this is what was always so stunning to
00:42:20.420me it seemed like the only thing that was a secret about the epstein files was that there
00:42:24.740was, you know, on the right, there was a group of people who knew that Donald Trump was not going to
00:42:30.800be implicated in any of this. And it could have been used to their benefit. But, you know, it is
00:42:36.660what it is now. You know, they're out and people can go through them and make their own call. But
00:42:40.640there's no doubt that this is—Epstein has always been a left-wing, predominantly left-wing
00:42:46.280problem. The only time I think the right muddied themselves up was under the Bush administration.
00:42:50.920And obviously he served as labor secretary in Trump's first administration, Costa, where, you know, he did get that sweetheart deal.
00:43:00.800And Democrats always had a talking point, you know, where they would say we didn't he didn't get that from us.
00:43:05.800He didn't get that. But he did get it because of the relationship with your people that he had.
00:43:10.680But again, I think the biggest part about this and the big story here, Jack, is that it does confirm that there is this network of influence and there are really bad people in these circles, and that sometimes manifests into public policy.
00:43:27.440a lot of times, it manifests into public policy, not because those decisions are the right ones.
00:43:33.220They're the best thing for the public of that, you know, not just our own nation,
00:43:36.860but others that he's wrapped up in, but because of these relationships. And the people instinctively
00:43:42.480know that. And that's what this issue has always been about from the beginning,
00:43:46.360that this was a proxy for that world and what goes on in that world. And how not only do they
00:43:51.300get what they want, Jack, they get what they want at the expense of the little guy, right?
00:44:39.760They're using ethnic slurs about you over and over.
00:44:42.880And it's like for the people who were, you know, if you go back to 2016, 2017, people like and I'll say Alex Jones and others were derided as crazy conspiracy theorists for saying that this was how the world worked.
00:44:57.520Now we see the emails and it's it is like looking at the dashboard of world power.